7th Sep, 2019

Planetary Update

The extremely stressful summer and fall planetary aspects continue apace. For now, the strong activation of US Mars is in retreat. This combination of Uranus stationary semisquare US Mars (6/18 to 9/5) and Pluto quincunx US Mars (6/24 to 8/5) brought us a mini racial civil war in the early summer, including both the proliferation of vicious and deadly white supremacist attacks and a racist verbal onslaught from Obese Hitler Himself. Moreover, we have also seen severe storms, multiple wild fires and random explosions, all more prevalent than normal under these strong Mars aspects.

The final piece of this hyped-up Mars energy will come again in October and November (10/2 to 11/29) when Pluto makes its final crossing quincunx US Mars. It will be strongly triggered by transiting Jupiter from October 16 to October 21 and by transiting Mars from November 3 to November 5.  The Jupiter transit coincides with Jupiter transits in Trump’s chart but still includes the tail end of the Saturn transit square to US Saturn and quincunx Trump’s Ascendant. This suggests aggressive US policy in October, especially through the 21st, including possible military action, that is over-optimistic and based in rash decisions and poor judgement.  Failure and embarrassment continue until around October 23, when the Saturn transits to US Saturn and Trump’s Ascendant begin to diminish. Between October 23 and 29, Trump may declare some kind of victory and briefly bathe in some exaggerated glory. At this time, Jupiter will be opposing his Sun for the final time, and there is no Saturn energy to weaken his brief celebration.

Pluto will continue its quincunx to US Mars through November, thus extending the aggressive rhetoric on foreign policy issues and the potential for domestic terrorist attacks, especially from November 3 to November 5 during the Mars transit square to Pluto. However, with no Saturn transits or progressions coinciding, the impact is likely to be far less horrific than the destructive storms and mass shootings we have endured over the summer.

The protracted Saturn station square to US Saturn and sesquiquadrate Trump’s Ascendant has done a great deal of damage and will continue to do so through October 23.  “How the mighty have fallen” is an apt description of this three-month sojourn of Saturn square to US 10th house Saturn (7/22 to 10/23). The total vacuum in US leadership on a global scale has become impossible to ignore, with a president who is ignorant and self-absorbed to the point of absurdity.  Global alliances and policies are being shattered at an alarming rate. Global hotspots are proliferating with no steadying US hand to help in guidance or support or even just to referee. Except perhaps in Moscow or Pyongyang, there is universal alarm at how far we have fallen in just two plus years. America stands humiliated on the world stage and seems powerless to correct the potentially catastrophic trajectory it is on.

The one helpful impact of the Saturn station is its sesquiquadrate to Trump’s Ascendant which has diminished his standing and support in the country. The cumulative pressure of this transit from August through most of October has led to far more focus on Trump’s vicious racism, as well as his extraordinarily pervasive corruption, including his using the US taxpayer as a cash cow to help him bail out his failing businesses. Also there has been far more focus on his fragile and deteriorating mental health and mental capabilities.

From late October through early January 2020, there is a brief break in general stress indicated in Trump’s chart. If we are to see impeachment proceedings, they may well come in January and February 2020, when Pluto and Saturn begin their opposition to Trump’s Saturn/Venus conjunction. Even if a conviction in the Senate is not successful, an impeachment proceeding in the House will do a great deal of damage in 2020. Pluto stations near to opposition Trump’s Saturn from mid-January to mid-July. Saturn’s first crossing opposite natal Venus and natal Saturn is from January 13 to February 7, but then it will return to station opposite Trump’s Venus from August 18 to October 22, 2020. It is hard to not see plummeting poll numbers and deep despair under these transits.


Thanks for the ‘heads up’ Nancy. It has certainly been a challenging period of time for many.

Sharon, just one more comment on pre hurricane evacuations – I think some that could afford to, did fly out. But the bigger question for those much poorer is where would they go to except designated island shelters? What if ‘brown people’ did not have preapproved visas to usa? Would they be subject to current trump ‘security’ methods? Its not like they could drive off their island to an inland area, like those living along the usa coast. I saw an interview with one woman who said she had been thru cat 5 hurricane(s) before and this one felt more like a cat 10. One man sheltered in a concrete school on a hill and said it sounded like sledgehammers pounding all night. When he was able to go outside again much of the school was gone.

“These are the times that try men’s souls” (Thomas Paine)

When people read about these times; people who are born 40-50 years from now, they will wonder how that man named Trump could have lasted so long (in office) as US President. Even with Russian interference aiding in his election having been exposed while he was still in office, the country continued to endure his atrocities.

There are so many people who aren’t able to see what you and other astrologers see Nancy, people alive now who don’t realize how a transiting Pluto or a transiting Uranus aspecting a US Mars can expose hidden hatred or shock a country out of its complacency.

I am grateful to you for giving us times allotted for these kinds of upheavals, it makes it less traumatic when you can see it coming ahead of time and know when it will stop. These are indeed testing times.

Shiver me timbers!

Nailed it Nancy. Absolutely Nailed It .

Thank you, Bob, for your explanation at the end of the prior post. Thank you also, Nancy – it’s a long haul to Saturn’s station opposite Trump’s Venus from August 18 to October 22, 2020. There’s no choice but to hang in and your timely comments are helpful and appreciated.

Did anyone else read Nancy’s words “two plus years” and automatically think “has it only been THAT long?”

Gods, it seems like it’s been forever…

Sharon K and all those wondering….

Eliseo is on the road, still traveling thru Texas at this point. Got a call from him this evening. I expect him to pull into Leavenworth either Monday or Tuesday, depending on how he does on the road. Even to here, it’s a long haul. The dog will be great company; not so sure about the cat! (LOL)

Hey Folks,
For the past week or more I’ve been without Internet except for my phone, AND I’ve been totally focused on finishing up the estate process so I could make my exit. I’m now on the road in Paris, Texas heading north. When I wake I’ll cross into Oklahoma and keep going. Thank You All for your well wishes and your safe journey prayers. I’ll keep you posted.

Eliseo, don’t push too much. We are all with you and sending you love and light, eagerly awaiting news.

Kiwi, it’s just like what happened in Hurricane Katrina and I imagine many others. The poor, and the people of color, often the same group, get ignored. I realize there would be red tape but when it comes to humanitarian issues, especially for our neighbors, this has to be suspended! Don’t bring them into the country if necessary; send ships or evacuate to safe places. Also, I do not remember all that many category 5 hurricanes affecting the Caribbean although there have been some fierce ones (I think Andrew and Katrina were later upgraded years after the fact). Of course, the Bahamas just doesn’t have the infrastructure, but I am angry that others stood by and let this happen. No doubt Dorian was even worse than previous hurricanes but this was talked about on the weather channel and news for a week or more! I didn’t think they were exaggerating. I heard them being even more concerned than in many other cases. They were upping the kinds of advice they gave and the urging of people to evacuate, doing due diligence. They never reported on evacuation plans for the Bahamas and I am sad. If the government is inept, why didn’t those with resources help? It is not just the Bahamas. This happens fairly regularly. Puerto Rico! Many people there are harder to get to as they live in hills, forests, mountains. It is just hitting me what blatant disregard for human life this shows. And it’s not just the government — the private sector could have organized something.

Eliseo, Yea! Good ‘ol Paris, TX. An unusual place, but a wonderful movie. So glad you are finally moving. I know what a haul it’s been, but it gives hope to all of us feeling stranded by, well by just about everything. Moving happens. Go slow and enjoy it as much as you can.
Slightkc- Cats are great car company! I have gone cross country several times with them, wouldn’t want to go any other way. Definitely help keep you awake. I also did a trip from Ohio to CA with two cats and a Parrot. Not sure I would want to do the drive a Parrot again… hahaha.

Henri, that’s good. I can just picture it.

From Nancy’s post above, re Saturn….”but then it will return to station opposite Trump’s Venus from August 18 to October 22, 2020. It is hard to not see plummeting poll numbers and deep despair under these transits.”

Nancy, the Republican Nat’l Convention will be in Charlotte, NC from Aug 24-27.

The natal chart for Charlotte has what looks like a favorable sun-moon relationship with Trump’s sun-moon.

Charlotte birth chart:

Trump birth chart: https://astro-charts.com/persons/chart/donald-trump/

When I did an event chart for the Repub Nat’l Convention in Charlotte on Aug 27, 9 p.m. (approximate date, time of the nomination), t. Venus in particular is in a positive relationship to Trump’s venus, and t. Jup. could be in a positive position in Cap.


It looks like there will be a lot of love for Trump that night but, based on the Saturn aspect, it could mean that something will go wrong after that and either he won’t be nominated, or he will be, and will have to be replaced.

I guess it also depends whether having a beneficial planet in the opposing sign is a good thing. In my personal experience, I find it often is (but my astrological experience is limited).

Did not get as far today. I’m in Muskogee, Oklahoma for the night. I’m ok, just very tired. I’m purposefully taking this trip far more slowly than previous ones. I should arrive in Leavenworth, either tomorrow or Tuesday. I seem to be doing a longer drive one day and a much shorter one the next day. We’ll see if that pattern holds.

Hi Eliseo 🙂 Please don’t forget to stop & stretch every 1-2 hrs.

On another note, kiwi, you were right. Bahamians with visas were told to get off a ferry from the Bahamas to FL, when they normally don’t need one!

What the hell?!


Michael Wolfstar:

“As the ongoing poll leader, Biden’s words matter. His progressed Mercury is now stopped at 24º Capricorn where it opposes the U.S. Mercury, thereby influencing the national debate. Meanwhile, transiting Saturn and Pluto will be conjoining this Mercury as it begins to move forward in 2020. His Ceres at the foundation of his chart suggests he cares about Earth as a home, but his Neptune in the 10th house points to his interest in the fossil fuel industry as a thriving professional ally. Progressed Mercury at an absolute standstill is open to contradictory policies which, in turn, mess with his message.


This morning’s transiting Mars (13+ Virgo) trine transiting Saturn (13+ Capricorn) was also a jolt to the US Sun (13+ Cancer) and the US Saturn (14+ Libra) and Trump’s natal Chiron and Juno (partner) also at 14+ Libra; a heads up on Nancy’s take on the trans. Saturn square US Saturn period (“how the mighty have fallen”). Would this refer to Trump’s planned meeting (then cancelled) with the Taliban at Camp David?

Transiting Mercury (21+ Virgo), symbol of the latest news, and transiting Venus (24+ Virgo), symbol of values, are right now straddling the US natal Neptune (22+ Virgo) which trans. Pluto trines and US Mars + Trump’s Sun (22 and 21+ Gemini) squares. Thank you transiting Mercury and Venus.

On October 13th a Full Moon will conjunct the US natal Chiron in the US natal 4th house of roots, family and history. The opposing transiting Sun will conjunct US natal Juno in the US natal 10th house of fame and infamy, and transiting Pluto in Capricorn will be in a double T-square with (1) the FM opposite Sun and (2) US Chiron opposite US Juno.

However, transiting Jupiter (understanding) in Sagittarius will trine the Aries FM and US Chiron, and it will sextile trans. Sun in Libra and US Juno. These seem to be incremental steps toward an awareness (or awakening) of a plan as featured in the 2019 US Solar Return chart. Ironic that Trump’s natal Chiron conjuncts his Juno, while in the US chart it is an opposition between Chiron and Juno. Hmmm.

In the US Solar Return chart, Pallas (the strategist) was conjunct the US natal Saturn, both at 14+ Libra (along with Trump’s Chiron + Juno) and square SR and natal US Sun at 13+ Cancer.

In this US Solar Return (SR) chart, Pluto at 22+ Capricorn and retrograde (the same degree where it will conjunct trans. Saturn in January) was quincunx Trump’s Sun + US natal Mars in Gemini, and this SR Pluto also was quincunx the SR Moon at 21+ Leo. This created a Yod in the 2019 US SR chart, with Pluto at the apex.

Somehow and some way, the SR Moon (the mood of the people) and the US natal Mars + Trump’s Sun have caused (or will later cause) what appears to be a bit of a shift in the intentions of the SR Pluto, likely evident at the January 2020 Saturn-Pluto (+ Ceres) conjunction.

The plot thickens.

Odd how the past can affect you when you least expect it.
De Ja Vu. When I drove into Missouri, it suddenly and intensely occurred to me I needed to change from my light grey shirt to a dark one, lest I be mistook as a union spy in Confederate colors.

I’m staying tonight in Butler, Missouri, about an houR’s drive south of Unity Village. Although I’m not a Unitic, I’ve done several hundred lectures and special programs for various Unity Churches. Tomorrow, I’ll take a quick gander at Unity Village, after of which drive to see our friends in Leavenworth. From there to Rapid City and on to Olympia.

Henri, your comments about driving cross county with two cats and a parrot reminded me of the time my husband and I drove from Holloman AFB NM to his new duty assignment at MacDill AFB FL. We had a young cat (her name was Pepper) going through her first heat. We also had a parakeet that could talk. Midway through Texas, after my constant refrain of “Shut up, Pepper!”, the parakeet started repeating “Shut up, Pepper! Shut up, Pepper! Shut up, Pepper!”
Seriously considered giving them both away before we hit east Texas!

From The Atlantic

“But above all, accepting the truth about Trump’s mental state will cause us to take more seriously than we have our democratic duty, which is to prevent a psychologically and morally unfit person from becoming president.
The office is too powerful, and the consequences are too dangerous, to allow a person to become president who views morality only through the prism of whether an action advances his own narrow interests, his own distorted desires, his own twisted impulses. When an individual comes to believe his interests and those of the nation he leads are one and the same, it opens the door to all sorts of moral and constitutional devilry.

Whether or not his disorders are diagnosable, the president’s psychological flaws are all too apparent. They were alarming when he took the oath of office; they are worse now. Every day Donald Trump is president is a day of disgrace. And a day of danger.”

PETER WEHNER is a contributing writer at The Atlantic and a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center. He writes widely on political, cultural, religious, and national-security issues, and he is the author of The Death of Politics: How to Heal Our Frayed Republic After Trump.




To your many spot-on points:

Trump Is Not Well
Accepting the reality about the president’s disordered personality is important—even essential.

SEP 9, 2019


Is Epstein Dead or Did He Disappear into a Pedo Protection Program?

“Back in late August, it was revealed Jeffrey Epstein, two weeks before his supposed suicide, put $577 million in a bulletproof trust fund. By putting his fortune in a trust, he shrouded from public view the identities of the beneficiaries, whether they be individuals, organizations or other entities. For the women trying to collect from his estate, the first order of business will be persuading a judge to pierce that veil and release the details. I believe Epstein is not dead. He was taken from the prison and disappeared into the dense fog of the ruling elite’s minion project program. I believe he is alive and well in Israel. I have no evidence of this, just precedent.
It’s not happenstance he was supposedly found dead a couple days after locking up his millions and the names of coconspirators in a trust fund. At the time of signing his will, I believe Epstein knew he would escape justice.”



In as much as I also do not believe Epstein killed himself, I must take anything Kurt Nimmo writes with not a grain but perhaps a whole box of salt. From what I have gathered, Nimmo worked for the madman
Alex Jones for a number of years.

All said, I can hardly blame some conspiracy theorists out there – I think paranoia is a natural symptomatic out-growth for one who feels repeatedly deceived its own government.

It’s also a little strange to me that the guy would put him in Israel. Because he is Jewish? Israel may have the Mossad but it is a small country and it wouldn’t be easy to hide there (not that he would necessarily stay there but even if the Mossad is involved, why bring him to Israel?). That in itself hints of a conspiracy theory fan. His theory of replacement is plausable, but it is more likely to me that he died of “assisted” suicide.

John Bolton has natal Sun and Chiron at 28+ Scorpio.

Trump’s Mars-Ascendant in Leo opposite US natal Moon in Aquarius completes a T-square with Bolton’s Sun-Chiron.

Transiting Sedna and transiting Vesta at 27+ Taurus opposes Bolton’s Sun-Chiron in Scorpio, and completes a grand cross (4 squares, 2 oppositions). Sedna is about being sacrificed by her father and being under water. Vesta is about what is invested in and about focus.

Bolton’s natal Neptune at 14+ Libra conjuncts US natal Saturn at 14+ Libra, and Trump’s natal Chiron and Juno, both at 14+ Libra. All square US natal Sun at 13+ Cancer.

Bolton’s natal Pallas at 7+ Gemini conjuncts US natal Uranus at 8+ Gemini

Bolton’s natal Saturn at 5+ Virgo conjuncts the New Moon at 6+ Virgo 10 days ago, when Saturn was at 14+ Capricorn and square US natal Saturn, Trump’s Chiron-Juno, and Bolton’s Neptune, all at 14+ Libra.

A very important development. the resignation-firing (which?) of John Bolton.

from nyt’s

Bolton Out

“I think we need to admit just how vulnerable we are as a nation at this moment in history.

We have a loose cannon as a president, with a glaring personality disorder and an abhorrent disregard for the rule of law.

Most of us want to pretend everything is normal and get on with our lives, but his daily barrage of hate and rage tweets is more than a mere distraction, it’s an aberration.

Unless we start facing reality, as painful as it might be, we will continue to have this daily devolving of our principles and assault on our sensibilities.

I, for one, choose to save our country, and uphold the stunningly valuable tenets of our Constitution.”

Here’s some b.g. as to why Bolton was fired.


He wasn’t getting along with anyone in the WH and when he was overruled, his team would leak mtg info (“losing and leaking”). I know he’s a war hawk, which is bad. He was a poor choice in the first place but changeable Trump doesn’t seem to know which end is up so he’ll try anything. On the other hand, at least you knew where he stood. He was against peace talks with the Taliban at Camp David which even sounded a little fish to me. Appears Bolton won that one because they were cancelled?

That was very interesting & unusual association, Eliseo.

Thanks so much for keeping us posted. Glad your trip is going so well!

I agree with John Brennan, firing Bolton was another distraction from the news coverage – in this case Trump’s brouhaha about the path of a hurricane.

. . . and his lining his own pockets with US taxpayers money, i.e. US military staying at his hotels.

Almost everyday hits become everyday hits September 16th, 17th, 18th, and 19th, with the 18th being the most perilous for tRump.

4 months until January sweep.

Only 4 months; thanks for the reminder Bob. I’m almost as intrigued about the lunar eclipse 2 days before the Saturn-Pluto conjunction in 4 months, because it will square the US Chiron as tightly as the full moon next month conjuncts it. In fact, the Sun opposite that January eclipsed full Moon will occupy the same degree that transiting Pluto will occupy in next month’s Aries FM (conjunct US Chiron).

Preparing for the everyday hits next week.

I have arrived at slightkc’s residence. All is ok.

Eliseo, we continue to follow your travel log with interest! Happy adventures!

It is possible with tRump’s hits coming closer together that some of what I see on several of those dates may signify psychological hits (bouts of depression) we do not observe or news (conditions) delivered in private by GOP party leaders showing their pulling away from the swamp creature. Best would be revelation of his agreeing to accept help from Putin in return for being his stooge.

As much as I absolutely dislike Bolton and his pet policies, he does not strike me that he has been deep into the absolute financial graft that many surrounding Trump are entangled.
Which makes me wonder – how much might he know and might he spill the beans?

Thanks for the Planetary Update Nancy..Bob I am hanging my hopes on your predictions of the demise of you know who.. may the astrology save us…

Eliseo- Yea! Rest my friend. Your journey is in full swing and will only get better and better!
SassyGrace- I totally understand. Baby Birds go to when nervous was a smoke alarm sound. It’s a wonder he made it to California alive… 🙂

Several things about the Jupiter-Neptune cycle suggest that Hurricane Dorian was spawned by this cycle. These 2 planets have been transiting within orb of a square for weeks (exact on Sept 21) and when they started their cycle they were conjunct US Natal Moon and Pallas in Aquarius. They were also conjunct transiting Chiron (wounding leads to consciousness).

So, if we think of Jupiter as immense and Neptune as unbelievable and then combine it with the US Moon (US People) at their cycle start, and the fact that they were square (challenging) at the time of Hurricane Dorian, it seems more than plausible.

Add in Chiron’s influence (on the Jupiter-Neptune cycle) and the way the survivors are being treated by Trump, then the picture is complete.

Except that their square won’t be exact for another 10 days. That could possibly mean another devastating hurricane. This Friday. the 13th, is a Full Moon (21+ Virgo) which conjuncts the US natal Neptune (22+ Virgo) which squares US natal Mars at 21+ Gemini (and Trump’s natal Sun).

Add to that, the Full Moon (FM) Mars (17+ Virgo) opposite the FM Neptune (17+ Pisces) with the FM Jupiter (16+ Sagittarius) making it a T-square. Add in Trump’s natal Uranus (17+ Gemini) and it becomes a grand cross.

Again, trans. Pluto is T-square the US Chiron opposite US Juno. I think it might mean another hurricane and it might hit the mainland, and Trump’s Sharpie might be involved with some disastrous results.


‘It’s a highly anticipated matchup between the early front-runner, Mr. Biden, and a liberal standard-bearer, Ms. Warren, who has steadily climbed in the polls to challenge him. Mr. Biden is eager to stress his experience. And his advisers and allies suggested in interviews that, whether obliquely or overtly, he is prepared to seize on one of Ms. Warren’s perceived strengths — her extensive and boldly progressive policy plans — and use that to accentuate his own record of liberal achievements despite the sometimes-challenging political realities in Washington.”


To view or listen to The Stephanie Miller Show, Thom Hartman, Randi Rhodes, and other left wing and progressive activists:


Nancy P takes a reporter to school.


Truly heartbreaking that evacuations did not happen…


Also read a news item that Trump wanted to ease up on sanctions on Iran to encourage a meeting with Iran’s President Rouhani but Bolton opposed it.

Did you guys see this amazing video of Deb Butler confronting the Republicans who voted to override the Gov of NC’s budget veto (something to do with Medicaid expansion) after lying that they wouldn’t have the vote, but did have it when the Democrats were out of chamber! This lady is mad as hell and is not taking it any more. I was worried about her BP – she was that angry for an extended period of time — and rightly so. Her female colleagues, the few that were there, eventually stood up and joined in.


Ralfee Finn Today:

“With the Sun and five planets—Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Neptune—in Mutable Signs this week, joined by a Full Moon in Pisces on Saturday, opportunities abound to soothe ragged edges and mend broken fences, individual and collective. Unfortunately, it’s not likely that all of us will want to work together toward the common good;”


Still in Kansas. Tomorrow night I’ll probaIbly be in Sioux Falls, SD. Everywhere I go sensitive people are having unusual, prescient dreams. Folks dream according to their own subjective archetypes, but the dreams are thematically sImilar, i.e. preparations for endings/beginnings. All agree it portends something we’ve not imagined or conceived.

Keep your eyes peeled for a girl and her little dog and flying monkeys.

I have found the charts that give me reason for concern in January 2020 and I do not want to post them. If what they might support comes about they will not matter anyway.


RE: Tonight’s Debate at 8 PM

Elizabeth Warren . . .
Natal Moon in Taurus, likely around 15-16 degrees, trine the transiting Mars in Virgo and trans. Saturn in Capricorn tonight (a grand trine). Her Taurus Moon will sextile the transiting North Node in Cancer to form a Yod with transiting Jupiter in Sagittarius, which squares transiting Neptune in Pisces and transiting Mars in Virgo. Trans. Jupiter will be the lightening rod tonight.

Bernie Sanders . . .
Natal Sun (15+ Virgo) conjuncts transiting Mars (16+ Virgo) which opposes transiting Neptune (17+ Pisces) as transiting Jupiter (16+ Pisces) is T-square all the above. Also, his natal Neptune (26 Virgo 59) conjuncts trans. Venus (28+ Virgo) and Mercury (27+ Virgo).

Joe Biden . . .
The only natal planet making major aspects to the transiting T-square (Neptune-Mars/Sun-Jupiter) in the debate tonight is his natal Mercury in Scorpio sextile transiting Sun in Virgo, and his Mercury also sextiles trans. Pluto in Capricorn.

He does have natal Sun-Venus in Scorpio sextile transiting Venus-Mercury and Bernie’s Neptune in Virgo. His Mars in Scorpio opposes Warren’s Moon in Taurus.

Kamala Harris . . .
Natal Juno (supports the disenfranchised) at 8+ Sagittarius will be squared by the transiting Moon in Pisces (conjunct US Ceres), which the US natal Uranus in Gemini squares. Topic about relief for hurricane victims or children in cages?

Her natal Moon in Aries that sextiles her natal Saturn in Aquarius (that conjuncts US natal Moon) will form a Yod to transiting Venus and Mercury in Virgo (which sextiles Biden’s Sun-Venus in Scorpio that squares Kamala’s Saturn and US Moon) that will be conjunct Bernie’s natal Neptune. Go figure. Lots of adjusting around the topic of service (Virgo) is my guess.

Nancy, you’re brilliant!
This quote comes from The Definition of Fascism:
“And one final point to note is that in the chart of National Security Advisor John Bolton (dob 11/20/48), the transiting Saturn station is square to Bolton’s Neptune (14 Libra18) from August 6 through October 11. Given that he is the ideological source of some of the most aggressive and belligerent policy toward Iran, it seems likely that his ideological neoconservative claptrap will run straight into the painful wall of reality regarding Iran during this period with devastating consequences.”

‘Simply Unacceptable’: 145 Executives Demand Senate Action on Gun Violence

“In a direct and urgent call to address gun violence in America, the chief executives of some of the nation’s best-known companies sent a letter to Senate leaders on Thursday, urging an expansion of background checks to all firearms sales and stronger “red flag” laws.”


Eliseo – Keep on truckin’ “What a long, strange trip it’s been!” 🙂

VERY interesting article about Trump, by Philip Zimbardo, the mastermind of the famous 1971 Stanford authoritarian/cruelty experiment that allowed subjects to act as prison guards and choose levels of punishment.


Full moon in Pisces is on my mars & venus. Should I keep a low profile? I tend to clash with a few people in my orbit. Moon is opp my saturn, too, apparently. Family emotions? Hope they are all positive. I will try to that (there are a few people who have virgo/leo placements that push my buttons, especially one in particular)

Heard this morning that Malcolm Nance’s wife, Maryse, died yesterday at 4:52 PM from ovarian cancer complications. His books: The Plot to Hack America, and The Plot to Hack Democracy brought him to national notice while he was dealing with years of worry over his love. The heartbreak for his family brings me to tears. Those are the kind of natal charts I wish I could compare.

Sorry, it’s “Destroy Democracy”, not Hack on the second title.

Think about transiting Uranus, symbol of individuality, freedom, disrupting the status-quo, advances in technology, breaking through barriers, and wonder to yourself . . what is its purpose is in Taurus (the material world, that which is associated with the stubborn bull, nature and what we value, building things, beautiful things).

Transiting Uranus – in Taurus – is in the US natal 5th house. What is it about the 5th house that Uranus wants to release from the status quo???

The 5th house of any chart is about the creativity of the individual whose chart it’s in, in this case, us (US). The 5th house is opposite the 11th house, which is about the group, a house associated with the sign Aquarius.

While Uranus, considered to be the ruler or co-ruler of Aquarius, is in the 5th house of the US natal chart, a house associated with Leo and the creative urge of the individual, it would seem to be out of place or going against the grain, even more than usual, IMO.

Transiting Uranus in Taurus is square the US natal North Node in Leo (in US 8th house) and the US natal South Node in Aquarius (in US natal 2nd house). Ah-ha! Uranus has a purpose for being in the US natal 5th house of creativity!

Why so many Democrats running to be the next US President? Why does an artist need so many colors to paint a picture? All the better to create a perfect vision of a perfect world. Each candidate represents a color, or shade of color, unique to himself, in the way that a painter’s palette affords the artist greater expression or creativity of his vision! We as voters can, and must be more creative.

All this freedom of creativity then would seem to be an advantage to the US natal North Node in creative Leo, symbol of the pathway forward.

Where once we (USA) adhered to the US South Node of Aquarius, a sign that operates to the advantage of the group rather than the individual alone, we are being encouraged (trans. Uranus, famous for disrupting the order) now to break away from total complacency and express our individuality. Egads, that would be chaos, wouldn’t it?

Well, yes, if it were forever. However, Uranus and Pluto, Uranus and Neptune, Uranus and Saturn, Uranus and Chiron, plus Uranus and Jupiter have ongoing cycles in which Uranus performs a role, a disruptive role in most cases, in order to break through existing incalcitrant standards so that new ideas can be born. These Uranian moments, these breakthroughs, are not meant to become standard operation.

After all, Uranus, as ruler of inventions and the sign of Aquarius, is about the future which is always in flux. Taurus is not associated with flux; just the opposite. Taurus is about solid foundations and, rather than decimating those foundations Pluto style, it is Uranus the Disruptor that has come to create chaos in the USA.

On May 15, 2018, Uranus entered Taurus, the same day there was a New Moon at 24+ Taurus, which is the same degree as Trump’s MC.

The chart for that New Moon when set in Washington DC had an ascendant of 24+ Gemini, the degree where Uranus was when discovered. The transiting North Node was at 8+ Leo conjunct Robert Mueller’s natal Pluto.

That North Node (on it’s way to the US Natal North Node Return in June, 2018) was sextile the US NATAL Uranus at 8+ Gemini, and together they formed a Yod to transiting Saturn at 8+ Capricorn (where the Mars-Saturn cycle would start in June, 2018) which was opposite Trump’s Mercury (mouth, mind, Twitter) at 8+ Cancer. And yes, that formed a Yod-turned-Boomerang, with all the energy landing on 8+ Cancer, Trump’s natal Mercury.

Transiting Uranus is now T-square the US South Node and the US natal Pholus, both at 5+ Aquarius, as well as the US North Node at 5+ Leo. It is US Pholus being squared by transiting Uranus that has stirred up the animosity between the Dems and Pubs. the blacks and the whites, the men and the women, the well-to-do and the poverty stricken.

It is transiting Uranus in a quincunx (forced to adjust) to Trump’s natal Neptune in Libra, the ruler of his 8th house of his “shared resources”, which trines the US South Node and Pholus in Aquarius (which transiting Uranus in Taurus squares) that is bringing forth much of the discontent we are experiencing in the USA.

From our perspective here on Planet Earth, it seems that we are doomed to become a failed state, but that couldn’t be further from the truth.

We are in transition (a step in the transformation that is Pluto’s bailiwick) from unconsciousness to consciousness as to how our government has been used, yes used by unscrupulous people, and it took a Trump to make that consciousness happen wide scale.

Listen to what these Democrats say tonight and if one or more resonate with your ideas of what is right then you are awakening, and Uranus is doing his job.

Castro attacked Beto in an earlier debate the same way he attacked Biden tonight. Apparently there is a side of him he has kept under wraps.

From the nyt’s:

“Once again this debate season, Mr. Biden came under the fiercest and most sustained scrutiny, from his ideological foes, from a former cabinet mate and even from the moderators. He was pushed on race, on deportations, on health care and, in an intense exchange, on his age.

But in the end, Mr. Biden exited the stage the same way he entered it: the embattled-yet-clear front-runner”

As if they need more – another tropical storm forming over the Bahamas

Going through Kansas, could not help but think of our old friend, Theosophist, L. Frank Baum and his creations, Dorothy and her little dog too. I’m now in S. Dakota looking for an old friend but can’t dally long here.

Last night’s debate gave us some examples of how Uranus in Taurus expresses its energy. Beto O’Rourke said “Hell yes, we’re going to take your AR-15’s, your AK-47’s . .”, something that a candidate would never say in the past, and it had a shocking effect. Guns of any kind have been considered sacrosanct by gun owners and too valuable (Taurus) to be threatened by politicians.

Transiting Venus conjunct transiting Mercury at 29+ Virgo was conjunct Beto’s natal Mars at 27+ Virgo (which trines US natal Pluto at 27+ Capricorn and is quincunx [adjustment] US natal Moon at 27+ Aquarius) when he said those words.

Beto’s natal Uranus at 17+ Libra conjuncts the US PROGRESSED Mars at 17+ Libra which conjuncts the US Constitution Signing chart’s Neptune at 17+ Libra, which conjuncts Trump’s natal Jupiter at 17+ Libra, which conjuncts Putin’s natal Saturn at 17+ Libra.

It is breathtakingly clear that Beto’s remark is the breakthrough (Uranus) leading to changing the Constitution’s 2nd amendment. Perhaps US PROGRESSED Mars is switching from strong man Trump (+ Putin) to strongman O’Rourke as his role model?

Beto O’Rourke has natal Venus at 20+ Leo sextile his natal Saturn at 20+ Gemini (conjunct US natal Mars at 21+ Gemini) and this sextile, when combined with transiting Pluto at 20+ Capricorn, creates a Yod . . with transiting Pluto at the apex of the Yod; the part that must adjust.

Call me crazy, but that remark (rant) by O’Rourke could be a pivotal moment in the race to be the Democratic nominee for US President in the 2020 election.

Also, to anyone who read my comment yesterday (5:55 PM), I erred when I said that transiting Uranus was T-square the US north and south nodes at 5+ Leo and Aquarius when I should have written 6+ Leo and Aquarius, and that goes for US Pholus (small cause big effect) conjunct US South Node, also at 6+ Aquarius. So sorry.

Anyway, transiting Pluto is now T-square the US natal Chiron (wounding/healing) at 20+ Aries (trine Beto’s Venus in Leo) that opposes US Juno (defender of the disenfranchised) at 20+ Libra, which trines Beto’s natal Saturn in Gemini and the US NATAL Mars, and Trump’s natal Sun.

On Election Day (Nov. 2020) the transiting North Node will conjunct Beto’s Saturn at 20+ Gemini. Don’t say I didn’t tell you!

Correction: Mercury was at 27+ Virgo and Venus was at 28+ Virgo and both conjunct Beto’s natal Mars at 27+ Virgo (29+ Virgo is where Venus and Mercury are in today’s Pisces New Moon).

Yes, Beto certainly upped his game last night. He isn’t afraid to rattle the sacred cows. Boy oh boy, talking about taking away people’s automatic weapons and reparation will get him noticed.

If I have his chart right, his progressed Venus will conjunct his Uranus at l7 degrees Libra in November 2020. Sure seems like he will somehow be pivotal to raising the consciousness of the U.S.

In response to Beto’s taking away his assault weapon, a Texas state representative tweets:

“My AR is ready for you Robert Francis”


Eliseo is right. There are those 2nd amendment rebels (who, ironically, have misread the 2nd amendment) who are going to go down fighting ….very unfortunate. I hope this guy is held accountable for his threat.

Sharon K, A real and horrible threat. My first thought was the comparison toRobert Francis Kennedy who was assassinated when the was running to become the Democratic nominee in 1968. I do not think this was unintended. It all so chilling. Yes, that they will go out fighting is also chilling.

Sharon, that twitter feed was so over the top. In particular the scary, dangerous and erroneous beliefs of irrational gun ‘rights’ people. One in particular has no basis in fact according to George Washington historians – “When government takes away citizens’ right to bear arms it becomes citizens’ duty to take away government’s right to govern.”
Mt Vernon library has yet to find an explanation for this misquote or a similar quote of Washington’s that was confused for this statement.

How will we ever overcome the lies?

Henri, I didn’t catch that and, yes, it’s quite awful & chilling, Henri & kiwi.

It’s like all this free-floating toxic masculinity, that feels lost, scared, threatened by “the other”, as well as strong women, is crystalizing into this archtype of a warrior, be it the American Revolution, Civil War, or something more ancient. Very, very misguided energy, only to be called upon when authentically needed, such as against the Germans in WWII, but it is an outlet for toxic male strength when it’s angry and all wound up and has not been balanced by a healthy feminine side, and is used as a substitute for healthy self-esteem and view of realty. Trump is an example but not the most violent — but he gets a kick out of egging the on and being liked by them. And, some of these people have the nerve to call themselves Christians.

“egging them on…”

OMG – trump’s ‘acting’ pick to replace Bolton!

Yes Sharon, that would be US natal Mars (masculine energy) in Gemini (in duality) in the US natal chart’s 7th house (the other), squared by Neptune (lost, scared, threatened) . .excellent work!

Thank you Liz for the info on O’Rourke’s progressed Venus. It looks like right now (using print ephemeris) that his prog. Sun (20+ Scorpio) is sextile trans. Pluto (20+ Cap) and prog. Uranus (20+ Libra) squares trans. Pluto.

Also his prog. Pluto is conjunct his natal Sun now, both at 3+ Libra. No wonder the guy doesn’t want to be a just a senator! Looks as if his prog. North Node was conjunct trans. Pluto in the recent past. Much more in his progressions makes him someone to watch. Thanks again Liz.

Barbk ……yes, Beto is someone to watch…..bright, energetic, ambitious, but his rough edges will hold him back. Venus rules both his Sun and Moon, so it is an important planet in his chart. Still, I would rather see Warren or Sanders take on Trump.

Your observations and analysis always gives me something to think about. Hope you keep it coming.

Thoughts on Donald – after his Baltimore lightbulbs:

Take a look at the clips (not long):


The written article minces no words pointing out Trump’s stupid flaws and his slips of the tongue – it outright laughs at him. Don’t get me wrong – I do not support Donald Trump, but I don’t think people should be laughing AT him or underestimating him, not now, not ever. For one thing, it is not a kind or honest to be snide with anybody, but it is also dumb. It just indicates how helpless his critics feel.

It also raises a question of interpretation of what he is saying – meaning interpretation from whose point of view?

While I’m no fan, I do see that his speaking style and his actual words are often misinterpreted. He is right in that. People give him no credit and make no allowances like they have with other Presidents like Reagan. It is quite clear that his meaning is not accepted or even understood by anyone other than his ‘own’ audience, despite the fact that he will be the President of the US for at least one more year. This is very dangerous.

It is a real failing in his critics and the media, especially when his policies are terrible. People simply resort to disregarding what he actually means because they can’t deal with it.

His policies are real (sadly), but people are so upset that they choose to ignore what he really is saying and who he talks to – at one level, he knows he talks to everyone. Nobody escapes. And if he’s gotcha on one thing, he may get you on more (see below). It works, like accessory giveaways in selling cars.

The criticism comes against Trump’s ‘weird’ behavior and the way he mangles his words. Sure, but lots of politicians do those things – look at Biden’s gaffes, which are many and often. The criticism dangerously disregards the context in which Trump speaks, which he must do both instinctively and consciously (because he always hits a nerve on both sides).

He talks strictly ‘down market’ from an intellectual’s way of seeing things, at the same time as he knows he is connecting with his voters. He deliberately speaks as though he is a working class man, a blunt worded individual who doesn’t care for pretensions or what other people think of him. It must be highly appealing to people in his audience who hate double speak and don’t like pretensions (even though he is pretentious).

Meanwhile his underlying “message” seeps out anyway, although it is a language of context and style, and it does not speak as crudely as his sentences do. It is in his body language, the openness of his body position (though not always) and wide gestures. He is often relaxed, talking off the top of his head. He is riffing and telling (some) people what they want to hear.

The thing is, his message is in an even lower register than the ‘ordinary folks’ in the audience he is speaking to. This is the way adults feel when they listen to a child – they do not feel personally threatened. Imo, it is Trump’s secret: people must feel they are as good or better than he is – and that means they are at least EQUAL. Which is crazy because he’s rich and they are not.

It is a different kind of equality Trump appeals to: believe it or not, it is an idealistic kind of equality that confirms a lot of people’s lower/middle class biases, of whatever color they may be racially. He BEHAVES like he could not be a threat, which masks his power as a President (or a manipulator).

When Trump puts himself in a light where he looks more ordinary than the ordinary people, it will be very hard, for a Democrat to beat him (provided the GOP retains the political advantage they have and assuming the polling machines in the election will not be any more fairly controlled than before).

Speaking of light – one thing I agree with him on is the incandescent bulbs! It is so brilliant.

I can’t believe that he or his team actually FOUND such an issue for him to talk about! Has he ever changed a light bulb? NO!

So somebody must have planted this idea for him, or he is more of a public image genius than anyone has given him credit for!

Speaking for myself, having gathered up bunches of used mercury and other new technology bulbs, and seen them thrown out in my office, I relate to what he is saying. There are no protections for anybody in the marketing of these bulbs – it is true that those toxic bulbs do not take into account what people actually DO with them when they break or are worn out. It’s bad human design.
Somehow Trump has latched on to it and is going to make hay with it. Brilliant. Got to hand it to him – he’s twisted, he should not be President, but despite everything he must know what he’s doing by instinct.

It’s a sad day for democracy, is all I can say, when light bulbs could turn a Presidential election away from ‘real’ issues. But, lightbulbs are serious business too. There you are – the ongoing conundrum.

Unbelievable: the media are all over the lightbulbs. LOL Here’s another one, which links to the NY Times. Here we go on the merry go round – the idea is not to talk about the real issues or what the Dems have to say – focus must always be on the Donald.


Washington Post did a whole article on it:


This (last one, sorry for hogging the light-bulb!) nails it & funny too:


Interesting analysis, Beowulfie.

He is definitely a button-pusher par excellence for the media of this country, and for many people. And I will certainly profess that I am not immune; I want nothing more than to see that awful man locked up and forgotten about in a dank prison cell somewhere, his image tarnished and shredded beyond any hope of rehabilitation, which might be the one thing he fears most.

I have an Aquarian friend who has expressed similar insights as you have regarding the focus on DJT’s style of delivery (e.g. “Trump Derangement Syndrome”), rather than his message. Focusing on the latter may actually be the key to blunting the seemingly unending impact of the former. But he rubs us in such the wrong way that we can’t quite seem to collectively bridge the gap. But if only we could.

This is an interesting perspective on Joe’s performance at the debate.

“We should get moving,” he said. “There’s enormous, enormous opportunities once we get rid of Donald Trump.”


By request, here is Robert Reich with a message:


The Secret GOP Plan to Keep Power

. .or you can just google Robert Reich!

Thank you Barbk, a great link.

Here is Elisabeth Grace’s Forecast for the weekend.

“The Moon is in Pisces and emotions are on the rise. Here’s reminder of planetary patterns today and this weekend:”


Ja! Thanks for EG’s forecast of the FM in Pisces, so close to transiting Neptune and opposite the US natal Neptune, and when that FM chart is set in DC, the ascendant is in Cancer (midway between US Venus and Jupiter) so this Full Pisces Moon is the ruler of the chart.

That it was taking place as transiting Mars was opposite transiting Neptune while transiting Jupiter T-squared them both, drives home the overwhelming emotional effect this FM will have on our planet, especially the United States.

It occurred to me that, rather than being seen as a failed state, the USA is doing what it does better than any other country; putting on a world class show on how to topple a rogue leader of a free country. Hence the band of 10 merry Democrats putting down said leader on public television. Hence the magic of Pisces and its ruler Neptune!

This period in which the Pisces Moon holds sway (next 4 weeks), emotions will be powerful, specifically with the US people (moon symbolizes people), and this FM is in the 10th house of this FM chart for all the world to see.

Then there is the T-square between transiting Mars (force) in Virgo opposite trans. Neptune (emotion) in Pisces, both square trans. Jupiter (expansive) in Sagittarius which is now opposite Beto O’Rourke’s natal Vesta and Saturn in Gemini. Behold the glory of a grand cross in the transitional Mutable signs at a transiting time in world history. Saturn stands firm and Vesta invests and Gemini communicates.

The beauty of O’Rourke’s Saturn (20+ Gemini) and Vesta (15+ Gemini), aside from their proximity to US natal Mars (21+ Gemini) and Trump’s Sun (22+ Gemini) and US natal Neptune (22+ Virgo), is their trine with Beto’s natal Uranus at 17+ Libra which conjuncts US PROGRESSED Mars, US Constitution’s Neptune, Trump’s Jupiter and Putin’s Saturn, all at 17+ Libra. As Nancy might say:

How The Mighty Will Fall (or words to that effect)

What we saw on Thursday night is the power of Beto O’Rourke’s feelings regarding the butchering effect of assault rifles on innocent people murdered by sick people with access to these weapons designed for use in war.

What we have here is an opportunity to defeat the NRA, the crazies and Donald Trump – all at one time – through the power of emotion (water signs Pisces, Scorpio, Cancer). If you don’t see that yet folks, you soon will. It is time to step up to the plate and have the courage of our convictions. I’ll bet Trump is terrified to take on Beto O’Rourke, face to face, man to man. Hell yes he is!

Apologies for (1) saying this Pisces Full Moon had influence for 4 weeks when it will only be 2 weeks, and (2) for saying a “transiting” time instead of a “transitioning” time in world history. I stand behind the rest of the above comment. So far anyway


New Sexual Misconduct Allegation Against Brett Kavanaugh Emerges: NYT


For today –

Kavanaugh – Sec.Prog. Q2 Mean Quotidian
Sep 14 2019, 7:00 pm, EDT +4:00
[b]Transit Saturn 285°06′ (-270 = 15°06′)[/b]

Sun 016°29′
Mer 016°32′
Ven 015°56′

*** END REPORT ***

For Oct 29 –

His progressed Sun on Oct 29 will be at 16°35′, transit Saturn will be at 286°35′.

Saturday evening
14 September
I’m in Rapid City, South Dakota. I have reservations tomorrow night in Billings, Montana.. There were tornadoes and flooding on Hwy 90, which meant I had to go around the devastation, in other words an extra 300 miles on top of the usual 300 + miles to get to my destination. Monday night I should be in Butte, MT, Tuesday night in Spokane, WA, Wednesday finally arriving home.

Wow, Eliseo! So happy for you that you are almost there. I am not yet sleeping so thought I’d see if you’d checked in. Only 3 more days! Sorry about the extra miles you had to add on, & the hardship for those in the Billings area (my sister in law lives in Bozeman). You are a real trooper. Get that 2nd wind if you need it for your final sprint. It should feel amazing to finally be home.

Thanks for the update Eliseo. It looks like you may not have any more adverse weather conditions to deal with if the forecasts I read hold up. Hot today (dry and cool with AC), showers on Tuesday (dry inside the car and showers, not storms outside).

Rest well on your way and after you arrive home.

Rest well Eliseo–getting closer!
Do whatever is necessary to replenish strength. Travel in joy.

It has just occurred to me that, in this incarnation, Donald Trump is almost completely (if not totally) incapable of expressing compassion because in his birth chart there is no house that has Pisces on the cusp. Natal Neptune is retrograde which also makes it difficult to exteriorize compassion, and it is in Libra, an air sign, and it squares his own natal Mercury (expression) in Cancer as well as the US natal Jupiter (and Venus) in Cancer.

So, it isn’t so much that he has no compassion; he may have it but just can’t express it.


Transiting Makemake (a dwarf planet) at 5+ Libra is conjunct Trump’s natal Neptune and Makemake is associated with nature and how natural resources are used. It seems to be indicating that Trump is a tool for raising the human consciousness regarding natural resources.

Transiting Logos (a trans-Neptunian object or TNO) is also at 5+ Libra, conjunct transiting Makemake and Trump’s natal Neptune. Logos represents logic and reason and cogency. This would indicate that the Universe, in the language of astrology, is forcing humanity to have meaningful conversation regarding natural resources such as icebergs and rain forests,via the Trump tool.

It seems to be working, at least in the Democratic debates the subject of climate change has surfaced, although not lingered on much. Too bad Jay Inslee had to drop out of the competition so soon, but maybe the Universe has other plans for him.

It does, barb, and he will be a powerful governor and re-elected (I hope) as it all takes shape. He will be a leader in this fight.

Sunday evening
Now in Billings, Montana, but I’m in a dead zone. I can’t text anyone I’m here. I hope nevertheless this message is transmitted by internet.

LOL, BarbK, I think you ought to take a look at your own chart first when you make a comment like that about DT!

You are the kind, thoughtful soul in the cosmic equation on that one, I think, not a repressed compassionate Donald who doesn’t exist.

Even if you are looking to be nice about it, there’s just no use putting lipstick on a pig. 🙂


Presidents and the U.S. Moon

“Obama was born with a Saturn-Uranus quincunx at the critical 25º of their respective signs. He was elected when his progressed Lilith and North Node were both at 25º Leo where they were electrified by conjoining his natal Uranus – all exactly aligned with the U.S. Moon in Aquarius. Currently, Biden is the natural leader of the Democratic contenders since his natal Jupiter at 25º and his progressed North Node at 25º Leo are perfectly linked to the U.S. Moon.”


Calls for Kavanaugh’s Impeachment Come Amid New Misconduct Allegations

“Several Democratic presidential candidates called for the impeachment of Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh on Sunday after The New York Times published new information about allegations of sexual misconduct against him, while Republican leaders condemned the reporting as irresponsible and defended him.”

Eliseo, good to hear from you again! Getting closer – woo-hoo! How exciting!

Eliseo, good to hear from you again! Getting closer – woo-hoo! How exciting!

Barbk, on Sept 12th your post seemed to say look for the most original person out there. After the debate you picked Beto, who had a refreshingly authentic moment about guns. But originality goes to Andrew Yang, who is saying think about how money in our own hands will help us prepare for automation, climate change, and housing prices. Time to take a deeper look, imho. A great way to do that is the Joe Rogan interview, JRE 1245. It turns out he is going through a Saturn opposition, a Uranus opposition, Pluto is now square his Chiron, and has gone over his Sun and will again during this campaign. He is going through a lot to get his idea out there which he really believes will help in what he call the 4th industrial revolution. Please check him out.

Marjorie Orr:

“Maybe Pluto in Capricorn is doing some good pulling down financial monoliths and exposing destructive greed.


Chiro, you make some excellent points and I do admire Andrew Yang. Is it he who is going through the Saturn and Uranus oppositions and the Pluto square his Chiron? If so, thank you!

I wasn’t intending to suggest one candidate over another (at least not intentionally) but just what to watch for in a few of the candidates. After the debate I noted Beto because he expressed great emotion and the Full Moon right after the debate was emotion par excellence.

It remains to be seen just how the Pisces Full Moon conjunct Neptune in a grand cross with transiting Sun-Mars in Virgo and Jupiter in Sagittarius, opposite Trump’s Uranus, Sun and the US Mars in Gemini will play out with the audience.

It remains to be seen how much the audience (voters) has to do with the selection of a candidate, and how much money has to do with that decision. Bob and others have predicted that the 2020 President elected will be a “breather” or the calm-before-the-storm kind of term, and the real (visible) change will come with the 2024 elected President . . and I agree. For now, I just hope most voters will be as thorough as you regarding the candidates for 2020 Chiro, and thanks again.

Beowulfie, I was hoping you would realize that was a tongue in cheek remark I made about that pig president. Just wanted to see if the astrology had an answer for such callousness. I have no illusions about a saved soul, although he HAS made us all much more aware than we were in 2015!

Ok, BarbK, good to know your thoughts on DT are grounded, not illusionary. Whew!

Although it’s not wrong to speculate since you never know what the universe has up its sleeve, and you didn’t actually say DT has it himself except as a ‘tool’, going so far as to associate logic and reason and cogency with DT is definitely a stretch.

No more need be said on that…

A comment from the nyt’s:

“President Trump and his aides just tried to falsify information about a hurricane. Why believe them about an attack in the Middle East?”


Linda G said that the Saudis were responsible for the attack and blaming Iran.

Hi all, I listen to the Bulwark podcast and others because I like to hear what Republican never trumpers talk about even if I dont agree with many of their values.

Today they were talking about the fact that the Dems went nuts on the Kavanaugh thing when it looks like The NY Times really didnt find too much.
They are talking about impeachment. (I wish) but impeachment is certainly not happening once McConnell is in the senate and this was a rallying factor for the Republicans before and shouldn’t be made into a thing now. Is this really what Dems want to focus on now, instead of keeping their eye on the ball, which is that this election MUST be a referendum on the madman in the WH.

The other thing they spoke about and I have to agree is how Beto O’Rourke who basically has ZERO chance of being POTUS has damaged the DEMS who for years have tried to tell Republicans that they are not out to take their guns, however, Beto announced “Hell Yeah we are going to take away your AK47’s”. That , especially in Florida, there are many Dems who are so into their guns, that this gun culture is not going away any time soon, so having Beto say that is a line that will be used in ads and radical rallies , NRA etc and that lines like these, can only hurt the Dems and help Trump. SO they think that these two things have helped trumps agenda and are really bad for the Dems. While I totally agree with a ban on assault weapons, I think I agree that Beto’s rhetoric was NOT helpful when you think about it. I can only imagine how Fox News talked about this.

What are people’s thoughts here on this?

I have to say the fact that there were no questions or issues talked about in the debate about women’s rights, the Supreme Court or the absolute corruption happening in the Trump administration is not good, nor is it good to talk about taking away guns and private health care, its just not going to go over well with the average American. The Dems are more and more being perceived as way left and socialist.


I hear your concerns, however people have to stand up for what they believe in.

Some people are perceived as way too right and fascist.

Another dead zone for phone calls & texts but Internet worksn
I’m in Butte, Montana.

Thank you Diana for your strength in being able to listen to Republican podcasts to understand what they are talking about! I don’t have the stomach for it, lol!
I applauded in my chair when I head Beto in the debates. It was quite powerful and he raised the question loudly and clearly about whether we should have weapons of war on our streets. Does the 2nd A allow any and all guns? I think this is a legitimate question for Americans to grapple with. Do military weapons belong in civilian hands? Beto is only addressing military weapons and I think it’s Republican histrionics for them to say he’s coming for their guns. They said the same about Obama and will of any Dem , but it’s a lie.

What Beto said reminds me somewhat of when then Mayor Newsom of San Francisco in 2004 began issuing marriage licenses to same sex couples. There was huge blowback, from many heavies in the Dem Party, too. And while it rallied the Right it also fueled the movement for marriage equality with inspiration and determination.

Diana, I also totally agree with you that the lack of any discussion about reproductive freedom, the Supreme Court and corruption in the Trump Administration was glaring! Especially about reproductive healthcare and freedom.

I just checked it out and you’re only about 10 hrs away from Olympia, Eliseo. Pretty much a straight shot on Route 90. You’ve just about done it!

It’s more like 13 to 14 hours. Google estimates are always unrealistic. Because of gas, lunch, and restroom stops, and walking the dog, etc. you’re doing really well if you average 50 miles per hour. I’Ll keep you posted.

Well said Frank; very well said.

Tomorrow transiting Saturn at 14+ Capricorn stations direct, when it is at its most potent (because it isn’t moving), and it is in a square with US natal Saturn + Trump’s natal Chiron & Juno in Libra. As Nancy noted, transiting Saturn is also sesqui-quadrate Trump’s ascendant in Leo.

Frances Sakoian and Louis Acker in their booklet “The Minor Aspects” say of the sesqui-quadrate:

“They bring dramatic occurrences into the life that demand immediate attention, work and practical action, especially if found in cardinal signs.”

Transiting Saturn is in a Cardinal sign and it is stationing direct.

Of note, the transiting North Node tomorrow is within a degree of being conjunct the US natal Sun (13 Cancer 19), exact on October 1, and remains in that degree through Oct. 9th.

During that time, when the transiting North Node conjuncts the US natal Sun, there will be a New Moon in Libra that squares US natal Jupiter in Cancer and conjuncts Trump’s natal Neptune in Libra, and 2 weeks later there will be a Full Moon that conjuncts US natal Chiron in Aries.

The air is thick with expectation now; will we go to war, or will we rent our troops out for someone else’s war, or will we do something more rational?

In the upcoming New Moon (that squares US Jupiter and conjuncts Trump’s Chiron + Juno) on Sept. 28, there are some additionally striking planetary positions that affect the US natal chart….

1) Mars (action) at 26+ Virgo (details) trines Vesta (investment) at 27+ Taurus ($$) and both will be trine the US natal Pluto (transform) at 27+ Capricorn (institutions).
2) Transiting Venus (values) at 17+ Libra (balance) conjuncts the US progressed Mars (action), and the US Constitution Signing chart’s Neptune (unclear), and Trump’s natal Jupiter (expand), and Putin’s natal Saturn (restrict).
3) Trans. Saturn and trans. South Node (13+ Cap) oppose the US Sun and trans. North Node (13+ Cancer) and the US Sun + trans. NN will be quincunx (need to adjust) the New Moon chart’s Ceres at 13+ Sagittarius which could relate to weather or food or family separations.

There is also in this Libra New Moon chart a Neptune (16+ Pisces) opposite Juno (15+ Virgo), T-squared by Jupiter at 17+ Sagittarius which opposes Trump’s natal Uranus at 17+ Gemini. This is a difficult grand cross (esp. for Trump) that too could be about family separations.

Not to be overlooked is the New Moon chart’s Mercury (23+ Libra) opposite the New Moon chart’s Eris (discord) at 23+ Aries which the US natal Mercury (24+ Cancer), + Trump’s Venus and Saturn, will T-square. Trump’s financial/tax reports maybe?

Much to ponder for the next 11 days. Now, what’s Lewandowski got to say for himself. Sigh.

Sorry, transiting Saturn will be at 13+ Capricorn when it stations direct, not 14+ Capricorn. It will oppose the US Sun at 13+ Cancer (and the US natal Psyche at 14+ Cancer) and square US Saturn.

Spokane, WA
Tomorrow, either Ellensburg or maybe home to Olympia.

Wow Eliseo – you’re almost there! Such anticipation for such a long time – the journey seems to have taken such a short time by comparison. Had to google Spokane to Olympia – inquiring minds want to know – ha ha – 319 miles, 5hrs 7 minutes
May the remaining leg be safe and happy

Hang in there, Eliseo… the end of the rainbow is coming into sight! Hugs to you AND the beautiful critters… we’re still talking about both of them! (smile)

Aquarium Age:

“Saturn goes direct today; it’s been retrograde since April 29. We’ve been in the deliberate pace of its “turn-around” for the last week, and this week that pace continues. I was going to write that Saturn Direct could add an element of stability to the regular routines of daily life but, really, that would be a ridiculous statement because nothing is stable right now and everyone feels the instability even if they can’t determine its source. What’s more, you don’t need an astrologer to figure that out.”


Thanks ja, Ralfee’s perspective always amazes me; she sees a path, if not a silver lining, through the most troubling times, including all the Pluto/Saturn revolutionary times we are experiencing.

I was looking at a chart for the New York Stock Exchange (May 17, 1792) and realized that its Moon at 19+ Aries was conjunct the US natal Chiron at 20+ Aries, where the Oct. 13 Full Moon will be. Since transiting Pluto will be square that Full Moon, and the US Chiron and the NYSE Moon, it could mean a scare for the stock market.

However, the Full Moon chart’s Jupiter (20+ Sagittarius) and Ceres (18+ Sagittarius) will trine the Aries FM + US Chiron + NYSE Moon, so it could be a course correction of some kind.

I also noted that the NYSE Sun at 27+ Taurus (where transiting Sedna [underwater] and Vesta [investment] are now), while it trines the US natal Pluto (27+ Capricorn) it is also square the US Moon (US people) at 27+ Aquarius, and that while the NYSE Neptune at 27+ Libra squares the US natal Pluto in Cap, it also trines the US natal Moon in Aquarius. No wonder it has so many ups and downs!

It seems the stock exchange might be acting as a safety valve (or maybe a barometer) for the USA since the NYSE natal Ceres (nurturer) at 12+ Cancer is on one side of the US natal Sun (13+ Cancer), and the NYSE Chiron at 15+ Cancer on the other side helps keep the US Sun on a fairly even keel.

One last observation is that the NYSE Venus is at 5+ Taurus and that’s exactly where transiting Uranus will be at the Oct. 13 full moon, right across from the Full Moon chart’s Venus at 6+ Scorpio, which trines the US natal Jupiter in Cancer. Too much of a good thing maybe.

Lastly, the NYSE

Ooops, ignore that last line I forgot to delete.

Donald Trump happens to be nine blocks from my home today, UGH! at a fundraiser at the U.S. Grant Hotel, 9-3.

Thank heaven there is a huge protest and I’m about to be on my way to join in.

Eliseo, Safe travels for this last leg of the trip.. I hope you are home safe and sound very soon!

Follow the yellow brick road.. there’s no place like home : )

I am in Santa Barbara and LA for the week – “Trumpageddon” is what they are calling the traffic jams he is creating.

Wow. Knew it had to be something — the whistleblower complaint from the intelligence community that was being withheld from congress?

The Washington Post is reporting someone in the intelligence community became aware of Trump on a call with a foreign leader making a promise so egregious, the intelligence official filed a whistleblower report against the president.

Someone has finally had enough. It as usual, a Trump appointee is trying to keep anyone from knowing what happened, refusing to appear before Adam Schiff’s intelligence committee. Heard tonight
That official will appear Sept 26th.

In the few weeks before the complaint was filed, Trump talked to both Putin and Kim Jong Un.


Thanks Teresa, both Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell have also devoted their entire programs to this tonight.

Sounds like it could be the work of that grand cross between Neptune opposite Mars t-square Jupiter opposing Trump’s Uranus in the chart for the Full Moon in Pisces (which was opposite US natal Neptune that T-squares Trump’s Sun + US progressed Mars in Gemini which opposes his Moon in Sagittarius.

Saturn in Cap was (is) opposite US Cancer Sun and square US Saturn and Trump’s Chiron and Juno in Libra. That’s the way Neptune operates; it sneaks up on you from behind, exposing you to the blinding light, in this case a Full Moon.

Now Brian Williams is discussing the whistleblower story too.

I got my Mars’s mixed up, Trump’s Sun conjuncts US natal Mars, not the US progressed Mars; that one conjuncts Trump’s Jupiter in Libra.

Yay Ja!!!

Arrived home18 September 9:24 pm Pacific time.
Many Thanks to all of you with your goodwill, spells, prayers, thoughts, etc. for my safe journey. Now the new chapters begin.

Best of joy and happiness to you and yours Mr. E!



Links after the first 2 have a space after http: so post can be made.

A post I made on February 12th and 13th 2017:

On September 18, 2019, Saturn will station Dx opposite Sibly Sun, Nixon’s resignation Sun, and my GOP chart’s Sun. Mars will be activating Sibly Mars and Neptune, Pluto will trine Sibly Neptune.

This is just 116 days before January 13, 2020.



Inauguration chart with transits
http: //i.imgur.com/vjpsmv0.gif

PAL Sep 18 with prog natal
http ://i.imgur.com/90OO5f1.gif

From a post of mine on DU (January 2019):

Saturn in Capricorn will oppose the US Sun January 17, 2019, in longitude and RA when the next Congress takes over, and will station in opposition in September 2019. An event that precipitates September 18th and 19th station occurs on about July 25th. The July date tells us there is less than 1 year for almost everyone to finally believe he will be put out. During that September time he will finally admit that he has lost and will begin looking for a deal which he will probably finalize in the 3 days before Thanksgiving. That deal will see his leaving office in January 2020.

Something may come out in June or July that leads to Pelosi’s Jupiter transit in September when it trines her natal Jupiter on or around the 16th.

https: //www.democraticunderground.com/122018482

By: Bob on June 17th, 2019
at 10:55 am

I think he will be neutralized in 60 days.

It may take longer to finalize but as of September 18th he may be just a figurehead for his…his…his? His whatever.

By: Bob on July 20th, 2019
at 2:33 am


w00t Eliseo!

Rest and be in Joy and Peace. Blessings to you and your dear wife.

Congrats Eliseo!!!! I think we should have a party to toast your success! And on to the next successful chapter . . . . . . . .

Bob, I hear ya – it may all be so very very true. The truth, however, does not drive politics. If it’s about this whistleblower stuff, well, whistleblowers have a sad history: even when they are right, they mostly end up wearing it. Whistleblowers are not accurately symbolized by Uranus revolutionaries; they are Neptune mystics or idealists.

(Curious: which planets are you using? I don’t have any experience in testing.)

Sorry to be negative, but I’m still figuring on DT being Pres for another year come what may. No impeachment. No jail. Since when has the universe thrown a political hail Mary pass that didn’t get fumbled?

Excellent news, Eliseo! Glad you’re all home together once again!

New chapters, eh… in more ways than one! (LOL)

Wonderful news Eliseo!

So glad you made it safely home..

Relax. Unwind. Rejoice : )

Eliseo- Woohoo! Best news of the day. Spinning and clapping and throwing confetti! Let all the new wonders begin.

The transiting Uranus is now in a T-square with the US NATAL North Node in Leo opposite the US NATAL South Node in Aquarius (+ US Pholus), and at the same time the TRANSITING nodes, North Node in Cancer conjunct the US natal Sun, and South Node in Capricorn that conjuncts transiting Saturn, and they create a T-square with the US NATAL Saturn (+ Trump’s natal Chiron and Juno) in Libra.

With these two pressing situations in the US natal chart, both demanding a decision be made between the “old” ways of dealing with such decisions, or the “new” ways of doing so, one such situation is surely the brouhaha over the Saudi oil fields explosion/bombing.

Based on the US South (old) Node in Aquarius, we would consult with our allies (an Aquarius thing) but the US North (new) Node in Leo suggests doing something creative and dramatic (a Leo thing) on our own. In this case it is transiting Uranus in Taurus forcing this decision and it suggests something totally unexpected, maybe something re: technology would be appropriate.

On the other hand, in the case of the TRANSITING nodes, the South (old) Node in Capricorn is conjunct TRANSITING Saturn which recently turned direct, suggesting a formal procedure is the way to address any decision, while the North (new) Node in Cancer is conjunct the US natal Sun suggests something different.

That might include a family get-together to discuss the options involved in this decision that’s being forced by US NATAL Saturn (+ Trump’s Chiron+Juno) in Libra, likely about partnership.

The NEW way (trans. NN + US Sun) would probably endeavor to make everyone comfortable (food and drinks for all), while the OLD way (trans. SN + trans. Saturn) would be all business and in charge.

Taken together, the two sets of nodes (US natal nodes and transiting nodes) with their challenging T-squares (1. trans. Uranus and 2. US Saturn + Trump’s Chiron and Juno) are either working in tandem or are in conflict.

Perhaps the whistleblower’s secret will shed some light on the conundrum.

As it turns out, the trans. Uranus at 6+ Taurus is semisquare (45 deg.) the Pisces Full Moon at 21+ deg. and sesqui-quadrate the Sun in Virgo opposite the FM (remember? dramatic occurrences needing immediate attention) so the element of surprise (Uranus) is part and parcel of this Full Moon.

This Full Moon took place on September 14th, 5 days ago, which was when the Saudi oil fields were attacked.

Yesterday was when the whistleblower kerfuffle became known to the public. Is this to distract us from the Saudi-Iran dispute? One never knows these days, and we are in the throes of a Pisces Full Moon-conjunct trans. Neptune and opposite US natal Neptune in Virgo (conjunct trans. Sun) . . .

. . which is at cross-currents with transiting Full Moon’s Jupiter in Sagittarius that’s opposite Trump’s natal Uranus, NN, and Sun in Gemini, which was squared by the Full Moon in Pisces (which was semisquare trans. Uranus). Whew.

Maybe I’ve become so jaded I suspect every late-breaking news story (about Trump) is out there to throw us off the scent of something more important.

PS – The Full Pisces Moon was trine the US natal Mercury (media) in addition to opposing the US Neptune.

From my charts I think Putin may have known this was coming the day before yesterday. How? Possible mole in the WH or our intelligence. Could such be somebody whose communications are not scrutinized as tRumps are?

Dated April 5, 2019 – Edited to remove past event dates (except for those in September 2019).

Barr Relocated to DC – May 23 1950, (Speculative time) 11:32 am, EDT, Capitol Building

The opposition of transiting Neptune to Barr’s progressed Saturn IS EVERYDAY FROM NOW THROUGH EARLY 2020. It is a major aspect and the only one that is in effect every day through early March 2020. That progressed Saturn is right on his progressed Neptune/Pluto midpoint also everyday in that same period (progressed midpoint now at 168°29′, progressed Saturn at 168°57′; progressed midpoint on March 1 2020 at 168°30′, progressed Saturn at 169°03′.

That Neptune opposite Saturn will be triggered by these transits (not doing Mercury or Venus):

Sep 5 2019 Sun at 12°38? Virgo conjunct natal Saturn
Sep 10 2019 Sun at 17°12? Virgo conjunct progressed Saturn

Dec 4 2019 Sun at 12°38? Sagittarius square natal Saturn
Dec 9 2019 Sun at 17°14? Sagittarius square progressed Saturn

September 6 2019 Mars at 12°38? Virgo conjunct natal Saturn
September 14 2019 Mars at 17°12? Virgo conjunct progressed Saturn

January 21 2020 Mars at 12°38? Sagittarius square natal Saturn
January 28 2020 Mars at 17°15? Sagittarius square progressed Saturn

July 28 through November 7 natal Neptune at 14°52? Libra and progressed Neptune at 14°54? Libra will both be squared by transit Saturn every day (RA September 1 through October 5). Strongest when Saturn Stations direct on September 18 2019 at 13°55? Capricorn. That is also a bad day for tRump and Pence.

Sep 13 2019 Neptune at 17°12? Pisces opposite progressed Saturn.

Feb 5 2020 Neptune at 17°15? Pisces opposite progressed Saturn.

October 3 2019 Pluto at 20°38? Capricorn (RA 292°24?) stations direct square to progressed Mars at 202°19?.

January 18 to February 4 2020 (RA December 18 to January 3) Saturn at 24°30? Capricorn square progressed Mars.

Bob- Trump had this phone call on July 25…

Eliseo – Glad you are home. Get a good rest. Blessings to all!

Thank you for finding that Henri. The dates are holding up. I hope all the way through January 2020 – and after if needed.

“An event that precipitates September 18th and 19th station occurs on about July 25th.”

On behalf of all sentient Australians, may I apologise in advance for the expected toadying from our Prime Minister Morrison this coming week whilst in Washington. He won by 1 seat in our election but has a messiah complex. He is what is known in these parts as a ‘happy clapper’ (in U.S. terms an evangelical) so you know he loves Trump.

Today’s flooding from Imelda in the Texas area and surrounding states is more of the transiting Jupiter-Neptune square (exact on Sept. 21), an expression of their cycle’s energy which began on May 27, 2009, when they were conjunct each other, and trans. Chiron, and the Moon-Pallas conjunction in Aquarius in the US natal chart.

The Sun at that moment in 2009 was at 6+ Gemini and square Ceres who, at that moment, was at 6+ Virgo. The recent August 30 Virgo New Moon was also at 6+ Virgo.

I would also expect weather-related events to be prevalent when trans. Saturn and Pluto make their critical aspects to one another after their cyc;e-starting conjunction in January, 2020, due to Ceres being part of it, all 3 at 22+ Capricorn.

For example, on June 29, 2028, when trans. Saturn and Pluto will make their 1st square, transiting Mercury, Mars and Uranus will all be conjunct at 11+ Gemini, while trans. Ceres will quincunx them at 10+ Scorpio.

At that time, June 2028, Ceres will also be sextile the Jupiter (9+ Capricorn) from the chart of the Saturn-Pluto cycle start in 2020. That sextile (part
of which is in the Saturn-Pluto conjunction chart and part in the 2028 Saturn-Pluto square chart) will form a Yod with the triple conjunction of Mercury-Mars-Uranus in Gemini in the June 2028 Saturn-Pluto square chart. It will no doubt be about Mother Nature expressing herself.

I can’t explain it but you might want to note that on your 2028 calendar.

Posted on inauguration day 2017:

“I am hoping that trump (or Republican policies passed) will have produced such blow-back by voters that he resigns rather than be impeached or the GOP, fearing the loss of the presidency and Congress later in the year side with Democrats in order to impeach him.

This would be in January 2020, possibly on the 13th when the Sun, Saturn, and Pluto oppose his natal Saturn. If the GOP is fearful enough they will play nice the rest of the time before elections. Another chart I have indicates the date could be January 16th.”

By: Bob on January 20th, 2017, at 4:12 pm

Mashup chart for that day:


tRump is in hell right now.

His DAL came in at 3°33′ pm, EDT, with Saturn right on it’s Asc. Right now it has the midpoint of transit Saturn and Pluto on it’s progressed Asc. When he wakes in the morning his progressed natal Saturn/Pluto midpoint will square the PDAL’s progressed MC.

Whistleblower stuff is supposedly out. Trump pressures Ukraine to investigate some company whose board included Joe Biden’s son.

Ukraine refused. Trump blocks release of US aide to Ukraine to help it fight off Russia.

Then Trump or Pence (who met with them in Trrump’s place when Trump cancelled trip abroad because of hurricane) or Giuliani or all of them told Ukraine it would get the money if it reopened investigation.

Whistleblower report withheld, but then being made public, and Trump releases aid money.

Giuliani admitted pressuring Ukraine to investigate Biden on CNN tonight.

Here’s a timeline for dates. https://www.washingtonpost.com/. Can’t get exact link. No free articles left.

Wonder if Trump said his friend Putin would be coming after Ukraine if the didn’t do what Trump wanted.

From theNYT’s Editorial Board:

“Someone, preferably the Congress, needs to step in and demand this president abide by the law and, more importantly, protect the interests of the United States. Trump’s flagrant contempt for the norms of executive behavior require action. It is no longer acceptable that we sit idly by and watch this destroyer of democracy deliver intelligence information to foreign powers with impunity.”


nyt’s opinion piece:

“Someone, preferably the Congress, needs to step in and demand this president abide by the law and, more importantly, protect the interests of the United States. Trump’s flagrant contempt for the norms of executive behavior require action. It is no longer acceptable that we sit idly by and watch this destroyer of democracy deliver intelligence information to foreign powers with impunity.”


Bob- bravo! Your analysis has been right on the money!

What Trump is really doing.

“Trump is making offers to remove sanctions or trade military hardware in return for direct help in the 2020 election. He does not need an influence campaign to win this time; Trump needs direct intervention – Russian/NK agents assassinating rivals and Democratic leadership within the United States and/or otherwise sowing enough chaos that he can “cancel” the 2020 elections and maintain power. He also needs help from other powers in putting down civil unrest that would follow.

The situation is so grave that individual US intelligence officers are sacrificing their careers to try to head it off. Treating this like an attempt to secure a favorable trade deal ignores the fact that Trump always looks out for himself and had no scruples about using extraordinary means to do so.”

Hello everyone just doing a little check to see if my comment will post.. was having an issue.

I got home from work early and turned on MSNBC. I always mute tRump as soon as I hear his voice, but it took me a few seconds to realize it was him speaking. His speech seems less pressured and instead of vacillating between whiny and droning, it seems to be more like normal speech. He also does not look as florid. And I don’t think he was reading from a teleprompter. I am wondering if they have him on some new med regimen. Did anyone else notice this?
Maybe beta blockers?

ja- can you post a link to that article.

Yes, Ja, I would like to know if that is pure opinion (although it sounds plausible) or more than that. Looking forward to more and more whistle blowers emerging asap until they can’t stop them. They possibly fear for their lives and if that is true, this is much deeper than we realize.

Congratulations to Bob for seeing a very precise prediction come true. He predicted months ago that an event on July 25 (the Awful President’s call to his Ukrainian counterpart) would lead to a political storm on September 18-19. Right on. I am most impressed.

Hopefully, this will lead to Trump’s resignation or impeachment on January 13, 2020, which is Bob’s most important prediction.

So far, House Democrats have been so inept at impeachment they may hurt their Presidential nominee, whoever he or she turns out to be.

But hope springs eternal.

Here in Canada, Justin Trudeau is in trouble as expected in his campaign for reelection on October 21. His chart is under severe stress this year and so will Canada’s be until the mid-2020s. He was in a tight race even before the blackface. This could be the final straw.

Is Trudeau reasonably good though, other than this? Sometimes people only see the bad. Unfortunate about the black face. I understand that it can be offensive but maybe his mindset was only on trying different races out. Just like Me Too, anything can be pushed too far. Anyway, being white, I guess I can’t understand.

Yes, the Dems have been inept at many things: counting on Mueller too much (maybe), the Kavanaugh/Christine Blasey Ford thing, letting McConnell control so many things including not interviewing Garland (I wonder if we had done that with Kavanaugh whether it would have come off well or also made us look bad). BUT, Trump has protection and I agree with Pelosi: if pubic opinion isn’t strong enough and there isn’t a smoking gun or enough hard evidence, in the long run, we look bad. If there is the hard evidence, leading to changing public opinion strongly, then even if the Senate doesn’t impeach, we look good.

Also, barb has mentioned the 10/15 full moon effect, and Nancy has conjectured about military involvement in October, with simultaneous lifting of stress for Trump, through early January. After that, all bets off and impeachment possible.

Go Bob, thank you!

Hi Sharon, the NYT article that Ja posted was an opinion piece by their editorial board.

Regarding the Justin Trudeau blackface stories – from what I gather all theatrical themed settings – perhaps oblivious that it may have been interpreted by some as being offensive (being from NZ, in my earlier years I would have never guessed it was such a no-no) – this ‘outrage’ smells very much to me like a political hit job, typical of ginned up right wing dirty tactics.

Sharon, your point about “counting on Mueller too much, and the Kavanaugh-Ford thing, and McConnell’s control . .these are the steps to our awakening and healing.

When a disease, call it corruption, develops as gradually as our country’s disease has, it is harder to detect for the majority of citizens. When it’s hard to detect it isn’t diagnosed properly, and it continues to destroy its host.

Corruption and deep-seated bigotry would destroy the US if left unchecked, but thank goddess for Pluto Returns and young people.

I think having transiting Uranus in the US natal chart’s 5th house now is the biggest breakthrough in the US population’s consciousness. The 5th house symbolizes creativity and that includes birthing babies. Our country’s babies are taking charge of creating awareness; have you seen the crowds of the global climate strikes going on today? It was organized by young people all over the world.

People born when the present Jupiter-Saturn cycle began in May, 2000, are 19 years old now and Jupiter-Saturn were in earth sign Taurus when they came together.

Trans. Jupiter and Saturn in Taurus were trine the US natal Neptune in Virgo which trines the US natal Pluto in Capricorn, and that’s power baby. As transiting Pluto heads toward its rendezvous with the US natal Pluto, the first time ever, trans. Uranus is in the US 5th house of kids and trans. Neptune is in the US natal 3rd house of teaching kids.

Young people born in 2000 – especially in May and June, have a natal square between Jupiter and Saturn (societies symbols) in Taurus and Uranus in Aquarius (that the US progressed Mercury conjuncts) and they are driving home just how the corruption of fossil fuel businesses and the gun business are so prevalent and powerful in the USA. These two things alone are the biggest killers of people and the planet.

These 19 year olds also have Neptune (compassion) in Aquarius (groups) that conjuncts the US natal South Node (what is no longer developing growth) and the US natal Pholus (a small cause, like a demonstration, turns into a big effect, like a worldwide movement).

So, as we of the older generations fret over how our elected officials fumble the ball – over and over and over – the youngsters are taking action into their own hands, letting the elected officials know what they want and that they are coming after them if they don’t get it.

I don’t think we should begrudge the shocks of Trump’s audaciousness, we really should be grateful; it is opening the eyes of citizens to what is so prevalent in our society and government. It is destructive yes, but we must rebuild almost everything that Saturn represents because of the corruption. We need to be shocked to the bone in order to do that. We will survive.

Here we go,


Sharon, counting on Mueller too much, the Kavanaugh-Ford thing, the McConnell control, are steps to our awakening and healing. If not for the US Pluto Return and young people, our country would die from corruption and bigotry.

Watching the young people today in the world wide Climate Change Strike they created reminds me that trans. Uranus is in the US natal 5th house of creativity. The present Jupiter-Saturn conjunction cycle started 19 years ago, and 19 year old people have a natal square between Jupiter-Saturn in earth sign Taurus and Uranus in Aquarius (where US progressed Mercury is).

That Saturn-Jupiter conjunction in their charts is trine the US natal Neptune (compassion) in Virgo (planet earth) and the US natal Pluto (transform) in Capricorn (institutions). As transiting Pluto closes in on its first ever US Pluto Return, it is the young people that will heal the USA.

I don’t think we will begrudge the stomach churning things Trump is doing forever because it’s the only way to get the masses to become aware of the corruption in our government. This and the young people and the US Pluto Return will see to it that the USA will be resurrected and have an excellent future.

BarbK, I just love that you can always find the pony in the pile of manure. Thank you!

Barbk, Here is a real turnaround – even as his wife is being investigated.

As ‘Moscow Mitch’ Rings in His Ears, McConnell Backs Election Security
Even if it took a taunt to do it, he approved $250 million for voting protections.

“On Thursday, the Senate Appropriations Committee unanimously approved a bipartisan spending package containing $250 million to help states safeguard voting systems. Among the co-sponsors was the majority leader, Mr. McConnell, who, in a floor speech before the committee’s vote, declared himself “proud” to support the measure.”

Banks! NEVER lose sight of the pony!

ja, what great news! Is his wife really being investigated?

FYI, the asteroid Askalaphus, known as the whistle blower, was at 29+ Aquarius and retrograde at the Pisces Full Moon on Sept. 14th, quincunx (adjustment needed) Mercury at 29+ Virgo. It was just 2 degrees past the US natal Moon, and exactly opposite Trump’s ascendant.

Barbk, Look, discovered here in San Diego at Palomar Conservatory.

4946 Askalaphus, provisional designation 1988 BW?, is a Jupiter trojan from the Greek camp, approximately 52 kilometers in diameter. It was discovered on 21 January 1988 by American astronomer couple Carolyn and Eugene Shoemaker at the Palomar Observatory in California.

Elaine Chao being investigated

For now, anything on moderation can’t get through. Most posts are going to spam and I have to move them. I am working on getting things fixed, so please be patient.

Thanks for the heads up Nancy, anything from me in moderation can be deleted.

Wow ja, I didn’t know that about Askalaphus. In myth he was the gardener in Hades and ratted on Persephone for eating the forbidden fruit, making her ineligible to leave and go back to earth life with her mother Ceres. However, Ceres worked out a deal where Persephone could spend half the year with her mom and the other half in Hades with Pluto, hence spring-summer is when she’s on Earth and fall-winter she’s not. Clever Ceres!

Thanks for the Chao investigation info too.

Willow’s Web:
“Saturn went direct at 13 degrees Capricorn on September 18. Pluto goes direct at 20 degrees Capricorn on October 2.
So if you’ve had it up to here with “the way things are,” consider yourself tapped in at a deep level! Right on schedule…
The good news is – we’re catching our breath at equinox ahead of a major push toward restructuring, re-balancing, and resisting “the way things are” while we carve out a reality that is more congenial to actual human needs.
We’re about to take on new responsibilities and new leadership as we “just say no” to the bullshit and choose – however we can, from whatever power and position we have – something more sane and humane. We’re taking even the tiniest step toward sane and humane. Then we’re taking another tiny step in that direction. And another. And another.


Justin Trudeau has a solar eclipse coming on his next birthday, which happens to be Christmas Day. This should be a turning point for him.


You wrote: As ‘Moscow Mitch’ Rings in His Ears, McConnell Backs Election Security

What McConnell agreed to is money that can be spent on anything election-related and not the more substantive bills that focus on election security. So the GOP can say it cares but in reality, as Senator Wyden said, its a “total sham.”

“Pelosi Not Budging on Impeachment and Her Colleagues Are Privately Screaming”


If my speculative time for Pelosi is right she has very bad days on the same days in November just before Thanksgiving when I think tRump may get a deal. Between now and January 2020 is too short a period of time to impeach him so I am thinking an agreement to resign is struck. The sticky part is that I do not think Congress will be in session but that is up to leadership, not law or custom.

Even if Congress is not in session I guess the Resident could contact Pelosi with a proposal and tell her he will make it public if she does not accept. Uncharted waters. If it happens it may not be made public right away.

Bob, what kind of deal do you think? I wonder if Pence pardons him as he leaves which covers the Feds and on the state cases. he can fight them in court forever. Pence would have to get something as his political future would be toast.

silcominc, astrology is not capable of determining specific results beyond saying a particular time is likely easy or difficult. Beyond that, without some known particulars, all is speculation.

I think Pence’s political future is toast because of association with this administration.

Andre, I can’t get a strong reading for Trudeau either way for October 21.

Bob, thank you for your always cogent comments, but the one you just posted has me screaming ‘noooooo!!’. It would be best if Trump were to lose big in the election and the more controversy, the better the chance that he will lose. Then he’s gone, gone, gone—-maybe it won’t be so clean.

My own rather basic assessment of Trump’s presidency all along has been that somehow or other he won’t get in again. It appears we’re on the same page that far. But, then what’s next?

I have looked at Pence’s charts in depth and feel that despite their deep differences, Trump and Pence have a workable and symbiotic relationship. It is one that has served a quiet purpose for Pence’s religious camp. They have been waiting and hoping.

If Trump is set aside, Pence rises. He is going to be a strong candidate and no Repub will oppose him. He has become an administrator (with Jared, even though they don’t get along) and he probably knows the government better than anyone – he’s had time to learn. He has a known relationship with the military. He is Christian and plays very well to his base. He has been low key and squeaky clean and low key throughout his term as VP in his behavior. He is media savvy and a smooth talker. He knows how to keep his mouth shut. He looks like Mr. Clean. Et voila, now you have a real contest for the presidency! Dems beware.

Just think of it: Trump gets “a deal”, whatever it may be, and he either resigns (which I doubt), or stays on in some figure head way with agreed restrictions on some of his actions. Then we have Pence as President.

If Trump stays on, Pence will be in charge, not Pelosi, at least that is my understanding of the chain of command (correct?).

That would put Pence in an ideal situation to run in Trump’s place in 2020. The Repubs would like that because it gives them almost a year to get ready for the election under Pence.

That, imho, is a disaster. The country will go crazy in a new and even wilder way.

Is there no relief? BarbK, you are most welcome to find a silver lining in this – we need one! Please say I’m totally, entirely wrong……!

Checking my charts for Pence in November and next January I do not think he will be around any longer than it takes to get rid of tRump. He may be the resident for 1 day in January 2020.

I do not think the Republican Party or it’s elected members of Congress will play much of a part in running the country after stealing a SCOTUS chair from one of the most popular recent presidents, indeed, meeting on the day of his inauguration plotting to make him a 1 term president no matter what their party politics may do to the country, refusing to bring bills that they had been in favor of up for a vote in order to hurt their opposition and hurting the country by refusing to participate in the governing process, and stonewalling the process of law during this administration, further damaging the country with their illegal refusals of participation as ordained by law.

In the not too distant future Rethugs will likely see themselves out of power for a period reminiscent of elections after the crash of 1929 from 1932 through 1994 when they had the majority in 2 Congress’s out of 30 in the House and 5 out of 30 in the Senate. They were denied leadership for 58 out of 62 years during which time the country recovered from the financial disaster their leadership caused and built the most prosperous middle class in it’s history while they were out of power. Make America great again was done by Democratic leadership then and again after the 2008 fiasco.

From your lips to God’s/Goddess’ ears, Bob. The GOP’s Neptune Return hasn’t dissolved them so far, but has instead exposed their insanity and complete depravity in deference to DJT.

Under a Parliamentary system, they could be completely ousted from power and weakened to the point that they would never again be able to win another election. The party could then collapse and be eliminated from existence entirely.

Under the two-party U.S. Presidential system, however, even a massive defeat just means a chance to come back in due time with a different label on the same old garbage. I’d rather just see the 1854 GOP entity completely fall apart and disappear. Another conservative party can emerge in its place, but the particular energy signature the U.S. Republican Party embodies needs to be wiped clean off the face of the Earth.

A pardon from Pence won’t save DJT from the New York state courts. He could fight them indefinitely, yes, but he doesn’t have unlimited financial resources or time, and the Russian mobsters won’t continue to prop him up once his usefulness to them has ended. It’s obvious that being POTUS has taken a massive physical toll on him. The stress of dealing with the courts may be what finally does him in, and NY will not stop until they bust him, or he’s dead.

I think the bigger question for us all is what comes next after this episode. It’s obvious that the U.S. Pluto Return is about exposing the seemingly bottomless depths of corruption within our halls of power, and the grave flaws inherent within our current two-party political system and within the parties themselves.

It took the improbable election of DJT to blow the doors open so that we could see the utter incompetence of our elected officials and the lack of will within either the Republican or Democratic parties to thwart an obvious con artist and all of the trouble he has caused, failing to recognize who and what he was and that he was out to game the system for his own ends from day one. Letting things run their course with the current charlatan, hoping that Biden or someone like him can decisively oust DJT in November 2020 and restore the status quo is a fool’s errand. Even if Biden wins, our system has been damaged and weakened beyond simple repair. And worse, we’ve done nothing to put off the next DJT from laying claim to all the silly old nostrums and ideas that lifted the first one into the White House.

The solutions to these problems will never come from within the system itself, but rather from the grassroots, e.g. “We, the people.”

If we are waiting for someone else to fix our problems for us, America may well continue on in some form or another, but the much vaunted democratic Constitutional government of the United States as we have known it, is finished.

Lewandowski looked like a squirming little boy under Barry Berke’s thorough questioning.


“”Democrats simply need to start welding the power that they already have.

Well said BuckeyeShadow!

Bob, I pray that you are correct. What you are saying is totally in line with what Linda G and Kim C of Intuitiview have been saying, especially the latter.

Beowulfie, from your present perspective it is a frightening situation. I can scarcely muster the strength to come out from under the bed covers and face the day. But that’s just my scaredy-cat Cancer side’s viewpoint. When my Jupiter-Sagittarius side kicks in other options present themselves.

Right now the US PROGRESSED Venus (values) at 29+ Aries (or thereabouts) is square the US PROGRESSED Pluto (transformation) at 29+ Capricorn, telling us that US VALUES are going through a transformation. What has become the norm, i.e. you are only worth what you have in the bank, is being questioned by the masses.

The circumstances of US voters have been changing. For one thing, those voters are getting younger. There is a growing concern about what kind of a planet Earth will have become in 40 years and that somewhat overrides personal ambition. It is a paradigm shift the likes of which we haven’t seen in 70 years.

What you and the rest of us base our foreseeable future on is what we know of basic human nature, history, politics and astrology, as perceived from our ground level perspective. We talk on a Mercury level of facts and perceptions. What we need is some Jupiterian perspective to balance it.

In about 2 months, on November 19th, transiting Jupiter will be conjunct the Galactic Center’s center at 27 Sagittarius 07 that trines Trump’s natal Mars and ascendant in Leo and sextiles the US natal Moon at 27+ Aquarius. At that time, Nov. 19, the Sun at 26 Scorpio 55 will T-square the US natal Aquarian Moon (+ Pallas) and Trump’s Leo Mars and ascendant.

Also going on will be a grand trine to the US natal Sun (13+ Cancer) from transiting retrograde Mercury (11+ Scorpio) and transiting retrograde Neptune (15+ Pisces), while the transiting North Node (9+ Cancer) will still be in orb of a conjunction to the US natal Sun.

All this will come ONE WEEK after a Full Moon conjuncts the US natal Vesta (what the US invests in) at 19+ Taurus and the Full Moon will be conjunct transiting Vesta, so it is a US Vesta Return too!

(In the last Vesta Return in April, 2016, trans. Pluto at 17+ Cap was square the US PROGRESSED Mars at 17+ Libra which conjuncts US Constitution Neptune and Trump’s natal Jupiter and Putin’s natal Saturn. Little did we know what was about to happen.)

The transiting Venus ($$) in a chart of this November Full Moon, when set in Washington DC, will have just crossed over the US natal chart’s ascendant at 12+ Sagittarius. The Full Moon chart’s Uranus (unexpected) at 3+ Taurus (the degree Chiron was when discovered) will sextile the US NATAL Venus at 3+ Cancer. Transiting Juno (partner) at 3+ Libra will square US Venus. The sextile between Mercury and Saturn in this FM chart will form a Yod to Trump’s natal Uranus (surprise!). But I digress.

When transiting Jupiter conjuncts the Galactic Center (exact on Nov. 19) many of us will get a new Jupiterian (big picture) view that will likely change our routine Mercurian detailed view of things. It could be personal or it could be political, and it might just be both.

Hang in there Beowulfie, don’t let the Neptune mirage lower your expectations, we’ve got a lot more Uranus surprises coming that could change everything.

You said it Breatheeasy, BuckeyeShadow nailed it.

For what it’s worth, as transiting Uranus backs up in Taurus, it will complete a Yod with Beto O’Rourke’s natal sextile between his Sun in Libra (conjunct his Pluto and US natal chart’s MC) and his Neptune in Sagittarius.

It should become apparent around the Taurus Full Moon (close to his natal Taurus Moon) on November 12th. Transiting Juno will be conjunct his natal Sun in Libra and transiting Pallas will conjunct his natal Neptune in Sagittarius. Hope and pray it’s not another mass shooting.

I have been posting it for almost 3 years Banks most recently on January 13th of this year on DU. I Sent the link for my DU posts to Kim in early June.

My earliest posts with that material may have been on Astrology Weekly but a low life over there hacked into my computer and deleted 10s of thousands of files and since then my computer always got messed up whenever I went there so I stopped using that site.

Things work out – that persons MC and natal Saturn will get a direct hit from the January stellium

Bob, after the ’94 election the Republicans kept crowing about their success. Given cause and effect, I couldn’t help but think, “And we’ll eventually find out again why you lost power.”

David Hogg is one of those 19 year olds born at the time of the Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions with a natal Neptune in Aquarius that conjuncts the US natal South Node and centaur Pholus at 6+ Aquarius.

His natal Uranus at 20+ Aquarius (that conjuncts the US progressed Mercury) and squares his natal Saturn in Taurus (which conjuncts his Jupiter and Mars).

He was born more than 6 weeks before the exact conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn, but he is the product of the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction (cycle) that transiting Pluto and Saturn in Capricorn have activated by trine. Their conjunction in January will also activate the Jupiter-Saturn cycle start point by trine.

David was a survivor of the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in February, 2018 and is an active advocate for better gun control laws. He is one of many 19 year olds with their natal outer planets aspecting the US chart.

David’s Pluto is at 12+ Sagittarius conjunct the US natal chart’s ascendant at 12+ Sagittarius (Pluto was at 11+ Sagittarius retrograde at the time of the 2000 Jupiter-Saturn conjunction).

David’s natal Neptune conjuncts the US natal South Node (what no longer serves growth) and US natal Pholus (small cause, big effect), all at 6+ Aquarius.

David’s natal Uranus at 20+ Aquarius is conjunct the US PROGRESSED Mercury (how the US thinking and communicating has progressed).

David’s natal Sun at 23+ Aries is where transiting Eris (discontent) was for a very long time and the degree it will return to in a few days in retrograde motion. His Sun (and transiting Eris) squares US natal Mercury in Cancer and will square the Saturn-Pluto conjunction in Capricorn in January.

David Hogg and his fellow 19 year olds are old enough to vote now and they will transform the government in many ways through their votes and their activism, but especially through new gun reform laws.


“Trump’s public standing, his ability to remain in office and get re-elected, is shown most effectively by the conditions around his natal and progressed Midheaven. While transiting Jupiter, Saturn, and Pluto will be favorably trine his Midheaven throughout 2020, his progressed Midheaven at 4º Leo is another story. Transiting Uranus in Taurus has already squared it once (on May 19), and will do so two more times (this October, then March 2020). This astrological set-up reveals a severe crisis of leadership unfolding over the next several months

I can see where Trump’s popularity with his “base” and Republicans that want to keep the power will be reflected by the Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto trine but, at the same time, it will be wonderful to see the rotten moral fibers and corruption disclosed — and stay disclosed.

barb, it was even more wonderful to read about David Hogg and his fellow 19 y.o.’s. Remember the others, especially the powerful Emma Gonzales?

When I think of these young leaders, and factor in very special people like Greta Thunberg, I am in awe at how this is unfolding. I haven’t checked her astrology but she is part of this group of activists who are standing strong. Were they Indigos? Crystal children?

I watched “The Roosevelts”, the documentary now on Netflix by Kenneth Burns (and want to see his latest one on country music but haven’t caught any of it yet) and I could not help but be in awe, and totally impressed by the strong moral fiber of both Teddy and, later, Franklin and Eleanor. The stands they took, the personal physical and emotional trials they withstood and fought to rise above. Is it possible that there are still people like this on earth, people with the highest values and the backbone to carry out their calling and mission.
These young people have answered the calling but still have the energy and certitude of youth. I feel they will stay on track though. When you look around at our somewhat soft generations, born of affluence and convenience (many of them) and separated yet joined by electronic mass communication, yet children of an era that will spawn ongoing innovation, it’s really a wonder to behold how life’s trials and circumstances mold character (of course, the seeds have to be there, and that includes intelligence, emotion and intellectual). and those of good character will cause the pendulum to swing in the other direction. The momentum is building now.

Thanks, barb and all here for your observations.

Pipe dream. Strength in numbers.

10 platforms chosen by a poll of voters to be recipients. $10 donations of each donor would be split by $1 going to each of the approved platforms.

There are about 128 million families in the U.S. of which 1/2 (64 million) could be willing Democratic party supporting families. 2 people per family with jobs yields 128 million paychecks. A goal of 100 million (78%) of them to donate $10 once a year (would be their only political contribution for the year). would equal 1 billion dollars (like the big guys!) to be shared by the 10 agreed on targets gives 100 million dollars to each.

All citizens contributing would have made a strong donation with their once a year donation. If there are more than 2 paychecks in a family (a student or retiree working a part time job could afford $10 once a year) or a contribution of more than $10.00 the targets would receive more than $100, 000,000 that campaign. The program could be conducted in non campaign years also to build a fund only distributed in campaign years allowing for more targets, larger grants, or both.

This can probably be better set up and conducted than this-out-of-the-blue idea of mine.

Banks, I sent the links to my DU postings to Linda G last year and Whimsy and Revealing Light in April of this year thinking the timing dates might be a help to them.

For anyone who missed it or would like to see it..

Greta Thunberg spoke at the UN today and she brought me to tears. She spoke with not only the knowledge, but the integrity, wisdom and courage way beyond her years. What an incredible young woman.


To see young people involved in issues when I think they should just be enjoying their youth fills me up with ping-ponging pride and regret Elizabeth.

So often the theme of this song is true about children when governments (adults) consider climate change.

“Out Of Sight, Out Of Mind” by The Five Keys 1956 2:13


Elizabeth, she made me cry too. I bet she got to many Americans since her natal Uranus (26+ Aquarius) and Pallas (25+ Aquarius) are conjunct the US natal Moon (27+ Aquarius) and Pallas (26+ Aquarius), and her natal Mercury (28+ Capricorn) conjuncts the US natal Pluto (27+ Capricorn).

Chances are her natal Moon in Capricorn is where the January 2020 Saturn-Pluto-Ceres conjunction is too!

Yes Arbo, the one sure constant in the universe is change. And a for sure example is coming tRump’s way and ours too.

If my chart for Nancy Pelosi is correct, or nearly so, she is furious by today’s declaration by 7 freshmen members of the house and although she will put on a cooperative spin at tomorrow’s meeting she will be seething inside.

“Get ready. It’s on now. — Seven national security Dems call for impeachment”


Elisabeth Grace:

UPDATE: on Al Gore. Avid Readers may recall I looked at his horoscope last month, and anticipated that we should be hearing from him fairly soon — and here he is: “The Climate Crisis is the Battle of Our Time, and We Can Win.” Thank you, NYT, for publishing Gore’s op-ed on the front page of the Sunday Review, on the exact Jupiter-Neptune square! Here’s another interesting thing about the timing of this op-ed. Saturn is just one degree away from 15 Capricorn, which is where Pluto was on the seventh Uranus-Pluto square on March 17, 2015. Why is this interesting? Because on that day, the NYT published an op-ed on climate change from…Al Gore. Here is the forecast from that day. The fact that Saturn is currently activating that seventh square suggests an opportunity to get real, take responsibility and make a game plan. In 2020, Jupiter will hit 15 Capricorn — so let’s see what kind of expansion occurs on the ambitious advance presented in Gore’s most recent op-ed.


Hey friends,
Just checking in. I have some observations to share relative to my recent trip through several states, but that’ll come later.

I’m adjusting slowly to being back in the PNW. This will take a while. I’m living with my terminally ill wife, (she’s got a few years left) and with her somewhat difficult mother who only in the last couple of years has come to accept me. (Took her 32 years.)

I’ll be posting more later after getting computers set up again. Posting from my phone is pretty limiting. Meanwhile, I got a pretty good deal on a 2016 barely used plug-in hybrid car which will enable me in finding work here. I may or may not take another teaching position. Pay for adjunct professors tends to be a fourth to a third of what HS teachers make. But I still want to keep my finger in the education pie as I need to finish some important research.

I’m thinking your predictions re: Mr. T. may be spot on. This latest scandal may be enough to prick the conscience of Conservative Dems, as well as enough R’s to get that big karma ball rolling, eventually flattening Mr. T, & company. If he’s out in January 2020, we’ll have a clearer idea of which Dem might be most appropriate to run against the R candidate.

Per the astrology, my feeling is that by 2022 or 2023 we are likely to see the emergence of entirely new political paradigms, quite beyond our current conceptions of Liberal & Conservative.

With a deal so quick on the car it seems you have hit the ground running Eliseo. Unpacking everything can be a big job so pace yourself.

I think tRump’s machinations are shut down on November 17. Jousting until then.

I agree with you about the country’s political future direction.

ja, thanks for Eliz. Grace’s article, and the confirmation that the UFO’s seen on the videos taken by Navy pilots were legit. The truth will set us free!!

That, and the fact that trans. Saturn is activating the 7th square between Pluto and Uranus on March 17, 2015, has made my brand new Tuesday.

On that day at that moment when the Pluto and Uranus square was exact, the MC of a chart set in Washington DC was at 22+ Virgo, the degree of the US Neptune, and Chiron at that moment was at 17+ Pisces, where trans. Neptune was just this weekend.

So, here we are in the middle of a Neptune world. Is it real or is it Memorex, and does it even matter any more?

Raye Robertson has a new article to ponder

Thanks kiwi for RR’s new article. The connections between Trump’s and the NRA charts is noteworthy. More on this when I’ve read the whole piece but obviously we aren’t in Kansas anymore. Even so, I’m always fascinated by the planetary cycles and their agendas.

Eliseo, thanks for checking in. I was hoping we’d hear from you soon. It sounds like things are beginning to fall into place, which is very good (a la Saturn direct).

I purchased an ’07 Prius in 2010, I think it was, and it is still running. Not much is needed as compared to non-Hybrids — and even less is needed on Myron’s all electric Nissan Leaf which he got a really good buy on in 2013 as it was a 2012 and with limited mileage, it wasn’t desirable. I was against the purchase but it has turned out to be perfect for him (future electric cars will have much more range and charging stations available – I wouldn’t advise it now for someone who drives more than he does — he has to plan his daily excursions to accommodate the mileage restriction).

My 2007 Prius still only has 77K miles. If your prospective hybrid has low mileage, that sounds very good, and it’s even better if it’s a Prius – as Toyota just makes great cars – but there were airback recalls that you should check on). You can also check the insurance database to see if it has had any accidents. I think my car did but they suppressed that fact somehow (it had a nut and bolt in the dashboard as if they had to put it back together and it wouldn’t stay in place until it was bolted down). However, it’s been a good car.

Your wife is in my prayers (as well as you) and I’m holding her in the light, brave, strong woman that she is. Same goes for you.

This Ukraine thing may be it — we’ll see. I am not looking forward to a president Pence however temporary, though.

Relative to what’s been shared, I have noticed a definite shift when Saturn turned direct. It has been playing with my descent (cusp) all this time and, again, what’s been the highlight issue has seen a definitive direction take place, with several important primary relationships, particularly my spouse. These seem positive, finally well-organized, and moving forward in a clear direction. It is just amazing how the timing works.

Let me rephrase that last paragraph as it’s the only one I didn’t proof read before posting.

In line with what’s been shared above, I’ve noticed a definite shift in my life when Saturn turned direct, as it’s been playing with my 10+ Cap descendant these last few years. The primary relationships involved seemed to “suddenly” take shape and move forward in a positive direction, not just due to my interior psyche but, even more so, as dictated by the external actions and attitudes of the primary actors in my life, particularly my husband and stepson. You are right, barb, it is just so fascinating, and those who are not students of astrology (or teachers) miss out on these levels of meaning.

“The dam has broken now, we’re going to impeach!” This really might be it. May it snowball from here and more smoking guns come out. Trump’s masters must be working on several options, one of which is a deal that allows him to leave the presidency intact. Sigh. He will pay in the end. I think Nancy P was hoping this would happen without a need to impeach as that takes a lot of time and resources and she might be getting her wish. Maybe by the time he leaves, there will be no real need for a Pence presidency other than a short transitional one. But WHO would the Pubs run – Romney?

Hi Sharon,

In line with those words “The dam has broken now, we’re going to impeach!”

….. most noteworthy is the timing; with a resolution for impeachment to be presented to Congress tomorrow. Saturn, now direct will conjunct South Node (13 ’59 Capricorn) on the day of the Sept 28th New Moon in sesquisquare to the Aug 21st 2017 solar eclipse (28 ’53 Leo) directly impacting Trump’s Mars and ascendant. The 9/28/19 New Moon itself at 5 Libra conjoins Trump’s natal Neptune in trine to tr. Uranus at 5 Taurus re-emphasizing the notion that “the dam is indeed breaking”.

Sharon, glad you are experiencing the positive side of Saturn! In yesterday’s Fall (Libra) Equinox chart the 3 outer planets, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto + Chiron are still traveling in retrograde motion (or so it appears to us on Earth).

For the next 3 months (until the Winter Solstice) their energy remains in review mode, although Pluto stations direct in a few days so some transformation due to this review process will become obvious. Pluto will reach it’s station retro degree on Jan. 23, 11 days after its conjunction with Saturn. That’s when the walls come tumblin’ down, so to speak.

In the meantime, the Equinox chart promises some tumbling for the US starting now. Transiting Equinox Mercury at 14+ Libra (conjunct US Saturn at 14+ Libra) squares the Equinox North (path forward) node at 14+ Cancer and the Equinox Moon (the People) at 15+ Cancer and the US Sun (13+ Cancer and US Psyche (14+ Cancer).

This entourage in Cancer is opposed by the Equinox Saturn (13+ Capricorn) and South (what’s ready to be released) node (14+ Capricorn). Taken altogether, we have a loaded T-square meant to force change.

But there is a path, perhaps a sleight-of-hand maneuver, that will ease us through this process and that’s provided by Neptune in his many forms.

The Equinox Neptune (16+ Pisces retrograde) trines the Equinox Moon and North Node + US Sun and Psyche in Cancer. We might be seeing that now via Pelosi, John Lewis, 7 House Dems with military backgrounds who have choreographed breaking news opportunities today.

Although Equinox Neptune is still in orb of a square with Equinox Jupiter (17+Sagittarius) which opposes Trump’s natal Uranus (17+ Gemini), the air is rife with drama and theater and that’s one of Neptune’s gigs.

Then there is the Equinox Mars at 23+ Virgo that conjuncts the US natal Neptune at 22+ Virgo that trines Equinox Pluto retrograde which will station direct in 9 days (Oct. 3). This is real-life theater at its most dramatic.

My chart for Putin today has him singing “It’s Cryin’ Time Again”. I think he sees the writing on the wall. Thar’s good because my finger is getting sore.

Cryin’ Time by BUCK OWENS Original Version 1964


With permission from Lorna Bevan:

“To the beat of Pluto’s subliminal shamanic drumming, the countdown to 2020 – a year unlike anything
you’ve experienced before – has started. From now on, everything matters, everything counts. On October
3rd Pluto turns Direct in Capricorn heading towards the once in 507 years conjunction with Saturn in
Capricorn on January 12 2020.This means that all 3 Gamechangers in the dramas of 2020 – Saturn/ Pluto/ Channel this moment of time out of time to completely re-frame what’s possible for you …… nothing less
than a fertile seeding ground for radically different ideas and answers to come from immanence into
reality, from dreamtime into real time.
The incoming Freedom Codes are expanding your Free Will Choice to create both a unified Personal Field
and a unified Collective Field. They are deleting your old self-sabotaging beliefs as well as distortions or
blocks to the higher timelines. Now is the moment to make your move – even a small one – toward the life
and expression of an authentic creativity which has seemed so far out of reach. No. More. Waiting.”

5D Astrology Report: October 2019
Turning Life Shocks into Leverage

Remember, Trump’s scheme to blackmail Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden or his son included a messenger sent in Trump’s place — Pence.

When Trump cancelled that trip to Poland because he wanted to golf while pretending to handle the hurricane, he sent Pence, and Pence met with Ukraine leaders. So we may get a 2-for-1 on impeachment.

I’m so glad you’re home safely. I hope you and your wife get many happy years together.

Thanks, Jerry, Barb, Bob…

Maybe we will even get Put out (“we” meaning the world), who knows?

Finally — Nancy Pelosi expected to announce at 5 p.m. today opening a formal impeachment inquiry over Trump’s blackmailing (my word, not hers) of the Ukraine.

Before everyone gets even more excited about impeachment, please read this:


I’m sticking with prior comments on impeachment. Won’t happen. Lots of fury and noise, but until July 2020, when transiting Uranus finally squares DT’s natal Uranus, there’s gonna be no formal action – and then it will be too late because the election will be imminent.

Nancy is a smart lady – she may allow the process to begin, but she knows it can’t finish before the election. She’s going to string it out as long as possible because the real issue is “WHO of the range of Dems” is going to run against DT, or whomever is the candidate on the GOP side. Without a credible, stable, electable “WHO” the Dems are sunk. (May the heavens keep us from Pence and even more right wing cronies – Tucker Carlson?)

Whoops, sorry, I meant when transiting Uranus squares DT’s natal Pluto (in the 12th). It might be sudden, but it may also be secret, though Pluto in Leo will never go nicely.

And transiting Saturn Rx will also inconjunct DT’s Ascendant. That’s enough to do the trick.

Okay, Nancy at 5:04 p.m., …announcing house of representatives moving forward with an official impeachment

clock ticks over to 5:05: Inquiry.

Very interesting: also this afternoon, McConnell and the Republicans blinked. Unanimous vote in the senate to have the Whistleblower’s complaint forwarded to the Senate Intelligence Committee.

One of the reports I read said McConnell himself McConnell himself “hotlined the resolution calling for the release of the complaint.”

Which means he and the minority leader agreed they could pass the bill with unanimous consent, announce what they’re doing two a special hotline in each members’ office, and members have 15 minutes to object or the thing passes at the end of the 15 minutes.

So … has Mitch read the Whistleblower complaint? Heard the tapes of the calls Trump made?

The Saturn station last week in opposition to the US Sun brought a sharp blow to the President in the form of the whistleblower complaint. The Pluto station at 20 Cap next week in an exact square to US Chiron at 20 Aries will bring the constitutional crisis to its peak. There should be more stonewalling from the White House.

Pluto already stationed last year at this degree. That was when the Mueller inquiry began. When Saturn stationed at 20 Cap last spring, the Mueller report came out. The simultaneous Saturn and Pluto retrogrades seemed to send the impeachment issue away. Now it comes roaring back. Further milestones will be reached when Saturn again crosses 20 Cap in December (that may be when articles of impeachment are drafted) and Mars squares both Saturn and Pluto this fall. Venus is now squaring Saturn and Pluto and a strong woman leader steps to the plate. Expect her to make headlines again next week.

This all leads of course to the Saturn-Pluto-Ceres-Jupiter conjunction. This will be both a power play and a tremendous step forward. I don’t expect the House to even refer impeachment to the Senate. They could just vote it and refer it to the American people in an election year. But if they do refer it to the Senate, GOP Senators will have a tough decision to make. They might suddenly abandon Trump collectively, as they did with Nixon in 1974. Romney’s timid musings and today’s unanimous vote in the Senate may be a sign of what is to come in January.

Pence recently went to Ukraine. If he delivered Trump’s threats, he should be impeached as well.

That would make Pelosi President!

I don’t think I can handle the possibility that you both suggest Theresa and Andre, that Pence and Trump go down together! And Pelosi become our President.

Barb K. and Others– Please comment on Pence’s chart. Thank you, Prof. Marc Bertonasco.

So does anybody know the exact time Nancy made her announcement?
I am assuming it was 5:00 pm.

Next month will be even worse for the orange thing when the banks cough up their stuff.

Lunar Returns for the orange thing are very helpful to see what around the corner for him…

From Paul Krugman:

The Winners and Losers of the Latest Trump Scandal

” Senate Republicans: It’s looking quite likely now that G.O.P. senators will have to vote on charges of impeachment — charges that will be based on documented abuses, not disputable interpretations. Most if not all of them will, of course, vote to acquit. But in so doing they’ll expose their corruption and disloyalty to American principles for all to see.

So it’s been quite a couple of weeks. And while it won’t be over until November of next year, and probably not even then, it looks as if Trump and his party are finally in the kind of trouble they deserve.”

It’s not quite that clear a path to President Pelosi.

If Trump is in deep trouble, Pence, too, if someone could convince Pence to resign, Trump could pardon him and then nominate someone to become voters, who could then assume the presidency of Trump resigns or is impeached.

But … the nominee must be someone who is approved by a majority vote of both the House and senate. (Good luck finding such a person, plus imagine the Republican infighting that would bring.)

That person would certainly face tremendous pressure to either promise to or promise not to pardon Trump, if Trump then resigns.

All of that hinges on Trump either being willing to resign or sane enough to know he’s doomed and resign.

Anybody have a guess how any of that would go? All playing out in a presidential election year?

If Republicans do finally turn on Trump, I think it will happen shockingly quickly, and they’ll immediately turn to how best contain the damage, pick who they want to run in 2020 and either get that person into office to replace Trump or appoint a “caretaker” president who promises not to run in 2020.

The negotiations behind the scenes … it’s easy to imagine it being the ugliest time ever in American politics.


Nancy said the words “moving forward with an impeachment” at 5:04 pm, and the CNN on-screen clocked flipped over to 5:05 as she said “inquiry”

Teresa got it right Lamis, it was 5:04 PM

Teresa, Barbk,

Many thanks!

Hope everybody is watching Rachel right now…good solid stuff, factually.

Sep. 24, 5:04pm, Washington D.C.: Moon void of course at 29 Cancer, near the cusp of 12th house.

The moon was not VC at 5:04 PM today. It was about 7 degrees Leo.

My Llewellyn’s sez Moon goes VOC tomorrow.

In terms of the patriarchy crumbling, I find it wildly interesting that Placido Domingo, who’s been accused of me-too stuff from LA to NY, decided today that he would never sing at the Metropolitan Opera again… this after the Director of the Met (Peter Gelb) made a statement yesterday supporting him.

Greetings to all! Eliseo, I’m so happy you’re up here in the rain and overcast weather with us !

Transiting Lachesis is one of the 3 sisters in mythology who were referred to as the Fates. One of the sisters was the weaver of the thread (of life) another sister cut the thread ending the life. The 3rd sister, Lachesis, determined the length and the twists in that thread. Today transiting asteroid Lachesis was conjunct the US natal North Node at 6+ Leo.

I interpret this to mean that the US is being “judged” as to how it responds to this challenge; how it interprets its Constitution and its responsibility to it. Tonight Andrew Yang on Rachel’s show called this event today an “opportunity” and I agree.

Andrew’s Sun at 22+ Capricorn will be conjunct the Saturn-Pluto (+ Ceres) conjunction on January 12th. His birthday is January 13th.

I believe there are a lot of significant aspects in today’s Pelosi Announcement of Impeachment Investigation chart, but the most important (IMO) is that if we (as a government and a nation and a people) perform heroically and with integrity, and do it creatively (Leo North Node), we will likely exist long enough (Lachesis on the US North Node) to see a 2nd Pluto Return in about 245 years.

From Grace Astrology, yesterday:

TUESDAY — Moon enters rip roarin’ Leo at 5:19 AM ET, looking for a way to shine, shine, shine. Note the potential for an upset or clarifying revelation around 3:12 PM ET, as Moon makes its weekly clash with rebel Uranus. Information involving courts, publishing, travel, education and other Jupiter concerns flows easily, as Mercury harmonizes with the planet of expansion at 5:01 PM ET. Alert the media.
WEDNESDAY — Moon goes void at 12:14 PM ET for the entire business day. Stick to routine tasks and don’t freak out over perceived crises. So often those that arise during Moon voids evaporate once the Moon is back in gear. Meanwhile, Venus squares Saturn at 3:12 PM ET PM. Venus refers to women, money, aesthetics and social expression. Saturn refers to authority, patriarchy, cuts, ambition and controls. The square suggests we’ll see “women of steel” making news, along with cuts to budgets and cold shoulders.

silcominc & fierywoman – thank you for the correction – very sorry, my mistake! Yes, Moon was not void and was at exactly 7 Leo.

It doesn’t make me feel much better about the prospect of real impeachment though, I regret to say.

The announcement chart has a tight conjunction from Mercury at 17 Libra to Trump’s natal Jupiter at 17 LibraRx – nothing harmful in that. The chart also has Jupiter at 17 Sag. sextile to Trump’s Jupiter. These aspects seem way too beneficial to Trump (Jupiter usually being benefits).

In addition, there is a nice trine between the announcement’s Mercury at 17 Libra and Trump’s Uranus at 17 Gemini. And Trump’s Uranus opposes the announcement’s Jupiter at 17 Sag. The Jupiter is applying to exactness (therefore still getting stronger in the way of benefits).

To confuse (?) matters, Trump’s natal Neptune at 5 Libra51Rx is inconjunct (150) to the announcement’s Uranus at 5Taurus 53Rx. So yes, Uranus is hitting at Trump’s lies and is gaining as it is not yet exact, but an inconjunct can mean Uranus can’t connect.

Even the announcement’s Mars at 24Virgo01′ is sextile and past exactness to Trump’s Saturn at 23Cancer49′.

It seems the announcement won’t hit the mark. They could have picked a better time to make it for more effect. The chart is lacking teeth and nowhere near as hard on Trump as it should be.

There is an article on Politico that makes the point that all the technicalities of impeachment have not been addressed.

“….Until the full House votes to authorize an inquiry, nobody is conducting a formal inquiry.”


This is what’s to be afraid of:


The polls in the next few days will be critical. If Trump’s numbers go up instead of down, it’s going to be one heck of a mess for the country. Time will tell.

So glad you are home and all together. I hold your precious wife and you in my heart. Be kind to your body and your spirit; retain balance–work, play relax, sleep, study, each its own space.

A truly excellent article that summarizes how DT has trashed the Presidency. Sober reading indeed:


“And don’t let the bastards wear you down. Yes, their actions are awful, but they are driven by fear and it’s important not to let their terror infect your commitment to unity. Even though it is a difficult and treacherous journey, love always wins. Always.”


It’s interesting that the call for impeachment happens with Pluto square US Chiron. It’s also interesting that Andrew Yang’s Chiron is in the same place, 20d Aries. He calls it an opportunity, but impeachment will tear the country apart, and will probably hurt Andrew Yang’s campaign as well. He was one of two candidates Trump supporters would vote for.


He’s always itching for a fight, but he’s also more full of hot air than anything of substance. Loudmouth bullies are the biggest cowards.

We’ve already concluded that his followers will blindly trail him straight over the edge into the abyss. There’s no need to try to make sense of abject stupidity at this point, if ever.

This is about the soul of the country. If we can’t hold an executive accountable for even a fraction of what DJT has wrought, the United States is finished. If public opinion embraces him over our much talked about principles of democracy and justice, the Constitution might as well be toilet paper.

Chiro, the country is already torn apart. I choose to see US Chiron (and Yang’s natal Chiron) moving into its healing modality (first the wound, then understanding, then healing) at this juncture of the transformational experience (US Pluto Return).

Consider that his natal Klotho (the Fates sister who starts a new thread of life) is conjunct the US natal Pluto (transformation) at 27+ Capricorn, and his natal Orpheus (player of beautiful music that others follow) conjuncts the US natal Moon at 27+ Aquarius.

Giving birth is not fun for the child bearer or the child but only a new life can be considered an opportunity, and that’s what a Pluto Return provides for a country who experiences one.

If I can survive the birthing of a baby and follow it with great joy in the accomplishment, then the US people can survive the birthing of a new nation and be proud of it. It is indeed an opportunity.

The senate’s vote was stunning, unanimous on the whistleblower complaint to send to the judiciary cmte.

Moscow Mitch hasn’t gotten over being called thus, could it have triggered it? He actually allowed it to come forward and seems like it did bother him enough to begin to move legislation he used to block

Trumps disparaging comments re the US ambassador, Marie Yovanavitch, to Ukraine is interesting. I hope she spills everything she knows to the dems. Served in Bush (Armenia) and Obama (Ukraine) admins as ambassador, fired by Trump in May of this year, with no replacement – she was looking into corruption.
Trying to find out more about her.

Another Trump rebuke from the Republican-controlled Senate:

“The Senate just voted 54-41 to terminate the Trump National Emergency on the southern border and to terminate the diversion of military funds to pay for a wall.”

Eleven Republicans jumped ship to vote with the Dems, but they took a similar vote in March and Trump vetoed it. He’s expected to veto again.

Still, interesting that it even came up for a vote — and that it was today.


Just in case anyone wanted to read this article about Hunter Biden


reports are that Pelosi and trump spoke on the phone and he tried to ‘negotiate’ with her on the whistleblower report. If his language was in a similar vein to the comey shake down, I wouldn’t be surprised if it pissed her off enough to motivate her impeachment call.

Ja, thanks for posting the article on Hunter

On MSNBC last night, Lawrence O’Donnell said during an interview of Cory Booker that Mitch McConnell is maneuvering to give himself room to select another GOP Presidential candidate if needed. Booker responded that he didn’t play three-dimensional chess and he would not go there. Clearly, Romney is making noises to position himself as the alternative Republican nominee.

Sadly, I think Trump and Giuliani’s mudslinging on Ukraine will hurt Biden even if no corruption involving his son is ever shown. Some people will think there must be something there. Biden is weakening anyway in the polls and Warren has now taken the lead in Iowa, New Hampshire and California. I have long doubted that Biden would remain the front-runner.

So I think if Trump resigns, it will likely be Warren vs. Romney. In that contest, Romney would probably win because he is seen by many as moderate, competent and honest, while Warren would be depicted as too far left.

I still think whoever wins in 2020 will be a one-term President he or she will have a tough ride, mainly because a recession is coming. 2024 is an entirely different story. Warren or someone like her could win then for true and deep healing to happen.

Andre, I agree with your prognosis except it might not be Romney. It could be Kasich or Haley as they both seem ready to jump in as soon a Trump falls.

Andre & silcominc, good analysis. I agree with your thoughts.

For the love of all things good, no times 1000 to Kasich. He was a sick joke here in Ohio as governor. I know virtually anyone looks better than DJT, but Kasich, no. Please no!

BuckeyeShadow, I agree. Just saying it’s likely one of those three but I fear it will be a Romney Haley ticket and when the crash occurs, he will bail out Wall Street (again).

Whistleblower report has been declassified and to be released tomorrow, CNN reporting.

Seems like after an agonizingly slow slog, things are moving quickly.

I’m enjoying this discussion and I’ve always thought Haley would be rising and feared DJT would pick her as VP. I’m thinking Biden could rise in the polls and he and Warren would be a powerful ticket. It would bring moderates and progressives together and fine tune our policies like with healthcare to ease into single payer smoothly over years.
But then I also imagined Clinton and RBG welcoming the new woman Supreme Court Justice.
I trust my feelings more than my visions and although I feel wary, rightfully after Mueller, I feel that this is the right way to go, not necessarily the wise way, but the right way.

I do wonder if manafort’s past ukraine connections are interwoven into this recent story at all?
Im pleased to hear Schiff and others now referring more frequently as being ‘typical of mob behavior’
That needs to permeate the public consciousness.
Ive said from the get go, the only thing that makes sense about his behavior is organized crime.

did you see the bizarre trump rant?
poor guy from Ukraine looked like a deer in headlights not knowing what to say. after trump ranted about Hillary’s emails he said Pelosi was no longer speaker of the house!

Elizabeth Warren will be holding a town hall meeting here next Thursday that I signed up for, I hope I get in.

Vomiting and soiling himself daily.
Such the torturous mess.

Kiwi, just a comment about yours re. the ambassador – an ambassador is an official of the state – he or she is not supposed to spill any beans to political parties. It can happen, but it’s a no no.

Reading the Washington Post, there is an interesting little comment in this article on Pence (re. the disclosure of the conversation with the Ukrainian Pres.) – it will be interesting to follow what, if anything, comes of it. OMG, what a mess (most politics isn’t pretty to look at, but this is rather extraordinary).


…”Barr is not the only member of the administration who is in legal and career peril. Most importantly, it is essential to determine what Vice President Pence knew of Trump’s efforts, whether he advised against this kind of conduct and whether he was involved in the pressure campaign to find dirt on Biden. When we move into the realm of impeachment, it is obviously necessary to determine if the vice president, in case of removal or resignation, is fit to take over. Congress should move swiftly to subpoena him and obtain all documents relating to this travesty.”

Reading the New York Times, there is an article by Frank Bruni which is right on point about the dilemma that impeachment brings to Dems. He’s right that nobody knows what will happen if impeachment goes ahead. But one thing is certain, the debate in October is going to be one awfully pressured gig for the Dem candidates!

“…At a juncture when we so desperately need to rediscover common ground, we’d be widening the fault lines. Bringing the country together afterward would call for more than a talented politician; it would demand a miracle worker. None of the Democratic presidential candidates qualify.”



“None of the Democratic presidential candidates qualify.”

Conversely, do any Republican candidates qualify at this time?

We may be getting ahead of ourselves here but I wonder what the aspects are for Pence and Pelosi later this year and early next year as there is a real possibility that one of them will be President.

A separate, secret server to store all secret, treasonous calls? Lock him up!!

Hmmm…Romney/Haley vs. Bidden/Warren? That would be an exciting match up. My husband & I find ourselves liking Yang more & more. Not a realistic prospect necessarily but he has great qualities.

Sounds like this could be the mother of all cover ups + his other obstructions & money laundering will now be taken seriously. Lock him up!


Hopefully this vortex of corruption nails and takes down Pence, too. I think Bob posted that he doesn’t look to fare well in all of this, either. I haven’t looked at his chart recently enough to remember.

The S is HTF for DJT though for sure. The more he struggles, the worse it will be for him, and there’s little reason to believe that he is suddenly going to learn the value of restraint in the face of a massive self-inflicted crisis.

He who sows the wind shall reap the whirlwind.

Pelosi as President, even if only by line of succession, would be a fitting karmic comeuppance for the misogynistic GOP, which was so terrified by the prospect of HRC becoming POTUS and breaking through the glass ceiling.

It’s like we are reliving Watergate!

From CNN:

The discussions, including a Thursday afternoon meeting at the White House, reflect the growing recognition among Trump’s allies and advisers that he is without a clear strategy for managing the crisis, which exploded in stunning fashion this week.


At this time transiting asteroid Sphinx (symbol of secrets) is at 8+ Gemini and conjuncts the US natal Uranus (breakthrough) at 8+ Gemini (symbol of duality and communication).

The cycle between Neptune (nebulous) and Pluto (unbridled power) also began at 8+ Gemini conjunct the US Uranus and that means transiting Sphinx, right now, conjuncts the Neptune-Pluto cycle too.

At that time of the Neptune-Pluto conjunction, transiting Uranus was at 27+ Libra, trine (supportive) the US natal Moon at 27+ Aquarius but also square (challenging) US natal Pluto at 27+ Capricorn.

This cycle between the transiting Neptune and Pluto then suggests to me that it represents a potential breakthrough (conjunct US Uranus) for the US and that it supports the US People/Masses (trine the US Moon) while it challenges the US power base (square US Pluto).

Right now transiting Neptune and transiting Pluto are within a 4 degree orb of a perfect sextile (60 degrees apart) that symbolizes cooperation.

By July 4, 2020, aka US Solar Return, it will be down to a 3 degree orb sextile. Trans. Pluto, by then, will be conjunct transiting Jupiter as well as transiting Pallas (the planner) and all 4 planets – including Neptune – will be retrograde (reviewing).

Therefore, trans. Sphinx (secrets), now conjunct US Uranus in Gemini (all kinds of communication) and as well the Neptune-Pluto cycle, is telling us a “secret” that will be revealed possibly in 2020 after the US Solar Return.

The Solar Return chart is a blueprint of the upcoming year represented by the planet positions at the time the transiting Sun exactly conjuncts the (US) natal Sun. Having trans. Pluto in Capricorn conjoined by trans. Jupiter (understanding) and trans. Pallas (strategy), while all 3 oppose the US natal Mercury in Cancer, suggests to me a kind of balancing act between the power of transformation (good and bad) and the ability to communicate it internally.

Transiting Jupiter (conjunct trans. Pluto) in the 2020 US Solar Return indicates an increase of power or a networking or possible foreign involvement (or all 3) opposing US communication (which includes the voting process).

Transiting Pallas (conjunct trans Pluto and Jupiter) suggests this will be a planned opposition to US natal Mercury (symbolizing all forms of communicating and thinking).

Today’s secrets (trans. Sphinx conjunct US Uranus and the Neptune-Pluto cycle) are the beginning of the unraveling of the conundrum (as the Neptune-Pluto sextile is permitting) shown by the chart for the Neptune-Pluto conjunction – which took place conjunct the US natal Uranus in 1891.

It this gets through, and if there is interest, I can delve further.

Something that I think hasn’t received the proper attention from the Whistleblower complaint:

“Based on my understanding, there were approximately a dozen White House officials who listened to the call—a mixture of policy officials and duty officers in the White House Situation Room, as is customary.”

A dozen! That’s a dozen witnesses. A dozen subpoenas to come. A dozen facing criminal charges. A dozen people likely to be begging for immunity in exchange for spilling everything.

This is going to move fast.


Yes,its like Watergate on meth and steroids.


A secret server! Lock him up indeed – lock them all up!

Prof. Bertonasco;

Re: Mike Pence, also a Gemini like Trump, has a Sun at 16+ Gemini which is now caught in the cross hairs of a T-square with transiting Neptune (16+ Pisces retrograde) and transiting Jupiter at 17+ Sagittarius. His natal Mercury at 21+ Gemini is exactly conjunct Trump’s natal Sun. Frankly, I think he will go down with Trump.

His natal Neptune at 4+ Scorpio is being opposed by transiting Uranus, now retrograde at 5+ Taurus. Transiting Uranus also squares his natal Mars at 4 degrees of Leo. This T-square puts him in between a rock and a hard place, and my feeling is that he goes down in flames with Trump.

However, there is the possibility he will become a hero in that his Mars is so close to the US natal chart’s North Node at 5+ Leo, and transiting Uranus in Taurus trines his natal Saturn at 5+ Capricorn.

Also, his natal Black Moon Lilith (known for revenge and even backstabbing) is at 22+ Taurus, the same degree as where the present Jupiter-Saturn cycle (with its square from Uranus) began, and this BML will be trine the Saturn-Pluto cycle start degree coming in January. It is not impossible he could be a sit-in President for a few months in 2020.

I hope you are right, Barbk.

More on Pence.


With this secret server of his, they should never talk abt Hillary’s emails again.

Seems like Nancy was right on abt the country going through a painful period.

Looks like Pelosi might be the first woman president b/c there is talk that Pence also has dirty hands.



I read a little more closely about the “secret server”. It’s actually a server for classified documents. In this case, Trump’s lawyers asked for the transcript of the phone call with the Ukraine president to be stored there, which was an inappropriate use of that server as this was not national security related. So, that was one major objection the whistle blower heard from others, among all the others, plus there is the fact that other things of this nature might be stored on this server. I don’t know how we’d find out about that. In fact, they could have already cleaned it (“acid cleaned it” like Hillary did?), possible after transferring it elsewhere.


This includes a description of the classified server.

How many yelled at their media device at sometime this morning?

Have you been able to cool down yet?

Suggested from the movie “Six Days, SEVEN NGHTS” –
something like, ‘We’ve been going through a terry bull ordeal. It’s like after a funeral; everybody has sex.’

Romney-Haley now appears to be the winning ticket for 2020. Warren is emerging as the likely Democratic nominee.

I agree with barbk that Pence will go down with Trump. It seems that Trump wants to take Pence down with him, perhaps because Pence is refusing to pardon him. It is now time for them to discuss this.

Pelosi is third in line and could be the next President for one year but I doubt she would herself seek the nomination. She is the only one who could try to unify the nation after the trauma of Trump.

HuffPost headline: “Man Obsessed With Hillary Clinton’s Private Server Hid Docs On A Secret System”


Andre, Why do you say Warren is emerging as the likely nominee?

Here is a great point from the nyt’s;

Nancy Pelosi Is Sending a Message

Having the controversy over Mr. Trump’s dealings with Ukraine serve as the trigger for the formal inquiry sends a specific warning to foreign governments: America does not welcome, nor will it tolerate, the meddling of other nations in its elections. This is an especially crucial point to make in light of Mr. Trump’s seeming refusal to confront Russia about its interference in 2016 and his public comment in June that he’d be open to foreign assistance in 2020. House leadership is making clear that it will take extreme action to prevent another assault on the democratic process.


From a post of mine on DU (January 2019) – edited to update:

Saturn will station in opposition to the US Sun in September 2019. During that September time he will finally admit that he has lost and will begin looking for a deal which he will probably finalize in the 3 days before Thanksgiving. That deal will see his leaving office in January 2020.

Adding: Could the Dems make a deal in order to get as many Republicans out as soon as possible as early as possible during the height of campaign season and/or to hurt their chances of re-election in 2020?

This script wasn’t written for those fans of whodunits that like a challenge, oh no, this was meant to reach the lowest common denominator among us. From the very beginning Trump was seen as a joke when he became part of the group of Republicans running to be the candidate of that party to be the next US President. It was ludicrous. No way the Pubs would pick him to represent their party, he was a joke.

And yet they did on July 19, 2016, when the Moon was full in Capricorn and conjunct the US natal Pluto (27+ Capricorn), and transiting Mars (25+ Scorpio), the symbol of action, was trine trans. Chiron (25+ Pisces), the symbol for a wound that leads to healing, and they both were trine US Mercury (24+ Cancer), symbol of US thinking and communicating + Trump’s natal Venus (25+ Cancer) and his natal Saturn (23+ Cancer).

This script wasn’t written for minds who like to figure out a mystery before the end of the story; it was written for young and impressionable children (of any age) and it was meant to be remembered by them for several generations into the future, so they would tell their children and their grandchildren in hopes of preventing it from ever happening again.

Any grown up can figure out how the script of this farce will end, but all us youngsters will need to watch and listen to the whole story up to its ending, and maybe more than once . . . .

Once upon a time there was a young country that fell into the hands of greedy people and the country lost its way. The naive people in that country were fearful and became vulnerable to the greedy people, and so it goes. The end.

Bob, if you are correct that will probably be the best Thanksgiving ever.

BarbK, so we’ll said. I just hope in this age of fleeting attention spans that the story won’t get lost or forgotten.

Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be,
Donald, William, Rudy and Mike in prison Let it be!


Very glad to know you arrived and are safe. All the best to you!

Thank You, Will, & All of you who’ve expressed so much good will & concern. Thank You All for your spells, prayers and good, positive thoughts and ideations on my behalf. I arrived a week ago after an arduous and rigorous drive. I don’t have my computer system up and running yet, only my phone with its tiny screen. I’ll post longer and more substantive comments after the computer set up.

Tonight, late I watched tv for the first time in months, i.e. the last part of Rachel’s show and all of Lawrence O’Donnell. Ordinarily, I would assert “We have too many Kooks in our legislative kitchens!” But Rachel & Lawrence report NO R’s spoke up today in Congress to defend Mr. T in his Ukraine phone conversation. Furthermore, they report Fox News is preparing for the end of the Trump presidency.

It appears the Cooks are preparing the kitchen well. It’s looking more and more like the presidentIal goose will not escape his Thanksgiving fate.

I believe you have likely nailed the process, astrologically.

Let us hope there will be little or no violent reaction by T supporting ignorrati to his roasting. We don’t need civil war.

Thank You, Will, & All of you who’ve expressed so much good will & concern. Thank You All for your spells, prayers and good, positive thoughts and ideations on my behalf. I arrived a week ago after an arduous and rigorous drive. I don’t have my computer system up and running yet, only my phone with its tiny screen. I’ll post longer and more substantive comments after the computer set up.

Tonight, late I watched tv for the first time in months, i.e. the last part of Rachel’s show and all of Lawrence O’Donnell. Ordinarily, I would assert “We have too many Kooks in our legislative kitchens!” But Rachel & Lawrence report NO R’s spoke up today in Congress to defend Mr. T in his Ukraine phone conversation. Furthermore, they report Fox News is preparing for the end of the Trump presidency.

It appears the Cooks are preparing the kitchen well. It’s looking more and more like the presidentIal goose will not escape his Thanksgiving fate.

I believe you have likely nailed the process, astrologically.

Let us hope there will be little or no violent reaction by T supporting ignorrati to his roasting. We don’t need civil war.

A reminder that the chart for tomorrow’s New Moon in Libra (that squares US natal Jupiter in Cancer) has a conjunction of Vesta (what is invested in) conjunct Sedna (under water) at 27+ Taurus, which is the degree where the New York Stock Exchange natal Sun is as well.

This will be followed by the Full Moon in 2 weeks that conjuncts the US natal Chiron – both at 20+ Aries, as the trans. Sun conjuncts US natal Juno (partner, defense of disenfranchised) at 20+ Libra, and trans. Pluto (20+ Capricorn) is T-square them all.

Then in both the New and Full Moon charts there is trans. Saturn + trans. South Node opposite US Sun + trans. North Node and all are square US natal Saturn + Trump’s natal Chiron and Juno in Libra.

Also in that Full Moon chart (Oct. 13), trans. Uranus in Taurus opposes trans. Venus (ruler of Taurus) forming a grand cross with the US natal chart’s north and south nodes.

All the above suggest (to me) a crisis of some kind regarding financial investments over the next month for the US. Fortunately the transiting North Node (path forward) is conjunct the US natal Sun.

No kidding!

“I do think the attorney general has gone rogue,” Ms. Pelosi said on CNN. “He has for a long time now. And since he was mentioned, in all of this, it’s curious that he would be making decisions about how the complaint would be handled.”


Pence advised Trump against releasing partial transcript of Ukraine call: report


Revisiting my call for tRump to submit on November 17th I find that there a spate of dates before and after then that equal or exceed that date in negativity for him so I withdraw my speculation that it is when he gives in.

“there is a spate”

Happy Friday, Starlighters!


Bob you were spot on the 9/18, 9/17 prediction that something BAAD would happen to Cheat-0

If it comes sooner, I’m the happiest girl in the ol’ USA.

when Cheat=0 leaves, what happens to the swamp critters?

I’d sure like it drained right after. Steven Miller and Wm. Barr should begin the march of frog walking the plank. Ivanka and her tranny looking hubby(sorry).

Next We’ll hear from him in the courts and out of sights

Lift all the excec orders, and give back the money for the wall,


Never happier to see a prediction come true. Heard either last night or this mornings that Dems could see holding a vote on sending articles of impeachment to the Senate by Thanksgiving. Bravo.


Sec. of State Pompeo has been subpoenaed by three house committees about US dealings with the Ukraine. They’re moving fast.

I’m really hoping they call Yovanovitch, her testimony will be very interesting.

Democrats need to get tough. Any conduct like lewandowsky’s going forward should be met with an immediate threat of contempt and incarceration. The game-playing must end. Lawyers and lawsuits need to be ready.

Ja, pleased to report I just read in WashPost that dems have scheduled deposition from Yovanovitch for next tuesday

heres the link to the latest from wapo, re Ukraine related investigations


Ja, at least four polls have put Warren in first place in the last three days: one national and one each in Iowa, New Hampshire and California. Plus, Biden’s lead is slipping among black voters in South Carolina. The trend is very clear.

Andre, J would wager that no trend is very clear in American politics. We’ve got a long way to go before election day.

Just listened to a YouTube tarot reader (who does not dabble in politics) do a tarot reading for Leos for October.

Donald Trump’s rising sign is 29 degrees Leo.
The Ukraine scandal fits this reading perfectly.

I’ve picked out some of the reader’s words. The words in parenthesis are mine.

Disconcerting situation for last 3-4 months (Trump withholds aid to Ukraine on Jul 18. Spoke with Ukraine president on July 25, the day after Mueller testifies before Congress).

Major reality check. Major reevaluation of life.

Important month. Dealing with some sort of betrayal (whistleblower). Righting of the skills. Last ten days of Sept have energy associated with it. Energy is dicey. Heavy energy “as I am filming this” (which was the day the acting DNI testified before Congress about Trump’s call with the president of Ukraine and the actual whistleblower complaint was released).

This is a defeat. You are on the losing end. You are walking away. Cutting your losses because of the Judgement card. Justice card is over the whole reading. You will have to find your own justice and your own justice is you walking away.

A big big shift in October. Leaving a work place that is like a “nest of vipers”. Law. Justice. Waiting for someone to put things right. You’re waiting in vain.

Queen of Swords upside down – somebody who has a sharp tongue, critical (and I am sure Donald Trump would consider this to be Nancy Pelosi). Thorn of truth.

Made an unfortunate investment. It was a spiritual lesson. Time to right the scales. Some sort of legal thing that is coming (impeachment). You don’t want to make the decision. The outcome – ultimate reality check – cannot waste anymore time. Unfortunate reality of the defeat – the betrayal – must be faced. It is time to see it.


The official betting odds are Warren 49.6%, Biden 19.


The middle graph — a composite of a bunch of polls — shows it clearly: Elizabeth Warren is the only candidate showing a slow, steady rise in support over time.


Seems like the floodgates of scandal have opened around… whowuddaguessedit, coverups.

Because, of course, it’s never the crime itself that takes the gangsters down, but rather the conspiracy to cover it up that ultimately gets them nailed.

Also see, RMN.

The question is increasingly one of when, not if, MF45 leaves office before the end of his term.

The tweetcannon of BS that he has blasted at the country and its institutions at breakneck speed has, at last, finally backed up on him.

The End of Trump’s Presidency? Psychic Astrology Reading by Evon Davis

Video: 19 min 47 sec


@SpeakerPelosi is an icon.


“Lady Hale, President of the UK Supreme Court, ruled that PM Boris Johnson’s suspension of Parliament was unlawful, thank you very much, goodbye. Lady Hale (Venus) announced the court decision dressed in black (Saturn-Pluto in Capricorn), adorned with a fetching spider (Mercury) silver (Venus) brooch. She was the perfect embodiment of current planetary patterns.” The Elisabeth Grace Daily Forecast


Fe – The twitter link for Pachibel’s Cannon on rubber chicken was hilarious. Thank you for sharing. We need some reminders that not everything in life is serious.

Jon Meachem may have clarified the meaning of transiting asteroid Sphinx (secrets) is now conjunct US natal Uranus (breakthroughs) in Gemini (communication) when he said (on MSNBC) this morning, something to the effect that the whistleblower has opened the door to understanding the mystery as to why 40% of American voters have suspended reason and Trump works for Russia. Perhaps other whistleblowers will now come forward with such revelations.

Marjorie Orr has been kept busy.

“Pompeo’s relationship chart with Giuliani is a volcanic cauldron of dislike with a composite Saturn opposition Neptune Mars square Uranus which tr Pluto will be hammering at from late January 2020 for two years. Even before then mid this November there’ll be a decided dip between them for four weeks with tr Neptune squares the composite Jupiter. That’s the same phase when Trump’s relationship chart with Giuliani is also moving through swampy times with tr Neptune square the composite Sun.”


This is the first time I’ve read Maureen Dowd since she wrote so disparagingly of Obama, it’s a good piece on Nancy Pelosi.

“The speaker would have preferred to send Trump packing at the ballot box. But since he keeps contaminating the ballot box, asking foreign countries to meddle in our elections to help him win, what choice did she have?

The man who always claims the system is rigged against him keeps trying to rig the system — proving Pelosi’s point that Trump projects.”


Uranus, the one that’s in transit and also the US natal Uranus are in play right now, meaning they are actively generating (symbolically) unexpected events in the US. This may be connected with the 2012 Winter Solstice that many considered to be the end of the Mayan long count calendar, and the start of an epic period of world history.

At the time of that Solstice on December 21, 2012, transiting Saturn (8+ Scorpio) was sextile transiting Pluto (8+ Capricorn) and now these two are about to start their own new cycle in January.

That December 21, 2012, sextile between Saturn and Pluto formed a Yod to transiting Jupiter at 8+ Gemini, the same degree as the US natal Uranus.

This 2012 Solstice chart Jupiter was also conjunct the conjunction degree between Neptune and Pluto that started their cycle 128 years ago in 1891.

This means that transiting asteroid Sphinx, now at 8+ Gemini, not only is conjunct the US natal Uranus, it is also activating that 2012 Solstice chart’s Jupiter (at the apex point [which must adjust] of a Yod with the then trans. Saturn & Pluto), and as well, it is activating the long cycle between transiting Neptune and Pluto, who are now within an orb of an active sextile (harmonious) themselves.

Jupiter symbolizes understanding in addition to other things such as foreign relations and networking and judicial systems.

Being at the apex of a Yod with Saturn and Pluto in the 2012 Winter Solstice . .

. . (and perhaps as well the endpoint of a long cycle – that of the Mayan long count calendar, while those same 2 transiting planets – Saturn and Pluto – are now about to start a NEW cycle in 2020), . .

. . this same 2012 Jupiter (that was conjunct US Uranus and the start point of the long Neptune-Pluto cycle) has been speaking to us of UNDERSTANDING revolutionary and epic-length cycles of change. This goes way way back before Donald Trump’s reign of terror.

Knowing this, little asteroid Sphinx, named for a great big statue in Egypt (a country linked to Saudi Arabia), a statue which has the body of a lion and a head of a man, this little asteroid Sphinx is now activating some very ancient and potent energy which the US is now supposed to express through it’s people and it’s government. Where will it all lead I wonder and where will it all end?


You’re welcome. I think we all need to be serenaded by a rubber chicken this week.


Ditz McGeee – brilliant!

Trump tries to change the narrative – my question is what will he do to change this narrative? Send missiles into Iran? I am beginning to be worried.

I’ve smiled more in the last few days. Greatly enjoyed the news. but I agree with Will, particularly on 2 things:

“Yes,its like Watergate on meth and steroids.”

“would wager that no trend is very clear in American politics. We’ve got a long way to go before election day.”

Watching this play out with the asteroids and the Pluto Saturn conjunction coming.

Also enjoyed Barb’s comments about the 2012 Solstice chart with Saturn/Pluto inconjunct Jupiter, it all has a tying in sort of feel, as we approach the US Pluto return, a rebirth is in order. And the Sphinx is pretty interesting.


Great to see you posting again!

Thanks Gypsi, there IS something very satisfying about the “tying in sort of feel” that astrology can provide, I agree. It encourages us to believe that there is purpose in the madness; that perhaps we aren’t so much in free fall as we are transitioning from here to there.

Uranus leaves little time to contemplate change though, it’s more of a git-er-done-and-pick-up-the-pieces-afterword approach that is so disconcerting!

John Kelly reportedly used to mute the line during calls with world leaders to urge Trump not to discuss sensitive topics


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