3rd Jan, 2022

Happy 2022 – New Discussion thread

wishing you all have a healthy and happy 2022!!

Responses

Eliseo: Thank you for saying “We are two nations, but one society.”

Hi Nancy, hope you have a wonderful 2022. I am so appreciative for you continuing to host this sanctuary.

Nancy,
I must affirm Kiwi’s message to you. I am deeply grateful for this refuge, this sanctuary. Thankyou. May 2022 be a year full of blessings for you and your family. So may it be for us all.

Sunstars,
You are quite welcome. We are all North Americans. US citizens who’ve had sufficient business of any kind in Canada, and Canadians who’ve worked in or lived in the US know we are two nations, but one society.
Those of us trained in sociology know it as well.

Our enemies know and understand it. Whether we speak English or French, their spies study us as one North American culture.

When I was a senior in High School in Texas, I seriously considered moving to Canada and becoming a citizen. I sometimes think it was a mistake not to have done so. As a minimum, I hoped at that time to tour Canada, New Zealand, and Iceland.

I eventually had really good adventures in Ontario, Manitoba, and British Columbia, Treated with kindness and respect, it always seemed Canadians were more open to my ideas than folks in the US!

Happy belated 2022! Thanks for the Globe link, Sharon K. A very thought provoking and worrisome article. But, there’s the weather to think of in Canada: 6 months of the year it’s ok, with mosquitoes, 2 months not bad in late spring and early fall, and 4 months, positively Siberian, except on the west coast where it’s soaking wet, like Washington state.

I just don’t imagine a whole lot of Americans rushing to absorb or otherwise invade Canada. I mean, what’s to gain (no offense to Canadians, they are lovely people). Americans haven’t even managed to fully populate Alaska, which has the same weather and scenery as a lot of Canada. Lots of rocks and water. And 50 % of Americans has much the same attitudes as right wing Canadians, but is that sufficient for “identification” between the 2 cultures when health care is like Mount Everest in between? Plus environmental issues and oil and gas and – gasp, Sarah Palin! If Alaska can’t get more going than that, compared to Canadians, what’s the chance that Americans would charge into Canada nicely, or otherwise. Would they do any better than Sarah – I mean she was Governor for only a matter of months!

It took 400 years of hard work and countless indigenous and immigrant lives and virtually defeated the British establishment financially, and nearly all of Canada’s population lives within 40 miles of the international border! That’s as far as people have penetrated thus far.

Come on. It wouldn’t be like Mexico – Mexicans WANT to come north. Life could be better for them. But, why on God’s little green planet would masses of Americans want to invade or even influence Canada? It’s still a frontier. Only hardy folks can manage to live on frontiers for any length of time (unless they live in high rises in Canada’s few and veeery far between cities).

If man and mother nature don’t burn up all the trees in forest fires, or shake the coast silly in an earthquake, or flood out cities anywhere near a big river (Calgary), Canada will be lucky to make the most of its prairie wheat fields and mine its minerals for generations to come. It has a miniscule population and other than food production and mining, that’s about it except for beleaguered auto companies in Ontario!

Yes, Canada is headed for trouble, but I doubt it will be because Americans suddenly start paying attention to anything but mining more of its resources and piping its gas (and water) toward the south. It’s an OLD story and there ain’t gonna be a new one for a long time yet. Which most Canadians are just fine with.

Just my rant since people are just getting too, too paranoid.

Speaking of Canada, has anyone seen this? It is a little concerning…

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/02/neurological-illness-affecting-young-adults-canada?fbclid=IwAR2GMygv8ZJDu4X0m8qln1P4iiiPOJ8QEbCsB05g6o2ii_LaVnmIpdJfWAQ

I know many of us here feel helpless as we watch what is unfolding and don’t know what to do…one thing we can do is see where we spend our money and let these companies know of our buying patterns.

We cannot forget that corporations (not all – but many) have played and continue to play an active role in attempting to overthrow our democracy. Fascism can be far more profitable than a fully functioning democracy. Please take a look at this report.

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-reports/the-corporate-insurrection-how-companies-have-broken-promises-and-funded-seditionists/

Beowulfie,
Dr. Thomas Homer-Dixon is not suggesting hordes of Americans will seek asylum in Canada, but only some from our political class. Nor is he paranoid. He’s merely recommending the Canadian government game out the possible scenarios, potentialities which are not beyond the realm of possibility.

Ever been a Boy Scout? Or known one? Their motto as far as I know remains as “Be Prepared.” It would be irresponsible for the Canadian government to NOT consider such possibilities, to remain unprepared.

As far as Canadian weather goes: The weather in the populated areas is no different from the US states immediately south of them. The weather in Blaine, WA (usually pretty pleasant) is no different from White Rock, British Columbia, Pembina, North Dakota from Emerson, Manitoba, Detroit from Windsor, Ontario, Niagara Falls, NY from Niagara Falls, Ontario. Ever been to North Dakota in the middle of winter? I lived in Minnesota for a year. That was enough. Since then I’ve often referred to the area as the Siberian part of the United States.

As for political motivation: In the 19th century somewhere between 30,000 and 40,000 people of color crossed over and settled in Canada through the Underground Railroad. During the Vietnam war, as many as 125,000 US citizens moved to Canada to avoid the draft. I don’t see it as implausible at all that many in larger numbers from south of the border might under the right circumstances move across the Canadian border.

AND, climate scientists have often
stated folks in the lower 48 might eventually move northward as becomes necessary. As I see it, Canada is one of the few countries likely to benefit more than it suffers or loses from global warming. The Canadian provinces IMHO have a great future if they can obtain a large enough population to develop as need be.

Nevertheless, the main conundrums Dr. Thomas Homer-Dixon presented are salient. What IF a right wing American government demanded Canada repatriate prominent Dems whom they regard as criminals just because they are “Liberal”? Should Canada comply?

Canadians are NOT stupid! The US is great as a friend, but Canadians know us intimately. They know how dangerous we can be, better than just about everyone excepting the surviving citizens of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Admittedly, despite his intentions, it appears DJT will not run for president in 2024. IMO, his legal troubles will likely bring him down.

But if things go badly, a Josh Hawley, or some other, smoother Trumpist R might run, and like the Donald and “W,” lose the popular vote, but win the electoral college. That might occur legitimately, or through dirty tricks at the national and/or state level.

It’s happened before a few times beginning in 1876. The nefarious behind the scenes machinations of 1876 gave us president Hayes, not Samuel Tilden, but also Jim Crow apartheid for 100 years. AND THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT THE R’s ARE HOPING TO DO IN 2024! I’m not saying they will succeed, but that they might if we don’t prepare and prevent them.

IMO, the Canadian government would be wise to follow Dr. Homer-Dixon’s prescriptions. They would be foolish to do otherwise. That’s not paranoia. That’s just plain old common sense.

Rick Levine’s Astrology Forecast for January 2022: BRING ON THE NEW!

Video: 1 hour 6 min

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uwVE5ZRi4I

Jerry, re. your quote: “On February 19, 2022, the USA will have its first-ever Pluto return, a groundbreaking moment that changes the world as we know it” – point taken – since it’s Pluto, I just hope the ground breaking isn’t the ‘big one’!

Eliseo, I have no disagreement with you on those specific points, and I don’t believe I said Canadians are stupid. Not at all! But they are a small minority on a big continent – and geography is geography.

Sure, Americans could just drive across the line and take over, or apply huge pressure, military and otherwise. But that costs money and manpower. Why bother? Americans have plenty enough influence already – they run things from a comfy distance via business and government, with Canada’s full cooperation. Why do anything more?

It’s the enormous ’empty’ space of Canada, very few people and only a 40 mile wide strip of ‘development’ that keeps Canada ‘separate’ from the US politically. The geography is the formidable barrier. The cultural difference on health care is being eroded already with the introduction of private care in Canada and endless pressure (as in the US) for ever lower levels of taxation for corporations.

Americans who don’t want social services or health care (Repubs in large part) so far have kept the US and Canada separate, along with Quebec. Repubs don’t want Canadian style health care to creep into the US and could you picture what Americans would do about Quebec if they were to run the whole country openly? Much simpler just to take the resources and play ball in a bigger court south of the line.

I don’t disagree with the threat that is outlined in the Globe article. I only happen to believe things will stay largely the same for a long time to come because the powers that be want it that way. It doesn’t matter whether they are Dems or Repubs because it’s the money that talks. Otherwise, they would have made the US into a fair and open society with a logical voting system countrywide a long time ago. There are reasons for the way things are in the US – citizens can complain all they like, but businesses don’t WANT it to be fair and open. And Canada isn’t in a position to change a thing as to resources or trade with the US. Sure, a little global diversification is smart, but when the US coughs, Canada reaches for a hanky.

Assuming Covid doesn’t upend the whole world even worse than it already has, things will continue, whoever is in power. Same old s**t, different flies.

Canada can hold committees all it likes, and get ready all it wants. No harm done, it’s good preparation, but in the end it won’t change a thing. The US will call the shots from the board rooms of New York and the likes of Trudeau and O’Toole in Ottawa will say ‘yes sir’.

Beowulfie,

Whether it is the Big one or not, who knows. Lots of intriguing twists and turns to the drama. It will be interesting to watch it unfold. I mistakenly posted that entry in the previous thread. Here it is in this new thread…..

Very exciting times lie ahead……….

The United States’ Pluto Return

On Feb. 22, the United States will undergo a once-in-our-lifetime and first-of-its-kind event known as a Pluto return. This means that for the first time ever, Pluto will return to the exact position in the zodiac that it was during the United States’ inception on Jul. 4, 1776. It takes about 245 years for Pluto to complete a full rotation through the zodiac, so the Pluto return is an alignment that no human has ever experienced in their own natal chart.

Named after the god of the underworld, Pluto is the planet of transformation and extremes. During the U.S.’s Pluto return, the country will have to reckon with these intense themes. The dark and power-hungry underbelly of authority and societal structures will likely be forced into the light, and it’s possible that something entirely new will be reborn. There’s no way to know exactly what that’ll look like, but as the social movements of recent years have shown, something has to change. – Nina Kahn

VENUS RETROGRADE CONJUNCT PLUTO Relationships & Value Systems Transform.

Video: 24 min 35 sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh37LaFog8A

USA & The Pluto Return – Rewind, Reset, Transform by Sorana Cancel

On February 19, 2022, the USA will have its first-ever Pluto return, a groundbreaking moment that changes the world as we know it. Since Pluto is a slow-moving planet, its effects extend over the years before and after the return, so 2020 has already set the wheels in motion for some major transformations. Let’s find out more about the following years…

Pluto Returns: Key Moments In History

Dwarf planet Pluto follows the principle of strong essences kept in small bottles: he rules death, rebirth, power, secrets, and taboos. Just like us, each country has a birth chart and just like ours, every country’s chart has a Pluto that represents an ideology, social hierarchy, the way power is wielded, as well as a nation’s traumas, from war and destruction to social injustice and oppression.

When Pluto returns to its original position in the country’s birth chart- something that happens once every 247 years-, these issues come to the surface through groundbreaking circumstances that are meant to shake the system and leave behind any impurities, bringing radical change in the political, economic and social system. We can see some examples in nations that have been around long enough to catch a Pluto return: in 1972, when Pluto was conjunct Spain’s natal Pluto, dictator Francisco Franco relinquished power, while Pluto returns in France and Russia marked the deaths of Napoleon and Stalin.

Pluto returns are often turbulent because they bring transformation through eliminating the toxic material- ideologies, political practices, traumas- that has accumulated during a 247-year cycle.

Even though it’s not easy, flowing with the change is the best choice when it comes to Pluto. Used well, the upheavals he brings can help a country shed its old skin and find new resources as it’s being reborn.

Continued…..

https://mylittlemagicshop.com/blogs/blog/usa-and-the-pluto-return-rewind-reset-transform

And this one as well…….

Several days prior to the exact US Pluto return we have a rather interesting symmetrical Leo Full Moon configuration forming a fixed Grand Cross Square to the nodes affecting both President Biden (Sun/Venus 27/28 Scorpio – Chiron 28 Leo) and former President Trump (Mars/ asc, 26-29 Leo). The Full Moon is in quincunx to tr. Pluto and the US natal Pluto. Will Donald J Trump finally face the long awaited indictment at this time? Here’s the 28 Leo Full Moon Feb 16th chart…….

https://cafeastrology.com/events/full-moon-on-february-16-2022/

The photo that goes with the article that you just posted, Eliseo, reminds me of Trump’s quote that he loves “the poorly educated”.

The mid-term elections will be instructional about an authoritarian take over of our nation. I am taking with my husband about moving to another country. I have fought all my life for civil rights and social change like many of you. I was born in 1954 and I have an exact conjunction of Jupiter-Uranus at 27 Cancer in my 9th H directly opposite the USA Sibley Pluto so moving away may just be in the stars for me. I’m tired of fighting and I do not want to live with the angry and armed, science denying, racist, sexist homophobic, authoritarian ilk that defines the MAGA movement. Whether you make plans to flee, resist, arm yourselves and fight; I encourage you to start making plans on what you will do when and if they take over.

Thank you Frank for fighting all your life for civil right and social change……

I am already in a different country… but not SO different….. So I have to stay and fight…… The thought is fraught…. and the feeling ….. I have to get some optimism.

We are going to push through this. Just remember, the science-denying, Big Lie believing jackasses are just as sick and tired as we are. The screws of the justice department are slowly but surely squeezing the Trump family and friends. We are all weary, but we are going to beat this.

That’s my hit.

The investigation of Trump and Jan. 6 seems to be accelerating. How much does anyone want to bet that this becomes the Pluto Return catalyst event that provokes the transformation of America, for better or for worse?

I think it’s obvious. The dumbass bastard grifter and his associates, including Bannon, Stone, Giuliani, etc. are thoroughly corrupt and destructive, yet he somehow manages to retain a substantial and loyal following among the public that sticks with him, some of them if for no other reason than to spite the Dems and liberals they have come to see as their mortal foes. If he is convicted and punished, this same group may come to see him as some sort of martyr, and elevate him to sainthood in their eyes, viewing his fate as a personal assault on THEM.

It’s quite disgusting, actually, as much as it is disturbing. Such an unseemly divide could be catastrophically deepened by efforts to hold accountable such a morally depraved and unworthy avatar. Trump as a sort of anti-Jesus, crucified.

Who would have ever foreseen such a hideous manifestation and the potential for it to result in irreparable harm to the nation?

BuckeyeShadow,
That makes perfect sense. Pluto will be at
27°32’ Capricorn, the exact degree February 20th, but DJT will likely set it up January 6th.

I’m given to understand he plans to deliver a public speech that day, probably casting the event in 2021 as a day of heroic action. Surely Fox News will broadcast it live, but I’m wondering how the others will deal with it. Considering how nutsz he is, we should not be surprised if he ignores his growing legal troubles and overtly calls for more insurrection.

But international events might also occur near simultaneously which directly challenge the US. Meanwhile we’ll have to get through July 11th and December 28th as well.

Thank you Will.

So WHY do they stick with him? Most obviously it’s inequality…. lack of education, lack of substance, and the erosion of the middle class.

But…. inequality …. inability to see that ALL Americans have been raised in America…. and have had the same environment (generally) and have suffered the same McDonald’s commercials… etc etc. No matter what the color of their skin, whatever their accents……. we have all been raised in the environments of the same events …That’s what makes all Americans American, whatever their disparate backgrounds… really it’s just the same background from different views.

Beowulfie,

If the present Covid 19 cases continue on its current trajectory, I can well imagine the economy arriving at a dangerous precipice in a months time. The hospitals will be overwhelmed and the ordinary day to day affairs could grind to a halt……

U.S. Sets Global Daily Record of Over 1 Million Virus Cases

Bloomberg
Jan 4, 2022

*Cases nearly doubled versus four days ago as omicron surges

*Officials hopeful that deaths won’t rise as much as infections infections

Continued…….

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-04/u-s-sets-new-global-daily-record-of-over-1-million-virus-cases

The Economy, Covid & The Stock Market by Denise Seigel

Video: 24 min 35 sec

https://youtube.com/watch?v=RaRp9fc7Rd0&feature=share

Trump cancels Jan. 6 event amid GOP complaints

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/04/gop-trump-jan-6-speech-526487

In addition to talking about the 2020 election, Trump was also expected to decry the House select committee’s investigation into Jan. 6. In his statement announcing he was canceling the rally, Trump blamed the committee for his decision and said he would discuss “many of those important topics” at a rally in Arizona on Jan. 15.

“In light of the total bias and dishonesty of the January 6th Unselect Committee of Democrats, two failed Republicans, and the Fake News Media, I am canceling the January 6th Press Conference at Mar-a-Lago on Thursday,” Trump said, reiterating his false charges of widespread election fraud.

Yes, it’s usually the White Americans of course……

Remember the guy sailing the Confederate flag though the inside of the building during the insurrection…….

It took me quite a few times viewing it to have greater understanding of the symbolism of it. After all, I am a Canadian. But I sure read Gone with the Wind a few times. Two of the subsequent times I did not read the last few pages where Rhett left Scarlet.

My Aunt Margaret gave me the book to read. It was dated as a birthday gift to her in 1937. It had 1037 pages.

Margaret Mitchell did a service to the history of the country – from her point of view.

The rest, the rest of the history we are just finding out. I mean…. from my point of view I am, we are discovering what the other side of the story was and is.

In an effort in my teens to find out what I did not know about this “fraught” subject, I read Uncle Tom’s Cabin, Black Like Me, and so many more well known subjects on the matter.

There is so much available now that I did not read…. Books that would enlighten me greatly but distress me mightily.

Yay! to the cancellation of Trump’s Jan. 6 talk….makes the atmosphere cleaner

Jeez I sound so “White” when I list the books I read as a teenager…. I’m kind of embarrassed.

But I was a sign of my times…

Now I’m trying to be a sign of THESE times. Actually I know that might sound lame. But I am, we are, on our way into full equality. Thank GOD.

Sunstars,
You have nothing to be ashamed of or embarrassed
about. Being White is no “sin,” nor any other color of skin.

You were not, and are not willfully or purposefully unaware or ignorant, nor intent on using any such contrived ignorance for your own selfish purposes. You did the homework of the heart! You read what was available to help you understand as best you could how and why others less privileged than yourself actually live. Would that we have had more who have done as have you!

Most of us are not lawyers. We do not always know precisely what to do when we see injustice, certainly not as individuals. But to acknowledge it, and internalize that knowledge, sets us up for deeper understanding and consequent action. It sets us on the quest; prepares us for whatever action need be taken when the opportunity arises, be that in a voting booth, or some other capacity.

The Right Wingers love to hate us. They love it when we feel ashamed of being White. To them, such feelings are signs of weakness and inferiority, all the more to hate us, to punish and prey upon us, and those for whom we have felt empathy, sympathy, or compassion.

NO! Let us not be ashamed of being who we are. If we are Liberal let us be so proudly. It is not a perfect tradition, but is certainly a noble one. We share it as a common political quest, ultimately spiritual in nature.

It is easy to feel disillusioned right now. Our opponents have lost their way. They have lost faith in our common quest. Some sadly never shared our vision. We know our Pluto return and later Uranus return are about tearing down old power structures and edifices of thought, but surely that is in the service of our long overdue restoration and renewal.

Historically, after every plague there was a golden period in which the fortunes of the poor and the middle class dramatically improved. (Labor shortages will do that.) May it be so for all of us as well. How could it be otherwise when Pluto moves from Capricorn into Aquarius in November of 2024?

The rabid Reactionary right-wingers will also be substantially de-fanged once Pluto moves on from Capricorn, Eliseo. They obviously won’t go away entirely, but they will no longer have Pluto propping them up and pushing them to fight for their survival.

When Pluto leaves Capricorn, we will also see the Conservative political “movement” and infrastructure die back, if not outright collapse. This could happen a lot of ways, but will probably come about in part due to the decline & death of key/instrumental figures such as Rupert Murdoch and Charles Koch, and possibly the dissolution/crashing of their literal fortunes due to economic dislocation and/or the imposition of new taxes and restrictions on elite wealth and influence, also no longer able to fend away such boundaries with Pluto gone from the sign of the elites and most-privileged by virtual of fortune and built-in structural advantages.

The Republican Party–as well as conservative political parties everywhere–will also see its fortunes and power curbed back due to the decline in financial and media support, and successful, likely aggressively radical and out of the box (Pluto in Aquarius) challenges levied to its desperate attempts to grab and put a structural (Pluto in Capricorn) lock on power in government. It could very well be broken up into two or more factional parties as a result of electoral reforms that split the parties and create greater transparency around ideological/political groupings and coalition-building.

The centralization & authoritarian impulse is also Capricorn at its worst extremes, driven there by Pluto. Capricorn in its purest form also has a distinctly “conservative” bias.

Obviously, there are Sun and Moon Capricorns who are quite liberal and progressive as individuals, and that leaning could be the result of many other placements and life influences.

When Pluto moves into Aquarius, we will see structural centralization and authoritarianism give way to radical democratic decentralization and libertarianism. This can actually manifest in both conservative and liberal respects, sometimes overlapping in odd, contradictory, and novel ways.

I do think for this reason that we will see a breakup of the Dems and GOP here in the US in favor of some sort of open-ballot proportional representative system that supports multiple parties and coalition building.

It’s absurd to think that we continue to conduct our politics in the 21st century here in the US as if there are always, always, always, just two choices. We live in a 3D (I know, some say 4D or 5D world) yet we continue to apply an archaic 2D system frame to it, and then complain and act out in furious and destructive ways towards each other because the either/or approach does not achieve any meaningful progress and results, time after time. We’re behaving like fish in a bowl of water–sitting on the ground in the middle of a forest. The world is complex and vivid, but we and our media insist that there are only two colors in the picture, black and white, or red and blue. When do we break this silly frame, and step outside of the bowl, outside of the box? I suspect during the next few years, we will be increasingly challenged to do so.

A national split-up is also possible, though maybe not as likely as we romanticize. In practice, it would turn out to be far more destructive and messy than we can imagine. More ideal would be some sort of organic restructuring at a local-regional level in which metropolitan areas and perhaps whole states or broader regions (e.g. New England) assume some degree of governing autonomy, yet still remain integrated within the US. The Midwest isn’t going to send ambassadors to Japan, for instance, but it could take on a much more active role in coordinating economic development within a multi-metro and multi-state compact of sorts.

BuckeyeShadow,
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Well said on all points.

“When Pluto moves into Aquarius, we will see structural centralization and authoritarianism give way to radical democratic decentralization and libertarianism. This can actually manifest in both conservative and liberal respects, sometimes overlapping in odd, contradictory, and novel ways.”

Yes, I agree. In Europe the word “Libertarian” connotes a politically Leftward leaning, whereas here in the US it connotes the opposite. Perhaps our focus on structure will give way to more focus on process? That might well result in overlapping, what to us now would seem odd, contradictory, and novel arrangements.

I also agree a breakup of the Dems and the GOP would be desirable IN THE CONTEXT YOU PROVIDED. Were it not for such consistent R opposition, I think it likely the Dems would split into at least two parties. If the R party is sufficiently discredited morally, and as you suggested its elderly benefactors die off, I can see it shrinking into a far smaller minority caucus. The moderate Dems might then be perceived as the “conservatives” (relatively speaking) and the Progressive Dems a distinct party of their own.

Having only two choices is ridiculous. At times we see the R party choosing to ignore or deny a problem, whereas the Dems acknowledge it, but propose IMO bad, unworkable, or counterproductive “solutions”. Who do we vote for then? I’m not suggesting ALL Dem solutions are bad. Most are OK. But some are based more in ideological fantasy than in objective reality. For over a century it seems to me, R policy has been almost totally based on self serving ideological fantasy.

Presently, IMO both parties are much too wedded to ideology, and obtaining and maintaining power. I’ve seen both sides purposefully misinterpret numbers and statistics to “prove” how well they’ve done, or how well some particular program worked when it did nothing of the kind. Policies implemented can be an absolute and total failure, but the politicians will spin it as having been just wonderful. We seem to love brainwashing ourselves when our side is in power.

A multiparty system with proportional representation would mitigate more toward compromise. That would be better than what obtains now. The primary problem with it, as I see it, would be that compromise does not always provide rational, pragmatic solutions or courses of action.

A “multi-metro and multi-state compact of sorts” makes sense, but I’m not sure what the best form for that would be. Bioregions? Cultural or economic regions?

In many respects our states as they are now divided seem to me obsolete, primarily because 98% of us live in urban enclaves. We seem to have devolved into city-states! Unless ALL of us go to working remotely, as biotechnology develops there will be fewer and fewer jobs available in rural areas, which will drive more of us into the cities.

Frankly, the part of Texas in which I grew up has far more in common with Louisiana than with the rest of Texas. Furthermore, there are now several metropolitan statistical areas which overlap two or more state boundaries.

On November 15, 1777, while Pluto was in Capricorn, the Second Continental Congress approved the Articles of Confederation, and sent them to the states for ratification. After ratification
they came into force on March 1, 1781, while Pluto was in Aquarius. That astrological difference may be at the root as to why the Articles did not work well, and were necessarily replaced by our Constitution.

I don’t see another Constitutional Convention in our future, but more likely ten or so new amendments which collectively alter our way of governing significantly. All those ratified, are likely to be proposed and implemented while Pluto is in Aquarius.

Yes, I know how difficult it is to ratify new amendments. But such things are more likely to occur in reaction to extraordinary events and circumstances.

And of course, here we are. We live in what feels like exceptionally odd, weird times. Rod Serling could not have written a plot with more twists, strange sociopolitical delusions, and unlikely events and characters as we have been subject to so far.

As I see it we are in for more weirdness and unexpected, extra-ordinary, events for the foreseeable future, domestically and upon the world stage, though I hope the number, breadth, and depth of the body politic’s odd delusions diminishes. I think for our latter day fascists, as well as for the rest of us, this present time feels like a nightmare. Citizens will want fixes, i.e. laws and amendments designed to prevent any such nightmare from recurring, and to insure stability, progress, and equal justice, per our foundational values.

In case you missed this,

(CNN)Devin Nunes, a Republican who has represented California since 2003, has officially resigned from Congress, ending a nearly 20-year stint in the House of Representatives.

Nunes, a close ally of former President Donald Trump, announced in December that he was leaving Congress at the end of 2021 to become CEO of the Trump Media & Technology Group. His departure also comes as midterm elections kick off in which he faced the threat of a more-Democratic district through redistricting.
“I was presented with a new opportunity to fight for the most important issues I believe in. I’m writing to let you know I’ve decided to pursue this opportunity, and therefore I will be leaving the House of Representatives at the end of 2021,” Nunes told his constituents in a letter issued in December.
His resignation was effective January 1, 2022.
Nunes served as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee when Republicans were in the majority in which he led efforts among Trump’s allies to discredit the FBI’s Russia investigation and Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe. His role as an attack dog against the Russia probe raised his popularity among Trump’s supporters, and he became a top fundraiser in the House GOP conference as he gained stature on the right.
He was also an outspoken defender of Trump during his first impeachment, and the then-President awarded Nunes the Medal of Freedom in 2021.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/04/politics/devin-nunes-resigns-from-congress/index.html

After Trump Aide’s Admission On Air, New Heat On Coup Plot

Video: 11 min 30 sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB8wwHJ4LFs

Jerry,
Thanks for then video.
WOW!
As long as these guys are alive they are a serious danger to the republic and the world. Can you imagine had they succeeded in their coup – the United States would be the most powerful nation in history as well as an aggressive fascist state with nuclear weapons.

Under federal law the maximum penalty for insurrection is ten years plus fines. The maximum for sedition is twenty years plus fines. These guys need to be locked up for the full twenty with no chance of parole, and barred from communication with anyone except FBI and possibly other law enforcement agencies and officers.

In Trump’s case, sedition is only the beginning. Add in multiple rapes, multiple cases of fraud, money laundering, election tampering, tax evasion, revealing state secrets to our enemies, violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution, and God knows what else he’s hiding under that odd mop of hair on his head.

Although one Pluto cycle ago George III and the British Parliament of yore made some serious errors in judgement as to policies toward the colonies, I do not believe they were nearly as crazy, stupid, or delusional as is Mama DJ Trump or the angry lemmings who’ve imprinted on him.

Throw them in jail. Throw away the key. Give them lots of drugs, and when they die, secretly bury them at sea.

Hi Eliseo,

Although I understand the sentiment, it may be equally important to not lose sight of the ultimate goal. Under the present leadership, we may be passing through some difficult challenges, but as one of the videos I had posted earlier suggests, the Pluto/Venus/Mars conjunction on the US Pluto return in late Feb/early March has all the characteristics of a deepening on many levels.

As a refresher, here is that video once again…..

VENUS RETROGRADE CONJUNCT PLUTO Relationships & Value Systems Transform.

Video: 24 min 35 sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh37LaFog8A

The Venus/Pluto/Mars conjunction falls right on the Kamala Harris/Joe Biden composite South Node. Would that suggest a thorough re-examination of values? Here’s the composite chart……

https://village.photos/images/user/80a4477b-df60-435d-b884-ac60d268982b/4817ce17-8394-4dc8-bd07-e7128d4396de.png

And here is one astrologers interpretation of what a tr. Pluto conjunct natal South Node entails…….

“Pluto conjunct South Node reveals injustice, all maneuvers from politicians, businesses and bankers to keep people dependent. This conjunction requires from those in power to change the laws that rule the country. It requires from every one, including the people, to be genuine and authentic.”

Transcription of Attorney Merrick Garland’s speech yesterday, 1/5/22: EXCELLENT! He does not say he is investigating any of the higher ups yet but I wouldn’t expect that he would. Yet, his statements does not preclude that either. I am sure he is doing EVERYTHING he can as he says and that if there is evidence to indict, he will take it very seriously.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-merrick-b-garland-delivers-remarks-first-anniversary-attack-capitol

Sharon K,
Thanks Sharon for the link to the transcript.
The accepted and common practice of course doesn’t allow him to be specific as to any higher ups, but it appears plain they also are in investigative focus.

“The central norm is that, in our criminal investigations, there cannot be different rules depending on one’s political party or affiliation. There cannot be different rules for friends and foes. And there cannot be different rules for the powerful and the powerless.” – Merrick Garland –

Some definitions:
Generally, sedition is conduct or speech that incites individuals to violently rebel against the authority of the government.

Insurrection includes the actual acts of violence and rebellion.

Under 18 U.S.C. § 2384, “seditious conspiracy” occurs when two or more persons:
conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof.

Insurrection is captured by 18 U.S.C. § 2383 and applies to “[w]hoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the law there, or gives aid or comfort thereto.”

https://www.csis.org/analysis/understanding-insurrection-and-sedition

From what I understand, the two concepts overlap. Insurrection can get you ten years of prison time, sedition twenty.

My nephew, a Dem, is concerned that if DJT is indicted and/or convicted his supporters will riot and we will have a messy, disorganized civil war. He’s therefore opposed to indictment and trial.
My feeling is that if Mr. T is NOT charged, etc. i.e. he gets away with it, the door will be wide open for others to behave as he has done.

IMO, had Nixon been tried, convicted, etc. maybe Trump would never have gotten so far, maybe not even the R nomination.

Eliseo,

You expressed concern that “….. if DJT is indicted and/or convicted his supporters will riot and we will have a messy, disorganized civil war.”

Although fully justified and timely, President Biden, in a remarkable, fiery speech Thursday, marking the one year anniversary of the foiled insurrection on the Capitol building; condemned the “web of lies” spread by former President Donald Trump, blaming him directly for fomenting the attackers who tried to overturn the 2020 election.

This speech will certainly inflame the radicals. Up until now, Biden has deliberately taken a neutral stance in the ongoing investigations on the assault of the Capitol. Although well intentioned, Biden’s public statements may have placed himself as a primary “target”. There is reason for concern astrologically. The mid February astrological aspects with the Leo Full Moon has a fated signature to it because of its grand cross square to the nodes and Biden’s natal chart (see related entry I posted earlier on the Feb 16th Leo Full Moon). It also activates the August 21, 2017 eclipse, the so-called Great American Eclipse……..

DHS Warns Online Threats Have Increased On Extremist Platforms Over Past 48 Hours With Some
Against Lawmakers

CNN
January 17, 2022

There has been an increase in online extremist content in the past 48 hours, including threats to lawmakers and the President, according to a Department of Homeland Security intelligence memo obtained by CNN.

While there is still no indication of a specific and credible plot, officials fear the content could inspire violence, particularly by lone offenders. Law enforcement and federal authorities in the Washington, DC, region stepped up security efforts this week in anticipation of the first anniversary of the January 6 attack on the US Capitol.

The DHS intelligence memo warns that potential violence could be directed against political and other government officials, including members of Congress, state and local officials, and high-profile members of political parties.

Continued……

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/06/politics/dhs-online-threats-extremist-platforms-48-hours/index.html

Jerry,
It wasn’t my concern. It was my nephew’s concern indictment and trial would incite messy, disorganized civil war. My feeling is – whether or not Trumpeteers revolt or not, the cause of justice must continue. The man and his minions must be held accountable, or we shall have others attempting the same or similar tactics and conspiracies.

My nephew is likely right IMO. As I believe Trump & company will be indicted, etc. there probably will be violence. At this point, we just don’t know how much.

I’ve long expected we might descend into a scenario much like what obtained from 1865 through 1876. The Reconstruction era in the South was one of Confederate vs Union vigilante style gangs. It was as if every Southern state had a few 100 Timothy McVeighs leading their gangs into all sorts of lynching parties and terrorist activities.

Karma is karma. Dharma is dharma. Long standing cultural/historical moral struggles eventually are resolved. But in the US case, that process was planned badly, poorly executed, and left woefully incomplete.

It is my hope we can avoid such madness, and I believe we should take the necessary steps to prevent or at least minimize that potential. But I’m not optimistic. Sometimes such extreme passions, sadly cannot be resolved but through violence. Such is the level of consciousness of humanity as a whole.

Where I grew up there were plenty of latter day Confederates, eager to fight the “good fight” all over again, but this time win. I went to public school with a good number of George Wallace loving, Timothy McVeigh wannabes, proud of their white superiority, their Confederate flags, and their racism. I know these types. As a teenager and later as a young adult I was involved in the 60’s/70’s Civil Rights movement. Needless to say, they called me a “race traitor” and a number of other names I shall not put in print here, and they beat the crap out of me on a few occasions.

Over the decades, you can imagine how horrified I’ve been as I observed the gradual Dixie-fication of much of the rest of America. Now comes Trump, our avatar of the American Id, the rest of the story yet to be told.

Your interpretations of the astrological conditions you describe do not surprise me. In my lifetime I’ve not seen anything like what we are experiencing today. In the 60’s we had some violence and madness, but the Left was never as strong or numerous as the racist Right. Richard Hofstadter, (1916-1070) author of “Anti-Intellectualism in American Life”, The Paranoid Style in American Politics”, and many other tomes was utterly correct. The Left has never been the real danger to the republic. It has always been the far Right.

The grand cross square to the nodes and Biden’s natal chart, the uptick in threats to lawmakers, the president, and other government officials: None of that bodes well. I don’t necessarily interpret that as a sign our head of state will be assassinated, but agree he and the Secret Service need to be extra careful.

If the violence comes as we can reasonably expect, attempts at assassination, kidnappings, the burning and bombing of federal buildings, efforts to take over towns, cities, counties, states, etc. coordinated through internet will all be part of the Far Right game plan. That’s the way of modern civil war. Nations no longer square off in organized lines on battlefields.

If it occurs, I pray it be a short struggle, and this time a rational period of healing, reconciliation and genuine resolution when it is over.

Oops!
That should read, Hofstadter, (1916-1970)

Eliseo,

You’re right. I stand corrected. It was your nephews concern. I misread that.

Personally speaking, I think the current situation is intractable and inherently offers no viable political solution. Perhaps we are now being given a unique opportunity to rise above the petty politics. We may have no choice in the matter. The ability to tap into our inner being for the answer I.e. to look within may be the only sane thing we can do at this point. As one wise sage once said: ” Just sit and know that you are the “I am” without words. Nothing else has to be done. Shortly you will arrive at your natural absolute state”. Tapping into the Oneness that underlies all things is simple and disarming and yet because we tend to intellectualize everything, the simplicity of it eludes us. To be empty of all thought and conditioning. That is what love is. Non-judgmental awareness. I think we are heading in that direction. It’s just a matter of time.

Grateful for Merrick Garland’s speech and for Biden’s speech. Both, powerful speeches that have helped shift my pessimism and hopelessness to hopefulness. I am one of those who felt let down, frustrated and disgusted with Garland, regarding him as a milk toast and overly cautious man. If any of you felt as i did about him i encourage you to listen to his half hour speech.

I could be wrong but I feel that there will be some changes at SCOTUS this spring. I think Breyer will step down, Garland will be nominated and Harris will become AG and take charge of the cases against Trump – and yes the case against trump will be consumed by the pluto return. No idea who Biden will choose to be his new VP. That is my humble opinion.

Navarro and Bannon’s arrogance is astounding. I think they and the current gop higher ups are doubling down on their lies because of the proverbial ‘if we dont hang together we will hang separately”
We have a real problem here with the whole structure of the existing legal system being based on the fact that there will be honor and truthtelling from the accused, with the penalty for lying a mere slap on the wrist. Sadly, courage and honesty seem to be dying virtues among the gop vipers. Lets hope Liz Cheney is enabling courage to more.

Happened upon an English nursery rhyme, circa 1764, that pretty much sums up all – still.

Pluto finding a way to upend this would be welcome news indeed.

They hang the man and flog the woman
That steal the goose from off the common
But let the greater villain loose
That steals the common from the goose

The law demands that we atone
When we take things we do not own
But leaves the lords and ladies fine
Who take things that are yours and mine

A couple of weeks ago, astrologer Andre Kahr said in a video (was that in conversation with Linda G?) he predicted the GOP would fail in their efforts to take back either the House and/or the Senate in the Nov.2022 election.

Presuming he is correct, I’m wondering what events and circumstances might mitigate toward 2022 Dem success and R failure.
Deeply unpopular SC decisions? The Jan.6th hearings? The Dems pass enforceable voter’s rights laws? Events abroad? Widespread Trumpeteer violence? I seem to recall he was looking particularly at transits to the R chart.

Hopefully today I will find and revisit the video to see what specific astrological signatures he based his thoughts on. I do hope he is correct.

Kiwi,
Thanks for that prescient nursery rhyme. Absolutely perfect!

The new trend for ‘good ole white boys’?
Arbery killers just sentenced to life without parole.

Eliseo: Thank you for your post of Jan 7/22 at 7:54 am.

Yes I have suspected, being raised where you were raised that you had a full understanding of the Confederate.

and Kiwi – I have already taken that verse and sent it to numerous people in my life…….. 🙂

As read in The Atlantic regarding the latest COVID-19 surge, it’s impact on our hospitals, and our societal attempts to downplay or dismiss the central issue and its implications:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/01/omicron-mild-hospital-strain-health-care-workers/621193/

“There’s a plausible future in which most of the U.S. enjoys a carefree spring, oblivious to the frayed state of the system they rely on to protect their health, and only realizing what has happened when they knock on its door and get no answer. This is the cost of two years spent prematurely pushing for a return to normal—the lack of a normal to return to.”

We had the answer in the beginning. Saturn in Aquarius gave us the value of working together by staying apart, that it would serve the greater whole. But we couldn’t maintain that—we’ve been cutting corners since late spring when a bunch of Conservative Reactionaries threw a temper tantrum and made it political.

And now we pay the price. Saturn does not support cutting corners.

Jerry et al: re. your comment, “I think the current situation is intractable and inherently offers no viable political solution” – I agree. No viable, but also no visible solution is in sight.

However, I took a deep dive into some charts again and in Trump’s chart I note that he has:

– transiting Saturn opposite his progressed Pluto in the 12th, but trine his progressed Mars in the 2nd,

-transiting Pluto is inconjunct (150) to his natal Mars on the Ascendant,

– transiting Mars opposes his natal Uranus in the 10th (but sextile his natal Jupiter in the 2nd,

– transiting Uranus RX in the 9th is square his natal Pluto – but it is retrograde until January 17/22, then direct until August, and retrograde again until Jan 21/23, around which time Congress will have resumed. This Uranus retrograde cycle is near the degrees of Trump’s natal Uranus/Gemini and Jupiter/Libra trine. The natal trine degrees pull it in Trump’s favor and the transits set them off. I doubt any legal action is going to beat this, although the transiting Uranus and the other aspects may prevent him from ever running again. It looks like it could tip either way.

– transiting Neptune on the cusp of the 8th is inconjunct progressed Pluto in the 12th

– progressed Uranus in the 10th opposes his natal Moon at 21 Sag. (and will do so for years). At the same, progressed Venus trines the progressed Uranus and sextiles the natal Moon – yet again, the positives offset the difficult planets.

– his progressed Ascendant has just gone past 0 Scorpio in the 3rd, a critical degree. Scorpio indicates he will both examine and be examined in a strategic way. In the 3rd, the emphasis is on advisors, legal and otherwise.

All along it has appeared that some serious obstacles and delays will transpire to halt Trump’s progress toward 2024. With such a heavy line-up, this time is likely the beginning of the ‘real’ obstacles, whatever they may turn out to be. I was not surprised to read in the news that his speech on Jan. 6 was cancelled.

I expect Trump will have challenges from now on because of the emphasis on the 3rd and 9th houses, but because of the 12th we won’t know much of what will transpire. Undoubtedly, Trump will be highly combative – transiting Pluto inconjunct his natal Mars / Asc. is likely to set him off in a big way, to overpower his opposition. The deal making begins.

Transiting Saturn opposing his progressed Pluto in the 12th is the key, in the short run. Saturn brings delays and also possible health issues (being in the 6th, and opposing the 12th of institutions like hospitals). But it may have nothing to do with his health. It could be any 6th/12th house matter, including twists and turns by his close associates (progressed Mars from the 3rd).

One must remember astrology doesn’t really do a good job of predicting specific events, or outcomes, or even the relative seriousness of events. It is a combination of factors that ‘builds’ the case and indicates ‘conditions’ that pertain to the person and the times. And most importantly, the interpretation depends on the skills and objectivity (especially the latter) of the analyst, which is where I get off the bus.

Nonetheless, the opposition to the 12th indicates secrecy and forces hidden from the public eye. Justice may be done in time, but imo, the public is unlikely to get satisfaction any time soon.

Thanks for the nursery rhyme, kiwi….it’s excellent and the stuff that revolutions are made of (normal ones, not the Jan 6th one) but….sometimes the revolutionaries also go too far. If we find enough honest men and woman, we can change the system from within or at least protect it.

It’s always good to see justice done (regarding the killers of Ahmaud Aubery).

Correction: ….including twists and turns by his close associates (progressed Mars from the 3rd)….should be from the 2nd of personal finances/taxes etc.

Sorry, another correction (I should have proofed more!): – transiting Neptune on the cusp of the 8th is inconjunct progressed Pluto in the 12th —– should be inconjunct progressed Mercury (news) in the 12th. The news or communications will likely be more hidden than not.

Does anyone here have any knowledge of either phobias or anxiety in astrological context?

Is it possible to see indications of such problems and/or their cycles in natal, transits and progressed charts?

I have a pretty extensive astrology collection of books, but nothing on the astrology of mental health.

Beowulfie,

Re: transiting Pluto is inconjunct (150) to his (Trump’s) natal Mars on the Ascendant,

Yes. That is the emphasis of the February 16th Full Moon I attempted to explain. The Feb 16th Leo Full Moon conjoins Trump’s natal Mars/ascendant degrees in quincunx to tr Pluto (the US Pluto return at this point is nearly exact). It is in grand cross square to the nodes (destiny points). Also in effect is the Venus/Mars conjunction (17 Capricorn) in quincunx to Trump’s natal Uranus (17 Gemini) and tr. Saturn (17 Aquarius) in trine to Trump’s natal Uranus. Perhaps something significant will be developing out of these aspects in mid February. A very interesting period to watch.

Addendum to the above….

Oftentimes it is relatively easy to be lulled into a state of complacency. The old adage – politics as usual applies here. The Democrats vs the Republicans, the endless partisan wrangling is what we have come to expect and are accustomed to. It is my feeling the US Pluto return however has unique significance. As a country we are entering unchartered waters. Something new and exciting may be coming our way…….

Astrology: Pluto To Bring The Foundational Transformation America Needs by Rio Olesky

Pluto represents the energy of transformation. It can focus on the lowest elements of human nature such as lust, betrayal, manipulative secrecy and unbridled power. As an agent of transformation, it can also provide a process whereby we can eliminate those behavioral patterns and elevate our consciousness. Ultimately, by letting go of the lower patterns we can use this process to realize our potential to understand and embody universal laws. As such we can begin to understand the nature of reality.

Pluto is the slowest of all the planets in our solar system, taking approximately 248 years to complete one cycle. In the horoscope of the United States that most modern astrologers use Pluto will return to the point it occupied in 1776, our nation’s founding, in 2022-2023. However, it has been very close to that point this year and will continue to be until 2024. In that chart Pluto is located in the Second House, the one that pertains to financial security. Hence, it has been projected that the Pluto return will transform our banking system or the value of the dollar itself. All of which could come to pass. The Second House, however, pertains to more than just money. It also has to do with values; what we as a nation find to be the most meaningful qualities. According to the Declaration of Independence, all men are created equal. We have the right to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. So far so good. But the Constitution allowed only white, property owning men to vote. Thus this was a flawed document. Over time the Constitution has evolved. Everyone now has the right to vote and, theoretically at least, pursue meaning and security in life.

Could the current US Pluto return bring about a transformation that involves more than the banking industry and our currency? It seems to me that it not only could, but that it is.

Continued……..

https://www.sonomacountygazette.com/sonoma-county-news/astrology-pluto-to-bring-the-foundational-transformation-america-needs/

https://www.studyfinds.org/sun-and-moon-impact-behavior/

Right now Saturn 12 AQ is building to an exact opposition to Manchin’s natal Pluto at 13.5 Leo exact Jan 14 and to his natal Saturn at almost 15 Leo exact Jan 26.

Please send energy, thoughts, prayers, spells…whatever your particular bent between now and the end of January for him to support changes to the filibuster to pass voting rights protections legislation.

Hi Jerry, regarding your comment above pertaining to ‘all men are created equal’ and pluto.
Ive read some that say the declaration date chart is more aspirational, “the birth of an idea’, wheras the constitution date is the birth of the more ‘operational/functional’ chart.
And some further say, the current pluto return era means we are re-visiting the aspirational foundations, but it will not be until the constitution’s pluto return that significant meaningful change will occur.
Id be interested to hear what you think of that pov.

Kiwi,
That’s a few years from now. The Constitution went into effect in 1788 when New Hampshire ratified it.

Hi Kiwi,

From what I can gather, most professional astrologers regard  both charts, the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence as having merit. I think the reason why The Declaration chart of 1776 takes precedence over the other is that it is the first formal document that established and recognized the US as a separate and sovereign entity distinctly different from its colonial past. Whereas the constitution is a governing body of laws instituted to consolidate and implement its sovereignty into a legal coherent framework. At least that is my understanding of it.

On this day, the transition begins to our Constitutional government
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/on-this-day-the-transition-begins-to-our-constitutional-government

The Articles of Confederation
https://www.loc.gov/rr/program//bib/ourdocs/articles.html

“The present United States Constitution replaced the Articles of Confederation on March 4, 1789.”
Library of Congress Web Site | External Web Sites | Selected Bibliography

1789 March 04 Government under the U.S. Constitution begins
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/government-under-the-u-s-constitution-begins

From the SAMVA chart for the USA

Predictions for the USA in 2022
Friday, December 31, 2021
http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2021/

thanks Bob!
being as expert as you are, any pluto related interpretation/opinion from you regarding anticipating what might happen in real time going forward from here, would be welcome.
Happy New Year!

Short answer kiwi-
I think the Pluto return will signify major changes for the United States in many areas affecting the population. As transit Pluto’s return is configured with natal and progressed planets, midpoints, and aspects created by progressions of the natal chart and all of those are configured with ongoing transits while the return holds sway all areas of life will be touched by the return.

May all of us stay safe and healthy through these times.

Thank you kiwi for the well intended remark. I do not consider myself to be an expert in astrology, just an interested follower.

Re: The astrological charts for The US Constitution & The Declaration of Independence

I found an article that examines the properties of both charts; a very interesting analysis…….

Happy Independence Day America, Your Birth Chart Is a Mess

The astrology of July 4, 1776 and what it means for us today

……. The ratification of the Declaration of Independence is widely heralded as the birth of the United States, since that’s when we celebrate its inception. The Constitution is the document that guarantees and details our rights as citizens.

….. In order to better understand the United States, I analyzed the chart for both historical documents, which allows for some insight into the country. Astrology lovers can scroll to the bottom of this post for all the details on which dates and times were used.

…… Both the charts of the Declaration and the Constitution have Sagittarius Rising, which fits into the image of the U.S. being an abundant country that welcomes people from foreign lands, and the desire to honor one’s own religious or philosophical path.

The Declaration’s chart paints a picture of a nation that sees great transformation, wealth, and power from corporations and business. This is represented by Pluto in Capricorn in the second house. Pluto also deals with parts of life that are done in the dark or hidden from the public, like dirty politics, organized crime, and espionage. The CIA and FBI, for example.

An Aquarius Moon in this chart garners us much freedom in the way of communication, transportation, and expression. It represents the people and public opinion.

Continued……

https://zora.medium.com/happy-independence-day-america-your-birth-chart-is-a-mess-6b6b35c791a2

As aspects formed during the Pluto return for the United States involve various planets in the natal or progressed charts for the country changes in areas associated with them may be observed.

Aspects involving the Sun may accompany changes involving energy and/or leadership; involving Mercury – communications and/or commerce; Venus – benefits, health care; Mars – energy, military matters; Jupiter – successful endeavors in governing leadership, a positive economy; Saturn – reversals in the Jupiter areas; Uranus – scientific endeavors. Neptune and Pluto – who knows?

Thanks guys! Lots to read and absorb.

new from Marjorie
https://star4cast.com/january-6-gops-fortunes-tied-to-trumps/

Jerry,

So enjoyed the Venus retro/Pluto conjunct video. She’s rather captivating.

Frank – I agree about getting an encouraging lift from Merrick Garland’s speech.

kiwi – that nursery rhyme says it all!

Bob, good to see you back on the blog! Thanks to everyone for contributions.

Kiwi,
The rhyme you provided was a part of a protest song concerning the “Inclosure Acts”. (Archaic spelling) Wikipedia has an article about it.
“…cover enclosure of open fields and common land in England and Wales, creating legal property rights to land previously held in common. Between 1604 and 1914, over 5,200 individual enclosure acts were passed, affecting 28,000 km2 (1).” (Nearly seven million acres)

The verses you provided are the first two of four stanzas. The last two are:

The poor and wretched don’t escape
If they conspire the law to break
This must be so but they endure
Those who conspire to make the law.

The law locks up the man or woman
Who steals the goose from off the common
And geese will still a common lack
Till they go and steal it back

The verses were put to music by David A. Harley. From what I discern, the original tune may be lost. Below is the link to it as sung to Harley’s rendition.

https://whealalice-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/whealalice.com/2021/06/17/they-hang-the-man-and-flog-the-woman-demo/amp/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16417795398754&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwhealalice.com%2F2021%2F06%2F17%2Fthey-hang-the-man-and-flog-the-woman-demo%2F

This should cheer you guys up! Whoo Hoo!

(It doesn’t give much away but implies that a lot will come out.)

https://politicalwire.com/2022/01/09/ex-trump-press-secretary-gave-a-lot-of-names/

Will,

I agree. She is captivating. Not mentioned in this particular video but more than likely will be covered in some future presentation is when Venus goes stationary direct in Feb and then reaches its final conjunction with Pluto in early March. Venus’s role in its connection to the US Pluto return is fascinating.

Wow, how interesting. Thanks for that professor Eliseo!

Michael O’Riley has taken a look at America’s mental health. He uses Scorpio ASC which places Pluto in 3-H opposite Mercury. Makes so much sense. https://www.neptunecafe.com/newsscope

Hi kiwi,

For your information, the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union (ACPU), written in 1776-1777, legally established the United States as a national entity.

Maryland, which had been a holdout, due to Virginia’s Western land claims, was the requisite 13th and final state to ratify the ACPU in 1781.

In 1869, the Supreme Court concluded:

“By [the Articles of Confederation], the Union was solemnly declared to “be perpetual.” And when these Articles were found to be inadequate to the exigencies of the country, the Constitution was ordained “to form a more perfect Union.” It is difficult to convey the idea of indissoluble unity more clearly than by these words. What can be indissoluble if a perpetual Union, made more perfect, is not?” —?U.S. Supreme Court, Texas v. White (1869)

In other words, the US Constitution of 1789 was the second document with laws for the national entity established in 1781. It´s main aim was to make the union “more perfect.”

By comparison the Declaration of Independence was a “divorce cree”, signed by representatives of 13 free and sovereign States. While they were united in rejecting British rule, they were not yet legally a nation. For that the ACPU was required.

The time of the SAMVA USA chart is 5 pm, Friday, February 2, 1781 in Annapolis, Md, giving 20° Cancer rising in the sideral zodiac (11° Leo rising in the Tropical). Feel free to try it out.

As explained on my blog since 2007, the SAMVA USA chart is based on that historical foundation. Moreover, the horoscope has been further tested against significant trends and events in the history of the USA and with repeat accurate predictions.

All the best for the USA in 2022!

Rachel reports on Republican fake electors in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona forging, signing their names to official looking documents certifying that Trump had “won” in their state. They sent these fake, albeit notarized documents, as if they were real, to the National Archives and to the Congress for the purpose of the official count to be done January 6th.

It appears they were in on the plot to get Pence to certify the fake Trump electors and reject the genuine Biden ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3qlHKk_Bcw

I do not understand why these “electors” are not charged and awaiting trial. Why aren’t our state AG’s and Merrick Garland doing their jobs?

So, Andrew Yang has apparently formed a PAC to start a third party — the Forward Party — in order to strategically push for Ranked Choice Voting and other reforms to end the extreme political acrimony that has poisoned our politics and increasingly threatens to tear apart the country.

https://www.forwardparty.com/

Supposedly, it’s open to membership from both of the existing major parties, who would retain their current affiliation. This would be key to the Forward Party PAC building a centrist coalition with members of both parties that would then make a legislative push for RCV and other democratizing reforms.

I’m wondering if this is a prelude to what is to come when Pluto moves into Aquarius and the eventual emergence of other parties that stand as legitimate challengers to the status quo established Democrats and Republicans.

This is the link in which astrologer Andre Kahr offers the opinion the Dems will win the mid term 2022 elections retaining both the House and Senate. He correctly predicted the debt ceiling would be raised and a rational compromise would avert any crisis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kxbMsLli-s

It is from October 11, 2021.

DC Horoscope: SOTU 2022 (State of The Union address)

America 2022: Disjointed and Ill Yet Hopeful

by Jude Cowell

January 10, 2022

Shown below is a photo of the DC Horoscope of what is reported to be (per Speaker Pelosi’s invitation to President Joe Biden) the March 1, 2022 SOTU Address to a Joint Session of Congress concerning the State of our Union.

As scheduled, the SOTU 2022 chart is set for 9:00 pm est, Capitol Building, with 18Lib24 rising (bringing up Tr*mp’s natal Jupiter opposed by Speaker Pelosi’s natal Jupiter @18Aries at Descendant), and with Sun, Moon, Jupiter, and Neptune in the creative 5th house. A pile of trouble constellates around the IC of the chart (21Cap07) including the 2020 Saturn-Pluto Conjunction @22Capricorn which conjoined the natal Vertex of Herr Tr*mp.

Then as you see, intense conjunctions between Venus-Pluto and Mars-Pluto are lining up (both exact on March 3, 2022 – conjunct US natal Pluto @27Cap33) and, appropriate for a SOTU Address during difficult times in society, there’s a serious and tenacious Mercury-Saturn Conjunction @18AQ+ exact on the morning of the March 2, 2022 New Moon (12:35 pm est @12Pis07).

Therefore, SOTU 2022 will be delivered during the prophetic Dark of the Moon phase with major Piscean overtones. No, this date is not the most auspicious timing for expressing the optimism and enthusiasm that President Biden is bound to show during his speech – yet perhaps March 2022 is when Piscean compassion will be the most needed and valued:

Continued……..

https://www.starsoverwashington.com/2022/01/dc-horoscope-sotu-2022-unmarked.html

BuckeyeShadow,
Many Thanks for the link to Andrew Yang’s Forward Party. I’m definitely a fan of AY, and his ideas. I enthusiastically support all six of his core principles.

As for
Fact-Based Governance
Legislation should be judged on outcomes, not ideologies.

Well duh! Whereas modern day R’s are entirely and completely blinded by their ideology, Dems, usually having benevolent intentions, also have their ideological blind spots.

If your speculation turns out to be correct, that “this is a prelude to what is to come when Pluto moves into Aquarius and the eventual emergence of other parties that stand as legitimate challengers to the status quo established Democrats and Republicans” I will jump for joy and dance all night.

It was a difficult Rachel to watch….the bald-faced multiple forged signatures on fake documents from the vote counters of several states and ultimately filed in the National Archives by Trumpista operatives. So very corrupt and demoralizing.

Will,
I felt the same way. I find the incident with the Trump pseudo-electors far more disturbing than the violent putsch attempt of January 6th. It is far more intelligent and easier to take over a country quietly than with all the breaking of windows, violence and mayhem as occurred a year ago.

Furthermore, in how many other states might this have occurred that we are unaware of? It’s clear they are determined to do it again. If they are not soon arrested, convicted, and jailed they will do it at next election in 2024.

Eliseo,

I never thought I would live to see history in our nation like that which is unfolding. The audacious levels of unprecedented depravity and deeply-seated contempt for our democracy and the American people is Biblical in dimension.

Happy late new year. I took a look at the inauguration chart for 2025 with a few asteroids thrown in (I use HH and about the first 10 on astro.com) and Nessus tightly conjunct chart ruler Venus is not a pretty picture. Trying to get out of the city before 2025.

Will,
“…audacious levels of unprecedented depravity and deeply-seated contempt for our democracy and the American people..”

Yep. And it hurts. It hurts real deep.

By the “virtue” if I may use the term loosely, of having been born and matured in what for me was the wrong area of the country, I’ve been aware since childhood of the presence of the far right theocrats, their overlap with virulent racists, and their potential to take down the republic. What I did not anticipate was the triune “marriage” of the “Big Money Elite” the “Christian” Kooks, and the various neo-fascist gangs.

By 1981 I became convinced the anti-abortion horde would eventually succeed in overturning Roe. My post-1980 election realization was the Reagan revolution was a precursor to some kind of dystopic disruption similar but not quite the same, or as satirical as what Margaret Atwood later envisioned in “The Handmaid’s Tale.” To me, R. Reagan was the archetypal harbinger, the foreunner of a short series of “anti-Christs” to come at least a full generation later.

My awareness of these people deepened in the early 90’s when I did graduate work on the religious right. (I’ve been associated with the religious Left since my adolescence.)
Sometimes when we know some dark event or circumstance is probable, we like to hope we are wrong, taking some measure of security in our fragile denial. But frankly, the knowing expectation, the awareness pales miserably with the reality. I suppose knowing what I’ve known, I should have prepared myself emotionally. But I did not.

No matter one’s variety or depth of faith, the reality unfolding before us, the present and future events are to put it mildly, astonishing and confounding; they wrench my heart into something I do not recognize. I think it so for us all. And as of yet, I’ve found no consistently effective balm.

Regarding the current voting rights blockade by the repubs:
My cousin is visiting and I was showing her wiki’s page on Robert Mercer. I see it includes this sentence “Mercer has said that the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the landmark federal statute arising from the civil rights movement of the 1960s, was a major mistake.”
With his oversized $$$ influence with the current crop of repubs, might his influence be causing the current intransigence I wonder?
would love to see someone look at his chart and see what he might have in store. July 11 1945 no time.

oops that should be 1946

Not to be outdone by Manchin, Sinema just stated she will not budge on filibuster reform for voting rights…so it’s over.

Frank – Yah I saw that. Good thing I was alone for what I was saying to Sinema.

A couple years ago I saw a documentary of an alternate story of Vladimir Putin’s origins. Vera Putina claims to be his real mother. This would put his birth 2 years earlier, I am assuming – also on October 7 but in 1950 rather than 1952.

Ok – 1950 Year of the Tiger rather than 1952 Year of the Dragon.

1952 would give him our choice of a Gemini Moon (nimble and maybe the ability to live in his head) or Taurus – fixed and attached to comfort.

1950 would give him a Leo Moon with perhaps a conjunction to Pluto. This also could fit.

I did not re-do my task of fitting his horoscope to the takeover of Crimea, which I did originally back then to his 1952 birthday.

His time of birth is unverified but someone guessed 9:30 am He sure does LOOK like a Scorpio ascendant.

So many possibilities! If he was born in the wee hours. he could have a Leo ascendant with Pluto in Leo conjunct the ascendant. This would give him Moon in Taurus in square to Pluto.

And, this would give him easy compatibility to Alina Kabaeva, his long time companion born May 12 1983 at 11:30 am Tashkent Usbekistan. Cancer asc. – Sun and Moon in Taurus, Mercury and Mars in Taurus – Year of the Pig – what a dream for a dictator. Comfort oriented, sexual, homey, fixed, unquestioning, supportive.

So maybe more compatible with the 1952 Vladimir than the 1950 Vladimir – if 1952 was born with Moon in Taurus.

PWhew!! FINALLY! DOJ charges “seditious conspiracy” to Oath Keepers and others … the beginning…..!

The count has increased from 3 to 5 states from which false electors sent their signed, notarized, forged documents on official state stationary to the Congress and the national archives.

Nevada
Georgia
Arizona
Michigan
Wisconsin

How many more might discovered? Who was coordinating these almost identical efforts?

MERCURY & VENUS RETROGRADE, a Powerful Exchange into the Nodal Shift of 2022!! by Raquel Spring

Video:37 min 39 sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB8lH3oTNyg

DATELINE: Ukraine 27 February, 2014 (extracted from Wikipedia)

Russian special forces seized the building of the Supreme Council of Crimea and the building of the Council of Ministers in Simferopol. Russian flags were raised over these buildings, and barricades were erected outside them. Whilst the “little green men” were occupying the Crimean parliament building. Ukraine parliament in Kiev held an emergency session…..

Thus began Cold War 2.0 in Russian/US relations. With the Russian invasion and subsequent annexation of Crimea we have entered a new and dangerous post world war two era.

Fast forward 8 years later

Russia is now contemplating its next logical move under the obsessed nationalistic leadership of Russian president Vladmir Putin against the backdrop of severe warnings from the western alliance of dire economic consequences if it chooses to do so. An outright brazen invasion of Ukraine would have devastating economic effects for Russia and unforeseen consequences for the world at large.

Astrologically, there is an eerily similar situation happening with that of past events related to the Feb 27th 2014 invasion to that of Mercury stationing direct on February 3rd, 2022. The upcoming Feb 3rd Mercury station at 24 Capricorn positions itself right on Russia’s natal Saturn (DOB June 12, 1990 1:45 pm Moscow) in square to the US Mercury (24 Libra) and in near conjunction to Pluto and the US Pluto (27 Capricorn).

The February 27, 2014 Russian incursion into Crimea occurred with tr. Venus at 24 Capricorn in near conjunction to tr. Mars (27 Capricorn). I suspect events on the Ukraine eastern border could begin to materialize on or about February 3rd and reach fever pitch with severe economic sanctions levied against Russia at the time of the Mercury/Pluto conjunction (27 Capricorn) on February 11th.

U.S. Intelligence Agencies Point To Potential Russian Invasion of Ukraine Within A Month’s Time

CNBC
January 14, 2022

* Russia’s cyberwar campaign against Ukraine exploded in December, a pattern that U.S. intelligence agencies believe could signal a ground invasion within a month’s time.

*The new time frame was one of several details that White House press secretary Jen Psaki shared Friday about Russia’s intentions toward Ukraine, a longtime U.S. ally.

*Some American military analysts believe Russia has “prepositioned a group of operatives to conduct a false flag operation in eastern Ukraine,” Psaki said.

WASHINGTON – Intelligence agencies monitoring Russian cyber operations against Ukraine believe Russia’s pattern of activity could signal a ground invasion of Ukraine within the next 30 days, the White House said Friday.

The new time line is the latest sign of how imminent the Biden administration believes a Russian attack against Ukraine could be, and how urgent its effort to negotiate a peaceful settlement has become.

Continued…….

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/14/russia-could-invade-ukraine-within-next-month-us-intelligence.html

It’s a lot.

The complete change in consciousness of the people who carry the “Republican Party” name….. to fully embracing the concept that the US should remain with only White Men in charge….

and the visibility we have of one man – Putin – who is going to take his vision of Russia to the limit no matter what the cost to millions of people in Russia and the Ukraine.

One man – ONE MAN!! affecting life horribly for MILLIONS of human beings.

If ever there was a case of Democracy – self determination – this is it.

Thank god for the Internet. We get to see it all.

More fake electors!
We are now aware of R pseudo-electors from SEVEN states. Pennsylvania and New Mexico are added to the list.

In alphabetical order:
Arizona
Georgia
Michigan
Nevada
New Mexico
Pennsylvania
Wisconsin

We can’t help wondering. Might there have been more?

Fake Election Certificates In NM and Other States Shed Light On Plot to Overturn Biden Victory

https://abq.news/2022/01/fake-election-certificates-in-nm-and-other-states-shed-light-on-plot-to-overturn-biden-victory/

Joni “Way-Cray-Cray” Patry tips her hand in a big way regarding her political persuasions.

https://youtu.be/vAaw-jUoom8

Joni “Way-Cray-Cray” Patry tips her hand in a big way regarding her political persuasions. Everything but the kitchen sink, Children!

https://youtu.be/vAaw-jUoom8

Dear Will,

Re: The Joni Patry video

I watched the video. I made an effort to keep an open mind about it. Are you referring to Joni’s assessment of Biden; his “weak” accomplishments and the possibility that he may find himself politically sidelined in the days ahead (VP Harris taking over the Presidency in Feb, Aug or October?).

Personally I wouldn’t interpret her observations as political. Those are fair assessments; a perception held by some. Biden, in spite of his best, hurculean efforts to put forward his agenda has been marginalized, unable to pass major portions of his legislation due to inertia (lack of momentum). And for very good reason. The Republicans are proving to be intractable and unreasonable in their demands.

The other point Joni mentions…….. Biden’s decision to completely unilaterally withdraw from Afghanistan. That decision in fact has proven to be in retrospect short-sighted and ill advised. His age seems to be a factor. Unquestionably, Biden’s vitality and effectiveness has diminished over the years. Let’s face it, he is not the same vibrant eloquent politician we had witnessed as a junior senator during the Watergate hearings some fifty years ago.

Joni alludes to the tr. nodes in t square to Biden’s Sun/Venus placement in January an February. That is something I had touched on some time back. That transit could alter the status quo significantly especially when we hit the February 16th Leo Full Moon. The Mid Feb Full Moon forms a grand cross square to those aspects and quincunxes Pluto and the US Pluto return.

I think it’s entirely possible you may be mistaking Joni’s astrological skills and assessments with that of political bias. From my perspective, they are distinctly different.

CORRECTION: Read instead: The February tr. South Node conjoins Biden’s Sun/Venus placement (27/28 Scorpio).

This particular alignment usually denotes a diminishment of ones vitality and effectiveness.

I agree that the withdrawal from Afghanistan may have been short sighted and ill advised.

Biden is between a rock and a hard spot though in getting these bills passed. Does anyone on this blog have any other ideas that are better?

Biden is only one man and indeed he is privy to the best information about any situation in the US and in the World. But to repeat – he is only one man. The circumstances surrounding him are unbelievably difficult. It’s not all about him. I am pretty sure that any seasoned political scientist will say that it is the times as well.

Who could have forseen the stupidity and egocentricity of Manchin and Sinema? Who could have seen the utter depravity of the “Whites” in the Republican party?…The ones who are trying to preserve the US as they knew it? We are just now seeing it as it unfolds. Yes, it has been predicted – but how strongly and for how long?

Biden is good but he is not superhuman. I would like to know a public or private person who approaches that kind of elite knowledge because we sure need her now.

🙂 Or him

I meant to say “that kind of elite knowledge” to get us out of this ….. !

sunstars,

Well said. The point I was trying to make earlier and I hope it is not too presumptuous of me to say this, but I feel Biden may be way past his prime and not up to the task. Although well seasoned and politically astute as you were suggesting, he doesn’t appear to have the intellectual acumen and adeptness that inspires confidence. A young Biden would have been ideal in the current complicated, difficult times we live in.

The following video serves as a contrast. It conveys a little of what I am trying to get across……

Young Joe Biden on Campaign Finance Reform (1974)

Video: 12 min 15 sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIZmZe7fe3E

Sunstars,
RE: your 1-16-2023 4:53 am posting.
Well said! Many here in the US and abroad are I believe seriously underestimating Mr. Biden. Part of that is the unprecedented strangeness of the era we now inhabit, and part is I think ageism. And no one ever provided Mr. Biden or any of the rest of us with a manual to guide us in how to manage ourselves, our thoughts, emotions, and the nation itself in the face of so many Neptune intoxicated Kooks, Crooks, and Power addicted, dishonorable liars.

I feel/sense greatness in the man which I expect to be demonstrated relatively soon. No US president or congress has had to deal with a Pluto return before. It feels like we are enduring a huge, psychic hurricane and metaphysical earthquake simultaneously. Fearful talk grows of a 2nd Am. civil war domestically, and abroad.

What we see in the skies and in our charts syncs up perfectly with what we see in the present and evolving circumstances, events, social psychologies and pathologies of this peculiar time. Extraordinary political and environmental developments are coming, as consequential as any we’ve experienced. I think it highly probable, as one of several examples, the Russians will soon invade Ukraine. Concomitant with shocking revelations gleaned and widely publicized from the Jan.6th congressional hearings, to soon be broadcast publicly, several members of both US Houses will likely be exposed and expelled.

We’ve had nothing but mediocre to poor presidents for the past 52 years, regardless of party. I believe Mr. Biden will probably outshine them all. He is uniquely qualified to meet the exigencies of these times.

Let us be patient. Things are about to change.

Eliseo,

Just a hunch., but I think Biden’s legacy will be remembered not for what he did or will do, but for his willingness and daring to try to change the shifting winds of the far right. Whether he will be successful in that endeavor or not is yet to be determined. Politically, it appears his hands are tied. It will take a deep grass roots longing for change that will bring about the lasting transformation we are seeking. It has to come from within. Superficial change is not the solution.

I have to say that Biden has done great, all things and factors considered. He has been a strong anchor for this country and succeeded in turning things around to some extent. I am SO proud of him. This is a tough country for progressives/liberals/Democrats at this time. We have some very powerful and determined opponents. Let’s hope you are right, Eliseo, and things are about to change…and, yes, it has to come from within. As of now, some gerrymandered maps have been thrown out in OH and NC (I don’t know if it was the entire state or certain districts). The problem is people getting to the polls when transportation for them is difficult and absentee ballots are not allowed. And then, of course, Manchin and Sinema… As sunstarts said, Biden is only one man.

Jerry,

No one can deny you as Joni’s champion and protector. I wonder however if you haven’t taken on an unworthy liability. You have made a rather obstinate point of assuming a fierce devil’s advocate position to anyone who casts shade on her and her musings. Perhaps her invocation of the nuts and bolts of familiar Vedic astrology tug at your Indian heart-strings. Whatever the case may be, your fine mind seems oblivious to the con-woman she is. I too have my fair share of critical thinking facilities; I’ve watched and listened attentively to a number of her You-Tube “presentations.” To me, she remains a slick, big-haired Texas huckster who wears 30 lbs. of whore make-up and wraps her wares (crypto- currencies last year, cheaply-produced astrological “jewelry” her very own vedic astrology university, etc) in a lexicon of Hindu and New Age verbiage with the manic overdrive of an Amway sales rep on an extra-large hit of Red Bull.

So please Jerry, enough with the “Joni-splaining.” I have a right to my own perceptions.

Here’s an interesting insight that I just found on Democraticunderground.com, posted by Joinfortmill:

The Hartmann Report: The Supreme Court Sets Up American Oligarchy
https://hartmannreport.com/p/sunday-excerpt-the-hidden-history-1d4?

https://democraticunderground.com/100216253171

The Supreme Court Sets Up American Oligarchy
If you were looking for a date when our modern American oligarchy started, it would be January 30, 1976. It was a clear day in Washington, DC, the temperature well above freezing with a light wind.

When the Supreme Court handed down their decision in the case of Buckley v. Valeo, the New York Times noted in a front page article, “Campaign finance law in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and 32 other states will require drastic revision in the wake of yesterday’s Supreme Court decision that struck down nearly all limits on campaign spending by candidates for Federal office.”

It was the first of a cascade of decisions that reached their peak in 2010 with Citizens United v. FEC.

My Dear Will,

To be clear, I don’t feel particularly drawn to Joni Patry per se. To me she appears to have a certain grasp of the fundamentals along with an intuitive perception of astrology that I find interesting. Nothing more, nothing less. To me, she is just one of many astrologers who have something valuable and valid to share. She contributes a facet to astrology that is worth considering. Nothing to get worked up about. Your insistence that she is misguided, politically driven and self centered, that assertion is puzzling to me. I just don’t see it. Never once does she ever coin things in terms of the Democrats or the Republicans which would belie some kind of political affiliation. In any event I think you may have missed the underlying issue here.

You were objecting to her minimizing Biden’s importance as a leader AND I am simply suggesting that what she is alluding to is not at all preposterous and certainly not as you are insisting, a malignment of Biden’s character. Leaving the personal preferences and assertions aside and looking at it exclusively through the lens of astrology, here is my personal take on it…….

Believe it or not, Kamala Harris’s position as a potential Biden replacement has already happened – LITERALLY. Perhaps we may have forgotten but Harris briefly took over the presidency within a 6 hour window of the November 19th lunar eclipse (refer to the article below). The astrological significance of that event is stunning. The eclipse (27 Taurus) was in precise opposition to Biden’s Sun/Venus placement. The upcoming February 16th, 2022 Full Moon will form a grand cross square to the Nodal axis (south node conjunct Biden’s natal Sun/Venus). It will be activating that eclipse once again. In other words the potential is there for a recurrence of the November 19th event, i.e. Biden stepping down as President, but on a more dramatic scale because of the inherent quincunx of the mid February 16th Full Moon to the US Pluto return. Here’s the November 19, 2021 lunar eclipse chart for quick reference….

https://cafeastrology.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/full-moon-lunar-eclipse-november-2021.png

And here’s an article describing the events of November 19th, 2021:

Kamala Harris Held US presidency For 1 Hour 25 Mins: White House

Deccan Herald
November 19, 2021

Vice President Kamala Harris held presidential powers for a total of one hour and 25 minutes while President Joe Biden was under anesthetic, the White House said Friday.

The White House press office said that official letters to Congress declaring the temporary transfer of power were sent at 10:10 am (1510 GMT).

“The president resumed his duties at 11:35 am,” (1635 GMT), the White House said in a statement.

Biden, the oldest person to hold the presidency in US history, went to the Walter Reed Medical Center just outside of Washington early Friday on the eve of his 79th birthday.

The White House described the appointment as Biden’s “routine annual physical.” It was his first since taking office in January.

During a colonoscopy examination, Biden will be anesthetised and as in past practice, the vice president will assume power, which includes control over the US armed forces and the nuclear weapons arsenal.

“President Biden will transfer power to the vice president for the brief period of time when he is under anaesthesia. The vice president will work from her office in the West Wing during this time,” Press Secretary Jen Psaki said.

Continued…….

https://www.deccanherald.com/international/world-news-politics/kamala-harris-held-us-presidency-for-1-hour-25-mins-white-house-1052527.html

Jerry,

It’s okay if my assertions puzzle you. I do not share some of the assumptions you make about my perceptions. I’m not looking for your approval. I’m asking that you allow me my subjective interpretations as I have set them forth. That’s pretty much ot.

Hi Will,

You must realize that your initial Joni Patry posting was rather derisive and from my point of view not entirely impartial. Personally, I try to take into account not only the astrologers demeanor but also what is being conveyed I.e. the information that is being presented. If I feel there is a personal interpretation or slant to it, that is also taken into consideration. The point being, if what is being shared in this forum constructively contributes to the subject matter, if it adds to the discourse – where is the harm in sharing it? Obviously we have differences of opinion on certain issues, but that is after all the “spice of life”. You would probably be the first to admit that life would be terribly boring if we all agreed on everything. That’s why I enjoy your lively banter. You don’t mind “telling it like it is”. It’s refreshing.

We can agree to disagree. Can we let it go now or will you push me to become discourteous?

Dont know if you heard about the tongan volcanic eruption, but spare a prayer for them if you have time. We heard the explosions in NZ. Tidal wave here wasnt that bad, but phone communications with tonga still down, radio only.

Will,

I think if we stay within the parameters of astrology we’ll be alright. There are no issues from my side.

Eek! The problem with Joni Patry is that she doesn’t present well. You have to get past her appearance to hear what she has to say. I did make an effort to hear her and it seemed like she made some good points but I didn’t stay with her. Her presentation made me distrust her so with so many things to pay attention to I kinda lost it.

Sorry – I probably should have stayed out of it but I couldn’t resist.

Jerry, this is not personally against you but I, too have a very negative reaction to Joni. I find her repulsive.

She’s a smart lady and, of course, can use astrology to back up her positions but it doesn’t mean she’s right. We all know that astrology predicts possibilities, sometimes strong ones, but things often work out differently than a particular astrologer’s interpretation – which can be influenced by their personal preference especially when it comes to political astrology.

Joni was over-the-top thrilled over Trump. We actually went over this in the 7-30-21 thread: http://starlightnews.com/wordpress/2021/07/new-discussion-thread-6/ — just google “Joni” – there are 23 mentions of her name and in one instance, there is mention of a reading of hers entitled “A King is Born” where she references Trump without using his name.

My main point is that if you’re not a strong supporter of someone, you are going to sound a lot more objective and neutral than she does, which leads to the question: What kind of fool doesn’t see him for what he truly is and supported and still supports him?

I googled Joni on Amazon and found 12 books – very prolific. This one in particular caught my eye – https://www.amazon.com/How-Make-Money-Using-Astrology-ebook/dp/B00MH3UYAY/ref=sr_1_4?crid=18DMC94U4EI1&keywords=joni+patry&qid=1642370344&sprefix=joni+patry%2Caps%2C160&sr=8-4
which she appears to have used to good benefit.

She’s a smart lady and probably a skilled astrology but her values? Maybe that’s why she makes many of us here more than a little sick — but you find her to be a talented astrology and seem immune to the rest of who she is. She may be a gifted astrology but she cannot be counted on to be objective in her interpretations. I would definitely take her with many grains of salt. Let’s see where this new prediction about Biden’s presidency lands.

It may be that’s she’s right because — even a clock and all that…

I think I had a book by Ray Merriman about financial astrology. I think it’s in a box somewhere. OBVIOUSLY! or I might be talking from a different point of view.

Think I’m going to fish that book out.

I have read, and it seems to be true – that the idea of prosperity consciousness can really hurt a person. If one reads that they simply need to change their consciousness and they will suddenly become successful and rich……

Well, if you can’t do it (and you can’t in one easy lesson) then it lowers your self esteem and makes you less able.

So when Evangels preach the Prosperity Doctrine to potential new believers it can be very harmful, very toxic. The inability to immediately grasp what other people say they have grasped, can lower one’s self esteem to dangerous levels.

There are few shortcuts to changing whatever ails the average human being.

But I myself am going to review Ray Merriman’s book! Prosperity here I come! It’s all about the cycles. Hehehe!

I’ll let you know……

Actually her books seem to have some good premises.

Wish I had time and motivation to read them… After all, Jerry …. contempt prior to investigation is what I may be evidencing…..

So have you, Jerry read any of Joni Patry’s money/prosperity books, and what did you think?

I don’t deny for a moment that Joni Patry is not knowledgeable about astrology. I believe she is smart and clever. I do not however buy her interpretations. She throws a lot of predictions out there but only some of them prove prescient. I don’t fault her for wearing makeup or big hair – I do not however, believe for a moment that she is neutral. I also doubt she is spiritually-evolved. She’s quite driven and all about the Benjamins; She owns and her family own a French restaurant if I am not mistaken. No foul on that point either. And yes, as Sharon essentially stated, ‘Even a broken clock is right twice a day.”

sunstars,

The short answer to that is no. I have not read any of Joni Patry’s books. At first glance, her outward appearance can give one pause for thought. Admittedly, I find it kind of amusing. But you have to give her credit, she doesn’t seem to mind what others think. She’s a free thinker, knowledgeable about astrology and appears to have a certain intuitive perspective.

I read her January 2022 on her galactic center site.

Yes, she’s a Trumper. Not common in an astrologer.

So the false media is one and the same with Trump’s fake news.

She’s a middling good astrologer. Yes, her interpretations leave something to be desired I think. I haven’t read far enough to see the veracity of her predictions but given her soupy way of talking I can see where she could be interpreted as untrustworthy.

Funny, she talks about trust. Hmmm.

I wonder if she’s friends with Betsy De Vos….. Amway and all that.

Don’t get me wrong – I like Capricorns with Leo Moons – which is what Betsy De Vos is. But they are into Go Big Or Go Home.

And that’s NOT what you want to see dividing up the education of the children of America, when those who go to private schools CAN win at the Go Big Or Go Home game. Fostering inequality from the ground up is the antithesis of Democracy.

Capitalism itself has reached a tipping point and it looks like Joni Patry has bought the Capitalism Doctrine hook, line, and sinker.

We need to modify the way we do Capitalism because it has created such inequality at this point. Let’s hear it for Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren…..

Further, inequality was built into the US with the original sin of Slavery, and the conquering of the Aboriginal People.

However, the Constitution as written is GOLDEN. Now if Americans can only follow it.

And guard it. Guard the Constitution.

Sunstars,
There is a fair sized difference between what the New Thought theologians, (Unity, Church of Religious Science, Divine Science, etc.) originally called “prosperity consciousness” in the latter part of the 19th and early 20th centuries, and what the evangelical and fundamentalist hucksters made of it much later.

The original theory has some validity, in that our attitudes and self concept do affect how successful we might be, but all within the limits of our personal karmas. Furthermore, our personal karmas are connected to our group karmas. Personal karma can be quite varied, for some pretty severe.

Unfortunately, avaricious fundamentalist and evangelical predators fell in love with the phrase, severely misconstruing its meaning for their own selfish designs and purposes. As they reject the larger dharma/karma/reincarnation context out of hand, as well as the group karma connection, they present a very severe, absurd, and transparently greedheaded version of the notion. These spiritually salivating vampires gleefully suck our poor, lost, and abandoned souls for all they are worth. It is an evil business which our government inadvertantly
subsidizes.

Modern “prosperity consciousness” is the bastard, illegitimate child of its parental namesake.

sunstars,

You state Joni Patry is a Trumper based on her January 2022 astrological forecast that she posted on her Galactic Center website. So….. I “trumped” over there and read the contents. Can’t find anything that would indicate any kind of political leaning. Could you be more specific?

Eliseo: ‘Modern “prosperity consciousness” is the bastard, illegitimate child of its parental namesake.’

In my bookshelf beside me I have “Science of Mind” by Ernest Holmes.

In the late ’70’s and early ’80’s I used to read the monthly Science of Mind booklet.

In Phoenix in the middle late ’70’s I would go to the First Church of Religious Science on Sundays. I guess I was trying to find a “group karma”. They truly were genuine.

Those days are gone – for me anyway. Haven’t looked – can’t find – that group karma anymore.

It was better than the first two courses I took through the Church of Scientology – 1. Problems of Living 2. Introduction to Scientology.

They actually were really good books…. Sort of snuck you into Scientology.

Thank god my young husband got me out of that – I am forever grateful. That would have been the WRONG group karma.

Back to prosperity consciousness – I WONDERED where it had gone – I almost grieved it. I knew it had been perverted and the whole deal was confusing to me. So I just let it go. But I knew there was a pure version of it somewhere.

Jerry: You said about Joni Patry – “She’s a free thinker”

Yup. Uranus square Mercury – She’s born November 8 1955.

Okay Now I’m gonna go back to Galactic Center.

All Your Questions On The Pluto Return In The U.S., Answered (by Brittany Berringer)

Nothing says a cosmic rebirth like enigmatic Pluto, the power-hungry dwarf planet that symbolizes transformation and renewal. According to the stars, the United States is finally getting a spiritual makeover with its first-ever Pluto Return on Feb. 22, 2022. Astrologically, a Pluto return is when the heavenly body returns to the same position in a birth chart where it was when the chart began. It happens around every 248 years, meaning this is the Pluto return in the United States since the country was founded in 1776.

“Pluto rules death and rebirth, influencing the end and beginning of new karmic cycles. It also rules things like interpersonal skills, power struggles, and shows the source of your personal power. This planet is the portal through which your spiritual and shadow energy is transformed and released into the exterior world,” astrologer Lauren Ash tells Bustle.

Just like ever-elusive zodiac sign Scorpio, which it aptly reigns over, Pluto is a riddle shrouded in mystery. In astrology, this celestial body signifies the death of old traditions, the birth of new ones, and annihilating problematic dogma you’ve come to recognize as part of your DNA. A Pluto return, therefore, spells a metamorphic change in the country’s astrological history as it’s forced to meet the most hidden and not-so-noble parts of itself. It’s a time to air out the grievances, reflect, and completely rebrand.

“Pluto returns are about the ends of empires, the changing of guards, and the transfer of power,” Dana DeFranco, astrologer and co-host of the Allegedly Astrology podcast, tells Bustle. “America has Pluto in Capricorn in the second house of money, property, security, and values. Capricorn is the sign of infrastructure, hard work, and earning your keep. These concepts relate to traditional American values and the American dream.”

If you’re having déjà vu about the astrology of 2020, you’re not alone. Astrologers say it’s all kind of related, though. From the COVID-19 pandemic rocking the country at the start of the Age of Aquarius, to a summer of protests against racial injustice, along with heated tensions of the 2020 presidential election, astrologers believe these events aligned in time for America’s Pluto return.

“Since Pluto is a slow-moving planet, the transit of Pluto can have a 10-degree orb. Therefore, it’s fair to say that the 2020s, in general, have been impacted by America’s Pluto return,” astrologer MaKayla McRae, also known as The Starry Eyed Mystic, tells Bustle.

Continued…..

https://www.bustle.com/life/united-states-pluto-return-2022-meaning-dates-predictions

Sunstars,
There’s a good reason some wealthy Hollywood celebrities are $cientologist$! They can afford it!

Jerry: Joni says:

“But what is finally surfacing is the money trail leading back to China. This entire pandemic originated out of China and brought the world to its knees. This was obviously biological warfare as it began when Trump tried to make China accountable financially. The truth concerning China may not be uncovered, but they now know how to control the world through this new form of warfare.”

‘This was obviously biological warfare ….. The entire pandemic originated out of China….TRUMP tried to make China accountable financially.’

So how many Asians were killed in that massage parlor in March 2021? Lone gunman. Think he was a friend of Trump’s?

Eliseo: Yah! Haha!

“………Trump tried to make China accountable financially. The truth concerning China may not be uncovered, but they now know how to control the world through this new form of warfare.”

So sunstars, I gather from what you are saying, because Joni described the events emanating out of China as possibly a Chinese generated conspiracy aimed against the West which Trump subsequently declared was unacceptable and that they needed to be held accountable, that she is sympathetic to Trump and his policies? Perhaps a more honest, accurate and appropriate use of terminology would be to state that SHE felt the whole COVID 19 affair was a sinister plot hatched by the Chinese govt. and that Trump was justified in laying the blame on China. I don’t know sunstars. The evidence and jury is still out on that one. It’s a cautionary tale that hasn’t been proved one way or the other just yet. There is a smoking gun there but it can not be confirmed. Be that as it may, all in all, I am familiar with Joni’s writings and videos, enough to say that I haven’t seen or heard views that would suggest she is promoting a pro Trump stance. Her themes are always related to astrology.

Anyway, as I was stating earlier, I think it is in our best interest to approach these matters with caution, in a spirit of inquiry rather than unilaterally dismissing all of what is shared simply because because it doesn’t agree with our own views. She may be off in certain areas, but it is for us to discern what is true and what is not. I don’t see the necessity in coming to a conclusion one way or the other. I like Eckhart Tolle wise words on these matters when it it come to viewing things without judgment……..

http://jerrywatson.village.photos/images/user/80a4477b-df60-435d-b884-ac60d268982b/2a4a4dc0-a4c5-4730-b21e-0b967a9a88d5.jpg

Hopefully the reader will overlook the above typos.

bold

Joni Patry in her own words.

http://jyotishstar.com/jyotish-star-joni-patry-january-2015.html

Joni: But I am not finished! I just completed another book I am very proud of, The Secrets of Prediction …
The book begins with my initial awakening on November 21, 1963 when I saw astrologer Jeane Dixon on our black and white television beg President Kennedy to not come to Dallas or he would be assassinated. Then the next day the unthinkable occurred. I was 7 years old …

With a birthday of November 8 the above statement would yield a birth year of 1956 for Mrs Patry.

Bob,
Thank you for that interesting quote.
I find it fairly odd however. Ms. Joni Patry needs to clarify and refresh her memory. If I’m not mistaken, Jeanne Dixon did indeed predict JFK’s assassination, but she did not do so on television.

OK, I looked it up.
“Dixon reportedly predicted the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. In the May 13, 1956, issue of Parade Magazine she wrote that the 1960 presidential election would be “dominated by labor and won by a Democrat” who would then go on to “be assassinated or die in office though not necessarily in his first term”.[10] In 1960, as the election neared, she changed her mind and incorrectly predicted that Richard Nixon would win.[11] She later admitted she “saw Richard Nixon as the winner” and made unequivocal predictions that he would win.[12][10]” Wikipedia article on Jeanne Dixon.

I am of the opinion she was telling the truth regarding her visions, but did not always understand correctly what she was seeing or intuiting. She interpreted the February 4, 1962 planetary alignment as the sure sign the anti-christ was born on that day in Syria.

I like to try to avoid following people’s thinking down rabbit holes. During the AIDS epidemic when I lost so many of my friends, lovers and colleagues many of us believed it was bio-warfare by our government against us. It gave me a target to focus all my anger on and made sense given the way we were attacked and vilified by our government. Over the years that was disproven.

There are now so many rabbit holes that Americans are more than willing to jump into. The Chinese bio-warfare conspiracy is another. It is interesting to me that many of these rabbit holes link up with Trump, the Liar.

Michael Wolfstar has a follow up to his post last week on mental health in America. With Jupiter moving to conjunct Neptune in Pisces opposite the natal USA Neptune it is looking like our collective mental health will continue to deteriorate. https://www.neptunecafe.com/newsscope

Frank,
Many Thanks for the heads up re: the April 12th Jupiter/Neptune conjunction. For me, that’s fairly scary as it conjuncts my natal Moon.

Eliseo, although I’m just a dabbler, your Pisces Moon is being conjuncted by both rulers of Pisces…I think it sounds to me like you’re going to have a sublimely liminal experience. Do let us know and all the very best!

I think that one of the reasons Trump blamed China for the virus was to cover up his own inadequate handling of the situation which resulted in him downplaying it instead of realistically preparing the country for it. He is master of politicizing “everything” as part of his manipulating every situation for his own purposes. Sigh.

Was the virus part of a bio-weapon or of research associated to a bio-weapon? Possibly….but we cannot close our eyes to the fact that blaming China was Trump deflecting away from himself. He also blamed the WHO. As Frank said – Trump the Liar.

Sunandstars, Henry Weingarten is the expert in financial astrology. I once had a book by him about the stock market. Not sure if I can put my finger on it but there is a lot of stuff online about him and by him.

Eliseo, with my mars at 22-23 Pis and Venus at 24-25, I am well aware of the pitfalls of neptune (and a little scared and wary as well). I think if we stay grounded (and Wolfstar does mention the grounding affects of Cap & Taur at the end of the article) and do not fall into over-optimism and foolish risk-taking —- just stay grounded and practical, resisting escapes, negative thinking, over-idealistic expectations – and relay instead on realistic planning and not thinking emotionally but practically and logically, we will do ok. We can compare notes…and I know sunandstars is in there as well. When neptune t. my 1 degree Pisces sun – I actually WAS overconfident about the chance of something specific going in my favor and I foolishly talked it up, overplaying my hand – instead of the old “keeping the cards close to the chest” maneuver – and I lost and got hurt. BUT, after a few weeks of healing, I picked up the pieces and recouped and did well. I remember that period being when I was studying social work (sun in the 9th house) and I learned so much about poverty and solutions for helping society in general.

rely, not relay

Just read what Frank said and, yes, it could be a very spiritual, optimistic and feel-good time but also be careful not to get over optimistic and forget to be wisely cautious. 🙂

Also, Jup travels faster than Neptune so it will pass on leaving Neptune still involved in the transit.

You know, I once read that sometimes when Jupiter transits one’s sun sign, one of the things that happens is that we die and are released from out earthly trappings (As God tells Neale in Conv. with God, II I think, — the day that you die is the happiest day of your life).

Well, Jupiter transited my sun for the last time in the pasts month (it had transited it, retrograded and moved over it again), and I felt that much more upbeat for a number of days, but I didn’t die. But you know who did? Someone who was born on my birthday: Sidney Portier. Just a bit of astrology trivia.

Sharon,

“I think that one of the reasons Trump blamed China for the virus was to cover up his own inadequate handling of the situation which resulted in him downplaying it instead of realistically preparing the country for it. He is master of politicizing “everything” as part of his manipulating every situation for his own purposes. Sigh.

Was the virus part of a bio-weapon or of research associated to a bio-weapon? Possibly….but we cannot close our eyes to the fact that blaming China was Trump deflecting away from himself. He also blamed the WHO. As Frank said – Trump the Liar.”

Yahtzee! Right on.

Ultimately, virus always start somewhere; I believe the reason there is a tendency for so many to originate in China is probably do to the extraordinarily dense population. I cannot imagine the Chinese military being so stupid to start a virus that would hurt China, strain the Chinese hospital and medical systems and go on to harm so many other customers of Chinese goods all over the world. Plenty of Chinese people suffered and died from Covid as well. It is a global pandemic and we need to be globally-conscious about this.

Color me naive, but I do not believe that Covid was part of any intentionally-hatched bio-warfare.

There are much more effective and deadlier substances to use like Ricin or Sarin which would quickly depotentiate and weaken beyond the targeted area. Ergo, it would not spread like a virus.

Eliseo, Bob – helpful research! Thank you.

Sharon,
Thank You for reminding me of your Mars/Venus position, and that Sunstars Sun conjuncts my Moon. You are obviously correct. The April 12 Jupiter/Neptune conjunction is bound to affect us more directly than others.

Will,
Glad to be of help. Facts are facts, and fools are fools, and neither usually changes much.

I largely agree with your assessment regarding China and the Covid virus, but with these caveats.

Firstly, I think it quite possible Chinese scientists were studying the virus and accidentally released it. Their protocols encourage dishonesty. The party sets dogmatic expectations, related more to ideology than reason or science, in a culture in which it is profoundly difficult and shameful to admit failure.

Secondly, although I think it doubtful that anyone in the CCP ordered the development or weaponization of the virus, I don’t totally dismiss the idea. The CCP has a history of enacting some extraordinarily and insanely stupid policies that resulted in deaths in the millions of their own people. CCP leaders are masters of mismanagement and man-made disasters.

Best example out of many:
The “Great Leap Forward,” 1958-1962, resulted in what is regarded as the deadliest famine in human history, with somewhere between 15 & 55 million deaths from starvation.

Who was the great genius who thought up such an insane policy? None other than Mao himself. But as criticism of the man, is not allowed, his mythologization grows. And so it often is in their system.

You are of course right about population density being a factor. 94% of their people live in the eastern third of the country. It is simply not healthy to put that many people there, per square mile. Most are clustered along their coasts.

That population geography will hurt them irrevocably as climate change progresses. The topography, altitude, and latitude makes the area particularly vulnerable. Whether it is sea level rise, typhoons, excessive heat and humidity, the enormous amount of water, soil, and air pollution, or other factors, the area will eventually become unlivable.

The survivors will have to move elsewhere. As the permafrost melts in Siberia, I expect that will be their most logical destination. (Many Chinese are already farming there.) Going south would be suicidal. 22nd century maps will look very different from what we have today.

Hi, would anyone here interested in being doing an astrological reading for me for this year and what I can expect, of course I would pay for it, just wondering if anyone here might want to ?

If so, feel free to text me at (407) 450-0961 if you don’t want to answer here, is this ok for me to ask, don’t want to get in trouble lol!

this is a bit worrying regarding russia vs norway, sweden areas https://star4cast.com/norway-sweden-catching-an-icy-wind-from-russia/

kiwi,

Putin remains a scourge upon the face of the Earth. He’s never recovered from Pope John Paul II’s and Lech Wa??sa’s Solidari brilliant take down of the
The Evil Empire. A little man with a mean streak of insecurity and violence, his sociopathic and narcissistic character are fueling his grandiose notions of restoring the Soviet Union to its dark and Godless glory. I believe both he and 45 are both on a crash and burn trajectory. Monsters, both of them.
May they be crushed and returned to the dust they are.

Diana,

Nancy, our site administrator, also does charts and chart readings. I don’t know who else that participates here does them.

Kiwi,
Irony upon irony!
Ten former Warsaw pact nations and four Yugoslav bloc nations joined NATO soon after the cold war ended. As of now, formerly neutral countries, Finland and Sweden are now interested in admission to NATO.

Why? Obviously, fear of the Big Red Belligerent Bear! Why was/is Big Bear belligerent? Because they themselves were/are very fearful of their neighbors. Predators projecting predatory motives upon everyone else. Throughout their history they’ve been taken advantage of through invasion of their geographically indefensible borders.

“You are a danger to me, therefore I have to be even more dangerous to you.”
= Escalation ad absurdum.

Russia is now involved in paranoid self-fulfilling prophecy. Their past history is blinding them to greater possibilities. Were they to fully embrace democracy, and cultivate and encourage other nations to operate democratically, the indefensiblity of their borders would become irrelevant.

Democracies tend to be far less militarily aggressive or predatory with one another. Their predatory propensities usually shift to the economic sphere. Borders then become much less of a concern.

But, I’m betting you alteady know all this. And Mr. Putin’s dreams of Soviet empire restoration haunt the collective psyche.

Guess I could google it, Eliseo ….If it’s there to be had – the percentage of Russians that want democracy.

Frequently I think of Alexei Novalny. He IS my hero.

Happy to know that Finland and Sweden are interested in joining NATO. Yes, how ironic. I have heard in the last couple months that if Putin invaded Ukraine it would be a big mistake. On his part. And instinctively I believed it. Sooo…..:) Look what’s happening!

I do not confuse Putin with the Russian people. I do not know the particulars but Russia is a beautiful land with hard working people, people who deserve a democracy.

Sunstars,
Both the Russians and Chinese have some extremely serious problems they really would rather the world not be aware of. In both cases, their population is diminishing with multiple major demographic imbalances, and exasperating financial difficulties. It would be a very long list. Too many profound problems to delineate here, but suffice it to say, both nations are in an increasingly desperate spiral downwards.

Like Japan in 1941, which was also in desperate circumstances, that makes them more, not less dangerous, i.e. more prone to take really stupid risks.

In think as you suggested, we would all agree the people of both nations deserve democracy and human rights, but again in both cases their populations are consistently misinformed, bombarded every day with lies and propaganda. In the US, most of the disinformation we receive comes from the far right, but in their case, obviously from their governments.

I believe the odds are high and rising Russia will invade Ukraine. Presuming they do, they will prevail initially, but in the long run it will be a colossal disaster, which might possibly lead them into another revolution. As brutal as they are quite willing to be, the Russian government does not have the resources they once possessed to fully suppress a nation wide uprising. Any domestic political conflict like that could well last a very long time.

As mentioned in a previous entry; Mercury stationing direct at 24 Capricorn on Feb 3rd right on Russia’s natal Saturn (24 Cap) could signify in some way a turning point in Russia’s military threat against Ukraine. We anticipate this activity to ratchet up into actual hostilities when Mercury conjoins Pluto at 27 Capricorn on Feb 11th. The following articles seem to confirm that timeline….

Belarus Announces Joint Drills With Russia in February

Moscow Times
January 18, 2022

Belarus’ defense ministry said Tuesday the exercises will be carried out in two phases, with the first combat readiness stage scheduled to end on Feb. 9 and the drills themselves set for Feb. 10-20.

Belarus’ strongman leader announced that his country and its close ally Russia will stage joint military exercises near NATO’s eastern borders and Ukraine in February, media reported Monday.

President Alexander Lukashenko and his top brass disclosed details of the so-called “Allied Resolve” drills amid high tensions over Russia’s troop buildup near the border with Ukraine.

Continued……

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/01/17/belarus-announces-joint-drills-with-russia-in-february-a76065

Nuclear Weapons In Belarus? US Frets Russia’s Troop Arrival ‘Not Normal’

NDTV
January 19, 2022

The United States is worried that the arrival of Russian troops in Belarus for exercises could lead to a permanent presence that might introduce nuclear weapons into the country, a senior State Department official told reporters Tuesday.

Russian military forces were moving into Belarus after Moscow-allied strongman Alexander Lukashenko announced Monday that the two countries will conduct military exercises next month.

The move, which came without the advance notice customarily provided to countries in the region, added to rising tensions with the West over the possible Russian invasion of Ukraine, which borders Belarus.

The US official, speaking on grounds of anonymity, said the size of the Russian force arriving in Belarus was “beyond what we’d expect of a normal exercise.”

“The timing is notable and, of course, raises concerns that Russia could intend to station troops in Belarus under the guise of joint military exercises in order potentially to attack Ukraine,” the official said.

The official said that changes to the Belarus constitution in a referendum next month could allow the Russian military presence to become permanent.

“These draft constitutional changes may indicate Belarus plans to allow both Russian conventional and nuclear forces to be stationed on its territory,” the official said.

That would represent a “challenge to European security that may require a response,” the official said.

Continued…….

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/nuclear-weapons-in-belarus-us-frets-russias-troop-arrival-not-normal-2716144?fbclid=IwAR1JsAey7cIuGogvGnabb4Jd8DgvklTFAMZk9x-BPBo6j0BY8IAMLM9An34

Jerry,
Many Thanks for the astrodates, and the links! All, quite useful!

BuckeyeShadow, et. al.
This is interesting.

Has the Progressive backlash to recent right wing R insanity commenced?

Here in WA state, our Senate State Government & Elections Committee has been hearing public testimony on Senate Bill 5584, which would implement ranked choice voting in elections.

https://www.thejoltnews.com/stories/day-8,4799

Reports are Utah is already experimenting with ranked choice voting! Anyone hear living in Utah? Anyone know more about this?

Test

https://www.starsoverwashington.com/

Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw fake electors plot in 7 states

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/politics/trump-campaign-officials-rudy-giuliani-fake-electors/index.html

Apparently, the probability Mr. Giuliani might serve some jail time is increasing. I don’t see how orchestrating such an effort would not violate a number of federal and state crimes. I nevertheless wonder about the man’s sanity, sometimes thinking, were he convicted, it might be more appropriate were he to be incarcerated in a mental health facility.

The fake electors in New Mexico and Pennsylvania, put in language at the end of their documents describing themselves as “electors-in-waiting,” presuming a court action rejected the Biden electors. That might keep THEM out of jail, but the fake electors from the other five states are evidently in serious legal jeopardy pending further investigation.

This story, pretty obviously is getting more and more interesting as it leads deeper down the crackpot criminal abyss the R party has become. To my mind, it symbolizes the exhaustion and ultimate weakness of R. Conservative ideology. It reeks of desperation. It’s what one might do knowing your ideas are not and cannot ever again be persuasive to the majority of voters.

I suspect those in future we will regard as “conservatives” will be what we think of today as moderate democrats. That may take a decade or two, but would put us in a tighter political harmony with the other Anglophone nations, and European parliaments.

The Jan. 6th Committee public revelation hearings are shaping up to be darkly entertaining. I’m hoping they sour the public on the R party as least as much as did the Watergate hearings. The difference this time is almost the entire R party is guilty of malfeasance, whereas with Watergate, most of the R’s were not involved.

The effect of Watergate was apparent in R losses in the elections of 1974 and 1976. Let us hope the same occurs on election day, 2022.

From November 7th through the 8th, 2022 there will be a total lunar eclipse. Mars and Jupiter will be retrograde, as will be Pluto. Neptune will still be opposite Neptune, and Pluto will still be opposing our Mercury. I interpret the latter as the continuation of muddled thought processes. But at least, Neptune will be in Pisces. Maybe voters will feel compassionate?

Transiting Jupiter trining President Biden’s natal Sun, Venus, and Jupiter on election night is an excellent aspect for him on that day.

https://imgur.com/z5HicQK

Thank you, Bob!

RCV is coming, Eliseo. It has been a long time coming. And it will come if for no other reason than the fact that the status quo can simply no longer hold.

I truly think more and more people are finally starting to awaken to the nature of the false dichotomy that has been perpetuated by both major parties here in the US, as well as the by corporate media which seems to depend on itself and the people not grasping that such a system ill-serves an increasingly pluralistic and complex society.

Put another way, it’s like someone who insists on imposing the very simple rules of checkers into a 3D multi-level board game of chess.

I believe, as I know you do as well, that Andrew Yang is onto something. Let’s keep our eyes on him as well as the FairVote organization, who have both come out strongly in support of RCV as well as multi-member legislative districts. Both would represent huge steps forward towards democracy, but they each also represent dire threats to the current status quo that benefits corporate moguls and the narcissistic puppets they pull the strings of, folks like Manchin and Sinema.

All the same, I believe we will see legit reforms come by way of an inter-party coalition of Moderate-ish reformers who recognize that feeding the radical and reactionary extremes is ultimately detrimental and destructive to the whole. They do get to have a representative voice too, however. Just not the sole one, as the current far-right reactionary tilt of our system has served to promote.

Diana,

Re The Stars Over Washington URL link/ article

For the record, Jude Cowell’s info is correct on the whole but there is a major miscalculation on the April 1, 2022 New Moon. She places it at 12 ’07 Pisces (the degree of the March 2nd New Moon instead of the correct degree of 11 ’30 Aries). Ordinarily this wouldn’t matter very much, just a simple typo. But as written earlier, the March 2nd New Moon is worth noting. It is fairly explosive because of its conjunction to tr. Jupiter in semi-square to the triple conjunction of Pluto/Mars/Venus with Saturn/Mercury and the US progressed Moon at the midpoint. The US Pluto return is heavily involved here. Expect major events to be occurring at this time. More on this later.

I absolutely love this gal!
Such an impressive intellect, passion,and communication skills! I can easily see her as a possible new FDR.

Rep. Katie Porter And Her White Board Explain Strength Of Biden Economy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYQ5vjKlB1A

Yep. She’s quite the Capricorn. I remember her Sun Sign from when she first emerged. Student of Elizabeth Warren of course.

Wouldn’t you know she’s a Capricorn.

The Astrology Of 2022 – There Is Magic Everywhere by Astro-butterfly

2022 promises fairytale-like developments and unexpected twists and turns that will help us connect with our life purpose.

If we want to understand the core themes of a year, we look at the most important planetary aspects of that particular year.

2020 was shaped by the Saturn-Pluto conjunction in Capricorn.2021 was shaped by the Saturn-Uranus square. Saturn conjunct Pluto and Saturn square Uranus were both heavy and difficult aspects, and we all know how 2020 and 2021 have been for the collective.

2022 is nothing like that.

Yes, we still have the Saturn-Uranus square lingering in the background, but the major aspects are very positive and uplifting. The 2 major aspects in 2022 are Jupiter conjunct Neptune in Pisces and North Node conjunct Uranus in Taurus.

……………..March 2022 – When The Stars Align

In March 2022 we have several astrological line-ups that are pretty special:

On March 2nd, 2022 we have a special New Moon in Pisces which is conjunct both her rulers, Jupiter and Neptune. At the same time, Mars, Venus and Pluto all align at 27 Capricorn, and Mercury and Saturn align at 19 Aquarius.

Basically all planets, except for Uranus, are engaged in a conjunction. This is rather unusual and it will bring a lot of forward momentum. Here we can expect a lot of new beginnings on multiple levels in our lives at a personal as well as at a collective level.

On March 6th, 2022 Venus and Mars meet at 0 Aquarius – the same degree we had the epochal Jupiter-Saturn conjunction on December 21st.

If Jupiter and Saturn spoke for collective developments that impacted us on a collective level, the Venus-Mars conjunction in Aquarius is about how we, as individuals, get to shape the collective. Power to the people!

Continued……..

https://astrobutterfly.com/2021/12/29/the-astrology-of-2022-there-is-magic-everywhere/

As mentioned above, the March 6th Venus/Mars conjunction at 0 Aquarius will be activating the Jupiter/Saturn conjunction of December 21, 2020.

Here are two articles on the special significance of the Dec 2020 conjunction……….

THE 2020 GREAT CONJUNCTION: JUPITER CONJUNCT SATURN IN AQUARIUS

Known as “the great conjunction,” the cyclical conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn that occurs every twenty years has been the preeminent method of demarcating historical eras in traditional astrology. When Jupiter and Saturn come together there is both the intensity of old forms dying as well as the fertility of new growth beginning to take shape. In the past century, their cycle has aligned with the transition in between decades, with the conjunctions and oppositions between Jupiter and Saturn marking the start of each decade. For example, there was a Jupiter and Saturn conjunction in 1980, an opposition in 1990, a conjunction in 2000, and an opposition in 2010. Jupiter and Saturn form their next conjunction on December 21 of 2020 in the first degree of Aquarius, and so most of 2020 took place during the end of their cycle. There has been an atmosphere of anticipation building during the year of being on the precipice of a new era, while simultaneously old issues have resurfaced in need of resolution.

Together Jupiter and Saturn combine expansive and imaginative vision with the structure and discipline needed to both manifest results as well as strip away the inessential. While Jupiter signifies generosity and fortunate opportunities, it can also lead to egoic greed and delusions of grandeur that requires the contemplative focus of Saturn to trim the excess and strengthen what is ready to ripen. At the same time, we need the inspirational revitalization of Jupiter to mediate the negative side of Saturn that can bring fear over limitations and obstacles and lead to depressive stagnation. During 2020, we have been dancing in a constant balancing act of tempering between Jupiter and Saturn, with a need to shift in between the synthesizing growth of Jupiter and the methodical reordering of Saturn.

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https://www.astrology.com/article/great-conjunction-saturn-conjunct-jupiter-in-aquarius-2020/

What Is A Great Conjunction And How Does It Work?

In astrology, a conjunction is formed when two or more planets line up exactly. When they line up, their vibrations blend and work together. A Great Conjunction happens when Jupiter and Saturn align. Both planets are associated with authority, but each very differently.

Jupiter is a generous leader who’s associated with health, wealth, and having a good time, while Saturn favors strict responsibility and setting limits. When they have to collaborate, you can expect power struggles over the best way to “rule.” On the macro level, it’s likely to bring about a cultural moment when things change irrevocably, whether we’re ready or not. Politics shift toward the progressive and away from calcified ideas that have outlived their usefulness. It’s a changing of the guard, so to speak.

It’s no surprise then that Great Conjunctions tend to correspond roughly to American election years, which always signal change on both a national and a global scale. With Joe Biden and Kamala Harris’s recent victory and forthcoming inauguration as President and Vice President, we can already see how this planetary alignment is lining up with current events. Looking internationally, with Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s departure from their royal status, we can only imagine what new changes the Great Conjunction might have in store for them.

What makes this Great Conjunction different?

This conjunction is special because it’s in Aquarius, the sign of social change, humanitarian efforts, and justice for all. We had a preview of Saturn in Aquarius this year (2020) when it traveled through the sign from March 21 and July 1, before retrograding back into Capricorn in the summer. During that period, a global outpouring of support for the Black Lives Matter movement following the murder of George Floyd opened people’s eyes both to the intransigent disparities that exist within our culture, and to our personal responsibility to help where we can, in whatever way we can, whether by protesting, donating money to Black-led organizations, or doing whatever we can to heal ourselves and our communities from a history of trauma. In the same way, the movement is poised to gain even more momentum under the Great Conjunction in Aquarius.

Aquarius is also associated with LGBTQIA+ people, thanks to the open-hearted and open-minded nature of this sign, which is a good thing for LGBTQIA+ rights the world over. Astrologers are hopeful that this will be the start of a new era where people of all sexualities and gender identities will be able to express themselves and love who they love without judgment or criticism.

The Great Conjunction is also happening at 0 degrees, which signifies a completely new beginning. This means that as a society, we get to start from scratch and rethink our approach to freedom, equality, and what it means to care for the common good.

Even better, it’s happening on the winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere. Witches believe that the solstices are turning points in the natural cycle of the year and are great times for doing magic. With the Great Conjunction and winter solstice in sync, the effects of both are amplified, which makes it perfect for doing a ritual, reading tarot cards, or simply writing down what most want to manifest in the coming year.

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https://www.allure.com/story/great-conjunction-saturn-jupiter-2020

Thank you Bob for your post showing the very positive 2022 election night transits to Biden’s chart. Does anyone have the election night transits to Nancy Pelosi’s, Kevin McCarthy’s, Chuck Scumer’s, and Mitch McConnell’s charts? That might reveal a lot about how the election turns out.

Excellent and absorbing analysis on the February 1st, 2022 New Moon

Aquarius New Moon – Crystallizing New Intentions and Fated Developments by Molly McCord

Video: 18 min 8 sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqmc-5qcFbo

My progressed anlunar chart for president Biden for 9 pm, EST, in Washington on election night has its Jupiter on the MC and his secondary progressed natal Jupiter on its ASC; agreeing with the transit of Jupiter to his natal points.

https://i.imgur.com/rmxroDC.gif

Trump’s Biggest Failure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhMAt3BluAU

This is a remarkably well done video lasting one hour & ten minutes. It is important to play it unto the end. Just when you think it has ended, it hasn’t. There is another chapter or postscript. It explains the history, the how and why we got to where we are economically and politically, and how we might overcome the mess we are in.

Especially interesting was the campaign to isolate and subdue India, Australia, New Zealand, and Europe.

It is based on two very enlightening and frightening books.
The Perfect Dictatorship: China in the 21st Century
by Norwegian sociologist Stein Ringen, who teaches at Oxford.
&
The China Dream: Great Power Thinking and Strategic Posture in the Post-American Era
by Liu Mingfu, a General in the PLA and a CCP member. His book describes why from their point of view, democracy failed and how China can come to ruthlessly dominate the entire world.

a quote near the end
“Historians looking back at this will determine that it was this presidency which gave the Chinese enough power to kick it off. Trump is China’s president of the United States.”

“Dealing with what will be the most important challenge of our time will require more strategic and sound minds than Trump, but also a rethinking of the fundamentals of western democratic foreign policy. The old cold war assumption that capitalism will bring liberty and democracy died on Tiananmen Square and the ruins of the deregulated free market that Bush created in Iraq.”

“For authoritarian states CAN have free markets. Tyrants can (and do) prosper on capitalism. Market forces CAN be used to further spread tyranny. Liberty is not inherently tied to commerce. And the new foreign policy to promote liberty and Democracy above all is needed, as is a reassertion of what the values of a truly free society really are. What makes one free isn’t necessarily what makes one wealthy.”

I pray not just the US, but the entire world changes direction when Pluto moves into Aquarius. Let Freedom Ring!

Headlines today on CNN.com

Stock sell-off intensifies

Wall Street is deep in the red. The Dow fell 1,000 points, and the S&P is down 10% from its most recent peak.

Biden administration identifying troops for possible deployment to Eastern Europe amid Russia tensions

Families of Embassy Staff evacuate Ukraine

Taiwan reports new massive Chinese air force incursion

The above will cause the stock market to drop further.

Hang on folks! I vaguely remember the posts and predictions here for Feb & Mar. It’s starting to look a bit wild.

And this:

NATO outlines ‘deterrence’ plan as tensions with Russia soar

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-tensions-live-updates-1c3eee4895926233aa85ad52ef09d102

and this,

Taiwan reports new massive Chinese air force incursion

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-sends-39-warplanes-taiwan-largest-year-82432872

BUT, on the Positive side, there is this:

Supreme Court throws out Kevin McCarthy’s lawsuit against Nancy Pelosi over Covid-19 voting rules
https://www.rawstory.com/kevin-mccarthy-proxy-voting-lawsuit/

and this,

Palin COVID-19 tests delay libel trial against NY Times

(She tested positive; couldn’t happen to a better person; as I remember, she has a stellum in Aquarius and we are going into the Aquarius season, along with Saturn.)

https://apnews.com/article/sarah-palin-defamation-lawsuit-nyt-1e16233f7aa18f914f10a6def4a928c3

– meaning, that is why she’s in the news.

good longview perspective Eliseo. Thanks for the link!

Kiwi,
My pleasure to share and serve.
Did you view the entire video?

Eliseo, yes. Pretty much fits with my existing historical understanding, but was unaware of the more modern extent of influence. Sadly most of the one liner gottcha pundits and their flock are blissfully simplistic and ignorant. My grandfather, a history teacher, many years dead now, foresaw.

I came across this BBC story yesterday. This evening Rachel reported on it as well.

Ireland tells Russia live-fire naval exercise is ‘not welcome’
The Irish government is very upset the Russians will be conducting naval exercises with live ammunition off their southwestern coast. They will be “far from any of Russia’s permanent naval bases,” and “near several critical translantic data cables.” Experts are wary of what the Russians might be up to.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60113233

Simultaneously, the Chinese and Russians will soon conduct joint naval exercises in the Baltic Sea. According to certain experts on Morning Joe MSNBC a month ago, Chinese and Russian leaders are also discussing how to hurt the US financially and economically as a whole. Mr. Putin has been quoted as saying he wants the American people to suffer like the Russians did in the aftermath of the USSR collapse.

Is it any wonder the Europeans have their defense forces on alert? They are quickly increasing military spending and requesting more to colunteer for military service. (I believe I read the Danish government just voted to increase their military budget by 46%.) Canadian and Danish NATO troops are practicing maneuvers and increasing their numbers in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. Formerly (and perpetually) strategically neutral Sweden and Finland are now seriously considering NATO membership.

Eliseo,

I’m currently watching “Munich – The Edge of War” over at Netflix. It is a riveting, well done drama strangely similar to and evoking images of the looming dangers we are presently facing with Russia’s military threat to Ukraine, Europe and the world at large.

Here is a synopsis of the film:

Based on the international bestseller by Robert Harris. It is Autumn 1938 and Europe stands on the brink of war. Adolf Hitler is preparing to invade Czechoslovakia and Neville Chamberlain’s government desperately seeks a peaceful solution. With the pressure building, Hugh Legat, British civil servant, and Paul von Hartmann, German diplomat, travel to Munich for the emergency Conference. As negotiations begin, the two old friends find themselves at the center of a web of political subterfuge and very real danger. With the whole world watching, can war be averted and, if so, at what cost?

Here is the trailer

Munich – The Danger of War

Video: 2 min 37 sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ7x8odi-OU

Jerry,
Thanks for the link. The preview reveals an interesting premise, that the document sought became a guide to the post-Chamberlain UK government. I don’t know if that is historical fact, or merely an entertaining plot device. In any case, it appears to be a well done film.

I do not have a NetFlix account, nor a television, but I do occasionally watch films on a computer screen at the Amazon site.

In recent days I’ve often thought of the Winston Churchill quote: “You do not negotiate with the tiger when your head is in its mouth!”

On our world stage today there are tigers about who seek to consume other nations in autocratic carnivorous frenzy. Too late it appears, many only recently have come to see their stripes as they truly are.

Although there are differences, the domestic and international emotional environment parallels well with the days before the Japanese invasion of China, 7 July 1937, the Anschluss of 1938, or the invasion of Poland, 1 September 1939. Such vibes and perceptions raise the hair on the back of the neck.

Simultaneously, here in the US, echoes of the late 1850’s resound in increasing decibels, with all the madness such thunder brings.

We have lived through unprecedented material well being, through technological and musical renaissance. Yet so many in private,with our oft unacknowledged alienation, the feelings and broken aspirations we submerse in our addictions.

It would be easy to pray this cup pass from us, be taken away. But perhaps this bitter wine is what we need to restore our metaphysical flesh. Perhaps, (I speculate) until then we are but ghosts of who and what we might truly need to be. Such might be the lessons Pluto asks us to relearn.

And speaking of tigers who’s fascist stripes are now revealed:
Newt Gingrich Says Republicans will Jail Jan. 6 Panel Members if Republicans Take Power at Midterms

In this nine minute video Glenn Kirschner comments upon and explains the implications of NG’s declaration and how Congress should react.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyrFmLHLj8c

Eliseo,

How accurate is the film to actual events? From what I have gathered reading up on the background of the making of the film, the two main characters are fictional. Additionally, there is no clear evidence of an existing memo/document pointing to Hitlers territorial ambitions and intent, but the political figures and events surrounding the Munich conference of 1938 appear to faithfully adhere to historical events. Here’s one review that explores the various elements to the film……

The Real WW2 History of Netflix’s Munich: The Edge of War

We examine some of the real history behind the run-up to World War II and how it inspired Munich: The Edge of War.

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/real-ww2-history-of-netflix-munich-the-edge-of-war/

If any of you are interested in archetypal astrology check this out; if you go to video extras you can see trailers on the episodes.

https://changingofthegods.com/

Frank,
Thank You for the link!
I’m very much into archetypal astrology, have been for years. Are the episodes free, or is there a cost? I’m having to budget very carefully these days, essentially out of work until this pandemic passes us by.

Whatever the next few years bring, I say again, I don’t see the right wing extremism holding up indefinitely. It may very well be that it serves as a stimulus for a proper, forward-oriented revolution, much as you have alluded to, Eliseo.

I truly believe a lot of the current crop of Conservative structural and reactionary extremism loses steam and dies back considerably once Pluto leaves Capricorn for good at the end of 2024. The impetus then moves to the Aquarian forces to do what they do. It may be for good or for ill, but it’s a lot less likely to look like book-burning, pining for yesteryear, and no-nothingism moving forward. More likely the exact opposite with the trine from Uranus in Gemini thrown in—an embrace of new learning, thinking, and new ideas, rather than an irrational, infantile clinging to old things in fear of change and the unknown.

Eliseo, I don’t know. I signed up with just my email address to get info on its release scheduled for 2/2/22. As I learn more I will keep the community updated. In the meantime you may enjoy checking out the website and exploring the topics under Episodes and the trailers under Video Extras. I too am a fan of archetypal astrology.

Frank,
I’m sure you know that date coincides with the first time our Pluto return is direct this year.

Bob, since I don’t understand all the astrology terms, 🙂 is this a good thing for Biden? And I think it was Steve Judd that said November 8, 2022 is a hell of a day for the election! What about that day generally and then it’s influence on Biden?

I was wondering if Bob, Andre, or anyone else can weigh in on the astrological aspects of this potential war with Ukraine. I just read that Putin has his naval ships near the global underground cables that power our global economy. I think he is pushing a lot of levers in what is increasingly looking like a global conflict.

silcominc,

“I just read that Putin has his naval ships near the global underground cables that power our global economy. I think he is pushing a lot of levers in what is increasingly looking like a global conflict.”

If this is true, it makes us and all of Europe look really stupid to not have anticipated such a strategy. He truly is a Nogoodnik.

Hello, everyone! And a very, very belated Happy New Year… tho, we’ll let that one play out, I guess… gryn.

As Eliseo might have told you, might health took a downturn a few months ago. I’m fighting back, but still pretty weak and not up to par. Got snoopbots (aka insurance/health nurses) on par to “check up” on us old timers around our birthdays in a couple of weeks. New meds have helped, tho they do leave me a bit loopy and brain foggy!

Daughter and family have moved to the same city, and I’m so glad. But they’ve had their share. Two weeks ago, sitting at a red light, some guy rear-ended her and totaled her car. They were all buckled up and are okay, and got $20k, but still are out about $10k for a new car. She’s still waiting on a background check for a position on the Fort, so she’s taken a job with the State for now. Just after that, one of her kids came down with Covid and it has hit him hard. As of today, it looks like it’s going to run thru the whole family and, as close as we’ve been, David and I are isolating, just in case.

My sister caught Covid and it laid her low for two weeks extremely hard. It’s all Omicron. Everyone was vaxxed and boosted, but they all got it from the schools. Sis has stage 2 kidney disease and is very obese, so my worry for her hit highest levels. When I talked to her today and heard the lilt in her cussing at “damned republicans” I broke down in tears I was so relieved. She’d made it thru.

So, regardless of what’s going on in the wider world or even here in America, my own little microcosm seems to have enough drama to keep me occupied (LOL). I guess it’s going to be one of those years. I turn 66 on Feb 4; David on Feb 3. I would like to think maybe the stars would grace us with a little personal peace, but I’m sure as hell not counting on it! (ROTFLMAO)

Biggest Accomplishment: Escorted my oldest cat to the ripe old age of 24, and she’s still going strong with a voice that shakes the timbers!!!!

BTW… Eliseo… we also sold the 9th st house. 4k loss, not much and it’s a big worry off our shoulders, so it’s all good.

Missed you guys; I’ll try to be back on more regularly, for whatever I offered. You guys are just too accomplished!!!!

Hi silcominc,

To re-cap what was said earlier……..

Astrologically, I think there are remarkable similarities with the Feb 27th 2014 Russian incursion into Crimea to that of present circumstances. The 2/27/2014 Russian incursion into Crimea transpired with tr. Venus (24 Capricorn) right on Russia’s natal Saturn (DOB June 12, 1990 1:45 pm Moscow) in near conjunction to tr. Mars (27 Capricorn).

I suspect events on the Ukraine eastern border could begin to materialize on or about February 3rd with Mercury stationing direct at 24 Capricorn (cyber attacks?) and possibly developing from there (actual hostilities) at the time of the Mercury/Pluto conjunction (27 Capricorn) on February 11th. President Putin will be attending the opening of the winter olympics in Beijing on February 3rd which precludes any invasion before then.

The following article seems to confirm that timeline….

Belarus Announces Joint Drills With Russia in February

Moscow Times
January 18, 2022

Belarus’ defense ministry said Tuesday the exercises will be carried out in two phases, with the first combat readiness stage scheduled to end on Feb. 9 and the drills themselves set for Feb. 10-20.

Belarus’ strongman leader announced that his country and its close ally Russia will stage joint military exercises near NATO’s eastern borders and Ukraine in February, media reported Monday.

President Alexander Lukashenko and his top brass disclosed details of the so-called “Allied Resolve” drills amid high tensions over Russia’s troop buildup near the border with Ukraine.

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https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/01/17/belarus-announces-joint-drills-with-russia-in-february-a76065

Andre Kahr has begun a series on our Pluto return. Part one is at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY5H1ZRPqbk

Silcominc & Will,
The cables you referenced are the transatlantic cables SW of Ireland. They don’t power our economy, bur are certainly very important.

Russian naval vessels with special diving bells have been hovering over the area where the cables main connections are located. Some speculate Russian Navy Frogmen will cut those cables, but it may be they want to “tap” them for whatever communication they might glean between Canada/USA & UK/Europe.

In either case, it shows how serious Mr. Nogoodnik Putin really is about reacquiring Ukraine and reestablishing for Russia the glory and power of the old USSR. The Russians sincerely believe they must have Ukraine to survive. They see it literally as a life or death issue.

I believe what is beginning to manifest will have a long lasting but similar tension and resonance with the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. But that’s more likely to spark a new and very bitter cold war between us and them than an actual hot war, (at least for now.)

In the long run, the probability is high Putin’s soldiers will either invade, OR give support to a coup in the two easternmost provinces of Ukraine where most all of the population use Russian as their first language. Those provinces would formally break away to form their “own country.”

The sanctions we threaten are irrelevant compared to what they perceive as survival. If they do not invade soon, they will do it later. When they do, there will be little we can do about it we’ve not already done. Ukraine is NOT a NATO member, but we’ve supplied them recently with much advanced equipment and training; that’s the one caveat which may give Mr. Putin pause.

Why? In 2014 the Russians could have taken the entirety of Ukraine by force with not too much trouble. 2022 is a different story. They can’t do it now without heavy casualties.

Current Russian demographic trends are in a word, catastrophic. Their population as a whole is diminishing, while the percentage of retired elders is increasing. Most of their science, engineering and technical schools were closed down when the Soviet Union fell. They do not have enough trained young adults in those fields. Heavy casualties among their younger population will worsen their situation and will not endear the Putin government with the Russian people.

Meanwhile Russia and China are planning joint naval exercises in the Baltic Sea. Hunh! What !?!? That’s no where near China!

Despite what they would have us believe, the Chinese navy is barely capable of venturing into the “first island chain.” Their ships mostly hug their eastern coastline. If they travel beyond about 600 miles from their coast, they are in trouble. The plan nevertheless shows the Russians and Chinese are likely in cahoots to obtain their respective objectives.

Why NOW? … OR why relatively soon while we are experiencing our Pluto return? They choose these moves now because they mistakenly believe our US government is about to collapse. It is true we may well soon experience more and serious insurrectional violence and chaos. If and when Trump, many prominent R’s and R. Congresspersons are indicted, convicted, jailed, etc., I think it probable hard core Trumpists will rebel.

Our sociopolitical and ideological/emotional divisions are now so sufficiently severe, out of true necessity our present focus is lasered upon ourselves rather than the world at large. As for that world, when the policeman is not on the block, the criminals will do what criminals do.

IMHO, the Russians are planning a major cyber attack on the US as a prelude to their effort to reacquire Ukraine, and the rest of their “back yard.” That may be soon, or perhaps may never occur. But I think it logical and likely, and they have thoroughly gamed it out.

We civilians may be unprepared, but our military has gamed out various responses a number of times. Our best cyberwar experts and counter cyberwarriors are well entrenched all over, but especially in the San Antonio, TX area.

For the foreseeable future I’m keeping my car gassed up, and as best I can with inadequate funds I’m maintaining the food, water and supplies I might need to weather a long hurricane. Just In Case. It certainly feels as though a great storm is coming.

TEST

By: Bob on January 21st, 2022
at 9:14 pm

Transiting Jupiter trining President Biden’s natal Sun, Venus, and Jupiter on election night is an excellent aspect for him on that day.

https://imgur.com/z5HicQ

Link above is a typo. Here is corrected link.

https://imgur.com/z5HicQK

As this is a current, ongoing, situation I looked for soon to come aspects in Putin’s chart (my speculative).

February 7 looks difficult for him. There is no telling if it is related to the situation regarding Ukraine.

Bob: There is an alternate birth year for Putin. It comes from a story that seems credible…. His birth mother having been Vera Putina….

This story has Vladimir Putin’s year of birth as 1950. This story alleges that although his birthday is
October 7, the year of his official birth is 1952 as opposed to Vera saying she gave birth to him in 1950.

So….. In looking at the 1950 year, he would have Pluto conjunct Moon in Leo. Fixed sign…. would explain his love of pageantry with him as the star.

Of course in both instances he would have ascendant in Scorpio, which fits perfectly.

There is something to be said about both horoscopes but I would think that the fixed sign of Leo for the Moon might fit better than the flexible, fast on its feet Moon sign in Gemini, in the 1952 chart.

Plus, in 1952, that Moon in Gemini is in the 7th house, denoting someone who likes close personal partnerships with just about everyone.

Putin the very frequent murderer probably does not have Moon in the 7th.

….. so given that, Bob (or anyone) –

What do you think?

Moon conjunct Pluto in Leo… very Scorpio like, with Scorpio on the Ascendant….. Uranus in Cancer square his Libra stellium…Mercury and Saturn in Virgo conjunct his South Node….

And generally an unimpeded rest of his chart to make it easy to do his dastardly deeds over and over again……..

Alexei Novalny poisoned and then imprisoned….. Alexei’s friend Boris Nemtsov, shot in the back the night before protest in Moscow over Putin’s attack on Ukraine as in Crimea…..

Sergei Magnitsky, murdered in prison as the result of the Putin Regime….. and the then resulting Magnitsky Act in the US…

And the countless others murdered or disposessed, or made victims of corruption…….

Putin and his oligarchs, making poor the people of Russia by taking their money and their standard of living…. being multibillionaires at the expense of the good people of Russia….and in this way fostering the rampant corruption in Russia as a way of life…… as a culture….

The gulags……..

I ask you – which horoscope fits best? 1952 or 1950?

Presuming Putin’s DOB is the widely established year and date of October 7th 1952; his chart and the transits on or around the March 2nd New Moon could indicate an arrival at some kind of karmic crossroads when the Saturn/Mercury conjunction (19 Aq) conjoins Putin’s Progressed Mars (18 ’16 Aq) natal North Node (destiny point? at 19 ’59 Aq) in square to natal Jupiter (transition? at 19 ’44 Taurus).

Here are some notes from last month regarding the March 2nd New Moon……

The March 2nd New Moon (12 ’07 Pisces) squares the recent December 4, 2021 solar eclipse (12 ’22 Sag) the location of the US ascendant. It forms an exact semi-square to the triple Venus/Mars/Pluto conjunction (27 Capricorn). There is also a precise Saturn/Mercury conj (19 Aquarius) LOCATED RIGHT AT THE MIDPOINT of this configuration. It’s an extraordinary confluence of aspects that affect not only the US ascendant but the US Pluto return as well. Here’s the March 2nd New Moon chart:

https://cafeastrology.com/events/new-moon-on-march-2-2022/

PS Forgot to mention…… in early March the US Progressed Moon at 19 Aquarius fits in perfectly with this configuration.

I am using May 7, 2000 at 12.05 pm, BAT, in Moscow for the time of Putin’s first inauguration. That should suffice for planetary positions except for the Moon or chart angles. Transit Saturn will square (in longitude) Mercury from that chart on January 27, 2022; the Sun on February 14; and Jupiter on February 19.

It will square that chart’s Saturn on January 31 in right ascension and March 11 or 12 in longitude.
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/48210

“Transcript of the Inauguration of Vladimir Putin as President of Russia
May 7, 2004 01:00 The Kremlin, Moscow”

“The ceremony to inaugurate Vladimir Putin as President of Russia is taking place at the Kremlin in the Grand Kremlin Palace, …”

“This is Vladimir Putin’s second term in office. More than 71 percent of voters who took part in the election gave him their votes on March 14. Under the constitutional law on elections, the elected President takes office four years from the date of the previous President’s inauguration.Vladimir Putin first took the presidential oath on May 7, 2000. Fours years have passed since that date.”

Silcominc & Will,
See my January 28th, 2022 at 7:59 am post.
It arrived a few days after I actually posted it.

Bob,

The Jupiter/Saturn conjunction (22 Taurus) of May 28, 2000 brought about Putin’s ascension to power, the events of 9/11 and its aftermath, the explosive growth of the internet, the increasing influence of the Russian oligarghs and its western counterpart – Trump and associates (corruption at the highest level of government). The vast accumulation of wealth (Taurus) had its drawbacks but significantly also released many positive redeeming factors. Communication and technology is now accessible to the masses as never before.

We are now at the threshold of a new era. The December 21, 2020 Jupiter/Saturn conjunction (0 Aquarius) will most likely bring about the demise of Putin, Trump; the old order of things and in its place a more egalitarian, compassionate society (Aquarius). We will have the opportunity to iron out the disparities and imbalances that ails our society. Although the Jupiter/Saturn conjunction occurred in December 2020, I think the full power of it will be felt when Mars joins Venus right on the 0 Aquarius degree on March 6th.

The following are two articles discussing the attributes of the May 2000 conjunction and the present 2020 conjunction.

The Big One of 2000: Jupiter Conjunct Saturn by Mark Lerner

There has been a lot of speculation and outrageous prediction concerning the alignment of several celestial bodies in Taurus during May. While there is a fairly strong grouping planets in this sign, it’s important to keep in mind that we are in the very last phase of the previous, 20-year Jupiter-Saturn cycle until May 28, 2000. It is normal and natural for there to be upheavals and confusion as we complete a two-decade, major world cycle and initiate a new one.

We can expect turmoil in USA and international financial markets this month because of the emphasis on Taurus and the fact that the New Moon itself, plus Jupiter and Saturn, are re-igniting the powerful Total Solar Eclipse energies from August 11, 1999. At that time, the Sun and Moon met in mid-Leo, Mars in mid-Scorpio opposed Saturn in mid-Taurus, and Uranus in Aquarius completed the Grand Cross in fixed, power signs.

However, to expect cataclysms of “fire and ice,” “the end of the world” and similar nonsense is certainly to go overboard. Back in February 1962, the Sun and Moon and five other celestial bodies aligned in Aquarius at a Total Solar Eclipse. Some astrologers in India predicted the end of the world and we did have the Cuban Missile Crisis in October of that year, but life went on. In retrospect, 1962 may have been a big part of the “birth pains” for the 2,160-year Aquarian Age.

Continued……

http://greatbear.mcn.org/taurus.html

The ‘Great Conjunction’ kicks Off A New Astrological Epoch. So What Now? by Emily Segal

The Guardian
December 21, 2020

The apparent meeting of Jupiter and Saturn in the skies – known as the ‘great conjunction’ – marks the birth of a new astrological epoch

n Monday, Jupiter and Saturn – which are actually more than 400m miles apart – will appear to come together in the night sky, forming what is called a “Great Conjunction”. This is one in a series of meetings the planets make roughly every 20 years, due to Jupiter’s orbit of less than 12 years around the sun lining up with Saturn’s, which is 29.5 years long. On the night of the conjunction, the planets will seem as if they’re separated by about one fifth of the diameter of the typical full moon, appearing to touch or form a single brilliant heavenly body. Besides its visual dazzle, this event has special significance through an astrological lens: it marks the official shift from a 200-year period during which Jupiter and Saturn made conjunctions primarily in Earth signs into a 200-year period of conjunctions in Air signs, marking the advent of a new epoch in a larger 800-year macro-cycle.

Thinkers have used Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions to track history for thousands of years – Johannes Kepler’s early 17th-century trigon diagrams are famous ephemera from the beginning of our current macro-cycle. Jupiter and Saturn are the slowest and furthest away of the planets available to the naked human eye, and function as the short hands of the astrological clock, sketching the broad strokes of an era. In astrological terms, Jupiter signifies expansion, growth, and coherence – but can also lead to cancerous hypertrophy. Saturn represents the opposite principle, of limitation, structure, and containment, often considered the cruel taskmaster of the zodiac. Together they are like life and death, warp and weft, and their conjunctions signal key moments in the formation of collective reality.

Continued……..

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/21/great-conjunction-new-astrological-epoch-emily-segal

The focus in my post was to show upcoming negative aspects that may affect Putin short term. While there is no telling if they will accompany his actions regarding Ukraine the timing suggests that they may. If so, prospects for his actions there do not look positive using his seminal assumption of the Russian presidency chart.

Bob,

Not interested? Sometimes looking at things from an over-all perspective could offer clues, a more comprehensive understanding of what’s going on. Saturn conjunct natal North Node/Progressed Mars square natal Jupiter in early March conveys to me the sense that Putin’s long term, grandiose vision of uniting the former Soviet Union back to its original former “glory”; the Russian version of Make Russia Great Again (Saturn conjunct North Node) may be sorted out on the battlefield (Progressed Mars) and could be the cause of his downfall/ transition (Jupiter).

According to Fortune magazine in a 2017 survey, President Putin was listed as the wealthiest man alive with an estimated net worth of 200 billion dollars. That would make him twice as wealthier than either Jeff Bezos or Bill Gates.

So….. what’s the wealthiest, most powerful man in the world thinking right now?

The REAL Reason Putin is Preparing for War in Ukraine

War is heating up on the border of Ukraine and Russia. To understand what’s going on you have to understand what Vladimir Putin really wants.

Video: 22 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJNtfyq3TDE

Jerry, My husband has seen “Munich – The Edge of War” on Netflix three times now and I finally sat down & watched it from beginning to end. We both agree that it’s excellent and has some very timely messages for today’s world. Parallels between Hitler & Trump are easy to draw (both are immoral scoundrels with mental disorders; in fact, I was told today that Hitler was a meth addict which may explain his wild ranting). Although Chamberlain’s approach to the situation had its merits, one theme that my husband and I agreed with was that holding on to hope is not always a good things, especially when it blinds you to the truth or, worse, makes you complacent and unaware of the urgency of the situation and stops you from doing something about it. For us, that was very relevant to the attitude of many toward climate change.

With all the talk of Pluto’s return on 2/2 or 2/3, it’s got me kinda nervous. Our birthday’s are so close to this, are we gonna get clobbered by it? We’re already changing plans because of expected 12″ of snow, but that’s small beans to us. I’m much more concerned with Pluto’s influence over life/death/underworld and spiritual aspects. We usually celebrate at midnight on 2/3-2/4, because it’s a “time out of time”… neither 2/3 nor yet 2/4, but of both. We’ve got 6 family members with Covid, an 89yo mother, and elderly us. The death/rebirth side feels like it’s licking it’s chops at us. If anyone can ease my anxiety, I’d appreciate it. I am NOT an astrologer to the depth you guys are.

For example, I -thought- when we hit 2024, we were going into the Age of Aquarius. Is this not right? Someone told me elsewhere it’d be another 78 years before that happened, and instead, we’re entering into the Age of Capricorn. I’d really like to set straight on this one! Waited all my life to live in the Age of Aquarius! (LOL)

SlightKC,
Lord love a duck! But Not just one. All of them! I don’t know see how anyone would assert we were going into the age of Capricorn. Maybe they live on a different planet in a different solar system far, far away and long ago. I think maybe that astrologer may have had a few too many drinks at the Mos Eisley Cantina on Tatooine.

No! Although there is disagreement as to when the Aquarian age started, or when it will start, I think most would agree we are in the cusp period between Pisces and Aquarius, and will be for the rest of our lives.

As far as our Pluto return, we are already there. As Pluto moves so slowly, we are within orb and will continue to be through 2022. The direct points in February, July and on Dec. 28 may be less consequential than the three retrogrades, but that’s just my opinion. See Andre Kahr’s video explaining this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY5H1ZRPqbk

In the aftermath of ALL plagues, from the plague of Athens in the 5th century BC to present, the common people fared far better for quite a while than before the plague. There at least two major reasons.
(1) The number of skilled laborers and technicians having been diminished, their labor and skills become that much more valuable to their employers.
(2) Plagues change people’s attitudes in major ways.

The above is consistent with the astrological symbolism. Pluto’s move into Aquarius in late 2024 portends a long progressive period lasting more than 20 years.

Thank you, Eliseo… that’s what I thought. But I didn’t have the necessary facts at fingertips to refute. Used what I knew of energies to refute, and it still turned out to be more progressive Aquarian than Capricorn! If I can find his message, I may post it… really threw me for a loop. But there’s really only one person on that forum I trust, and most of what he posts isn’t spelled out.

Glad to know Pluto doesn’t have it in for me or David, personally. (gryn) Pushed to the edge, I am.

Jerry,
That was a pretty good video about Putin and Ukraine. There were some very important details he left out, but what he included was good. The material from Putin’s April 25, 2005 essay was especially telling, consistent with what we already knew about him and his worldview. The analogy of the abusive boyfriend that can’t let go was also very much on target.

Since the video was released, Russian media has been pushing the narrative that NATO is about to invade Ukraine, a pretty obvious contrived pretext to justify a preemptive military effort to “save” their sacred brothers from the evil West.

The winter Olympics are to begin in Beijing February 4th and end February 20th. My guess is Putin’s soldiers will invade very soon after the games are done and the Russian athletes have arrived home.

I’m now persuaded he is probably thinking it is better to invade in the next 30 days rather than a year or two from now, as (he believes) to do so now would involve fewer Russian casualties than in the future. He believes it has to be done regardless of the consequences, as it is a moral imperative he cannot shirk.

NATO will soon have a rebirth, with Sweden and Finland joining, all members strengthening their resolve, and increasing their financial, materiel, and personnel commitments to the organization. Welcome to the new and rekindled West/Russia cold war during the US Pluto return.

sunstars,

As there is no recorded proof of birth for Putin we are all free to use whatever data we think may be correct for his birth chart.

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Putin,_Vladimir

Read “Source Notes” section on data.

🙂 Sounds good, Eliseo! Sounds about right….Comforting about NATO, and Sweden and Finland….

The Russian people deserve better. Eventually, with democracy all around them, they may heal from their “bad boyfriend” (or bad girlfriend) status and step into the “Age of Aquarius” .

Sunstars,
Mr. Putin, in his head is living in 1950 oldethink. Yes – it was true for over 800 years Russia had to secure their ridiculously bad geographic borders by seizing and controlling the countries to their west and south. But this is 2022. Most of the nations to their west have fallen in love with democracy.

Democracies usually don’t fight or invade one another. They observe the boundaries and prefer to trade and cooperate on projects of mutual interest – Like scientific and medical research, slowing down and properly managing climate change and environmental restoration, and space or deep sea exploration – you know – Aquarian stuff!

The Russians have enormous undeveloped natural resources, but now operate as a single resource petro-state run by mafia style oligarchs. Were they to embrace Scandinavian style social democratic free enterprise, foment democracy generally, and get rid of the mafia element, European and North American investors would be flocking to them in droves to help them develop a healthy, prosperous, climate friendly economy. They would not need worry about their western border, but only their southern one. In time that would change as well. They could become and remain a legitimate, respected world player.

But that’s a path Mr. Putin can’t and won’t take. He’s up to his neck in sweet, crooked mafia deals which have made him a billionaire. He can’t possibly be the democratic reformer they need. True democratic reforms would land him in jail and return his billions to the citizenry.

NATO members will grow in number in reaction to Russian bellicosity. Meanwhile, Canadian and Danish NATO troops are in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania protecting those countries.

All Europe will freak (maybe except Belarus and Romania) when Russia invades and takes over Ukraine. The Russian military at great cost, will succeed temporarily, but the Ukraine resistance movement will be fierce, unforgiving, persistent, and enduring.

Through this move, Big Red Mama Bear will do the world a favor in uniting the world’s democracies into a much tighter bond. This will set the stage for an eventual replacement for the United Nations, a federation or confederation of democratic nations. Immanuel Kant’s dream will finally be fulfilled.

Bob: To me, the 2:47 am birth time could fit, if it were a little earlier, putting Pluto in Leo on the ascendant……

But as pointed out, this is all pretty unreliable.

Thanks so much Eliseo, for that vision.

Eliseo, I like that view of things, too. From your mouth to God’s ears – may it manifest.

Have you ever thought of teaching international affairs or history – you have a great grasp of it?

My stepson’s doctoral dissertation is on Kant – a different aspect than you mentioned but he is definitely a Kant scholar. However, I don’t remember him mentioning a world federation (although he probably did). So I looked it up and, indeed, I found mention of Kant’s “Essay Toward Perpetual Peace”.

Fascinating!

Sharon,
It too frequently seems great loss of life occurs before great advances are made in our collective human consciousness. I did not mean to gloss over the sacrifice of the Ukranian people, before the era I mentioned comes to pass. They’ve suffered so much. They took much of the brunt of WWII operation Barbarossa, and the Nazi death squads. – Then Stalin. Must they now endure more?

When reading Kant, much can be lost in the transition from German to English. Kant uses the word democracy to mean direct democracy, which he is against. He is a strong proponent of representative democracy.

Likewise, in English, German, and American texts from the 19th century, when they use the word “universe,” they are referring to our Milky Way galaxy. They did not know there was anything beyond it.

Mars days for Putin’s natal and Sibly’s Sun and Saturn.

Putin (SPECULATIVE)Natal Relocated Oct 7 1952, 7:02 pm, BAT -3:00
Moscow Russia, 55°N45′, 037°E35′

Feb 13 2022 Mars at 14°19′ Capricorn Square Sun at 14°19′ Libra
Feb 17 2022 Mars at 17°30′ Capricorn Square Saturn at 17°30′ Libra
Feb 18 2022 Mars at 18°24′ Capricorn Opposite Uranus at 18°24′ Cancer
Feb 22 2022 Mars at 21°11′ Capricorn Square Neptune at 21°11′ Libra

Thank you all for your responses with regard to Putin and Ukraine. Eliseo, thank you for your rather hopeful post above. It is hard to get a handle these days – between the polarization which is being fed by a combination of social media, greed, and foreign players, the actions of Putin, and the entire world in the midst of a three-year pandemic not to mention the ticking time bomb of global warming. It is enough to spin your head and then some. Thanks, everyone.

Also, Eliseo, I agree about a cyberattack on the US in the near term. Have been picking up that this could happen at any time.

Bob,

Re: Russia & Ukraine

Based on what I have read over the past week or so, prevailing opinion seems to suggest that Putin will most likely wait until the Beijing Olympics are completed (Feb 20th) in deference to Chinese president Zhi. Here’s one such assessment…….

Jack Keane Makes Major Prediction On When Russia Will Invade Ukraine

Video: 4 min 14 sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gvv-xi7l64

With that in mind, and reconsidering the timeline, you and I seem to be on the same page as far as the latter part of Feb. I was looking specifically at the aspects for Feb 22rd/ 23rd (as you mentioned tr. Mars will be squaring Putin’s natal Neptune on the 22nd). This following day on the 23rd there is an exact Mars-Neptune sextile (22 ’12 Capricorn-Pisces) forming a yod (double quincunx) to Putin’s natal Pluto (22 ’43 Leo). It will also be activating the US Mars-Neptune square (21 Gemini – 22 Virgo). Putin seems transfixed by his own rhetoric and whether by deliberate design or happenstance we can easily see some kind of military operation at this time.

Also, there is another factor coming into play here. As one may recall, March 21, 2020 saw tr. Mars conjoin the Jan 12, 2020 Saturn/Pluto conjunction degree (22 Capricorn) thus resulting in a world wide closure of many of the international borders due to the raging virulent COVID 19 pandemic. February 23rd, 2022 has tr. Mars once again conjoining that degree after completing its 2 year orbital cycle. Based on that one factor alone, I suspect something major will be occurring at this time.

I’m sure Mr. Putin and Mr. Xi Jinping love this! This sort of rhetoric emboldens them to take over whatever area they choose.

Trump Says He Would Consider Pardons for Jan. 6 Defendants if Elected

In a speech in Texas, the former president also urged supporters to stage protests if prosecutors in Atlanta and New York took action against him.

https://www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nytimes.com/2022/01/30/us/politics/trump-speech-texas.amp.html?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16436036669847&amp_ct=1643603669580&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2022%2F01%2F30%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-speech-texas.html

For Sharon K.

Excerpt from Locksley Hall, By Alfred, Lord Tennyson
Tennyson wrote it in 1835, but it was not published until 1842.

President Harry S Truman kept a typed copy of this poem in his breast pocket for much of his life. During his presidency, it was for him like a private prayer.

For I dipt into the future, far as human eye could see,

Saw the Vision of the world, and all the wonder that would be;

Saw the heavens fill with commerce, argosies of magic sails,

Pilots of the purple twilight dropping down with costly bales;

Heard the heavens fill with shouting, and there rain’d a ghastly dew

From the nations’ airy navies grappling in the central blue;

Far along the world-wide whisper of the south-wind rushing warm,

With the standards of the peoples plunging thro’ the thunder-storm;

Till the war-drum throbb’d no longer, and the battle-flags were furl’d

In the Parliament of man, the Federation of the world.

There the common sense of most shall hold a fretful realm in awe,

And the kindly earth shall slumber, lapt in universal law.

silcominc,
RE: a possible cyber attack.
This is probably why Russian naval vessels are parked SW of Ireland directly over the transatlantic cables. Control of those cables, perhaps severing them would go along with their quest to shut down all communication in Canada, the US, and Europe. They don’t want us to see what they intend to do in Ukraine, or elsewhere.

The Russians are more likely to begin their operation soon after the Olympics have concluded, Feb. 20-ish. Considering the fact the waters in the Taiwan strait are far less turbulent in March, one of the only three months in which an amphibious assault would be practical, an invasion of Taiwan by the PLA might also be in the offing simultaneous with the Russian cyber attack. Just a speculation.

But so far, we are not seeing a necessary preparatory build up of forces along the Chinese east coast across from Taiwan. Such preparation would need to have begun 60 to 90 days before a Taiwan invasion. IF it comes at all, it might be far later.

Wow.

Cash Peters, a well known intuitive who posts regularly on youtube, paid a brief tribute to Meher Baba in one of his postings today along with his perceptions of Meher Baba’s passing (“transition pictures” as he calls them). The fact that his posting coincided with Amar Tithi, the anniversary of Baba’s passing (January 31st) which in years past is generally a fairly large celebratory affair here in Meherabad India is heart-warming and remarkable. The pertinent section begins at 4 min 35 sec into the video.

Matt Gaetz – uh-oh. Tucker Carlson, SCOTUS, U.S. democracy, Raphael Warnock, and Meher Baba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LZI-ZBx_gk&t=275s

Eliseo, a beautiful poem that bears repeated readings to grasp the meanings….

It’s ironic, though, that Truman is the one who dropped 2 atomic bombs to end a war….

I have heard both sides of that, and one states that the Japanese were already trying to surrender before it happened! I’d hate to think that was true because what does it say about Truman (my mother’s favorite president)? Being a history expert, you must know something about it.

For a laugh during these tense times
the brilliant Madeline Gail Kahn
September 29, 1942 – December 3, 1999
Ain’t Got no Home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd4LZ5d9j5U

Using her extraordinary singing ability and her completely off the wall, screwball comedic talent, she sings as a little Black boy, a little Black girl, and of course a frog, all singing Ain’t Got No Home

Madeline, may you rest in peace and bring your talent with you in your rebirth!

She’s really good! Holy crow too bad she’s gone eh?

Sharon K,
To clarify, I’m structuring this in 4 parts.

Part 1.
I shake my head every time I hear such stories like that. The notion the Japanese were willing to surrender before we dropped the bomb on Hiroshima is at best a half truth, more like a quarter truth. Actually, they were divided.

But some in Japan did indeed propose a very absurd CONDITIONAL surrender, a supremely unacceptable one in which those who committed war crimes were to be exonerated. Their proposal included the requirement NO Japanese officials, politicians, officers, or soldiers be tried or punished or merit any consequences at all.

The Allies were unwilling to let such things go. The Rape of Nanking (as only one example) continued for six weeks, in which Japanese soldiers committed arson, rape and murder on massive scale, killing somewhere between 300,00 and 430,000 Chinese civilians, just for the fun of it. At Nanking, two Japanese officers held contests to see how quickly 100 random Chinese could be beheaded. Such behavior was much too common throughout the Asian theater of war.

The evidence squarely and entirely points to the most important and powerful Japanese leaders, imbued deeply in their shame culture, vowing Bushido fanaticism. Death and/or total annihilation was considered honorable, whereas surrender was not merely repugnant, but so shameful as to require seppuku.

At Potsdam Truman got the word the tests in New Mexico were successful. He made a point of informing Stalin we now had the new weapon. To Truman’s surprise Stalin showed no reaction, as spy Klaus Fuchs, had already told him.

Before Potsdam, the US and allies had demanded total and unconditional surrender of the Empire of Japan, just as we had of Germany. The Japanese misinterpreted this to mean they would lose their sacred emperor. Some thought he might even be executed along with all the royal family. (Fervent hatred of the emperor was widespread in the US and the Japanese knew this.)

Part 2.
We then reissued our demand, but in modified form. We now demanded the total and complete unconditional surrender of ALL Japanese MILITARY FORCES. Unfortunately, the Japanese high council misinterpreted this to mean something had changed, that we were backing down. They concluded that if they held on during invasion, the US would eventually tire of the mess and go home. They thought they could outlast us.

Simultaneously, at the military hospital in Hiroshima and several other centers, Japanese officers were being trained as suicide bombers. In the countryside the women and children were being trained in techniques for killing American soldiers and commanded to fight unto their death. At Okinawa their people were told they must fight unto death because the Americans were savage cannibals and intended on torturing the children before they ate them. Similar stories were circulating in mainland Japan.

British and American experts at the time concluded “Operation Downfall,” the full invasion, would take at least a year, but quite possibly several years. It would be at least 30 times bigger than the D-Day invasion, and result conservatively, in over one million American deaths, and perhaps as many as ten million dead total when the Japanese themselves were included. Truman and company were also convinced the Japanese would, in reprisal for the invasion, murder ALL of the British, Australian, New Zealander, and American prisoners of war then held in captivity.

Part 3
Truman was a good man of conscience. We know this from the various biographies. My mentor and archbishop, who at the time was a young man in the treasury department, delivered an economic report to him every morning very early. Every one who knew the man knew how appropriate and fitting was his surname. Rightly or wrongly, Truman believed until the day he died he had made the most moral and right decision possible, a decision which would literally save millions more lives than it would destroy. This in no way detracted from his idealism. None of us have been, or hopefully will ever be in such a position to make such a moral decision.

After the Hiroshima bomb was dropped, the Japanese High Council (their prime minister and privy cabinet) was bitterly divided. The PM made the decision to allow the emperor to decide. Hirohito decided on surrender, but this predicated an attempted coup, wherein a 1000 Japanese soldiers assaulted the palace.

Fortunately, some Japanese patriots saved the emperors life. (That’s quite a dramatic and harrowing story unto itself!) Nevertheless, it was a full 6 days AFTER the Nagasaki bombing their diplomats finally and reluctantly informed the US they would accept surrender.

Part 4.
The US dropped leaflets warning people to stay out of harm’s way before we dropped those bombs, but few if anyone believed we were serious. Although not as far along as the American or German bomb program, Japanese physicists were working on their own version of the bomb. They also were constructing very long range bombers, hiding them in caves for the purpose of bombing our west coasts with ceramic bombs full of fleas infected with bubonic plague. Their launch date was to be in September 1945. Incidentally, those bombers were not designed to return home. These were to be suicide missions.

The Russians finally declared war on Japan days before the atomic bombings. Had we NOT used them, after a presumed successful Operation Downfall, and Operation Coronet, there eventually would have been a Northern Japan controlled by Communists, and a Southern Democratic Japan, like the Koreas of today.

When Emperor Hirohito, summoned to appear before General MacArthur, standing, later sitting in the general’s office, he was treated with utmost respect, kindness and compassion. Hirohito thought he might be hanged, and was dutifully willing to go to the gallows to save his people from further suffering. When MacArthur told him he was not to be punished, but they should work together to rebuild Japan into a prosperous, happy, and free democracy, he was utterly shocked and grateful. In astonishment, he departed MacArthur’s residence feeling great shame, he and his subjects had ever thought so poorly of the Americans.

The story is well told by John Hurt. (About 90 minutes) BBC Hiroshima

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKerQACkks0

and by Monsieur Z (about 15 minutes) at AlternateHistoryHub
What if America Had Invaded Japan? (Operation Downfall)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rrmqju74A8

Sharon,
In the meeting between MacArthur and Hirohito, the general literally said, “This is not about punishment. I need your help.”

Re: The Cash Peters commentary,

I shared the video with a few of my Baba friends after posting here and there seems to be a general consensus that although favorable of Meher Baba, the listener could easily draw the impression that Baba is just another guru, one of many. This is not the case. I hope my posting hasn’t created an unintended misunderstanding. Baba had stated in no uncertain terms that he is the Avatar (the Christ). For a better understanding of the role of the Avatar in this day and age and Gods periodic advent on earth that coincides with great critical periods in history, there’s a lovely, eloquent discourse by Baba entitled The Avatar…..

https://www.discoursesbymeherbaba.org/v3-11.php

Thanks for that narrative Eliseo. I always wondered about the behind the scenes details. Japan had developed plans to invade NZ too – Japanese submarines were being deterred by mines, gun bunkers were built at harbour entrances. My uncle was sent to Japan immediately post war where they discovered large sums of money that had been printed specifically for NZ use.

Eliseo: I wish I knew – or remembered the history you posted – from my childhood stories. The history that was taught to us in school was piecemeal and incomplete.

You ARE an historian and I am grateful.

I wish we ALL knew our important history.

If the crackpots in the Republican party today knew history as you do, things would be different.

Steve Judd had a February forecast video on Youtube today. He says Putin’s chart is absolutely fascinating at this time. Also he thinks that if Putin is going to invade Ukraine, that it would be before Feb 14th, which is of course before the Olympics end. Anyone take a look at Putin’s astrology?

Also, he predicts that the rest of the year from March will take a turn for the better, or , that we will be over the worst part. Lets hope so..

Can someone please of Biden’s and Trump’s chart for 2022 midterms?

Except perhaps for those of them who were basically sociopaths or malignant narcissists.

Teaching such history would indeed separate the sane from the insane.

The sane would receive it; the insane would hear it and not receive it…….

And maybe as a people receiving this information it would enable us to make far wiser choices as we vote for our representatives.

Is sociopathy a form of insanity or is it classed as a personality disorder?

Could someone who knows how, and has the time and energy, please look at how the 2022 election night transits affect the charts of Nancy Pelosi, Kevin McCarthy, Chuck Schumer, and Mitch McConnell? This might reveal a lot about how the election turns out. Thanks!

sunstars,
Insanity is a legal and colloquial term, not a psychiatric one. The words sociopathy and psychopathy are often used interchangeably to refer to someone with a severe personality disorder characterized by lack of conscience, empathy, and moral sense. There is debate as to how much of this is social based,or biological. Sociologists and psychologists see it a bit differently, but are mostly in accord.

As I was trained in sociology, I tend to use the word sociopathy, also because the word psychopathy can be confused with psychosis. Will, or Nancy, working as therapists may have a different view. I hope this helps.

Mark,
Astrologer, Andre Kahr looked at Mitch McConnell’s & J. Biden’s charts for election night. (Or was it the day afterward?) Biden looked happy, McConnrll unhappy. From this & other astrological factors he concluded Dems would keep the House & Senate in election 2022.

It strikes me the US Pluto return is presently occurring simultaneously with the Neptune semi-return. This is an extreme one-two punch from the cosmos, which makes this year a major turning point in US and world history. It is a spiritual low point. It’s uphill starting next year. Thankfully, Pluto opposite US Mercury and square Eris are over, which means some of the extreme polarization should slowly recede. For example, this means to me that Trump has no political future, and the 2024 elections still look promising for your country (we have other issues in Canada), but neither Biden nor Harris will be the Democratic candidate. The mid-terms will be tough but Trump will be indicted before then, which will completely change the picture and increase the chances of holding on in Congress for the Democrats.

Andre,
I’ve “watched” with grave concern the polarization as reflected in the Pluto opposition to the US Mercury and square Eris. I notice some R’s are indeed backing away s-l-o-w-l-y from Trump. His speech in Conroe, Texas, (I’ve been there a number of times) served to push away some of the more “rational” R’s.

January 30th, in the evening CST, on the 89th anniversary of A. Hitler’s assumption of power over the Third Reich, Trump delivered what is probably the most incendiary and dangerous speech in American history, a speech in which he essentially promised a racially charged civil war if he’s indicted.

That’s no coincidence. It just so happens the Fulton County district attorney, Fani Willis, the New York Attorney General Letitia James, the Manhattan prosecutor Alvin Bragg, and Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, chairman of the House committee, are all Black.

I agree Trump will be indicted well before the 2022 election, and I believe he will be convicted not only on the basis of testimony and written evidence, but also his recent, unrepentant, confessional words.

With all that’s going on domestically, and in world affairs, it is obvious profound changes are afoot. The most extraordinary and transformational events of our lives are about to unfold in the next 60 days, and for the rest of this year.

I’m feeling psychically overwhelmed. And I’m guessing many others who post or lurk here feel the same way for the same reasons.

I’m feeling it too, Eliseo, Andre, Jerry, et al. I’m trying to keep it all at a higher energy level.

And sometimes, I just want the universe to stick it reeeeeaaaal hard to Trump–and stuff a sock down his f—ing throat.

I thoroughly loathe him and all that he represents.

This person should have been institutionalized years ago and forgotten about. Like, literally forgotten about and left to rot.

Instead, we gave him a stage, a spotlight, and a microphone. And a damn Twitter account.

I’m crystal clear that this bastard has no qualms about wrecking the country and plunging us into chaos.

OF COURSE he wants to save his sorry ass.

In other news, water is wet and the sky is blue.

But even if he knew that he couldn’t save himself, he’d just do it for revenge.

I’m sure there’s some higher purpose for all of this. But as you suggested, Eliseo, it’s a whole lot of energy to process through and deal with in a short period of time. Maybe it’s necessary, but I’m really hoping for a payoff that’s as positive and constructive as the recent period has been awful.

Linda Shurman writes that Mercury will be going direct tomorrow as it conjuncts pluto and she says this can mean severe weather events and I see that there is an ice storm enveloping much of the country. As everyone here has said, buckle up and stay safe – it’s bumpy out there.

https://soothesayer.com

BuckeyeShadow,

“I’m feeling it too, Eliseo, Andre, Jerry, et al. I’m trying to keep it all at a higher energy level.

And sometimes, I just want the universe to stick it reeeeeaaaal hard to Trump–and stuff a sock down his f—ing throat.”

Hear, hear!

I really enjoyed Linda Shurman’s article, silcominc. I had forgotten about her. She does have a wonderful way with words and her astrological conjectures (that are not just astrological but show a depth of knowledge, are posed in a way that is very plausible.

I also like her simplistic overviews that are not too wordy or detailed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/01/31/library-book-idaho-dillon-helbig/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1PZT3X6QwPt4stkZKm05Ymb3h5rVONZsTpskGBEeIG5Wtv_kgvy7Hb2AA

This is about a really special little boy who wrote and illustrated his own little book, then slipped it onto a library shelf in the children’s section. It now has a major wait list because it’s so entertaining. I think it’s really creative & beautifully done, and it gives me hope for the future. (You may have to cut & paste the link but it works.)

lovely story Sharon! I hope someone has the foresight to copy the pages for another printing- would hate to think all that use might damage the unique book.

I feel exactly the same way. I wouldn’t be surprised if a company offers to publish it, though.

BuckeyeShadow,
Certainly true DJT should have been institutionalized years ago. Unfortunately, we coddle our white collar criminals, especially those that go into politics. Even when they go to jail, they go to Club-Fed. Might as well have house arrest in a posh, expensive hotel.

Stuffing a sock down his throat is entirely too kind and won’t teach him anything. He’s the kind of oppositional and obtuse sort who only learns through experience. He’s too dumb to learn any other way.
No, what we need to do is to
(1) imprison him.
(2) Once imprisoned, sedate him.
(3) While under anesthesia perform the requisite surgery.
(4) Let him wake up….. as a woman, a very dark Black woman with a very different face, voice, and eyes, but with perfect and complete memory of his life as the Donald.
(5) While still imprisoned give her longevity drugs to make sure she endures the new condition for a few more decades.
(6) Let the record show she went to prison for sex crimes.
(7) Release her on probation as a 42 year old registered sex offender with no money, who must now make it on her own with the new identity in Mississippi.
(8) Just in case she veers off into seriously harming anyone, make certain she is under constant and covert surveillance for the rest of her life.
(9) Send his children and minions to Guantanamo
Bay.

Eliseo: Not bad!

Except I’m not sure I would send anyone to Guantanamo Bay. And I’m sure some are thinking “That’s the point!”

Just like I think that the death penalty makes murders of us all……But I like your ideas of the prison … and the transitions…..

Atho I think of “Vengeance is Mine, Sayeth the Lord”…

Probably it’s “Karma is Mine, Sayeth the Lord.”

How come we don’t get to see it?

Oh, well. Probably I am not alone in that sentiment.

Obviously. Hahahaha!! Still giggling. 🙂

Like, I have wondered that my whole life. How come we don’t get to see it? Karma that is …

I had to go to Sunday school as a girl. We learned “An Eye for an Eye”. A Life for a Life. And in the Old West that prevailed. Just ask my former husband who could be an associate of Stewart Rhodes.

While essentially still a child I asked myself – How could Hitler atone for all those lives? -Each and every life he took? How could those “doctors” ever atone for the unspeakable unbelievable insane cruelty to so many people? I wondered that for so many years.

There has (had) to be something else going on.

Something that is beyond my understanding.

Sunstars,
Yes, i probably should have omitted the bit about Guantanamo. I apologize. Some of his offspring and minions have committed crimes, but perhaps not all of them. I sense Melania as an entitled narcissist, but that’s no crime. His son Barron was probably raised to possess a deep sense of entitlement, but was surely not involved in his father’s seditious conspiracy, or other nefarious enterprises, criminal negligence, or bizarre, egotistical incompetence.

Karma? I don’t think we understand it well at all. We tend to see it through unconsciously Calvinistic eyes as though it were a black and white accountant’s ledger. It is an Asian concept, therefore having nothing to do with our notions of social or individual justice, (which we derived from the “Hebraic prophetic tradition,” and oddly has nothing to do with prophecy!) Karma has nothing to do with punishment, paying for anything, or what we think we might deserve or not deserve. It evidently IS associated with learning and development , but as I said, I think we understand it very poorly.

Sunstars,
Karma:
Why we don’t get to see it?
A. It is spiral in nature.
B. It resolves within cycles lasting several human lifetimes.
I suspect the only way to “see” it (intuitively) is through a deep, assiduous study of history in astrological context.
Our normal story narratives, (good guys/bad guys, erc.) are inapplicable. Were karma a film, it would NOT be in black and white. It would manifest in some colors we can see, but also others, infracolorrs and ultracolors we cannot perceive at our present level of development.

Sunstars,
A question of meaning.
As far as we know, our universe is 13.5 billion years old.
Were we to live a life for one million, three hundred fifty years, or have many lives cumulatively that long, those total years would only represent 0.00741 percent of the life of our universe so far. Also, some astrophysicists believe our universe is yet in its infancy.

Eliseo, how about his own island resort of the alcatraz or devils island variety – no tv, no internet, no media, no adoring crowds, no escape.

Kiwi,
From my perspective, the no adoring crowds, no escape part would be the most essential.

My prescription was intended to force him/her to learn some actual empathy, and move beyond his sexism and racism.

Orangeman is quite a conundrum.

What you said helps Eliseo…. Probably helps everyone reading this blog.

OK – watching Steve Judd about Putin. It’s kinda dangerous prognosticating on a chart which doesn’t have an AA reading, or even a secure year of birth.

Judd mentions that tr. Saturn is coming up to oppose Putin’s Pluto…. in a while. Several months.

If Putin was born in 1950, it’s more immediate.

Plus, tr. Saturn would be in opposition to Putin’s natal Moon in Leo which conjuncts his natal Pluto in Leo, in the weeks and months to come.

Looks like there’s going to be action in Putin’s life in the near future, which would correspond to his year of birth being 1950. And the action that is triggered would take place in his 10th house of public presentation.

And the other proffered time of birth is 2:47 am, which would put Pluto in the twelfth house, near the Ascendant, and if in 1950, conjunct Moon in Leo.

That fits as well. Pluto in Leo on the Ascendant. With the Moon…. He would have a Scorpio like Ascendant and maybe even more so than the Scorpio sign…. and Pluto conjunct the Moon – Scorpionizing the Moon. Hey! How about that literary license…

So…. Tricky.

I know, I know. This is a serious blog.

Hmm…, I also have my moon in about 17-18 Leo conj pluto and mercury in Aquarius at about 16-17. My husband has natal saturn and mars there in Leo (his pluto is a few degrees earlier). I can already tell how much fun it’s going to be – lol!

Actually Bob might have it right by taking the inception of his presidency (presidencies) if all else fails….

Gonna get interesting pretty shortly here. I mean, if you’re an observer.

I think most everybody has been watching with trepidation to say the least…. Maybe Zelensky should be brought into the equation…. What a great guy he is.

I think Biden and his crew are so cool – nailing that ISIS guy today in such a classy way. Take a look at THAT, Putin! Is that a co-inkydinky or what.

Ok do I actually press send on such an irreverent post…?

Sharon – just read your post. Figuratively let’s hold each others’ hands. I have been wondering how tr Saturn and tr Uranus are going to affect me, as I have Pluto, Saturn, and Mars in Leo.

I have been hoping that by now, my experience and maturity are going to lend me to see other points of view, and roll with the interesting experiences that are going to happen to me.

I’ll let you know.

Uh-Oh. Sounds like your husband and I may be born in the same general vicinity Sharon….. good grief.

If that’s so, us Leo stelliums need comic relief….. whew!

I like Pisces Moons when they are combined with an Earth sign Sun sign.

Other than that my favorite Moon is a Leo Moon.

But you know, all these are generalizations. Very much so. Cz Putin may have a Leo Moon. AND, that icon of corporation, money and status – Betsy De Vos – is a Capricorn with a Leo Moon. I understand her but do not appreciate her. Otherwise I have fallen in love with her male counterpart. Astrology is so interesting.

My favorite daughter (only one) has Moon in Leo. Sun in Leo too. And Saturn. She’s bossy. Year of the Snake.

Suzanne White, of “The New Astrology” says of Leo Snake:

Accepting his own pride as occasional foolishness or humbling himself long enough to accept aid or assistance is simply beyond the Leo/Snake. He is one of those people who always gives you an indulgent laugh and snaps, “Don’t be so naive! I know what I’m doing.” Shortly after you have turned tail and left the overconfident Leo/Snake teetering at the edge of his favorite precipice, you hear the thud. He’s not one to complain.

My daughter has given me endless entertainment. Of course, one has to be respectful to a triple Leo born in the year of the Snake. So I have to keep my entertainment on the QT.

Sunstars,
My natal Mars is at 0 degrees 33 minutes of Leo.
My natal Pluto is at 19 degrees 41 minutes of Leo.

Does that make me “co-inkydinky?”

Yup but you ARE missing Saturn. In Leo. But likely your Saturn is in Libra…which may be my favorite place for Saturn. I don’t know what it’s like for the person owning it but it really comes off well. Two of my sisters have/had it. I really like the fairness and the reasonableness of it. Of course, one of my sisters is a Gemini with Moon and Mars in Scorpio OMG but once you get past that…..

So, not quite co-inkydinky. But better.

Heh, I have Uranus at 14 Leo, Ascendant 17 Leo and Moon 18 Leo. I’ve been watching this coming for awhile! Bf’s Venus/IC at 17/18 Leo. Urgh. We continue to be good going on 13 years, but maybe the fact we don’t live together is a good thing given the transits! Also, our composite Saturn is in Libra, FWIW.

Sunstars, the 1950 chart has many more Saturn opposite natal and progressed Pluto aspects this year than the 1952 chart. An aspect very appropriate for arrest and/or conviction.

Not many more, just 2 more.

Sunstars
Andre
And all our Canadian friends,
I find myself very confused as to the trucker protests in Toronto and Quebec City. I understand it has something to do with anti-vaccination sentiment, masks, etc. But I feel as though I’m missing something.

Hah! We shall see…. Thank you, Bob!! Hope springs eternal…

It’s embarrassing, Eliseo! I was caught in the middle of it last weekend (noise and volume and organization – in the middle of the main street in Victoria – as is seldom seem in Canada – if ever) and thought the same thing you did – What the heck is going on? There’s an undercurrent here … and yes, we are missing something.

So I phoned my sister, who does Canadian politics with the same passion I have for my former home America.

Well, I caught her in the middle of a book about Steve Bannon. She’d had it over a year but was just reading it now. It was called: “War for Eternity”. Ben R. Teitelbaum………”Inside Bannon’s Far-Right Circle of Global Power Brokers”.

When she ran to get the book, my brother in law said drolly – “There’s lots of conspiracy theories…”

So I guess this is in the category of “For what it’s worth…”

This book has a review in “The Guardian” which I am going to read summarily. And my sister has only read the first few chapters….

She thinks Bannon’s aim is to break up our society so that we will be made into a hierarchy that suits him, and The “Traditionalists”. She was reading me what Traditionalists are, but I found the explanation unpleasant.

She says the book has it that Bannon and his minions were key in placing Bolsonaro and Erdogan.

So where the money came from for the Trucker demonstration – to me, was from the US…. haha! Probably not here in Canada……..

That’s all I have for now…. Going to keep my eye on it.

Yes, another vision to give you – I was walking down the street past the Parliament Grounds to meet a girlfriend for early dinner right on the Inner Harbour, and the anti-vaxx demonstrators were just dispursing. That was a big YUCK!!!

They are very loud, and very organized, and well-funded.

And they call up overwhelming feelings of repulsion within me.

Umm – revulsion sounds better. Revulsion I could barely retain.

Eliseo,

“Stuffing a sock down his throat is entirely too kind and won’t teach him anything. He’s the kind of oppositional and obtuse sort who only learns through experience. He’s too dumb to learn any other way.
No, what we need to do is to
(1) imprison him.
(2) Once imprisoned, sedate him.
(3) While under anesthesia perform the requisite surgery.
(4) Let him wake up….. as a woman, a very dark Black woman with a very different face, voice, and eyes, but with perfect and complete memory of his life as the Donald.
(5) While still imprisoned give her longevity drugs to make sure she endures the new condition for a few more decades.
(6) Let the record show she went to prison for sex crimes.
(7) Release her on probation as a 42 year old registered sex offender with no money, who must now make it on her own with the new identity in Mississippi.
(8) Just in case she veers off into seriously harming anyone, make certain she is under constant and covert surveillance for the rest of her life.
(9) Send his children and minions to Guantanamo
Bay.”

Brilliant plan!

I heard on MSNBC radio the number of deaths per day now vacillates between 3000 & 4000 per day because of UNvaccinated Omicron victims. By end of March we will have had over 1 million covid deaths in the US alone.

They say love is blind, but surely hate is blinder. Current far right hate/ideology is literally blinding people to death!

Sunstars,
Some call me a “Left Libertarian.” I strongly believe in individual and personal freedom. But my notions, ethical stances, and strong opinions are not my gods. I refuse to engage in ideological or practical idolatry. For what to me is obvious necessity, personal, individual liberties must take a back seat in times of public health emergency. We cannot allow one person’s freedom to endanger the freedom of millions to live!

Upthread, (or was it in the previous thread?) a friend of the blog was shocked to discover my hardline position on vaccinations, masks, etc. She assumed I took such a position because irresponsible people exposed my brother who subsequently died of the disease. She assumed wrongly that my anger and grief had clouded my thinking.

She is a fine and good person, but IMO her radical concept of individual freedom is skewed. My opinion as to what action should be taken was not changed, softened, or hardened by my brother’s death. I sincerely believe that in a just and rational society, those who refuse vaccination need to go to jail, and remain there until they have been vaccinated. Only then might they be released. Some might think that harsh, but I think eminently justifiable that we might save a few 100,000’s of lives.

On the practical level, implementing such a policy is primarily a problem of resources. Have we enough jail cells to house all the refuseniks? Or the physical man/womanpower to do all that arresting and transport?

As far as the Canadian truckers, presuming they are indeed funded by Americans, I apologize. But frankly, we know there are wealthy agent provocateurs not just in the US, but in a number of places on our globe who seek to burn the system down. And this is only one of their several projects.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/05/americas/canada-trucker-protest-covid-19/index.html

“Crowds of demonstrators join rallies across Canada as Covid-19 trucker protests spread”

Why? Canada is socialist. Are the restrictions that strict? Is it affecting the economy? Or, do they just think the truckers are cool?

Jeez Andre! Would you weigh in here?

Here’s a good article about the trucker situation –

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/truck-convoy-protesters-given-monday-deadline-to-leave-or-risk-inclusion-in-9-8-million-class-action-lawsuit

Apparently, some of the core organizers did mean for it to get to this extent.

Sharon,
I read the CNN article, but find myself as confused as ever. I note SOME of the protesters are US citizens. I’m wondering if this is a far right American funded stunt.

Also dear friend, with all due respect, Canada is NOT a socialist country. They are not even a true Social Democracy! They do have socialized health insurance, and a more rational attitude toward taxes, but that’s a far cry from being socialist.

As for the restrictions: To my knowledge, they are reasonable, but I’m not there. And I suppose Canada has Kooks just as we do, and every other country as well.

I’m nevertheless puzzled. I don’t see any constructive purpose to these trucker protests at all.

The canadian trucker protests seem to me to be a larger version of what happened here. Very much influenced by rightwing US loudmouths using antivax and “freedom” rhetoric to create chaos.

Here, the antivaxxer/freedom stirrers, many of them americans, protesting with american and trump 2024 flags, co-opted what began as a separate protest by farmers regarding future green tax surcharge planned on new gas hog vehicles purchased. Farmers finally got pissed off at the antivaxxers and told them to get lost. Protests now seem to have lost steam, partly due to that, and partly because most people have now been vaxxed.

There are pockets of people living in canada, not all canadians who have swallowed the conspiracy nonsense and are useful idiots – one of them that I know is a NZer – the daughter of a very nice elderly lady in our community to whom the daughter has fed all sorts of nonsense. The daughter is very much hatefully and actively antivax, pro protest.

Several people here that Ive talked to were antivax, not because of reason, but because they were digging in their heels because they didn’t like being told what to do. Now that the mandates forced them to get vaxxed if they wanted to work or run their business, they discovered it wasn’t as bad as the antivax hype. Mandates work, but many kick and scream very loudly on the way to the needle. As a country we are now 82.7% 1st vax, 77.4% 2nd, 31.5% boosted, of the total population.

Omicron has now reached our shores supplanting delta. Numbers have been climbing over the past couple of weeks, but still only 208 community case spread yesterday.

4 of our family members (my husband’s two siblings 70 yrs & older & his adult son) had Omicron, Kiwi, and, although they didn’t enjoy it, they overcame it in a week at home. It really is milder. However, people should still exercise due caution to curtail the spread especially if not vaccinated…and some whose immune systems are compromised, whether due to a disorder or age, will be more threatened health-wise.

Eliseo, thank you for the clarification. How would you compare Canada to France, and to Scandinavia in terms of what the government provides? Don’t spend a lot of time researching it. I’m just picking your brain.

I didn’t really read that last article I posted – I skimmed it but I thought I read that the original organizers of the trucker’s protest did not mean for it to go this far and I’m assuming it was co-opted by the far right, American or otherwise.

Sharon, that is the govt consensus here too. Because of such a high vax percentage, (90% of eligible fully vaxed) they are now beginning to relax border quarantine protocols, allowing overseas arrivals to isolate at home rather than at govt supervised hotels, as they are not so worried about hospital overwhelm with omicron. Mask requirements have been tightened though.

Hey Sharon,
No such thing as a purely “socialist” or purely “capitalist” economy. All economies are a really a mix, and that’s the way its been since the beginning of civilization.

Canada is a tad more “socialistic” than the US in that their taxes pay for their socialized health insurance, but otherwise they are not that different economically from the US. If I’m not mistaken, Quebec and the eastern provinces are a bit more “socialistic” than central and western Canada. Andre and Sunstars would know more about that. I’m no Canada expert.

The UK is a bit more “socialistic” than Canada as they have honest to god “socialized medicine,” not merely socialized health insurance. France and most of Europe are a bit more “socialized” than the UK.

The Scandinavian countries are “social democracies” and consistently rate as happier per capita than the rest of the world. But they are not truly “socialist” in that they, like all of the aforementioned have privately owned business and corporations that compete in world markets. Bernie claims to be a “Democratic Socialist.” But he’s really a social democrat.

India has “socialized education” for all who can make the grade. The government pays the full cost from what we would call kindergarten through the PhD for students capable of graduate work. At Microsoft Redmond there are many US trained computer programners and computer scientists who are still paying back their student loans, who work resentfully with same from India who never paid a dime for their MS or PhD.

Nebraska is the most “socialistic” state in the US, as it “has the distinction of being the only state in the nation served solely by publicly owned utilities, such as municipal utilities, electric cooperatives and public power districts.”

Also consider there are several different varieties of theoretical socialism, just as their are several varieties of capitalism. What in the Western world we call “market socialism” is interesting in that it keeps the present marketing system, but encourages employee and worker ownership as opposed to government ownership. (Unfortunately, the Chinese use the same phrase to mean something entirely different.)

Many speculate we are in “late stage capitalism” which is probably true, but what will likely emerge within the next several decades will be something beyond either theory. Artificial Intelligence, Avanced Medicine, and post-agricultural biotechnology will move us into a system way beyond what we’ve imagined spiritually and economically. It likely won’t manifest until after climate change will have quashed our ideological and power disputes into extremely silly dust.

Eliseo: Thanks for confirming that Canada is not Socialist.

It’s hard to explain to Americans just what we are. And some politicians and talk show hosts use that incorrect definition to contrast the US and Canada to their own ends. The ultraconservative Republicans have touted their ability to be ultra self sufficient, as in every man for himself. Many Americans do not know what Canada is getting at. I would say that myself – I admire Bernie Sanders and his Nordic Model.

This model could possibly be the most humane on the planet. And the most rewarding because it supports the free market and a version of Capitalism that does not eventually veer off into a very destructive state of the insanely rich versus the nearly enslaved poor.

Kiwi, thank you for the update. Glad to hear NZ is doing so well re Covid.

Eliseo, thanks so much – you’re good! You should really be teaching! But someplace that pays a reasonable salary!

SS, thanks for your description of the Nordic model. Yes, the Scandinavians also do seem to come up at the top of the happiest countries list — and it’s SO cold there – LOL

meant to write “always” not “also”

NZ probably has more ‘socialistic’ origins than other commonwealth countries, in that, we are a relatively young country, small, not rich in natural minerals, and whose early settlers were mostly farmers with no vast wealth acquired by any single individual to fund development. So they pooled resources (taxes) that were then used by the govt to build the railways, schools, hospitals, roads, etc. etc. for the common good of all. Even the first airline was an arrangement between NZ, Aust, & Uk govts before NZ got full independence from Britain in 1947. Later, SOE (state owned enterprise) legislation was passed and some (eg Air New Zealand) became private corporations and are run independently, although the govt is still considered the major shareholder. Health care is funded by central government, but is administered by regional health boards. But there is also private healthcare available for those that have the means.
That being said, we also have a healthy democracy and capitalistic business sector system as well. Currently we rate 9th on the global ‘happiness index’

I read today that one of the Canadian protestors was finally arrested after throwing feces at someone. At least THAT was a crime too far.

I admit, I figured Canada would have had a way to better handle this long before it got to this point, and in a much better way than we did (i.e., merely letting it “happen” as the U.S. did).

IMNSHO, this is as much about some of the U.S. (and Canadian?) wealthy wanting Trudeau out of office as much as it is about some elusive “freedom” they think they’re denied. This so-called go-fund-me action is no doubt backstopped by large amounts of the same dark money that funded 1/6. And it all plays into Putin’s desire for polarization of the population of both countries and Bannon’s desire for total and complete government by anarchy. I’m just sick of all it and the games they represent.

Eliseo… in regards to your 4 part comment on the bombing of Japan some ways up above… I have a question.

Why Nagasaki? I understand dropping the bomb on Hiroshima. If nothing else, that was proof of concept. And, proof it was; to the whole world. But why turn around and do the same thing to Nagasaki? I never saw the ethics in that.

Kiwi,
Were the world to go crazier than it already is and self-destruct, I would expect New Zealand and Iceland to be the prime candidates for human survival, as well as the most logical places from which to revision and rebuild the new civilization.

Sharon,
I’d love to be teaching the stuff I know best, but I seem to possess the wrong graduate degree. I nevertheless would like to go back to teaching college English so as to be able to afford further graduate work which would enable my research into emotional hatred, and/or teaching cultural history, cultural anthropology, or international studies.

Argh! Won’t likely go back to work until the pandemic is done and over. I am very tired of living on slightly over $500 per month, and very limited healthcare.

I’m at a stuck place right now in my fiction writing. But recent successive dreams are instructing me to return to social psychological and spiritual writing; later to return to my historical and science fiction. I’ll text to you two titles and subjects I’m considering.

Sunstars,
I’m no Canada expert, but I do love the country. In the late 1960’s and early 1970’s I seriously considered moving there. I’ve had great times in Ontario, Manitoba, and British Columbia. Had I moved to Vancouver or Victoria in the 70’s I might have had a happier life.

As a very young man I studied and found Canada, New Zealand, and Iceland fascinating. Who knows? After my terminally ill wife passes, perhaps I’ll move to one of those places. So far, the US hasn’t had much use for me.

David and I were talking just the other day about wanting to move to New Zealand. But not being independently rich, nor having exceptional skills to add to the society does have its drawbacks at our age. I figure our only hope is if America goes down the drain some countries will open up to to refugee status. There’s that pesky optimism cropping up again (gryn). But I love the New Zealand countryside, and I find myself more and more inclined towards the government. Seems very common sense based, from what I’ve been able to read so far.

SlightKC,
Kokura was the second target, but cloud cover and weather made that impossible. Nagasaki was the substitute target.

Originally, it was thought the military junta in charge of the Japanese government would not be convinced to surrender until we had dropped atomic bombs on at least 5 targets. The hope was it would only take one, but everyone realized that was probably unrealistic.

After the Hiroshma bombing, the Japanese privy council, (the Big Six) concluded that was the only A-Bomb we had. The Japanese military was more determined than ever to fight unto death.

That Bushido determination also prevailed after the Nagasaki bombing! Only after the Nagasaki bombing the 3 civilian members became convinced and willing to vote for surrender, but the 3 military members were steadfast for more war.

After Nagasaki, the privy council was deadlocked 3 to 3. The 3 military advisors (equivalent to our joint chiefs) adamantly and dogmatically insisted on continuation of the war, even if it meant the deaths of every Japanese citizen. Their concept of honor was more important to them than life itself.

By that time, the Soviets had finally declared war on Japan, invaded Japanese held Manchuria, Korea, and taken Sakhalin island. They were on their way, and the clock was ticking.

The emperor broke the 3/3 tie during a council meeting, personally requesting the council accept the terms of unconditional surrender and accept their fate. Hours later he recorded on vinyl disc record his command to the people to lay down their arms and submit to US authority, but without ever using the word “surrender.”

Although Nagasaki demonstrated the US had at least two bombs, and that more might be used, the Japanese military leaders were privately enraged the Emperor had decided upon submission. They staged a coup to (A) destroy the recording and prevent it from ever being heard, and (B) to assassinate the emperor. 1000 Japanese soldiers attacked the palace that very night. Fortunately, Loyalists put down the coup, the emperor was unharmed, and the recording was broadcast the next morning on August 15th.

Was the Nagasaki bombing necessary? Sadly, yes. A majority of the Japanese government was not convinced to surrender after the horrors of Hiroshima! For Truman, the second bombing was a terrible moral necessity which he hoped would save more lives than it destroyed. In the end, it achieved that precise goal; the council was deadlocked after Nagasaki, but the emperor himself was persuaded by that terrible fire.

Hirohito was not a warmonger. He was a fairly passive poet, and botanist who preferred the company of flowers. He was trapped by his role as figurehead monarch and living god. Evidently, it was his preference the war should never have been fought at all, but militarist fascists had come to power in Japan, as they had in several other countries under the aegis of the darker side of Pluto.

At the end, out of love for his people, the emperor stood fast and firm, a difficult thing for his passive personality, courageously expressing his Buddhist heart in a poem. When he spoke to the council, pleading for peace, he did so not in the prose of clever polticians comfortable with extemporaneous speaking, but in the haiku style verse of a humble man with a broken heart.

For Pluto’s role in war, I suggest:
http://www.historicalastrology.com/outer-planets-in-astrology/pluto-and-the-astrology-of-war/

Wow Eliseo. Thank you.

As a being born a few years after that war, those questions were in the background of my mind…. soon pushed father back in my mind by the reality of the Viet Nam war.

And now, Putin is pushing ANOTHER war, with the potential of millions of deaths.

And he is JUST ONE MAN.

We need democracy in this world. Self determination.

With our ability to see the faces of the Ukrainians and the faces of the Russians – doing a face off – with the knowledge that their faces and their bodies may be bloodied, shattered, disfigured, blown up – and they are just like us…. the internet CAN play a part for peace.

Although I recall living in California in 1970 and 1971 I saw on TV the moving pictures of the soldiers in battlefields as they were helpless in that guerrilla type warfare…

But that did not get Nixon to move the boys out faster, as millions of them were maimed, blown up and ruined in every way.

…..The corruption of men in power. Narcissists in power.

Sociopaths in power.

I believe we are on the path to health, equality and democracy.

My ace in the hole book is “Political Ponerology”.

Ponerology is the study of evil. Poner if I remember correctly is an old old word which means evil. Political Ponerology is a science of evil adjusted for political purposes.

I think I remember that the author, Andrew Lobaczewski, was grappling as to tell his readers how he came to use the word evil for what Hitler, Stalin, and the like, did to humanity.

Many if not most of my siblings, inlaws, cousins etc. are teachers, educators.

As the years have gone by I have valued them more and more.

The internet is a great teacher. I think the main reason there is inequality in North America right now is that white supremacy has kept education and information from those who sorely desire it and need it.

But information is coming through, no matter how hard the bad guys try to stop it. It’s only a matter of time…….

The previous post of mine may have come across as harsh – about the boys dying at the behest of the psychopaths.

However, my point is that if we all know up front and personal what has been happening, is happening, and will (or may) happen – then the power is taken out of the hands of the psychopaths.

Lately, the people of Belarus have lost their battle with Lukashenko. Thus, Putin the criminal, the mobster can put troops on the border of Belarus facing Ukraine.

It’s not gonna last long. In terms of months or years. People the world over can see what happened in Belarus. They can SEE it. Just not read it as if it is happening in a far off place separate from you and me.

The young men and women in Ukraine, and in Russia – look alike. When I see the news I can’t tell the Russian soldiers from the Ukrainian soldiers.

People the world over are seeing this. That’s INFORMATION. That’s education. We are seeing the abuses in China as the Olympics unfold.

Uranus – Aquarius. I tell people that Uranus is the Planet of Truth, Freedom and the Latest Information. If you try to stifle Uranus – explosions happen.

So….. Pluto is going into Aquarius. I have read theories on this blog of how the Planets are going to affect our lives for the rest of this century….

I maintain that we are on our way to equality due to information….. due to the fact that now you can’t hold back information from each and every individual human being on this Planet. It’s only a matter of time.

I KNOW about Fox Perverted Entertainment Channel. I know about misinformation. I know about that sicko Murdoch. I know about Putin’s State TV, and China’s State TV.

I maintain since everybody has a phone the true information is going to break through.

Yes, the poor soldiers may go into the futile battle of unspeakable carnage….. But not for long. NATO is talking with one another….. Sweden and Finland are on the cusp of joining NATO. Putin pushing into Ukraine just might do it for them.

We have communication now. We have INFORMATION. With each other. True information. Any attempt to curb information, or to misinform – I think – is doomed to failure in the long run. People are basically good. It’s the Pychopaths that stand out and I think they will become increasingly visible.

I guess we all should watch…. as we all may be vulnerable to the saying: “Power Corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.” This to me means that we need balance and we all need perspective and contrast that comes from living with other human beings…..
We do not exist in a vacuum…. we need each other. We should take care of each other. Of course we cannot sacrifice our individuality – it’s a balance.

People in North America have put stock in the Christian Bible. It’s the way it happened. It worked for the bulk of the first pioneers…..

When God asked Cain where his brother Abel was, Cain said – How would I know? “Am I my brother’s keeper?”

Turns out we are. 🙂

More on the canadian truck protest – I absolutely think this is international right wing coordinated, designed chaos. Today in our capital there was also a US flavored ‘freedom convoy’ blocking traffic and totally disrupting downtown Wellington. In a previously scheduled press conference our PM was asked by the gotcha media about it. She said, ‘well more than the 90%+ vaccinated NZers disagree with them’, she sort of sighed, and somberly said ‘this too shall pass’

And I have transiting Neptune conjunct my Sun.

And transiting Venus square my Neptune; transiting Mars approaching square my Neptune….. but transiting Sun oppose my Mars, transiting Saturn oppose my Saturn, and transiting Moon square my Saturn, and then square my Mars. Hmmm.

Who says those squares and oppositions can’t be good? Heeheehee! Thank god for Neptune hey?

But seriously who can argue that we don’t need good visions, real visions, ones that are truly feasible….
We need visions as much as we need to breathe

Kiwi,
RE: ‘I absolutely think this is international right wing coordinated, designed chaos.’

Sure smells that way!

In this CNN op ed, the author tries to explain why Canada is not taking more aggressive action against the truckers’ convoy in Ottawa. It’s understandable that they want to avoid violence, but it’s not a good model. The truckers have virtually shut down Ottawa. (I actually find the article a little unclear but was wondering what people thought about it.)

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/03/opinions/canada-truckers-protests-covid-19-trudeau-cohen/index.html

On the other hand, something related happened in Portland, OR two summers ago when protesters declared a police-free zone and I believe the government allowed it to stand for a long while. I forget how it ended but will look it up.

Kiwi: I love that your PM said – “‘well more than the 90%+ vaccinated NZers disagree with them,'” she sort of sighed, and somberly said “”this too shall pass'”

My thoughts exactly. For New Zealand. Hopefully for Canada… because we are not quite as highly vaccinated as NZ.

It’s awful to watch and experience this seemingly endless moment of abject stupidity and evil from the Reactionary Far Right… And I still maintain that it is just that, a moment in time.

No-THING lasts forever. This too will pass. Really, it will. And more than a few of the principal instigators of this apparent crisis will likely not see the other side of this decade in their current physical incarnations.

Pluto in Cap has brought up a TON of garbage for disposal since 2008, and we know that Capricorn is one of the most (if not the most) anal-retentive of the 12 signs.

Eris and recently Uranus in Aries really amped things up (or rather down) to a level of infantilism perhaps best embodied by the mentally deranged Man in Orange, who has been elevated to an avatar for those of a similar mind and disordered mental and emotional state. I believe that he on some scale represents Eris in the mix.

Both the recent Uranus-Eris Conjunction in Aries of 2016-17 and the more recent and now waning Pluto-Eris Square seem to have stirred up a witches brew of really, truly bad Reactionary Conservative… utterings. I won’t even call them ideas. These come from some combination of human lizard brain and large intestine interactions, and look and smell in reality about like what you would expect from such a pairing.

The problem with such incoherent and backwards-obsessed raving lunacy is that it doesn’t move anything forward, and in fact is literally nothing more than a deep fear and terror-based response to the very real and legitimate threat of change.

And the biggest upshot? As a result of everything these racist, sexist, idiot bastards like the Nazi Peter Thiel, Charles Koch, Rupert Murdoch, The Man in Orange, et al are doing now, they are actually ACCELERATING the onset of every single one of the changes that they are spending billions in media and political contributions to head off.

Right Wing Conservative Inc USA has no more than 3 years max before it’s total and complete collapse. And it’s not so much that some form of conservatism doesn’t survive and continue onward—Aquarius can certainly take a Conservative bent (e.g. Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, etc.)—but the corporate grifter enterprise hell bent on global domination is doomed.

The only real question that remains to be answered is what will take its place?

sunstars, actually I think Canada is slightly ahead of NZ in vax numbers – Yay for you guys! I should have said 90%+ of Eligible NZers. Kids 5-11 are only just now eligible, separate formula than adults. Still waiting for the under 5.

U.S. favorite to win gold in women’s skiing (holding 2 gold from previous Olympics and many other awards), Mikaela Shffrin, crashes out in her 2nd ski jump today. I’m sure many feel compassion for this sudden turn of event that must be so heartbreaking for her. I took a look at her chart and it explains a lot. She’s under some heavy aspects.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/sports/olympics/mikaela-shiffrin-out-dnf.html

Born 3/13/95

t Neptune is a little more than 2 degrees from conjuncting her natal sun
t Saturn opposes her natal mars
t Pluto conj her natal uranus
t Uranus square her natal mars/venus

Meanwhile, the U.S. has no Gold medals yet 4 days into the Olympics which ends on the 20th. I heard that we were the underdog when it came to gold medals (we have 4 silver & 1 bronze) but it’s a bit of a shocker for me. The U.S. is used to winning and I’m used to seeing us win.

VP Mike Pence, Senator Lisa Murkowski, Senator Mitch McConnel, Mitt.Romney and Nikki Haley all rebuked their fellow Republicans for censuring Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger for speaking out against Trump and the Jan 6 Insurrection. Am I tripping or does this finally indicate the beginning of a real sea change in the otherwise impregnable Republican Wall of Big Lies?. Color me optimistic.

Will,
Call me Mr. Cautious.
Nikki Haley stated that when R’s criticize/trash, etc. other R’s only the media and Dems win. She still supports Trump and minimizes the Jan. 6th insurrection.

Mitt Romney, to his credit voted to convict DJT in both impeachment trials. But he IS the man who in 2012 said “corporations were people too,” and that half of our US population were/are parasites. He’s the classic, Upper Class, classist snob. He sincerely believes in some bizarre, misguided, self serving pseudo-facts and ideas. He is, as he self-described, a “severe conservative.”

Mitch McConnel is a very poisonous snake, and always will be. His motives seem never to he rooted in morality, only in self interest. He, and all the others on your list, except Nikki Haley, are well aware of the probably inevitable political drubbing their party is headed for as reaction to the coming Jan. 6th revelations.

Nevertheless, I get your point. Romney, Pence, and Murkowski all seem to have a good sense of integrity and morality, albeit one very limited, and circumscribed by their insular sense of class superiority and “natural” privilege.

All 5 you listed, plus Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, have good political horse sense. As Pluto moves ever closer to Aquarius, they sense the change in the direction of the winds. Those winds carry with them a toxic perfume they’d rather not wear, a malodor they know will forever taint, and eventually asphyxiate many of their colleagues.

Their present goal is to position themselves so, as to maximize their probability of survival, and minimize the damage to themselves and their colleagues. In so doing, their positioning may or may not represent a “sea change,” but at least a small and growing crack in their Republican dike, their dam, their Wall of Big Lies.  

Sharon, thanks for taking a look at Mikaela Shffrin’s transits. That was my thought when I saw what happened, that she must have some nasty transits going on. I didn’t have time to go look.

I don’t know if anyone has seen Michael Phelps’ documentary, The Weight of Gold, which came out in 2020. It’s available on HBO. It’s about the mental health challenges of Olympic athletes, particularly after they’ve achieved the heights of winning. Very interesting. It also reminds me of the two sides of all astrological planets and aspects, and what happens when one thing is emphasized over all else (say, Mars, for example) and everything is out of balance. The human psyche wants balance and will find a way to counter extremes.

Hi all, this is a follow-up to my previous post on for the changingofthegodsseries.com

It is a 9 episode series influenced by Richard Tarnas and archetypal astrology. The free viewing begins with the first episode on Feb. 22 and the last one airs March 2 but you will need to register at the above link. Each episode will air free for 24 hours after it is premiered.

Episode 1 – Tuesday, February 22 at 9 pm ET
Episode 2 – Wednesday, February 23 at 9 pm ET
Episode 3 – Thursday, February 24 at 9 pm ET
Episode 4 – Friday, February 25 at 9 pm ET
Episode 5 – Saturday, February 26 at 9 pm ET
Episode 6 – Sunday, February 27 at 9 pm ET
Episode 7 – Monday, February 28 at 9 pm ET
Episode 8 – Tuesday, March 1 at 9 pm ET
Episode 9 – Wednesday, March 2 at 9 pm ET

Here’s the link:
https://changingofthegodsseries.com/trailer

Frank,
I’m a great admirer of Richard Tarnas. He is one of my favorite astrology authors.
Many Thanks for the link & the information.

Yes I just refreshed my memory of Tarnas on Wikepedia. He’s the real deal, isn’t he?

Gonna re-acquaint myself with some of his writings, and read some of his books that sound outstanding. What a portfolio he has

Les, I really feel for her. What could be more public than the Olympics? I always feel for athletes on the losing side when I’m watching games especially because it’s public and you see their emotions but what happened to Mikaela is a real challenge. Simon Biles remarkably overcame it somewhat at the summer Olympics but you really have to be mentally tough. Anyway, I wish I had more time to examine her chart more.

Can someone please take a look at my friend’s adult son’s chart? He had to move home, he is depressed, he has a big child support payment for 2 or 3 adolescent daughters (not sure about the oldest; his wife lied about her income I was told – possibly back when Neptune transited his 5 Pisces sun.) He is a good carpenter but would have to market himself more to bring in business. He has had saturn transiting his mars at 11 Aq in the 12th (not coming back) opposing saturn in the 6th in 11 Leo. Jupiter just passed his sun sign last month, not to come back. I want to tell her something to give her/them hope. The most I can think of is that this is his time to overcome adversity and really grow into himself. Thank you.

https://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3&btyp=w2gw&;&nhor=104

Forgot to say that he lost his house.

Frank & Eliseo & all: Re. the Tarnas link – it’s very much doubtful that Tarnas himself has anything to do with this “Changing of the Gods” series of films by Jeff Hays Films. The attribution to the film maker in tiny letters at the bottom of the “Changing” promo link, which says the series is “inspired by” Tarnas.

This person, Jeff Hays, is a film maker who is first and foremost a businessman. It’s about finding a parade to get in front of. It’s to make money thereby (not that we don’t all like to make some money, but not off somebody else’s work). Hays was involved in a making a response film called “Fahrenhype 9/11” to Michael Moore’s “Fahrenheit 9/11” in 2004.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenhype_9/11

My sense is this ‘free’ video series is only a marketing ploy – it is a lead-in to get susceptible people ‘hooked’ and then to spend more money as the project goes on.

Mr. Hay’s method is well described in a Forbes article from a few years ago:

“…..In a crowdfund campaign people think “okay, I’ve donated” and the decision is finished, but in fact they are now on a track. In the beginning, go after a $10 contribution and the contributor’s name will go on site. Set the bar as low as possible, and design the rewards toward the goal of gathering as big a crowd as you can. Then, halfway through the campaign, you add new rewards for the $10 donors designed to move them up in commitment, Hays suggests. At this point you can also begin a referral campaign. “If you refer two people we’ll give you a t-shirt,” for example, because they are contacts who’ve already raised their hands. So you add new incentives to increase the commitments and gather additional referral leads on the way.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/cherylsnappconner/2014/04/25/crowdfund-secrets-from-an-expert-who-raised-1-5m-in-6-consecutive-campaigns/

So, it’s better just to buy and read Richard Tarnas’s very accessible book, ‘Cosmos and Psyche’. Why get ‘sold’ when you don’t have to?

Look Tarnas up on Wikipedia: he’s hardly the sort to promote anything as blatantly commercial as this series (for which you have to give your identity and email or other access).

If Tarnas himself were promoting the series, it could be legitimate, but he’s not doing anything in connection to the series at all. Not that I have found anyway. That says a lot.

Can’t access the chart Sharon.

Bob, you can put the following in your chart software: 6 a.m. on 2/24/77 in Oceanside, CA. Thank you 🙂

His mom also says that he is drinking a little too much, and I noticed that Aquarius is at least a good part of his 12th house so he is running into cleaning up 12th house karma, possibly.

Sharon, the birth time on the hour may not be accurate. That would preclude my working with accurate charts that I use. Can you verify that it is the recorded time please. Also I like to use place of residence (as opposed to place of birth) in my work.

Working without known recorded birth time I have listed major aspects to the given chart from the Jupiter out planets. Those in Blue can be taken as denoting positive times generally. Those in Red as negative times.

Have sent as attachments to E-Mail to you. Pain is calling on me to stop now.

Thank you very much, Bob. I rec’d your email and responded. I hope you’re feeling better.

Eliseo,

Sobering appraisal. Fair and solid.

So how come the media is blaming the dems for the rise in gas prices not oil sources? I smell a rat engineered by the oil producers – low under trump, high under biden? Sure smells like hidden agenda manipulation, and I wonder why journalists are only reporting superficially.

https://www.axios.com/adam-kinzinger-censures-republicans-a5e698ce-7372-44ed-8175-6ed1368c4a3b.html

Kinzinger: “We have to recognize” possibility of a civil war

“It’s going to be armed groups against armed groups, targeted assassination and violence. That’s what a 21st and 20th century Civil War is.”
“A once great party, a party that stood for something, stood for principles, whether you agree with those principles or not, is now a party that stands for loyalty to one man, that was clear in the RNC censure, and that’s what makes me sad more than anything,” he said.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/02/10/trucker-protest-detroit-ambassador-bridge-gretchen-whitmer/6733483001/

“Windsor mayor signals police may soon ‘physically remove’ Ambassador Bridge protesters”
Frank Witsil
Detroit Free Press

In October 1970, newly separated from my family, my people, and the Canada I knew, I was in Long Beach California, not 2 blocks from the beach across Ocean Boulevard. I went to the beach every day. Often I would get in my new little Ford and drive toward San Diego, stopping at the various beaches along the way.

Just a few months earlier, in San Diego, I was introduced to America, quite stunned at the move I had made, and trying to get into the culture in which I found myself. My young husband had given away the Gordon Lightfoot albums I had sent him from Canada to his ship, and instead in our little place there were three albums for me to discover: The Doors, Buffalo Springfield, and I do not at the moment remember the 3rd one…. could have been CCR.

Remarkable to me was the party for the boys who were once again shipped over to Viet Nam. The strobe lights, the Slivovitz poured down the wood varnished bar top, one end to the other, and lit on fire for us to see it burn from one end to the other. The overwhelming sound of The Doors echoing through our brains.

In October of 1970, sitting at the kitchen table in Long Beach, listening to the news…. CANADA was on the news. Pierre Trudeau was on the news. A man named Pierre Laporte who was the Quebec Minister of Labour, had been murdered, his body found in a trunk.

I heard once again, down in Long Beach, the word or words FLQ. Being from Western Canada, the Front de Liberation du Quebec, was hard for me to understand. They were a French Separatist group.

This group wanted to separate from Canada. All I could do was watch, observe, pretty much without judgement when they became visible before I left the country, because I had nothing to inform me of their circumstances.

When Laporte was murdered, and his body found in a trunk, I was shaken and could then not comprehend what was happening.

I further could not comprehend what was happening when Pierre Trudeau declared Martial Law.

Has anyone taken a look at Justin Trudeau’s chart?

He’s no shrinking violet. He is a testament to his father’s careful loving raising because he is a living testimony of courtesy and self control.

Ever see those pictures of Trudeau’s interactions with Trump? Look carefully. He stood toe to toe with Trump and did him one better. He shook hands with Trump, looking long and skeptically at the hand that was extended to him. The wait was just a second, a fraction of a second, that he looked at Trump’s face and then down to his hand,,,.

This is the young man that some people call a Wuss. They are unversed.

It is a quandary, what is happening in my country. Who knows what will happen next. I don’t but I am watching.

All I know is that the overwhelming number of Canadians are vaccinated, and they do not understand where those truckers came from and what they are doing. The rioters absolutely do not represent Canada. They are disgusting and being used by forces greater than themselves for nefarious purposes that have little to do with Canada.

Hello Andre.

Kiwi,
RE:
“So how come the media is blaming the Dems for the rise in gas prices not oil sources? I smell a rat engineered by the oil producers – low under trump, high under Biden? Sure smells like hidden agenda manipulation,”

Well, their costs really have increased, justifying in their minds the price jumps. BUT…, they are always mindful as to when to manipulate prices for their own profit and political gain. They particularly LOVE to do it when they see the possibility their efforts might help to drive a Dem president out of office. They are a bit more careful about it when we have a popular, less assailable Dem president, possibly a two termer. They mistakenly see Biden as a weak one termer. Furthermore, Far Right Money and extreme efforts to tear it all down are peaking together in their present collusion.

“and I wonder why journalists are only reporting superficially.”

They file superficial reports because, as a generalization, they themselves ARE superficial! Their reporting is normally, and almost always shallow, but in tense times such as these, it becomes more apparent. During such times as these, we crave more detail and nuance which they do not supply.

There are exceptions; some reporters do have a bit of depth and breadth, but most are well versed only within their own journalistic discipline and possibly in business (like CNBC) or political science, not other fields.

Most are bright, but not brilliant. Privately, most are either agnostics or atheists. That’s probably better than an evangelical or fundamentalist biased mindset, but that usually means most are also hardcore materialists, firm disbelievers in anything spiritual, inclined to cynicism, hardened by their profession’s practice of reporting on the “dirt” as opposed to the good people do.

What is remarkable to me is that neither in 2014 or the present, have American reporters explained much context to the public.

From 1783 until 1954 Crimea was part of Russian territory. That’s why practically everyone’s first language in Crimea is Russian, (though most also speak and write Ukrainian.)

In 1954 Khrushchev “gave” Crimea to Ukraine as a reward for their valor, bravery, perseverance, and courage in WWII. It was of course merely symbolic, as Ukraine was part of the USSR.

When the USSR broke up, Ukraine, formerly an oblast, a province or state, like in Canada or the US, chose to become its own country. Off and on through history she had been independent. But the Russians think of her as one of their states, albeit a renegade. This is one of the several principal reasons the Russians can’t let go.

Who knows these things? These are very basic facts which all should have been made aware.

I do not recall any radio or TV news networks or individual stations explaining these simple contextual facts to the public, or extrapolating on how shared Ukrainian/Russian history might affect their Russian or Ukrainian thinking and behavior.

To our media moguls it is apparently just another horse race, albeit a more dangerous and consequential one.

SS, what you wrote was interesting and compelling. I just wrote to my friend who lives in Thunder Bay, Ontario, a very bright woman, to ask her for her take on this. I’ll share here if she has added anything to our understanding of the picture.

Eliseo, like I posted before, my brother-in-law spent quite a white in Russia at some point in the last 5-6 years and he came away from his trip, after speaking to people in the Ukraine, and all over, really, feeling that 1) Russias LOVE Putin, and 2) there are many Russians living in the Ukraine and they want to be part of Russia.

Not sure how objective his picture was or if it was restricted to only sections of the Ukraine but he insists that we should leave the situation alone.

(Of course, he can get very stubborn about holding certain positions and even though he is a smart Sagittarian, he isn’t always so open minded.)

O’Toole: America Is Not On The Brink Of Civil War
MSNBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sAQAIM-VVY

Irish professor, Finian O’Toole has an interesting perspective he shared with Lawrence O’Donnell. His definitions are more precise and I believe helpful to think about.

Congressman Kinzinger (see Sharon K’s February 10th, 2022 4:05 pm post) is only partially right. He is correct in saying we might (or might not) have armed gangs fighting guerilla style against opposing armed gangs, and possibly assassinations and other violence. But as I have posted here before, that’s more like what went on in our post civil war, reconstruction period in the South.

All of that is deplorable, but not civil war. What it is, is insurrectional violence. It is defiance and sedition, but does not rise to the level of civil war, wherein two or more sides maintain separate governments, and armies that fight on battlefields, be they actual fields, or urban neighborhoods.

We’ve had such violence before in several US historical eras. Anyone remember the 1960’s? Anyone seen the movie, Gangs of New York? The Labor disputes of the early 20th century?

The Far Right has long entertained fantasies of civil war, particularly between the races. Professor O’Toole suggests we not give these anti-constitutionalist conspirators any fantasy fulfillment, and instead what they deserve, like any other felons.

Sharon,
IMO, your brother-in-law is at least partially right, if not mostly. Many citizens of Ukraine, especially in the NE portions, are very sympathetic to Russia.

Conversely, according to my young Ukrainian friend and fellow grad student when I was in Texas, there are also many who hate the Russians for their brutal rule during the life of the USSR. They see Putin as a continuation of that brutality. Like the Taiwanese, they’ve fallen in love with democracy, the lover the Russian government and oligarchs love to hate.

Your B-in-L is essentially correct in saying we should leave it alone. In any practical sense, there is really nothing we can do. Ukraine is not a NATO country. We can’t intervene on this one, (despite what my Ukrainian friend desires.) We are not going to put troops in Ukraine to directly fight the Russians. That would be really stupid.

Ironically, if Putin invades further, (Russian troops have been in eastern Ukraine since 2014) it will strengthen NATO and the US! It will radicalize Europeans, their fears of Russia confirmed, and NATO will gain at least two more formerly neutral members. Russia will get the precise opposite of what they want. More NATO troops near their western borders, not less!

A full scale invasion would be a bloody mess with heavy casualties on both sides. It would vastly strengthen Ukrainian resolve, and foment a bitter hatred of Russians for all time. Russian and Belarus troops having occupied the country as a whole, would never see the end of a vicious Ukraine resistance movement.

Also, most countries would choose to no longer do business with Russia. They would have greatly alienated most nations, isolating themselves at a time in which they would need the help and cooperation of the world. They do not have sufficient funds, or the requisite technology to properly deal with the climate change coming their way.

Their population is diminishing, 1.7 deaths for each birth. Their ratio of deaths to births is far higher than in any other nation at this time. They’ve got extremely serious economic, social, cultural and substance addiction problems. They’ve lost the existence of most of their best technical, engineering, and science schools. Their list of extremely severe problems seems endless, far worse than what we are experiencing in the US.

Putin will decide. It will be interesting to see whether his decision will be one of the head, or the heart.

Eliseo, what concerns me most is what Colonel Vindman outlined in a news show recently – he said Poland and other Eastern European countries might come to Ukraine’s defense and send troops. That would lead to an all-out war in Europe and we would also see massive energy shortages and all of this might come to pass as soon as this week – hell of a pluto return.

silcominc,
That would indeed be a hell of a mess!

The NATO pact requires ALL other NATO countries to come to aid another NATO country if attacked. It does NOT require the group to aid another NATO ally if they on their own attacked a non-ally nation. That would surely be against NATO command structure protocol, as well as extraordinarily stupid.

But Hey! Col. Vindman knows more than we do! Let us hope the military leaders of those countries are not idiots!

silcominc,
Another thought.
I sometimes wonder if all this NATO/US/UK bluster is to set a trap for Mr. Putin. If he escalates the Ukraine war, it will be a disaster for him. Even if he wins, he loses. If he loses, he loses.

Or maybe a geopolitical game of “chicken?”

If we and our allies keep our heads, and Putin escalates/invades Ukraine, the smart move is to complain loudly, but quietly and gradually increase the number of NATO forces in the area.

As far as energy shortages: If Russia attacks, Biden has vowed to shut down the Russian pipeline that bypasses Ukraine, and goes through the Baltic to Germany. The US alone has enough natural gas for our own needs plus all of Europe for several years. The Germans would not freeze. The situation might also speed up money, research and development of cleaner, better energy sources.

No matter what happens, there may be shortages for a while. The entire world economy is in transition and doesn’t seem to know who for sure she is anymore. We are I believe on the cusp of environmental, economic, technological and social changes bigger than anything we’ve experienced in 12,000 years.

It gives me a sense of hope. I am buoyed when I hear Illinois Republican, Rep. Adam Kinzinger say out loud that Trump was the worst president in American history. That’s a small but good start.

As I have stated I do not think birth times given as being on the hour, half-hour or quarter-hour (especially if given from memory) are likely to be accurate. The birth time given for president Biden is in that category.

Using events in his life I have rectified the 8:30
am EWT given time to to 8:22 EWT.

Using that time yields a conjunction of transiting Jupiter to his White House IC on March 13; that same transit trines his secondary progressed natal ASC and progressed Jupiter.

Perhaps Putin’s position regarding Ukraine will cave then.

https://imgur.com/JGiTlKR

In the Biden-Putin Super bowl I will it be the Biden finesse or the Putin smash-mouth that prevails?

Good commentary, all.

I thin Prof. O’Toole is onto something regarding the far-right fantasies of a Second World War. I have said here repeatedly that they are far closer to running out of steam with Pluto’s impending exit from Capricorn, than they are about to step into a new phase of dominance and ascendancy.

Remember all, the final degrees of any sign tend to show up like overripened fruit. Almost too much of a thing, to the point that it just goes mushy if not rotten. Note that I didn’t put “good” before thing. It is what it is, and what it often is, is over-baked and falling apart.

Much of the Reactionary fanaticism we are experiencing now is at a point of overreach. Even the Republicans, it seems, are finding that they have had their fill of so much bullshit. Who ever thought that a Cheney would rise up to become the voice of clarity and reason amidst all the madness?

And to be clear, she’s not a friend of many of my causes and most of what I believe in. And I can respect her in this one instance of putting loyalty to country over pledging fealty to a godawful traitorous swine like TFG. She will indeed be remembered for taking a powerful, principled stand when so many others made themselves whores for that despicable, disgusting bastard.

As for Putin, I have also said on several occasions that he would get his comeuppance, and his downfall and demise would likely be swift, devastating, and without warning.

He should not touch Ukraine.

This is not the US’s place to intervene in any case, but if Putin goes there, he is sowing the wind and will indeed reap the whirlwind in ways that he cannot anticipate and will not be able to stop, and the US may have little if anything to do with it.

Just noticed I had worked the progressed and transit charts for both the offered and my speculative birth times for President Biden and when I created the chart above inadvertently mixed the transit chart for March 10 with the progressed chart for March 13.

The position of Jupiter for March 13 is 16°59′ Pisces – keeping the chart in play.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/11/americas/canada-truckers-protests-covid-friday/index.html

The gig is up. The fun is over. Now there will be serious consequences to pay if they don’t back down. I don’t think they will liek that but neither did the Jan. 6 clowns.

The events in Canada can be explained by three astrological factors.

First, Canada’s July 1 1867 chart has a tight Pluto in Taurus to Saturn in Scorpio opposition. Transiting Saturn in Aquarius has formed a T-square to both exactly now. Pluto in Aquarius will do the same in less than ten years. Transiting Uranus is also nearly conjunct natal Pluto and opposite natal Scorpio. Last year, this Uranus transit brought revelations about the graves of aboriginal children in unmarked graves near residential schools. It will bring more surprising and unpleasant information later this year.

Second, transiting Pluto is now nearing a square to the chart for the re-foundation of Canada by a major constitutional amendment in April 1982. Transiting Pluto is now squaring the Saturn-Pluto conjunction in that chart. This new constitutional beginning brought an Americanization of the Canadian Constitution by introducing a Charter of Rights and Freedoms based on the American Bill of Rights. Canadian truckers are claiming the Charter has given them unlimited individual rights that allows them to ignore the right of the majority of the people to a peaceful existence, which was formerly the hallmark of Canadian political culture. They are basically turning constitutional rights on their head much like the American far right, although we do not have the equivalent of the Second Amendment in Canada, which has so far meant the truckers appear to be unarmed and nonviolent. Nevertheless, their actions are increasingly seen as attempted insurrection and sedition, and some of their spokespersons do speak of citizen’s arrests and the overthrow of democratic government based on a fantastical reading of the Constitution.

Third, Justin Trudeau’s personal chart is increasingly afflicted by transiting Neptune nearing a conjunction with natal Mars at 29 Pisces on the cusp of his 8th house directly opposite natal Pluto. Neptune is the ruler of his 7th house. Mid-decade, his chart will be even worse when the Saturn-Neptune conjunction of 2026 will be conjunct natal Saturn exactly on his MC opposite natal Neptune. Saturn was conjunct natal Venus over the last federal election last fall, when he felt unloved as he was returned with another minority government. Saturn is now in his 6th house of work and will enter his 7th next year on its way to its own conjunction to natal Mars which will coincide with the Saturn-Neptune conjunction on his natal Saturn. This man is entering the worst period of his life, it could be catastrophic for himself, his family and his country, and it is only just beginning. He is entering a world of pain. Already, when the trucking crisis began, he had to change his residence to protect his family and he was unseen for days because one of his children had Covid. This is symptomatic of what is to come over several years.

Finally, it has not been lost that the overthrow of Allende by Pinochet in Chile in 1970 began with a truckers’ strike.

Thank you for your comments, Andre! Would you mind giving the chart details for the Canada and Trudeau charts you are using? I see online that there are quite a few variations. I would like to compare to the data I’ve tried. Much appreciated.

thanks for your comments professor Eliseo!

Kiwi,
Just trying to be helpful.

BTW, Ukraine is only one of Russia’s migraine headaches.

The End of Kazakhstan | Peter Zeihan
Jan 6, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfcgFL240ts

These folks have come to many of the same conclusions as I have, regarding the possibility of Russia invading Ukraine.

Why Is it Not in Russia’s Interest to Invade Ukraine? – VisualPolitik EN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psm60IUjrEI

Very interesting! Over 17,000 lovers of democracy have come from 27 countries to volunteer into the Ukraine military. They are training to fight Russians. They are not mercenaries. They are men, women, and some are teenagers. Some are from India, the US, Canada, other eastern European countries, etc. In return for their service they will receive Ukraine citizenship.

Gravitas Ukraine Direct: Inside Ukraine’s training camp for foreign fighters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z37HAQTdolo

must be getting serious – nz has recommended kiwis leave ukraine asap and I read US embassy is evacuating

Beowulfie,
The data I have for Justin Trudeau’s chart is December 25th, 1971 at 9:24 a.m., Ottawa Canada.

Regardless of the time, I cannot see how the Saturn/Neptune conjunction could be on his Saturn. In 1971, Saturn had tipped over into Gemini!

Actually the Saturn/Neptune conj. would sit on his Mars in his 2nd house. In Justin’s natal chart, Mars has a friendly aspect to both Saturn and Neptune, so I don’t see a world of pain for him. Might slow him down a little, but I would appreciate your perspective.

Marjorie Orr’s star4cast.com predicts gloom and doom for Joe Biden based on his first term chart. However, she says nothing about the grand trine that transiting Jupiter will be making to his Natal Sun/Venus in Scorpio and Jupiter in cancer come midterm election time. Since Jupiter will be retrograding back and forth over this point, seems to me he will enjoy significant luck for quite some time. Thoughts anyone?

Kiwi,
The Olympics end on the 20th.
Probability: As soon as its over and the athletes have gone home, the Russian and Belarus troops will move into Ukraine. Why the wait? A courtesy to Xi Jinping.

It’s also. when our US Pluto return is almost prrecisely dead on, before it retrogrades.
These Uranus and Pluto returns are uncanny.
Our 1944 Uranus return was almost precisely at D-Day.

Eliseo,

Sometime back we were touching on that issue, whether Putin would wait until after the Olympics were over. Do you recall?

Given the intensity of the US warnings that an invasion is imminent and that it could happen in the next few days, I’m inclined to think that our original assessment and calculations that it could be timed to coincide with the February 16th Full Moon may resonate. Once again here are the coordinates…..

Tr. nodes in t square to Biden’s Sun/Venus placement in January an February. That is something I had touched on some time back. That transit could alter the status quo significantly especially when we hit the February 16th Leo Full Moon. The Feb 16th Leo Full Moon forms a grand cross square to the nodes all at 27 degrees of fixed signs activating Bidens Sun/Venus/Chiron placements (27/28 Scorpio – 28 Leo) in quincunx to the US Pluto/ US Pluto return.

Now we have an added dimension to it. There is an exact Venus/Mars conjunction at the time of the Full Moon (16 Capricorn) in close t square to Putin’s Saturn (17 Libra) and Uranus (18 Cancer). Chances of a blitzkrieg invasion of Ukraine could unfold between the 16th and 18th. Given those aspects I wonder if Putin will have the patience to wait until after the Olympics are over. Does he really care about infringing on Chinese sensibilities?

Jerry,
Thank you for your very interesting analysis and speculation! IMO, a decision to invade would necessarily come out of some very emotionalized, and distorted thinking. Mr. Putin would have to believe the effort necessary despite possible bad consequences. The Venus/Mars conjunction during the Full Moon in close T square to Putin’s Saturn and Uranus might well describe a mental state resulting in the blitzkrieg you postulated.

In addition to the question of Mr. Putin’s patience, there is the question as to whether he cares about the fate of his Russian athletes, and the reaction of the Olympic judges.

If he waits a few more days after the 16th-18th, it might be also because he does not want the CCP, Xi Jinping, or the Chinese people to feel slighted, insulted, or shamed in any way, as he envisions needing them as a supportive ally in the coming conflict with the West they both despise.

Some experts have suggested Putin and Xi Jinping may be coordinating their political and military actions closely. They may be purposefully pairing and timing their moves to limit and minimize the reactions of the rest of the world. (As in “Look over here! No! Look over there!) Knowing the collective resources of the West are limited, they may hope to manipulate and distort our focus. Have we any doubt the PRC government plans on moves we would not approve of?

Jerry,
My last sentence in paragraph one was punctuated incorrectly. It should have been a question mark, not a period at the end. As is, it reads more like an affirmative statement, when I meant it as a question. (…blitzkrieg you postulated?) Sorry for any possible confusion.

A major point of any chart, said to reflect on one’s career, was perhaps disregarded by M. Orr when she focused on his inaugural chart – the MC!

It is located at 26°17′ Capricorn. It holds the midpoint of both benefics of the chart (Venus and Jupiter) at 26°15′ Capricorn. 2 powerhouse planets, the Sun and Pluto, are the most elevated planets in the chart. On Oct 6 transit Pluto stationed in that inaugural charts 10th house right on inaugural Pluto. Additionally, midterm Uranus trines inaugural Venus as transit Sun is sextile to it.

The following news item makes one wonder; does Putin retain an astrological advisor similar to that of Adolph Hitler’s self appointed occultist and astrologer Karl Ernst Krafft? Note the following statement in today’s newspaper……

US President Joe Biden, Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin hold 62-minute call on Ukraine crisis

India Today
February 12, 2022

“……..The US picked up intelligence that Russia is looking at Wednesday (* Feb 16th) as a target date for an invasion, according to a US official familiar with the findings. The official, who was not authorised to speak publicly and did so only on condition of anonymity, would not say how definitive the intelligence was.”

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/us-president-joe-biden-russian-counterpart-vladimir-putin-hold-62-minute-call-on-ukraine-crisis-1912363-2022-02-12

Hitler’s Astrologer: A Historical Novel Based on the True Story of How the Third Reich Used Astrology

by David Bryant Perkins

“The most chilling Nazi weapon in World War II turned out to be so dark and sinister, even when captured by the Allies it remained top secret–until now.” How did Hitler’s war machine always seem to be one step ahead of England and France in the opening years of World War II? Germany occupied Norway in April 1940 just two days before the British planned to. In May, after being totally outwitted and out maneuvered in the conquest of France, rumors filtered back into British High Command that more than German precision military planning was responsible for these successes. The Wehrmacht had somehow tapped the dark forces of the occult under their command!

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18772137-hitler-s-astrologer

A fascinating look into the strange world of astrology in Russian politics……

A Former Astrologer To The Kremlin Now Reads The Political Stars On YouTube

MAR 27, 2021

TATIANA TOROCHESHNIKOVA

https://www.codastory.com/waronscience/russian-astrologers/

When Pluto stationed at 24°19′ Capricorn on president Biden’s inaugural Pluto on Oct 6, 2021 it was also square Putin’s secondary progressed Saturn (25°04′ Libra) and progressed Neptune (23°26′) Libra. There was also a New Moon on president Biden;s Sun that day, marking it as a meaningful day for him.

Something may have occurred that day that was kept under wraps by president Biden’s administration. because of national security.

https://i.imgur.com/f0O8whC.gif

I believe Putin will invade. He is just cocky enough and knows no one can stop him. U.S. sanctions? I don’t know how much damage that would do.

I did not read this article very thorough but it’s a CNN interview with a prof at Catholic U who specializes in U.S. – Russia relations.

The Olympics end on 2/20. The 16-18 is close enough to the end of the Olympics and won’t many of those aspects still be felt on and after the 20th, Jerry & all?

This post from a Democratic Underground poster makes a lot of sense!

Star Member Wicked Blue (3,520 posts)

Another reason Russia wants Ukraine

Official Website of the International Trade Administration
Energy Resource Guide – Ukraine – Oil and Gas

Ukraine has tremendous natural resources for meeting domestic oil and gas production needs, with estimates of approximately 900 billion cubic meters of proven reserves of natural gas. In Europe, Ukraine ranks second for gas reserves. Three Ukrainian regions contain hydrocarbons resources: the Dnipro-Donetsk basin, the Carpathian region in western Ukraine, and the Black Sea and Crimea region in the south. The Dnipro-Donetsk basin is a major oil and gas producing region accounting for 90 percent of all current Ukrainian production. The structure of hydrocarbons production in Ukraine is as follows: natural gas 89 percent, oil 7.9 percent, and gas condensate 3.1 percent. The primary source of hydrocarbons in Ukraine is natural gas, though the most lucrative gas reserves are located below 5,000 meters.

https://www.trade.gov/energy-resource-guide-ukraine-oil-and-gas

Oil is the root of much evil

Sharon,

Technically speaking you may be right. What’s a few days here or there? But as one Tarot reader explained, Chinese/Russian relations could suffer irreparable damage if Putin goes in early, detracting attention away from the Olympics. The sheer impudence of the man will have repercussions. Without Chinese support, Putin will find himself completely isolated. It will be his undoing.

Sharon K,
The Democratic Underground post does indeed make a great deal of sense, but I honestly don’t think it has much to do with why Mr. Putin wants Ukraine. He wants Ukraine back for historical, security, and some deeply emotional and spiritual reasons. As Russia also has great natural resources, the resources in Ukraine are merely a small bonus.

Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine all share an extremely intertwined history beginning with the establishment of Kyivan Rus, over a 1000 years ago. Moscow may be the Russian capital, but Kyiv is their ethno-spiritual center, a bit like Mecca to Islam. Putin cannot bear to allow Kyiv and Ukraine to become a western nation and culture. It would be like Rome and the Vatican suddenly becoming Islamic.

Sharon,
This is a scholarly article we all might find helpful. It was published by the London School of Economics and Political Science.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lseih/2020/07/01/there-is-no-ukraine-fact-checking-the-kremlins-version-of-ukrainian-history/

“There is no Ukraine”: Fact-Checking the Kremlin’s Version of Ukrainian History

“The notion that Ukraine is not a country, but a historical part of Russia, appears to be deeply ingrained in the minds of Russian leadership. Competing interpretations of history have turned into a key ingredient of the deepening dispute between Russia and the West and a subject that Putin in particular appears to feel unusually passionate about.
In this article, Dr Björn Alexander Duben explores the question, is it historically accurate to claim has never truly been a nation or state in its own right?”

Also, here are some quotes from Mr. Putin.
April 2008
“Ukraine is not even a state! What is Ukraine? A part of its territory is [in] Eastern Europe, but a[nother] part, a considerable one, was a gift from us!”

March 18, 2014
Putin declared that Russians and Ukrainians “are one people. Kiev is the mother of Russian cities. Ancient Rus’ is our common source and we cannot live without each other.”

February 2020
Putin stated in an interview that Ukrainians and Russians “are one and the same people”, and he insinuated that Ukrainian national identity had emerged as a product of foreign interference.

In other words, Mr. Putin honestly and sincerely believes, when the Soviet Union collapsed, Ukraine was once again “stolen” from Russia, this time by the US and Western Powers. His sincere belief is we are a criminal organization involved in a dastardly conspiracy to retain sacred stolen property. He interprets Mr. Biden’s entreaties to NOT invade as threats coming from a mafioso type of boss.

IMO, he WILL invade. No economic sanctions, bribes, threats, or gifts will deter him from what he sees as his sacred moral duty. Top Russian economists believe Russia will soon descend into economic hardship regardless of what the West does or does not. In all probability, by end of month, perhaps in just a few days, we will have entered into an entirely new and different historical era.

Nothing about psychopaths is sacred. Not much about narcissists is sacred. Nothing about malignant narcissists is sacred.

Putin is ONE MAN about to make life horrifying and hell for not one other man/woman, or two other men/women, or three other men /women; but for thousands, millions of men/women.

ONE MAN.

One narcissist. One sociopath.

Malignant narcissists, sociopaths, and psychopaths have no empathy. They can do terrible things.

Can we attribute to Putin the attributes of honesty and sincerity? Or can we call it a narcissistic sentiment – at the very best.

He has devalued anyone else’s personhood to that of a nonentity.

He is purported, rightly or wrongly, to be the richest man in the world. He has stolen his countryman’s/countrywoman’s wealth, leaving them a one industry (oil) vulnerable peoples.

He has put in prison the opposition leader Navalny, after failing to murder him. Navalny would be dead not if the world were not watching.

He has murdered his opposition in the UK, and around the world.

I understand that you, Eliseo, are describing the way that Putin would describe himself. However, the rest of us must emphasize that while we would hear this description of himself that he would give us, that we would not RECIEVE it.

Putin cannot be taken seriously for anything he would put out for us to receive.

Putin is a perverted human being and not worthy of our consideration except for his misuse of power.

If he were not a danger to us, perhaps we could recruit him for research as to how to fix damaged human beings…….

Eliseo, I do understand that you are saying that this is what Putin is thinking, rationalizing in his own mind. There is evidence, though, that psychopaths know they are wrong. They tend to hide their bad deeds where possible, but in the case of Putin who has unlimited power in his own country, that doesn’t matter. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Just look at those multibillionaires in North America who started out with brilliance in their field. The present Capitalist system allowed their money to make money. If anything, they are fighting not to become more corrupt than their original natures would allow.

This system of allowing individuals to become obscenely wealthy and obscenely powerful must stop.

We have to become an empathetic healthy society. We have to overcome the forces of evil.

Sunstars,
I think you are misinterpreting me. I agree Putin is a sociopath and “perverted human being.” I’m not attributing any nobility to his character. Being convinced something is true, i.e. sincerely and honestly believing something, does not make one an innately sincere or honest person. He is clearly a thug, a mafia style don who does not hesitate to imprison, poison, murder, etc., or more typically order his underlings to do so.

Having no true empathy, in all probability he can only love in the abstract. I’m sure he “loves” his country, albeit narcissistically. He certainly “loves” (is addicted to) his power. And in order to maintain that power, he embraces certain popular narratives which he convinves himself are true.

DJT does likewise, but in a more disorganized fashion. He makes up a lie, convinces himself it must be true, and comes to actually, or truly believe it with great passion.

“Sincerely,” or “honestly” believing false things, i.e. delusion, is a characteristic of several pathologies. When I worked in the mental health, and the criminal justice systems, I interviewed quite a number of prisoners, many serving long sentences for their crimes. Pretty consistently they delude themselves, “sincerely believe” that most everyone else in society either commits, or wants to commit the same crimes they’ve done. They truly believe the only difference is, they were unlucky, got caught, whereas you and I didn’t.

You and I know that’s not even remotely true. But that’s part of their craziness, their pathology. Such delusional belief is standard crossculturally among sociopaths.

As of yet, we really don’t know how to “fix” such people. But Mr. Putin and Mr. DJT are inadvertently and loudly telling us we are doing a very poor job of keeping such people away from the levers of financial and political power.

For now, our best bet is to pay close attention to what such men believe, so as to anticipate their behavior.

Sunstars,
“There is evidence, though, that psychopaths know they are wrong.”
That may be entirely correct. I think many know in some buried part of the self they are wrong, but that might be only an awareness that society condemns such behavior.

“This system of allowing individuals to become obscenely wealthy and obscenely powerful must stop.”

“We have to become an empathetic healthy society.” 

I agree! Long live the “Viking Economics” you’ve referenced in past postings!

I believe that’s true for many

Putin “can only love in the abstract.” Good explanation for me, along with the writings of your experience in mental health in the prisons.

Sadly the full prisons are another problem of course as we here all know…..

Thanks again Eliseo.

Yes, and about psychopaths knowing they are wrong – “that might be only an awareness that society condemns such behavior.”

sunstars,

“Malignant narcissists, sociopaths, and psychopaths have no empathy. They can do terrible things.”

This is widely accepted as factual in the behavioral sciences. These primitive individuals do not have the same sympathetic physiological responses as the non-predatorial. They are capable of committing atrocities without any discernible elevation of stress hormones, disturbance of pulse, respiration or body temperature. Not only do they not care – it seems as if they lack the desire and capacity to do so.

On another note, I am doubling-down on my belief that there is a palpable sea-change in the U.S. political arena. There is a growing body of editorial commentary that appears to be supporting this shift. Finally the faint, hairline fractures are beginning to expand and degrade the otherwise seemingly impenetrable wall of far-right red solidarity.

Not until recently did I realize that Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky’s prowess lies not in the political arena but in the field of entertainment including – comedy and acting (in spite of his earned law degree). I’m thinking the Ukrainian leadership’s spin that the U.S. media is hysterical is perhaps nothing more than wishful thinking. God knows America’s media is criminally-hyperbolic; but in this instance, I believe our pundits are more prescient and perceptive than those of Ukraine.

I am also of the position that the Canadian trucker’s revolt lacks any credibility and should be handily dismantled with a modicum riot police-intervention. North America (and the the whole globe) is simply too beat-up and fatigued from the damage of the pandemic. Poverty is probably one of the greatest of all forms of violence – and that is what this asinine resistance of big-rig drivers is causing; more economic anemia and poverty! As if our economies are not ravaged enough by historic impingements on supply and flow of goods and services due to Covid. I’m an old, dyed-in-the-wool hippy rebel who believes in healthy democratic protest and resistance; but I’m for Canadian police lobbing tear gas and using some level of reasonable pressure to to dispel these vaccine-resistant regressive-gene Big-Rig Jackholes. I’m thinking they are going to run out of diesel fuel in short order and the cold weather will force them to abandon their otherwise toasty truck cabins. There is a time and a season for everything – and this form of juvenile rebelliousness is not at all resonant with reason.

Andre: Yes I see the opposition of Saturn to Pluto in Canada’s chart. And transiting Saturn in Aquarius forming that T-square.

Looks like we are in for it for the next year or more because Saturn in Aquarius lightly dusts that opposition in October/November 2022 as Uranus in Taurus makes its final conjunction/opposition at the same time. With transiting Uranus playing around (conjuncting Canada’s Pluto and opposing Canada’s Saturn in Scorpio) in the middle months of 2022.

I have not studied Canada’s chart…. This is really my first good look at it.

I notice we made it through transiting Pluto’s opposition to Canada’s conjunction of Sun, Uranus, and Moon between the degrees of 6 to 9 of Cancer.

I’m trying to think of what happened back then, between 2011 and 2013. I myself was quite preoccupied with my life. For one, my brother was facing the fight of his life with melanoma and I was fighting with him. I myself was fighting for survival on other fronts. So can’t remember what happened back then on the social front.

As for Justin Trudeau, gonna study his chart and maybe investigate his prime minister – ship.

Will,
You knocked that ball right out of the park! Good Going! I too detect a slight but significant and positive “sea-change in the U.S. political arena.”

Well written! From one old hippy to another, I’m with you on every single point!

Justin Trudeau”s Chart shows his birthdate as December 25, 1971, 9:27 a.m. in Ottawa, Ontario.

I would appreciate others reviewing his chart to see if Andre’s observations are correct.

I find what he has said unsettling for my country.

Any observations are appreciated.

It occurs to me Putin may be waiting on the weather. He needs it to be a bit colder, with the ground more solidly frozen to proceed with the heavy armament in the Ukraine assault. Having all those tanks and heavy artillery bogged down in the mud won’t advance his cause.

Professor Eliseo,

Thank you for the favourable feedback as well.

Will: Hahahahaha !! Thank you!

I was thinking… oh no… haha that Zelensky’s best service to his country is that he is keeping everyone calm…..

The panic that might ensue might be more negative to them than any further war machine they could produce. It seems they have already been on guard since Crimea…

The specter of Putin’s war machines invading a peaceful democratic country that’s just going about its business, just trying to live, is going to be quite a spectacle for the world to see.

Sunstars, Will,
It appears to me they are better prepared for a guerrilla style resistance. This I glean from a training film I’ve seen for their foreign volunteers.

Anticipating the Ruskies will successfully blitzkrieg their way into the country, their main focus and plan may be to put the bulk of their energy into the post-occupation resistance movement. Russians in Afghanistan, all over again.

Only more visible this time .

Here is a very interesting article – but I don’t think the criticism of the retired generals will stop Putin — it didn’t stop Trump. I agree, sunstars that some leaders (including Trump and Putin) are immoral criminals with various levels of mental and personality disorders as catalogued in the DSM. Then there are those people who are just extreme nationalists. From what Eliseo has written and my B-I-L said, there are people who think the Ukraine belongs or should belong to Russia. I don’t know what the numbers are though.

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/593880-a-retired-russian-generals-criticism-may-signal-a-larger-problem-for

“A retired Russian general’s criticism may signal a larger problem for Putin

Retired Russian Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov, the head of the All-Russian Officers Assembly, has gone public with a statement that calls for Russian President Vladimir Putin to resign over the confrontation involving Ukraine. To remove any doubt as to his message, Ivashov, 78, followed the public statement with an interview on a liberal Russian media outlet, Echo Moskvy, insisting that he was speaking in the name of the assembly of retired and reservist Russian officers which he heads.”

“As Michael McFaul, a former U.S. ambassador to Russia, tweeted: “This is a big deal. At one time, General Ivashov was one of the most respected (and hawkish) leaders in the Russian [ministry of defense]. Russian generals don’t usually get involved in public policy debates, especially ones like Ivashov.

Under Putin, Russia has become an international “pariah,” he says. Its annexation of Crimea is not recognized by credible nations, and Russia is widely viewed as a rogue state because of Putin’s “criminal policy of provoking war.” The massive buildup of Russian troops on the Ukraine and Belarus borders is not to deal with a threat from the West. Rather, it is to divert attention from the internal health, demographic challenges, living-standards collapse and pervasive corruption that the Russian citizenry is suffering under the mismanagement of an incompetent Putin regime.

Adding to Ivashov’s concerns is his fear that Turkey could join with Ukraine in a military alliance if war does break out. That, of course, would be an entirely different ball game for the Russians to confront.”

Wow Sharon. Thank you for that.

I too, have a brother in law of Ukrainian/Russian descent. He denies the Russian part.

More on that later as I have to run.

About Ivashov. What a big deal!!!!!!!!! Holy crow.

Sharon,
I get the impression most of the Russian sympathizers are in the eastern portion of Ukraine. Many Russians moved there during the days of the USSR. But the majority of Ukrainians are increasingly alienated from their former sister Slavs, tired of the decades of bullying.

And now I just read there’s an unprecedented (at least since the Cold War) naval build up in the Black Sea bordering Crimea. I fear Jerry is right and that the invasion will begin on or near the 16th.

By the way, Starlight’s birthday is coming up….

In the course of the collapse of the Soviet Union the Ukrainian parliament proclaimed the Declaration of Independence of Ukraine in the city on 24 August 1991.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyiv

History of Ukraine
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ukraine#Independence

Independence

With the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, Ukraine became an independent state, formalised with a referendum in December 1991.

On 21 January 1990, over 300,000 Ukrainians[47] organized a human chain for Ukrainian independence between Kyiv and Lviv. Ukraine officially declared itself an independent country on 24 August 1991, when the communist Supreme Soviet (parliament) of Ukraine proclaimed that Ukraine would no longer follow the laws of USSR and only the laws of the Ukrainian SSR, de facto declaring Ukraine’s independence from the Soviet Union. On 1 December, voters approved a referendum formalizing independence from the Soviet Union. Over 90% of Ukrainian citizens voted for independence, with majorities in every region, including 56% in Crimea. The Soviet Union formally ceased to exist on 26 December, when the presidents of Ukraine, Belarus and Russia (the founding members of the USSR) met in Bia?owie?a Forest to formally dissolve the Union in accordance with the Soviet Constitution. With this Ukraine’s independence was formalized de jure and recognized by the international community.

https://i.imgur.com/ATnRKtF.gif

The Russian forces need the ground to be frozen to move their military hardware across the border and beyond. They need to avoid the “rasputitsa,” the mud of spring, or their soldiers snd equipment will literally be bogged down in the mire, maybe even “sitting ducks” for the locals.

I took a gander at the Ukraine weather forecast for the next 10 days. The only time the temperature will be right is the night of February 14th, daytime high in Kyiv 42F, low at night 25F. For ALL other days, both the daytime and night temperatures are cold, but well above freezing.

Michael Wolfstar at NeptuneCafe analyses the the current transits and progressions for Putin and Biden and sees a very volatile situation in the coming days/weeks and most of the year. Putin’s progressed Mars is at 18º Aquarius as is Biden’s progressed Sun. Both being activated this year by transiting Saturn and Uranus.

“Transiting Saturn conjoins Biden’s progressed Sun on February 22. Transiting Uranus often brings a sudden change of direction. When it aligns with Biden’s Mars-Pallas square on March 25, the scenario may shift suddenly away from diplomacy and into more aggressive actions.

“The most dangerous months are still ahead: on August 23 Uranus turns retrograde at 18º Taurus, and for three months (July, August, and September), Uranus occupies this critical degree, which squares Putin’s progressed Mars and Biden’s progressed Sun. On October 24, with transiting Uranus at 17º Taurus, transiting Saturn turns direct at 18º Aquarius. This amazing confluence of transits and progressions at this critical degree involving both Putin and Biden points to the huge potential for a prolonged military crisis.”

https://www.neptunecafe.com/newsscope

Time now for this posting 5:40 AM PST, but 3:40 PM in Kyiv. If I’m right, they might begin near sundown in eastern Ukraine.

Another source for Kyiv weather:

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/ukraine/kyiv
Reports
14th Mon. 45/28 F
15th Tue. 45/ 25 F
16th Wed. 46/ 28 F
The many following days and nights are all well above freezing, bad for Russian invasion needs.

Russian and Belarussian troops will have to move quickly to subdue Ukraine. Their window of opportunity lasts just a few hours each of those frozen nights. Mon. Tue. Wed. After the 16th, invasion suddenly becomes less do-able.

I first posted these about 3 am CST this morning.

Three links in 1 post kept it from posting.

“In the course of the collapse of the Soviet Union the Ukrainian parliament proclaimed the Declaration of Independence of Ukraine in the city on 24 August 1991.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyiv

History of Ukraine

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ukraine#Independence
Independence

“With the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, Ukraine became an independent state, formalised with a referendum in December 1991.

On 21 January 1990, over 300,000 Ukrainians[47] organized a human chain for Ukrainian independence between Kyiv and Lviv. Ukraine officially declared itself an independent country on 24 August 1991, when the communist Supreme Soviet (parliament) of Ukraine proclaimed that Ukraine would no longer follow the laws of USSR and only the laws of the Ukrainian SSR, de facto declaring Ukraine’s independence from the Soviet Union. On 1 December, voters approved a referendum formalizing independence from the Soviet Union. Over 90% of Ukrainian citizens voted for independence, with majorities in every region, including 56% in Crimea. The Soviet Union formally ceased to exist on 26 December, when the presidents of Ukraine, Belarus and Russia (the founding members of the USSR) met in Bia?owie?a Forest to formally dissolve the Union in accordance with the Soviet Constitution. With this Ukraine’s independence was formalized de jure and recognized by the international community.”

https://i.imgur.com/ATnRKtF.gif

Good info Bob.
Thanks!

There will be a turning point at the Full Moon in Leo in Canada this week. That Full Moon creates a grand square in fixed signs with Canada’s 1867 chart. It will oppose transiting Saturn, which is itself in a tight T-square with Canada’s Pluto-Saturn opposition. Transiting Uranus is also involved.

According to the CBC, Trudeau will invoke the Emergency Measures Act, making him a temporary dictator. The only other Canadian Prime Minister to have done so in peacetime was his father in 1970. That was a pivotal and fateful moment in Canadian history. Trudeau’s chart indicates this will not be the end of his troubles, but their beginning.

What else can Trudeau do, Andre? The Windsor bridge is cleared but isn’t Ottawa still shut down?

This Russian expert states that if Putin wanted to launch a full-scale invasion, he would have put much great military power in place. He feels that Putin’s intent is to intimidate and force Ukraine to abide by the Minsk Agreement which, for one thing, prevents it from participating in expansion of the West/NATO (if I heard right; I did not look it up).

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/02/14/ukraine-russia-putin-intent-peter-zalmayev-sot-ovn-intl-hnk-vpx.cnn

It is official – President Zelensky has just addressed his nation of Ukraine and that the date of war is now February 16. He will stay in Kyiv as the war begins.

Jan 20, 2025, the day of the US Presidential Inauguration, Pluto and Sun are conjunct at 1 degree Aquarius and in exact opposition to De Santis’ Jupiter. I know Jupiter transiting opposite Pluto can be very empowering. What of Pluto transiting opposite a natal Jupiter?

Silcominc,
I’ve looked for the news you referenced, about Zelensky’s address and February 16. as the date of war, but can’t find it anywhere on the net. Have you a link?

Eliseo,
Here it is from NBC News.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukraine-president-says-told-russia-will-attack-wednesday-rcna16185

Eliseo, I was wrong – it was not an address to the nation. It was a posting online from the President.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukraine-president-says-told-russia-will-attack-wednesday-rcna16185

“Ukraine president walks back statement that Russia will attack Wednesday. Volodymyr Zelenskyy now says the prediction that the attack would come on Feb. 16 was spread by the media and is not an official date.”

Thank you silcominc.
I finally caught it on MSNBC radio.
Everyone seems to be confused by his message. I get the impression, maybe Zelensky himself is confused. He noted the 16th, then backtracked, saying he was being sarcastic. Weird.

It looks to me the 16th might be the better day to invade, from the Russian viewpoint. The below freezing night would aid them with frozen hard road surfaces for their tanks , etc. Looks like all days forward after that are above freezing, meaning soft mud roads.

We’re getting jumpy, aren’t we?
Hahahahaha!

I know, I know. It’s no laughing matter. But you gotta laugh.

Zelensky seems to see the value in that; he’s a comedian. And I am glad of it.

Hmmm….I’m glad he’s not your average president but I think he’d be a little more careful about his statements about an invasion. Ya know what I mean, Sunstars? (lol)

Zelensky made the post and then as you both indicate Eliseo and Sharon, he sort of walks it back – it is all very weird. I

I think it’s a lot like FDR – nothing to fear but fear itself. But in this case, the fear is quite real and based on facts.

I looked at some charts with the Pluto ingress in mind at the end of 2024, I don’t know how to interpret these except for these people having significant aspects at that time with transiting Pluto. Really hope some of you more experienced than I can make some sense of how this could play out.

Elizabeth Warren”s Jupiter is 0 Aquarius and is the point of a Yod from Sun 1 – Uranus 0 Cancer and Saturn 1 Virgo.

Nikki’s Haley’s Sun 29 Capricorn forms a Grand Trine with Pluto 1 Libra and Saturn 29 Taurus. Of note: her Pluto squares the Aries Point and her North Node is at 5 Aquarius.

Ron DeSantis’ Jupiter is 1 Leo (opposite transiting Pluto).

Pete Bittigieg’s Sun is 29 Capricorn and Venus at 2 Aquarius.

Stacey Adams’ Venus at 1 Aquarius.

Andre,

I am curious what you would have proposed that your Prime Minister and/or other Canadian officials should have done as an alternative to what Trudeau did to defuse/resolve the trucker’s revolt. I don’t know much about Canadian politics or the Trudeau administration – but I have a hard time perceiving him as dictatorial.

Thoughts?

Andre,

I am curious what you would have proposed that your Prime Minister and/or other Canadian officials should have done as an alternative to what Trudeau did to defuse/resolve the trucker’s revolt. I don’t know much about Canadian politics or the Trudeau administration – but I have a hard time perceiving him as dictatorial.

Thoughts?

Just noticed that Sharon asked the same question

A gift from Jim Eshelman for for Frank and everyone else too. Links to download the thoughts on the planets by the founder of Western Sidereal Astrology. The interpretations are valid in the Tropical zodiac as well.

“Taking the Kid Gloves Off Astrology”

https://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?t=28

Re: “Taking the Kid Gloves Off Astrology”

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:20 am

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Will, thank you for pointing to Andre’s obvious dislike of his Prime Minister and his country.

Here in NZ the police have been thus far treating the feral wellington copycat ‘protesters’ with a very gloves off ‘appeasment’ approach, which seems to have done little but embolden them. Wellingtonians are getting very sick of them. And the opposition leader is siding with the PM that enough is enough.
Not only Canada, but today the police here too seem to be moving towards taking their kid gloves off.
We’ll see what tomorrow brings.

Will’s perceived “sea change” is real, but those “cracks” he references are not limited to the US. They are worldwide.

Meanwhile:

The Olympics Backfired on China – Disastrous Regret
about 16 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNVUqyeJklw

This is only one of numerous similar reports. I see the failure of the Beijing Olympics as a CCP propaganda effort as part of the global “sea change” Will has mentioned.

If/When Russia invades Ukraine, OR If/When they withdraw, they lose politically either way.

Peter Zeihan comments on Ukraine
14 February 2022 slightly less than 10 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_yotKyLz9Q

I suspect 3 things to manifest as Pluto moves toward Aquarius and then moves through Aquarius.

The weakening of authoritarian movements and
governments worldwide.

Progressive reform worldwide.

A return to internationalism as a component of American foreign policy. (The US has been moving away from internationalism since 1993.)

Another positive story indicating the far right
red wall is developing cracks:

How One Small Town Fought Off A QAnon Invasion
MSNBC Feb 14, 2022 8 minutes 25 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vol30dTcOQQ

Not astrology, but, IMO, Very interesting discussion with Timothy Snyder about russia’s intentions in ukraine
https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/politics-and-more/russias-intentions-in-ukraine-and-america

It’s now 5:04 AM on west coast of the US. Kyiv is 10 hours ahead, 3:04 PM. If the Russians invade, it is likely it will be after dusk during the next freeze, a few hours from now.

Sundown, when we can reasonably expect the temperature to plummett in Kyiv will be at 5:15 PM Ukraine time, less than two hours from now.

Eliseo, Russia may be deescalating. Too soon to be sure but it seems that the US having exposed Russian intelligence about Putin’s false flag efforts, may have had the desired effect.

Here is the article:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/russia-says-pulling-back-troops-084846743.html

https://snyder.substack.com/p/what-is-putin-thinking?utm_campaign=post

Forget it, the attack is imminent. Cyber attack currently underway as expected…God help us all.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/322341

Silcominc,
Could be a feint. I think we will know pretty soon.

A short, but good analysis of the “chess game,” if I may call it that is found here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_yotKyLz9Q

I strongly recommend it.

IF – Putin has really backed down, I suspect four primary reasons.
(1) weather:
This winter has been an unseasonably warm one in Ukraine. A proper invasion, relative to the terrain, needs to be when the ground is frozen hard. The NW border of Ukraine is with Belarus, the NE border with Russia. The Pinsk marsh, a huge wetland straddles that border. It is difficult to traverse in all seasons, but easier in frozen winter. It was absolute hell for the Germans in WWII.

Ukraine’s eastern border with Russia, though not a marsh, is nevertheless a muddy mess except in winter. Invasion with heavy armament requires frozen solid roads.

(2) ALL of Russia’s adversaries have had the opposite reactions they expected. See the video I listed beneath paragraph 1. Russia’s bellicosity united the West as if it were the old cold war again!

(3) One by one, the Biden administration loudly and strongly pre-bunked all of Russia’s propaganda narratives, statements and assertions. They made Russia’s process transparent for all the world to see.

(4) All of the proposed sanctions but one were almost irrelevant. But that one which was useful, was powerful. The united and obviously genuine threat to shut down the Nord Stream 2 pipeline had to have made them think twice. They knew we weren’t bluffing. Even the Germans strongly supported the threat. The Russian Federation is essentially a petro-state. The pipeline is their primary source of income.

All this being said, there’s no predicting the behavior of fools. Russia may yet invade soon, or possibly execute a sudden, unexpected attack next winter. I doubt they will withdraw their troops from the two northeastern provinces they’ve occupied since 2014, and certainly not from Crimea.

When the Russians backed down during the Cuban missile crisis, the Cold War was NOT over. If indeed they really are withdrawing from this Ukraine crisis, we’re still mired in Cold War 2, plus a growing Cold War and gradual economic decoupling with China.

IMO, we will have trouble with both China and Russia until they become true democracies, or conversely if we become a true fascist state. But in the latter case, fascist nations eventually betray one another. They are involved in continual war.

Happy Birthday Nancy from the other side of the world, where its already tomorrow xxx

Eliseo, hard to know what is actually happening. Biden is to address the nation later today and we will likely learn more.

Happy B-day Nancy.

Silcominc,
Now Reuters has picked up the cyber attack story.

Ukraine reports cyber attack on defence ministry website, banks

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-reports-cyber-attack-defence-ministry-website-banks-tass-2022-02-15/

KYIV, Feb 15 (Reuters) – Ukraine’s defence ministry and two banks came under a cyber attack on Tuesday that shut access to the ministry’s website, Ukraine’s information security centre said.

The Ukrainian Centre for Strategic Communications and Information Security, which is part of the culture ministry, did not say who it blamed for the attack, but a statement suggested it was pointing the finger at Russia.

“It is not ruled out that the aggressor used tactics of little dirty tricks because its aggressive plans are not working out on a large scale,” it said.

Kyiv has blamed Moscow for similar attacks in the past, since Russia began massing more than 100,000 troops near the frontier.

A message on the home page of the Ukrainian defence ministry website said it was under maintenance. The ministry tweeted that its website was apparently under a cyber attack and it was working on restoring the access to it.

Oshadbank confirmed the cyber attack saying that it resulted in slowing down of some of its systems. The strategic communications centre said that Privatbank users also had problems with payments and a banking app. Privatbank did not immediately comment.

Reporting by Natalia Zinets, writing Maria Tsvetkova Editing by Peter Graff

I have a feeling President Biden will need to postpone his update on Ukraine for a few hours.

Nancy,
Happy Birthday! May you have many, many more happy, prosperous, pleasure filled, and joyous years.

Dear Nancy, Wishing you the Blessings of great health for you & your loved ones, happiness, inner peace, fulfillment, success on your birthday and always! Thank you for Star Light News!

Brand new video Conversation with Andre Kahr
by Linda G.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EosbkaRdvsk

Bob, thank you for the Eshelman link! Haven’t gotten though it just yet, mostly skipping and skimming through right now but loving his writing style and fascinating perspectives.

Sharon K – Yes you are right – Zelensky should have been more circumspect in what he said regarding the chances of invasion. I thought that at the time and was alarmed. Some critics want him to have a different take on the military amassed at the border.

However I took into account the enormous pressure on this non-politician and gave him the benefit of some doubt. Maybe he had a momentary slip for his countrymen and women, accidently offering them an alternate possibility of what might be ahead so they could better prepare for any and all…..

Qunitile:

I like Andre. French Canadian. Astrologer. Separatist if I may be so bold. And here’s where I must be bold to be true to myself…….Canada, my country needs to be happy. The French, the original settlers of the country got a raw deal…..The British, a close runner-up in the settlement department, won a single battle on the Plains of Abraham (Wolfe and Montcalm) and the British then were the “owners” of the new country.

This was the fault of France, who did not back their settlers in Canada. At the time, France had a lot of irons in the fire. Their French settlers in Canada were not their first concern. Except of course, for the fur trade. France liked the furs and the monies thus generated. That’s as far as it went at that time.

If not for all that, we in Canada might all be speaking French.

The WSJ & CNN are reporting NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenbergnumber has stated Russian troop numbers are increasing, not decreasing.

An interesting video at top, of civilians, Ukrainian shooting club members practicing with pump shotguns, and AR-15’s. Putin has riled up Ukrainian patriotism to the 10th power!

Also further down the page, impressive photo of Ukrainians with enormous, 200 meter-long Ukrainian flag at the Olympic stadium in Kyiv to mark a “Day of Unity.”

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-16-22-intl/h_aa383967e19f5f22642510d5b9508210

I’m developing the suspicion this episode is really an enormous bluff. It seems to me if he was going to invade, he would have done it by now. Bully Boy Putin might keep those troops in place for several more months just to continue rattling the West. The problem I see with that is the expense. Russian treasury coffers are not very deep.

Eliseo, I think you may be right – no war but an active cyber and misinformation war – but not a traditional engagement. Ukrainian troops are getting text messages on their personal phones saying their bodies would be found when the snow melts. Chilling – but this may be the new norm and I expect it will show up here (though we could argue that it is already happening here with Fox and their propaganda).

3 weeks ago I told members in a veterans drop in center that I did not think there would be an invasion but unceasing sabre rattling before the situation was finished.

There have been unceasing warnings by the Biden administration in the media of a possible attack since the build up was first noted.

Sunstars, I believe that Z. was given good information (more than just hearing it in the media) but for various reasons, it was politically & psychologically necessary for him to walk it back.

I’m not sure what Russia is up to and they might not even have made up their minds. Yes, “immense saber rattling”, Bob, but they are not above a false flag incident to make it look like Ukraine started the war. I do not trust Russia and that’s how they like it. I would hope they go bankrupt but Putin has his money sources, I’ll bet, Eliseo, even if it’s criminal sources.

Sharon K,
“…they might not even have made up their minds.”

That very well may be the case, especially considering that with each chess move Putin & company have made, they achieved the opposite result they expected.

And yes. We know Putin is a billionaire.
To quote Mel Brooks, “It’s good to be king!’

Happy, Happy Birthday Nancy! Yesterday right? You share a birthday with a life-long friend and cousin of mine.

With the US Pluto Return now coming into exact aspect, I’ve seen some interesting posts from various astrologers. This latest post by Raye Robertson is very good. She’s written about outer planetary cycles as a tool for mundane astrology before, but this post ties them to the Pluto Return and over the next few years. While the waning (negative cycles) continue over through the Pluto Return time, the negative numbers get increasingly smaller and go positive at the end of 2025.

“As you can see, this Pluto return process began with deeply negative index numbers in 2019 and gradually moved in the less negative direction of –955.00: a process akin to digging ourselves out of a deep hole, while still remaining in the hole. By the time Pluto leaves that 5-degree orb to Sibly Pluto at the end of 2025 (by then having crossed into Aquarius), we’ll actually get to enjoy the beginnings of more positive index totals (81.26). This alone is encouraging—we will have managed to hop out of the hole and to begin shoveling the spare dirt back into it.”

https://www.diaryofamundaneastrologer.net/2022/02/pluto-returns-to-sibly-pluto-cutting-to.html

Bob,

“3 weeks ago I told members in a veterans drop in center that I did not think there would be an invasion but unceasing sabre rattling before the situation was finished.”

I resonate with this. I had a flash a few days ago that much like Trump, Putin pulled this cheap publicity stunt with the time of the Olympics to flex muscle and stir up get revenge upon Ukraine and the West for the bad press he got during the Russian Olympics when he his forces took Crimea but failed to take Ukraine It might be that he’ll continue being a toxic little dick through the end of the Olympics. Such the nasty little pierogi!

Just a hunch.

If my chart for Putin is correct (or close) the MC in Moscow is at or near 22°31′ Capricorn. It would be squared by it’s secondary progressed Neptune at 23°26′ Libra and progressed Saturn at 25°06′ Libra.

This is current.

https://www.brookings.edu/podcast-episode/will-russia-launch-a-full-military-invasion-of-ukraine/

Will Russia launch a full military invasion of Ukraine?

Steven Pifer and Adrianna Pita Thursday, December 16, 2021

Bob,
Good article.
Thank you!

An attempt at a false flag operation?

Ukraine denies Russian state media claims that it shelled separatists, accuses rebels of attack

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEDG_RlUSzksw8uCoVaA8Q9gqGQgEKhAIACoHCAow2Nb3CjDivdcCMP3ungY?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

AND

Russia’s Duma (parliament) voted on Tuesday to ask President Vladimir Putin to recognize two Moscow-backed breakaway regions, Donetsk and Luhansk, in eastern Ukraine as independent republics

Below is a link to a very well done and comprehensive explanation of the Russia/Ukraine crisis. The maps are superb!

Is Russia going to invade Ukraine and what does Putin want?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56720589

A caveat: The article references “Russia”s frustration” the Minsk Agreement has not been inplemented. Absolutely galling! The primary reason it has not been implemented is Russia has done absolutely nothing to fulfill its part of the bargain!

Addendum to BBC article
Is Russia going to invade Ukraine and what does Putin want?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56720589

“The Pentagon has accused Russia of preparing a so-called false-flag operation, with operatives ready to release graphic video of a fake attack to provide a pretext for invasion. Russia has denied it.”

“Russia has also handed out some 700,000 passports in rebel-run areas, so if it does not get what it wants then it could justify any action as protecting its own citizens.”
—————-

WOW!
” graphic video of a fake attack to provide a pretext for invasion.”
That’s like science fiction from not too long ago. In addition to the cyber attacks on Ukraine banks and government agencies, there are reports they are sending threatening emails describing the torture to be experienced before one’s personal death were Ukrainians to “provoke Russia into war.”

This is 21st century technological mafiaoso depravity, a kind of war we’ve not seen before.

Sunday will be the first exact Pluto return in US history. It looks like Russia will invade Ukraine on that day, as soon as the Winer Olympics are over. President Xi probably asked Putin the personal favor of delaying until then.

This invasion will create a world economic crisis which will hurt everyone’s pocketbook and a fundamental realignment of the world political system. It is not yet WWIII, but a prelude to it which is likely to happen in 2026-27. China and Russia will obviously act in concert.

We were destined to go through three inconceivable events in this decade: a worldwide pandemic, a worldwide depression and a world war.

There will be two more exact US Pluto returns in late July and 28 December. It really is a collective near-death experience.

Thank you all for the birthday wishes. What a time we are in. It may be that the tensions with Russia, for now, will lessen after the exact Pluto return begins to wane (although there will be more later in the year.)

Remember that Pluto is experienced as a struggle for ultimate survival, and the battle for our democracy at home seems to fall within the impact of the Pluto return. The seemingly existential battle with Russia for geopolitical stability seems to be manifesting it on the international arena. So maybe, there will be a lessening of the Russian issue as the aspect wanes for the first crossing.

Andre,
RE: “It looks like Russia will invade Ukraine on that day, as soon as the Winer Olympics are over. President Xi probably asked Putin the personal favor of delaying until then.”

I, and I think several others here have considered that as a real possibility, if not a probability. The fact the Pluto return and end of Olympics dates coincide just smells too much like karma.

The Russians keep asserting they have the right to position their troops anywhere they like within their own country. But as the Russian oligarchy asserts Ukraine is rightfully part of their country, (the Russian people really believe this) they are casting it as not an invasion anymore than would be the US moving troops into Missouri.

From their point of view, Ukraine was stolen from them. They don’t see its independence as legitimate, nor any of their other former satellite nations. As a bare minimum, with Moldava, Ukraine, and Belarus under their control, they’ll also want Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia, all on their western border to complete the reconstruction of the geographic barrier they believe they need against the West.

When/If they go for the Baltics, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia, that’s when WWIII begins.

Meanwhile, I find it interesting the Ukrainians are not panic stricken. They haven’t done a run on the banks, nor the grocery stores. But their gun and ammunition sales are through the roof and into the stratosphere.

If they behave as we expect, they will pay an enormous price, and gain the eternal enmity of the Ukrainian people, and of the entire world. Operation Barbarossa in reverse!

Starlight,

Your post is a sight for sore eyes. So glad to read it. I won’t pressure you, but I for one would love to read another one of your wonderful and always richly- prescient essays.

Hoping you enjoyed some merry moments celebrating
your birthday.

I am a latecomer, Starlight, but I would be so happy to read one of your “wonderful and always richly-prescient essays” ……

AND – “Hoping you enjoyed some merry moments celebrating YOUR BIRTHDAY.”

Thank you from a late comer. You have paved the way …….. Thank you again!

We can’t thank you enough.

It’s Pluto Return time indeed. These times do feel quite karmic, and so long in the making.

Happy Birthday, Nancy! Good to “see” you again.

Hi quintile,

“Will, thank you for pointing to Andre’s obvious dislike of his Prime Minister and his country.”

It wasn’t my intention to characterize Andre’s comments on Trudeau or Canada in that manner. I value his voice and was purely curious if he had an alternative solution to the emergency powers that Trudeau had utilized.

US diplomat: Russia likely to have “massed between 169,000-190,000 personnel in and near Ukraine”
From CNN’s James Frater

Russia has “probably has massed between 169,000-190,000 personnel in and near Ukraine as compared with about 100,000 on Jan. 30,” Michael Carpenter, the US ambassador to the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, said Friday. 

This estimate includes military troops along the border, in Belarus, and in occupied Crimea; Russian National Guard and other internal security units deployed to these areas; and Russian-led forces in eastern Ukraine,” Carpenter told a special OSCE meeting on Russia-Ukraine tensions, according to a statement.

Rest of story with more details and explanation at
https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-18-22-intl/h_24a45c8cd6c636196c32d1744dae44ce

Looks to me more and more like intention to invade and conquer, not merely to bully and intimidate. Just my opinion.

I completely agree. Russia has also instigated Ukraine to engage & has announced evacuation of occupants of 2 pro-Russia “states” in the Ukraine to Russia. Someone on DU thinks that is bs & just part of a false flag pr. I feel for the Ukraine. Feels like the Nation invasions in WWIi to me.

Auto correct changed Nazi to Nation

Sharon K,
The parallels with the beginning of the European theater of WWII are certainly there.
The Nazis started by saying they were merely protecting their racial and linguistic kindred outside of Germany. This is one of the ploys the Russians are now using. There are Russian origin people in Ukraine as well as many of the other east European nations.

I believe Andre has it right. The coming war in Ukraine is not yet WWIII, but a prelude to it, much like Hitler seizing the Rhineland and later Austria. WWIII starts if and when Russia invades Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, or Estonia. (Or any of the other NATO countries.

The recent announcement by the Chinese government their navy will participate in war exercises with the Russians in the Baltic sea is probably a “tell.” As the Baltic sea is thousands of miles away from their defensive perimeter, literally on the other side of Eurasia, the committment of the Chinese to such seems absolutely ludricous. It made both of my antennae pop right out of my head straight and tall!

It may be a signal of Chinese support, however minimal, when Russia moves troops into the Baltic nations. I think it is a geographic given. If the Russians invade Ukraine, they intend on taking the Baltic nations as well. But first to reestablish control over Ukraine.

Now “Biden says he is convinced Putin has decided to invade” – and — the protestors in Ottawa are assaulting officers and trying to take their weapons.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/02/18/world/canada-ottawa-protests-news#canada-protest-arrests

Now “Biden says he is convinced Putin has decided to invade” – and — the protestors in Ottawa, who are being arrested, are assaulting officers and trying to take their weapons.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/02/18/world/canada-ottawa-protests-news#canada-protest-arrests

Putin & his compatriots are such bastards. What gives him the right and why now? The people of Ukraine do NOT want to be under Russia’s thumb and what of Zelensky – what will happen to him? I’m beginning to agree with Sunstars that Putin IS an unfeeling psychopath who used to kill or order killings, beatings, torture when he was with the KGB. Probably Xi, Kim & others of that ilk (the president of Brasil) are in on this and support it. Donald Trump probably was also always part of this set-up — the traitor!

https://tinyurl.com/2p8fd5tp

Here is a photo of Zelensky so you can surround him in Light.

I think it sad that Biden, who has done a truly brilliant job on dealing with Russia is in a bit of a bind. If, by saying war will happen be ready and it does not, then he looks silly but in fact, this outing might be the thing that stops or prevents an invasion. On the other hand, if they do invade he looks very smart.

IMHO Putin will do an aerial bombardment of the country and a ground offense in the east. Having heard SWIFT is off the table, I do hope the sanctions have real teeth.

So I did it, Sharon K. I looked at Zelensky’s Picture and surrounded him with light. I felt it for a second…

He needs, – we need – all the help we can get.

We owe it to that probably quite pure citizen of Ukraine who wants democracy……

Sunstars and everyone,

On Facebook there is an amazing group that people join called “View from My Window”. People all over the globe post their views, identify where they are, and maybe say a little about it. Yesterday, a woman from Kyiv posted a beautiful view from an upper story apartment looking down on the city after dark, with the city lights on and the River Dnypro behind it. She wrote:

“Ukraine, Kyiv. 17.02.2022. View from my window. My fabulous peaceful city. River Dnypro and the historical part of the city is in front. My best wishes is for peace in my country ??
UPD I am very touched by everyone’s warm words. Thank you for your support and wishes.”

This really hurt my heart.

Sharon, thanks for referring to the “View from My Window” group on FB – it is amazing! I picture little dots of light all over the world. FB can be problematic in so many ways but then you find groups like VFMW.

I forgot to mention that the views from Kyiv and other Ukraine areas are heartbreaking, beautiful and normal. Besides sending light around Zelensky, take a look at these views from everyday civilian life and beautiful buildings and send light tbere.

Former President Donald J Trump and the loss of the election – in his own words. Spoiler – it is hilarious…..

Sassy Justice – Cheyenne 9’s Coverage of The Official White House Address

Video: 3 min 5 sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_jrebvmPlk

Sharon K,
We’ve known for some time V. Putin is a sociopathic thug. We also know Russian culture allows a level of barbaric, medieval brutality, horrifying to most of us in the West.

Russian execution of convicted criminals is usually done unannounced and unscheduled. The prisoner never knows when their end might come. In some cases they are not aware they’ve been sentenced to death. They don’t hang, decapitate, gas, give them a firing squad, or lethal injection. Usually, an officer is sent to the prisoner’s cell. The inmate is instructed to face the wall with their head and hands touching the wall. Using a 9mm pistol, the officer shoots the prisoner in the back of the head.

A Russian citizen convicted of espionage, or having conveyed state secrets to the West, gets a more gruesome execution. Their hands and feet are tied, their mouth taped shut with duct tape, after of which they are thrown into a blazing incinerator.

Torture is commonly used in their criminal “justice” system, and “unfortunate accidents,” diseases, and heart attacks befall suspects, those formally accused, and enemies of the state abroad with alarmingly unnatural frequency. (For “state” that often means Putin.)

During the Cold War they invaded Hungary, (1956) Czechoslovakia, (1968) Afghanistan, (1979) and as the Russian Federation, Georgia in 2008. How many times have they shot down civilian aircraft? Too many.

Scholars have long pondered why the ancient Romans were so extraordinarily vicious and brutal as compared to other cultures of their time. As we examine DNA evidence from Roman corpses, a growing number are leaning toward lead poisoning as an important factor. Their lead pipe water and plumbing system, lead lined plates, cups, chalices, etc. appeared to have affected them over multiple generations.

What poisoned the Russians? What warped their moral sense? I suspect alcoholism as a major contributor. Centuries of normalized heavy drinking may have deadened their sensitivity.

We need not impune ALL Russians, but their ruling elite has tended toward sociopathic behavior and madness more so than many other nations throughout their history. Ivan the Terrible was only one of many.

IMO, V. Putin, President Xi, Kim jong Un, and DJT are much the same, Trump being the softer, more incompetent version. Chinese leaders throughout their history make the Russian leaders seem like angels by comparison.

Knowing these things, plus the essays, personal history, and specific biographical details of Mr. Putin, I suppose we shouldn’t be surprised by his behavior. Nevertheless, you have a right to your revulsion, as do we all.

As horrible and tragic was WWII, it had a silver lining most still miss. Having to fight overtly and intensely racist fascists focused us, prepared us subconsciously for our next spiritual step, confronting the racism within our own souls and society. Had the war not occurred, I believe we probably would not have had our civil rights movement, many of the leaders of which were veterans of that war. Nor would we have had the ensuing social justice movements for women, for gays and lesbians, the poor, or physically challenged people. The wheelchair ramps we see at public buildings stem from the mentality we developed to defeat the Nazis, and other fascists.

And so it will be again, as our Democratic world has to confront our latest incarnation of tyrannical despots. Before WWII, the fascist Bund movement in the US was an important political reality, just as the Tea Party, and Trumpists are today. As we moved into WWII, the Bund melted away. Perhaps a similar process will occur again. Perhaps our looming struggle against the autocrats within and without our country will purge of us of the need to fall in love and follow such men as Mr. Trump or Mr.Putin. This idolatry of the heart shall end.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/zelensky-attends-munich-confab-despite-us-warnings-russia-may-invade-during-trip/

I just saw Zelensky on CNN. Although the wisdom of his doing so was questioned, he is now at a conference in Munich meeting with Western leaders. He is putting up a brave front and I think it was good that he went, as it showed he will not cower in fear, although headlines state that the U.S. is concerned that Russia may launch an attack while he is gone. My heart goes out to the Ukrainians who wish to remain independent, as they have been so since 8/24/1991.

Thanks for the information, Eliseo. I cannot believe they are so brutal in their execution methods. Probably China is not so dissimilar. We already know about their ethnic cleansing, and we already know about the methods of execution in strict Muslim countries. These are examples of strong, authoritarian dictatorships. Yes, the U.S. has tortured and committed brutality in war, but the proportions are so different. I will stick with the Democratic countries every time and support democracy at every level (although we cannot enforce it, sanctions may be useful).

Les, yes, I marvel daily at the photos posted by the FB group, View from My Window, from every corner of the world, ranging from awe-inspiring to very modest. They have a book on sale now with many of these photos.

silcominc,
I see two different types of people in the world. Those that view compassion as a strength and virtue, and those who think of it as an effeminate weakness and vice. Mr. Trump and V. Putin are quite obviously in the latter camp.

Our president is in the former group, but I think he is pretty balanced, with little to no tendency to misplaced or unwise compassion. I think he understands well the statement from Winston Churchill, “You do not negotiate with the tiger when your head is in its mouth!”

I agree with you, Biden has done a brilliant job dealing with this Russian aggression and manipulation, but I don’t think he is in the bind we might imagine. Mr. Putin has painted himself into a corner. Backed by the “hawks” in his governing elite, he has no choice now but to invade.

Russia is a poor country. Maintaining 40% of your entire military on the Ukraine border is expensive. Were he to withdraw he would look foolish to his hawkish elite, and they would be asking why he spent so much money on this adventure with nothing to show far. He cannot risk loss of position, power, his wealth and most probably his life. He must invade!

I think the military strategy you described, aerial bombardment of the country as a whole, with a ground offense in the east is probably correct, but they are also keen to take and control Kyiv as soon as possible. I have no doubt they plan to kill Zelensky. I hope he escapes to establish a government in exile, as the conflict soon becomes an underground resistance movement, Ukrainian partisans against the occupying Russians.

Only one sanction has any teeth or efficacy at all. Shutting down both of the Nord Stream pipelines. As an undiversified petrostate, that’s their principal source of income. John McCain once described Russia as a gas station with an army. Biden has strongly stated Nord Stream will not be allowed to be operational if they invade. German Chancellor Schotz and the other European leaders are in accord. That won’t stop the invasion, but will drive them into deeper poverty, making military adventures less affordable.

Sharon K,
“Yes, the U.S. has tortured and committed brutality in war, but the proportions are so different.”

The difference is that in their culture such methods and practices are normal and accepted, whereas in ours they are abnormal and illegal. In 1945, German soldiers fled westward, hoping to surrender to the Americans, knowing they would be treated humanely. They knew their fate, were they to become prisoners of the Russians, would not be pleasant.

Ukraine’s president criticizes Western “appeasement” of Putin’s aggression

https://www.axios.com/zelensky-ukraine-munich-security-conference-russia-4f35590e-a9d2-46af-be0e-6bc849283b61.html

“Just putting ourselves in coffins and waiting for the Russian soldiers to come in is just not something we are going to do,” Zelensky said in a Q&A after the speech.

The report with quotes and major points of his speech is relatively short but shows him to be a very clear thinker. I believe his assessment of European appeasement is essentially correct. Here we go again. This is unfolding similarly to how WWII evolved.

A new video from astrologer psychic Denise Seigel regarding russia/putin fwiw
on the darker side of the situation but food for thought imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4oQGqQvUFA

Eliseo, your posting earlier (11:40 AM) is truly brilliant! Thank you. I once worked on a project that documented some of the leaders of the anti-war movement whose focus on peace was formed by their fathers fighting in World War II and the daughters of the Rosie the Riveter’s led the women’s movement.

As for Putin, I guess I never considered him a modern Hitler but viewing him as such and his desire to invade and potentially ignite World War III or certainly reigniting the Cold War with China a significant player.

I assume Taiwan is next?

Or does this war end his rule? I am hopeful the Russian people stand up to this kind of barbarism.

(1) On Friday, Putin called upon all military reservists in Russia to report for training. On the national level he appears to be increasing the number of Russian military personell.

(2) Last Tuesday the Duma, (Russian Parliament) requested Putin to recognize Donetsk and Luhansk as independent from Ukraine. They justified their request, falsely claiming the Ukrainian military is committing mass genocide, attacking Russian-speaking civilians in Donbas.

Silcominc,
Thank you for your kind words.

It is possible this war may indeed end his rule. By its nature, this war will have high casualties. It looks to be a house to house, building to building kind of war unless the Russians decide to just burn the whole country down. With the Nord Stream natural gas pipelines, the primary source of income for the country, closed down, and a large number of young bodies returning to be buried, the citizenry may rise up and take away Putin’s power. If they do, it will probably not be done peacefully.

Upstream, Sharon posted about retired and celebrated WWII Red Army hero, Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov, head of the All-Russian Officers Assembly. He has publicly called for Putin to resign over what he regards as the unnecessary war with Ukraine.
He’s even suggested Putin might belong in prison!

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/593880-a-retired-russian-generals-criticism-may-signal-a-larger-problem-for

I tend to take psychic predictions with that proverbial “grain of salt.” I am well aware of the reality of psychic sensitivities and abilities, but also cognizant of our tendency to wishful thinking, and psychological projection. Under the best of circumstances the best psychic visions are usually very much like a snapshot, images and vibrations, still frames from an unfolding movie. We all tend to be blind to our blindness.

In that context, it is nevertheless interesting, psychics like Linda G. foresee Putin falling precipitously from grace with his own people.

How the United States Should Respond if Russia Invades Ukraine

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/how-the-united-states-should-respond-if-russia-invades-ukraine/

IMHO, A well thought out strategy. A worthwhile read. It is very doubtful Mr. Putin will change his mind. His longrange ultimate goal is to destroy the current world order, and repace it with one comfortable for dictators, autocrats, and totalitarians. If we haven’t done it already, it is time we prepare ourselves for a struggle both colder and hotter than our previous Cold War, and at least as equally dangerous.

Today, China announces another huge default:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-20/china-s-latest-default-warning-takes-shock-factor-to-new-extreme

Wonder if their economic woes might prompt them to pull Putin back from the edge? The blowback of any war will be huge and hit China very hard.

Re Russian/Ukraine tensions

A review and summary of the astrological aspects posted last month…..

Putin’s chart and the transits surrounding the March 2nd New Moon could indicate an arrival at some kind of karmic crossroads when the Saturn/Mercury conjunction (19 Aq) conjoins Putin’s Progressed Mars (18 ’16 Aq) and natal North Node (at 19 ’59 Aq) in square to natal Jupiter at 19 ’44 Taurus. Biden’s progressed Sun at 18 ’09 Aq is there as well.

The March 2nd New Moon itself (12 ’07 Pisces) squares the recent December 4, 2021 solar eclipse degree (12 ’22 Sag) the location of the US ascendant. It forms an exact semi-square to the triple Venus/Mars/Pluto conjunction (27 Capricorn). The Saturn/Mercury conj (19 Aquarius) conjoins Putin’s progressed Sun/North Node and Biden’s Progressed Sun RIGHT AT THE MIDPOINT of this configuration. Here once again is the March 2nd New Moon chart…..

https://cafeastrology.com/events/new-moon-on-march-2-2022/

Whether Putin initiates probing aggressive incursions into the Donbass region of Eastern Ukraine where hostilities have been ramping up in recent days or somewhere else along the Russian/Ukraine border in the next few days, the March 2nd New Moon appears to be the most pronounced date for major conflict.

Europe has not seen this sort of thing for a while.
US tells UN Russia has list of Ukrainians ‘to be killed or sent to camps:’ report

https://thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thehill.com/policy/international/europe/595128-us-tells-un-russia-has-list-of-ukranians-to-be-killed-or-sent-to?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16454247321062&amp_ct=1645424772395&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fpolicy%2Finternational%2Feurope%2F595128-us-tells-un-russia-has-list-of-ukranians-to-be-killed-or-sent-to

Excerpts:
The U.S. ambassador to the U.N. told the United Nations that it has information about Russia compiling a list of Ukrainians “to be killed or sent to camps following a military occupation,” according to a letter obtained by The Washington Post. 

In a letter published by The Post on Sunday, the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. Bathsheba Crocker said intelligence has indicated that Russia would partake in “widespread human suffering” should it launch an incursion on Kyiv.

“I would like to bring to your attention disturbing information recently obtained by the United States that indicates that human rights violations and abuses in the aftermath of a further invasion are being planned,” Crocker wrote in her letter. 

“These acts, which in past Russian operations have included targeted killings, kidnappings/forced disappearances, unjust detentions, and the use of torture, would likely target those who oppose Russian actions,” according to the letter which was addressed to the U.N.’s high commissioner for human rights.

NOW WHAT?

I’ve been thinking about death lately. Actually since Eliseo described how a prisoner who may or may not know he has been sentenced to death, {in a prison cell in Russia) is told to turn around and put his hands on the wall, and his forehead to the wall, and then is shot in the back of the head.

I wonder about me being that person, knowing suddenly I am about to die and die violently….. unjustly…..by some horror of an energy that is from a version of hell and cannot be stopped.

We all know what that would feel like.

Just an hour ago I read that two women were found dead in Vancouver… obviously murdered. You wonder whether they knew it was coming… and felt the terror… – they must have felt the terror… did one see the other being killed and then in frozen horror know she was going the same route…

This is terrorism. Barbarism. Putin has a fine mind for terror and horror.

And the US cannot intervene? And risk their own boys……

I need not repeat as everyone here will understand the question:

What do we do now?

II also read the article of what should be the US strategy for Russia invading the Ukraine.

That was fine up to this point. That psychopath Putin really has gone off the rails. He may know his own death may be imminent if he does not pull this off, so in his mind all bets are off.

Here he is about to have another “talk” with Biden, brokered by Macron.

It seems Putin is going all out in his mindf**k.

At the moment I have nothing more to contribute.

…… Yes I do. The internet has brought us all together. We don’t have much left of “The Other”… We are staring in each others’ faces…..

What happens to one, happens to all…..

Perhaps one of the only ways out of this mess over the next few weeks/months, is by a huge number of people meditating, visualizing calm, sending peace energy. Might not work, but even if each of us can help calm the war energy a tiny bit, dont you think its worth a try.

Yes Kiwi.

Sunstars, Kiwi,
No, we cannot intervene in the sense of placing our soldiers in Ukraine. That would be like Russia putting soldiers in Mexico. That would be WWIII. We would be at more acute risk of nuclear war.

Sunstars, I appreciate your empathy for prisoners in Russia, but we are not them. Let us be grateful our fate has been far kinder. No matter what our troubles, we are far more fortunate than are they. Let us focus then on what constructive efforts we can offer. Meditations, prayers, visualizations of appropriate persons surrounded and infused with light, are of course for those of us in our like minded community. That’s good. I’m sure other opportunities to assist will also manifest.

On the physical level, very practical plans are in place and ready to go as soon as the first soldier or tank crosses into Ukraine.

The only sanction the Russians care about is shutting down the Nord Stream pipelines, the primary source of income for the big red bear. That’s a good one. Targeting the incomes of the individual oligarchs and their businesses is high on the agenda as well. The worldwide banking industry is on board with us.

The US and NATO allies, ALL of us will contribute more troops to the eastern European NATO countries nearest the borders of Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia. That’s to to prevent the Russians from moving further west, and to contain the fight to Ukraine. We don’t want the violence to spread further.

We, (NATO countries plus Sweden and Finland) are already providing intelligence, monies, firearms, and all the latest, most up to date military equipment to Ukraine. Whatever they need, they get, no questions asked.

Russia will be a pariah for the foreseeable future. Hardly anyone will do business with them. Those that do will be heavily sanctioned as well.

The Russians with their overwhelming force will probably take the country as a whole, but that task will be more difficult than they imagine. I’ve heard the Russian soldiers were told they would be welcomed into the country as heroes, but that may or may not be true. In any case, the two sides are not as mismatched as many think; the average young, naive, Russian soldier will be disappointed and horrified when they meet the dark reality before them. Their parents and families will be both sad and furious as their mangled bodies are returned to Mother Russia.

The Ukraine resistance, with enthusiastic support from the world’s democracies, will bleed and bludgeon them to death. This is likely to be far worse for Russian soldiers than was Afghanistan. We are likely to see the bloodiest, fiercest, most intense fighting since the Battle of Stalingrad.

This will be one for the textbooks of military history. Ironically, it will be compared to Operation Barbarossa. Were the great Barbara Tuchman still alive, it would become a further chapter in her brilliant, bestselling tome, The March of Folly.

I am most impressed by how intelligently and competently Mr. Biden, and our allies are handling this crisis. Can you imagine how it would be going, were the Donald still president? As I see it, our man in the White House, so far, is saying all the right things and making all the right moves. He too, needs to be surrounded by light.

It is interesting to note that while we have been focused on Ukraine, Belarus has become more aligned with Russia and thereby creating a wedge with some of the NATO countries to the north (Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania). IMHO I still think Putin will attempt to take over the eastern part of Ukraine but not the entire country. I just hope this partial incursion will not break our alliance and they will move ahead with sanctions.

I say he cannot invade the entire nation because it seems like sheer madness but Putin may be crazy.

I think Putin will have the “break-away republics”, that Russia has recognized as independent in the past few days (I believe that’s the case), do his fighting for him.

Here are a few good articles, much of which is in line with what Eliseo has been posting.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/20/opinions/ukraine-forces-russia-matthew-schmidt/index.html

https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1495788440838983690?cxt=HHwWlMC-ta7qjcIpAAAA

“The ignorance of history has become so great in the United States that even in this moment, where the last hours of European peace fade and we pass through a portal from one era to another, there is barely a ripple in American life.”

The 2nd was a tweet not an article. I’m still looking for the other article I had glanced at this a.m.

silcominc,
You may be right. Their situation is complex.

I see a devious possibility. Putin is soon to make a public address, the subject of which is expected to be the separatist-controlled areas of Ukraine which Russian troops now occupy.

They purportedly have declared independence and are requesting admission into the Russian Federation. I suspect he intends to announce acceptance and formal recognition of the “Luhansk People’s Republic” (LPR) and the “Donetsk People’s Republic” (DPR).

The Ukranian government of course will not accept the transparently avaricious, coerced, and contrived theft of their territory. Whether Ukrainian soldiers continue or not battling the separatists, the Russians will claim they are, therefore violating the sovereignty of the new republics, thus providing the pretext they desire for more war.

In other words, Putin is setting a trap. Either the Ukraine government accepts the theft of their territory and pulls back, or they remain in their trenches on land the Russians regard “legally” as part of their federation, thereby”triggering” the invasion.

If they simply annex by force Luhansk and Donetsk, without further immediate battle… well we’ve been down this road before, In 1938 a certain German leader, having seized the Sudetenland, told Prime Minister Chamberlain, we have “No more territorial demands to make in Europe.”

It is difficult to believe the Europeans would not have learned from that experience. But then again, I’ve long regarded the word European as a synonym for naive.

https://www.cnn.com/?refresh=1 “Putin delivers address laced with historical grievances”

https://democraticunderground.com/100216378708

Two tweets here re Putin’s address:
1) Putin’s going “full rogue” and
2) Putin is making his admiration & nostalgia for the old Soviet Union clear

The Russian “legislative” process is complete. The Duma has agreed and ratified Putin’s request and Mr. Putin signed the document. That means the Minsk agreement, the framework that offered some modicum of hope for peace is completely dead.

Russia officially no longer regards the Kyiv government as legitimate, and is accusing them of massive genocide in the eastern provinces.

Silcominc,
Were Putin to confine his predation to the eastern provinces only, he would retain the option of invading at some other time.

Next step is for the separatist leaders is to formally request Russian troops gather and remain in their new “republics” for “protection.”

Were Putin to withdraw some troops, many will be left behind permanently, as will much of their military equipment.

As for Mr. Putin’s state of mind: He is an idealist, a romanticist with a skewed view of history in his head, and a deep desire for revenge in his heart. You wondered if he was mad, or crazy. The increasing evidence says yes.

During the days of the old Soviet Union, their post-Stalin leaders embraced ideological myths quite different from ours, but they were not crazy. They were rational enough to understand what nuclear war between them and the US would incur.

Gradually, we worked out agreements to reduce that possibility. Mr. Gorbachev in particular understood the science well enough to also realize what nuclear winter would bring. He was reasonable. Apparently, Mr. Putin is not, with his belligerence becoming his dominant political modality.

What a Russian assault on Ukraine would look like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNIU6TRsRzk

Best short video (15 minutes) explaining each probable move and the motive behind it in a Russian assault on Ukraine. Three stages, with several moves within each stage.

The Caspian Report fellow is really worthwhile in all his videos.

Putin Orders Troops Into Pro-Russian Regions of Eastern Ukraine

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/21/europe/russia-ukraine-tensions-monday-intl/index.html

Some random thoughts posted on Jan 30th regarding the present timeline…….

Feb 22rd/ 23rd

Tr. Mars squares Putin’s natal Neptune on the 22nd. The following day on the 23rd there is an exact Mars-Neptune sextile (22 ’12 Capricorn-Pisces) forming a yod (double quincunx) to Putin’s natal Pluto (22 ’43 Leo). It will also be activating the US Mars-Neptune square (21 Gemini – 22 Virgo). Putin seems transfixed by his own rhetoric and whether by deliberate design or happenstance we can easily see some kind of military operation at this time.

Another factor coming into play here. As one may recall, March 21, 2020 saw tr. Mars conjoin the Jan 12, 2020 Saturn/Pluto conjunction degree (22 Capricorn) thus resulting in a world-wide closure of many of the international borders due to the raging virulent COVID 19 pandemic. February 23rd, 2022 has tr. Mars once again conjoining that degree after completing its 2 year orbital cycle. I suspect something major will be occurring at this time.

Jerry and Eliseo, after reading reports of Putin’s unhinged rhetoric today, it is clear he wants Ukraine to suffer as his predecessors had done.

Jerry

Also tomorrow, 2-22-22 is the US’s Pluto return @27:33 Cap.2nd house.

2nd house = $$, business, possessions, what we value. Get ready for a house cleaning in this area, right?

Jerry,
Many thanks for the astro-info. Muchly appreciated.

Silcominc,
Not just Ukrainians – Putin has in past said he wants American citizens to personally suffer like Russians did at the fall of the USSR.
I interpret that to mean he wants the US to fracture and disassemble, perhaps into sectionalism like the 1860’s, or maybe 50 independent squabbling disorganized states. In 1956 Khrushchev said, “We will bury you.” Putin prefers to dismember us.

His stated desire is consistent with the electoral interference we’ve seen, and the red/blue demonization we are experiencing. The Russians are not the proximate cause or source, but they are experts at exploiting minor divisions into giant chasms. I’m sure they’ve really enjoyed fomenting Trumpism!

Unfortunately, the Russians IMO are more dangerous to us now than when they were communists – and Putin, again IMO, is the most aggressive and dangerous Russian leader we’ve encountered since 1917.

You wondered if he is mad. Yes, I think he is mad with revenge. In his mind, he intends to restore the rightful order, to restore Russia to its rightful place in the world order. If I’m reading him right, I also think he is willing to use any covert or overt means to obtain his revenge and objectives, including if necessary biological and nuclear warfare. I’m not saying he WILL use such weapons, but under the right circumstances he would if he believed he could get away with it, or he might narcissistically, in the final stages of losing, choose to burn the entire house down.

Fortunately, our intelligence agencies seem to have his number. He’s coming into focus for all the world to see him as he really is. I am grateful we have a competent, deeply experienced president, and government to counter him.

Sharon K,
Happy Belated Birthday!
May you have many more healthy, happy solar returns!

Happy Birthday Sharon. Hope you had a wonderful day!

Yes my fellow/sister Pisces 🙂

Yesterday, (Monday) Mr. Putin not only signed documents recognizing the “Luhansk People’s Republic” and “Donetsk People’s Republic.” He also signed documents authorizing him to establish military bases and place missiles in those territories.

The ploy now is an unspoken, yet explicit threat to broaden the war, should Ukraine continue to fight the separatists. The message to Kyiv is Russia is now obliged by treaty to defend the two new republics. In other words, if you fight the separatists, we will kill you.

Next probable step, IMO.
Although they occupy a very small portion of the province, the separatist governments will claim they are the only legitimate government over the entire province. Russia will recognize the expanded borders, which will enable them to justify sending troops into the non-separatist area of the province against the Ukrainian army.

Eliseo, do you see Putin moving into all of Ukraine or will this be like Moldavia – where they created a breakaway section – Transnistria and then he put a sizable base there as he will in Eastern Ukraine?

Intuitiview latest comments on putin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHaT63nk_8Y

silcominc,
In a word, yes. It’s not a matter of IF, but WHEN. They will take the entire country, plus additional territory when they are ready. The CIA expects the Ukraine process alone to unfold in 3 stages.

Some context:
Russian geography is pitiful. They have no natural barriers. Defending such a huge country takes more troops than any nation can possibly deploy.

Catherine the Great said, “I have no way to defend my borders but to extend them.” So, that’s what they’ve done in the past. They extended them to physical features which block invasion. This was to enable their troops to plug the gaps between mountain, desert, sea, etc. Unfortunately for them, when the Soviet Union collapsed they lost all nine of those gaps. Through Putin’s “adventures” they’ve regained six of those, but three remain. Two of those, the Polish and Bessarabian Gaps are on Ukraine’s western border. BTW, the Polish one unsurprisingly, IS IN POLAND!

Also:
In the late 70’s and early 80’s the USSR went broke. No surprise – the KGB then took over leadership. They cut spending in a number of ways, but most notably in education. Their science, technical, engineering, and manufacturing schools and colleges closed down in the early 80’s.

Therefore, the last cohort of KGB agents and trained leaders from which they can draw to run the country are either dead, retired, or soon to retire. The youngest people who completed their education before the educational collapse are now 59. The average life expectancy for Russian males is 64. Putin is 69.

I don’t know which date we should calculate the Russian natal chart from. There are several alternatives. Oddly, although we in the US are experiencing our Pluto return, the existential crises the Russians face, make our problems seem petty.
Their population suffers so profoundly from drug abuse, alcoholism, malnutrition, and disease as to qualify for the world’s most ailing, moribund demography. For every birth they have 1.7 deaths. Furthermore, many of them are leaving, emigrating to other countries. Ever wonder why there are so many ads from Russian women wanting to marry Americans, Canadians, Brits, and Western Europeans? Now you know.

Sanctions, possibly save one amount to appeasement. They won’t change Putin’s attitudes, beliefs, perceptions, or behaviors. Control of Ukraine for the Russians is not merely a birthright, but an issue of national survival. The only one which might have some effect would be if the Europeans ceased ALL import of Russian natural gas and oil, Russia’s main source of income.

The question is, how stoic are the Europeans, and can they remain united in their abstention. France is the ONLY European nation prepared for such a circumstance. European winters ARE dark and cold. The US and Canada can supply some of their needs, but not all.

The most recent estimate of the total Russian forces at Ukraine is about 200,000, and is increasing. Putin is calling up reservists, and may begin conscription. Occupation of Ukraine will require most of what’s left of Russia’s conventional military capabilities and will result in massive casualties. Both sides will pay a heavy and bitter price. But Putin believes he has no choice.

If he is marginally successful, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia will be next. In other words, WWIII, which IMO has already begun. In that scenario there is no guarantee that in his desperation he will not use unconventional weapons.

The one caveat is that if his casualties are high enough, their suffering great enough, the Russian people may revolt and depose him. But I have no idea how likely that may be.

note: I derived much of this information from Peter Zeihan, and other geopolitical scholars and futurists.

Why Russia Invading Ukraine Was Inevitable – TLDR News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWT6vuRRXQE

An informative 10 min. video.

Eliseo,

I think Putin has been working his plan against us already for quite some time now. Look at Tucker Carlson and the anti-American/pro-Russian garbage he spews on Fox Noise daily. There’s a joke on social media that CPAC is going to have Putin as its keynote speaker this year.

The US Far-Right Conservative Reactionaries have been compromised at least dating back to the rise of TFG, and their Achilles heel is no less than the superiority/inferiority-entitlement/scarcity complex of so many emotionally and egoically brittle American white men, and all that it entails. These sad deluded fools are literally cheering on Putin and hoping he will succeed in bringing down their own country, cutting off their noses to spite their own faces, just to feel some measure of dominance over their perceived rivals and enemies–damn near everyone else not white, straight and cis male.

In the end, who figured that of all of this country’s enemies, the gravest threat would be our own very worst prejudices and moral failings towards our own citizens? Truly it is a case of united we stand, divided we fall.

This is also indeed the Pluto Return at work, exposing the folly of the entrenched elites and their organizations (Capricorn) who wield the real power in this country (Pluto).

So then, how about we declare a new republic once Pluto arrives in the Constitutional sign of “we, the people”–Aquarius?

I do truly think Putin is overreaching and is badly miscalculating the ripple effects of his decisions. He is not nearly as shrewd and cunning as he desires to be seen as being the world over. It will cost him, and as I have said repeatedly, his ultimate downfall will be shocking and swift, so much so that he will have insufficient warning of its imminence. One day he will simply be gone, and the world will remember him in disgrace, if not in open revulsion.

I know we are all focused on what is happening and as astrologers we know that today is the first conjunction of transiting Pluto with the US natal Pluto. As a reminder for those of you interested, here is the link to first episode of The Changing of the Gods and focuses on the archetypes of Pluto and Uranus, their recent square, their past alignments and their relationship to tremendous periods of change in world history. This link is only good for 24 hours beginning 9PM ET/6PMPT.

https://changingofthegodsseries.com/viewing

Eliseo, thank you again for the analysis. My concern is Putin’s satellite killing technology which he has already threatened to use.

http://www.parabolicarc.com/2021/12/01/russia-threatens-to-destroy-u-s-gps-satellite-constellation/

BuckeyeShadow, yes the Russians have been active in conservative circles since at least 08 with the election of Obama and some have suggested it goes back to the late 90’s.

Here’s a great tweet posted by the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv. The caption in DU said that the U.S. Embassy was trolling Putin.

https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKyiv/status/1496115593149358081?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1496115593149358081%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F100216381461

Frank,
WOW! I’m impressed with the quality of episode #1 of The Changing of the Gods. Thank You!
I regret not having signed up for the series. Can one still sign up? When will episode 2 be available?

Richard Tarnas is one of my favorite authors. This was the first time I’ve seen him on video. I am also reminded of Jeff Green’s, Pluto – The Evolutionary Journey of the Soul, a real classic.

BuckeyeShadow,
I agree Putin is way overreaching, and not as shrewd and cunning as he appears. His decisions are colored much too much by his passionate emotions and false beliefs. I see him as stepping into a black hole, a painful oblivion from which there is no return. He is severely underestimating the determination and tenacity of the Ukrainians.

His timing is off as well. He should have invaded while the ground was still frozen. Slogging military equipment through mud cannot be fun.

Meanwhile, the Ukrainians, having had a bit more time, are that much better prepared and better armed. I am reminded of Operation Barbarossa, Hitler’s ultimately disastrous invasion of Russia. He actually might have won WWII had he left the Big Red Bear alone.

Although I am cautious about psychic predictions, I find it interesting various psychics foresee Putin overthrown by his own people.

Silcominc,
I agree Putin’s satellite killers are a concern. I have no idea whether we have technology that can counter that or not.

Has anyone heard what eric prince is up to of late?

Two thoughts came to me last night.
1) are his thugs still for hire to the highest bidder? and 2) was his or another private organization involved somehow with getting access to whatever technology has been used to target US officials, state dept and intelligence people, resulting in ‘havana syndrome’?
Seems to me if war and chaos is how you make money, taking out the people that try to prevent war would be good for your bottom line.

Prince should be tossed into prison—in The Hague. He is an international war criminal. I suspect that his shady dealings are actually going to catch up with him these next few years.

Eliseo, I was able to sign up for the series this morning, so it’s still available. There’s a popup on the site that gives you a form to fill in – provide email and also text if you want to be alerted to new episodes. I didn’t see anywhere a schedule of episode viewing. You have I think 24 hours to access the episode for free.

https://changingofthegodsseries.com/

Eliseo, I’m intending on watching each episode and willing to post the link here each day for the 10 episodes. Each episode is linked to on their website which Les posted above. The link for each episode is only available for 24 hours starting at 9PM ET/6PM PT, and then they change the link to post the next episode. However, as Les stated, apparently you can still sign up for it.

Frank,

Thank you…while watching the Archetype video I kept thinking of Dane Rudhyar’s Oct.1965 article on the Pluto-Uranus Conjunctions.

Almost 60 yrs ago!

https://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/uranuspluto.php

https://www.astro.com/astrology/tma_article210208_e.htm

An article on Pluto returns in other empires.

Ray Grasse is amazing in his predictions….

I hope America transcends in its Pluto returns in Ray Grasse’s comparisons of, and depictions of, Britain’s Pluto returns….

Maybe we ARE learning from history a little bit…..

Already it seems that we have an awareness of what is happening to us in North America regarding this pivotal time…. it remains to be seen. Already we in general are understanding that Minority Rule is occurring.

I for one will be attentive to indicators of solutions to our current crisis.

The strong democracies we enjoy has allowed for the surprise emergence of the very forces that would topple our wonderful democracies.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

The internet, new in the turn of the millennium, is a double-edged sword. It has taken us by surprise and allowed the dark side of human nature to manifest. This manifestation is ultimately self-defeating, but the egos that use it for self-gratification are not interested in the really long term effects…. They are not interested in democracy or equality, of course…. they are aberrations of our human spirit.

We of course are not human beings as such – we are SPIRITUAL BEINGS having a human experience.

The only thing that will pull humanity out of these horrendous rabbit holes is the understanding of, and manifestation of, self determination of the human on the collective level.

“U.S. warns full-scale invasion of Ukraine could be imminent”

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/23/europe/russian-troops-donbas-latvian-pm/index.html

It’s days like this that I miss Nancy’s read on things.

It’s days like this that I miss Nancy’s read on things.

Found this on a Democratic Underground (DU) thread and it made me feel good even though I detest the thought of war!

https://democraticunderground.com/10142875934

10. Turkey, a NATO country, has several A400 transport aircraft heading for Kyiv right now
probably full of military aid. Turkey is friends with both countries & the president of Turkey is a bit of a nasty sort but he told putin he doesn’t agree with his BS. Its just the tip of the iceberg as far as NATO response, many other countries are doing the same. Its about all we can do as its their fight but the US does have drones flying over the border near russia and you can bet we know everything that putin is up to in realtime.

Sharon K,
Turkey has been supplying Ukraine with many drones. Every NATO country has contributed some kind of military equipment, hardware, or software, and continue to do so.

Sweden and Finland are contributing as well. Though they are not NATO members, they are now tighter, more cooperative with the US and with Ukraine than are France and Germany! Finland will soon receive some of our best jet fighters, the ones reserved for our closest allies. It is highly probable both Sweden and Finland will soon join NATO.

So far over 17,000 ordinary people, not mercenaries, but women, men, and teenagers from 27 countries have been training as soldiers with the Ukraine military. What will they receive in return? Ukraine citizenship. Reminds me of all the volunteers for democracy in the Spanish civil war.

Col. Vindaman said today we Americans have lived in a “cocoon of prosperity” for decades, sheltered from the reality of evil, that we are about to awaken to what real evil is, and can do. He apparently thinks this is what will get our heads straight. He is probably right. When we entered WWII in the 40’s out nutball right wingers finally shut up, most of whom got with the program.

From the sidelines we will probably soon see real horror, and real heroism.

I’m streaming MSNBC on a computer.
I am concerned the Russians will kidnap and/or execute members of the press. We know they will kill many Russian and Ukranian speaking citizens.

Episode 2 changing of the gods
https://changingofthegodsseries.com/viewing

Reported by NBC News:

Putin made final decision to attack @ 3:00 AM Moscow time

Putin began his televised address @ 5:45 AM Moscow time

Eliseo,

Perhaps related to your concern about members of press being kidnapped and/or executed, it has been reported that mobile crematoriums will be following Russian troops into battle.

As photos show the crematoriums hold only one body at a time, what better way for Putin to disappear opposition press or dissidents.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/23/russia-deploys-mobile-crematorium-follow-troops-battle/

Eliseo, you’re made of stronger stuff than I. I can’t watch. Just seeing some of the still shots of people and their animals have me in tears. I’m too old for this coming world, I fear. My heart is too much on my sleeve, and I can’t harden it enough.

ABC News live reported that explosions were first heard in the Ukraine border town Kharkiv (aka: Charkov) beginning about 5:05 am local time.

Transit chart: Pluto at 27 Cap 39′ in the 12th, just above the Ascendant at 27 Cap 47′. Uranus in 3rd house (neighbors) at 11 Taurus square Mercury (news) at 10 Aquarius and Saturn (limits) at 18 Aquarius. Algol in 3rd house, conjunct 4th cusp, at 26 Taurus. Venus and Mars conjunct at 21/22 Cap in the 12th sextile Neptune (deceit) at 22 Pisces in the 1st. Moon in 10th at 7 Sagittarius. South west and north west empty of planets. Brutal chart for start of hostilities.

I truly believe the most expedient and compassionate solution to the evil doings of this one pastey poop-puffed peroghi is to take him out like David slew Goliath. The world is in too much hurt and pain to have to endure this kind of sociopathy. Off with his head!

Leah Whitehorse (Lua Astrology) on a FB post:
“Putin’s TV address re. ‘military operation’ listed as 05:55 am Moscow time on the BBC website – noting all the 5’s -number of conflict! I know there are a few other charts floating around but I’m just going with this one for the time being. Noting massive first house emphasis – Capricorn ASC. My eyes can’t unsee asteroid Lucifer conjunct the Moon (!), along with Pandora! Sedna conjunct the IC suggests this action stems from deep bitterness. Saturn, ruler of the chart applying to a square with the Nodes – this feels like unfinished business – more so with the South Node on the MC too. Saturn of course still in a waning square to Uranus. Venus and Mars coming up to conjoin Pluto again with Vesta – Intense focus on power and control. Always the choice to make love not war but I guess Putin isn’t interested. The Sabian of the MC is The King Of The Fairies Approaching His Domain. Not sure how much Putin would like being described as a fairy king (!) but well, he thinks this is HIS domain. South Node on A Military Band Marches Noisily On Through The City Streets. You couldn’t make it up.

“Putin himself has Uranus opposing his Venus right now which is very descriptive of rebelling (Uranus) against diplomatic agreements (Venus).”

Also, Christina at The Oxford Astrologer has a much longer, more sober analysis, with a 5am chart:
“It bears unsettling resemblance to the chart of the first shots of WW2 (1 Sep 1939, 4.45am, Danzig), including Venus (the planet of peace!) rising in an earth sign, the Nodes across Taurus-Scorpio, Uranus in Taurus, Mars in late Capricorn. Indeed, Mars, Venus and Pluto are currently transiting that WW2 Mars, the planet of war. The current NN is on the MC of the WW2 chart…. There’s no doubt this is an historical turning point and this action will effect the course of the next two decades.”

https://oxfordastrologer.com/2022/02/the-invasion-of-ukraine.html

We didn’t know how spoiled we were in the US and the West, living in a prolonged period of peace and relative safety. Then the pandemic hit, and now a war on the European continent launched by an authoritarian dictator that has the potential to grow much larger. We can only hope that something comparable to the rapid development of the vaccine happens on the political level.

Will,
The actions of Mr. Putin are essentially the same as what so many Nazis were tried for at Nuremburg, most of whom were hanged for their criminal efforts. Post-Nuremburg, “wars of aggression” were agreed to be against international law.

Les,
“We can only hope that something comparable to the rapid development of the vaccine happens on the political level.”

Amen to that! Not only a political solution, but a reliable anti-missile defense system as well.

Mr. P, having “reminded” threatened the world with nuclear weapons has made obvious the necessity of ridding the world of them. It was calculated recently, were the Russian Federation to collapse, ALL of the combined troops of the world would be necessary to enter Russia to secure the 1000’s of nuclear bombs and missiles within their borders. This does not count the missiles on their submarines, or their nuclear torpedos. The necessity of such a large number of troops on the ground would be warranted to keep any and all local Russian mafioso, pirates, terrorists, or war lords from obtaining any fissile material.

Eliseo, Ukraine reportedly asked the US and Israel for Iron Dome technology to protect it from Russian missiles, but Israel nixed it.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-torpedoed-sale-of-iron-dome-to-ukraine-fearing-russian-reaction-report/

I believe the most compassionate action toward Putin would to his swift demise. In a Buddhistic sense, would it not save his soul from the horrific karmic indebtedness he will surely incur by murdering thousands of innocent civilians, bringing heartache and greif, decimated financial markets and massive thermal-encironmental pollution. Like a rabid dog, would his euthanasia not relieve great chaos and suffering for millions of people who live on the face of this planet?

Hmmm….Israel thinks it has good relations with Putin that help it against Iran. I can see the problem for Israel but I’m really sorry that Ukraine was not given the iron dome technology, as, if nothing else, the U.S. could have separately done it. Putin is a snake and not to be trusted.

Meanwhile, people are saying to print out bank records, etc., if you have paperless records because Russia is going to target our banks, etc.

It really makes me angry that Russia has this cyber power that it uses against anyone it wants to. I feel for the people of Russia but hope this is the beginning of Russia’s ostracism and Putin’s downfall.

Les,
Thank you. I did not know that. A tragically unfortunate decision for Ukraine.

Under Putin’s leadership, the Russians developed long range nuclear torpedoes, really unmanned nuclear tipped mini-subs that can vary speed, and lurk off a nation’s coast until ordered to strike. You don’t develop such an undetectable weapon unless you believe you might have to use them. They’ve also developed hypersonic missiles. To my mind, in alignment with his recent threats, these clearly indicate Putin’s willingness to use nukes, or other non-conventional weaponry.

Unless the Russian invasion fails miserably, or Mr. Putin is removed from office, within the next 1-3 years (or sooner) they will proceed to Poland, and/or Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia. Putin will threaten use of nukes upon NATO countries if we do not acquiesce.

Iron Dome missiles intercept and destroy short-range rockets and artillery shells fired from a maximum of 43 miles away. That’s better than nothing, but we need ABM defense and now UBM (underwater ballistic missile) defense systems. I have no reliable knowledge of what secret defenses our scientists and engineers are working on, but IMO we now need to accelerate such projects.

I think it very possible when Putin goes to attacking the aforementioned NATO countries, he will precede the endeavor with either a strong cyber attack or carefully targeted nuclear attack, or both on the US.
We are back to where we were in 1962.

Putin’s progressed Mars is currently at l8 degrees Aquarius, conjunct his north node, squared by transiting Uranus and conjuncted by Saturn. If ever he felt like waging war, it is now. He is 69 years old, fit and his chart indicates super intelligence and a nefarious strategic mind.

Ukraine’s democracy threatens Putin’s autocracy and his biggest fear is being dethroned. He will show his military strength to Ukraine and then like the bullying older brother will stop and try to persuade Ukraine that he has their best interests at heart. What Ukraine and Nato will do then is the tipping point. God Help Us All!

It may not mean anything, but I find it interesting that during the two primary world class crises we’ve had with Russia, the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the present Ukraine War, the US was and is led by a Roman Catholic president.

Quintile – sure seems like you have the right chart – Mars (prog) square tr Uranus, and the same Mars conjunct Saturn.

Not to mention Mars (prog) conjunct Putin’s North Node.

Sure fits.

July 2022 sees transiting Uranus in Taurus EXACTLY – not approximately – square Putin’s progressed Mars in Aquarius, and square Putin’s natal North Node in Aquarius.

In August, that same transiting Uranus in Taurus is traveling up toward conjunction with Putin’s Jupiter in Taurus, although it does not complete the conjunction before it turns retrograde on August 23, 2022 at 18*55′.

I thought the 1950 chart might fit, without examining the progs etc.

I had a hard time seeing Putin as a Libra with a Gemini Moon in 1952….. But obviously it could be indicative of someone who lives in his head……. all that cogitating, planning and organizing…… the strategies…..

Another that fits is if he was born just after midnight he would have Moon in Taurus widely square Pluto.

Moon in Taurus is fixed, and maybe drawn to feeling and sentiment rather than accurate assessment…..

and maybe Moon in Taurus is capable of holding a feeling or attitude for a long, long time……

But in any case, it looks like it IS the 1952 Putin. If so, he gets even more wild in July and August 2022.

So is this his downfall, or the downfall of the free world?

In early April, transiting Saturn at 22* of Aquarius will oppose his natal Pluto in Leo. That could be significant too, but will it be him or us?

For the last 2 and 1/2 years I’ve had visions of
our primary mode of transportation becoming
bicycles and tricycles because of some hardship.

President Biden will impose on Russia various limited sanctions, eventually some of them cyber, which will trigger cyber retaliation. At some point relatively soon, through cyber attack I believe we will be unable to get gasoline.

I have said this before on this blog that around 2012, 2013 (forget exactly when) I was following his 1952 chart – and thought the hard aspects indicated he was FINISHED.

Instead, he took Crimea.

Eliseo – uh oh. Makes sense. I knew I should get an electric car. My close friend and neighbor has an electric bike. They are expensive…. Also have been meaning to get one of those.

Days ago when I posted I visualized all this coming I was struck by the horror of it all…. and could not bear it.

Now that it has actually happened it seems like my emotions have gone into a deep freeze – through no conscious process of my own, I have now intellectualized what I see over there…. and it is them – not me, not us.

What we all do to survive….. I am wondering what the Ukrainians are doing to survive – to make the next right move….

Hope Zelenskyy and his family are out of there – wonder if they left on helicopter ???

Government in exile.

Kurt Eichenwald Tweet: (I believe he is or was the Time writer who astutely covered the Ukraine situation while Trump was (ughhhh) president.

https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1496546909728739335?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1496546909728739335%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F100216391423

“Don’t forget: AFTER he lost election, Trump unilaterally withdrew from the Open Skies Treaty, giving Putin cover to withdraw too. Ukraine begged us not to, because it would rob the west of the best surveillance should Putin invade. Now we dont have it. Another gift from Trump.”
12:06 PM · Feb 23, 2022

Another of his tweets –

Reminder: Trump considered Putin an ally, siding with him against our own intelligence agencies & NATO. He, alone among Western leaders, called Crimea part of Russia. He considered Ukraine his enemy. So get off of this “He would have been tough” nonsense.

I recommend his twitter page for more reading and intelligent commentary by others on his threads –

https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1496546909728739335%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F100216391423

Let’s just make it official. Putin is Public Enemy No.1. He has been all along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNgxyL5zEAk

Whether he has completely lost his mind as of late, or this was his long term game plan, he poses a threat to the entire world. He must be overthrown, tried and convicted as an international war criminal in The Hauge/ICC.

This, or the Russians themselves could always “off” him, which would be the stunning fall and end of a man who seemed so powerful, and even at one point, shrewd, cunning, and invulnerable.

My concern here, however, is that what comes after Putin and his downfall may not necessarily be better for Russia or the world. In fact, it could be even worse.

While long-term energetic trends do suggest that democracy is about to come roaring back with a vengeance, but it isn’t guaranteed to be a smooth process by any means.

You know what struck me today in Biden’s address in so much contrast to Trump’s press conferences, there was a reporter asking all these gotcha questions, Biden said he had read everything Putin had written, I thought imagine Trump ever reading anything that would educate him or give him insight into another leader’s mind, and also he then started to ask the reporter if he had read Putin’s speech or writings, he cut himself off immediately and said ‘No, I don’t want to be a smart guy’ Imagine being so self reflective and not wanting to appear egotistical, I thought wow, what a complete difference to Trump who was the exact opposite, so full of ego, insecure, unknowledgeable, braggadocios and abrasive!

And yet I go for a walk and meet with a Neighbour , a German actually who has been living here for like thirty years, and She tells me she thinks this happened because the whole world perceives the US as weak since Afghanistan, that when Trump was in
Power, at least nothing happened with Afghanistan and Ukraine, I just didn’t even bother really to respond since I realised it would go nowhere, she said she was going to go watch the news, which , like everyone else practically in this neighborhood would for sure be Fox. They are trying so hard to say Biden’s administration has handled this badly but that’s flat out wrong!

Anyway, my heart Is breaking for Ukrainians, and I am Worried for the future of this world indeed. it’s a changed world forever no, no matter what the outcome !

Several major nrewspapers and media outlets are reporting that thousands of Russians are protesting the invasion of Ukraine in several different Russian cities. Many say they are ashamed. So far, over 1700 have been arrested.

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/24/we-dont-want-this-russians-react-to-the-ukraine-invasion?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16457404883637&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fworld%2F2022%2Ffeb%2F24%2Fwe-dont-want-this-russians-react-to-the-ukraine-invasion

Diana,
I’m amazed at such people as your German neighbor, people who suspect something dark amd sinister behind every Biden or Dem decision. Some have actually said the sanction against the Nord Stream pipeline was done so that Biden’s cronies can make more money.

I ask myself, what is wrong with these people? What disorder might we attribute to people who automatically assume that everything done or said by people they don’t like or disagree with comes from hidden, selfish, and possibly criminal motives?

And remember, Afghanistan was the result of Trump. He and Pompeo signed a deal with the Taliban in March 2020 to pull out right after the election. Biden was able to postpone until August. What is becoming clear is that if the trump GOP takes the white house, it will be the end of NATO and a green light to Putin to move ahead with his retaking of eastern Europe.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/595728-ukrainian-ambassador-says-russian-platoon-surrendered-to-ukrainian

They said they didn’t know they were being sent to Ukraine to kill Ukrainians.

If this is true, it’s a good sign. I won’t put too much stock into it yet but this, combined with the Russians protesting, is at least good for Ukrainian morale. I hope it escalates although I don’t want to see good people punished.

sunstars,

Unless malefically aspected, a Taurus moon is usually quite marvelous.

I am sorry you are so deeply traumatized by the present awfulness. Take good care of yourself and know that this too shall pass.

CNN cites US Intelligence reports that Kyiv, the capitol of Ukraine is under serious threat and could fall within days.

That time frame seems to coincide with the March 2nd New Moon we were discussing earlier. Other dates and turning points…….

The March 22nd Mars-Uranus square (12 Aquarius – Taurus) in t square to President Biden’s natal Mars (12 Scorpio). Especially poignant is the April 4th Mars/Uranus conjunction (22 Aquarius) in opposition to Putin’s natal Pluto (22 Leo) and semi-square to NATO’s natal Moon/Saturn (7/8 Virgo).

Russia says “No” to Ukraine Joining NATO

NewsScope Feb 21, 2022 by Michael O’Reilly

In the simplest terms, the military crisis in Ukraine is a continuation of Cold War geopolitical realities: NATO aims to check Russian power. Ukraine wants to join NATO and Russia says ”No!” Looking at NATO’s horoscope, set for when the North Atlantic Treaty Organization went into effect on August 24, 1949 (11:42 am; Washington DC), we can see how NATO has forced Putin’s hand. His primary concern is that if Ukraine joins NATO, Russia will have to deal with missiles right on its border with the West.

With Scorpio Rising, NATO’s ruling planet is Pluto, which is prominently placed in the tenth house. This elevated Pluto is conjunct Juno, the partnership asteroid, clearly defining this organization as an alliance of powers. The New Moon in Virgo is conjunct Saturn – a fitting astrological configuration since Virgo is associated with the armed services.

Continued…….

https://www.neptunecafe.com/newsscope

The Oxford Astrologer (Christina Rodenbeck)

The Invasion of Ukraine
Thursday February 24th 2022
This morning, at 5am Ukraine time, Russian President Vladimir Putin launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

This is a very serious moment. A major nuclear power attacks a sovereign neighbour.

Here is the chart. It bears unsettling resemblance to the chart of the first shots of WW2 (1 Sep 1939, 4.45am, Danzig), including Venus (the planet of peace!) rising in an earth sign, the Nodes across Taurus-Scorpio, Uranus in Taurus, Mars in late Capricorn. Indeed, Mars, Venus and Pluto are currently transiting that WW2 Mars, the planet of war. The current NN is on the MC of the WW2 chart.

Some situations are too frightening for speculation, so I’ve been unwilling to write about Ukraine until now, because the astrology did not look good. However, we are here, at the beginning of the execution of President Putin’s long-held plan, and the worst has begun to unfold. Ukraine’s democracy is a threat to his dictatorship, and he will attempt to bring the country to its knees. Putin says he has no plans to occupy Ukraine: this is not true. Russia has no plans to stop at invading Ukraine.

Putin’s plan is not just to destroy democracy in neighbouring states and reabsorb them into Russia, but to undermine democracy globally. The invasion of Ukraine is part of a much larger strategy. In the past decade, Russia has undermined elections in the United States and Europe, corrupted politicians, manipulated Britain into Brexit thus weakening the European Union, and funded and trolled both far right and left agitators and activists, pouring fuel on embers that were already smouldering. The propaganda war across the internet has been intense for years.

•Refugees
The coming conjunction of Neptune and Jupiter in April suggests the potential for a huge wave of refugees. When these two opposed each other a few years ago, we saw half a million people walk out of the conflict in Syria.

• Nuclear threat
The nuclear aspect is one of the most worrying parts of the astrology. Ukraine has nuclear power plants itself and Russia has an arsenal. By transit, the Lord of the Underworld is currently stimulated by Mars and Venus.

As we are all aware, it is the US Pluto Return. Pluto has, of course, opposed the US Sun and all the other planets in Cancer already, so this has been a prolonged process, but here we are at a crunch point. Pluto represents nuclear energy and weapons. It’s possible that part of the Russian plan is to manipulate the US into a nuclear confrontation. I hope not.

• Land grabs and economic shocks
My colleague Lynn Bell pointed out at the start of the year that the North Node in earthy, possessive Taurus could be associated with land grabs, as it was in WW2 and in the mid 1960s. Taurus/Scorpio is also a financial axis. With the eclipses coming here in spring and autumn we’ll see change.

•Oil, gas, inflation
The cost of living and inflation are coming down the road anyway with the major conjunction of Neptune and Jupiter. But Neptune also rules oil and gas, so expect prices to inflate hugely.

•Street-fighting
Putin has sent his troops into a country where the citizens are armed to the teeth. It’s horrible if you consider Russia’s invasion of Chechnya, which was a bloodbath and continues to be a mafia-state. Mars is making a conjunction to Vesta, the domestic goddess, this morning, which suggests a fight over the hearth. It’s also a fight between two nations that traditionally see themselves as brothers. These are fellow slavs with a shared culture and language in hand to hand combat. That never stopped the gulags, of course. We may also see more women fighting too.

It’s worth remembering that the aggressor in WW2 was eventually defeated. There’s no reason to think this will end well for Russia in the long term, but not before massive damage can be done.

This is a very sad day. I am praying for peace, and hope that the entry of Mars and Venus into Aquarius in early March may lead to some order being restored, but I fear it is too late now: the die is cast. In reality, these two are going to make a conjunction at 0° Aquarius, the degree that is so important in describing 2020 to 2040. There’s no doubt this is an historical turning point and this action will effect the course of the next two decades.

https://oxfordastrologer.com/2022/02/the-invasion-of-ukraine.html

I was fixed on the braking news yesterday and forgot all about COTG so here is the link to the 3rd episode which will be up until 6PM ET.

https://changingofthegodsseries.com/viewing

Does anyone think that the Ukrainian resolve to fight for democracy will have an impact on the Trumpian idiots who seem to prefer fascism as opposed to democracy? I am truly in awe of their determination and resolve to keep their democracy even if it means their lives and contrast that with the idiots who search for child-eating democrats.

Does anyone think that the Ukrainian resolve to fight for democracy will have an impact on the Trumpian idiots who seem to prefer fascism as opposed to democracy? I am truly in awe of their determination and resolve to keep their democracy even if it means their lives and contrast that with the idiots who search for child-eating democrats.

silcominc,
That’s a very good question.

The leaders of Right Wing movements of the 1930’s, the German American Bund, Canadian-American Roman Catholic radio priest, Father Charles Coughlin and others eventually got themselves into various legal troubles, many of them going to jail. Their followers had begun to melt away under the new conscription laws, and FBI efforts, accelerated greatly when Hitler declared war on the US, December 18, 1941.

Our present day Right Wingers are similar in many ways, but also different. As in the 30’s a growing number are either incarcerated, or set for trial as more prosecutions proceed. It is true, many of this crowd admire Vladimir Putin. I too wonder how they will react as the Ukraine war becomes more brutal. Will they cheer at the executions of civilians? Or will they be horrified?

During WWII CBS radio journalist, (a true journalist not just a presenter) Edward R. Murrow, made “On-the-spot” radio reports from London and other locations in Europe. Through his vivid, live reports, particularly in London during the blitz, the courage and tenacity of the British won over reluctant Americans, so impressed were they, as to gradually become enthusiastic supporters against the Nazis.

Edward R. Murrow is gone. But modern technology, cellphones, etc. will record many altercations. I have no doubt we will see Russian atrocities against Ukrainians. We might hope a broad majority of Americans react as in WWII, against the Russian fascists whether our Right Wingers come along for the ride or not.

Thanks, Eliseo. It is the history of the 1930s and how those Nazi sympathizers were further marginalized that gives me a modicum of hope.

I am on the edge of my seat and keep going to the news hoping to see some de-escalation on the part of Russia. The bravery of the average Ukrainian, untrained in weaponry, who is trying to protect his or her home, has me choked up with emotion.

Sharon, I think we are all on the edge of our seats. I have been praying for President Zelensky but this whole war is so unreal.

Here is the link for episode 4 of changing of the Gods and it will be up until Sat 6PM ET.

https://changingofthegodsseries.com/viewing

me too Sharon

How does the whole world allow one no-goodnik hold the planet hostage? When will Israel’s Mossad assassination squad come to Ukraine’s embattled Jewish Zelenski and take down this pint-sized Philistine? I think the Russian people would react like the flying monkeys did when Dorothy took out the Wicked Witch. What is the mechanism in the human psyche that causes us to sit by and let a.maniac like Putin get this far? Seems awfully lame and stupid to me.

I don’t know if I am already on the blog or not.

The USA first Pluto Return
….and the great conjunction
February/March 2022

https://mauricefernandez.com/plutoreturn/

lol…
Left out the Venus/Mars part of the great conjunction.

Will,
I really appreciate your feeling. Your rage and frustration are I think felt by all of us at one time or another. It IS awfully lame and awfully stupid.

“What is the mechanism in the human psyche that causes us to sit by and let a maniac like Putin get this far?”

and the other maniacs as well: Stalin, Pol Pot, A. Hitler, Mao Zedong, Vlad the Impaler, Ivan the Terrible, Genghis Khan, Leopold II of Belgium, Idi Amin, Nero, Caligula, Empress Wu, Qin Shi Huang… ad absurdum, ad infinitum …

It is a very sad but profound question.
I don’t think it is any one thing, but I see the problem as a reflection of our disunity, our several different levels of consciousness and moral development, our differing levels of knowledge, understanding and wisdom.

At base behind it all, similarly but not the same as in Buddhist thought, I see the primary but not exclusive causes of our suffering and madness as addiction and ignorance. And by addiction, I refer to both substance and process addiction, including such things as power and greed.

Although I’m not a geneticist, I have dealt with a good number of sociopaths, and taken their family histories. I can’t help but conclude some people are born with a genetic propensity to sociopathy.

On the practical level, I don’t know that we might prevent such people from gaining financial and/or political power until we can identify the specific genetic and social markers, and develop a universal health system with the capacity to intervene on whatever necessary level.

Meanwhile, I cannot help but echo the psalms. “How long, Oh Lord? How long?”

Sharon K,
I don’t think we can expect a Russian de-escalation any time soon. I believe this conflict will continue for quite a while. In some respects it reminds me of the Cuban Missile Crisis, but unlike 1962, I believe it will last considerably more than 13 days.

The missile crisis and the Ukraine war are the two most serious crises we’ve experienced with the Russians since the end of WWII. I find it curious in both cases, we have an Irish Catholic president having to manage our response, the only two R. Catholic presidents we’ve ever had. Odd karma? Or coincidence?

I too am impressed with the bravery and determination of the Ukrainian people. With each Ukraine news story I read or hear, I become a bit more convinced our intelligence analyses are correct; Mr. Putin has overreached. He’s “bitten off far more than he can chew.” The Russians are fighting against an extremely united and resolute population.

Despite the Russian’s ostensible overwhelming military strength, when we consider the demography, the numbers don’t look as rosy for the Russians as we might think.

Ukraine has a population of about 44 million.
Ukrainian males between 18 and 60 are required to remain in Ukraine to defend or give support to those defending the nation.

44 million – 22.53 million women – 7.5 million children – 10 million males over 60 leaves us with 3,970,000 males 18-60, many of whom, if not most are armed. (One of the reasons the Nazis were so successful in subduing their conquered populations in WWII was the fact the citizens were mostly if not entirely unarmed.)

Ukraine has about 245, 000 in active military plus 220,000 reservists. A factor which skews our results a bit is that there are many highly trained Ukraine women in their military serving side by side with their brother warriors!

Current data tells us the Russians have amassed about 190,000 troops, 1/3 of which are in Ukraine, and 2/3 on their borders. Despite Russian heavy armor, I don’t see how they can prevail in the long run against such determined foes.

Presuming they are successful in taking over the country and putting in place their puppet regime, they will then have to deal with a furious, adamantly disobedient, uncooperative populace, all of whom are supportive of their partisan resistance. Though I believe we can reasonably expect high casualties on both sides, it appears to me the Russians have arrogantly waltzed themselves into another Afghanistan.

5th episode of changing of the gods:

https://changingofthegodsseries.com/viewing

The contrast between the Ukrainian people, their bravery, their commitment to freedom and democracy and to their country with the people here in the US whose big fight is against public health measures during a deadly pandemic for a right to not wear a mask I think shows what a petty, angry selfish and privileged people they are. Their open admiration of Putin and their embrace of coercion and violence in order to dominate and impose their ideology on everyone else disgusts me. I used to fear them but the Ukrainian people have inspired me and now the people I feared disgust me. I know I’m not that unusual in how i feel and I’m feeling a big backlash is in store for each and every one of those traitorous Putin loving insurrectionist and hateful deplorables. Just a reminder to all of you astrologers, the invasion of Ukraine coincides precisely with the US Pluto return and Americans are being deeply affected and inspired by the strength, bravery and the fierce determination of the Ukrainian people to live in a free democracy. They are a shinning example for me and I know for many many others.

Frank,
Well said, Frank. Thank You.

Thank you Eliseo.

This is a clip of a Ukrainian woman confronting a Russian soldier:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2022/feb/25/ukrainian-woman-sunflower-seeds-russian-soldiers-video

Frank,
Interesting video! Particularly the linguistic pattern of insults. Apparently speaking in Russian, not Ukrainian, the woman asked “What the F are you doing here with guns?” Speech patterns confusing our sexuality with violence are evidently not limited to English.

I’m wondering how much of that is a cultural artifact and whether it is hardwired. The portion of the brain associated with sex is next door to that associated with violence.

I’m sure she realized as an unarmed but contrary woman they probably would not shoot her, but nevertheless the confrontation took genuine courage. Russian soldiers will endure a great deal more of this I think, and as the lady suggested, then they will die.

“The contrast between the Ukrainian people, their bravery, their commitment to freedom and democracy and to their country with the people here in the US whose big fight is against public health measures during a deadly pandemic for a right to not wear a mask I think shows what a petty, angry selfish and privileged people they are… Just a reminder to all of you astrologers, the invasion of Ukraine coincides precisely with the US Pluto return and Americans are being deeply affected and inspired by the strength, bravery and the fierce determination of the Ukrainian people to live in a free democracy. They are a shining example for me and I know for many many others.”

Yes, well said, Frank. This puts so much of recent American behavior, both political and personal, in stark perspective. I hope it reaches deep into the hearts of many people in this country.

Thank you Les, and yes, I too hope this reaches deep into the hearts of the American people and because this is happening at the time of our nation’s Pluto return, I believe it will.

Nancy forgot to alert her readers. There’s a new thread up…….

http://starlightnews.com/wordpress/2022/02/new-discussion-thread-7/

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