22nd Oct, 2009

Romney 2012

Known for his successful business career and his numerous, but fruitless, runs for the presidency, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney is representative of the moderate, business wing of the Republican Party. Despite periodic pandering to the extremists on the Right, he is not well liked on the fringe due to his Mormon religion and more moderate perspective. Nonetheless, as 2012 begins to cast its shadow in the waning days of 2009, early polling suggests Romney as a potential choice to run against Obama in the next election. Certainly, if the economy continues its anemic performance and unemployment remains a festering issue, then a pragmatic, business-minded Republican might be a wise choice for the beleaguered GOP.

Astrology suggests that Romney (3/12/47, 9:50 AM, Detroit) could indeed run again, possibly attaining either the first or, more likely, the second slot on the ticket. With converse progressed Venus opposing his Ascendant (00Gemini42) through March 2012, he will be a more attractive candidate for the first three months of the year than in previous elections. With transiting Neptune square the Ascendant from late January through February 23 activating this progression, his exalted hopes will be quite strong during the same period. But this progression passes in March just as Saturn moves to oppose the other important progression of the year: progressed Venus conjunct progressed Mars (27 Aries). Thus, late March and April 2012 will be problematic for Romney, greatly diminishing his appeal and likely pushing him out of the race.

Nonetheless, the progressed Venus/progressed Mars aspect which runs from December 2011 through December 2013 is quite significant since it is quincunx Romney’s natal Moon/Jupiter conjunction at 27Scorpio33/36. This suggests a certain level of personal charisma that we have not seen in Romney in recent years, making him a more compelling candidate. In addition, transiting Neptune moves back into a one-degree orb of square to Romney’s Ascendant in late August 2012 for a long station through mid-December 2012, suggesting high hopes and expectations are once again strong at the end of the year during the height of election season. The timing of these aspects points to the possibility that Romney will be somewhere on the GOP ticket.

Despite a more compelling personal presence that will aid Romney during an election, there are several aspects that suggest the likelihood of a loss come November should he run. Somewhat counteracting the increased attractiveness of the progressed Venus/progressed mars quincunx to natal Moon/Jupiter is the solar arc progressed Moon/Jupiter opposite natal Saturn, from April 2012 through April 2013. This heightens the more serious, emotionally flat quality that is always problematic in a candidate. Moreover, and most problematic, is the series of Saturn transits that run from mid-October 2012 through April 2013 that suggest a time of disillusionment, sorrow, loss, and withdrawal, exactly what you would not find in the chart of a first-term presidential winner. Saturn during this time will square Romney’s natal Saturn (10/18 -10/25), activating the opposition from solar arc Moon/Jupiter, quincunx natal Node (11/12 – 11/20), square natal MC (11/20 – 11/30), sesquiquadrate the Sun (11/19- 11/27), square natal Venus (12/10 to 12/20 and 2/18 to 4/2013), and station square natal Pluto (1/13 – 3/4/13). One can always rationalize that the mantle of the presidency brings with it a huge weight of responsibility, and, hence, Saturn will be strong. But these transits, especially Saturn square natal Venus, activating the natal opposition, suggest a rapid decrease in public support and popularity just when these would normally be peaking for a new president.

Responses

Thanks, Nancy. I wonder what role the Mormon convert Glenn Beck will be playing in any Mitt Romney run? And, out of curiosity, does Romney have a Leo ascendant? It seems like pretty much anyone who gets elected to the presidency has either Leo rising or a Leo Sun.

Nancy:

One word:

PHEW!!!!!!

I cannot forget the myth of Romney rushing his family on a trip to Canada,I believe, and leaving the family dog in an open cage on top of the car where the poor dog was so terrified that its waste was running down the side of the car when they stopped for gas.
While I would never vote for a Republican this story has haunted me-there is something missing in this man.

I don’t think Romney will fly in post-meltdown America. One observer described him as looking like the guy who just fired your dad. And as the onetime head of Bain Capital, a company notorious for buying troubled companies and “busting them out,” to use a phrase I remember from the Martin Scorsese film Goodfellas, wherein the Mob takes a business over just to pick its assets clean and run up a bunch of bad loans, I suspect Romney has much to answer for.

I am a senior citizen and enjoy life. I hope I die before that man ever becoms president of the US. He is a awful persobn. He stunk as Governor of Mass.

Nancy, thank you for your work on 2012. May I ask you to please, please look at Huckabee. He scares me because so many think him a moderate!!! and many find he has charisma and thrives in the spotlight. Please tell us he has no chance of becoming President or even VP.

Francis, I can tell you that in the last election the Obama campaign feared Huckabee the most.

A Pisces sun and a Gemini Moon - hmmm. Lots of phantasy and all of that lawyer-ease. I can never trust a guy who is so perfectly-groomed; it is always a cover-up for a big imperfection. He comes off as a Ken doll - a shell-of-a-man. I have never quite understood what his motivation was to run. Is he in competition with his sons? In my book, he’s way, way, way too corporate. Too slick. Too removed from the Everyman. I don’t think he’s got a chance.

Huckabee is another story entirely.

Starlight,

Thank you for your in-put on Client X. He is “in-bed” with many different investors. He is linked to the Underworld and has many people who would like to string him up - a very slick operator who is as shady and misleading as they get. He is sadistic, a show-off, a philanderer and highly immature.

Difficult man to work with.

Oh!! Please excuse my rudeness-thoughts of Romney obviously knocked me off my rocker: THANK YOU, Nancy/Starlight for your thoughtful report on this man.
And yes!! definitely sounds like BIG disappointment for Romney.
And,Will, exactly”something missing there.
And, Will, Oh the joys of being a “professional astrologer”-people have all kinds of reasons for seeking the advise of astrologers-hope you have a means for remaining free of any entanglements there.

Zeroaries - The really interesting thing is that Romney’s Ascendant is 00Gemini43 and Huckabee’s Sun (using noon) is 00Virgo47, and both will be hit by Neptune during the primaries and again from late August through much of December. Could they be on a ticket together? Does this indicate unrealistic expectation and then disappointment? Certainly, in Romney’s case, the Neptune coincides with Saturn transits at the critical time around the election and in January.

Francis - I will be looking at Huckabee next, though I might do a more generalized update first.

Neptune also suggests dishonesty and hyperbole. They will be more likely to get away with it under Jupiter and get caught and punished under Saturn.

A word about Huckabee. I thought he might win the nomination last time. Instead, he won a talk show. He does have extraordinary charisma: natal Pluto/Mars/Venus/Sun conjunction, all within 4 degrees. I wish we had a birth time for him.

The person I know of Pisces/Gemini is ALWAYS CHANGING. Indecision. Change of mind. Unpredictable mood. A female. Is there any of this in him?

Will,
Doesn’t client X fit his chart perfectly?
What is he looking for from astrology?
With an ego like his all he wants is adoration.

Barbara

Please forgive me but in light of Peter Novack’s heads up about a rumored Khamenei coma on an earlier thread, I feel compelled to share a series of Nostradamus’ quatrains with everyone.

Here is the first one, and if there is no interest, I will not impose the others on you.

X 58
A temps du dueil que le felin monarque,
Guerroyera le ieune Aemathien :
Gaule bransler, perecliter la barque,
Tenter Phossens au Ponant entretien.

In the time of mourning the feline monarch
Will make war upon the young Macedonian:
Gaul to shake, the bark to be in jeopardy,
Marseilles to be tried in the West a talk.

The connection here is the identity of “Aemathien” which is Greek for “Macedonian.” The name appears four times in the quatrains. Now, Nostradamus made use of anagrams, which is making different words by rearranging the letters.

Though Nostradamus made his own rules, traditionally you were allowed to change one letter. Take “Aemathien,” change the “t” to “k” and see if that doesn’t spell “A. Khamenei.” Could be Ayatollah or Ali, which is his first name.

I prefer the “A” standing for Ayatollah because the quatrain refers to him as the “young Aemathien,” and comatose or not, Ali Khamenei is not young. But his son, Mojtaba Khamenei, whom he has reputedly groomed to succeed him is, and has been a major player within the government in countering the reformists. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojtaba_Khamenei

So we have a “feline” leader attacking young Khamenei during a time of mourning. Could it be Israel or USA taking advantage of Iran’s internal transition of power to take care of the perceived nuclear threat? And if Ali Khamenei is in a coma, I would imagine that a clever son would keep the news hidden as long as possible to consolidate his position.

The last two lines would suggest the trouble Muslim immigrants living in Europe would cause in reaction to such an attack. Nostradamus picking out France and Italy (the “bark” is generally interpreted as the Bark of St Peter, or the papacy)as especially susceptable.

Nostradamus gives special mention to Marseilles which is now 25% Muslim and the second largest city in France. http://networkeurope.org/feature/muslims-of-marseille-soon-to-get-new-mosque

I believe it would not be unreasonable for those on the right to equate the “feline monarch” with Obama, and he has taken a hard public line against Iran developing a nuclear weapons capability.

But I do not think this refers to Obama because of the next quatrain I would share, if anyone is interested in my continuing.

I’m interested.

Awesome planetary photos!

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/10/saturn_at_equinox.html

So much for those construction jobs for Americans out of work and out of money…..

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90776/90883/6702201.html

Chinese construction company starts New York Alexander-Hamilton Bridge renovation project

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/opinion/23krugman.html?_r=1&hp

The Chinese Disconnect - By PAUL KRUGMAN

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/10652

Alan Grayson Juices Rep. Paul Broun, Discards Rind (Bring Your Popcorn)

What on earth?? Are we building bridges,etc. in China?? Who hates Americans?? Americans??
I am not against China,Mexico or anyone but for good god’s sake we need jobs and this is work that would help so much and it is government work.
Who approved this? Who is the local government that contracted this work and gave it to a Chinese company? Is this NYC? or New York state?

My concern with Grayson is his hubris: he has slipped a couple of times into vulgarity which could with time undo his positve offerings.

Pat - There is nothing in the article that says they are hiring Chinese for these jobs. Do you have that from somewhere else? On DU someone posted that they are hiring locally which would make much more sense.

Clymela - I agree about Grayson. I usually really enjoy and agree with him. But last night on Hardball (or Countdown?), he was over the top when discussing Cheney. Not that I disagreed with him, but he could have been more effective than just making fun of “blood dripping from Cheney’s fangs”. He was a little too cute and lost an opportunity to make a more cogent point.

Starlight this is the only article I could find with any detail in it.

http://www.mounthopemonitor.org/?p=352#respond

I guess we’ll see who does the labor.

Palin makes big endorsement on conservative third-party candidate in NY politics

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

Looks like Miss Thang ain’t goin’ away any time soon

This kind of thing makes me nervous.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/23/obama-coup-of-2011-is-the_n_331747.html

Thrasybulus,

I’m interested too.

Pat C and barbk are interested-it is unanimous.

First, being betrayed by my memory, two corrections. “Aemathien” is not Greek, “Emathius” is the LATIN word for Macedonian which has always been the closest interpreters could come to deciphering its meaning. Since it seems unlikely the learned Nostradamus was such a terrible speller, it increases the liklihood of it being an anagram. It just all seemed Greek to me.

Second correction, Aemathien is mentioned 5 times not 4. I think it necessary to point out the translations are not mine and can be found here; http://www.maar.us/nostradamus_quatrains_main.html

The next quatrain is very alarming and (to my mind) describes the timing of an important event.

II 15
Vn peu deuant monarque trucidé,
Castor Pollux en nef, astre crinite,
L’erain public par terre & mer vuidé,
Pise, ast, Ferrare, Turin, terre interdicte.

Shortly before the monarch is assassinated,
Castor and Pollux in the ship, bearded star:
The public treasure emptied by land and sea,
Pisa, Asti, Ferrara, Turin land under interdict.

The first line is the alarming event and nothing more need be said about it. The timing is what is important.

Line three is what drew me to the possibility of a contemporary relavence. Compare “The public treasure emptied by land and sea” to Jessica Murray’s comments about current events on May 25 in her post entitled THE SURREALISM OF SIZE on her Mothersky blog.

“The premier symptom of the transit of Neptune (confusion) over the Sibly Moon (the American people) is the fact that the US populace is staggering around in a daze while their national treasury is being emptied out.”
http://jessica-mothersky.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2009-06-06T17%3A51%3A00-07%3A00&max-results=7

Public treasuries have been looted throughout history so we go to the all important second line which I will take to another post as I fear this entry has become too tediously long.

So, how does the US get out of only making money as a weapons exporter?
http://watchingamerica.com/News/36200/arming-the-world/
“The United States is selling weapons or providing military training to almost 90 percent of the countries that, according to the U.S. itself, are harboring terrorists.”

The all important second line: “Castor and Pollux in the ship; bearded star.” Castor and Pollux are the primary stars in the constellation Gemini-the twins. See this link to wikipedi and notice their position in the constellation-its important. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gemini_constellation_map.png

In mythology Castor and Pollux joined Jason on the ship Argos-Jason and the Argonauts- and “nef” is an old style of sailing ship. Bearded star is simply a comet. So we have a comet going through Gemini.

Comets go through the zodiac constantly but I stumbled upon one that shares an amazing synchronicity with the second line-Comet Cardinal. It was discovered on October 1, 2008 by Rob Cardinal- one month before the presidential election. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Cardinal

The connection of this particular comet to the second line is its name. I found that “nef” has another meaning in French other than the name of a type of sailing vessel. It also means “nave.” See for yourself.
http://www.french-linguistics.co.uk/dictionary/

Here is the wikipedia link to “nave.” The sixth paragraph is what I consider relevant; “The nave was the area reserved for the non-clergy (the laity), while the chancel and choir were reserved for the clergy.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nave

So Castor and Pollux in the ship becomes Castor and Pollux in the NAVE. I found that Comet Cardinal passes through Gemini at the opposite end (or the open end in the schematic) from Castor and Pollux. Here is the best remainig link I could find on the path of Cardinal through Gemini.
http://universesandbox.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=ab6b2d78331965682947ae5b939f103a&topic=79.msg404

Not to belabor my point, but Castor and Pollux in the nave, where the non-clergy sit. A comet named Cardinal traversing Gemini at the other end where the clergy sit. Cardinal passed through Gemini May 8 thru May 17, 2009.

I have more to say about this comet but I’ll leave that for later and move on to the last line; “Pisa, Asti, Ferrara, Turin land under interdict.”

Jill, that is a good question and difficult one to answer. Most people think we have to start making things again. But with one cavet. We have to start inventing and making things that the world needs and can’t get anywhere else.

Our problem has been that our living standard is higher than China, India, S Korea and Tawaiin. The Republican answer was to bust the unions and lower the US pay which they have done. We will never compete with the rest of the world making cars or dvds because of the wage issue.

But Obama is right we have to start discovering the discoveries like an electric battery, etc. And the energy sector is the best bet in assisting the US to increase its manufacturing base.

As if he doesn’t have enough to deal with?!

“In addition to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the United States military is also fighting a war against the Obama administration at the White House, Seymour Hersh said in a little-noted speech at Duke University on October 13. The military is “in a war against the White House — and they feel they have Obama boxed in,” he said.

Hersh, a Pulitzer-prize winning investigative journalist who exposed the My Lai massacre in Vietnam and the Abu Ghraib scandal in Iraq, sees an undercurrent of racism in the Pentagon’s dealings with the White House. “They think he’s weak and the wrong color. Yes, there’s racism in the Pentagon. We may not like to think that, but it’s true and we all know it.”

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/23/seymour-hersh-military-is_n_332139.html

Please!!!! IF people don’t stop voting within the two party system nothing will ever change. But I expect that the sheeple (even though there has been considerable awakening) still don’t get it. Any politician connected or paid by big business needs get a real job. We need to clean these vampires out of washington. They are sucking the life out of this country.

Pat - From your article:

At the groundbreaking on July 15, officials emphasized two major benefits the project will bring: better infrastructure and new jobs. “This will allow us to continue to put people back to work to re-charge the economy… while improving quality of life by relieving congestion,” said Stanley Gee, the NYSDOT’s acting commissioner.

Well thank you,starlight and Pat C.for clarifying the information. Big money floats but at least we will have the jobs and the infrastructure to paraphrase.

Weblog Note, Happy Birthday To all Our Friends of This, The Most Powerfull of The 12 Signs.

http://www.josephinewall.co.uk/zodiac/web_scorpio.jpg

check out Grayson on wiki (3/13/58 Bronx.) this guy isn’t going away - can you believe his kids names are: Skye, Star, Sage Storm, Stone

Grayson has an highly aspected conjunction of Jupiter and Neptune in Scorpio square to Uranus in
Leo - then there’s that Pisces Sun….

The last line; “Pisa, Asti, Ferrara, Turin land under interdict.”

Interdict in civil law is any prohibitory act or decree of a court or administrative officer. All the cities are in Northern Italy. The inclusion of the word land at the end of the list of cities suggests to me Nostradamus was stressing an area or region.

On May 13, 2009, in the midst of Comet Cardinal traversing Gemini, the newly reelected Prime Minister Berlusconi, with his new far right governing partner-the Northern League Party- pushed through a controversial law (the law did not pass the Italian senate until early July)cracking down on illegal immigrants. Links explain better than I.
http://www.immigrationwatchcanada.org/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=4736&MMN_position=92:90

http://www.heraldscotland.com/illegal-migrants-branded-criminals-as-far-right-takes-centre-stage-1.829019

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/13/italy-illegal-migration-bill-berlusconi

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8132084.stm

The sixth line from this last link says it in a nutshell, refering to the “citizen militias” empowered to help enforce the new law; “These groups have sprung up in several Italian cities, especially in the northern strongholds of the right wing, anti-immigrant Northern League.”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1193111/Italy-revives-Blackshirt-vigilantes-fears-Fascism-sparks-investigation.html

I apologize to starlight for using her forum for this type of discussion, I wrestled for months about whether to discuss it all so I hope the result is positive.

Keep Grayson going!

http://www.graysonforcongress.com/default.asp

thrasybulus, thank you so much for all your research. So interesting!

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Starlight, I do wonder why American companies aren’t doing this work! Grrrrr

Obama has now declared swine flu a national emergency.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114132895

If find it fascinating that as Saturn in Virgo comes to a close, we’re getting this announcement of the national emergency. The conspiracy theorists and right wingnuts are going crazy about this already — they believe this means the gov’t is about to unleash their “camps”. And it’s interesting to me astrologically that the Saturn/Pluto square will soon begin to activate, and also that the whole web bots thing has been pointing to some kind of event on October 25th. Also, everyone around me has been a little bit insane lately, but that’s purely anecdotal.

This could be what will drive Obama’s poll number down. It isn’t Israel attacking Iran (they are holding bi lateral talks) or a down turn in the economy. It’s H1N1.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/24/obama-declares-swine-flu_n_332617.html

And talk radio and cable will have a field day next week. The right will say Obama is building concentration camps and the rest of the media will hammer him about the lack of vaccines until November.

Plus Obama will be traveling to China and Copenhegan next month. Not a good time to leave the country as the nation hospitals will come under assault due to increase in cases.

But I still don’t think this will impact his poll numbers til next August as predicted. Two years ago, Bush had a problem furnishing the demand for vaccines during an extremely bad flu seasons. But MSM didn’t count the dead, they will this time.

New Jersey mistake: Don’t bet with Goldman

At face value, this Bloomberg News story is ridiculous: The state of New Jersey is paying Goldman Sachs almost $1 million a month to protect against interest rate risk on bonds that no longer even exist.

But, hey, a contract is a contract, right?

In 2003, New Jersey’s Transportation Trust Fund Authority raised $345 million by issuing variable rate interest “auction-rate bonds.” So-called because their interest rates changed periodically according to regular auctions, the bonds became all the rage in the late ’90s and 2000s for municipalities looking for the cheapest way to raise money. Because of the periodic resets, the yield that the Trust Fund Authority would have to pay investors never got too far from current short-term interest rates. And in fact, reports Bloomberg, New Jersey saved about $9.9 million between 2003 and 2008 by going with auction-rate instead of fixed-rate bonds.

The big risk, for New Jersey, would be that interest rates would rise over the course of a bond’s maturity, and the periodic resets would result in New Jersey being forced to keep forking over higher yields to investors. But New Jersey decided to be clever, and hedged against the risk of that happening by agreeing to an “interest rate swap” with a partnership run by Goldman Sachs.

New Jersey agreed to pay a fixed sum of money per month to Goldman Sachs, in return for Goldman Sachs taking on the variable rate risk associated with the auction-rate bonds. That meant, if rates did go higher, Goldman Sachs would take the hit.

But then came the financial crisis, and the entire auction-rate bond market collapsed, because suddenly no one wanted to take on any new risk at all — nobody came to the auctions. Interest rates collapsed. New Jersey ended up being forced to redeem the bonds, but according to the terms of its contract with Goldman Sachs, still must make fixed payments until 2019.

More…

http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2009/10/23/new_jersey_s_bad_goldman_bet/index.html?source=newsletter

Hi Will, I have completed my study of client x and his chart. I was fixated on The 5 ball conjunction all connected to the Asc. I had a Picture in mind ,but could not materialise any thing until today. The Mace is what comes to mind.( I had trouble finding a picture of a 5 Ball) I hope this helps.

http://www.kingofswords.com/images/WoodQuadMace.jpg

Hi Pat C, Exactly, It is examples Of Goldman Sacs et All “People are pissed” , and That is giving rise To a Possible Ceding Of The American States.

http://research.uvu.edu/desart/forecasting/oct2008map.png

Pat C , Take a look At this Map of The Electoral Votes Of 2008. Pay particular attention to the Red States and The Boundaries of Voters. As You visualise:
You will Notice The Swath Of Red States. Could It be Possible Of a Break( $) away from Washington.
Is It Possible that A s2econd Capitol could (peacefully) Appear from these States. Does it have Much Positive potential…..Maybe.
I believe that this is happening in some various Form as we Speak.
Pluto has Destroyed the Need Of the Republican Party and Its Economics of War. Uranus ,Tho, is credit To The “unexpected” Success of President Obama’s Efforts in Extending The Olive Branches Of Peace In His First 100 days of Office,, As A Matter of Fact ,, He Won the Nobel Peace Prize for This Gesture Of Peace,, To the World.
Just a couple of thoughts On A Rainy Saturday night ,, Thankyou for your Daily Diligences in Providing The Links,,
Who Knows, There May Be 2 Presidents of the States once United by 2015.

WOW, some interesting astrology in this article and especially the comments entitled IRAN’S SATURN IN LIBRA DESTINY.

http://politicalastrologyblog.com/2009/09/24/irans-saturn-in-libra-destiny/

The fact that jumped out at me was the comment by Gary Caton at 5:55am on September 28th saying;

“on the other hand, on 1 April 1979, Ayatollah Khomeini proclaimed the birth of the Islamic Republic sometime after two in the afternoon and before three by many accounts.

now in THIS chart we see TWO morning star planets near the cardinal axis -both a direct Mars and Mercury retrograde -the latter of which is in PHASIS (had just emerged into visibility within the previous week) Uranus, the planet of Revolution, is currently transiting in conjunction to both of these planets

Furthermore, we have a MUCH more accurate predictive tool available to us now because we see Jupiter at 29 Cancer -which any good Mundane astrologer will instantly recognize as the degree of the most recent current Solar Eclipse and therefore it can be reasonably predicted that when Mars crosses this degree on October 14-16, 2009 that we will see a MAJOR event involving this “republic”

So our predictive window just went from 14 months to 2-3 days.”

Is it coincidence that the rumors about Ali Khamenei’s coma were reported on October 15th?

I just ran across an interesting article by a numerologist who speculates that Obama may either opt not to run for re-election or may be defeated.

In any case, I see no chance of Mitt Romney ever becoming president. He’s cold and plastic and has zero charm. I mean, even less than Nixon! I also think his knowlege of economics is vastly overrated. I think he’s got no chance of winning.

Anyway! I’ve been looking at Ron Paul’s stars. They look surprisingly promising for 2012.
Nancy, or anyone else who’s into checking this out– have a look at RP’s stars and aspects for Nov. 6th 2012 (election day). I think you will find them very interesting!

Ron Paul’s birthday: August 20th 1935, Pittsburgh PA

However, Jan 20th 2013 (inauguration day) still looks like a pretty festive day for Obama, however, not as bright a day as Jan. 20th 2009. With Saturn transiting his Neptune, that does cast some doubt (for me) on whether or not Obama has won re-election. But it’s hard to tell.

There must be intelligent and strong Italians who will be able to reveal that Berlusconi has gone dotty in his senior years-I know he owns most of the public media but Italians cannot be as weak as this-black/brown shirts again??!!
Why is it that we cannot admit our own evil and begin to make amends?? How many must die before we do it?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/25/opinion/25rich.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

In Defense of the ‘Balloon Boy’ Dad

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Heene is a direct descendant of those Americans of the Great Depression who fantasized, usually in vain, that they might find financial salvation if only they could grab a spotlight in show business. Some aspired to the “American Idol” of the day — “Major Bowes Amateur Hour,” a hugely popular weekly talent contest on network radio. Others traveled the seedy dance marathon circuit, entering 24/7 endurance contests that promised food and prize money in exchange for freak-show degradation and physical punishment. Horace McCoy’s 1935 novel memorializing this Depression milieu was aptly titled “They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?”

In 1939, the year that John Steinbeck published “The Grapes of Wrath,” his Depression classic about dispossessed Dust Bowl sharecroppers migrating to California’s Salinas Valley in search of work, Nathanael West published “The Day of the Locust,” about those equally destitute Americans who traveled to Hollywood hoping to land in the movies. “They have been cheated and betrayed,” West wrote. “They have slaved and saved for nothing.” He could have been describing Americans who lost their jobs, homes and 401(k)’s in our own Great Recession.

The role models for today’s desperate fame seekers are “Jon & Kate Plus 8,” not Gable and Lombard. But even if they catch a break, as Heene did on “Wife Swap,” they still may end up betrayed by a stacked system. As The Times reported in August, many reality shows are as cruel as the old dance marathons. The usual Hollywood workplace rules allowing breaks for rest or meals often don’t apply. Nor, sometimes, does the minimum wage. Let ’em eat fame.

If Heene’s balloon was empty, so were the toxic financial instruments, inflated by the thin air of unsupported debt, that cratered the economy he inhabits. The press hyped both scams, and the public eagerly bought both. But between the bogus balloon and the banks’ bubble, there’s no contest as to which did the most damage to the country. The ultimate joke is that Heene, unlike the reckless gamblers at the top of Citigroup and A.I.G., may be the one with a serious shot at ending up behind bars.

Obama will not opt out of running for a second term. The only thing that can stop him, is God forbid an assain bullet.

Starlight -

Another interesting analysis of potential H1N1 impact to consider based upon Chiron/Jupiter/Neptune -

http://www.anneortelee.com/

“Mundane: Last spring when the Gang of Three first met in Air, we had all the craziness of the new H1N1 swine flue virus getting discovered. We’ve since decided it will be ‘mild‘. Various thoughts seem to swirl around it being a media hoax or a drug company scam or some such.

If H1N1 is GOING to mutate into something more dangerous, it will do so this week, when Chiron stations direct, OR on December 21 when Jupiter joins up with Neptune for the third and final time. I am voting for the December 21 date as the mutation date.

I predict this baby will shift and be a lot nastier than it currently is predicted to be. I have a few reasons. Mars in Leo will be retrograde from Mid-December to early-March so our “Life force”, the Sun, ruled by Leo, will be under attack by the warrior red fellow in the sky. Mars rules sudden fevers as well as epidemics attacking the public.

Saturn in Libra will be retrograde, square to Pluto in Capricorn, so we’ll have an opportunity to work on our relationships by being stuck at home with our partners and family. Chiron in Air suggests wounding by air ~ air born flu viruses certainly fit the image. Jupiter in Air expands them. Neptune in Air removes the boundaries. Aquarius is the collective or tribe being wounded by lots and lots of boundary free viruses. We’ll lose our tribal members (Chiron in Aquarius)who will dissolve with lots of (Jupiter) fluid (Neptune) in their lungs and immune system (Jupiter/Neptune).”

http://jessica-mothersky.blogspot.com/2009/10/today-is-first-day-of-scorpio.html#links

Pumpkins and Pagans

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/09/few-good-kids

A Few Good Kids?

Sonya, I was actually looking over Obama’s stars for inauguration day 2013 (assuming it’s Jan. 20th) and it does look like he’ll be there, so I wouldn’t worry about an assasin’s bullet.

I would love, however, for anyone who studies charts and transits, so look at what’s happening with Ron Paul for election day Nov. 6th 2012. I find his aspects very interesting and it leads me to consider that he will get the Republican nomination or he’ll be a major player running as a Libertarian.

Again, his birthday is Aug. 20th 1935. Born in Greentree PA (I don’t have the exact time).

Perhaps Paul will lead a group of Libertarians to leave America and settle some aynrandian paradise in, oh, Antarctica, or under the sea with the giant squids of Micronesia. Or on the Moon. Or Mars.

Deborah- where interesting analysis. I don’t think H1N1 has to mutate into anything to cause alarm. It hit Mexico really bad and I think the US will receive the same intensity that Mexico felt in the Spring. The virus is so very easily transferrable. It seems that you sit next to someone who has it, no touching and you get it. The problem is going to be that it kills children with no underlying illnesses and pregnant women at an alarming rate. And you know how cable news loves to amp up the volume especially regarding missing children they will have this nation in a firesale panic in the upcoming weeks.

It’s going to reminiscent to the Anthrax scare when people were wearing gas masks in public, plastic duct taping their house’ windows and preparing bomb shelters. If people thought the nation when crazy then next month we are going to be certifiable.

Lisa, thanks for the reassurance. I dont believe Obama will be assainated but my instincts tell me some one is going to get close.

For some reason I believe Obama is flip side of a coin to Ronald Reagan. Obama being tagged as a radical, Reagan was tagged that too. They had similar uplifting messages and the presidential debates zealed their win.

A couple of weeks ago, I had a dream of an attempt being made on Obama’s life- but the bullet doesn’t hit him, it hits an aide and Michelle. Scary dream but in it Michelle survives
but I don’t know about the aide.

Sonya-

Speculation runs wide. My own observations (non-astro) include a friend in France whose company has stocked up on thousands of respiratory masks for the workforce; Chinese classmates that purchased and wore masks on their flights back to the PRC this summer; and my two sisters who work in medicine (one in respiratory care) who say it’s all media hype. I tend to disagree with the latter. It is serious and indeed transfers swiftly.

Ortelee’s analysis makes sense.

Deborah, I work for the CDC and seen the science data. It’s not all hype. But talk to your doctor if you have questions. And I don’t think the thousands of dead in Mexico last spring was hype. Actually the Mexican government lowballed the number to avoid public panic. But we have a rabid conservative party which the likes of Michele Bachman and other talk radio/internet blogs that have already decided that Obama’ declaration of a national emergancy means his has the power to put people in concentration camps. This is going to be death panels on steriods redux.

Sonya,
I never saw anything happen to Obama or anyone around him, but I had a really scary dream months ago where something scary happened, not sure what, and I said in my dream, “Oh, my God, Joe Biden’s going to be President.”
That was it. Nothing more. Maybe nothing more than the fears I’ve heard expressed that something will happen to Obama. I hope it’s nothing more than that.
–Teresa

Having read Anne Ortelee’s weekly column for years … definitely have noticed that her big ‘mundane section’ predictions … have thankfully never once manifested … so am inclined to believe a discarnate spirit…one Matthew (Messages from…)
who constantly states that the toxins will be neutralized in the Army engineered Swine Flu, as well as the toxins in the flu shot.

We shall see … as we stand in the fearless Loving LIGHT of our True Essence….

Teresa,

I don’t dream often but my dreams do come true especially when I don’t tell the person about the dream or they don’t believe me. It has happen tragically in my own family. I had a dream that my dad would die in a car accident under strange circumstances. My dad died because there was an attempted car jacking. The car exploded with him in it.

I didn’t tell my dad about the dream that I had two years prior to his death. My mother and I use to scare our family with our dreams. My mother dreams were more precise. Her dreams always happened 7 days before anything occurred.

The only thing I saw in my dream was that Obama and Michelle were in a rope line, she was wearing a yellow jacket (bordello type) and a printed yellow dress with her signature wide belt (yellow). Obama was wearing a pale yellow tie w/ some pattern (which is not normal because he doesn’t match his ties with Michelle’ garment nor does he favor pastels except for light blue and light grey). Anyway he was shaking hands, Michelle was next to him doing the same. I guess someone ask him to sign something and Obama was looking back for Reggie and an aide next to Michelle reached over her to give Obama a pen and that when the shot happen. One shot. Some men in the crowd swarmed the shooter and subdued him. In my dream it seems as though the shot went thru the aide (I don’t know where) and hit Michelle in the arm. The room went mayhem and the SS were trying to shove the President to the exit but he wouldn’t move, he was holding Michelle, so the SS picked Michelle up and ushered her and Obama out.

zeroariestrian, that sounds like a song!!

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http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/biden-wins-pragues-backing-on-shield/388123.html

Biden Wins Prague’s Backing on Shield

U.S. Vice President Joe Biden won agreement Friday from the Czech Republic to join President Barack Obama’s reconfigured missile defense system, just two days after Poland said it also would take part.

Russia vehemently opposed the plan by former U.S. President George W. Bush, which would have put missile interceptors in Poland near Russian territory and in the Czech Republic.

When Obama suddenly announced last month that he was scrapping that plan for a reduced missile defense system linked to NATO, many Poles, Czechs and others in the region feared that it marked a capitulation to Moscow. Warsaw and some in Prague were also stung because the new system would give them reduced roles.

But those fears seem to have dispersed with Biden’s stops last week in Poland, Romania and the Czech Republic.

More at the link…

Zero, well I guess I can assume you’re not a fan of the one guy in the congress who’s been true to his principles for his entire career, never catered to a special-interest group, and continues to be the most dedicated, passionate anti-war advocate in our entire government. Yeah you’re right, he doesn’t fit in!

Ron Paul

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul

Political Positions of Ron Paul

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul

Trying to Rein In ‘Too Big to Fail’ Institutions
NYTimes By STEPHEN LABATON

Congress and the White House will take up the issue of how to deal with companies that are so big that the government has no choice but to rescue them when they get in trouble.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/26/business/economy/26big.html?_r=1&th=&emc=th&pagewanted=print

…………

http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/mister-we-could-use-somebody-somewhat-like-andrew-jackson-again/

Mister, we could use somebody (somewhat) like Andrew Jackson again

One of the best reads of my college years was Robert Remini’sthree-part biography of Andrew Jackson. There was a time that Andrew Jackson dominated American politics like no other. Until FDR he was the icon of the Democratic Party — the reason there are all those “Jefferson-Jackson Dinners”.

Of course, Jackson had gigantic faults. A slave-owner, a first-class racist (if there were more Asian-Americans then, he’d have had the bigot trifecta), a gigantic hot-head, a scofflaw, and the first real “hater” we had in the White House — he makes Nixon seem magnanimous.

But there was one thing that used to be considered a detriment that maybe, just maybe, had him ahead of the curve. He hated big banks, and unlike modern Democrats he was damn willing to do something about it.

http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/25/billo-and-the-homewrecker-versus-alan-grayson/

Cage Match: BillO and the Homewrecker versus Alan Grayson!

Oh joy, oh rapture, oh ecstasies untold! Sally Quinn has appeared on our TV screens once more — this time to join Bill O’Reilly in FOX News’ War on Grayson:

As many of you know, the Republicans have already named Alan Grayson as ‘Enemy Number One’ on their list of Democrats to bring down in the upcoming 2010 elections, and Bill O’Reilly along with Sally Quinn are beginning the ‘Bring down Grayson Campaign – at all costs’ by trying to frame Congressman Grayson as a ‘Kook’ and calling Grayson an ‘Embarrassment to his own party.’ The ’sound bites’ and ’script’ that these two ‘operatives’ are spewing appears in the video below the fold, and will tell you exactly how Fox News plans to swift boat Grayson, and denigrate his reputation.

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2009/10/25/secret_diary_sarah_palins_ghostwriter/?source=newsletter

The secret diary of Sarah Palin’s ghostwriter

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Nouriel-Roubini-Big-Crash-indexuniverse-1323647540.html?x=0&.v=1

Nouriel Roubini: Big Crash Coming

Dr. Nouriel Roubini, professor of economics and international business at the Stern School of Business at NYU and chairman of RGE Monitor, is perhaps best known for his prescient predictions of the financial market collapse in 2005.

HI Teresa And Sonya, If May Offer a Poli-Astro piece of Wisdom.
Dreams Are serious Business and The Knowledge Gained from its Mastery Is, and, always has been ,From Astrology.

Treat each dream as Newborn Baby, Do a Chart !!

Thanks Pat C for the links to Ron Paul’s positions. I never knew what a truly horrible man he is. Libertarian-Texas-Facist. I’m surprised he isn’t more popular with the far right since he is pro-life, pro-business and homophobic.

RC,
I never would have thought of doing a chart! I guess I’ll have to open my eyes and see what time it is, when my dreams are done.
Thanks,
Teresa

Teresa Hill - It’s called Horary Astrology and you can do a chart on a subject using the time you THOUGHT of doing the chart. Works the same I’ve found. Basically it’s answering a question - i.e., what was that dream about? Have the question in your mind when you draw the chart and the answeris usually in that chart.

Hey Matt, do you have any problem with the completely immoral war we’re fighting in Afghanistan and Obama’s esclation of it?

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/10/26/obama_report_card/

Obama’s foreign policy report card

You’d never know it from the MSM, but he deserves high grades for his work so far in Iran, Iraq and Pakistan - By Juan Cole

I guess I started this, with my snarky remark about Ron Paul. I’m apologize for sidetracking this discussion. I’m not a fan of Ron Paul or anyone else who advocates Darwinian social solutions, even if they are anti-war. There are many times and places where the actions of government are good, and are preferable to private-sector solutions.

Late October Update now posted.

Hey, Zero - Probably all part of Saturn creeping up on the opposition to your Aries Sun. :-)

No, Zeroariestrian, you are not sidetracking. Ron Paul is pertinent to this discussion. Provided that the discussion stays a discussion. Facile slogans like ‘immoral war in Afghanistan’ on the other hand, are not productive, given that all wars are immoral.

Hello, I have been dabbling in Astrology for years. First did charts by hand!!! Was taught by a genius cartographer. Anyway with out going into details on how planet/transit stuff. My take. Obama will not run again. Look for Pawlenty Romney on R side. Don’t think Huckabee will be more then a buzz., not strong enough. Look for Hillary also. Palin will not get pass primaries if she tries to run, but will have a voice. I feel strongly about which pary will win but I will not say.

Hi Ms. Cara. I’ve also been into Astrology for many years. What planetary transitions in particular are you looking at which tell you Obama won’t run again? Are you giving weight to the Saturn transit over his Neptune right around election time? I can’t decide what’s going to happen because there are aspects which indicate he’ll be very social and probably giving a big speech on Jan. 20 - inauguration day. That day does not look like a down day for him, but there is that Saturn transit going on… Anyway, what are you mainly looking at?

Also, have you seen Ron Paul’s chart for election day? It’s got some significant positive aspects. I am wondering if he may run again but next time on the Libertarian ticket, and make a decent showing. What do you think?

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