22nd Jun, 2009

Some Quick Updates

I will be leaving tomorrow to take my son to his college orientation. I just wanted to jot down a few thoughts before I go. I’ll be back by Sunday and may even manage to get my laptop functioning well enough to be in some contact while I am gone.

The New Moon (1Cancer30) in opposition to Pluto (1Capricorn59,retrograde) and semisquare to Mars (16Taurus11) is bringing a huge buildup of tension in the world. This combination of planets brings intense power struggles tinged with ruthless violence. We are seeing an increase in the brutal confrontation going on in Iran, as well as the coming showdown between the US and North Korea over one of North Korea’s ships. In addition, rockets rained down on the US Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan yesterday. Using Eastern Daylight time as a reference, the Moon/Pluto opposition is exact around 4:20 PM on June 22 and the Sun/Pluto opposition is exact by 3:45 AM on June 23. The longer lasting Mars sesquiquadrate to Pluto continues through 6:40 PM on June 23. The latter two aspects will continue through much of tomorrow in Iran due to the eight and half hour time difference.

In both President Obama’s chart and the US chart, this New Moon opposite Pluto and semisquare Mars is quite potent. The Sun, Moon, and Mars are activating the slower-moving transits of Pluto opposite Obama’s Venus (1Cancer47) and square to the US MC (1Libra53) which are quite strong through the end of June. With the US tracking a North Korean ship suspected of proliferating weapons material and North Korea threatening dire reprisals if the US attempts to board the ship, it is easy to see the buildup of the Pluto/Sun pressure in two opposing forces jockeying for control of the situation. At least some of this tension and the associated danger of escalation are likely to dissipate as Mars begins to separate from the sesquiquadrate to Pluto by the evening of June 23. Further dissipation of this feeling confrontation is likely after June 30.

Responses

I wanted to give you guys a new thread before I am off on my trip. I hope to be able to connect from Ithaca, but if not, I will see you on Saturday.

Starlight
You are fantastic, thank you so much for giving us all the warnings. Your writings are more insightful, with each new thread.. Enjoy the trip, take time for happiness with your family…be safe..

Nancy — have a good trip! J

ust wanted to say this: Neda “the calling” — Saturn in Libra starting in October– a calling for justice during the next few years.

DC metro train collision: no link yet, but on CNN. So close to the exact square between the moon and Pluto! Very disturbing.

Hi Starlight, Enjoy your new Hybrid!!

Hi All - I am trying to check in with my lap top which is not set up as administrator of starlightnews. Let’s hope this works. I will be “moderating” myself. If I can make it work, I will be able to check in from afar.

Train crash in DC was at 4:59.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/23/us/23webcrash.html?_r=1&hp

Hi all,, Starlight:: You stated in your Last Thread,,” I feel as if iam Missing Something”" It wouldnt be The Govenor of South Carolina ??

http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/06/22/missing-one-south-carolina-governor-has-sentimental-value/

rc,

Sanford attended one of our banquet functions at the Myrtle Beach Hilton , SC where I work last year, but that’s the last time we ever saw him. Governor Sanford has been known to go on anonymous haitus vacations every once in a while. According to that news article you submitted, his wife isn’t worried, Neither am I.

More intriguing is - where on earth is that North Korean ship going…..

Whither The Kang Nam, North Korea’s Suspect Cargo Ship?

Christian Science Monitor
June 22, 2009

The aging craft, heading toward the Strait of Malacca, is an unlikely player in what is fast becoming an international drama.

Continued…..

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0622/p02s04-usfp.html

And the plot thickens…..

According to the article below, the Kang Nam is expected to dock in Thilawa Port harbour, Myanmar (Burma) in a few days. The timing is significant as it would arrive on or very close to the anniversary of the North Korean invasion of South Korea June 25, 1950. The North Koreans are big on symbolic anniversaries. If that is the case, they may be taunting the US, a deliberate provocative dare if you will. No strong astrological aspects to speak of on the 25th. The US may lose its nerve and not press for inspection…..

Official: N. Korean ship carries weapons to Myanmar

http://tinyurl.com/m9rpbs

RC…Hopefully Gov. Sanford is contemplating his true path in life, seeking good quality time with his soul…….hopefully not the usual Repug scandal thing…..Let him disappear and shut his soup sippers for a few days……We won’t mind a bit.

Starlight, just as I think the emotional level of the world is about to go off a cliff, you provide some grounding information. Enjoy your travels!

LJ…I loved the Kuchina Bee story, Thank you.

lunagardener
aahh, I loved the story too–it was sweet stories–thank you. Found the “book” on Amazon for $3.50 used–what a deal !–so bought it today.
Some lighter reading for awhile??

I think Huff Post said Sanford showed up!

On second thought, here’s something I might have shared with the group earlier, which I have overlooked……

North Korea War Likely on June 24-26, 2009

by Astro Thoughts

Saturn is fast approaching North Korea’s sun, the effects of which we have seen in the past few weeks.

There is also a trine to the natal sun from the transiting venus-mars conjunction that could serve to ease out any military obstacles. This happens to be quite exact on June 24, 2009, so the military action could be around this time.

On second look, it is exact on June 26, 2009, 7:08 am Bangalore time.

As you can see, there is also a yod from pluto and the jupiter-neptune-chiron triple conjunction to the south node. Now, south node definitely indicates war, and with such a triple yod of two transcendental planets (neptune, pluto) and jupiter pointing to the south node, it’s very likely the omen of a World War.

Pluto at 27Cap in US natal chart opposes the south node point of the yod, so whatever is done on this day, the US will be against it.

Charts enclosed……..

http://astro-thoughts.blogspot.com/2009/06/north-korea-war-likely-on-june-24-26.html

Jerry W,

A world war would involve Russia and China, so what are their charts indicating around the 26th? Do they reinforce the above post?

Sagitttarius,

The Chinese chart (Oct. 1, 1950) had been discussed a couple of weeks ago - Natal Pluto at 17 Leo squared by tr. Mars 17/18 Taurus. I haven’t really studied the chart to be quite frank - just a quick glance. Nor have I looked at the Russian chart.

Correction: Revise that to October 1, 1949.

Somalia is falling apart again. Not that it hasn’t been a mess since 91. The Ethiopian invasion’s impact was short-lived, which I suspected at the time would be the case once the Ethiopian forces withdrew and the Islamic radicals reasserted themselves in Somalia as they have done.

It’s easy to overlook major events happening in other parts of the world, while all eyes are on Iran and North Korea:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Somalia-president-declares-state-of-emergency-/articleshow/4689800.cms

Hi Helena, Yekartrinaburg…… Has the Oil reserves……oh, and i Think they have lots of these things also!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY0t_mPv6I4

Thank you, Starlight.

Hi Clymela, wonderful to hear from you.

sagitarrius, here’s an excerpt from and link to the story you mentioned downstairs about what may be happening behind the scenes in Iran.

“A reformist website, Rooyeh, reported that Rafsanjani already had the support of nearly a majority of the Assembly of Experts, a body that constitutionally has the power to remove Ayatollah Khamenei. The report also indicated that Rafsanjani’s lobbying efforts were continuing to bring more clerics over to his side. Rafsanjani’s aim, the website added, is the establishment of a leadership council, comprising of three or more top religious leaders, to replace the institution of supreme leader. Shortly after it posted the report on Rafsanjani’s efforts to establish a new collective leadership, government officials pulled the plug on Rooyeh.

Meanwhile, the Al-Arabiya satellite television news channel reported that a “high-ranking” source in Qom confirmed that Rafsanjani has garnered enough support to remove Ayatollah Khamenei, but an announcement is being delayed amid differences on what or who should replace the supreme leader. Some top clerics reportedly want to maintain the post of supreme leader, albeit with someone other than Ayatollah Khamenei occupying the post, while others support the collective leadership approach.”

So, there are two sources, but I have no idea how solid they are.

http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insightb/articles/eav062209.shtml

Hi Jerry W,,its Sagitarrius…Two rr..one t… (:)

Hi rc @ 3:45 p.m., lol.

Because I misread your comment in the later post I thought what am I looking at, Tom Cruise? Just kidding. lol. I actually think Yekartrinaburg is a good thing…being a lone superpower hasn’t worked out too well for us.

Hi Lunagardener, “Contemplating a Path in Life”
Isnt that the Truth. It is a little too late for that stuff for this Man.
The Cusper Pluto/leo generation will have no tolerence for this group of “Contemplaters”….Remember These Words from History “”"Either Lead, Follow or get out of the Way”"”

Lol, Maybe he is Following The Beees….!!

Hi Helena, You are right , Being the Lone Superpower has not worked out very well for us,Or anybody else for that Matter.

I dont Know Why But i have Had this deepest of deep fillings That Russia and The United States will Unite as One element of Technology and commerce. This Relationship has been long in the making and i suspect it soon to unfold..very soon..

Joy, about the Uranus Neptune conjunction, Rick Tarnas concluded after observing these world transits over a 30 year period, that the operative orbs for conjunctions and oppositions are 10-15 degrees. Please note the correct beginning for the Uranus Neptune transit was 1985 and not 1982.

Rick Tarnas is a historian and archetypal astrologer. His first book “The Passion of the Western Mind” was an intellectual history of the West which was about the ideas that have shaped the Western world view. That book was shaped by the astrological insight that history is an expression of the planetary archetypes and reflect their meaning and character. He chose to write it without reference to astrology for the benefit of a wider audience. However, his second book “Cosmos and Psyche” covers the same ground as the first, but from the astrological perspective.

Helena,

Fascinating stuff. I had no idea how deep the divisions were inside the religious cleric’s political structure. Ayatollah Khamanei’s grip on power seemed so formidable! If there is indeed a major power struggle going on, that would explain the Pentagon’s concern for those Iranian air drill exercises in the Gulf. More details below……

U.S. Navy Hangs Back in Persian Gulf as Questions Mount About Defecting Iranian Revolutionary Guard

FOXNews
June 22, 2009

The U.S. Department of Defense is “on edge” over the turmoil in Iran, and has directed U.S. naval assets in the Persian Gulf to be, in layman’s terms, in “non-incident mode,” military officials told FOX News Monday.

Meanwhile, the former crown prince of Iran contended that members of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard are showing “discontent” and some are “contemplating the contingency” of defying the regime in the wake of the Islamic Republic’s disputed presidential election.

U.S. military commanders are said to have been instructed to be alert to any possibility of a clash with Iranian naval assets, and to position themselves in such a way as to diminish the ability of Iran to stage an incident, however small, that could be used to rally the support of the Iranian people to the regime and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose backers are accused of voter fraud in the national election 10 days ago.

A Defense Department official told FOX News that U.S. Central Command has sent a message to all Navy service members in the Persian Gulf region that they are “expected to conduct themselves in a professional manner and to avoid any unnecessary escalation or confrontation” with Iranian ships or other military assets.

“Given the heightened sensitivities in Tehran we don’t want to feed into what is already a very tense situation on their side,” the official said.

Continued……

http://tinyurl.com/ktghw8

rc,

Spelling of Sag. noted. It’s called - dotting ones r’s and crossing ones t’s

rc..as a Sag rising type of person I refuse to believe it is never to late for folks to choose a higher path….

Sending Loving thoughts to all those who are quaking in their boot’s at the thought of change…follow the buzzing bee’s!

And if Bee’s aren’t ya thing…follow the dolphins….or maybe even those strange escapee tropic birds that visited me for the solstice….We live in a beautiful and multidimensional synchronistic world. I am so glad to be a part of it.

I didn’t enjoy the fighter pilot video…. although I love the interconnectedness of this diverse world and all it’s creations. Miracles everywhere I look these days. Hmmm…maybe too much Neptune going on in my rosy little world. Picture goat mommies and their babies, prancing in the meadow….and starlight watching her son leave the nest….All is well and as it should be.

Re-Posted
Rafsanjani Center of Fight Within Political Elite

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/22/world/middleeast/22rafsanjani.html?_r=1

Hi Lunagardner, I a sag rising also, agree it is never to late to find ones higher path.,,well said.
Yes all is interconnected and nothing happens by accident,Thus your world is special for a reason…..a very special reason.
Your land has shown a light.. Watch for the Eagle.

Iran–Livestream??

http://www.livestream.com/persianq?origin=embedplayer

From the daily beast
Iran on Strike Tuesday

http://www.breakingtweets.com/2009/06/22/national-strike-called-for-tuesday-in-iran/

Iran Military Charging a “Bullit Fee”–to families to retrieve Their Bodies!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-06-10/iran-chooses-a-president?cid=hp:mainpromo1

Reza Pahlavi—Shah’s Son–Video

http://www.cspan.org/

Updates on Neda, Symbol of a Revolution

http://tinyurl.com/nkk6xl

More Beautiful You/ A Song In Memory of Neda Soltan (dedicated to all young women trying to find their self-expression)……….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI_YG40uEDk

LJ, interesting article on Rafsanjani. Thanks!

“Miracles everywhere I look these days.” lunagardener

Democracy: MADE in Iran/ no foreign intervention?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/jun/19/iran-protests-mousavi-mossadeq

Amazing?
Thurs–U.S. Rally for Accountability and Torture

http://accountability4torture.com/

Thurs. in Iran another Big Rally called for

Jingoism Isn’t Journalism–Why I do Not Trust CNN and Corp Media Covering Iran……………..

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/43839

Helena,

Thanks so much for the source in your 7:01 post. I scoured the Internet wondering why I could not find anything after I heard the radio news broadcast.

LJ,

Thank you too for your 10:31 re-post. I missed your first post link. If I had seen it, I would have saved myself some time.

Jerry W,

The big question tomorrow: What is Obama going to do about the Korean ship? I believe the President has a news conference tomorrow. Should be interesting.

Maybe this is something you should ponder on/about and make the correlation to today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince

The theories expressed in The Prince describe methods that an aspiring prince can use to acquire the throne, or an existing prince can use to maintain his reign. According to Machiavelli, the greatest moral good is a virtuous and stable state, and actions to protect the country are therefore justified even if they are cruel. Machiavelli strongly suggests, however, that the prince must not be hated.

Hi Charles,

It you’re referring to Iran’s brutal crackdown on the peaceful demonstrations…… Shooting, injuring and in some cases killing unarmed civillians, suggesting that the end justifies the means, I would have to strongly disagree. The ruling elite are oppressive to the extreme. There’s no democracy there. Corruption is rampant, power is ruled by decree, not by unanimous consensus. In a word they are terribly out of touch with the needs of the people. They rule by fear and extreme, violent measures. I don’t see anything benign about the current regime.

Hi Sagitarrius,

Tr. Pluto is once again making its inexorable, intense opposition to Obama’s natal Venus in its retrograde trajectory. He may decide to make a bold, rational decision to follow the rule of law and order US naval forces to interdict the ship. Failure to do so, would indicate weakness to the North Koreans. And when they do (ironically the USS John McCain destroyer would be involved in this operation) - God help us all.

Charles - typo alert. Read: “IF you’re referring to……”

Korea Warns Ships Of Impending Drill

Japan: Email says N. Korea plans drill northeast of Wonsan from June 25 to July 10

Dates correspond to timeframe cited by Japanese media for possible missile launch

North issued similar notice before testing long-range rocket in April

(CNN) — North Korea is warning the world to stay out of part of its eastern waters for 16 days, starting Thursday, saying it will hold a military drill, Japanese officials said.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Il, center, as seen at Wonsan University of Agriculture in an undated photo

North Korea’s hydrographic department e-mailed Japan’s coast guard Monday, according to coast guard spokesman Shinya Suzuki. Japan monitors that part of the region’s waters.

North Korea plans to hold military shooting practice in the waters northeast of Wonsan, on the country’s eastern coast, from June 25 to July 10, according to the e-mail, Suzuki said.

The reclusive communist nation did not specify consequences of ships entering those waters during the drill, but the dates fall within the timeframe cited by Japanese media last week for a possible North Korea missile launch toward Hawaii.

The North issued a similar notice before it tested a long-range rocket in April.

Continued……

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/06/23/nkorea.warning/

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US Military Strike At North Korean Vessel Would Send Tehran A Strong Signal

DEBKAfile Special Report
June 23, 2009

Suspect North Korean vessel Kang Nam
While carefully choosing his words on Iran’s protest movement against the Islamic regime, US president Barack Obama appears to be on course for a military showdown with North Korea, Iran and Syria’s nuclear collaborator. “This administration and our military,” he said, “is fully prepared for any contingencies.”

Military sources in Japan and South Korea report US satellites and the guided-missile destroyer USS John S. McCain are shadowing a North Korean vessel suspected of carrying weapons for Myanmar. Their target is currently 322 kilometers south of Shanghai. It is expected to make its way through the Strait of Malacca for possible refueling in Singapore.

Pyongyang has threatened a military response if its ships are intercepted and searched under the latest round of UN Security Council sanctions. Sunday, June 21, North Korea’s official Tongil Sinbo said of the South Korean president Lee Myung-bak’s talks last week with president Obama that “The US-touted provision of “extended deterrence, including a nuclear umbrella” [for South Korea] is nothing but a “nuclear war plan.”

DEBKAfile’s military sources report that no official in Washington, Seoul or Tokyo can say whether the US and North Korea are heading for a naval clash, a limited air engagement or possibly a small incident that could get out of hand and blow up into a major encounter.

While ruling out a nuclear conflict, none of the three parties involved can promise tactical ordinance such as artillery shells and mines will not be used at some point.

The UN Security Council resolution of Friday, June 12 mandated sanctions, approved at Washington’s behest, that authorize UN member nations’ naval vessels to stop and search North Korean ships suspected of carrying nuclear materials.

Pyongyang said this measure would be deemed an act of war on the Korean peninsula and draw a “thousand fold” military retaliation.

However, at stake for the United States is a far larger issue, DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s Washington sources report: It relates to America’s standing as the leading nuclear superpower and guardian of the global nuclear order. In this sense, the Korean crisis confronts Barack Obama with a supreme test as US president with major ramifications for the Iranian program.

This goes to the motivation behind Kim Jong-Il’s nuke-rattling, his decisions not only to unveil the appointment of his 26-year old son Kim Jong-Un as his successor, but most of all to take the lead in creating a bloc of nations willing to shake the United States on this pedestal.

Obama’s non-confrontational stance on the Iran crisis obliges him to apply muscle to the Security Council’s sanctions against Pyongyang - or lay himself open to criticism for being soft on both nuclear rogue states. This would disarm in advance any penalties the UN might impose on Iran for its nuclear violations.

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6148

Goodmorning, This may a little off topic, But this has peaked my interest. What are These Signals?

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-06/23/content_11588984.htm

Iran Crisis and Fourth Generation Warfare

Fourth Generation theory warns that when a government loses its legitimacy and attempts to retain power by naked force, it weakens the state itself. Iran has been a relatively stable state. But there is no guarantee it will remain so. Iran includes many different ethnic groups, not just Persians. If the opposition, which is loyal to the Iranian state, is suppressed by force, Iranians may start to transfer their loyalty away from the state.

http://original.antiwar.com/lind/2009/06/22/the-iran-crisis-and-4th-generation-warfare/

Jerry W
Helena
Sagitarrius
Thank you all for the wonderful astro knowledge you bring here, and for keeping us ahead of all the crisis. I have learned so much from all of you, and of course Starlight. But you all make this an exciting, knowlegeable blog. I appreciate all the insight you bring here, and that you prove how important astrology is to our lives. Thank you all, for your dedication….

Hi Lunagardner,, The Trail,, will be hard to follow !!

Govenor Sanford is on Safari. What the heck is going on out there…

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/1109689.html

Obama is expected to have more to say about the situation in Iran during a press conference scheduled for midday Tuesday.

The Neo-Cons/Right Wingers are such a stupid,
divisive element in this country. And keep tearing down any progress, we try and make.
“Neo-Cons Painting Obama Weak on Rogues”

http://original.antiwar.com/lobe/2009/06/22/neocons-paint-obama-as-weak-on-rogues/

Charles
Pretty crazy, this comes out today?

Renaissance-era political theorist Niccolò Machiavelli wrote that Rome’s downfall came about from the rise of the Praetorian Guard, the elite military corps that accumulated so much power it controlled both the emperor and the Senate. It appears that our elite commando forces have become the new Praetorians, and like their predecessors, they’ve managed to bully the executive and legislative branches of their government into foreign policies that ensure them permanent employment.

The New Praetorians

http://original.antiwar.com/huber/2009/06/22/the-new-praetorians/

This is the first of a five-part series, “Khobar Towers Investigated: How a Saudi Deception Protected Osama bin Laden.” The series was supported by the Fund for Investigative Journalism.

http://original.antiwar.com/porter/2009/06/22/saudis-tried-to-pin-khobar-bombing-on-iran/

I haven’t read everyone yet-I am about half way through so…good morning dear friends.
I just wanted to say that there was real reason for the Iranian revolution. the Shah was something of a monster and people were tortured and they were profoundly shocked by the Western values that were being forced down their throats. This is not support of the current old men as a woman they terrify me-they could move to the Taliban side “without taking their lunch” as my mother would have said. I just know that many people posting here were very young when everything came down in Iran and I wanted to say that there was reason and there is reason that the US is hated in that part of the world.

lunagardener
This is a crazy/off subject! post–Birds and communicating with nature? Not that this is important in the big picture of life!, but I have learned from the quail “language”, of the surroundings, and esp. dangers around..I know their chatter and then can spot a hawk or bob cat! Whoa, depending on the circustances, I can head for the car!

David Rothenberg and the “Songs of Birds”

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/musicinstinct/video/music-and-evolution/david-rothenberg-on-bird-songs/70/

((((((((((((((((LJ)))))))))))))))

((((((((((( rc )))))))))))

LOL–what craziness?? Aquarian Planets–!! I can do better communicating with nature than humans sometimes. This is funny too–and I know I am protected, –”twice”, I have been clipped on the ear, by a dive-bombing hawk. They can sometimes do a surprise attack! They can come out of no-where! and beyond fast. LOL, I am in good running shape, but the hawk, is still wiser than me–But NOT as wise as the eagle.

BBC Persian Works Around Restrictions and Struggles to Stay on Air

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8113882.stm

((((((((((( LJ )))))))))))

Your being struck in the head by that hawk vivdly brings to mind the lovely, haunting imagery K. Gibran has woven in the first verse of a widely recognized poem of his……….

http://www.katsandogz.com/onlove.html

“…the greatest moral good is a virtuous and stable state, and actions to protect the country are therefore justified even if they are cruel.”

Hi Charles, if Iran is what you had in mind when you quoted this, what if what is being protected is not the country, but the ruler’s hold on power? Multiple sources within and outside of Iran point in this direction.

Here is Starlight on the current transits for Khameini.

“…he [Khameini] is clearly in crisis now. The Saturn station is activating his Saturn/Pluto/Mars T Square in 00 fixed signs from 15 Virgo!! Using the generic noon birth time, the crisis will go through June 25.

Saturn, Pluto, Mars in hard aspect and in its less evolved manifestation craves power and authority, and is ruthless and violent. The Saturn station to this configuration suggests a power struggle and a test of power for Khameini, which is playing out in the streets as well as behind closed doors.

By the way, these planets in their highest expression would be Siva, who drinks the poison of the world and transforms it into light. or the “wrathful deities” of Tibetan Buddhism like Mahakala or Yamantaka.

Jerry W
“”tears”", that was so lovely..thank you I LOVE Kahlil Gibran. Chillingly, beautiful. That is one to keep. It is no fault of the hawk also, he is beautiful…. it is mine.. I just happen to get caught in the cross fire of nature.

Obama Gives Strongest Speech/News conference–Condemning Iran’s Treatment of Protesters.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/70536.html

Helena
Thank you, for your thoughts, on transforming the light..

Hi Helena,

In Charles’ defense, according to some news reports, the unrest may actually be unrelated to the mullahs and the Islamic Iranian regime.

Click on the following link below and then scroll down to the second video clip and you’ll see what I mean - the one with the caption that reads: “Senior “Foreign-Looking Correspondent” Aasif Mandvi, discusses the Western troublemakers in all those cell phone videos from Iran:”

http://tabularotunda.blogspot.com/2009/06/daily-show-meddling-in-iran-edition.html

Hi LJ, Not a Word mentioned on NK !! Pbob press conference.

This might have been one reason Ahamadejine?
was in Russia last week–New Oil pipeline negotiations..

http://en.rian.ru/world/20090623/155330691.html

MOSCOW, June 23 (RIA Novosti) - Iran will soon issue a tender on
constructing an oil pipeline from the Caspian Sea to the Persian Gulf,
Deputy Oil Minister Nureddin Shahnazizadeh announced at a conference
in Moscow on Tuesday.
The 970-mile pipeline project at a cost of $2 billion would transport
one million barrels per day from the Caspian port of Neka to Jask in the Gulf of Oman

rc
you are right!, That is extremely unusual. Well, I have been thinking–that ALL, of these problems involve China TOO. China is the biggest trader/oil with Iran, and some how N. Korea is–{read this}–China’s “junk yard dog”? We might have to be careful what we say?

And your earlier post about France’s air crash,–there might be some kind of conspiracy wrapped up in this? I cannot imagine what it is now? –More investigations will bring us more info….with the New Moon eclipse, the path could be opened.

China and Kyrgystan Sign New Economic Agreement

http://eng.24.kg/business/2009/03/05/7278.html

U.S. and Kyrgystan just signed New Air Base Lease–they closed it to us for 3/4 months?..The Rent was tripled! 60 million a yr from 17.5 million a year. Looks like Kyrgystan is on the move up…..

The question in my mind is where is China standing on all of this? China does not want nuclear war any more than anyone else does, including N. Korea. I agree that it is saber rattling and, in some way, suicidal (what afterlife view does their religion hold?). But does China want to see us involved in one or two more wars to further weaken our power thereby allowing China’s further ascension? Or would that be too dangerous to the stability of the world economy, etc.? The U.S. is so intertwined with the world economy at this time that what affects us would also affect all others, isn’t that the case?

Perusing through some of the Iranian Twitter blog entries (as far as I can determine mostly originating out of the capitol city of Tehran), it immediately becomes apparent these are average people just like you and I who are helplessly caught up in a maelstrom of violence. They have no resources to turn to, and seem to be in continual fear for their lives. It appears normal life in Tehran has come to a virtual stand-still. It is heart-wrenching to read some of these random comments. Got the following off of Persian Kiwi Twitter (see attachment below): http://twitter.com/persiankiwi .

The comments registered are in ‘real time’, sometimes as frequently as every few minutes (8 and a half hour time zome difference from EST).

There are dozens of these websites located at the bottom the following webpage: http://iran-election.alltop.com/

This is just a sampling……..

PERSIAN KIWI
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all hospitals is surrounded by militia to check why ppl going in - if gun or baton injury - they arrest and beat u #Iranelection

28 minutes ago from web
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all foreign embassys surrounded by militia to stop ppl going in - #Iranelection

32 minutes ago from web
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The parks in north of city are closed at night and militia attacking any ppl in park or walking in streets - #Iranelection

33 minutes ago from web
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we have report of large street battles in east & west of Tehran now - #Iranelection

35 minutes ago from web
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there is militia controlling movement from downtown to north of Tehran to stop ppl joining Sea of Green - #Iranelection

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tomorrow Mousavi annouce start of a new type of protests - peaceful and silent - soon there will be strikes #Iranelection

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the only question now is how will the end happen - peacefully or with civil war - #Iranelection

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the ppl have lost all faith in this Gov - Iran can never be same as b4 again - #Iranelection

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all normal life in Iran has stopped - now everybody only talk about Sea of Green and rumours of how Khamenei will go - #Iranelection

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We can hear ppl shouting from balcony right now ‘Allah Akbar - death to Khamenei’ - #Iranelection

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Guardian Council has extended time for considering election fraud claims 5 days more from tomorrow deadline #Iranelection

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everywhere is road blocks and fires and sometime u hear guns shooting - #Iranelection

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It is just like living under martial law - u cannot go anywhere without being stoped or beaten by militia - #Iranelection

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the city is full of Baseej and Revolutionary Guards and plain closthes militia carrying baton and tear gas - #Iranelection

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We have just returned and outside the city sky is full of teh sounds of ‘Allah Akbar’ from ppls on balconys - #Iranelection

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we must log off for a few hours - going to streets to see what is happening - #Iranelection thank u

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confirmed IRIB - Iran expels 2 UK diplomats - #Iranelection

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CONFIRMED - Musavi facebbok - Wed march Baharestan Sq 4pm Mousavi will attend too #Iranelection

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yesterday we saw a 10 years old child die from teargas in his face - #Iranelection - could not film becos militia everywhere

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travelling thru Tehran now is worse than Bagdad - any moment u can be beaten or arrested - #Iranelection

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some embassys provided protection b4 but now they are all surrounded by militia - also if u are injured then they arrest u - #Iranelection

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also one of us is badly injured and we cannot take to hospital - treating with trusted doctor contacts but needs hosp - #Iranelection

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We are having difficulty getting updates to u as so many of our contacts been arrested - life here is v/v/dangerous now #Iranelection RT RT

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Shirin Ebadi - Nobel Peace Laureat - calls for International Political sanctions against Iran Gov - #Iranelection RT RT RT

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Maryam Zolfeghar - journalist IRNA - arrested today - #Iranelection

about 5 hours ago from web

U.S./Kyrgyzstan Air Base Deal–Involves Russia Tooo

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/23/us-kyrgyzstan-airbase-dea_n_219473.html

Sharon
Believe they are majority Buddhist.. Guessing–!the more power we lose, the more China gains.
It is very disturbing to me, that China is buying into so many mineral deals with all countries, buying farms, making economic contacts with countries all over the world, into oil/mineral contracts with Iran, Nigeria, Africa/Dafur, Burma{Myra Mur}?sp?…China is “gobbling” up everything, everywhere.. Guessing–China wants to become the economic “super power”, and they need all the resourses they can buy,— to keep their engine pumped for growth. With their horrible record of human rights issues–that is the frightening part.

Sharon

“Buddhism is the largest organized faith in China and the country has the most Buddhist adherents in the world. Many Chinese, however, identify themselves as both Taoist and Buddhist at the same time.”"
from wikipedia

It is probably more complicated than this–, but have not studied it.

Jerry W,

I’m dumbfounded! Absolutely perplexed! Am I living on another planet from everyone else? How in the world did they just have a presidential news conference and neither Obama addressed nor any reporter asked a question related to North Korea? One reporter went so far as to waste their question on BO’s smoking habits.

Your 5:15 am post says it all. I believe Russia and China are pushing BO to the brink. I’m sure they think he is soft, and are trying to see how far they can push. I don’t think they want a World War III at this time. Korea can not be doing what it is doing without approval and maybe even strategized approval from China. It is my understanding, that BO may attempt to have Singaporian officials search the Korean ship when it enters port. But there is no confirmation that the ship will stop at Singapore, or that officials there will be willing to search the ship if it arrives. If neither happens, the UN resolution only allows for the US to asked if it can board the ship. The resolution does not give the US permission to board the ship if North Korean permission is denied. Obama would then be faced with the US boarding the ship under its own authority. He could justify boarding on the grounds that North Korea is an enemy combatant, since it recently rescinded the armistice truce that led to the cessation of conflict at the end of the Korean War. If nothing is found on the ship, we would have some egg on our face. Once again we would be accused of beating up on the little guy.

I think the repercussions may be greater, if we don’t. We will look very weak to the world, and embolden the Russians and Chinese for riskier action down the road, that could lead to WWIII. I just don’t see this Korean incident leading to any immediate war, Korean is not in a position to do anything directly by itself. I don’t see Russian and China forcing this issue into a war at this time. But like I said before, anything can happen.

It’s very interesting that the two powers Bush declared as part of the axis of evil are so involved into today’s crisis. By the way, BO has also cut funding for missile defense, and if accurate (and I know how people feel about John Bolton), but he did say yesterday that BO also moved 15 defensive missiles out of Alaska. What’s that about? Anyone know? Now, we are talking of having our missile defense in place in the Koreans launch a missile in the direction of Hawaii. Suddenly missile defense is important to this administration.

Speaking of the axis of evil. Majorie Orr commented that the Iranian government has placed Great Britain on its axis of evil list. Majorie commented that the British must be thrilled to still be considered of consequence on the world scene.

The Assip Mandvi video was funny.

Correction,

Now, we are of having our missile defense in place IF the Koreans launch a missile…

Jerry W
Fantastic information, thanks again, very frustrating and sad for us tho, our hands seems so tied…we can only encourage the people, the best we can… Try this link for information…….

http://www.livestream.com/persianq?origin=embedplayer

Correction II

Now, we are TALKING of having our missile defense in place IF the Koreans launch a missle…

“Brainstorming Iran, an X-Ray of Immediate History”

Al Giordano:

“Last night, I instigated a sit-down skull session with seven colleagues that are closely following the situation in Iran, with, between them, encyclopedic knowledge (and lived experience) of the history civil resistance movements in Iran and around the world, to see if we could agree on an objective set of facts to describe what is happening and brainstorm on what might happen next.”

This is a fascinating discussion of the strategies being implemented by the resistence in the context of global civil resistence movements.

A new development is that Iranian Kurds have joined the general strike now underway. I wonder if this will spread to the Kurdish populations in Turkey and Iraq.

narconews.com

Pres O’s press conference this morning was a clear indication that the so-called “Honeymoon” is definitely over. A couple of reporters were aggressive to the point of being rude and condescending. I actually felt bad for Obama. The demands being made upon him to take a hard-line on Iran are, IMO, nothing more than far-right war-mongering Repugs baiting him with the threat of being a wimp or too dovey. Although for the most part, he handled himself with dignity and poise, it was one of the first times I detected a palpable level of righteous indignation and anger from the Pres. Good for him. I believe he is handling the Iranian issue with aplomb for the time being. It is Iran’s struggle for right now - we cannot have a revolution for them. But we can certainly be appalled by the treatment of innocent and even protesting civilians in a so-called democratic society. Change is on the horizon there, in its own time.

Regarding nothing being said or asked about NK - I say, “No news is good news.” Let that pan simmer on the back burner for a while. I don’t feel it is a real threat. It is almost ridiculous and childlike.

What a great Mom you are, Starlight! Mazel tov on your son’s metriculation to college.

“Only” short/medium range Missiles will be launched?
I hate fox news–but this what they are saying!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/23/intel-official-north-korea-expected-launch-short-medium-range-missiles/

Honolulu Newspaper

N. Korea missile May Not be Headed for Hawai!

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090623/BREAKING/90623025/North+Korea+warning+suggests+missile+may+not+be+headed+toward+Hawaii

Guide to Iran’s Power Players

http://www.thedailybeast.com/big-fat-story/2009-06-22/guide-to-irans-power-players/?cid=bfs:recent1

Homeless Student Heads to Harvard!

http://www.gnn.com/article/homeless-student-heads-to-harvard/539624?icid=main|main|dl5|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gnn.com%2Farticle%2Fhomeless-student-heads-to-harvard%2F539624

Sagitarrius,

Yes. Clearly US policy on Iran and the economy dominated the news conference. Probably not enough time to cover the NK issue. It was conspicuously absent from the discussion but I don’t think it was deliberate.

15 defensive missiles being moved out of Alaska. You asked - “What’s that about?”

Perhaps Obama is a good friend of David Letterman’s? If so, maybe some discreet suggestions were made, persuading the commander in chief to take care of that personal matter with Sarah Palin.

http://www.prwatch.org/node/8425

Health Insurance Insider to Testify Before Senate

LJ…If we take the time to listen nature is always telling us stuff for our own good! If you’ve been clipped twice….you might want to read about Hawk medicine and see what they are trying to tell you.

re: your post….Of course we humans would love to believe they are singing for us, HA~ When my daughter was little she had a Bob White going crazy as she imitated him in our yard thinking he had found ‘the one’. So funny to watch.

rc on June 23rd, 2009
at 6:08 am…that article didn’t explain what the mysterious signals might be, good catch though on the info.

Another beautiful Bee meditation came into my mailbox this week…

Anchoring the Bee Consciousness of Love- Part 2

http://www.wisdomofthelight.com/Weekly-Messages.html

I am still trying catch up on the days news, I think I will save this one for the quiet peaceful weekend….thanks everyone for posting.

Summer has come in with a very busy energy attached to it!

Obama vs. the News Cycle
By Dan Froomkin
2:39 PM ET, 06/23/2009

President Obama, making his most extensive and personal remarks yet condemning the crushing of dissent by the Iranian regime, also stressed today that it’s not his job to satisfy the 24-hour news cycle, with its rapacious appetite for conflict and ultimatums, but rather to advance the interests of the country on his own clock.

Responding to insistent questioning at today’s press conference from NBC News’s Chuck Todd about why he wouldn’t “spell out the consequences” for the Iranian government, Obama shot back: “We don’t know yet how this thing is going to play out.

“I know everybody here is on a 24-hour news cycle. I’m not. OK?”

And when CBS News’s Chip Reid recounted criticism from Republicans including former presidential candidate John McCain that Obama had thus far been timid and weak in his comments about Iran, Obama fired back: “You know, I think John McCain has genuine passion about many of these international issues. And, you know, I think that all of us share a belief that we want justice to prevail.

“But only I’m the president of the United States. And I’ve got responsibilities in making certain that we are continually advancing our national security interests and that we are not used as a tool to be exploited by other countries.”

He added: “I think that in the hothouse of Washington, there may be all kinds of stuff going back and forth in terms of Republican critics versus the administration. That’s not what is relevant to the Iranian people…. They’re trying to figure out how can they make sure justice is served in Iran.”

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/white-house-watch/2009/06/23/pf.html

Jerry, you are full of mirth today!

Here’s one back at you and everyone:

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/open-thread-1

Al Giordano is reporting the protesters have regrouped and are coming out again in force since yesterday. The difference in just one day I have to think has to do with first the Moon Pluto opposition, followed by the Moon trine Uranus.

Incredible energy in this video from today:

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/regrouping-against-repression-iran

Senator Claire McCaskill on Health Care Reform

“There’s serious money made in health care in this country and all of that money is pushing back. This will be a fight and it will be an ugly fight. If anybody had some notion that this would go smoothly, or it was going to happen easily, I don’t think they’ve been paying attention,” she said before entering a closed-door weekly Democratic luncheon.”

“The push back from the financial interests opposed to health care reform is being felt strongly in Congress. But McCaskill warned that ‘whoever wants to be part of bringing all this down … will have to own’ the consequences of their resistance. ‘Everybody’s free to run whatever ads they want to run. I think there’ll be real consequences if we don’t provide stability to the American people as it relates to health care,’ she said.”

http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/06/23/mccaskill-on-health-care-this-will-be-a-fight-and-it-will-be-an-ugly-fight/

Helena,

Very cute. Great commentary on the technologically savvy young Iranians.

The enclosed video clip you shared - ‘the re-grouping against repression’ is dated Sunday the 21st. Judging from the news today the numbers of organized dissenters out in Tehran’s streets Tuesday has been severely curtailed compared to the previous week. The protestors ability to organize has been significantly weakened by the regime’s brutal display of force.

Interesting that Ayatollah Khameini has an almost exact Mars-Pluto-Saturn t square located at 0 degr. in fixed signs with current transiting nodes activating those degrees. That particular natal aspect says it all - uncompromising and ruthless.

Jerry, my mistake. However, the protestors are currently implementing a brilliant strategy for a general strike, although they are not calling it that.

“To the Bazaar, Comrades!”

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/bazaar-comrades

Jerry W,

“Perhaps Obama is a good friend of David Letterman’s? If so, maybe some discreet suggestions were made, persuading the commander in chief to take care of that personal matter with Sarah Palin.”

Hilarious. Great minds must think alike. The same thought crossed my mind when I typed the question, but I just let it slide.

still OT, with permissions, Thinking Iranian Kids in the streets. Revolt
Hi LJ, Re:8:58 am,”" I communicate with animals ,better than humans some times”"lol,, Whilst busy, busy,busy at work,, The radio a blastin,, I was reading your post,,, This song was playing ,,Loud ,loud,, loud…I thought of the Hawk ,, I thought of You,, Running for cover in the dusty desert….The Bees…. well anyways the point of all of this being,is that this song has Stuck in my Aquarias head ,all dang day long!! (pluto/moon opp ?)
“Listen up “nobody sleeps at night when i am AWake”
“The dreams that i dream, The songs That sing”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g_blhq_N0s

Hi LJ ,, oops,, wow,,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g_blhq_N0s

Documents Back Saudi Link to Extremists, but May Never Be Used in 9/11 Suit

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/world/middleeast/24saudi.html?_r=1

lunagardener
wow,, bet you are right with the Hawk medicine..I will ck. that out—thank you for the tip… and will soon get my Kachina Tales Book !!?
There “is” great reading here now, also…

rc
Laughing right now–what a great SOUND–and great words. LOVE it.. Friend “Aquarius”–it works
Yes, trying to run out of everyones’s way and we have those little praire dogs, that stick their heads up quickly out of their holes–so, some days it is “slipping and sliding”/peeping and a hiding”! It is common to have cactus in my ankles and arms! What was to be a simple thing for 8 yrs. now has been a great/learning project.
I know I won’t run into John McCain there–that is the good news. It was 103 today–it is wonderful, up 100—really—but 103! is HOT. But I had a great transiting Venus/Mars– conjunct Natal Venus today–I won $300.00 on one of those scratch lotto tickets. I knew the transit was happening, bought a ticket for a dollar–and “”Astrology Wins”" again. Even tho, I have a lot of squares, it worked….thank you for the music-I will go listen to it again–and have to you find the article on the Japanese satellite..

rc
That poor satellite crashed into the “dark side of the Moon”–it must have been launched with an Aries Sun or Moon?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/23/japanese-kaguya-satellite_n_219393.html

The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has released the final footage shot by its Kaguya satellite right before it crashed into the dark side of the moon. The gorgeously rendered video reconstructs the flight’s final moments before it crashed

The Intersteller Kamakaze

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f48_1245714968&c=1

Weblog Note . Today, Having passed Through this the June 22 Apects, Iam , and will be for a while,, in the Magical Kindom. Starlight has left a most puzzling Insite for Investigation:::”Astrologically”" I feel if something Missing”" (Starlight)::
With that being said, Politically, That leaves me Pondering? What did The Planets did to Our Poor South Carolina Govenor, To allow him to act in such behavior. This will cost him any credibility as far as the Pluto/Leo cuspers are concerned, for a Presidential run.
Pbob had a Marvelous Press Conference Today.. The 4th press conference.. I saw the The Symbol of Color, Again.. The Color of His Tie. .. Red +Blue = Vilolet,, Poli-Astro speaking, The Planets have crashed our Partys into One…. This Path 11 President Knows This .
Sooo To The “Magic Kingdom” went Govenor Mark Sanford and with Him The Republicans Prtys Chance in 12. ,, Judd Gregg … Judge Souter…..Palin….Rush… Oh My…This Planetary brutality is not Over yet on Our Public and Private Leaders..no no.. The Answers will be Found in The Magic Kingdom, The Land For Poli-Astro- Missing Republican Persons .As a voter, I again, Myself Included.

Hi LJ, I wonder if the Luna Landing Areas will be verified ,, You Know,, One Small Step For Man….??
Speaking of Japan,,Ps..dont tell any body, but Kimli loves the moon,and wants to travel in space..If he Lives Long enough, He may just do that.You Know, The bucket List Thing..lol

Mr President Stay the Course/ Repugs at Their Worst and McCain Should be ashamed of Himself

Neda, Obama, Iran — and the rest of us

http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/?last_story=/opinion/walsh/politics/2009/06/23/neda/

rc
You did name some of the worst Repus………

Repus?? sorry, that should be Repugs/Republicans

Olberman–Bush REturns as Worst Person

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/23/olbermann-bush-returns-to_n_219884.html

Hi LJ, Thats the whole Point..What going Missing:: Of too the Mk , They do go,, Thats why you cant find John Mac,,Hillary,, Bill, Arnold,, The other Arnold,, my my,,The brain Hurts…. You are right,, The Kingdom is Open for all,, Dems and Repu(s)!!

Good Morning Sonya: Re, My Post june 19 2:40PM.
Please read this Link and Remember ,what I mean when I say “This Path is Lit” Safe Havens.

Sonya, Spread the word along the line::dont let this Program Fail,, It Must be secured, then build upon it.. Astrologicaly,…Dont Wait to long. tkx rc

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/nassau/ny-lijoy2312906792jun22,0,465706.column

rc
I read that Hillary is working in the background! !? and a lot of the Envoy’s/Ambassadors are out in front…? Gov. Sanford was upset because he lost the Supreme Court Case, over the Stimulous Money–and “had to get away”. His thinking is still grade school.. Most Repugs have to get away and “pout”..They are not on the Magic Road or in the Magic Kingdom.

Something intangible as yet may be brewing as we approach the July 7th lunar eclipse. It’s difficult to put a finger on. Like the June 22 New Moon - Pluto opposition, I suppose we won’t have a clearer idea until a few days prior. Nevertheless, the same forces that bore down on the Iranian natal Sun last Saturday June 20th, bringing the entire episode of the ‘green revolution’ versus the government to a culmination vis a vis the violent police crackdown; we may be seeing these things escalate once again - and very soon. I’m convinced that the tight configuration of Moon (26 Taurus) in square to the Ju/Ne/Ch conj. (26 Aq) and semi-square to the Iranian Sun at the midpoint (11 Aries) may have been responsible for things rapidly coming to a boiling point. As mentioned before these very same influences may re-emerging and magnified with the July 7th transits. Mars will take up its position at that very same Moon degree - 26 Taurus. Adding to the volatile mix, the waxing lunar eclipse 8 hours prior to full maturation at 11 Capr. will be squaring that point like a laser beam. Iran’s Sun is at the center of the Mars - Ne/Ju/Ch conj square.

How this will affect America’s involvement in the region if events over there were to spiral out of control can be seen by the Lunar eclipse itself (15 ‘24 Capr.). It forms an opposition to America’s progressed Jupiter (15 ‘37 Cancerr) and a relatively close, larger grand cross square to the US progressed Mars (18 ‘39 Libra) and US progr. Chiron/ Venus (17 ‘11/ 18 ‘46 Aries respectively). Iran in crisis could easily spill over into becoming our crisis by default. The potential economic fall-out from an Iran falling apart at the seams, comes at an especially vulnerable time for the US with that 7/7 Mars transit in conjunction to the NYSE Sun square to the Neptune/Chiron/Jupiter conj., the US natal Moon and Obama’s natal South Node (opposite his natal Uranus).

An informative in-depth article on the financial ramifications of the July 7 lunar eclipse is explored more fully in the following article………

Financial Reform and the July 7, 2009 Lunar Eclipse 15 Capricorn

http://www.1800blogger.com/2009/06/22/financial-reform-and-the-july-7-2009-lunar-eclipse-15cap/

Typo/ Read instead: “these very same influences may be re-emerging and magnified…..”

In the above article ‘Finacial Reform & the 7/7 Lun. Ecl.’, the author refers to the aspects impacting the NYSE chart. What may have been overlooked is the tr. Mars-Uranus sextile (26 Taurus/Pisces), with its midpoint conjoining the NYSE Saturn (26 Aries) forming a yod to NYSE Neptune (27 Libra). What could that represent? To me it might suggest a sudden, dramatic event (Mars-Uranus) impacting the foundation of the entire NYSE financial edifice (Saturn). Whether the yod to Neptune would contribute to an unforeseen meltdown remains to be seen.

Mousavi A Terrorist PM “Back in the Day”

http://starsoverwashington.blogspot.com/

Much Info here: Mousavi–
DC Train Wreck–Press Conf–Neda

http://starsoverwashington.blogspot.com/

Gov. Sanford Returns from”"Argentina”"–NOT Appalachia!!
Argentina is in the Midst of “Elections”–Bill Clinton was there last week–why all the trips to Argentina?? What is going on??

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/gov.-sanford-returns-from-argentina-not-appalachia-2009-06-24.html

White House Posts “Farsi” Version of Obama’s Remarks—

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/06/24/white-house-posts-farsi-version-of-obama-remarks/

Jerry W
This article important? or not?
Feds Jupiter Return Dec. 2008?

http://judecowell.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/the-feds-jupiter-return-dec-2008/

LJ,

On behalf of Governor Sanford (he’s after all our Governor in SC) I can explain it. It’s rather embarrassing. You see, I secretly passed on the Starlightnews info to him about an impending June 22 nuclear conflict with NK via his secretary, and the poor fellow took it seriously. Without informing anyone on his staff, he abruptly left the country. I had no idea he would abandon his wife and family after reading the material. I feel terrible about that. Leaving your job is one thing - but wife and family? Anyway, now that the coast is clear, he’s going to have a lot of explaining to do. Myself? - I’m keeping a low profile.

Jerry W
Is this article of any importance?

N.Y. Stock Exchange and Masonic Astrology

http://www.edkohout.com/mundane/nyse.html

Jerry W
You? Are you in S.C.? I would not put any “so-called” blame on yourself… I would not be suspious of his whole trip–had it not been for Argentina’s Elections! and Bill Clinton was there last week. There is something political going on–?
You are truly- great….

Hi LJ,

Jupiter is in latter degrees of Aquarius, so that part of the analysis may no longer apply. However, I do think the Pluto transit opposite the Federal Reserve Sun is still very much an ongoing concern - very valid.

Sanford and I go way back, - from our pre-college days. I just didn’t think he would take the Starlightnews material that seriously. He should have spoken to me directly before leaving - I would have straightened him out on certain things (like leaving his family). Anyway, he’s back. Much to everyones relief.

P.S. Just having fun here. Disregard the above comments. Not a word of truth to it.

((((((((((((((Jerry W)))))))))))))

Mr. Sanford, the development banks portray
themselves as lending to countries that don’t have access to private sector
capital and to projects that are of no interest to the private sector, in
essence saying that the private sector lends 80 percent of what it provides
to 12 countries, whereas the development banks lend to the world. The
fact is that 11 countries account for 70 percent of World Bank lending,
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and those countries include – China, Argentina, Mexico, Indonesia, Korea,
Brazil, the Philippines, Turkey; the list of usual suspects and the same
countries you are talking about in private sector lending.
Representative Sanford. Mr. Levinson, I cut you off. I wanted
to go down—
Representative Saxton. Your time has actually expired. Could
you wrap up in the next minute or so, please.
Representative Sanford. I will let you do so, the last minute..

http://www.house.gov/jec/hearings/4-12-00.pdf

Jerry W
Gov. Sanford worked on IMF–World Bank Reform in 2000, I did not read all of this–but, I would bet that his trip could very well have something to do with the IMF..In some cases parties are the same–Bill Clinton/Mark Sanford–working for the same goal–whatever that really is…?

CORRECTION: Read: Pluto conjunct Federal Reserve natal Sun.

Jerry W
Here is a list! of many indiscreations by Gov. Sanford. Conspiracy–Lies?? we may not know, but this is certainly interesting reading and theories–and given Sanford’s disappearance, this makes for more mystery? and Intrigue…?

http://indymedia.us/en/2008/12/35062.shtml

South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford Lauds Bill Clinton’s Washington,D.C. Stock Fraud Money Launderer James Dale Davidson !

LJ,

CNN reports - Sanford to hold press conf. 2 pm today, presumably to clarify certain concerns about his actions.

(((Jerry W)))))
I would believe anything you tell me! Love it–LOL–but you are bad!! However: I love the mystery stories in my above post. Real Live Politics, better than a fiction mystery novel……………………So, what has Gov. Sanford been doing all these years?–whatever, does not look like he is on the Up and Up!

Jerry W
Thank you, I will look for the Press Conf.–but, I doubt, if I now believe anything he says. I never thought about him before, except, he was annoying about the stimulous pkg. but, now I believe him to be a little edgy?

James Dale Davidson Helped Fund the Arkansas Project–”Against” Bill Clinton–this is too complicated…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas_Project

Karim Sadjadpour was interviewed by Terry Gross on “Fresh Air” yesterday. Iran or Teheran (don’t recall which) is under martial law. One of the things he did was to flesh out the leading cast of characters. Rafsanjani and Khameini are two powerful families within the Islamic Republic of Iran. These two men have a long history. They go back 50 years when they were students of the revolution. They were once allies. Rafsanjani was once the powerful Prime Minister and close to the Ayatollah Khomeini, before Khameini became his successor. Sadjadpour described them as similar to the Corleones and Tataglia families from the Godfather, which says a lot. This corroborates a reading of Khameini’s Saturn, Mars, Pluto t-square in its less evolved manifestation. He is not above the fray as evident in his siding with Ahmadinejad and stealing the election. Khameini is extremely orthodox, whereas Rafsanjani is more secular.

Al Giordano reports that the protesters are adapting their tactics and are now targeting the oil ministry, commerce, and transportation. A general strike is planned for the next few days. I don’t know if people are still interested in this story…

http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=13

The revolution of 1979 started in 1978 and took a year. This will take time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/19/us/white-house-tries-to-broker-compromise-on-nomination.html

Underlying the dispute is the role Mr. Olson played, along with his wife, Barbara, during the Clinton presidency, when both engaged in harsh, even vituperative criticism of both President Bill Clinton and his wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton. Mr. Olson has never denied being a leading figure in anti-Clinton circles, but the dispute has involved his connection to a specific venture at The American Spectator known as the Arkansas Project.

I just realized I may be wrong about Rafsanjani’s position during the period of Khomeini.

I also thought it was interesting that Sadjadpour said the position of Ayatollah was a “robe tailor made” for Khomeini.

Hi LJ , Excellent post on Masonic Astrology.

Looks like Olson became Solicitor Gen

Theodore Bevry Olson (born September 11, 1940) was the 42nd United States Solicitor General, serving from June 2001 to July 2004.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Olson

What a tangled WEB–Olson was on the board that did the recount for GW’s election and lost his 3rd. wife on plane of 911…I have wondered if she is still alive?

Hi LJ,

About Sanford - We’re all playing out our drama. In reviewing the life of the just recently deceased celebrity/ tv host Ed McMahon on the entertainment tv channel, a very, funny scene is shown where Ed knocks on the door to a well to do home. A middle aged couple emerges. They are delighted to see him. He enthusiastically greets them and launches into this bright smiled request. He said ‘Remember that Sweepstakes cheque of a million dollars I gave you a while back? I would like to have it back’ It was a parody on the financial difficulties he was undergoing and the imminent forclosure of his Beverly Hills home. The couple responds with a frown, and an abrupt closing of the door. The scene repeats itself, with several more doors being shut on him. Now that’s self-effacing humour at its best. Very funny. You have to love the guy for it.

I like what E Tolle has to say about it all……

Who You Truly Are

Many things in your life matter, but only one thing matters absolutely.

It matters whether you succeed or fail in the eyes of the world. It matters whether you are healthy or not healthy, whether you are educated or not educated. It matters whether you are rich or poor - it certainly makes a difference in your life. Yes, all these things matter, relatively speaking, but they don’t matter absolutely.

There is something that matters more than any of those things and that is finding the essence of who you are beyond that short-lived entity, that short-lived personalised sense of self.

You find peace not by rearranging the circumstances of your life, but by realizing who you are at the deepest level.

All the misery on the planet arises due to a personalised sense of “me” or “us”. That covers up the essence of who you are. When you are unaware of that inner essence, in the end you always create misery. It’s as simple as that. When you don’t know who you are, you create a mind-made self as a substitute for your beautiful divine being and cling to that fearful and needy self…….”

rc
Lots of intrigue today? All of this is tooo intersting,
but will leave research for another day–and await Sanfords’s Press Conf?..

Helena
great insight–my Iranians neighbor does not like Rhacinjani, but also realizes, it might be one of the best–their choices right now are limited. He goes out everynight and protests here…I am apprehensive for his family and saddened by all his anxiety.

Jerry w
Loved the story and E Tolles pondering, thoughts.

Obama To Meet Pope in July—this must be inconjunction with his visit with Putin?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/24/obama-pope-to-meet-in-ita_n_220061.html

U.S. Sends Ambassador to Syria–first in 4 years

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2009/06/200962451456809558.html

Africa/Russia Oil Deals

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2009/06/2009624132131262824.html

Gazprom, the Russian gas giant, and Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation are also slated to sign a gas agreement during the visit.

The Russian company wants a stake in Nigeria’s vast gas deposits and is said to be ready to invest in energy infrastructure to obtain access.

One major project it wants to become involved in is the Trans-Saharan Gas pipeline, a project aimed at sending Nigerian gas to Europe, and supported by the European Union

Iran’s Election Drama–More Elaborate than You Think

http://original.antiwar.com/sahimi/2009/06/23/irans-election-drama/

Does MSM know they are a dying form of media. The press conference yestersday was amusing in a pathetic way. They congratulated themselves for being snarky and Obama had a bored, mild contempt seeping through his words. From Maj Garrett- “finally you said something”, Chip Reid, timid and weak question, to Chuck Todd (who I used to like but now is so full of himself and thinks he is Tim Russett now) being spanked by the President to the reporter with braces trying to elevate her snoopiness regarding Obama’ smoking by trying to window dress it with the new tobacco legislation.

I felt like Obama was like Keneau Reeves in the last scene of the first Matrix movie. Where he is fighting and is so fast that he gets bored while fighting.

The dying gasps of the fourth estate and they don’t know it. But it will only get worse for Americans and will be a great time for crooked politicns. I love the information access of the internet and citizen journalism but that doesn’t replace a reporter on the beat covering say a state house, digging and digging for months on end. MSM gave up on beat reporters 10 years ago.

Even MSM swallowed the Sanford hiking story. Nobody took the time to even check the airlines until the cops reported his phone signal from Atlanta. TV reporting is just a voyeristic circus show- watching an accident on the side of the highway.

Now MSM is now trying to blame Obama for what wasn’t asked in the presser. Please, come on now. That is their job. Obama has made himself more available to the press in the first 6 months of his Presidency than Clinton and Bush combined. I think you wiould have to go back to Nixon or LBJ for the most press avails of a President.

And I’m glad that Obama said the Iranian situation is not about us and that the Iranian people don’t care what anyone in DC is saying.

LJ,

Sanford confesses to an illicit love affair with an Argentenian lady friend, which will undoubtedly create a political firestorm for him. Story developing….

Sanford just announced his resignation as governor of SC.

My mistake. Some clarification needed on that. He is resigning as chairman of the GOP board of governors. His position as governor hasn’t changed.

((((((((((( THE MAGIC KINGDOM)))))))))))

Jerry W——rc !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, that should have been our “first” guess!–But, I am surprised. Who? Who?–would want to have an affair with “him”"??
Wow!, Magic Kingdom, is right–rc…
He might as well resign as Gov. completely. Of course,,, I pity the wives, that get dragged along with these scandals.

LJ,

Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

President Obama’s visit to Europe kicks off on July 6 in Moscow…

Obama To Visit Russia In July

July 6-8 Talks Expected To Focus On Reducing Nuclear Weapon Counts

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/12/politics/main5008462.shtml

I fear the visit may be shrouded in controversy and even danger for Mr. Obama. For one, the lunar eclipse at 15 ‘24 Capricorn on July 7 falls precisely on Russia’s natal Neptune at 15 ‘22 Capr.

What especially concerns me is the waxing lunar eclipse on the afternoon of the 6th conjunct tr. Pluto (1 ‘39 Capr.) in opposition to Obama’s natal Venus (1′47 Cancer) the very same degree of the June 22 New Moon. There is also a simultaneous tr. Mars at 25 Taurus conjunct natal Vesta (24 Taurus - related to security issues) square natal Uranus (25 Leo), square to tr. Chiron (25 Aq.) and nearby Jupiter/Neptune (26 Aq.). There’s also a Mars trine to natal Saturn (25 Capr.) The sheer volume of dangerous aspects arraying itself in detriment to Obama’s physical safety makes this visit to Russia extremely precarious.

LJ,

You asked

“Who? Who?–would want to have an affair with “him””??”

I would assume a man of power and prestige can be reasonably alluring. But then what do I know. I’m of the same gender and not in a position to judge from a woman’s perspective.

I “lost” an earlier piece–I keep having trouble with the internet and my computer.
Julie Demboski called this week a time of the weird as in the old English tongue meaning when god and humans get tangled up. Sure seems to be going that way.Sonya i so agree with you about the MSM and their lack of responsibility for doing the job we need right now.
As i saaid I kind of feel like going back to bed and pulling up the covers and maybe taking a rosary with me repeating prayers until I relax. No need to feel saved or holier than anyone just to relax a little.

Saturn in Virgo “Song”– humor only—

this came from Lynn Hayes/astrological musings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo74Dn7W_pA&feature=fvw

Jerry W
quick comment for now–given Ahamadinejad’s visit to Russia and their signing the new pipeline deal could make this trip more precarious. Both men/countries cannot be trusted…

All Right! I heard that 2 of the 10 Democratic Senators not for single-payer have switched because of all the phone calls and letters! [Cantwell from WA and the Arkansas Senator.] I did get to call all my congress people and leave my opinion. Jim McDermitt’s office person was the most cheerful and chatty. Cantwell’s sounded resentful and rushed. Patty Murray’s was nice and polite.

I don’t know if Bill Clinton has noticed, but I’m just starting to notice.

The men who worked so hard to bring him down for having sex with a woman other than his wife are being brought to the attention of the people they preached to, one at a time. The latest being the Governor of South Carolina.

As Martin Luther Kings said, to paraphrase, the arc of justice is slow, but it is true. As I like to say, I know what goes around comes around, and I don’t even have to be there to see it.

Pat C
Thank you for bringing this up, and it is amazing and fantastic to see this “coming around” to haunt everyone..

Fox’s Bill Sammon just layed down the law, all but saying Mark Sanford was done. Given Sammon’s influence over Fox political coverage, that’s pretty much a political death sentence even in the land of wingnuttia

From http://www.dailykos.com

“Sanford just announced his resignation as governor of SC.”

He was so adamant against taking federal monies during the middle an economic crisis. I’m happy for the people of South Carolina.

Jill, Blanche Lincoln has flipped?! Great news. Did you call about single payer or the public option?

LJ, I agree with Jerry. Some women, not all, are attracted by money and/or power and status. Wealth or status, for example, makes up for what a man lacks and some women are willing to put up with what’s missing in order to get that, security or the lifestyle.

Astrologically, just a few examples that come to mind. Women with Mars in Taurus, they tend to want a good provider. Venus/Saturn, other considerations besides love like ambition, profession, status, security, can factor into their choices for a partner. Women with Sun/Pluto in major aspect, Sun or Mars in Scorpio are examples of power being the magnet. For other women, power of mind is the draw, as in scientists or doctors, i.e., Mars in Aquarius or Aquarius on the 7th house cusp.

Chris Mathews just had a moment of lucidiness when he said that about Sanford and other stories that nowadays, none of this stuff comes to light because of reporters digging up the truth but in a press conference where the truth is flung at the press.

Echoing my sentiments earlier. MSM doesn’t report anymore they just transmit what happens.

Helena
sigh, I realize that some women are attracted to the money/power..or as one friend stayed in a marriage because of the money, a Taurus!–Love them–. It is all funny in the big life picture— Your examples were great
I just was one that could never do that…. It was just never worth it to me. I have Mars in Aquarius, but can just read a book!! or take a class… Sanford’s girfriend, being from Argentina, has probably not heard what a”whiner” he is… I hope his family can adjust to all of this well…

Well Jenny Sanford comes from a moneyed family and Mark doesn’t. And she kicked him out two weeks ago. And in her statement she basically said it was all up to Mark but Mark is still pining for his Maria.

To me this whole sad saga is about some men and their fragile egos. They don’t want an accomplished partner. They just want a woman to be a rearview mirror and magnify them 3x times their actual size. It’s a sad list. Bill and Hillary, Donald and Ivanka, Elliot and his wife, John and Elizabeth now Mr/Mrs Sanford.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/140813/the_supreme_court’s_unanimous_attack_on_the_voting_rights_act/

The Supreme Court’s Unanimous Attack on the Voting Rights Act

Once an election is done, it is hard to undo.

That’s true in Iran, and it’s also true in the United States.

This is why it is important to get the rules by which elections are held right before elections are held.

More at the link…

Jerry, how does the lunar eclipse on Russia’s natal Neptune connote danger for Obama?

Given the transiting Jupiter in Obama’s first house and the opposition to natal Uranus, I think that gives him some protection, as does the natal 12th house Jupiter, even with transiting Mars being involved in the configuration. It could be that Mars will add an element of contentiousness or competition, but we know that’s likely anyway given the current dynamic between the U.S. and Russia. Transiting Sun will conjunct the US Sun a couple of days prior to the eclipse when the Mars transit is operative, and although transiting Sun will sextile Saturn, none of this to my mind points to something dire happening. In any event, we’ll soon see!

Well I discovered a better relaxer than going to bed with a rosary or meditating or praying: I am watching my favorite baseball team, the SF Giants play the my spouses favorite team the Oakland A’s. I love baseball don’t care about the scandals, don’t care about the money I just love the dance of the game-almost like a minuet. And Lincecum is young enough to be a grandson.
Responding to something said earlier sometimes women fall for just the money,etc but there is something intoxicating about men who are kings or champions-it is a psychic thing that can be staggering for a woman in her reproductive years. One of things I love about getting old is that I am no longer vulnerable to that scent.
Yes Pat C.-I howled in my kitchen when I heard the news. I am wondering if we can’t impeach some of those suckers on the bench maybe just two them-Roberts and Scalia. They seem to be out to destroy all progress even to the point of saying that an innocent person can be killed if convicted and condemned to death.
Well no astrology from me today-just rambling on about all the weird.

Pat C, is this any surprise coming from the Roberts Court? Either the confirmation process needs to change to provide transparency, or we need term limits on supreme court judges. The country is and will become increasingly more progressive in the next decade, while the Supreme Court remains probably the last bastion of a failed ideology and monied interests.

“….They just want a woman to be a rearview mirror and magnify them 3x times their actual size”. LOL, Sonya. Isn’t it the truth? And you stated it so succintly!

LJ, loved that Al Yankovic “Amish Paradise” video. Big LOL.
Back to work now.

Ivana Trump is the only one who filed for divorce after finding out Donald was having an affair with Ms. Maples.
Elizabeth Edward’s health puts her in a position that is heart wrenching and and John the lowest of low.
And it seems to me that all the other political couples had lost the intimacy in their relationships a long time before they(so far the men) pathetically appeared on television asking for forgiveness.
Most woman know/knew long before their husbands were caught,and how they can stay with them is beyond me,
I’m not of the “for the kids sake” school, because money isn’t an issue here, and that’s why many woman stay, the lack of it.
I see these wives just as power hungry,some became caculating political machines,and Sanford’s story is quite unique,seems like he could be in love,??his romantic/poetic emails to Marie are on DU.
This 2 cents from a Mars in Scorpio…..
.

Being succint, FINALLY!

Hi Sonya,

You wrote:

“To me this whole sad saga is about some men and their fragile egos. They don’t want an accomplished partner. They just want a woman to be a rearview mirror and magnify them 3x times their actual size.”

Well Sonya, according to Steven Colbert, an investigative reporter out in the field, who happened to conduct a four minute interview with the governor last year - upon asking him some rather pointed, personal questions, Colbert found Mark Sanford to be motivated not by politics, money or women but by sheer boredom. Sanford admits unabashedly on camera that he enjoys his solitude. Take a look at the video clip and you’ll get a better idea of what really makes this man tick……….

http://tinyurl.com/cvkoxj

Jerry,

Well I read some of his emails to his beloved Maria (never going to do that again) and his own words today indicates more. Yes, he is bored. Bored with his perfect family and accomplished wife who was his campaigned manager and probably talked more about mundane things like Johnny needs braces and how the state congress is treating you.

Like I said, some men need women to magnify them, to stroke their egos. To tell them their the best even when they blow off their kids for Father’s Day.

Someone said a long time ago, that men fall in love because how a woman makes them feel (less bored) and woman fall in love because of the potential of their man.

Years together and most couples are dismayed.

“For the last question at his press conference yesterday, Obama was asked by CNN’s Suzanne Malveaux about his reaction to that [Neda] video and to reports that Iranians are refraining from protesting due to fear of such violence. As Obama was answering — attesting to how ‘heartbreaking’ he found the video; how ‘anybody who sees it knows that there’s something fundamentally unjust’ about the violence; and paying homage to ‘certain international norms of freedom of speech, freedom of expression’

Helen Thomas, who hadn’t been called on, interrupted to ask Obama to reconcile those statements about the Iranian images with his efforts at home to suppress America’s own torture photos (”Then why won’t you allow the photos –”).

The President quickly cut her off with these remarks:

THE PRESIDENT: Hold on a second, Helen. That’s a different question. (Laughter.)

The White House Press corps loves to laugh condescendingly at Helen Thomas because, tenaciously insisting that our sermons to others be applied to our own Government, she acts like a real reporter…”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×8492924

Sonya,

I gather from your response you weren’t impressed by the video clip or perhaps you didn’t look at it. It’s self-explanatory. Colbert was poking fun at him. The comments and piercing questions directed at Sanford were outrageous and funny. The point being - we take ourselves a little too seriously at times. There’s a social metaphor behind that. Perhaps it’s not in your temperament to see it that way. But I think it’s marvelous to break through the taboos and look at things from a totally different angle. Being methodically predictable can sometimes be monotonous and boring. Anyway, I just thought it was verry funny and a fun thing to share.

Yes, Helen is a true reporter and her question was valid. Yet we live on earth and not in a righteous heavan. How many Iranian military (who are directly involved in the violence in Iran) will be targets of terrorists trying to avenge her death as opposed to how many US soliders and ordinary Americans (who had nothing to do with torture and prison abuse) will become targets of terrorist attacks if these pictures are release?

Was it moral to drop the bombs in Japan in WWII to end the war quickly or to continue the Pacific War were thousands of more Americans soliders would have died because the Japanese Empire would never surrender. Not everything is black and white.

Its like the age old question, if you had the ability, would you kill Hilter as a child or let him grow up and make his own choices.

Jerry,

You lost me at “I gather from your response you weren’t impressed by the video clip or perhaps you didn’t look at it.” But when someone doesn’t agree with you, you have to ratched up personal attacks: “The point being - we take ourselves a little too seriously at times. There’s a social metaphor behind that. Perhaps it’s not in your temperament to see it that way.”

By the way, I just made fun of myself in the previous post, agreeing that I finally posted something succintly.

Like I said, you don’t know me and so far your post hasn’t displayed any interesting real knowledge. I normally skim thru your posts because they bore me, like listening to a bag of wind pipes out of tune. I only read the posts from you when my name is mention.

And for the record, I did view the video. Colbert was funny put Sanford was a typical politician saying “you’ve got to be true to yourself and the voters”. He couldn’t be true to his own wife and kids.

And Sanford without prompting keeping repeating “he’s such a solitary man, who loves being on the farm with his wife and kids”. Just the average politicians and his hypocrisy, hiding behind his family values mantra.

No he isn’t a boring man, he likes to skip Father’s Day with his sons and do the tango under the sheets in Argentina with his mistress.

I never expect politicians to be clean as the driven snow but when they hide behind family values and chastised other politicians for their failures- I see no humor in that. I just see children wondering why they aren’t good enough for the Dad to spend one freakin day with them.

Jerry, Hilarious, and it will probably be shown again and again in the next few days.

One last simple thought on relationships, sometimes they’re just over.

LJ, Get ready, the pope will be back on the front burner soon, this time we get to go to Rome!
I’m already giggling.

Sonya,

Yes. That is the problem in our communication. As you pointed out, very little listening going on.

What was lost in translation, was that what was shared in that video clip was journalistic humor, not intended for serious discussion. Since it wasn’t understood, I thought it would be helpful to clarify the content - no personal slant intended at all. Just suggesting that we may be looking at things differently and therefore misunderstanding each other. I think it might be better to let this go. The original intent and spirit of what was shared has been lost.

Sonya, Am I correct in thinking that mundane astrology isn’t your primary reason for reading/posting on Starlight?
Your comment on Jerry’s posts being boring leads me to think this.
He’s a very gifted astrologer who for years has tirelessly shared his astrology with this forum, and we appreciate him very much for his generosity and insight.

I

Helena,Claudia, Charles and all………..

Gold for cash??? what do you think this means in the scheme of things?

Was just posted on DU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?y=6JPcimrnXGA

“One last simple thought on relationships, sometimes they’re just over.” Joy

Exactly.

Joy, the link doesn’t work anymore. I’m not sure what you’re asking. Can you clarify?

regards,
Helena

Helena,

Posted on front page of DU, youtubes on left of page

“US to trade gold reserves for cash,”

Thanks,

Jon Stewart on Sanford tonight: “Just another conservative mind with a liberal penis.”

Hi Helena,

Point well taken! Excellent questions. I posted those general aspects for the July lunar eclipse, the most obvious ones - on the spur of the moment without taking the time to go into a thorough analysis. Now that I have a little more time to collect my thoughts, what speaks to me in the chart is the over all environment that sets the tone for Obama’s visit.

First impression was the Capricorn lunar eclipse conjunct Russia’s Neptune in the fifth house - it’s within two minutes of arc. For a definition of a lunar eclipse, I found the following explanation from Artcharts: “Eclipses have long been reputed to be evil omens; they get their rep because they are augurs of change. During a Lunar Eclipse the light of the Full Moon is temporarily hidden to our view, blocking our self-awareness, crashing our emotional-defense systems, and oversensitizing our emotional reactions. Faced with a sea of exposed irrationality, bouts of emotional insecurity are possible, especially in regards to where the Eclipse occurs in your natal chart. The Solar Eclipse location points to what you’re aware of, the Lunar Eclipse location shows where there will be the most obvious changes in the daily routine”- End of Quote - Capricorn, the domain of structured government with Neptune (15 Capr.) in the fifth house in close conjunction to natal Uranus (13 Capr.) may indicate the blurring of emotions and of rationality - great uncertainty. In a word, the ordinary protective security measures surrounding the President may be vulnerable to sudden, unexpected intrusions. Potential malcontents that can inflict harm.

The waxing lunar eclipse on the afternoon of the 6th conjoins Obama’s natal Venus in opposition to tr.Pluto. I see this particular aspect as life threatening. Pluto can be radical. The Pluto opposition to natal Venus is nearly exact. The powerful June 22 New Moon - Pluto opposition is also being activated at this time adding to the dynamic forces that could potentially bring about a radical change in circumstances . That sets the tone. The harsh angles of tr. Mars conj natal Vesta square to natal Uranus, natal South Node and square to the tr. Jupiter/Neptune/Chiron conj. suggests to me in material terms; sudden violence, anger, confusion and transition (Jupiter). The tr. Mars trine natal Saturn is another element that could indicate ease of entrance and intention for harm. Of course this is all open to interpretation. I could be misreading the nuances and subtleties.

Anyway, if you are seeing other influences that you would like to add or bring to my attention, feel free to bring it up in discussion.

Joy - In Sonya’s defense, I also feel there are too many posts with personal content and opinions along with mundane astrology posted here. I, too, find it tedious and overlook those aspects of the posts while I appreciate the informational content greatly.

Joy*

When I posted the Pope’s visit–I groaned! oh, here we go again, I can’t deal with the flowing robes and the Red Prada shoes–that remind me of “Dorothy”–on “her way to the yellow brick road”……The Pope must still be looking for his keys left over from the Ottoman Empire…I really cannot let my mind wander too far on this one….tonight. It is Rome–and “Three Coins in the Fountain”..just hope Michelle and “mama” get to go…love for those two ladies to have the trip…

Hi Jerry W and Helena
Your thoughts and insight about astrology, etc. helps me immensely. I look forward to your knowledge and its spiritual connections . I’m “sorta” an intermediate astrologer, I understand your information, but I could not find that on my own. Love your guidance. Commented before, you make me think, and that is wonderful for an Aries–who, really are only good for “doing”.. Thanks again….

Lorrie U
I have loved your personal posts, and miss hearing the animal stories, along with your spiritual insight.

**rc—Joy**
Personal comment

Where did we go wrong??–we should have “elbowed” our way in front of Condi. And I only wanted to borrow his “hats”- and we missed the Locket picture.. — This is “outrageous”..

Lybia’s Quddafi “Gave” Condi Rice $212,000.00 in Gifts and a Diamond Ring—

“”a locket with his own picture inside, according to a newly-released State Department report. “”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/24/libyas-qadaffi-gave-condi_n_220496.html

Joy, the utube is satire. lol

Lorrie @ 9:52 p.m., did you read Joy’s entire post @ 7:47?

Jerry, thanks for your comments. I did mention some other influences in my last post. Eclipses I don’t know anything about, but a couple of things I’ll mention: the transit of Uranus to the US natal Uranus in hard aspect and conjunction have coincided with the assassinations of three U.S. presidents: McKinley, Garfield, and Kennedy. Also the Civil War, and Hurricane Katrina. The Saturn Pluto opposition in 2001 was close to the US natal Uranus as well. So major events in the history of the republic involve transits to the U.S. natal Uranus. We don’t have that here. There’s also the US Sun which signifies the ruler or president, as you know, which I’ve already mentioned earlier: tr Sun conjunction, Saturn sextile. But, you may be right. We’ll soon see.

p.s. Today we had a transiting Sun Pluto opposition and transiting Moon square Iran’s Pluto . If I understand you correctly, we’re also contending with the new Moon Pluto opposition. The events in Iran today were particularly brutal. Police were savagely beating people and attacking them with axes. Unbelievable!

Hi LJ, thanks for your kind words. Astrology is fascinating!

Southern Govenors Go South to Buenos Aires

http://stateofthedivision.blogspot.com/

Soldiers Out of Iraq and Barbarians Move In!

http://peureport.blogspot.com/

Jerry,

I understood the humor in the Colbert video. Colbert was very funny and Sanford played along until the Confederate flag bit came up. He looked confused and played along with the barbacue sauce thing but reverted back to the solitary family man thing that most politicans do when they get a little touchy. And Colbert calling him boring- touched a nerve alittle. It crossed my mind, if his apperance on the show happened a year ago. Maybe he was indeed having a mid life crisis and was touchy about being called boring. I don’t think Sanford views himself as boring , he probably thinks he is a thinking man’s farmer.

Jerry, do you know when he appeared on the Colbert show? Was it a year ago when he started his affair with his Maria.

Joy,

No your are incorrect. I’m amazed by Nancy. She was very accurate during the campaign and I became hooked. And for me Jerry is a tad bit doom and gloom and I value accuracy over style. Plus a majority of the posts have more to do with politics than astrology.

I’ve always marched to my own drum. And I’m glad you and many others value Jerry’s insight. He is just not my cup of tea. But I do skim his posts, hoping for some interesting insights. Hope springs eternal but there are other fascinating people like LJ, RC and Helena to name a few.

P.S. Just because most people love the color yellow, doesn’t mean something is wrong when one person doesn’t. It is what it is. And it is still wonderful to live in a world full of diversity, where people don’t all believe in the same, look at the world the same or share the same interests or insights. As I always say whatever floats your boat as long as you don’t try to sink mine while yours is floating. Maybe I’m the happy feet kid.

Sonya said,
“Like I said, you don’t know me and so far your post hasn’t displayed any interesting real knowledge. I normally skim thru your posts because they bore me, like listening to a bag of wind pipes out of tune. I only read the posts from you when my name is mention. ”

“..whatever floats your boat as long as you don’t try to sink mine while yours is floating. Maybe I’m the happy feet kid.”

Huh?!

Hi Sonya,

I believe the Sanford interview took place in March of 2008. According to the governor’s own admission, the affair has been going on for several years.

I had an opportunity to observe Sanford at relatively close range for several hours when he attended a conference of ours at the hotel I work in (Myrtle Beach, SC). Although there was no personal interaction, my impression of him was that he seemed warm, engaging and dare I say ‘charismatic’. Leaving aside the moral issue, probably he’s just a little confused over his personal affairs, allowing it to spill over and interfere with his professional life.

Putting it in perspective, this may be a simple human interest story, a politician’s indiscretion gone array - the real news as we speak is the re-igniting of horrible violence and over-bearing brutality in Tehran, which seems to have escalated to a new level. My heart goes out to the Iranian people.

Helena, Jerry W,

I doubt this will help you in anyway since it is based on Vedic astrology. Although I don’t put stock in Vedic astrology, for I often find the Vedic astrologers I come across on the Internet to be wrong with their world/political predictions. However, maybe you can find some parallels to Western astrology concerning eclipses, particularly triple eclipses. Also, Jerry, with your love for and visits to India each year you might find this interesting:

Dark days ahead?
By: B V Shiva Shankar Date: 2009-06-22 Place:Bangalore

With a series of six triple eclipses starting July, astrologers predict tumultous times

The world will witness a series of triple eclipses, beginning next month. And astrologers are divided on this rare astronomical event’s effects.

The first series of the triple eclipses will begin with a lunar eclipse on July 7, followed by a solar eclipse on July 22, and another lunar eclipse on August 7. Six more such triple eclipses will occur over the next decade,
until 2020.

Back to back? The first in the series of triple eclipses will begin on July 7.
While some astrologers like S K Jain and Daivajna K N Somayaji say these eclipses portend disasters, others like K M Krishnamurthy predict no major changes.

Rare event

“It is a natural astronomical phenomenon and no significance can be attached to it,” said Krishnamurthy.

“Good and bad things are happening and they will continue to happen anyway. All I can say is that it is a rare astronomical event.

But said Jain, “The eclipse influences the sea level and the water content in the human body too. This will cause some variations in the body, which would lead to various problems.”

“When the solar eclipse occurs during Amavasya, it has to be watched. The Mumbai attack happened on Amavasya.

India was divided on Amavasya, if you remember,” he added. “So,S the effect of Amavasya during the triple eclipses would be threefold.”

Astrologer couple, Dr D K Hari and Dr Hema Hari, has authored a book on the triple eclipses.

According to them, triple eclipse series in the past have coincided with tumultuous times on earth. The first recorded triple eclipse in 3067 BCE (Before Common Era) coincided with the Kurukshetra war.

Disaster imminent

The destruction of the city of Dwaraka also coincided with another set of triple eclipse in 3031 BCE.

More recently, in the first half of the 20th century, there were a series of triple eclipses between 1910 and 1945, which coincided with events like World Wars I and II, the Holocaust and the nuclear bombings in Japan.
“There are positive effects of the triple eclipse as well,” said Hari.

“The Mahabharat gave birth to Bhagavad Gita, and after the World War II UNO was established. All bad things that happen are for the good and the ultimate effect of the triple eclipses will be
positive.”

http://www.mid-day.com/news/2009/jun/220609-eclipses-astrologers-lunar-eclipse-S-K-Jain-Daivajna-K-

Helena,

Actually, the 15 ‘24 Capr. July 7 lunar eclipse forms a t square to the US Sun (13 ‘19 Cancer) US Saturn square (14 ‘ 48 Libra). This is not a harmonious aspect by any means. There could be some unsettling events affecting the over-all mood of the country. If you recall, former Pres Ron Reagan’s death in June of 2004 coincided just as Saturn was making its approach, within a half degree of the US Sun. A period of national mourning over a period of six days came to culmination with a state funeral in Washington DC on June 11, the day of the exact Saturn conjunction to the US Sun. These degrees are sensitive to major transits.

Sonya said,
“Was it moral to drop the bombs in Japan in WWII to end the war quickly or to continue the Pacific War were thousands of more Americans soliders would have died because the Japanese Empire would never surrender. Not everything is black and white.”

um, my grandfather, a decorated bomber pilot, helped burn Tokyo to the ground in the Japan firebombings. One of my great uncles was part of the reconnaissance team in Hiroshima — he took the first photos there.

Both of them came to see their actions for what they were: the slaughter of innocent civilians.

My grandfather went to Mass every day, when he was able, for the last 25 years of his life in an attempt to atone his actions.

The karmic debt, so far, has spilled down 2 generations in my family.

Historically speaking, the real reason for these horrendous actions by the US, was the fact that the USSR was about to invade Japan from the north.

The Japan Firebombings and the Atomic Blasts were the first blows thrown in the Cold War. That they were a strategy to get the Japanese to surrender is an outright lie.

Read your history and get a frigging clue.

Marilyn,

Two different people with two different tones directed at me on the same topic. If one person is in an attack mode, I respond almost the same without crossing my personal line. If some just asks me a question in a simple tone, I respond accordingly.

Don’t you respond differently towards an angry boss than an ardent lover?

And why do people interject themselves into something that has nothing to do with them. I could see if they want to add their two cents, take sides. But huh, just sounds like someone wants to get the argument going. Ie. please clarify what you said again. I think I’ve spoken directly and clearly.

And I’m too old to waste my time repeating conversations. I will wait until dementia hits and apologizes to my friends and family when it begins. Hopefully I will remember to do that.

Jerry,

I think the friendship started eight years ago but the affair began a year ago. Thanks anyway for the date of the Colbert show.

Sonya,

Yes. You are right. I heard the figure five mentioned in yesterdays press conference, but because I was tending to other matters I didn’t hear it properly. I associated it with his affair. Going back through the transcrcript just now, I see it was related to his informing his wife of the relationship. He told his wife about the affair five months ago.

Referring to your comment just now about my being in attack mode - unfortunately you had misinterptreted what was being said. What is strange to me is that you were trying to personalise our conversations. In an effort to bolster your point of view you duplicated my sentences in a disjointed fashion, making it appear other than what was written. My remarks were taken completely out of context. The remarks should read in one continuous flow. Instead of two sentences combine the two into one……

“….Perhaps it’s not in your temperament to see it that way. But I think it’s marvelous to break through the taboos and look at things from a totally different angle.”

Anyway Sonya, I know you mean well, but it may be in our best interest sometimes to give people the benefit of the doubt. The video clip was a fun, spontaneous thing to share. You misunderstood the intent and so I found myself having to explain things further, and as a result, you took my remarks personally. I think we are both mature enough to acknowledge that there has been a genuine misunderstanding and then to let it go. I am not in conflict with you. We just see things differently. I think we can both accept that. As you had written earlier to another poster - to agree to disagree is ok.

Jerry,

Yes, let’s agree to disagree (hands clapping)! The only real problem I have in your posts are the comments about knowing me- like phrases, “I know you mean well”- how do you know that? Can you see my face typing? Or “you misunderstood”. You really don’t know my comprehension level or lack there of; and it is wrong for you to assume or presume too much.

As for taking your posts out of context, I just copy and paste. I took the first two sentence that dealt with me specifically and you took the last offending sentence and the following one. But you used that sentence to transit from talking about me specifically to the more general statement. You have this tiring problem of making your statement and upon my response attacking it.

And depending on which way the wind is blowing (what other posters are saying about the exchange). You either egg it on or try to turn around and act innocent and above it all.

Which makes me laugh and in my eyes makes you very small and sad (I was thinking of another word- since you know me so well-can you guess? Hint: it was my favorite word as a third grader.)

My one assumption about you is that I irk you. And maybe you sense that I think you try to pretend to be something you are not. The language you use is so formal as if you are a college professor in a tweed jacket, smoking a cigar, in a paneled library at Harvard. I don’t believe it. To me you seem too over the top, too polish not modern day conversational. As if you are trying too much. And I think to myself that you probably are a person, living in a small house, alone, with one cat and a room where too many old news papers are stacked all over, a TV set with aluminum foil serving as an antenna, wearing a beige sweater covered with stains as you are hunched over the computer monitor. The vibe I get is not authentic.

I could be totally off base, but I read people very well and the written word is apart of my passion and profession (albeit not using spell check often in my postings).

Umm, well I made two assumptions about you. I rarely divulge what I think of a person unless I’m asked and like them.

As for the video clip, it was amusing but my focus wasn’t on amusement. I was thinking about Sanford’s four boys. Something you should have already picked up on, I’ m passionate about children issues. And that what gets my dander up.

And since you have been so ardent in trying to peg me (no luck on your part). I’ll give you a big hint. Part of me is more like the Barbra Streisand in the movie The Way We Were. But as I tell my friends, there are many rooms to me.

Just a Little about Personal Diciplines,
IMHO, I have always found it interesting how humans that lead others, not all, but enough of them, have lost, or never learned the ability to Observe the Dicipline of Abstenance’.
In the older schools of Training the mind and body,This was the first ,and most important part of your training. The ability ,, to abstain,, the ability to block out,, the ability to control,, Your body and Mind.This desire for self satisfaction.
On my part,This type of training usually took place in the athlectic arenas, taught to students at a young age.
The Humans we speak about ,are of the Male of gender. It is “there “responcibilty and “none” others,to uphold and enforce these practices.
Having this ability can proove most benificial ,later in life,when the planets commence there trials,there tests, upon those that are to lead others.
A Man thing Indeedy.

June 19th article, but still has interesting History
Iran’s Ayatollah Under Threat

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/06/200961923416905779.html

China Firm Gains–Iraq and African Oil

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia-pacific/2009/06/20096258127542668.html

rc
You are sooo, right
and….this came from wikipedia {amazing!!}

Sanford attained the rank of Eagle Scout in the Boy Scouts of America.[

I consider it a “woman thing” too, rc.. Having the descipline to do the right thing for your own personal integrity, and also, to all those that you have made a commitment to.. I see many “wayward paths” are led by ego and selfishness.. You are right, if we do not learn this when we are young, we fail our adult tests..

Ahamadinejad Attacks Obama

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/26/world/middleeast/26iran.html?hp

Imploded Wall Street–Goes Lobbying

http://stateofthedivision.blogspot.com/

Are U.S. Embassies Really Stock-Piling Cash?

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2009/06/us-embassies-stock-piling-cash.html

June 24, 2009

Pentagon: No decision yet on North Korean ship

Pentagon: No decision yet whether to contact, request boarding of North Korean ship

http://wire.antiwar.com/2009/06/24/pentagon-no-decision-yet-on-north-korean-ship-2/

Hi LJ,, Nobody is Boarding Anything Until Bama Sais so”" He Is The President” !!
His Aq, rising, is of equal Match to Kimli’s Aq sun.

I believe , as Obama , has stated”" You Pitch em” and ” i’ll catch em”‘.. we shall see..we shall see..

rc
They are an equal astro match…and I think you have to watch a “Uranus ” ruled chart as Obama has–that lightening bolt strikes quick and fast, out of the blue!

Mark Sanford born 5-28-1960, Ft. Lauderdale Fla.
Looks like a Sun/Venus conjunction–loves himself
BUT his Jupiter is 1 degree 37 in Capricorn…and transiting Pluto is 1 degree 57 retro in Capricorn
Pluto has given his Jupiter a slam!

The Ensign/Sanford”" Connection”"–Christain Bible Study Grp?

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/revealed_the_sanfordensign_connection.php

rc !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Bees have spread their sweetness and intelligence all the way to Afghanistan…

Afghanistan OPENS its First Honey Processing Plant

http://www.rferl.org/content/Afghanistan_Opens_First_Honey_Processing_Plant/1732508.html

Hi,
What amazed me most about Sanford yesterday was how bad and how old he looks. The guy’s only 49! Someone said yesterday, he looked 60, and I think he did.
He’s aged so much just in the past year or so, gotten those huge bags under his eyes. And seemed like a man who could have a mental breakdown at any moment yesterday.
Seems like he was begging to get caught, given his behavior of the past week.
He did have a nasty fight with the Republican-controlled legislature this past year over Sanford refusing to take the federal stimulus money. Legislature sued to force him to take the money for the state, and the SC Supreme Ct ruled just last week that he had to take the money.
Right around the same time, his wife kicked him out, needing some time to try to come to terms with what he’d done and told him not to contact her during that time, she said in a statement yesterday.
I could feel sorry for him, if he hadn’t fought to cut health care for poor children, cut mental health services for the poor and fought against extending unemployment benefits right now when we have an unemployment rate of 11 percent, I believe.
The really sad part for SC is that the Lt. Gov. is a complete worm of a little man, not nearly as smart as Sanford, IMHO, and really just in love with himself and his own importance.
Bauer, the Lt. Gov., is the one who really got the whole scandal going by learning the governor was away for a few days and hadn’t put Bauer in charge during that period. He’s the kind of guy who’d salivate over the chance to be acting Gov. even for a few days.
I think Sanford is done as governor. He has no friends among the Republican power base here, and his term ends in 2010.
If the Republicans can force him out, Bauer gets to be Gov. and run as an incumbent in 2010. So it’s all win-win for the Republicans here.
(In case anyone doesn’t know, Sanford is a Republican, just not liked by his own in SC.)
–Teresa in Greenville, SC

Iran–IS Larijani the next Racinjani?
Watch Larijani

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-ghazvinian/iran-is-larijani-the-new_b_220378.html

Hi LJ,, Shhhh— the bees—–The Honey——Shhhh—– The flowers—–Shhhhh

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42757000/jpg/_42757961_afghanopium416ap.jpg

I Must say , in all sincerity,,
Welcome”"To the Magic Kingdom”"

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/06/68488321/1

“In Tehran, state television’s Channel Two is putting on a “Lord of the Rings” marathon, part of a bigger push to keep us busy. Movie mad and immunized from international copyright laws, Iranians are normally treated to one or two Hollywood or European movie nights a week. Now it’s two or three films a day. The message is “Don’t Worry, Be Happy.” Let’s watch, forget about what’s happened, never mind. Stop dwelling in the past. Look ahead.”

andrewsullivan@theatlantic.com

If this report is an accurate depiction of the regime’s intention and goal, then The Lord of the Rings trilogy was the wrong choice and the regime has unwittingly chosen a film that will inspire and motivate the resistance, rather than lull and distract. Iran is the land of Hafiz and Rumi, and lovers of poetry. I suspect that the symbolism within the LRT, particularly its central theme, will not be lost on Iranians, assuming people are even watching state tv in Iran.

LRT was released during the Saturn Pluto opposition between 2001-2003. Archetypally, one of the characteristics of this combination has to do with the wise use of power, its temptations and tests (personified by Aragorn). During Saturn Pluto transits, the duality of light and dark become extreme or polarized and that dichotomy pervades the film. The central theme or plot of the trilogy unsurprisingly reflects the nature of these archetypal forces.

The Ayatollah Khameini is under hard Saturn transits to his Pluto. His hold on power in Iran - symbolized by the ring - is being severely tested by a resistence movement from below and above within the clerical and political establishment. It remains to be seen as events unfold if the ring will be returned to Mordor and destroyed or if Sauron will prevail.

Edit: “clerical” should read “cleric.”

From Marjorie Orr on Korea and Iran:

North Korea - dates From: Marjorie. (25 Jun 2009 19:57):

There seems to be a difference of opinion about dates for North Korea. This is a reply from Robert Blascke which someone sent on to me:

”The September 9 mundane horoscope produces at this time a nearly exact progressed Sun-Pluto square which in my judgment, more accurately reflects the possibility for explosive violence breaking out on the Korean Peninsula than does the September 10 horoscope.
In two days Saturn will conjoin the September 9 North Korean Sun in 16 Virgo 19 and interdiction of one of its ships carrying illegal weapons on the way to Burma might be attempted by the U.S. Navy. The location in the South China Sea in which the U.S. Navy destroyer is tailing the North Korean vessel is precisely along the path of totality of the July 22 total solar eclipse in 29 Cancer.
I wrote an article about North Korea on June 1 which can be found here:

http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/tension-mounts-on-the-korean-peninsula

Iran Regime’’s Butcher - Mars Saturn Pluto From: Marjorie. (25 Jun 2009 18:51):

The Iranian regime has appointed one of its most feared prosecutors to interrogate reformists arrested during demonstrations, prompting fears of a brutal crackdown against dissent - Saaed Mortazavi, a figure known in Iran as “the butcher of the press”. He gained notoriety for his role in the death of a Canadian-Iranian photographer who was tortured, beaten and raped during her detention in 2003.
There’’s no birth date for Mortazavi yet but Zahra Kazemi who was killed possibly by him after being arrested in 2003 was born on 9 Oct 1949. She was a hopeful, visionary Sun Neptune in Libra opposition an Aries NNode square Jupiter in Capricorn. Her Sun Neptune also sextiled a powerful Mars Pluto in Leo conjunction - perhaps what attracted her into situations of danger. When she was murdered in captivity on 11 July 2003 tr Pluto was trine her Mars Pluto and oddly enough tr Jupiter was conjunct - so there was a good deal of planetary focus on that high risk point in her chart. Tr Saturn was also conjunct her Uranus. And her Uranus natally was 45 degrees from her Mars/Pluto midpoint so tr Saturn was also homing in on Mars/Pluto - which does rather describe torture, rape, beating and death. Her Sun = Saturn/Pluto = Mars/Saturn so she was in a way fated to walk into situations of great stress and risk.
(And Saturn Mars Pluto is exactly what dominates Ayatollah Khameini’’s chart in fixed signs.)
Roxana Saberi, the US/Iranian journalist released recently from imprisonment in Iran was also interrogated by Mortazavi. She has Jupiter = Mars/Saturn which may well have proved her saving grace.

“For one, the lunar eclipse at 15 ‘24 Capricorn on July 7 falls precisely on Russia’s natal Neptune at 15 ‘22 Capr.

What especially concerns me is the waxing lunar eclipse on the afternoon of the 6th conjunct tr. Pluto (1 ‘39 Capr.)” Jerry

Jerry, one needs to drill down a bit into the weeds in order to catch the differences between the “lunar elipse” and the “waxing lunar eclipse.” I’m still not worried, however. I’m more concerned about right wing extremists right here at home.

Helena
I do not see how Khamenei will maintain his power, believe he will go.

A Deal To Save Iran

“”Ahmadinejad’s presidential victory party last night drew less than a third of Parliament’s members, with Larijani a conspicious no-show—”"

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-06-25/a-deal-to-save-iran/?cid=hp:mainpromo2

rc,

As I was driving down the mountain today NPR was doing a report on the Smithsonian study of Bee’s that is now ongoing. The Bee’s at the White House garden are a strain that is resistant to CCD, and they are being studied as well. They also spoke of how important it is to grow heirloom varieties of wildflowers, as the good bee stuff has not been hybridized out of the blooms, sweet smelling nectar and all. Funny how they are making sure we are thinking about them.
~

I was not surprised to here about Sanfords love drama, my intuition picked up on it right away, but I think I may be right in hoping he is choosing a higher path. This one seems to be hitting him on a soul level, all the tears and such. Just a thought.

Either that or he is just retarded and having a high school love drama. Either way, he doesn’t seem fit to govern well these days. He has some soul work to do.

Helene your post on the Lord of the Rings playing on Iran tv is both bizarre, and amazing. Who’d a thunk it! So very timely.

I am enjoying all the sychronicities!

Is the Luau tonight? Something I look forward to reading about in the days to come….a lighter fare than what we as a collective have been immersed in recently.

I am really wishing the world would just lighten up a tad…..and enjoy the (((magical Kingdom)))

In my life eclipses seem to bring an end to old situations, and open doors to new ones, I say bring them on!

Farrah Fawcett died today. Now it is reported that Michael Jackson has had a serious heart attack and was not breathing when taken by ambulance–may be fatal. There must be some astrology pointing at these celebrities in this time span.

Well, let’s see, so far we’ve seen run ins with myself, Jerry, repeatedly, Clymela, and LJ, iirc. I may have missed someone.

What do people think? Is Sonia managing to convert this forum into the last act of Hamlet where dead bodies with fatal sword thrusts lie strewn all over the stage?

Sonia, I’ve been pondering this and it’s starting to look like a case of fragile and wounded self-esteem, or why else all the put downs and aggression? Confident and secure people don’t behave this way.

The LA Times states that Michael Jackson is dead. http://www.latimes.com/.

What is ‘astrologically’ going on?????

Holy moly Michael Jackson, icon of my childhood! All I can see on quick glance is saturn squaring his moon — anyone else??

I mean opposing his moon, of course.

Helena,

Count me in as a character in Hamlet.

I only wrpte one word, “Huh?!” and that was because I was stricken speechless.

The accurate discription of my reaction to Sonya’s remarks about my favorite poster (Jerry W.) was my mouth dropping open and a loud inhale of air noise.

Astonishment. Yes. Thats the word.

New Matthew’s Message 6/24/09. Of particular interest:

2. Now then, while Illuminati control of mainstream media has cracked, it has not disintegrated sufficiently so that information they do not want you to know is reported; nor is the full truth given of situations they would like to keep completely quiet but cannot. And you can be certain that nothing is reported that reflects the concerns of lightworkers who are distressed because President Obama has entrusted vital responsibilities to persons known to be affiliated with Illuminati power bases and some of his decisions appear to be strengthening rather than weakening those bases. Certainly the highly evolved soul that Obama is does not need our defense, and that is not what we are doing by explaining what he is dealing with. Our purpose in speaking of this is to state that not only is an individual’s balance disturbed by the energy of distress—or discontentment, disappointment, disillusionment, anger—but also that energy goes forth and adds to the negativity Earth has to transmute into light. Thus, far better than feeling negative emotions about what Obama appears to be doing is staying positively focused on the world as you want it to be.

5. As difficult as it is to imagine the extent of organizational complexity that is the Illuminati’s base of power and influence, it is even more difficult to totally eliminate it. Discovery and legal means to rid the world of that insidious control are underway, and until all is in readiness, it would be foolhardy to make public those efforts. Thus neither the Illuminati nor the Obama camp want their respective activities to become public knowledge, and the “transparency” he promised in good faith must for a while longer be “behind-closed-doors” instead. As the light continues steadily intensifying and truths no longer can be hidden or denied, you will see the results of his wise course that in this moment seems to belie many of his campaign promises.

9. What will the US do about the threat North Korea poses? You also ask about Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, the Middle East. Situations are not identical in those regions, but the outcome will be the same. For a while longer, saber rattling will continue and so will oppression, suffering, deaths and black-ops activities; however, you shall see Obama pursuing the path of negotiation, and in conjunction with the increasingly high vibrations of Earth’s pathway, peaceful resolution eventually will emerge out of current animosity, defiance and bellicose mentality.

More at link…
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=103&z=2

Saturn squaring Jackson’s saturn, opposing his moon, squaring his asc. And Sat. went over his sun/pluto conj. earlier in the year. Farah, Ed McMahon why does this feel like an end to the 80s on so many levels?

25 Jun 2009 05:13 pm
“The CIA Killed Neda”

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/the-cia-killed-neda.html

I loved Michael Jackson…it is a great music loss.

Lorrie U
thanks for the CIA post {and Mathew too–will get back to him} Remember, my Iranian neighbor said that police/military were from Arabic speaking countries–not all were from Iran..it easily could be one of those…at the moment I believe it to be only propoganda about the CIA–great for Iran to use!

Helena, Marilyn,
Sonya’s “second assumption ” about Jerry adds a very bizzare element to her thinking,/writing which also includes a passive -aggressive delivery.”Over the top! I say”
Please, let’s leave Katie Morosky out of this!

Helena, The Onion satire youtube on gold was interesting timing.
Will be reading your eclipse posts later, wondering where NK ship will be during the eclipses, 7-22 solar one is through Asia, but hitting N.Myanmar, not near the sea.

LJ, Still in shock about Mo’s gifts to Condi,granted there’s protocol to follow,and I can accept the diamond, but what the hell was/wasn’t thinking with the photo? Bet her and her boys had a good laugh over it.
He has been known to be very generous with some causes, famous and infamous.
After your great pope update, I can put him on the back burner again.

I have come to think that Sonya is working to disrupt us here-we do a lot of teaching and guiding each other we basically like each other and live with a code of kindness and civility. I was shocked when she unloaded on me but really startled when she did the same with Helena and amazed when she so rudely attacked Jerry who if wordy always has something very important to share. With her last reference to herself as someone like Barbara Streisand in “The Way We Were” I seriously wonder if she is an actual indiviidual or rather someone posing.
I suppose this is too much, too pointed but after I recovered from my own bruised feelings I have been thinking as this just goes on from one person to another. No reason to stay around if one doesn’t like what is found here

Jerry W speaks frequently of getting outside of one’s ego, and the need to overcome the fragmentation of the illusion of ego from the universal whole. This teaching is of course very Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist, and in some respects Christian.

Considering that many may go through thousands of years of samsara, to use a Hindu term, in order to achieve Moksha or Enlightenment; I don’t know if anyone has ever attained such a state. I have meditated over many decades, but never for longer than an hour at a time. I know what it is to at times be outside the confines of ego, to be an observer with circumstances without being caught up in them. The meditation especially works best when I don’t have large amounts of pressure and time constraints on me, and when I am not running days of tiredness.

Possibly that is why so many serious meditators down through history were hermits, or joined monasteries of like-minded people who often lived a way of life freed from the power, wealth, and passions of the world. Even here Buddhist and Christian monasteries and Hindu ashrams went through their periods of accumulated wealth, and the decadence and debauchery that often accompanied it.

I don’t know if a state of human enlightenment in the Buddhist sense can be achieved collectively, when it appears very few if any humans who have lived their life paths have accomplished such a thing. My goodness, even on this blog where we come closest to having a group of like-minded people who share pretty much the same values and political perspective; we have miscommunication, hurt egos, and others falling all over themselves apologizing for perceived slights. Certainly, Eric Holder is correct. We are unable to talk frankly and honestly about race in this country, which I think is sad but the reality of the situation. If we who share much in common cannot communicate effectively, honestly, and frankly without taking comments personally and without getting defensive, or claiming sensitivity; then how on earth can anyone think we Americans with our world and cultural view will be able to communicate with the communists world view or the Islamic world view where so much power, wealth, and conflicting values are at stake on the world stage?

Go back to the first two paragraphs of Starlight’s post for June 19th–the kingdom of God/utopia. We all have some ideal within our souls. Unfortunately, the kingdom of God or the secular utopias all become dangerous ideals when institutionalized religion or secular institutions and ideals become beliefs that must be crammed down the throat of others by the “true believers”. That is why I find partisanship a testimony to how little we have gotten outside the ego and how much we have the need to have our beliefs reinforced, and our values approved. How else can it be? Someone’s values are going to dominate a society or a shrinking global society. When I read bloggers for example who will tell Jerry W how they agree with what he says, and then in the next post revert back to “I hate this political figure”, ‘this political figure is the prince of darkness”, repugs, etc; I know how fragmented we are, and such partisanship only guarantees that such people if they had the power would definitely impose their values upon society. But of course, politics can not lead to redemption. It can not improve the world, it only changes it and often damages it.

Certain Christian groups look to the Second Coming of Christ to bring about the fulfillment of the Kingdom of God. Various New Age groups look to aliens who have been overseeing us for centuries to suddenly appear and usher in a new age for humanity. Others look for pole shifts to change humanity’s psychology and possibly the very nature of humanity itself. I do not pretend to know which of these if any will prove to be true. Maybe humankind will just continue to dredge on in the future much as it has in the past. Possibly what seems more viable to me is an Age of Aquarius ushered in by genetic engineering that will change homo-sapiens to homo-evolutians. Meditation and the seeking of enlightenment or the kingdom of God, etc may contribute to each of us living a more conscious and compassionate life, but in itself I doubt meditation or a few isolated beings accomplishing nirvana can bring about the kingdom of God on this earth.

Iran’s New Secret Voice

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8116825.stm

*Life is just so much simplier, when we “follow the Golden Rule”.. Agree to disagree, but do so by treating others with respect and dignity, no rudeness, hostility and personal attacks. It is such a waste of time and mind.

Sonya,

“I know you mean well”; meaning that you appear to be sincere. My intention was to clear the air. You were obviously incensed over a perceived ‘ personal attack’ and so I thought it would be helpful to address the issue and hopefully put the matter to rest.

You just went into a rather involved diatribe about how I don’t know you and that I shouldn’t make assumptions - and then proceeded on a very long dissertation on what you think I’m all about!!!!

Marilyn contributed her thoughts earlier (posted June 25th 2:03 am), sharing with you her impressions on what seemed to be the inconsistencies and contradictions in your views and statements. I shall do the same. In your own words……

“…….just sounds like someone wants to get the argument going.”

The “golden rule” are my thoughts!! and they are NOT the secret voice of Iran————-
but could be……………………..

Helena
special thoughts to you…and I never like Hamlet..

Michael Jackson, R.I.P.

Billie Jean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-blEgMyJwU

Stefanie - I agree. Holy moly. Time passes, eh? And looks like the aspects match the outcome. We’re about to take a little trip back in time over the next few weeks I expect. Good music, good art, good memories.

This is some of our “real ” problems

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=98952&sectionid=3510203

Saudi royals funded 9/11: Lawyers

Hi Lunagardener, I had no Idea that the Govenor was having an affair,, you have the line on this Mans Vibes,, My only concern is the state of Mental Health.The New Moo Plu is doing Its reaping, and i fear for his Safety…,from himself….
Should Argentinia decide to leave him in a fit (uranus entering aries)changed of heart……He WILL BE DOOMED.

Luna, Do you think it could possible to Lanscape a strip of Land,,, say 7miles wide,and about 3k in length.Starting at the Mid Atlantic ending at the Mid pacific…….an Ergo strip of Farm land…employing only hand labor….no machines….a self organised hive of Humans…..,:: I Do:: your Astro-agra knowledge has giving me confidence ,that we will soon have Enough Lunagardeners ,to make this a reality……. Your posts have rekindled my passion for this vision. A Path of Green.

Hi Jerry W, I thought of a little funny,you might appreciate ..Pick this up 2:56 into the vidio, end it(if you wish) at the close of Christine McIntyres wonderfull vocal “Ye must Leave,The black Prince is Lurking near,I will raise my shade,thy lovely shade,when the coast is clear…..Her voice is My e.tolle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6u7f9VyUj4&feature=related

The astrology of North Korea
Thursday June 25, 2009
Categories: Politics
by Lynn Hayes

Before you can have an accurate astrological profile, you must have an accurate date of birth. In a mundane chart of a nation this gets a little tricky. What is the moment of birth? Is it the moment that the nation is announced? Is it when the constitution is signed? Ratified? New leaders elected?

In my online research today I found several different dates used by astrologers for North Korea. There is a chart for August 10, 1945, the date that the US War Department decided to partition the country at the 38th parallel. There is a chart for September 10, 1948 which appears to have come originally from Nick Campion’s Book of World Horoscopes and is incorrect.

In my view, using the August 1945 date for North Korea is a bit like using the time of conception for a birthchart. Information from the US State Department and several Korean websites confirm that the actual birthing of the Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea (DPRK) was proclaimed by Kim Il Sung on September 9, 1948, and this is the day that is celebrated by the North Korean people as the founding anniversary.

Continued……

http://blog.beliefnet.com/astrologicalmusings/2009/06/the-astrology-of-north-korea.html

rc,

Looked at the video clip as you suggested. Sorry. I couldn’t follow your train of thought. Would you care to clarify?

Michael Jackson Gone!!

At the time of Michael’s death transiting Jupiter was in a nearly exact trine to Jupiter in his natal chart. Jupiter is the Great Liberator; the planet of abundance and good fortune. When death occurs under a transit of Jupiter, it is a signal that the soul will be freed from the prison of the body. While we mourn the tragedy of his death, the planets tell the story: his death was a liberation from a life that was painful beyond measure.

http://blog.beliefnet.com/astrologicalmusings/

Hi Jerry W. This sprung up from “The Hamlet “post of earlier today…my mind wandered about…Lucia sextet…. E.tolle….It is hard to describe for me verbally,,But music wise,,is my way to live and communicate…. in the zone…
I read “all”the weblog activity and i thought you might get a smile from my post.

….

Helena,

If you read my posts carefully I haven’t put down people (Jerry). I just told him what I think about him and his constant babbling and prodding about what he thinks he knows about me. I finally called him out on his behavior instead of continuing the silly exchange.

If Jerry wants to make frequent posts conjuring up his questionable insights into me. I just did the same. To me, turn around is fair play. Even though it is a juvenile and tiresome act of futility. More highschoolish than Shaskpeare.

Jerry seeks me out repeatedly for responses. And of all my posts, I only sought out his response one when I asked him a question (when was the Colbert show w/ Sanford was filmed) and thanked him for the information provided.

And as you join him in your put downs of me than that is more a reflection of the condition of your soul not mine.

Jerry isn’t my cup of tea. So what, big deal. I hope Jerry and you can deal with it and move on.

Our leaders in Chief+banksters should remember what happened to Marie Antoinette!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1194891/Pensioners-kidnap-financial-adviser-lost-2m-batter-Zimmer-frames.html

Jerry,

Yes, I went on a long diatribe about you. And I admitted that in the diatribe post and I’m admitting it again. And no, I wasn’t incensed about your “insights” into me. I found them strangely amusing and cluelessly offending. No one knows anyone really and especially on the internet. So it amuses and offends when some one who claims such powerful insights is totally clueless. And it amuses more as the go on making comments but not connecting the dots on how absurd their comments are and what they profess to be.

As for Marylyn’s huh. To my eyes the word huh doesn’t denote shock but confusion. And generally when someone says the word huh- they are seeking clarification. And as, I said, I believe the running posts between both of us was clear and I believe my posts were very direct.

It’s interesting that in my life people would fairly describe me as passionate and bossy. Since I write for a living, I’ve very aware that I can be too blunt and how language can be use to bring people together or use deceptively to put down others.

I find it so funny that the very people on this board who describe me a being passive/aggressive, misunderstood, lacking confidence are the very ones who are opaque. And it doesn’t even dawn on them that the connection of their passion for astrology which is opaqueness at the highest level and how they write (usually in vague generalities with veiled put downs).

I respect people more who will call a spade a spade instead of hiding behind words. Instead of saying my intentions was to clear the air. Why don’t you just say, Let me be clear instead of all this wishy washy stuff. I don’t know your motivations or character nor do you know mine. And at least I don’t repeatedly act like I do as you do. You have your impressions of me and I have my impressions of you. We can be both correct or we can be totally wrong. And in the big scheme of things, who cares.

As for the cymelia, she made a racist comment (young boys on city corners usually have a learning disability) and she veered way off track with her comments about Obama’s whiteness. Now my mother was 2/3rd white and looked like Irish women with red hair and freckles. Half of her brothers and sisters left to live as whites and never were heard from again. In coming from a parent with a mix heritage and watching the impact heritage had on my mother. The topic is so confounding; I don’t even think I am qualified to make a breezy and harsh comment on how someone else handles their bi-racialness. But a racist comment doesn’t necessarily mean you are a racist. In Obama’ race speech, he stated that his grandmother used racial epithets but loved him more than life it self.

But people on this board went over board in their defense of cymelia to denounce me and my posts and went a bridge too far to even proclaim that cymelia wasn’t even saying that the young men she describe were black even though in a later post cymelia herself stated that she was indeed talking about young black men. So that indicated to me that Jerry’s pronouncement that we are beyond race since Obama was elected President was laughable at best. Especially in light of the fact that these very enlighten board could not even handle having an intelligent discussion of race. And if this group couldn’t have an enlighten conversation- how does that portend for the rest of America. Race clearly does matter, it is our original sin and until we can have a honest discussion without whites feeling threaten that people might think they are racists, we will never move beyond it.

Do I think cymelia is a racist? NO. Did cymelia make a racist comment? Yes.

Sonya,

Again, referring back to your own words……

“…..You have your impressions of me and I have my impressions of you. We can be both correct or we can be totally wrong. And in the big scheme of things, who cares.”

If that is true for you, I would suggest that we move on. At the very top of this website reads the following words……

Nancy’s Blog/ connecting the dots in world affairs

The subject matter is clearly defined. The forum is designed for discussions revolving around astrology and current events. You’re placing much too much undue emphasis on personality differences and issues. In fairness to the others, it might be helpful to adhere to the spirit of this forum, which Nancy has clearly laid out for us.

By: rc on June 25th, 2009
at 7:47 pm

Hey rc, In truth I have no psychic connection to the philanderer Gov…..It is just so common these days…I doubted he was hiking the trail when I heard the report on NPR, it does not take much to figure out repub behavior.

My green dream is that when we learn the true art of instant manifestation, and when we can truly co create with nature intelligence, there will be little human labor needed.

In the meantime, some of the young ones who grew up in the gardens with me are just graduated from college with degree’s in sustainable farming! I think they are working on that dream as we speak.

Square heads at the round table! Perfect! The stooges were the John Stewarts of their era.

May the icons of the 80′ rest in peace.

I may be a nut case, but I am so reassured by messages from Mathew. Saves me from getting fearful of the dust ups over the globe, and with the Presidential choices being made. Holding the vision…..and admiring the bees. We should be thanking them at least 3 times a day for the work they do in nature.

N.Korean Cargo Ship ‘Approaching Moment of Truth’

The Chosun Ilbo
June 26, 2009

The North Korean cargo ship Kangnam that is being tracked by a U.S. destroyer due to suspicions that it carries weapons is steaming toward the moment of truth. “The moment is approaching when the North Korea sanctions framework led by the U.S. and North Korean provocations collide,” a government official said Thursday. Chances are the moment will come when the ship pulls into port, he added.

Continued…..

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/06/26/2009062600736.html

Jerry W,

Latest from Majorie Orr on Korea. I don’t have time right now to go back and check where your astrological calculations coincide with hers, but one thing for sure is that she is arriving at the probability of a clash in a couple of day with North Korea. Sorry, if the astrologers on which she based this conclusion have already been researched by you, but just in case there’s a nugget of information you have not seen yet:

North Korea data From: Marjorie. (26 Jun 2009 11:28):

An astrologer very kindly sent me the following: ”A very strong rectificaiton for North Korea was presented a while back, by Neville Lang of Australia.
His data: September 9 1948 at 5:27 PM, giving a 14 Aquarius26 Ascendant.
There are quite a few complications attending the Independence dates September 9 and 12 !
For noontime on September 12, 1948, we do get a 27Scorpio Ascendant, which is the Midheaven of China (October 1, 1949 at 3:15 PM in Peking; extremely reliable national horoscope). This point was strongly activated (by tr Pluto at that Ascendant) way back when North Korea announced having the capability of making an atomic bomb.
I”m sorry I can”t be tighter here technically, but we can definitely respect the Lang rectification on that point.
Noel Tyl

Comparing the Lang Rectified North Korea chart and the exact chart for the nuclear test (USGS is a great resource here!), one notices transiting
Pluto = Saturn/MC to 18 seconds of arc! Using 13 major events I came to the conclusion that Lang’’s
rectification is the correct one and very accurate: by primary directions in Topocentric system I
rectified it to 5.25.50 pm Asc 14Aqu02.

Beside Pluto exactly on Desc, heliocentric Mercury and heliocentric Mars are exactly conjunct MC and Moon, Mars 180 PAF- very explosive loaded chart! Currently, transit Pluto, in converse, is 180 MC. In the Korean War 25 June 1950, transit converse Pluto was 180 Asc. When Kim Jong-Il collapsed on 14 Aug 2008 and disappeared for a long
time transit converse Neptune was 180 MC!

There may indeed be fireworks in a couple of days as mentioned by Robert Blascke.

GoodMorning Lunagardener, Thankyou for a most excellent answer to my Queston. It brings me hope and Spirit to know that “sustainable farming” is a reality.
Ps, a little band of Bumble bees, has nested in the the herbal garden that i planted. I sit, in the early evening among them,Learning,listening.
Doing our part, to Keep That Dust Down!

Hi Sagitarrius,

For the benefit of other readers, here is that Robert Blaschke article you mentioned in its full text….

Tension Mounts on the Korean Peninsula
By Robert Blaschke | June 1, 2009
Mountain Astrologer

On May 25 North Korea conducted its second underground nuclear test and the next day, in addition to test firing short-range ballistic missiles, the isolated regime and international pariah unilaterally withdrew from its 1953 armistice treaty with South Korea.

Astrologers will observe that the June 1950 outbreak of the Korean War has now had its second Saturn return. Will hostilities continue to escalate?

Continued……

http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/tension-mounts-on-the-korean-peninsula

Jerry,

I skip your post all together than my usual skim thru. But I did she my name. As I been calling for since the last thread, let’s move on. But alas, we both have a problem in wanting the last word and being a bit like a dog with a bone. But I’m offically off this exchange with you because like I said in another post it is futile and in the big scheme of things who care- there are more pressing issues to concern ourselves with.

So in trying to be the adult, I will no longer respond to the multiple posts from mulitple people regarding moi. Godspeed.

White House Luau
Did not see Rahm get dunked and the the dog, Bo, should have been there–he would have caused more excitment!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/25/white-house-luau-congress_n_221216.html

Carlyle Grp–Easy Winner

http://peureport.blogspot.com/

100,000 rally against US in NKorea as regime promises nuclear ‘fire shower’ if provoked

http://wire.antiwar.com/2009/06/25/nkorea-vows-nuke-attack-if-provoked-by-us-3/

Interesting?
Iran supreme leader’s son seen as power broker with big ambitions

http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/thatseemsfair/latimes0227.html

Larijani Emerging as 3rd Iran Power Struggle

http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insightb/articles/eav062509b.shtml

Bernake Testifies and Astrology Takes Notes

http://starsoverwashington.blogspot.com/

LJ,

Here’s the link to Rahm’ in the dunk tank at the luau.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/25/746923/-LUAU

sonya

aahh! thank you

Sasha Obama was the star of the first-ever White House luau, wowing the crowd with a pitch so tough that the 8-year-old sank her dad’s chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, in the dunking booth, according to Sleuth informants who were there.

Dad, wearing a purple lei, followed suit, sinking Rahm on his first try.

Now that the Iranian ‘Green Revolution’ has been efectively stifled, the plight of those thousands of protesters arrested just got potentially unimaginably worse. Let’s hpoe reason prevails…….

Iran Rioters Should Be Executed, Cleric Says

June 26, 2009
Sky News

A senior Iranian cleric has called for the execution of “rioters” after a disputed presidential election sparked mass protests.

The nation’s top legislative body, the Guardian Council, has said it found no major violations in the vote, which it called the “healthiest” since the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

The council had already rejected a call for the annulment of the vote by moderate Mirhossein Mousavi, who has led mass protests.

The former prime minister was declared a distant second in the election behind incumbent President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - sparking the, sometimes deadly, unrest.

“They should be punished ruthlessly and savagely.” -Cleric Ahmad Khatami

“I want the judiciary to… punish leading rioters firmly and without showing any mercy to teach everyone a lesson,” cleric Ahmad Khatami told worshippers at Tehran University.

Iranian state television said on Thursday that eight Basij militiamen were killed by “rioters” during the protests.

Continued….

http://tinyurl.com/l35owh

U.S. Has Spies on the Ground in Iran–
Brent Scowcroft

http://rebelreports.com/post/129610205/brent-scowcroft-us-has-spies-on-the-ground-in-iran

lunagardener, I appreciate your perspective and the dialog you’ve inspired.

LJ, Karim Sadjadpour who was interviewed on “Fresh Air” recently mentioned that Khameini’s son’s is even more hard line that the father and that the crackdown was the son’ idea. The children on both sides (Khameini and Rafsanjani) hate each other, which reminds of the Montagues and Capulets. Got a Shakespeare thing going I guess. lol

Hi LJ,, Great Posts,, !!You are on Fire!!

Helena
Agree with you–and more cloak and dagger!/
Shows us , how they are interested in the power, and not for the good of the country and people. Old establishment Saturn, totally in the Negative.

Bouncing around the thoughts today!
FEMA Videographer Speaks Out About 911 !

http://judecowell.wordpress.com/

“Now that the Iranian ‘Green Revolution’ has been efectively stifled, the plight of those thousands of protesters arrested just got potentially unimaginably worse. Let’s hpoe reason prevails…….” Jerry

Stifled for the moment, which like Tiananmen Square under the Saturn Uranus opposition is not unexpected. As has been reported by multiple sources, Rafsanjani is working behind the scenes for the removal of Khameini and we don’t know the results of that yet or what is taking place behind closed doors. The trajectory this uprising is on is towards significant changes. As I’ve said before, the 1979 revolution took a year and this will take time. Uranus is inextricably bound - now there’s a Saturn word - with Saturn. Just as we think Saturn has triumphed, Uranus rises again!

As for the fate of the protesters…must pray for them.

LorrieU, thank you so much for the link to Matthews message. I found all of it interesting andit confirmed what I believe but especially Nos. 7 & 8. Thank you again.

rc
Just bouncing off the walls–there is so much news now! Scandals with Passion, secrets,,Bombings, Revenge, Revolt!!

Better off with lunagardener, in a green state, tip- toeing thro the tulips–with nature…!

More–Matthew The Astrologer and
Michael Jackson’s Death

http://matthewastrology.blogspot.com/

Hi LJ, The moon went Void at 8:28am est,, What insanity going on around me,, computers crashing,,people doing jobs twice, all kinds of stuff. Thank goodness ,moon entering virgo at 1:30pm……How do you find it so far,, Funny thing,,everthing Blew up at once…8:30am//!!

I am with you,, Off with the shoes,,, Its Tulip Time !!

Seriously, can you guys have your little snits elsewhere? If you don’t like what someone posts on here and they are a frequent poster, don’t read their stuff. You don’t have to announce you’re not reading it or why. Geez.

Almost this entire thread just about has been so much yuck back and forth and it really, REALLY takes away from Nancy’s points in her post.

Deepak Chopra: A Tribute To My Friend–Michael Jackson

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/a-tribute-to-my-friend-mi_b_221268.html

rc
Wow!, never thought I would be so happy to see Moon in Virgo coming…..Not the favorite of Fire/Air signs—But, thank you, for the reminder…. we can have–a clear, logical path coming–work–then throw off our shoes.

Hi LJ, I have been quiet on MJ, “The Magic Kingdom” Has a new director of entertainment…I can only say ,that, he is at peace….. That was a Uranus Lighting bolt!!!

Here’s where to keep track of the Single Payer issues and protests.
http://www.singlepayeraction.org/

Here’s where to get the numbers of your congress people and call about single payer. Just click on your state on the map.
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress

Has anyone read (or listened to on CD) the “Wreaking Crew” by Thomas Frank? The horror of what the neocons systematically did to the American public (and world) should send them all to the worst part of Hell forever! The history of Abramoff and his ilk is thoroughly discussed, and in MHO they should be listed with Hitler as the most vicious, destructive, cruel people to ever walk the face of the earth.

Jill G
I see that the book is $3.93/used on Amazon..I will buy it.. Altho, I have been hesitant, because I could not tolerate Tommy Franks–despise the man. Read “Life in the Emerald City–great book–about first year in Iraq..{corruptness/stupidity}Interesting, gossip about Hillary and Franks. they went to hi-school together, did they have an affair? Only gossip. Agree, the whole bunch is, vicious and cruel/evil, and really harmed us and the world..

rc
same thoughts on MJ, it will take healing time…

rc,

Regarding, the Three Stooges dance and song routine, Ok. Understood. I didn’t quite know what to make of it, other than your having an acknowledged appreciation for it.

Now here’s something in reciprocation…

About an hour ago there was a joint press conference with President Obama and Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel at the White House. The German chancellor remarked how much she enjoyed reading the Presidents book esp. the references Mr. Obama made of his half sister Auma’s cultural impressions of her time spent in Germany. When it came to Obama’s allotted time to speak, he shared his glowing admiration for the Chancellor and admitted there were some rather trying personal moments his sister had while in Germany that he wouldn’t go into, but agreed it was a very valuable learning experience for her. So what was the incident? I did a Google search and found the following URL link (below). First read the editorial commentary, then click on the link for a suggested remedy to the situation. If you like musical’s, this is very entertaining and amusing……

http://obscenedesserts.blogspot.com/2008/11/obamas-sister-on-german-tv.html

Stephanie…….Lest it be lost in the mists of time……..( like our support for the Shah in ‘59) I think it is important to note. The 80’s ended in 1989 for those of us over 50! Economically, there was a hostile takeover, and most of those over 50, could no longer expect to work another 15 years, and be presented with a gold watch at 65, we were downsized, early retired, laid off, the business model radically changed,to install the “golden parachute” to these younger execs. Over night, you had to have a college degree to get a job…..the majority of the older gen had not done that. They were used to being interviewed & hired on the MERITS, not their marks!
I heard so many stories in Maine across many different careers. ( Living is cheaper here, so we moved here.) I was doubling my money in a Smith Barney money market act., until they raised the minimum. Balance……………..The new 40 year old Pres, of Campbell’s Soup, ruined the economy of S Jersey & Eastern Pa. inabout 6 months with hisd-downsizing. Larry Summers was 46 at the time NEED I say more?………
I have been staring Disaster Capitalism in the face for 20 years now.
A large part of that is that my MC is exactly conjunct the “people’s moon” 27o aquarius. ( USA chart) The “people” loved and bought my artwork! ………….WHat the future holds I don’t know??????
until they were too squeezed to afford it.

Hi Jill G, The planets and stars , will not be kind to this group. My council ,would be to stay wide and clear of these folks…..

I was pondering the sign Aries, and what I think the keyword would be for anyone having the sign Aries, or the planet Mars prominent in their natal charts, and I think it is “spontaneity”. This is in addition to their famous pioneering instincts. The negative connotation would be “fools rush in where angels fear to tread”, and the phrase “spontaneous combustion” comes to mind.

Sad about Michael Jackson. He was an entertainment genius, a talented performer, and of course, an eccentric, and paid a high price for fame. The upcoming schedule of concerts that he set for himself was just too gruelling. Can’t see how he could have survived that. The Cosmos, in its infinite mercy decided that he needed a well-deserved rest. R.I.P. Michael.

Back to the Silence.

Beat It - Green Iran Version (Video)

http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/5971

Hi Jerry, I am currently mobile with my laptop, working off of local wireless,, I will be most pleased to view and examine your post tonight under a calmer environment..as to give it my full attention.
You have my curiosity peaked!!

Jill G - Thanks for the informative and proactive information.

DETROIT — City Council member Monica Conyers, the wife of powerful Democratic congressman John Conyers, pleaded guilty Friday to accepting cash bribes in exchange for supporting a sludge contract with a Houston company.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/26/monica-conyers-charged-wi_n_221408.html

This is hilarious!!

Limbaugh Blames Sanford’s Affair on Obama

LIMBAUGH: He had just tried to fight the stimulus money coming to South Carolina. He didn’t want any part of it. He lost the battle and said “What the hell? The Federal government is taking over! I want to enjoy life!”

And it goes on from there. Apparently, it’s all President Barack Obama’s fault, for killing people’s “spirit,” and making them so “fed up” with the SADNESS that they’ve got no other choice but to abdicate their grown-up responsibilities and start philandering “before Obama takes away their money” and “their house.” And Bill Clinton was in Argentina “the other night,” too! So everyone is going to Buenos Aires, for succor. It will be a marvel and a wonder if any 2012 contender hasn’t logged some serious time with Latin American mistresses.

More at link…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/25/limbaugh-blames-sanfords_n_220993.html

I knew it!–Not a good sign
Russia Horns in on China in Africa

http://www.upi.com/Energy_Resources/2009/06/25/Russia-horns-in-on-China-in-Africa/UPI-85411245943929/

Crystal
Aries
negative connotation would be “fools rush in where angels fear to tread”, and the phrase “spontaneous combustion” comes to mind.

You are sooo right. Only a smack on the “head” and learning thro experience has kept me from buying duct tape by the truck load and wearing flame retardent material but still difficult for an Aries to not “Jump” in.. The pioneering spirit, I would not change tho—You are Great, loved it–lol

Lorrie U
So sorry to hear about Monica Conyers,,I really like John Conyers.. too sad again for a family.

How Long Will It Take?

“I know you are asking today, “How long will it take?” Somebody’s asking, “How long will prejudice (lust for power) blind the visions of men, darken their understanding, and drive bright-eyed wisdom from her sacred throne?” Somebody’s asking, “When will wounded justice, lying prostrate on the streets of Selma (Tehran) and Birmingham (Shiraz) communities all over the South (Iran) be lifted from this dust of shame to reign supreme among the children of men?” Somebody’s asking, “When will the radiant star of hope be plunged against the nocturnal bosom of this lonely night, plucked from weary souls with chains of fear and the manacles of death? How long will justice be crucified, and truth bear it?” I come to say to you this afternoon, however difficult the moment, however frustrating the hour, it will not be long, because “truth crushed to earth will rise again.” How long? Not long, because “no lie can live forever.” How long? Not long, because “you shall reap what you sow.”

“How long? Not long, because the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.”

Martin Luther King

This speech was delivered in March, 1965, under Saturn opposing a Uranus Pluto conjunction, and Saturn trine Neptune. I was struck by how the speech is suffused with the themes and imagery of these planetary archetypes, particularly the hope distilled out of despair and crushing defeat, and verbally dressed in exquisite poetry.

House Passes HR 2454: Waxman Markey Energy Legislation

http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/26/breaking-house-passes-waxman-markey-energy-legislation/

Lorrie,

The Limbaugh piece blaming Obama for Sanford’s affair is absolutely surreal! Can’t someone just step on him? His mouth is like a flapping rectum; he shits through his face!

Made me laugh Lorrie; made me laugh!

Will,

You would need someone like Shaq to do the stepping. Rush would probably pop like a waterbug.

Hi Helena,

To follow up on that theme ‘How Long Will It Take?’

The controversial June 13th Iran presidential election announcement that sparked the protests and violence occured on the same day as the Moon joined the Jupiter/Neptune/Chiron conjunction at 26 Aquarius all in semi-square to the Iranian Sun. Refer to article:
http://bluecray.blogspot.com/2009/06/moon-conjunct-jupiter-neptune-chiron.html

With the Moon’s monthly voyage around the zodiac, one month later we will witness another such Moon conjunction on July 10th, just as Jupiter and Neptune conjoin to exactness. Once again those forces for change are coalescing. This time however, Jupiter will be in retrograde motion - a period of reflection and re-evaluation may have had time to settle in. I may be getting way ahead of myself on this, but I would venture to guess there could be a significant change in direction in this national crisis by the time we arrive at the July 10th date.

Lorrie,

Re: Shaq; I hear you.

God how I would enjoy taking Rush out to the wood shed and giving him a complimentary and most- excellent ass-blistering. Me, a nice, snappy oak switch and his big, angry, accusatory, judgemental ass. Color me perverse.

Such wonderful posts today….Loved the Luau link LJ a thousand thanks from a busy gardener, I loved the littlest Obama and the Peace T-shirt~

It is all turning to mush at this end of a long hot sweaty week….but to Starlight, Jude Cowel, Jerry W, Pat C, Helena, rc…and all the rest who join in here, it s so evident that we have all just jumped another timeline at this Solstice juncture.

The MJ Green Iran video, Wow!

I intend that one day Iranian leaders will be holding silly Luau type gatherings, and will be dancing together MJ style soon.

Hi Jerry W, “The Incident” with Auma. If i keep it simple ,absorbing only the music, I would say that she got pregnent while in Germany. I will then surmise that she termed the baby.
If i go deeper into to this , i would gather that, some how she got tangled up with Gloria…..along the way….
Resulting in Glorias outlandish comments, as retribution towards Auma.
I am probrally all wet , but thats my final answer!

Dear ‘and that’s my final answer’,

Kinda knew they were connected - wasn’t sure what the connection was though. What’s impressive is that Auma lived in Germany for 16 years and speaks fluent German. Viewing her appearance on a German telev. talk show, she seems extremely intelligent and self assured. I gather ‘Barry’ and Auma stay in touch. Hope you enjoyed the Monty Python video clip.

Jerry W, WHHHOA, They Kept the Babe!! Outstanding Jerry…Of Course Monty Python!!

Hi Joy,, I am not sure ,But I believe that the Light Has Arrived ….On Schedule… I will post an Article from our regions Newspaper.
They are telling the residents “dont be Alarmed”

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090625/NEWS01/906259995/-1/XML07

Envoy To Co-Ordinate N. Korea Sanctions

Hoping to give more teeth to international sanctions against North Korea, the Obama administration has named a senior diplomat to lead a task force coordinating Washington’s political, military and financial measures against its government.

The diplomat, Philip S. Goldberg, will travel soon to China and other countries to drum up support for the sanctions, which are aimed at strangling North Korea’s access to the international financial system and its shipments of missile and nuclear parts, administration officials said Friday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/27/world/americas/27diplo.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Well—-read that Hillary would stay in background? and the Envoys and Ambassadors would be in the front line…will see what the future holds?

Iran Leaders–Ahead of Protesters?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/27/world/middleeast/27iran.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Jerry, thanks for your thoughts on the lunar conjunctions on July 10th. I would be more sanguine about the lunar transits except for the precarious position Mousavi is in as a leader of the opposition and the brutality of the crackdown in recent days. So that, and transiting Mars @ 28 Taurus conjunct his Saturn Uranus, it looks like that week for several days leading up to the exact conjunction will be critical and he will be under enormous pressures, if not danger. Perhaps, the lunar transits mean an influx of energies from the inner planes that will buoy the protesters.

Helena

July 10th–2nd. Jupiter/Neptune Conjunction and Obama visits the Pope… And read this whole article–On again/off again of the revealing of the ark?

Neptune Strikes Again - Ark of the Covenant Not To Be Revealed After All

http://www.aquariansolutions.blogspot.com/

*Also, have you are Jerry W looked at the possibility of Ahamadinejad being impeached or assassinated–, if I remember correctly Saturn does affect his Venus–have to ck again/further his planets…thank you.

typo—sorry
Helena
you “or” Jerry

this is “interesting”" too, with Jup/Nep/Chiron conjuntion

World Religious leaders Hold Their Own G-8

http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/06/18/world-religious-leaders-hold-their-own-g8-summit/

Helena
Sorry that article goes on and on!
Ahamadinjad 10-28-1956 in Garmsar Iran
Sat/Jup conjunction in Virgo and Saturn transits 9-18/19-09 and does that square his Moon at 26 Leo?? As a novice, that does not appear as good luck to me? Thank you again for your consideration.

Helena,

In response to your post from last week. Yes, I am familiar with Raymond Merriman. In fact, as you can see, checking his Saturday post is always the first thing I do when I arise from my slumber each Saturday morning. I also subscribe to Merriman’s Annual Forecast book, which I would encourage everyone to do. He usually begins to take pre-orders in July, and delivery for the next year begin about December 15th.

This sounds ominous for the economy, (Is this earthquake tsunami meant to be taken literally, which will lead to economic repercussions, or is he speaking metaphorically about the upcoming economic meltdown?) As we know the federal reserve is also in for some major overall. It sounds like late July is the beginning of the end to the illusion of economic “green shoots”, and beginnning of the major overall of the Federal Reserve and its independence and lack of transparency. I still would like to see it annihilated, but Starlight had posted earlier that whatever the changes it probably would not go that far. An economic Tsunami may change that.

So many astrologers are predicting major conflicts in July that will make June look tame in comparison. The departure of Jupiter/Neptune from each other will also bring about what has passed as a season of “feelings of love”, and be replaced with shrill rhetoric that will begin to reach a season of cacophony:

excerpt

http://www.stariq.com/marketweek.htm

It is classical Jupiter-Neptune: “big fog,” wondering when the landscape will become clear. Talk about “climate control.” Two more weeks, as the second passage will be completed on July 10. The big question is what the social, financial, and political landscape will really look like after that fog lifts. The realization is sinking in that this is not the same world we once knew, for better or worse. We are already realizing that the “green shoots” of economic recovery don’t seem to be continuing. Was it all a mirage and “wishful thinking?” Jupiter and Neptune.

Short-Term Geocosmics

The peak of the Jupiter-Neptune experience may be most evident in the next two weeks—not that anything involving Neptune is ever too evident. Well, let me correct that. The feeling of “love” may be evident. But it is not likely to be real, except insomuch as one “feels” it. Neptune rules infatuation, not necessarily the “real deal.” And with Jupiter involved, infatuation with something may be way over the top, for these two in combination is not considered a dynamic of good judgment. For this week, we find Venus making a waxing square to the Jupiter-Neptune conjunction on July 1, followed by Mars doing the same on July 6. The second Jupiter-Neptune conjunction itself takes place on July 10. So the first ten days of July are a lot of Jupiter and Neptune, or exaggeration of dreams and tears. There are going to be at least two high profile funerals. And with Uranus changing directions in Pisces also on July 1, there may be another sudden shock to the world during this period. Uranus rules high winds, tornadoes, and earthquakes. But taken within the context of Jupiter and Neptune, the symbolism is more like a tsunami. It may be way off from land as it starts. People may not be aware of the power that is about to be unleashed. But by the time it ends (say the second half of the month, or even second half of this year), the force of a tidal wave may be too great to ignore. For now, we can only observe the decisions being made and hope that they are well-thought out and wise.

Longer-Term Thoughts

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.

Thomas Jefferson, 1802 (per email from M. Tamoroff of Tamoroff Dodge/Chrysler dealership).

Last week’s New Moon was in opposition to Pluto. It was on the natal Venus in the U.S.A. chart (July 2, 1776) and natal Pluto of the Federal Reserve Board (December 23, 1913). As stated in last week’s column, “The theme of this New Moon, therefore, will be the transformation of the role and power—and even survival—of the entity (Federal Reserve Board) itself.”

So what happened last week? The headlines of Friday’s Wall Street Journal blared out: “Bernanke Blasted in House: Political Heat Mounts on Fed as Grilling over B of A Shows Ire at Its Interventions.” On Thursday, FED Chairman Ben Bernanke was interrogated intensely by Congressmen who were highly critical of his role in the handling the of financial crisis last September and the subsequent reshaping of the banking system, which attempts to grant the Federal Reserve (and Bernanke) more powers. This development is not a surprise to readers of this column or those familiar with the Forecast 2008 and 2009 books, or even the recent webcast given on May 2 about this very issue. Pluto is crossing the Federal Reserve Board’s Sun now—at 1 degree of Capricorn, and opposite its own natal Pluto at 0 degrees of Cancer. This past week’s New Moon at 1 Cancer touched off this configuration. Venus in the USA chart rules its currency and net worth.

FED Chairman Ben Bernanke was born December 13, 1953, Augusta, GA, time unknown. As stated in the Forecast 2008 (written November 2007, one year before the crisis began)—and repeated in the 2009—book, “In 2008-2009, the Saturn-Uranus opposition will make a Grand Square to Mr. Bernanke’s natal Sun-Jupiter opposition (possibly involving his natal Moon too). In any event, such a planetary configuration implies a period in his life where everything may seem to come apart. With Uranus, things do not go as planned. With Jupiter too, things can spin wildly out of control…. With Uranus and Saturn T-squaring it, his status suddenly comes under questioning. This can become a very troubling time, leading to impulsive decisions and actions that end up affecting his position…. Whatever the case, it seems that the Federal Reserve Board, and in fact the entire banking system of the United States (and possibly the world) are in store for a crisis in late 2008 through early 2011.” The Saturn-Uranus opposition forming a grand square to Bernanke’s own Sun-Jupiter opposition (21 degrees of mutable signs) is probably peaking within a few months in September 2009.

Will Bernanke and FED survive this? No one knows for sure, but the planetary configurations strongly suggest a major shake-up in the powers of the FED. We already know that one side wants to expand his powers and that of the FED, whereas another side want to kill the FED altogether. The USA has been through this once before, in 1834, when President Andrew Jackson abolished the nation’s central bank. It happened at a time when the Federal Government finally attained a budget surplus for the first time in the country’s history. Saturn was in opposition to Pluto at the time, a point in the cycle that tends to coincide with peaks in economic activity from whence things then fall apart. Within eight years, as Saturn formed its waning square to Pluto, the USA was mired in its worst Depression ever up until that point. From the surplus of 1834, it proceeded to acquire its highest debt ever by 1842, to the point that it could not pay its treasury bond obligations (yes, the USA defaulted at the time).

So here is the similarity this time. As Saturn made its last opposition to Pluto in 2001, the USA government also had a budget surplus for the first time in many years. But now, as we enter the waning square in 2009-2010 eight years later, we have our worst deficit in history (again). Back in 1834, at the height of prosperity, the central bank of the USA was abolished. Now we are in the midst of a financial crisis, and once again the existence of the central bank is being called into question (House Resolution 1207, the Federal Reserve Transparency Act, sponsored by Congressman Ron Paul). It is like the economic circumstances are reversed this time as the central bank’s survival is being debated. For investors, the only thing that seems certain is this: if the uncertainty of the existence of the central bank (FED) grows, it will probably lead to a sharp sell off in equity markets around the world, and probably the U.S. dollar as well.

In the meantime, we watch as the USA banking system is entering a very critical juncture. We watch as history is being made, as the chairman of the Federal Reserve is being accused of a cover up and abuse of power, two powerful themes associated with the transit of Pluto over the FED’s natal Sun, opposite its natal Pluto. We watch as the FED tries to explain what it did and why it did it, and where trillions of dollars have disappeared. We watch as the FED – the central bank of the United States and arguably the most powerful bank in the world - may be audited. But by who? Who can really audit the FED? It’s independent. At least for now.

Hi Sagitarrius.

Merriman’s analysis confirms everything that I’ve been feeling. The June 22 New Moon has activated a cauldron of dormant energy and I suspect it come to crescendo with the July 7 lunar eclipse. The July 7 - 10 window may witness that tsunami Merriman is referring to. And strange as it may seem, I have reason to believe that we will arrive at some form of spectacular and profound resolution to all this on the 10th with that multi-faceted Mo/Ne/Ju/Ch conjunction. Will elaborate further in a later post. Thanks for sharing Merriman’s report.

Carlyle Group Affiliate Bribed Rep. John Conyer’s Wife

http://peureport.blogspot.com/

{maybe they set her up??}

Congress Fails the People on Healthcare

http://stateofthedivision.blogspot.com/

Sagitarrius/Jerry W

Believe David Rubenstein–Carlyle Grp. predicted great losses too–and does Larry Summers want Bernake’s JOB? heard that along the way……..

Typo/ Read instead: “and I suspect it may come to a crescendo…”

Obama Issues Signing Statement on War Supplumental Spending Bill

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/27/obama-issues-statement-on_n_221821.html

FBI Ignored Osama bin Laden’s Role
and remember John O’Neil/McNeil?

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/43980

Marjorie Orr’s latest on North Korea:

North Korea - aggravated Mars midpoints From: Marjorie. (26 Jun 2009 18:01):

Assuming the rectified NKorea data is accurate then there is a highly unstable, high risk feel about the situation over the next eighteen months. Several of the NKorea Mars midpoints are very stressed this year with tr Pluto just off the over aggressive trine to Mars/Uranus and Pluto is now exactly on the square to Mars/Saturn from June 23rd which is life-threatening till early Aug 09, repeating mid Oct to late Nov 09. Tr Pluto is also opp the NKorea Uranus from early Aug to mid Oct 09 which suggest everything is going up in the air with major disruption.
Where the first peak of real strain with the USA shows up on the charts is late July into Aug 09 with tr Saturn hard aspecting the volatile Saturn square Uranus on the NK/USA composite - and that is the point anyway when the USA chart has tr Saturn square Mars and conjunct Neptune which is angry, edgy and very concerned. The really major worries come into 2010 as tr Neptune oppose the composite Mars - so whatever transpires it won”t resolve in a hurry.
South Korea looks panicked about its neighbour thro” July/Aug - and again major concerns into 2010.

The NK/UN composite chart also point to Sept/Oct 09 being very tense and explosive.
There’’s no doubt that NKorea is in an aggressive mood with tr Pluto sextile the NK Mars in Scorpio although the exact aspect of that does not return till Dec 09 into 2010.

The astrology is complicated by the fact that Kim Jong the leader may well die and his succession is still not clear. So some of the above may reflect internal changes as well as external posturing.

Hi Sagitarrius,

As promised, here are some thoughts I put together, elaborating on what Merriman had written……

First, a little background may be helpful.

My return from India this past January has been a very different experience in many respects from previous years. It hasn’t followed the normal cyclical pattern. The business slump has hit especially hard here, a tourist industry normally thriving this time of year. People are definitely spending less - and as a consequence, my usual annual tryst overseas that begins in the summer has been temporarily put on hold. I’ve had to reflect on a number of occasions whether this was to be squarely blamed on my not being industrious enough or perhaps my timing was off. Though it does seem to be part of a larger phenomenon - a collective experience - a sign of the economic times.

Anyway, after deliberating on this for many an anxious hour, over a period of months, I’ve begun to sense that some unseen hand is purposely putting me in a holding pattern. It feels as though the restraints are there to allow maximum leisure time, for purposes of going further ‘within’. It’s also an indication that all is not what it seems. Outward events may appear calm at the moment, but as Ray Merriman bluntly reminds us, though the rumblings of an economic tsunami may be hidden from the naked eye, it’s just underneath the surface ready to pounce on us at a moments notice when we are least aware.

To many Baba lovers around the world, the date of July 10th is especially significant. It is the day Meher Baba began observing silence. The year was 1925 (Baba is recognized by many as the Avatar, the God Man of this age). He maintained that silence throughout the years, until his passing in January of ‘69 (using the medium of an alphabet board and his own unique brand of hand gestures to communicate). Every year, for purposes of his ‘universal work’, he would often request his lovers to maintain silence on that day; on July 10th. Not always mind you. It depended on the requirements, the inexplicable nature of what he termed his ‘internal working’. He often said of his self imposed silence - that when he broke it, it would bring about radical changes in the world. The breaking of his silence and the spiritual transformation of human consciousness he said, were contingent on humanities desperate need for help; as he said it would occur at a time of great world conflict.

Hence, the signifcance of July 10th. It is possible this could prove to be a crucial, pivotal date. The spiritual connection to that date, as well as the astrological aspects appear to be converging (Neptune/Jupiter denoting a heightened spiritual awareness). The Moon/Jupiter/Neptune/Chiron conjunction of July 10th may hold a well-spring of transformative spiritual energy that conceivable could change everything in the twinking of an eye. For further information on the unique nature of Baba’s silence, one of Baba’s messages can be read here…..

http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/erics/univmsg.html

Typo: Read “that conceivably could”

Sagitarrius,

That is a substantial and thought provoking post.

First, I agree with Merriman that the “green shoots” that some think is happening is wishful thinking.

What we know is that the administration’s actions to regulate the banking industry has been timid and has not taken on the significant structural problems in the economy, i.e., credit default swaps, which Warren Buffet called “weapons of mass destruction.” They have not broken up the banks which are “too big to fail” thereby leaving the U.S. taxpayers vulnerable to future and massive transfers of wealth to the banksters. Thomas Jefferson is looking amazingly prescient when he says: “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.”

Merriman:

“It seems that the Federal Reserve Board, and in fact the entire banking system of the United States (and possibly the world) are in store for a crisis in late 2008 through early 2011.”

These dates coincide with the duration of the Saturn Pluto square and the t-square with Uranus, last seen twice in the 20th century: 1964-1967, and during the Great Depression of the 1930s, and the French Revolution of the 1790s. I apologize for repeating myself on this point. So, we’re looking at historically periods of great upheaval and turmoil. I believe the Jupiter Neptune transits cannot be read apart from these massive transits that are upon us for the next several years that provide a larger context.

Starlight has written about the Pluto transit to the US Venus which indicates that the U.S. dollar is under threat. Russia, China, and other countries are working to move away from the U.S. dollar as the world’s reserve currency.

The Wall Street crowd and their allies on CNBC, remind me of Little Red Riding Hood looking at the wolf concealed within grandmother’s clothing. They want to see their benign and familiar grandmother (Jupiter Neptune), but what they are in fact being confronted with is the wolf (Saturn Pluto).

As for the “earthquake tsunami,” what we’ve seen during the Saturn Uranus opposition is a number of bridge collapses, airline accidents, and accidents due to aging and deteriorating infrastructure. This is the combination that coincides with the collapse of structures, which has been playing out as noted above, as well as in our institutions, political, economic, and cultural/social. The issue of gay marriage and the recent set back with the Prop 8 ballot measure in CA is a good example of the latter.

Ben Bernanke iirc, also has Mars in major aspect to Neptune and Uranus. Mars Neptune in hard aspect can manifest as leading a double life. It can show a capacity for intrigue and deception. Bernanke during this economic crisis has been involved in off the books transactions, i.e., Maiden Lane, all without any accountability or transparency. He’s a gambler and a risk taker and prefers to operate independently according to his will. (Mars/Uranus, Sun/Jupiter)

The transits to the Fed’s Pluto Sun, shows that there is a power struggle going on. The legislation in the House has strong bipartisan support. In fact, it’s one issue where conservatives and liberals are joined. I don’t know if Bernanke will survive as Fed Chairman. Merriman is right that there is a major shake up going on, but if Larry Summers takes his place, that’s not any improvement.

Last thought, if the administration and his economic team change course and follow what the planets indicate, which are radical structural changes in the U.S. economy, we will still experience a period of turbulence, but the recession will be shorter and the recovery sooner. Saturn Pluto in its best expression clears away what has outlived its usefulness and fosters the establishment of strong and lasting structures.

LJ, responding to your June 24 11:34 p.m. post

First, you don’t mention a TOB for Ahmadinejad, but then later you indicate his 26 Leo Moon. Are you using a random 12:00 noon birth time?

I want to back up a little to the June 12 election because I think it’s relevant. On that day, transiting Saturn opposed Ahmadinejad’s Mars, and transiting Uranus opposed and still does his Jupiter, which supports the contention that he lost the elections and accounts for the sudden turn of events against him and the regime (Uranus/Jupiter). As you’ve pointed out, Saturn will conjoin natal Jupiter in September which tends to put the brakes on his expansion and success, and/or reinforce his conservative beliefs. From there, Saturn moves to conjoin his Venus, indicating a continuing decrease in his popularity, and possibly financial ramifications. That is also indicated by the Pluto transit to his Saturn influencing financial matters and self worth. Although the Jupiter Neptune transit will retrograde and trine his Mercury for the next few months, these other transits suggest to me that he is not as confident and self-assured as he appears about his position or status. He believes what he wants (needs?) to believe. I think he is misreading events and the significance of the resistance and the Jupiter/Neptune trine to his Mercury is aiding him in that respect.

There is still an operative Uranus opposition Jupiter so his prospects may change suddenly and dramatically, particularly when combined with Saturn clamping down in Jupiter.

I won’t comment on transits to his Moon since I don’t have a time of birth.

Thanks for the discussion.

Helena
Just have a quick moment right now–Thank you very much–for your great insight. I used 12/noon for TOB. have no real time…Agree with you concerning Ahamadjinejad. I believe he is overconfident and will see a “loss of love”.!. I would not be surprised if he does go by the wayside in some form or another… He is a 5 path–over confident, and funny all the 5 path men I have known or my 24 yr. old daughter has known–”fool around”, there is always another woman in the background, that is a “secret”.. But we will see by Dec. what happens further…
Thank you very much
Larry Summers would not be a Fed. Reserve Head–dreadful, I think. Bernake has been shady too, I think. All of the financial dealings seem nefarious and not quite transparent. I believe they have not helped the public, “us”–
We will see as it all unravels…………………

Helena

But we will see by Dec. what happens further…

“”Meant to say Sept-”"-but think all fall will be many turning points, as Starlight predicts…and all of you here………

Another one…

Legendary CBS newsman Walter Cronkite III, once regarded as the “most trusted man in America,” is on his deathbed suffering from a respiratory illness and not expected to recover, his family said in a prepared statement published Saturday.

http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/06/walter-cronkite-not-expected-to-recover-family-says/

Neo vs. The Matrix: Iran Edition

Groups of “hacktivists” — Web hackers demanding Internet freedom — say they are targeting Web pages of Iran’s leadership in response to the regime’s muzzling of blogs, news outlets and other sites.

In the Iranian showdown, the co-founder of the Open Source Movement, Eric S. Raymond, has launched a site called NedaNet, after 27-year-old Neda Agha Soltan, who became a global symbol of the postelection protest movement after videos of her death by gunfire was posted on Web sites.

Raymond described his site as a place for hackers and Iranian protest movement sympathizers from around the world to team up in developing a system of proxy sites that cloak the location of users in Iran from the Iranian government.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2009/06/27/hacktivists_take_up_iran_fight_as_streets_quiet/

LJ: Be aware presstv is an Iranian government propaganda site.

Just because its on the web does not make it true.

Try and do a little research on the links you post.

Hi Helena,

Although that previous post of mine may have unintentionally strayed a little too far into personal detail and tangential information (now that I’ve had a second look at it), nevertheless, I still think the July 7 - 10 aspects may be an important factor to consider esp. if you’re looking for clues in Ahmadinejad’s chart to see which direction the country may be heading. The July 7 lunar eclipse resonates powerfully with his chart.

In examining Ahmadinejad’s chart, here are some quick notes….

the 15 ‘24 Capricorn lunar eclipse conjoins natal Juno at 16 ‘04 Capr. (Juno is often associated with acts of terrorism), in semi-square to natal Saturn (1 ‘51 Sagittarius) and nodes (29 ‘14 Scorpio/Taurus) in sesqui-square to natal Pluto (0 ‘09 Virgo) and sextile natal Mars (15 ‘13 Pisces). Tr. Uranus still in its near stationary position conjunct natal Mars and sextile the Capr. lunar eclipse/natal Juno degrees. Because of the eclipses harsh angle to natal Pluto, natal Saturn and Nodes and its sextile position to natal Mars and tr. Uranus, I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of his removal at this juncture, or barring that, perhaps some dramatic development that would undermine his position.

Saturn Returns to Iran

-snip-

To understand the roots of your own revolution, your own personal legend, please go back to 1978-1980. Whatever were your lessons back then, they are returning now. You have a second chance, almost as if you are born again and have the ability to fix (Tikun in Kabbalah) what went wrong back then…

http://cosmicnavigator.com/newsletter/spiritalk/2009-06-21-saturn-returns-to-iran

New from the Akashic Records of the USA
From Keepers of the Akashic Records * Channeled by Jen Eramith, MA *

The Akashic Records are an ethereal library, offering infinite information regarding every creation in the Universe. They hold an energetic imprint of a soul’s journey from its inception until its return to Source. Every human being has access to their Akashic Records by divine birthright. There is a unique Akashic Record for every period of time, and the Records for the period can be accessed.

Scroll down to the USA posting.

http://www.akashictransformations.net/mc/page.do?sitePageId=48878

lunagardener - Great post! Thanks.

Lorrie U
The Cosmic Navigator was great!!

B.A
Oooohhhhh, I will be aware!
Thanks for the tip, I will add it to my list of other websites that annoy/upset people, and not post any from there………………….

Unveiling:: The Iranian Revolution

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2009/06/27/iran_women/?source=newsletter

lunagardener
Thank you for the post Akashi Transformations-
It was great..

rc, Quite an imaginative and funny piece by Brooks, thank you, I laughed reading it and the comments.
It’s raining and thundering here now, and you’re right down the road from me, guess this means we share the same rain and sun!!! lol

Weblog Diary Note…In The business of Working in the present and future, the second most important event is in play, the First,being the successfull extention of Life Allowing Hubble to exist,has been accomplished.
Next,The Astrological and Political Meeting Between Our President Obama and Premier Putin.., log all astrological time data of this Meeting Event.
Being ever mindfull that, this is to be concidered as a natal being.
,,,Remember ,most importantly ,due to the Planet transits,,Hubble almost failed.The success for this task will now be in the The strength of Life at Solstice,,seek it,,for this alingment,,will require such assistance,,,Utilise all methods.
Defend and protect for that which is not meant to happen.

911 Families Angered as U.S. Backs Saudis!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/31/national/main5051884.shtml?source=RSS&attr=HOME_5051884

rc
that Putin/Obama meeting is one to “watch”. The astro is very important..Each will look into one another’s eyes.

rc, I remember you posting about an Obama/Putin meeting months ago?
I’d really like to re-read it now, can you track it down?
Merci,

Hi Joy,Good idea, its in the archives, somewhere, I remember,,but My Rafters have gathered some light Dust,,,Be back in a bit. I think its with Starlights 100 days.

Yes ,we ‘ is ‘Parallel to each other!

The power struggle inside Iran appears to be moving from the streets into the heart of the regime itself this weekend amid reports that Ayatollah Hashemi Rafsanjani is plotting to undermine the power of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Rafsanjani’s manoeuvres against Khamenei come as tensions between the speaker of the parliament, Ali Larijani, and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad also appeared to be coming to a head.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/28/iran-mahmoud-ahmadinejad

Hi Joy: Here are the Dates ,Based on Starlights Themes:;Jan4th 1:39pm “As it Begins”

Feb,8th ,5:55pm,6:36pm “Renagades Firsts Months”

Feb 10th 4:54pm
Feb,11th 6:50am “Growing Tensions”

,,Joy, The Finnally, is at the End of a Long
Gabber between me and LJ;

Feb,14 8:57 am “Away for a Few days”

Thats about all of the early posts. ,,There are more posts continuing on from 2-14, But these dates are the tappers!!

Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bio.. and Intent to Commit Mass Murder .

http://tinyurl.com/nokwr8

Report: Hospitalized Iranians Seized
June 27, 2009

(CNN) — Iranians wounded during protests are being seized at hospitals by members of an Islamic militia, an Amnesty International official told CNN.

“The Basijis are waiting for them,” said Banafsheh Akhlaghi, western regional director of the human rights group, referring to the government’s paramilitary arm that has cracked down on protesters during the violent aftermath of the June 12 presidential election.

Amnesty International has collected accounts from people who have left Iran and expatriates with relatives there who say the Basij has prohibited medical professionals from getting identification information from wounded demonstrators who check in, Akhlaghi said on Saturday. They are also not allowed to ask how the injuries happened, and relatives are hard pressed to find the wounded.

Once the patients are treated, the militia removes them from the hospital to an undisclosed location, she said.

Continued…..

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/06/27/iran.protests/

As mentioned earlier, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamanei has an intense natal Pluto-Mars-Saturn t square (0 Leo/ 1 Aquarius/0 Taurus) with transiting S. Node conunct his n. Pluto. The July 7th Moon-Pluto conjunction at 1 Capr. would be activating these degrees by quincunx and trine. There could be a major shift around this time.

My apologies if someone already mentioned this - it sure looks like the full moon prenumbral eclipse on July 7 will pack a wallop (the first of two eclipses that month), which, along with Pluto, will be stirring up Capricornian issues (and Cancer too). Cancer/Cap issues are the theme in July.

In addition Mars is in Taurus and will form a square to the lingering Jupiter/Nep/Chiron conjunction in Aquarius which is likely to release some demons (or wolves in sheeps clothing).
And the three most outer planets as well as Jupiter are all retrograde.

That’s a LOT of energy hitting the wall.
A great opportunity to wrestle with one’s demons or those of others and clear things up, take a stand or determine where you draw the line in the sand regarding your values. Learning about healthy and unhealthy expressions of nurture, give and take, relative to both oneself and others, etc. It may take awhile to sort it all out but also promisees an important breakthrough or spiritual awakening if only we will peel back the layers, have eyes to see the inner truth of the situation and be willing to make important changes where needed or shed our old skins.

From Astrowisdom -

Full Moon in Capricorn
Tuesday, July 7, 2009
2:21am PDT
15° 24’
Penumbral Lunar Eclipse
2:39amPDT
15° 32’

If you feel like you are pushing a huge boulder up a steep hill on this Full Moon in Capricorn, blame it on retrograde Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto and Chiron. Ouch! Well, what other Full Moon could face this kind of struggle by shrugging its shoulders, and saying, “So what else is new?” Thank you Saturn, ruler of Capricorn, the great teacher of how to handle hardship, struggle and reality, with commitment, follow-through and guts. So though this is the Full Moon to celebrate goals and achievement, with this kind of planetary resistance to moving forward, we can also celebrate small steps, realistic goal-setting, and being successful when faced with tremendous limitations. Going forward has its right time and right place. This is the night to look within, connect with one’s own sense of proper timing and trust the wisdom that arises from this kind of inquiry. Remember retrograde planets are ideal for inner work, especially with Mercury (mind) in Cancer.

This is the Full Moon of the Guru: Guru Purnima. A night dedicated to thanking all our teachers, in every walk of life; especially the difficult ones who challenge us to reach deep within to feel love and compassion. You might want to do metta practice in your ritual as you celebrate the teachers in your life: your kids, parents, siblings, lover, partner, spouse, co-workers, bosses, professors, etc. Wishing them well with metta is a beautiful way to celebrate the gifts they give to you and return the sentiment through the heart of compassion. You can find recorded metta practices on my web site: http://www.lisadalemiller.com/metta.htm

When the Moon is full in Capricorn, the Sun is in Cancer, the sign that rules emotional connectedness, nurturance, compassion, and personal expressions of love. Because the Moon rules Cancer, when the Moon is posited in Capricorn (the sign opposite its natural zodiacal energy) this makes for a special energetic symbiosis between the Sun and Moon. Only at this time of year, can the Moon fully infuse the restrictive, withholding, structured, serious energy of Capricorn with its natural, energetic Cancerian open, flowing love and compassion. This is especially true with Mercury in Cancer (mind/heart connection). This is a celebration to enliven compassion for ourselves, especially in these uncertain and tough times. So use your ritual to bring compassion to bear upon your most critical, negative images and thoughts about yourself. Self-love is not a concept; it is active, and takes energy and time to develop. This is especially important with Saturn in self-critical and perfectionistic Virgo.

This Full Moon in Capricorn along with Pluto in Capricorn calls upon each of us to find the appropriate structures to express love and connectedness without manipulation. Pluto asks us if we can risk being fearless, honest and open with the ones we love. This is especially true when love is not our first response, or is drowned out by pain, fear and hatred (the domain of Capricorn/Saturn). Where Cancer feels almost childlike in its attachment to direct experience of emotive love, Capricorn knows that sacrifice and personal responsibility are the building blocks of true love, and realizes this goal with a special grace and maturity.

MORE
http://www.astrowisdom.com/thisfullmoon.htm

Quarreling Ayatullahs Affect Iran Election Crisis

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1907067,00.html

WASHINTGON: At least 11 big and small, known and unknown, lobbying companies have been hired by Pakistan and state-owned Pakistani organisations in the US, paying them hundreds of thousands of dollars every month, some of them having mysterious names and almost dubious credentials.

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=22972

Why Burma May Be N. Korea’s Best Friend

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1907343,00.html

Barack Obama
Psychological Horoscope Analysis
Liz Greene

http://curezone.com/upload/PDF/Astrology/Barack_Obama_Horoscope_by_Liz_Greene.pdf

How Iranian intelligence Turned The Internet Against The Opposition

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
June 28, 2009

A weapon turned on its users Iran’s opposition leaders relied heavily on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Flickr and other social sites to orchestrate their street rallies and expose regime repression. They did not appreciate at first that Iranian intelligence Internet experts were manipulating their electronic communications to shoot them down.

The United States has been alerted to seek new cyber defense systems to fight massive Internet invasions like the one Iran mounted to suppress its protest movement

Millions of sympathizers around the world looked forward to seeing Iran’s protest movement using the Internet for the first online coup in history. Instead, the Iranian Islamic regime turned the tables: Its Internet police, arguably the largest in the world, pushed “control,” “halt,” “delete” and “send” buttons to activate a deadly weapon for suppressing the movement, as soon as it took to the streets to protest the June 12 election which was believed to have given Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a false victory.

By Sunday, June 28, when the Guardian Council was to hand down its final verdict on their complaints, the street rallies had petered out.

Part of the reason, DEBKAfile’s intelligence sources report, was their organizers’ heavy reliance on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Flickr and other social sites to orchestrate their protest movement. They did not at first appreciate that Iranian intelligence Internet experts, operating from secret headquarters established months ago, were using their communications to shoot them down.

Continued…..

http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1396

“The Prices of Your Sausages are To High”

Premier Putin Is Getting Warmed Up;; doesnt he sound like someone we Know!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/5636797/Vladimir-Putin-humiliates-Russian-supermarket-chiefs-over-expensive-sausages.html

July 22 Solar Eclipse Most Significant in History!
Shocking Series of Eclipses Begin 7-7-09

http://www.aquariansolutions.blogspot.com/

rc
Putin continues to be full of Surprises!
I dread Obama’s visit and during the eclipse!!?
This is old {11-2006}”complicated” article,–but just a reminder——-
Putin and the Poisoned Spy
And “what is the real story”?

http://starsoverwashington.blogspot.com/2006/11/putin-and-poisoned-spy.html

Russia and the United States are seeking to narrow differences before Obama and Medvedev meet in Moscow on July 6-8. Both countries have stated their desire to “reset” relations, which had deteriorated to near Cold War levels.

http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-BarackObama/idUSTRE55N6JO20090625

rc
Putin to Obama–”are the stars out tonight”, I “Only have Eyes For you”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFkc2gbShTY&feature=related

love this song/ Flamingo’s–all the Motown music– —-only an excuse to post it!!

Hi Jerry,

Rather than responding to the technical side of your comments regarding the lunar eclipse at this time, I think there is a need to provide a clarification regarding the Jupiter Neptune transits.

What may be a source of confusion and what appears as contradictions between our perspectives is that we’re talking about the planets from different levels. Ray Merriman and I to a large extent have been talking about the less evolved manifestations of Jupiter Neptune. You have been tuning into its higher manifestations. I’m sure many on this site are aware of this, but it bears repeating that human beings are at different levels in our evolution of consciousness. The response to any given transit is determined by the “equipment” we have. The more spiritually evolved will respond to the higher dimensions of Jupiter Neptune. While I’ll put it this way, younger souls will respond to the “maya” or illusion generating dimension of these planets. We are in agreement as to the spiritual dimension. The other thing I want to mention is that it seems to me the energies which will be “channeled” around July 10 won’t be seen all at once but will take time to work through in this dimension in the months ahead.

vera - excellent post! Unfortunately, I’m afraid the reporter will most likely be dismissed as a conspiracy theorist because of her statement, “Evidence of the existence of the “Illuminati” and most people won’t take her seriously.

Hi LJ, I have studdying up Aries. I have re trained my eyes ,to recognise the sign of aries(T) upon ones forhead( T ),, You Know the ram . When people with prominent Aries,,Scrunch there fore heads, The T appears….. This will be helpfull when Uranus and Aries Unite soon…..As To Identify our Zodiacals,, Quickly….

Ps. LJ i am going back to the Archives for a while bit longer::LoL Come with me, there is some great stuff here!

rc
Your archives and recent posts are great/good to go back and review… and I will start looking for that “T”. I want shooting stars and rainbows when Uranus moves into Aries!…

rc, Thanks so much for finding the “Putin Posts”

I found what I was looking for, your feelings on the Putin /Obama relationship when they meet were/are quite strong.

“an unexpected (Uranus” positive boost in world karma”
“he likes Obama” body language
“deep glow in Putins heart”
There could be a very strong karmic connection your picking up that has yet to be seen???
I find the nuclear issue, and you feeling that there could be some resolution between them 9countries)quite interesting especially since you posted this last February.
The conditions have greatly changed with both NK and Iran since then .
Another possibility could be an event happening in the world while Obama is in Russia (area) which will force them to join together.
I do know that when they’re on TV I will be paying acute attention to all that transpires between them, especially how Putin looks at Obama!
Thanks again rc,

New Financial World Order
IMF–WHO?

Not long ago, Mario gathered with fellow members of the Bilderberg Group. Reports suggest Bilderbergers want the IMF to serve as global Treasury Department and the World Health Organization to act on global public health issues. Mario’s comments support the former objective:

http://peureport.blogspot.com/

New thread up.

Hi All!!

Hi Joy, Russia is the the Land of Mysteries and Secrets.

http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-BarackObama/idUSTRE55N6JO20090625

I believe that This will be the Paramount Theme of the Private Discussions with these two men. ,,…That is where i will put my efforts….(disussions into the wee hours of the dawn)
Obama and Putin, once trust is earned,combined with the “karma”will reveal all truths ,to each other.Again,,Secrets and Mysteries,,with powefull :good Consequences: for Mankind.

With all that being said,I found one more Goody,,It is in Starlights “”Oracle Of
Spring”"March 7 8:25 pm

, Let us not Forget ,That Russia Holds all of the Chess pieces after ww2…America took the Board..The Goal is to re-unite the two.The Board,The pieces,the players ,the friendship.
Thankyou Joy) i will be anxiously awaiting your insights !!

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