8th Aug, 2019

Anatomy of a Crisis

It is time to drill down in more detail on the treacherous aggression and building national grief that I have long predicted for this summer. Although our trade war with China, as well as the violent incidents involving Iran in the Strait of Hormuz, are both dangerously escalating, it is really the racial/political tensions within the US that are reaching a catastrophic boiling point and are at center stage.

Transiting Pluto and transiting Uranus were simultaneously in stressful aspects to US Mars from late June through August 5. This combination intensified aggression, anger, and violence. During this period, the inflammatory racist rhetoric emanating from the White House increased exponentially. The attacks by Racist in Chief Trump against the four freshman democratic women of color, the “send her back” tweets and chants, and the racist attacks against Elijah Cummings, Baltimore, and, ultimately, several other US cities with large minority populations, all happened during this time.

On August 3 and August 4, transiting Mars (21Leo) triggered the already combustible combination of US Mars (21 Gemini), transiting Pluto (21 Capricorn) and transiting Uranus (6 Taurus, semisquare to US Mars).  This two-day configuration coincided with the brutal mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton, the former being the most lethal attack on US Hispanics in modern history.  In response, the nation has been rocked with grief and is attempting to reckon with what we have become.

From July 29 through October 22, the US has been and will continue to be under very strong Saturn aspects (transiting Saturn square natal Saturn, 14Libra48, and progressed Moon square natal Saturn) which imply a period of grief, mourning, and deep sorrow, as well as an attempt to strengthen national resolve and face long-simmering problems.  The unhindered spread of a White Supremacy movement essentially aligned with the modern Republican Party, the unrestrained mushrooming of assault weapons ownership, and the vicious racist rhetoric emanating from the White House are now seen in their synergistic grotesquery, pinpointed, finally, with great clarity as the toxic stew out of which mass shootings are erupting to convulse the nation.

Under Saturn, the recent episodes of gun violence and their sorrowful aftermath have created a sense of national grief and shame and an awareness of how difficult it will be to transform the current reality. Unfortunately, naming the monster in the bright light of day is only an important first step. The next is to push harder on the compliant, complicit enablers in the Republican Party who passively support this depravity in our midst, often for their own selfish political aims. Due to Republican intransigence and Despicable Donnie’s delusional racist grievances, it may well take more painful episodes before any real change takes place, if in fact anything is possible before a change in leadership occurs.

In the meantime, the Uranus semisquare to US Mars builds in energy until September 5, and will be significantly triggered roughly between August 26 and August 29, when first Venus and then Mars and the Sun will sextile transiting Uranus. Some kind of violence is likely during that period, whether from extreme weather or another mass shooting or some other event is unclear. But what is clear is that the US progressed Moon will be waxing in square to US Saturn from August 15 to September 15, so there will be some kind of loss or sorrow that impacts Americans and becomes another national story of sorrow.

A further potentially dangerous time will come during September 18 to 20. During this period, transiting Mars will be trine transiting Pluto (no longer exactly quincunx US Mars but still close), transiting Mars will be semisquare to transiting Uranus, and then transiting Mars will be square to US Mars.  Neither this combination nor the above mentioned aspects on August 26 to August 29, are likely to be as potent as what we saw unleashed in El Paso and Dayton. But it does seem that something could be stirred up at these times.

It should also be noted that transiting Saturn will move direct and once again waxing toward US Saturn from September 19 to October 22, suggesting a re-intensifying of feelings of national grief and loss. Add to this that the transiting Node will be opposite transiting Saturn September 17 to September 27, and you have a 10-day period of likely significant national stress and upset. With the above mentioned Mars aspects from September 18 to 20 active during this strong activation of Saturn, this seems an important time to watch for trouble.

And finally, the last transit of Pluto quincunx US Mars will be active from October 2 through November 29. The first part of this, through October 22, includes the Saturn transit square to US Saturn. So again, we see the combination of violence and sorrow in the US from October 2 through October 22, whether due to a short-term confrontation in the Sea of Hormuz or a domestic terrorism event or a wild weather phenomenon or even an explosive debacle in our tariff war and a plummeting Market.

These are clearly dangerous times, in many cases made worse (white supremacism) or even manufactured (tariffs, Iran escalation) by the Thin Skinned Rageoholic in the Oval Office. In my humble opinion, he can’t be gone soon enough.

Responses

Thank you Starlight for your always insightful, thoughtful and informative analysis, helping us to navigate these turbulent yet hopeful times.

“Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is getting hit by members of his own party in a new TV ad airing Thursday in Washington D.C., and in his home state.

The spot urges voters to call McConnell and demand a vote on the election security bills he blocked last week. It also features a supercut of President Donald Trump dismissing the well-documented threat of election interference from Russia.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/republican-ad-trump-mcconnell_n_5d4bc99ee4b09e7297412c8d?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004 via @HuffPost

Starlight.

” The unhindered spread of a White Supremacy movement essentially aligned with the modern Republican Party, the unrestrained mushrooming of assault weapons ownership, and the vicious racist rhetoric emanating from the White House, are now seen in their synergistic grotesquery, pinpointed, finally, with great clarity as the toxic stew out of which mass shootings are erupting to convulse the nation.”

Voila! Merci beaucoup for your stirring and thoughtful analysis.

These Are Dangerous Days
Sinead O’Connor:

https://youtu.be/n14lwdpYkAA

Barb’s last post, probably posted at the same time Nancy was posting her new article (which I will soon eagerly read):

I’ve commented on the fact that the US progressed Chiron opposes the US progressed Mars retrograde, but not the fact that the US progressed Black Moon Lilith (BML) conjuncts the US prog. Mars. That’s because I didn’t know it. She’s not a symbol I gravitate to right away, however at this time in US history I believe BML in the US progressed chart plays a vital role.

If a progressed chart sheds light on an individual’s development, and a specific year or period seems fraught with difficulty for that individual, the progressed birth chart can often explain why. I believe BML’s conjunction to Mars and opposite Chiron in the US progressed birth chart sheds a lot of light on our country’s present situation.

Development or growth depends on timing if it is to be successful. Too soon or too late can result in failure of such development or growth. Potty training a child is a good example of this. The US then is ripe for certain growth that it wasn’t ready for 20 years ago, and 20 years from now would be too late.

I think having US progressed Venus (values) and Pluto (death/re-birth) in square indicates the US is ready to be potty trained, as does the US prog. Jupiter stationing to go direct while forming a T-square to the opposite Chiron vs. Mars-BML in the US progressed chart, a process that will take at least a decade. It’s now or never as they say.

It is also the time of the revolutionary Pluto Return in the US natal birth chart, something one has to survive almost 250 years to experience. Thus the country of the United States of America is apparently old enough to deal with immature habits that must be abandoned if it is to make it to 300 years of age.

Because BML is associated with furious rage and a sense of revenge, and she is conjunct Mars, associated with violence, and they oppose Chiron who teaches and who symbolizes wounding as well as healing; and because Jupiter, symbol of understanding, higher learning, foreign things, networking such as the www, and seeing the Big Picture, stands between them in a T-square, . . .

. . we here at Nancy’s Blog (Starlight News) are part of the potty training effort; the growing up of these United States. US progressed Mars conjuncts US Constitution Signing chart’s Neptune and this relates to the vagaries of the 2nd amendment re: the right to bear arms.

US prog Mars conjunct US prog. BML makes it really nasty re: the right to bear arms.

US prog. Mars conjuncts Trump’s Jupiter making him the flag bearer of not changing the 2nd amendment.

US prog Mars conjunct Putin’s Saturn makes Putin the man behind Trump.

US prog. Mars opposite US prog. Chiron means there will be wounding until changes are made in the Constitution 2nd amendment.

US prog. Jupiter T-square US Prog. Chiron vs. Mars+ BML represents the law and transiting Neptune will trine US prog. Jupiter this November, again, all month, as it stations direct, possibly providing some sleight of hand magic re: the laws for selling guns.

We live in history-making times. Rejoice in that and be part of it.

I forgot to include a repeat of my prediction for Trump during this Saturn station. Saturn is in sesquiquadrate to his Ascendant (29Leo55), and he is being skewered for his racism, white supremacy, and his inability to console during a crisis. Also, the tariffs are starting to cause havoc. So overall, a bad time for him with lowering polls and lots of criticism that he doesn’t handle well. 7/28 to 10/23.

Good things come in small doses! McConnell and Trump campaign pull their ad accounts from Twitter.

“Win-win” says America.

Details:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-campaign-halts-twitter-spending-191243746.html

starlight,

He’s also having his ass handed to him by La Pierre who warns that his proposed “background checks” will not be popular with NRA members.

He’s trapped like a terrified rat.

Oh Schadenfreude, I long to hear you!

Will,
LaPierre is wrong. Over 70% of NRA members are FOR universal background checks. The numbers are even higher among non-NRA gun owners in all other categories.

Also, many NRA members are leaving the org for other organizations. The feeling is the NRA doesn’t represent gun owners. It only represents the gun manufacturers.

If you guys haven’t yet read Tommy Lee, of Motley Crue’s tweet, about what Democrats are going to do to Trumpsters when they take power again, it’s a riot, you’ll love it (especially you, Will).

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212361075

What a perfect storm astrologically we had Saturday and Sunday (Aug. 3-4). Thanking you Nancy for noting all the pressure of US Mars (and Trump’s Sun) sextile transiting Mars, both quincunx transiting Pluto. Something had to give, for sure.

And thank you Sharon for re-posting my comment. That really was thoughtful of you.

And thanks will, for making me snicker . .Oh Schadenfruede!

We must brace ourselves for the next 3 months it appears. Thanks again for the heads-up Nancy.

Eliseo,

La Pierre hardly strikes me as being honest or moral. Ergo, why would it surprise us that he would use misleading threats toward 45 or anyone else. The guy looks and behaves like satan incarnate.

Per Jerry Nadler tonight, impeachment proceedings are on, and hearings are likely to begin around October, so that corresponds with Trump feeling the Saturnian check on his power and growing public criticism, which as starlight has pointed out he doesn’t respond well to. He will no doubt ramp up his hatefulness because that’s what he does, always doubles down. As if we need more. 🙁

Will,
LOL!
I’m definitely NOT an NRA member, but I personally know many who are. Many of them are also convinced WLP is Satan incarnate.

Not terribly long ago a “civil war” occurred within the NRA. Unfortunately, the crooked
greedheads, i.e. WLP & friends won. Many members want the org to express empathy and sympathy to the victims of mass shootings, and want reasonable compromise. It’s not as monolithic as the “leaders” try to make it appear. The NRA is also losing members as they gravitate to other gun organizations.

In Linda G’s reading yesterday, with Sterling, a psychic reader, as her guest (after she read the cards), and today, it seemed to come up that Trump will be offered that deal and be escorted out (or maybe he’ll just leave). More will come out about the trafficking, and money laundering, and some type of payoff by Wayne Le Pierre as head of the NRA, etc. Also, Bernie won’t be pres but he will be in the administration doing some good things (sec of labor?) and Warren won’t either but she will also work some magic to help this country. The person Sterling described as the next pres, he saw only from the rear and he was tall and grey or blonde, as written above, with a background in hotels, but also (and this might have been left out above) in industry. By the way, Yang surpassed Beto in Iowa and he also qualified for the fall debates. I like that guy – he’s very intelligent, experienced, and interesting. I also hope Inslee, Ryan, Bennet, Bullock and Hickenlooper get in. Klobuchar already has, as well as Harris, Warren, Biden, Sanders, Buttegieg. I’d like Castro to get in, too.

Sharon,
Marriane Williamson’s more holistic paradigm makes a lot of sense to me, but I don’t think Americans will be ready for that sort of thought until Pluto goes into Aquarius.

I like her and do find her approach very holistic and spiritually advanced. I would love to see her take a political leadership position after this. I love her assertive energy. I didn’t know anything about her and expected someone a little less assertive.

People are no longer afraid to say that the wanna-be emperor wears a swastika. They’re saying it openly, repeatedly, and in ways that impact Trump’s funders. The boycott of Equinox and Soul Cycle resulting from their owner’s huge fundraiser for Trump this weekend is just the start. It is now becoming unacceptable to support Trump and counterproductive in business terms. The next commercial target is Fox News. Fox Entertainment is no longer owned by Murdoch. The news is and it’s time for that organization to lose any major advertiser that is still on board.

The growth pains of a new era are painful and disruptive but there’s no reason to deny the inevitible – it’s bedtime in Bedlam.

Starlight,

You are on-fire with accurate and comprehensive predictions – truly inspiring!

Eliseo… I didn’t an email. It must have hit the bit bucket somewhere.

Try this one: sandylightfoot(at)twc(dot)com

slightkc,
Thanks!
I emailed you at the sandylightfoot(at)twc(dot)com address.

latest from Raye Robertson on end of nuclear treaty
https://www.diaryofamundaneastrologer.net/2019/08/unleashing-furies-astrology-of-ending.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/09/trump-el-paso-melania-orphan-baby-thumbs-up

Grotesque photo.

Just sent this to my Congressman, Jamie Raskin:

In your impeachment inquiry, please include “crimes against humanity” at the border due to treatment of those seeking asylum and even those who are actually illegally here. Also, please include “incitement to violence” and “complicity in hate crimes” due to hate speech that unleashes hate crimes. I am not sure of the legal jargon necessary but these things should be part of the impeachment inquiry. I have really appreciated you going on TV to explain that there are far more crimes than obstruction of justice regarding Russian interference. Unfortunately, as heinous as his dealings and coverup regarding Russia have been, America has a short attention span. The current criminal behavior is ongoing and extreme and needs to be named.

I have wondered for months if that could be brought Nancy. Brava for beginning a spark for me.

I believe the Republican Party history in the last century gives good reason to think the Sibly and Republican Party charts are correct or nearly so. See how they interact with each other when shown together. The GOP has heaped much more trouble on the nation by far than Dems.

Some of the main problems birthed by the GOP:

Republican president Warren G. Harding,Teapot Dome scandal; Republican president Herbert Hoover, the Great Depression; Republican president Richard Nixon’s abuse of power – Watergate; 1980 election – Iran hostage’s held until after Reagan sworn in – then released immediately without negotiations; 2000 election – Presidency given to Republicans by Supreme Court loaded with Republican appointees (4 by Reagan, 2 by H.W. Bush, and 1 by Ford); George W. Bush, started 2 wars in less than 3 years (17 months – Afghanistan on October 7, 2001, and the Iraq War March 19, 2003); still under Bush in 2008 economic crash, 2016 election of tRump with probable collusion with Russia.
Sibly with GOP
https://i.imgur.com/6cU5mY7.gif
GOP with Sibly
https://i.imgur.com/1cJlWMI.gif

“THIS is one of the most underreported and important election-security stories as we head into 2020.

GA, SC, NJ, DE, & counties in PA, WI, OH, TX, KY, IN, KS, CA, & NY, are rejecting unhackable HAND marked paper ballots in favor of hackable MACHINE marked printouts from machines supplied by vendors who sweeten the pot w/ gifts to lawmakers & officials. #HandMarkedPaperBallots”

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1157042129643769856

Write on, Starlight! Write on!

Perhaps the US PROGRESSED Mars is symbolizing white supremacists, pure and simple.

Perhaps there is nothing positive at all about the US progressed Mars, other than it has gone full throttle as blatant White Supremacy by attaching itself to Donald Trump’s Jupiter.

Perhaps the US progressed Mars is the most positive thing in the US astrology because it is opening our group consciousness – even that of the least conscious US citizen alive – that we cannot escape this fact about our country: we (as a nation) are racist to the bone.

Perhaps, only by rubbing our nose in it, can we root (the IC in a chart) out this flaw . . in our nativity (birth chart) and in our national character; through the comic strip caricature of a human being now posing as the US President.

Mars rules the IC of the US natal chart, the root, base, bottom, the most concealed, the most protected point in any chart, because Mars is the ruler of Aries and the IC in the US birth chart, the 4th house cusp, is at 1+ Aries.

Mars in the US natal chart is in the 7th house, the part of any chart which is so remote to the host that it is projected onto another, usually a spouse or a partner, or even an enemy. The US natal Mars at 21+ Gemini conjuncts Trump’s natal Sun at 22+ Gemini.

So the US progressed Mars and the natal US Mars both conjunct planets in Trump’s natal chart; Prog. Mars conjuncts Trump Jupiter and natal Mars conjuncts Trump Sun. How odd you might think.

On April 17, 2018, at 4:06 AM in Washington, DC, transiting Chiron (wounder, healer, teacher) entered the sign of Aries. By May 15th, at 11:16 AM, EDT – less than a month after Chiron entered Aries, transiting Uranus entered the sign of Taurus, and at that very moment transiting Chiron was conjunct the US natal chart IC. The Sun was at 24+ Taurus, conjunct Trump’s MC.

Earlier that morning there was a New Moon at 24+ Taurus conjunct the MC of Trump’s natal chart.

I won’t go into the details of those 3 charts, although they are interesting, but I do want to make us all aware how there is a divine process going on. The USA is a big part of it and we all are part of it. It’s not just Pluto demanding change it’s Uranus and his sidekick Chiron too. It’s Neptune too, but this is enough talk for now.

If we don’t increase our consciousness, we won’t be able to save our planet. America, specifically the US, is paramount in this plan, but only if this country cleans up its act.

For so long we-the-people have, at best, suspected there was corruption in our (US) government, but there was little stomach to deal with the problem. Now we must deal with the problem.

This is what US natal Mars and US progressed Mars are forcing us to do. It’s what Mars does; uses force. We must clean up our own act, then join other nations cleaning up the planet Earth.

From our very roots, where transiting Chiron is, we hate Trump and what he stands for. We are (as a whole) so mad st him we are willing to protest in the streets, write our congress people and get out and vote, even if we haven’t done so in years.

We protest on blogs and to our neighbors and with family members, but unless our government representatives and senators use the power in their hands (the US Constitution) to fix what Trump has put asunder we are doomed.

But that’s not the plan. Heroes will come forth when they know we-the-people will support them. This will be a turning point, not just for the US, but for Humanity; I feel it in my gut.

Well said, BarbK!

Jeffrey Epstein found dead in his cell. They said they were not going to let that man live. Knew way too much.

Ocasio-Cortez calls for “answers” after Epstein found dead in Manhattan jail cell

http://hill.cm/8s6YFih

Linda G should have an interesting take on this one (Epstein’s death). As much as it makes sense for someone to put a contract on him, he is also the kind of guy who would not tolerate prison, especially as a pedophile.

Regarding Epstein’s timely death, Soulprint Intuitive tarot reader (on YouTube) suggests the primary reason Epstein had an assisted suicide or murder was to keep Melania’s connection to Epstein a secret. Her connection took place when she was much younger.
I don’t know if it was before she came to the US or after. Note that Bill Barf immediately inserted himself into the investigation of Epstein’s death, presumably to control the storyline and outcome. I mean, seriously, how often does the nation’s AG get involved in a prison suicide/murder? Of course, this could all be nonsense, but maybe someone else has some relevant insights.

Sharon, “tall and gray or blond” . . Jay Inslee?

Or Tom Steyer

Suggest watching KimCarey’s last two Intuitiview videos. She predicted A suicide and also China under water and a large portion of it was on the news last night.

Or Bill Weld?
Blond, 6’3″, – running against trump for the repub nomination

I thought about all 3 of these guys. The only one of them that has a business background is Steyer. For the others, it’s been law and politics…but I’m open to Inslee (I’d love it to be him) or even Steyer and, if it had to be a Republican, I might be able to live with Weld. He’s brilliant and was very popular in MA. I would hope that the House and Senate would be under Democratic control though.

Just a thought – Weld strikes me as a smart, old fashioned republican with a reasonable amount of integrity, and ample governance experience. If dems had the house and senate control, if he happened to be pres, I think a lot could be accomplished together to repair some of trump’s damaging chaos – which I think is imperative during the next term.

Don’t have a clue who Steyer is as a person, but I looked up his birthdate, June 27, 1957, NY, and he does have a strong chart (he has to since he’s a billionaire), with links to the US Sibly one. He is a philanthropist and he doesn’t have any dirt (so far) to stick to him and he’s younger (62). Ya never know.

Natal Sun/Moon conjunction in Cancer, Venus in Cancer sextile Jupiter in Virgo, Neptune all over the place, but especially trine Sun/Moon/Mercury (the latter in Gemini). Progressed Moon at 9Scorpio trine progressed Uranus at 9Leo on Nov. 3, 2020 and transiting Saturn will oppose his natal Venus – more work for him to do? Worth a good look.

Sharon,

“The person Sterling described as the next pres, he saw only from the rear and he was tall and grey or blonde, as written above, with a background in hotels…”

Or, God forbid, Trump!

Beowulfie, thanks for the Steyer birth info (and for your support yesterday!).

Beowulfie, I’m not an astrologer but wouldn’t Steyer’s progressed Moon at 9 Scorpio be a square rather than a trine to progressed Uranus at 9 Leo on Nov. 3, 2020? Not so good?

Will, lol, I think he would have identified Trump.

This morning transiting Jupiter stationed direct and slowly begins its (apparent) move forward, while this evening transiting Uranus stations retrograde and then very slowly retreats back over the the last few degrees he recently covered.

Notice the shift as trans. URANUS begins to re-examine its findings from its semi-square to US natal Mars (thanks Nancy) and Trump’s natal Sun, and continues its pressure (T-square) on the US NATAL North and South Nodes, albeit less direct now.

The shift first shows up in the Full Moon (FM) chart on Thursday, August 15th, with its Moon at 22+ Aquarius, opposite the Sun and Venus at 22+ Leo, which are T-squared by Vesta (focus) at 22+ Taurus.

This transiting FM Vesta has 2 energy supplies in addition to her own remarkable stamina; she conjuncts the present Jupiter-Saturn cycle start point (22+ Taurus), and she is in a grand trine with the transiting FM PLUTO (21+ Capricorn rx) and US natal Neptune (22+ Virgo).

Vesta in Taurus says Show Me The Money. She has this grand trine energy backing up her demands, while she pressures (via her T-square with) the Full Aquarius Moon opposite Sun and Venus in Leo. Jeffrey Epstein’s natal Pluto was at 22+ Leo (opposite the Thursday FM).

To examine the full depth of this Aquarius FM chart would take (me) 6 typed (single space) pages to cover, so with just this incredibly unnuanced surface information . .
(Trans. Sun + Venus + Epstein Pluto opposite (shine light upon) Full Moon that’s T-squared by trans. Vesta [relentless] powered by the Saturn-Pluto cycle + trans. PLUTO + US natal Neptune)
. . that leaves little to the imagination, our attention is re-directed somewhat.

Suffice it to say transiting NEPTUNE (17+Pisces rx) squares Trump’s natal Uranus (17+ Gemini), while it also trines the TRANSITING North Node (path forward) at 17+ Cancer which squares Trump’s natal Jupiter (+ US progressed Mars + US Constitution Neptune + Putin’s natal Saturn) at 17+ Libra.

The plot thickens as transiting Jupiter, now moving forward, searches for the Truth. The outer planets, PLUTO in that grand trine, retro URANUS in challenging aspect to US Mars + Trump’s Sun, and NEPTUNE square Trump Uranus (+ quincunx Trump Jupiter + US prog. Mars, etc., etc.) tighten the web of intrigue in the mysterious death of Jeffery Epstein, villainous associate of Donald Trump.

The 4 most outer planets, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are retrograde for now, a Team Effort in digging up the past, but Jupiter moves forward in the US natal chart’s 1st house. That’s gotta be a plus.

Well, what do we think about Jeffrey Epstein’s “apparent suicide?” That 45 is using it to smear the Clintons with another conspiracy theory is bizarre but hardly beneath someone who seems to always play a lower card.

I have serious doubts that Epstein committed suicide.

PS – Transiting retrograde Neptune will reach Epstein’s natal Mars-Venus at 16+ Pisces by the Libra Equinox on September 23, 3:50 AM Washington, DC. Transiting Jupiter at 17+ Sagittarius (opposite Trump’s natal Uranus at 17+ Gemini) creates a T-square with Neptune + Epstein Mars-Venus.

Transiting Mercury at 14+ Libra (conjunct US natal Saturn + Trump’s Chiron and Juno) will T-square the transiting Equinox Nodes; the North Node conjunct US natal Sun in Cancer and the South Node conjunct transiting Saturn (direct) in Capricorn. The Press will have a field day!

Fear Grips The GOP As Iowa Conservative Voters Say They Can’t Vote For Trump

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/08/11/trump-iowa-voters.html … via @politicususa

I remember Linda G saying a few readings ago (& she’s probably reading on Epstein’s suicide) that a female associate of Epstein, who helped run the trafficking organization, would be convicted, go to jail, & tell a tell all book…but a little later. I hope the truth comes out. We have heard about a pedofile sex trafficking ring associated with the male Bushes & Clinton for yrs. It probably came from Epstein’s ring & was prob the basis of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory.

Bailey: Good point, and yes, it is a square, prog. Moon to prog. Uranus, which is not an easy aspect – but it is a surprising aspect, given that the Moon (which moves fairly fast even in a progressed chart) hits prog. Uranus (which moves hardly at all in a lifetime). Uranus is the planet of unexpected developments.

Thus the Moon kind of ‘comes up from behind’ to trigger the Uranus degree. Uranus is poised in Leo (don’t know the house) in Steyer’s chart, which is the sign of “kingship”. So maybe the people (Moon) could trigger him becoming President? Well, he is already a king of sorts, being so fabulously wealthy, and it may just be that he becomes very prominent for a time, but still does not win any office. You really can’t say more because knowing the angles (ascendant & midheaven) would be essential to understanding the potential for not just Steyer, but the whole country. Lots more factors have a say in that, but it looks like there is at least some “potential”.

Steyer does have natal Saturn at the same 9 degree mark as the progressed planets, but in a different sign, Sagittarius. If you go from the progressed Uranus in Leo to the natal Saturn in Sag, the angle is a trine (120), which is favorable to him. Saturn does indicate “work” of some kind, in whatever house it is in. Yet again, it’s too bad there is no birth time to look at his houses.

By itself, his personal chart is not strong enough to say he would become President (given no houses), but there are some aspects to the US chart(s) and it is the interplay between the charts that is more telling.

At least, it looks to me that he would be a serious competitor to Biden and a challenge to Trump – but he can do that without actually becoming Trump’s opponent in the final race if he does a good job in the debates.

It is necessary to have a look at Pence, too, of course, which I haven’t had time for. And I haven’t had time to compare charts between all the other candidates either, which does take a LOT of time!

Just reading Starlight’s and BarbK’s amazing charts and comments keeps a person up, tracing them through, nevermind doing more new ones. Gotta live a life too!

Sorry for the errors, playing cards at my in laws & posting hurriedly on my phone.

Just had one more thought on Steyer: his natal Saturn at 9Sag13 was retrograde at birth and some time ago, it went direct by progression. It is slowly catching up to meet the natal degree.

The progressed Saturn is now at 7Sag57, so it is almost one degree from exact conjunction, which puts it within “orb” for being effective relative to the birth degree (i.e. a position within 1 degree).

In Steyer’s chart, progressed Saturn doesn’t hit 8Sag until June 2022. So, it might be too soon for him.

Also, being in Sagittarius, his Saturn is not bureaucratic by nature – he might not be supported as much by the establishment. Perhaps, like Jimmy Carter, he might get in, but without the support of the “structure” of government, he might have a tough go of it.

That may be reading way too much into Steyer’s Saturn, but if it were in a cardinal or fixed sign it might put his work in a much more secure position. There are other factors in any chart that offset those kinds of things, but suffice it to say, he will be an outsider if he gets in. (Not saying that wouldn’t be a good thing in times like these!).

Oops, I should have said that Steyer’s progressed Saturn at the time of the election (Nov. 3, 2020), will be at 7Sag57. It’s still a bit off that now.

Wow, Beowulfie, that means Steyer, come election day, will have a progressed Saturn OPPOSITE the US natal Uranus (8+ Gemini)! (or did I read that wrong, been doing that lately)

Linda G reported from San Diego, but quickly gave a reading on Jeffrey Epstein and she said it was murder. She saw 2 dark forms in the room. He was supposed to be autopsied with results today.
What is so creepy is that B.Barr personally visited to the” SHU”, a bizarre move on his part a few days ago. It was unusual to see the Atty.General do this.

Epstein was known to have cameras around at least at the NY mansion. Too much came out to the media and that got the guilty ones soiling themselves.

Imagine what else the dark forces already uncovered.

It was a sloppy murder. I believe that. JE is going to be the martyr, eek.

Better in-laws than outlaws Sharon.

I agree, Bob, and they are my heroes….they push themselves so much and still enjoy life at 93 and 98. Both are clear-thinking and in good health, although I see a decline these days. Such a joy and privilege…my own parents have been gone for a while.

“There’s no way Jeffrey Epstein killed himself” (from former inmate in that prison)

https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/former-mcc-inmate-theres-no-way-jeffrey-epstein-killed-himself/

Yes, BarbK, that’s right.

As you know, the Sibly natal US Uranus is at 8Gemini55, in square to US Ceres at 8Pisces41Rx (it’s a tough road for women in politics in the US).

Steyer’s natal Saturn is at at 9Sagittarius13Rx. On election day, Nov. 3, 2020, his progressed Saturn will be at 7Sag57, which will be widely conjunct his natal Saturn and opposite (180) US natal Uranus at 8Gemini55.

So, both Steyer’s progressed and natal Saturn are in orb, opposite (180) to the US natal Uranus at 8Gemini. They are all in square aspect to (90) US natal Ceres at 8Pisces41Rx (a T-square).

At the same time, Steyer’s progressed Ceres will be at 9Cancer42, in trine (120) to the US natal Ceres at 8Pisces, and his progressed Uranus will be at 9Leo06 in sextile (60) to US natal Uranus at 8Gemini.

His progressed Moon will be at 9Scorpio15 in trine (120) to US natal Ceres at 8Pisces and inconjunct (150) to US Uranus at 8Gemini.

In addition, Steyer’s progressed Sun will be at 6Virgo22, in wide aspects to the various planets between 6 and 9 degrees.

So, there is a lot going on between Steyer’s chart(s) and the US natal Uranus and Ceres. Because of the Ceres aspects it would appear that women will be important to the picture for the election. Because of the close conjunction, trine and sextile aspects it would appear that Steyer should connect well with people and should have a favorable reception, although it certainly does not guarantee an election win.

Beyond that it is not possible to go without his (very important) birth Ascendant and Midheaven.

Found it: there is a video on San Francisco TV and a screen shot of a tweet that shows the time that Tom Steyer announced his run for President – it is 6:07am on July 9, 2019 in San Francisco.

TV Screen on the announcement shows 6:12 am CBS station KPIX ———–announcer says “just moments ago”

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2019/07/09/tom-steyer-launches-2020-presidential-campaign/

The tweet says:
@TomSteyer
It’s true. I’m running for president.
Embedded video
7,612
6:07 AM – Jul 9, 2019

Beowulfie, I too feel Ceres plays an important role regarding the US November 2020 elections.

It comes as the present US Ceres Return cycle ends and the new one starts on 12/20/2020, the day before the new Jupiter-Saturn cycle starts.

In both of these 2020 charts Mars-Eris squares Pluto who opposes US natal Mercury. I believe Ceres is as much about the US climate as she is about US women and US nurturing, There’s been a lot wounding in this country lately that cries out for nurturing.

BarbK, very true, it can be climate as well as women and nurturing both the earth, children etc. The wounding part is certainly true. Mars /Eris is just not a nice combination. Mercury being news, it makes you wonder about the role information technology and the news, not only the press, but twitter & fake news etc. will affect things. That’s not the whole story of course – have to look at the chart(s) in its entirety.

I quickly ran the announcement chart for Steyer against the US birth chart and I can’t say as it’s the most enthusiastic thing I’ve ever seen. Anyway, he’s one of 20 candidates (or is it more? I’ve lost count) and there is a long way to Nov. 3, 2020…onward ho!

Serious question:

After we begin to be entrenched in the Age of Aquarius, does anyone see this country being “whole’ again? Or… is it possible that the country would split into two sections and both go their own way in their own beliefs/creeds?

I ask this because, for the life of me, I can’t see how the enormous divides can be bridged. This 1/4-1/3 of the country that is Trumpian has been here all along. Until recently, we just managed to keep their voices down and shamed. I don’t see how they’re ever going to go back to that again. And I don’t see many of them ever becoming enlightened enough to be a functioning, cooperative part of a diverse society.

And, just like we women are not going to be relegated to property status once again, I don’t see any of us continuing to live with the type of terror and horror we’ve been living through (especially since 2000). Nor are we going to be beat down through jury-rigged politics where our voices no longer mean anything.

So, I can only see three possibilities:

1. Fascist, dictatorial government for the U.S.
2. A new all out civil war with no platitudes, as last time.
3. A division of the country into two separate countries.

Number 2 has all kinds of problems… all out civil war would be asymmetrical due to today’s weapons. I honestly can’t see how that could happen today, but then, a lot of countries are experiencing it, so who knows?

I doubt seriously I’ll be around to see it. Nor will I be around to see the Age of Aquarius I envisioned and worked toward as a teenager and throughout my life. I’m just wondering if anyone has looked towards the final culling of this period we’re living thru now.

Whimsy did a short reading–

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4OZh-_mWhQ

seems there was a deal-Intelligence agencies looked other way in order to have him operate as an intelligence person–for NATO

Slightkc, I think about it all the time, and the options you’ve outlined seem like real possibilities. Fascist like government is already in the making, we are already in a culture and political war that will only heat up and I think the only real solution is a loosening of the ties that bind us as a nation so that states will be more free to actualize according to their values. There are some problems though: climate change may make regions uninhabitable and those people will likely need to relocate and the other problem with increasing autonomy for states would be how people in purple states negotiate it all. But a huge factor to consider is that young people will over the next several years come into greater political power and their leanings are more in line with the vision we’ve both had as teenagers of the Aquarian Age. They hold the light and hope for our future and I cling to that. Blessings!

Frank, your response to Slightkc is a move in the correct direction, IMO. Wouldn’t it be a miracle if we could all go back to the pre 60’s delusions that the USA was the land of the free and the home of the brave; before all those assassinations and hippies and drugs took over? No?

The Uranus-Pluto conjunctions in the 60’s took place in Virgo, the same sign (and house) as the US natal Neptune. From my perspective, this new cycle between Uranus and Pluto would be a beginning of an awakening for the world; a healing or fixing (Virgo) process that at times would be extremely painful.

The opening 7 squares (2012-2015) between them, were the first test of the awakening process, Pluto in Capricorn (in US 2nd house of values) and Uranus in Aries (US 4th house of roots). Obama had become the US President.

Much of what we are experiencing now as conflict in the US is a result of those energies symbolized by the multiple squares between transiting Uranus and Pluto. Squares are difficult to say the least.

Trines though symbolize pleasant experiences, not energies in conflict. Transiting Uranus and Pluto will be in a trine, 3 of them, in June, 2027, January, 2028 and in May, 2028, and that last one will also be the US natal Uranus Return at 8+ Gemini. Think about that for a minute!

In less than 9 years we could be living in a transformed (for the better) country on a transformed planet. Not that the Uranus-Pluto cycle is transforming the US all by itself. The complexity of the multiple cycles going on can overwhelm the human brain (at least most of them including mine) at this point in our development.

We cannot see beyond the near future, say the next US presidential election, and we easily succumb to fear and hopelessness. Ergo Neptune’s negative characteristics (fear, hopelessness) lead to escapes like drugs and mental illness instead of Neptune’s positives like faith and hopefulness.

Think beyond this particular point when many of us see only black vs. white, good vs. evil, life vs. death, and imagine a process (like cooking a meal or seeing dirty laundry going into sudsy water) in its infancy. Yes, it’s awful now but oh how nice it will be later.

It doesn’t have to get worse. If you trust the language of astrology (I do) you hear/read the possibilities of decency toward all people, governments that encourage equality and other things that come with an increase in consciousness.

Imagination is one of the things Neptune symbolizes. Imagine if every child in the US got a good education, and poverty was reduced and homelessness was a thing of the past. What if equality was recognized between men and women, whites and people of color; what if disparity between belief systems no longer existed?

Imagination is a gift, not a flaw. What if there were no artists or inventors? We would still be in the dark ages if our species still existed. As we expand our consciousness (a process that hurts sometimes, like pregnancy does) we see things in a new way. possibilities arise out of nowhere.

Don’t submit to the dark thoughts. Allow the light to do its thing. Be patient. The kids that are 12 years old now will be 20 years old in 2027. Just imagine the ideas they will come up with between now and then.

slightkc, Frank, barbK,
I agree with barb’s timeline, but I strongly suspect climate catastrophe will be the agent of further illumination.

Ironically, the “red” states are mostly the ones in the wrong geographic location relative to future problems with sea level rise, desertification, etc. The exceptions are states subject to forest fires and other wildfires.

Another factor, “a real wake-up call” will be when we have to select a new area for our national capital due to sea level rise in WA-DC. These things will begun to unfold far sooner than expected, I suspect in 9-15 years from now.

All I can say is: Get out the vote!! The US is critical to getting action across the world.

To think that one idiot stands between action and none is beyond one’s wildest imagining, but it is sadly, tragically true. Of course, he’s not the only greedy climate denier, he’s just the most visible one. Energy futures are still running the real game, but now, to make it simple, it’s more air conditioning rather than heating that’s the problem.

Check this article from Australia on climate change and the urgency becomes acute (Australia being especially vulnerable as it is already a desert):

https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2019/august/1566136800/jo-lle-gergis/terrible-truth-climate-change

And BarbK, you are so right:

It doesn’t have to get worse.

If trump or pence got reelected, I think the effort to succeed will grow very strong on both the west coast and northeast. Most are waiting to see if this is a one-time disaster or not. Regardless of the outcome, there will be a push for greater state rights. If the Dems win than its the red states that push for state rights. Living in a blue state, I have welcomed succession since trump got elected. We in the blue states have paid far more to the Feds than we get back and the red states have paid very little and gotten a lot back. Plus as Eliseo and others have pointed out, given the inevitable climate changes, the red states are far more fu**ed.

Official: FBI Searching Jeffrey Epstein’s Virgin Island Complex, 2 Days After Apparent Suicide

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigations/Jeffrey-Epstein-Suicide-MCC-New-York-Prison-537408641.html … via @nbcnewyork

silcominc,
The secession movement comes with Putin’s blessing(and help):
https://thinkprogress.org/russia-texas-california-separatism-9809aca9f61d/

“Here is an @NBCNews article from 2014 about Dr. Baden, who has been tapped to attend the Epstein autopsy. The conflict issue that was uncovered in the Phil Spector trial is . . . telling.

Dr. Baden, a Fox TV contributor, & witness FOR OJ Simpson, is a high-priced defense expert to the stars. Why not have a reliable, objective, independent forensic pathologist like the Chief Medical Examiners from Maryland, Dr. David Fowler and/or DC, Dr. Roger Mitchell, involved?”

https://twitter.com/glennkirschner2/status/1160695077922136065

https://t.co/pKnJKmt9v7

“Barr’s “apparently suicide” claim is making the rounds like his “no obstruction, no collusion” claim did. He seems to subscribe to the theory: trial and conviction first, evidence later. First of all, I take nothing encouraging or comforting away from an assertion that Barr “knew a lot more than we did” about what happened to Epstein. Barr “knew a lot more that we did” about the Mueller report & he flat out lied to the American people about its contents… Second, Epstein obviously could have implicate many rich, influential, connected individuals in his child sex ring, giving many people motive to want him dead. Third, Epstein reportedly had curious injuries just a few weeks ago and was placed on suicide watch… Nothing should have been in his cell that could be used to hang himself. Fourth, typically there are multiple measures in place to prevent this from happening, like video surveillance and frequent welfare checks by corrections employees. So labeling this “an apparent suicide” is, at a minimum, inappropriate. The only announcement should have been “Epstein was found dead in his cell. Pending an autopsy and a full investigation we will not speculate as to the cause & manner of death & will have no further comment until the investigation is complete.”

Glenn Kirschner @GlennKirschner2
Legal Analyst; Fmr 30-yr fed prosecutor w/ @USAO_DC, DC Chief of Homicide & @USArmy JAG. President of @HomFamAdvocates

If you have the West Wing series television show an grounding episode for these times is Season 4, Episode 2, “20 Hours In America, Pt 2”.

“a” grounding episode not “an”

Elisabeth Grace:

” I was fascinated by this WaPo interview with Steven Hoffenberg, who spent 18 years in prison for partnering with Epstein in a Ponzi scheme. So why wasn’t Epstein held accountable for that? As I said, the interview is fascinating, and an astrologer trying to divine a birth time for Epstein would do well to pay close attention to the words his former close associate uses to describe him.”

http://www.graceastrology.com/category/daily-forecast/

Barb,

I have long observed the mid-to-late 2020s as having the high potential to be a generally positive, upbeat, free-spirited and hopeful time here and throughout the world, in contrast with the general heaviness and retrograde reactionary push of this current Capricorn-heavy, Saturn-Pluto punctuated period.

In addition to the trine from Uranus in Gemini to Pluto in Aquarius in the late 2020s, we will also have Neptune making a sextile to both from Aries beginning in 2026. Not a perfect Triangle in the heavens between 3 deeply influential outer planets, but fairly close.

Also, everyone keep in mind that all three of these big players are moving into new signs during a roughly 2-3 year period. So the heavy Earth emphasis by Uranus and Pluto will soon be transmuted into Air. Similarly, Neptune moving on from Pisces into Aries will transmute Water into Fire.

Altogether, I see a time of new knowledge, insights and inventions, scientific breakthroughs, revolutionary change and spirited ideas emerging, and this will seem like a direct response to the current period we are in. We won’t even have to wait until the mid-20s for all of this to be set in motion, as the Saturn-Jupiter conjunction at 0 Aquarius in December 2020 will represent an emerging new economic pattern that will take shape during the next two decades (and actually, the next two centuries with the mutation from Earth to Air complete as of this upcoming conjunction). Saturn itself will begin poking into Aquarius as early as February 2020, right on the heels of the Saturn-Pluto Conjunction in Capricorn in January, perhaps suggesting an intentional early planting of the seeds of mass social organization. Concepts, ideas and structures set in motion during Saturn in Aquarius will of course be empowered by Pluto when the latter enters Aquarius beginning in 2023.

Try as DJT, McConnell, Putin, Bannon and all of their ilk might, I just don’t see them successfully holding on to power much beyond the end of Pluto’s sojourn of Capricorn.

Pluto in Aquarius alone suggests a serious revival of Democracy and democratic principles–the opposite of Pluto in Leo, which saw the fall of the Iron Curtain and hard-line authoritarian regimes around the world in the wake of WWII. Even whatever gets planted by these charlatans during the Saturn-Pluto Conjunction will likely meet with its comeuppance when Pluto opposes Saturn in the mid 2030s–Aquarius(Pluto) to Saturn(Leo).

I predict we will see the total collapse of the GOP in the wake of DJT, whatever his ultimate fate, if not also an open and organized rebellion against its chokehold grasp around the levers of power in this country, and this rebellion will expand to include many corporations which heretofore have had almost complete free reign and space to do whatever they desired sans political consequences.

The new energies rising up here and around the world in the 2020s, and in the wake of the US Pluto Return in 2022 in particular, will not tolerate gerrymandering and McConnell’s Conservative justice-packed courts. Also, I don’t see a full breakup of the US or the “race war” that the white supremacists and their influencers tell themselves that they want and need so badly.

Rather, I suspect that we will likely see a push for more organic governance and government–grassroots-up and decentralized in spirit and form, rather than the top-down and centralized approach the US has gone with. Cities and their suburbs could form metropolitan governments that span multiple counties in some places, and thus remain closer to the people they serve, becoming neo city-states in a sense. In contrast, many state governments will likely become significantly less important, if not quaint relics of the colonial period. Some state governments could even be disbanded, and several major cities will be forced to relocate and/or give up altogether due to the disappearing coasts. Certainly, this could include DC, as well as Miami, New York and others. At some point, interest will surge for inland cities like Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Detroit, which will be reevaluated as desirable places to live by coastal refugees.

Leaked Executive Order Would Let US Gov Control Social Media

A leaked draft of an executive order reviewed by CNN Business would give the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) broader power to regulate how social media sites like Facebook and Twitter moderate and curate content on their platforms. While many have called for increased regulation of social media companies, this executive order seems to be at least partially motivated by the perceived anti-conservative bias on social media — that Trump insists exists despite a lack of evidence.

https://futurism.com/the-byte/executive-order-us-control-social-media

BuckeyeShadow,
I concur with your futurist vision. There will be problems. We’ll not have any kind of Utopia, but will have as you said, “a serious revival of Democracy and democratic principles” through which to solve our difficulties. My hope is we all will get beyond our identitarian reactionary politics and back to pragmatc solutions in the service of our ideals. We’ll likely be defining Liberal and Conservative quite differently than we do today.
ProgressIves won’t get everything they want, but neither will Conservatives. Compromise is the essence of democracy.

I too see the rise of “city-states” and the decline in importance of state governments. Climate change and new agricultural technology will accelerate that. No use in using up acreage when we can grow so much more, more efficiently in skyscraper labs. What was once farm land can be returned to being forest or prairie. Who knows? As we will have lost a few states (like Florida as example) we might even divide up the nation into bioregions!

Also, a possibly warmer Great Lakes region will become far more important. About 20% of the world’s freshwater is in the Great Lakes.

The UK Brexit will lead to a UK/USA trade union bloc which will eventually include also NZ, Australia, Canada, Mexico and possibly the central Am. nations. Climate change catastrophes will force nations to cooperate at unprecedented levels.

Wow Buckeye, I appreciate your great overview of things to come. Now that’s what I would call transformation.

We must keep in balance the present chaos and turmoil (and why it must take place) with the future advances it will reap. I’m sure the people who lived during the Civil War rarely, if ever, thought anything good could come from all that suffering. Some still hold onto that pain. It’s tradition.

It occurs to me that since the Civil War, there are more of us now who think slavery was despicable, or at least very wrong, than those who still feel the South should have won that war.

I believe that the backlash of white supremacy, etc. is a part of the inequality associated with the patriarchal society coming to an end.

It’s about the sense of losing control that’s embedded within those who had (or thought they deserved) control over others. It’s why some think they need assault rifles to shoot deer or protect their loved ones.

It is the hate (and fear) that Pluto digs up from our unconscious or semi-conscious or (for some,) our consciousness that resists letting go of any semblance of control or superiority over others. Hence they elect (albeit not with a majority of votes) a Donald Trump to be US President.

If you look at the chart of the 1st conjunction (of 3) between NEPTUNE and PLUTO you see there is an opposition between restrictive Saturn (15+ Virgo) and expansive Jupiter (16+ Pisces), a societal thing.

Transiting Neptune was at 16+ Pisces in May, June and July of 2018, and March 2019, and will return to 16+ Pisces in the last 3rd of September, all of October, and the first 3rd of November.

Transiting Neptune will station direct in late November and again reach 16+ Pisces in December and almost all of January, 2020.

Transiting Neptune will be at 16+ Pisces in the brand new SATURN-PLUTO conjunction chart too, activating the NEPTUNE-PLUTO cycle chart’s Jupiter where it opposed Saturn in Virgo (and as well, where the PLUTO-URANUS conjunctions in the 60’s took place).

So, I think about that; transiting Neptune in a brand new PLUTO-SATURN cycle will be opposing the URANUS-PLUTO cycle start point, and energizing a Jupiter (opposite Saturn) in the chart of an active cycle between NEPTUNE and PLUTO; a cycle which began at 8+ Gemini, where the US natal Uranus sits.

8+ Gemini is also where transiting Uranus will be when it trines transiting Pluto at 8+ Aquarius in May 2028. For the US it will be a coming home Uranus.

The Civil War ended in 1865 and the NEPTUNE-PLUTO cycle started 31 years later in 1891, conjunct the US natal Uranus, and that cycle’s chart had Jupiter in a degree where transiting Neptune was last year and this past March, and will be in Sept, this year through Nov., and again in Dec. 2019 through Jan. 2020.

Neptune then has energized 2 active PLUTO cycles within the last 2 years and will do so again in a 3rd PLUTO cycle (with Saturn) in 5 months from now.

Because of these things, I’m convinced that the Greater Powers (higher consciousness) are upgrading the status of Humanity and have various ways of communicating to said Humanity how (and why) this must be done. One of those ways is through the language of astrology.

If Humanity is to remain the Keeper of the Planet Earth it will have to change or be discarded as a failure to perform.

Thanks for your uplifting views buckeye. For me this period of insanity has always felt to be the ‘one step back’ phase of the ‘two steps forward’ version of societal evolution.
And its simple logic – we evolve, or die. And too many humans are loving enough and innovative enough and smart enough to not push for a better world.

I recently watched this again of comedian/composer aussie Tim Minchin’s address a few years back and thought I would share for a smile – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acVLqyURx_Q&fbclid=IwAR2ECJYOADzeg8PvLFlEqggLQ1CL9KvZsKNPp-9OfUI6DoflXbMNuuQPXqE

Dear Starlighters,

I have been a long time lurker of your excellent website. Since some of you have expressed interest in astrology and psychics, I bring you The Oracle of Whimsey ( Dr Whimsey). She’s an excellent remote viewer and she has shared insights into the Meuller investigation. Her take includes Putin’s “trade routes”, human and arms trafficking, money laundering with the Russians and crypto currency and implicates some big names. She also talks about Putin’s propaganda and his preference of private contractors after American troop withdrawal. Here’s the YT link https://youtu.be/nEuOGdYAqyU
Warning she has many videos, you may want to watch them chronologically.

Willows Web Astrology:

“We’re all master builders now and over the next few years as this 22nd degree of
Capricorn is activated and then expanded upon. The house where 22 Capricorn falls in
your natal and Secondary Progressed charts indicates the particular area where this
foundational framework is coming together or being built up in your life. We’re putting a
framework in place that will sustain us (and others) for many years to come. Each
activation of this degree indicates another stepping stone, another building block,
another concrete element of the whole. We’re gradually building something befitting us
and the human community around us, even though we can’t see the full picture as we
move step-by-step toward this.”

Well said, Barb. And definitely some interesting links with the ongoing Neptune-Pluto cycle of the early 1890s in Gemini. I also feel like the third US Uranus Return at 8 Gemini is going to be a particularly important watershed moment in this country’s history. It won’t be a new civil war. Rather, I think it will mark a critical turning point in the country’s general orientation towards the future. The trine from Pluto in Aquarius really speaks into that. For sure, it won’t be a triumph for Reactionary Conservatism and the likes of Bannon and his ilk.

Eliseo,
I agree about the Great Lakes region becoming much more important in the future. I’ve been looking at the charts for several of the principal cities in the region. I believe Cleveland in particular will be experiencing a new zenith by mid-century, on the heels of its Pluto Return (July 22, 1796), progressed Sun entering Aries (currently in Pisces) in the mid 2030s and Pluto transiting its Pisces Moon in 2044. Cleveland’s last peak was arguably near the end of the Great Depression/Start of U.S. involvement in WWII, when Pluto entered Leo, conjuncting its natal 10th house Sun. Lots of shifting, empowering of the people and a fresh new outlook emerging around this period. Well in advance of that, the city is about to experience a challenge to remake itself in a fundamental way, on a massive scale. It’s natal sun at 0 Leo will be opposed not only by Pluto in Aquarius in 2023-24, but by the 20 year Saturn-Jupiter cycle starting at 0 Aquarius in December 2020. Detroit will likely experience a similar challenge and shift with it’s 1 degree Leo Sun (July 24, 1701). Keep your eyes on Cleveland in particular, though.

Notoriously conservative Capricorn Cincinnati (December 28, 1788, Sun and Moon in Capricorn) also seems to be on the rise again and will probably be “noticed” sooner. Pluto and more recently Saturn transiting its sun and moon seem to have coincided with substantial influx of new investment and development. Despite Cincinnati’s slow-to-meet-the-times outlook, the younger generation of Cincinnatians seems ready to meet the world and carry their city into the future, kicking and screaming if necessary.

Ohio’s Aquarian capital city Columbus (February 14, 1812) may in a sense come to represent the Pluto in Aquarius era, at least here in the Midwest. It has emerged as something of an oasis of unabashedly progressive ideas, values and humanism in this part of the country. Pluto transiting its Sun in the late 2030s could see its standing and relationship with Ohio completely transformed. Maybe a divorce? Or a sense of it stepping away from just being the capital of Ohio and standing on its own terms.

Pittsburgh (November 27, 1758) is a super Sagittarian city with a probable 6th house stellium, Moon in Scorpio (some astrologers say Libra, but my sense of the people and their character here has always been Scorpionic rather than Venusian/Erisian, though for what its worth, all three planets are in Sag). There will almost certainly be a series of breakthroughs and new challenges to old, long accepted truths and norms when Uranus in Gemini opposes all those Sag planets.

The one major threat I see in this region is the legacy of fracking and deep earth chemical injections, a legacy of the Oil & Gas lobby and too many politicians on the take, including those often mistaken as middle-of-the road level-headed Republicans like John Kasich, Ohio’s former governor. Pluto in Pisces in the 2040s and 2050s at mid-century could bring us face to face with the environmental consequences of these industries and our leaders’ shortsighted policies.

I smell a rat. That Barr is grandstanding about all he is going to be doing to investigate and prosecute this “outrage” would be laughable if it wasn’t a diabolical deflect. The likelihood of Epstein successfully committing suicide in that prison at that time is simply wrong and not kosher at all, at all, at all.

This was a hit job that came all the way from the top.

Tuesday 13 August 2019
slightkc,
I’ve definitely decided to come through Leavenworth and visit you and your hubby. The route has all sorts of advantages.

I don’t know yet if I’ll go further north on I-29 and connect with I-90, OR turn westward from Leavenworth and take I-80 through Nebraska and Wyoming connecting with I-84 in Utah and then I-5 in Portland Oregon on my way to Olympia.

Please get back to me with your opinion.

BuckeyeShadow,
I’m curious. Have you taken a gander at the charts for Madison, Milwaukee, or Oshkosh, Wisconsin?

David Johnson

Live reading – last part is the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQvSFLyN3Gk

“Today’s take. Epstein had videotapes of many very powerful people engaged in compromising and illegal acts. Now someone else has that Kompromat. And thus immense power over them. That person is Bill Barr and his boss. Donald Trump. Truth must out so they cannot be blackmailed.”

https://twitter.com/jentaub/status/1161603218436218880

re smelling a rat with Epstein, I had serious doubts about his viability from the minute he was arrested, but when Barr engineered his transfer to a federal facility (when Epstein belonged under another jurisdiction), my doubts turned to certainty.

Barr – Noon Chart – not a recorded time
May 23 1950, 12:00 pm

Natal Saturn 12°38′ Virgo

Natal Neptune 14°52′ Libra, progressed Neptune 14°54′ Libra. Both squared by Saturn July 28 through November 7 every day (September 1 through October 5 in RA). Strongest when Saturn stations direct September 18, 2019, 13°55′ Capricorn. Also a bad day for tRump and Pence.

The opposition of transiting Neptune to Barr’s progressed Saturn IS EVERYDAY FROM NOW THROUGH EARLY 2020. It is a major aspect and the only one that is in effect every day for the next 6 months. Watch for it to be triggered when aspected by transits throughout this year.

Sep 5 2019 Sun at 12°38′ Virgo conjunct natal Saturn
September 6 2019 Mars at 12°38′ Virgo conjunct natal Saturn
Sep 10 2019 Sun at 17°12′ Virgo conjunct progressed Saturn
Transit Neptune exactly opposite progressed Saturn on Sep 13, 2019, at 17°12′ Pisces.
September 14 2019 Mars at 17°12′ Virgo conjunct progressed Saturn

Pluto stations direct October 3, 2019, 20°38′ Capricorn (RA 292°24′). Square progressed Mars at 202°19′.

Dec 4 2019 Sun at 12°38′ Sagittarius square natal Saturn
Dec 9 2019 Sun at 17°14′ Sagittarius square progressed Saturn

Saturn Square progressed Mars January 18 to February 4, 2020, 24°30′ Capricorn (RA December 18 to January 3).

January 21 2020 Mars at 12°38′ Sagittarius square natal Saturn
January 28 2020 Mars at 17°15′ Sagittarius square progressed Saturn

Transit Neptune exact opposite progressed Saturn on Feb 5, 2020, at 17°15′ Pisces.

If maxwell was trusted by epstein he may have had her hold or let her know where he kept incriminating material to be used as leverage (think tin foil hat secret, disguised safe in one or more of his properties).

If she is angered by a belief that he was murdered or is afraid that she may be next she could approach Mueller or another former member of DOJ, the FBI, or CIA (identified on various tv programs) and offer same to get into protective custody (witness protection program?). tRump had a good chart on Aug 10 but both he and barr spiral down from here through next February.

Wow, more examples of a definite shift happening!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/08/14/opinion/joe-walsh-trump-primary.amp.html

Ralfee Finn:

https://aquariumage.com/Weekly_Frequency/

This is another way our consciousness is changing, I know I feel this:

https://www.bustle.com/p/climate-grief-is-a-more-common-emotion-than-youd-think-18656107

Please join us to focus on the new era as it emerges through our world.

Every month on a Friday close to the New Moon, friends and co-workers take time out to envision the new era. Our next focus is on
Friday 30 August 2019 at 6 pm.
There is no physical plane meeting – instead we invite you, wherever you may be, to join us in visualizing the emerging New World.
Our intention is to go beyond what is breaking down, in order to see and envision what is rising up – being created anew. It can already be apprehended wherever human hearts are opening to one another, to our world and to all that embodies that great Life.

Visualisation Exercise

If you would like to participate in the visioning process from your location, please visit New Earth hour – Visualization Exercise for a copy of the visualization exercise.

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Julie: What are your thoughts on Epstein? Suicide, murder or secreted away somewhere with a new identity?

Wonder if McConnell will get arrested in this emerging scandal about lifting sanctions on a Russian so he could get an aluminum factory built in Kentucky and also Vitter’s role in putting this deal together. David Vitter is the disgraced former Senator from LA and now Russia lobbyist and his wife was fast-tracked as a Federal judge by McConnell.

Speaking of prison, Barr looks to be totally responsible for Epstein death with his budget cuts to Federal prisons and his own shadowy relationship to Epstein.

From the Definition of Fascism, July 19:

“In the US chart, we find the transiting Saturn station will sit in a square with US Saturn (14Libra48) from July 29 to October 22, suggesting a loss of prestige, power, and respect for the US that may impact the economy (Saturn rules the second house). And of particular concern, we find that the US progressed Moon will be square to US natal Saturn from August 15 to September 15, pointing to sorrow and grief in some segment of the population”

Not only is the economy starting to show signs of recession during this Saturn station, but everyone is now commenting on the US loss of prestige and power in the world in light of Trump’s refusal to stand up for Hong Kong.

From today’s NYT:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/14/upshot/global-economic-trouble-is-brewing-and-the-trade-war-is-only-part-of-it.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/13/world/asia/trump-asia.html?searchResultPosition=1

By the way, these two issues support the Sag rising US chart with Saturn in the 10th and ruling the second.

Starlight, your comment on Sag rising is noted.

How significant is the fact that the Saturn station will not only square US Neptune, but come very near an opposition to the US Sun, without quite making it? I have the feeling if it had, Trump might be in even deeper trouble this year. At any rate, it seems to be another sign of slumping credibility, even if it doesn’t translate in the polls.

Angellight I thought from the very beginning that he was in danger and would never come to trial.

Angellight,
i will definitely participate and could really use connecting with others this way. Thanks for the post and for many of your other posts!

tRump is in a string of consecutive bad days right now.

If I Can Dream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-pP_dCenJA

35 days.

Why were my posts deleted?

Bob, I see you last two posts about Barr at 10:31 p.m. and Maxwell at 10:53. Did you have others? Maybe they are in moderation for some reason? (usually technical)

The posts contained what is in this post Sharon. They were in moderation before being deleted.

tRump is in the middle of a short string of negative days.

Good lyrics in the face of the racist resident. (This line was not in any of them.)

Elvis Presley – If I Can Dream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-pP_dCenJA

Eliseo,

I haven’t followed the culture and running trends in the western Midwest as much as in the east, so I don’t know how well I can speak to long term trends there. I will say from my sense of the region that its struggles haven’t been nearly so bad as those in the east. Unlike many Midwestern cities, Madison has actually been growing for the past several decades. Milwaukee is a Leo Sun, Libra Moon city (July 30, 1835), while Madison is a Sag Sun, Gemini Moon city (Nov 24, 1836) founded just over a year later. If these are accurate, Milwaukee will be facing some sort of heavy challenge to its identity, and perhaps an elected official (Mayor?) in a little under a decade when Pluto opposes its Sun. I see Minneapolis-St. Paul in a similar category. I do think as the coasts struggle and sink, these inland cities, like Cleveland, Pittsburgh, etc. will also see a lot more attention and interest from displaced citizens of the coasts.

I couldn’t readily find a founding date for Oshkosh, but it seems to have been settled around the same time period.

A legal incorporation date for a town or city isn’t necessarily the date that crystalizes its identity, although it could be looked at as a chart of governance. All my studies have suggested that the first public declaration is what cements it.

BuckeyeShadow,
Thanks for the info on the western Midwest cities. Throughout most of human history and prehistory most of us have preferred to live near water. I agree cities around the Great lakes will get more attention when we get a bit more sea level rise. It won’t take much water rise, and I believe it will be pretty apparent and present 10-15 years from now, far sooner than has been anticipated.

The sea level rise will be more troublesome on the Gulf and East coasts where dikes and seawalls are much less do-able. West coast cities will experience less sea level rise due to topography and because sea walls and dikes are much more practical there for civil engineers.

As Midwest winters lessen in severity, the cities in the Great Lakes basin will become far more attractive and popular places to live and work. In due time I believe a cultural and scientific renaissance will birth and develop there. Eventually, the Great lakes basin will be considered the heart of all of North America. I also expect major changes in personality for Chicago and Detroit.

Helluva full moon. Helluva full moon.

Bob – Your posts were in moderation because you mispelled the email on them as tahoo.com

Andre – The Saturn station is somewhat shy of opposite US Sun. I agree with you that if the station were exact, we might be witnessing an impeachment right now. But the 10th house is also the chief executive’s house, and so the long Saturn square to US Saturn is impacting him.

The Neptune transit square US Mars and opposite US Neptune won’t happen until 2021. The same transit will square Trump’s Sun and Moon. Another reason not to want him for another four years (as if we need another). The current Saturn station is nowhere near a square to US Neptune.

Eliseo,

The greatest effects of climate change will become apparent after Pluto moves into Pisces in 2044, particularly those involving sea level rise and long-term weather pattern changes. The Uranus-Pluto Opposition of 2046-48 will be the integration point of all that was brought to light with regards to our environment and the threats posed to it, during the conjunction in Virgo in 1965-66.

And also, like you, I don’t think we are going to have to wait even that long to see substantial changes manifest. At the same time, one positive aspect about the coming Pluto in Aquarius era before Pluto gets to Pisces is that we will see human ingenuity in response to our degrading biosphere and climate on a scale that hasn’t occurred in our lifetimes. One more reason to be optimistic that the present ultra-reactionary conservative era will soon give way to a new period of massive, forward motion and revolutionary changes.

I honestly see men like McConnell, Bannon, and the power players and financiers behind them, men like Putin and Charles Koch, really being sidelined and swept aside by the events of the next several years.

A paradigm shift is unfolding, and it is going to render irrelevant everything they have worked towards, including the seeds of iniquity and discord.

In the end, they are going to look quite small and trivial in the face of what’s coming.

I tried tahoo.com and like in the past when I misspelled the Email site the post was not accepted and sent to moderation but I got a message to enter a correct Email address.

And then after entering the correct yahoo.com I kept getting that same message instead of the post being accepted.

Some lie is going on here.

I deleted history, backed out, and used CCleaner before beginning this post. Let’s see what happens.

I am being prevented from signing in even though I am using my correct Email address.

I will send this message to someone else who posts on this site as I keep getting this message even though I am using my correct
email address.

This is being done by someone connected to this site as it does not haooen on other sites.

Speaking of the Full Moon (FM) at 22+Aquarius which opposes the Sun at 22+ Leo, the transiting Vesta – having just recently made a US natal Vesta Return (19+ Taurus) – is now at 22+ Taurus, and completes a T-square with today’s Full Moon and Sun.

This transiting FM Vesta is also trine transiting FM Pluto (21+ Capricorn rx) while also trine the US natal Neptune at 22+ Virgo.

Today’s Full Moon Vesta (investment) is wielding a lot of power as she is being forced into taking action (2 squares) by the Full Moon and the transiting Sun.

In the US, it is simply a matter of relying on the US Neptune (which transiting Vesta trines) and the transiting retrograde Pluto which both trans. FM Vesta and US Neptune trine.

This grand trine will be in effect for the US only, and it symbolizes a smooth flow of energy, absorbing the challenges (2 squares) received by the FM Vesta (symbol of what is invested in) from this Sun in Leo opposite Full Moon in Aquarius.

Neptune can symbolize dissolution, disillusion, illusion, drugs, oil, show biz, art, inspiration, ideology, water, sacrifice, hypnosis, imagination and more. How it manifests – the US natal Neptune in Virgo – could have to do with healthcare, jobs, foreign countries and people (US Neptune in 9th house) the Internet (9th house rules networking) religious beliefs and human trafficking among other things.

Pluto of course is about death and rebirth, and trans. Pluto (trine trans. Vesta trine US Neptune) in the 2nd house of the US natal chart is about the death and rebirth of what is valuable to us. These 3 – Pluto, Vesta, Neptune – are in earth signs so we assume these valuables are material in nature.

Material values have been a preoccupation of the USA, intensifying in the last 50 years or so, back when Uranus and Pluto in Virgo were conjunct and when transiting Vesta (invest) was conjunct the US natal Jupiter (excess) in Cancer.

As it turns out TRANSITING Neptune in Pisces is opposing the 1960’s Uranus-Pluto conjunctions, which, although not a chickens-coming-home-to roost moment, is a bit of a wake-up call. TRANS. Neptune is quincunx (150 deg. aspect) the US PROGRESSED Mars in today’s Full Moon in Aquarius chart.

Quincunxes demand adjustment. US PROG. Mars is conjunct Trump’s natal Jupiter (as well as US Constitution Signing chart’s Neptune and, for good measure, Putin’s natal Saturn, hence the Moscow Mitch brouhaha).

We are in a period when our values (trans. Pluto + Saturn in US 2nd house of Values) are undergoing a transformation. What if our $$$ lose their value? What will we value instead? This FM today, in the US natal 2nd house, asks us to consider this possibility.

Tea Party Ex-Congressman Joe Walsh Apologizes For Helping Elect ‘Unfit Con Man’ Trump

First the Mooch, now Joe Walsh:
“We’ve had enough of your indecency. We’ve had enough of your lies, your bullying, your cruelty, enough of your insults, your daily drama, your incitement, enough of the danger you place this country in every single day.”

https://t.co/VPYZrRdwCx

Frank: You are so welcome. If seen earlier, I would have posted the link this morning for our Full Moon meditation. We are having a special meditation later at 3:30 p.m. I will post the link here for you.

Frank: You might be interested in this

Leo Full Moon SIRIUS WEBINAR
Thursday 15AUG at 7:30pm GMT/UT
3:30 PM EST

REGISTER: https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/8249017118955250188
Webinar ID: 330-160-355

The relationship between our Solar Logos and Sirius is cosmically “intimate”. Sirius is the “Initiator”. Our Solar Logos is the “Cosmic Student”, not yet a sacred Solar Logos as Sirius already is. At the time of the Leo Full Moon, this relationship between our Solar Logos (Helios) and Sirius is emphasized–both are extremely powerful. At this webinar we will discuss this relationship and meditate upon its implications.
Please send your questions, comments and feedback to:

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Today’s Full Moon also has close ties to the present Jupiter-Saturn cycle, emphasizing today’s FM Vesta, since she’s in the same degree as where Jupiter and Saturn started their cycle; 22+ Taurus.

In that chart (May 28, 2000) Chiron was at 14+ Sagittarius, where the Great Attractor is and where today’s FM Jupiter is.

This link between the Jupiter-Saturn cycle and today’s NM emphasizes the discomfort (Chiron) being produced by this transformation process (trans. Pluto in US 2nd house) as it, the Jupiter-Saturn cycle’s Chiron, and today’s FM Jupiter both sextile the US natal Saturn in Libra (that conjuncts Trump’s natal Chiron and Juno).

And yet, it is also supportive (sextile) of the US Saturn in its transformation; a kind of “We are not alone” support, provided by the Great Attractor, also at 14+ Sagittarius.

There is also the Jupiter-Saturn cycle chart’s Mars at 17+ Gemini (where Trump’s natal Uranus is as well) that’s being squared by today’s NM Neptune at 17+ Pisces.

That Mars (in the Jupiter-Saturn chart) in Gemini (via Trump’s Uranus) has been fueling the US PROGRESSED Mars at 17+ Libra (conjunct Trump’s Jupiter + US Constitution Neptune) in an easy-peasy trine.

So, today’s NM Neptune, in addition to opposing the 1960’s conjunctions between Uranus and Pluto in Virgo (that squared Trump’s Uranus in Gemini), it ALSO squares the Mars (that conjuncts Trump’s Uranus in Gemini) in the 2000 conjunction chart of Jupiter and Saturn. Who knew how efficient Neptune could be.

From the perspective of these 2 long term cycles, it appears to me that the Universe set the US up for this Trump presidency in order to bring these corrupt situations to the surface (consciousness) so they could be dealt with through the upcoming Pluto-Saturn cycle starting in January 2020, and the US Pluto Return in 2022.

These flaws in our society and government have remained virtually undetected in the average person’s life because the average person is pretty unconscious of what doesn’t affect him or her directly. No more though. We are becoming (and must become) conscious of the breaches in our government by individuals and corporations. The time is nigh.

Just wanted to thank you all for your kindness last week. We got to see our friend a few hours before he died. It was hard, but we also got to watch the way his son was taking care of him, and it was so gently and lovingly and attentive, it was truly a beautiful thing to watch. Made me realize our friend had people in his life who loved him so much and great relationship with them, and we should all be so lucky to have someone taking care of us as kindly as his son was taking care of him.

This is also a son who lived for a long time with a drug problem, and there were times when the dad gave up on him. Left him outside on the law one night when he showed up out of it and passed out there. But he got up the next day and found a rehab center for him, and the son really go this life together. Gave our friend three beautiful grandchildren, who brought him so much joy.

So, it brought me hope for our own daughter.

Also, my niece’s youngest daughter turned 1 while we were there, and there’s nothing like being at a 1-year-old’s birthday party to bring you joy.

Teresa Hill,

Such a powerful experience for you to witness Teresa; may your daughter be protected and guided toward the Light

Starlight, thank you. I meant the Saturn station square US Saturn.

I couldn’t say it better myself.

How World leaders Ruin the Economy

World leaders have ruined the world, not just the economy. My birth post-dated WW II’s ruination by about ten years; but in my own my lifetime, we’ve had Joseph McCarthy; the Cuban missile crisis; a grab bag of brutal Central and South American dictatorships, most of them created or propped up by the American government. Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos, which we flattened for no good reason one can articulate, while squandering trillions of lives and dollars and leaving chaos in our wake. The S&L crisis. The ill-advised, ill-conceived, disastrously executed war on Iraq – which also left chaos for others to grapple with and squandered trillions of American dollars. The adoption of the Big Economic Lie: ‘trickle down economics,’ with drastic tax cuts that have bankrupted the country. The dot com bubble. The real estate bubble and ‘Great Recession.’

And now, the Trumpublican fiasco. Each day brings a new dose of willfully ignorant, self-destructive ‘policy,’ much of it merely childish spite played out on a grand stage.

One might say we get the government we deserve – but that’s not quite true. The Republican Party has concocted ways to grab and hold majority power with support from a minority of Americans, by manipulating our election process. In just the past 20 years, we’ve had two Presidents elected contrary to the majority vote – which happened only once in over two centuries before that.

We’re in need of a radical fix -”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/15/opinion/recession-stock-market.html?

“You cannot make this up. AG Barr’s father hired Epstein without a college degree to teach at the prep school he ran & wrote 2 books while Epstein worked there: One,

“Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale,” is about sex slaves! Check google if you don’t believe.

https://twitter.com/JillWineBanks/status/1161839355771723776

I posted earlier about McConnell and Vitter and Russia but what I do not know is when McConnell went to the dark side. For Obama’s last few years in the White House, McConnell did not let him appoint ANY Federal judges, waiting until 2016. But how did McConnell know that a Republican would win in 16? At what point did McConnell become a Russian asset?

There is a sextile in Beto O’Rourke’s natal chart between his Venus (20+ Leo) and his Saturn (20+ Gemini) which transiting retrograde Pluto (21+ Capricorn) completes a Yod with. His own natal North Node at 23+ Capricorn served the same purpose which I believe is his drive for perfection in some form.

At the time of the El Paso shooting, transiting Mars was conjunct Beto’s Venus at 20+ Leo and transiting Pluto was at 21+Capricorn. It is logical that he would have been moved to dedicating himself to “taking it (the disaster in El Paso) to Donald Trump directly”, what with transiting Pluto being only 2 degrees from Beto’s natal North Node.

Beto’s North Node 23+ Capricorn trines his natal Moon at 23+ Taurus* and when combined with the US natal Neptune at 22+ Virgo it creates a grand trine; a powerful, almost unstoppable force of energy. Today’s Full Moon Vesta at 22+ Taurus conjuncts Beto’s Moon. (Trans. Vesta was conjunct US natal Vesta at 19+ Taurus that day of the shooting in El Paso.)

Beto’s natal Moon (symbolizes home) also conjuncts Trump’s MC at 24+ Taurus, which symbolizes Trump’s reputation and how he is seen in the world. Beto is on a mission now.

*I believe Beto has Sagittarius rising with natal Jupiter at 1+ Cap in the 1st house. If so, it’s possible transiting Jupiter was on or near his ascendant that day, and still is. In any case, transiting Jupiter will conjunct his natal Jupiter (a Jupiter Return) in early December.

Now this is good! And, Eliseo, keep us posted on your journey — hope it’s going well!

https://thinkprogress.org/five-democratic-senators-just-declared-all-out-war-on-the-supreme-court-7601fed719e6/

Sharon K,

“Perhaps. But you know what was also outside of legal norms? A sitting judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit angrily confronting senators who credibly accused him of trying to rape Christine Blasey Ford — and then threatening revenge against those Senate Democrats. The Whitehouse brief is best read as several prominent Democrats’ response to “what goes around comes around.”

Nothing short of delicious!

I got whiplash a couple of times reading Whitehouse vs. White House – nonetheless, compelling piece!

silcominc,

“But how did McConnell know that a Republican would win in 16? At what point did McConnell become a Russian asset?”

Downright pithy!

Eliseo,

Very safe travels and yes, keep us posted.

The CNN Stephen Colbert Interview With Anderson Cooper

Fascinating and heart-warming…..

Video 39 min 18 sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehpX80cgj24

To All:
Thank You for your concern and kind safe journey wishes. I haven’t left yet. I’ve a bit more to wrap up here if I am to continue regarding myself as a responsible sort of person.
I’ll likely be leaving SE Texas, heading north to Leavenworth on Wednesday the 21st or Thursday the 22nd. I’ve spoken with slightkc. It all feels right.

“BREAKING: A Young, Attractive, Casually Dressed Woman With No Legal Files with Her Visited Epstein for a Minimum of Two Hours, in Lieu of His Attorneys, the Day After He Was Taken Off Suicide Watch”

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1162118822431744000

Here is a great story by Elilzabeth Warren about the first time she met Barack Obama – you will love it!

https://twitter.com/USCForWarren/status/1162133898224111616

A little aside about how I know personally that astrology works (and notice this very often). Jupiter is transiting my 6th house which I’ve always experienced as routines, work, getting organized, getting things done, and, when pressured by a more “pressuring aspect”, having to sublimate myself and take care of or sacrifice for others. Well, I started feeling it before it went direct but now I, a mushy, dreamy Pisces (mars, venus, jupiter, sun) am back on track and am really enjoying pacing myself, getting organized, getting things done again. Good transits of my 6th house really help me (lol).

Eliseo, it’s good to give yourself time anyway. Pacing oneself is sometime hard when there’s no choice.

And this may just continue to make your day! It is great!

https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/1162397005274058756

Lastly, I am a fan of Israel and its right to exist and protect itself but this time Netanyahu really blew it! There is only so far that he and Trump can go as a team before it backfires, and it has backfired again. What a bunch of morons!

Nancy, you are saying US progressed Moon in Capricorn is now waxing square (August 15-Sept. 15) to US natal Saturn (14+ Libra), while transiting Saturn (retrograde) at 14+ Capricorn is square US natal Saturn (14+ Libra). Am I reading this right? Is the transiting Saturn conjunct the US progressed Moon?

If so, this might be the reason Fox polls show that the 4 leading Dem candidates are beating Trump. Trump’s natal Chiron and Juno (partner) are also at 14+ Libra, so both US progressed Moon + transiting Saturn in Capricorn square them too.

Transiting Jupiter, now moving direct at 14+ Sagittarius is sextile the US natal Saturn in Libra, and Trump’s Chiron + Juno so this is alleviating somewhat the Saturn-US prog. Moon pressure on US Saturn (+ Trump Chiron/Juno).

Even so, he is a wounded animal feeling cornered, and very dangerous; to himself and the rest of the world right now. I feel like there are forces (in the background) preparing for Trump’s next crazy move though.

On August 30, 2 weeks from now, a New Moon at 6 Virgo 46 (+ Mars, Venus, and + Mercury and Juno conjunct Transpluto also in Virgo conjunct the New Moon) will trine Uranus (surprise!) at 6 Taurus 28 rx. This New Moon will also conjunct Obama’s natal Pluto at 6 Virgo 58. The Cavalry is coming.

Politico reported the medical examiner’s ruling that Epstein’s death was suicide by hanging. Nevertheless, the question will remain whether he hung himself or somebody ‘helped’ him. Doubt will be around for a long time, methinks.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/16/medical-examiner-epstein-suicide-1466723

“Hunting Mogilevich’s crime syndicate is also THE case that puts the history of Donald Trump’s business “partnerships” into context. It explains why the #TrumpRussia investigation — from the FBI to the congressional committees — has shifted from counter-intelligence to CRIMINAL. It is the “WHAT” and the “WHY” that set us off on this journey.

It also answers what lurks beneath Trump’s flailing tweets, firing of Comey, and strategic undermining of the integrity of our independent press. It is the answer that sits at the core of the Special Prosecutor’s evidence, especially if Mueller indeed has his hands on Trump’s bank records and tax returns.”

https://t.co/O8nKXlqZBn

barbk – All of that Moon/ Saturn action points to sorrow of some kind for the American people (pr Moon), not just for Trump. And you will notice several days of a Sun/Mars conjunction in late August and early September (8/28 to 9/4), a few days of which are at 6 Virgo sextile tr Uranus, which is semisquare US Mars, thus a trigger. Violence (mass shooting, dramatic weather, big accident, explosion, etc.) plus sorrow of some kind. It is not quite simultaneous, but troubling enough during a pr Moon/Saturn aspect.

“Investigation into Epstein’s secret life was interrupted by his mysterious death. Leaked details of the autopsy report suggest Epstein was killed. Suicide seems less likely. Who is behind it? Is Bill Barr covering it up? Narativ’s independent journalism”

http://patreon.com/narativ .

Good video did listen to it. Good reporting.

I got rid of most of that series of comments. No use clogging up the thread.

Thank you so much Nancy, forewarned is forearmed.

There are many cycles that have an impact on our (the USA) present circumstances and I’ve been exploring the Saturn-Neptune cycle that began in 1989 with their 3 conjunctions in Capricorn (10 to 12 degrees), very near a T-square to the US Cancer Sun (13+ degree) and US Libra Saturn (14+ degree).

In fact at the time of their 1st conjunction, the Moon (people) at 14+ Capricorn was making a perfect T-square to the US Saturn and Sun square. She was where transiting Saturn and US prog. Moon are now.

This Saturn-Neptune conjunction (March 3, 1989) had the centaur Pholus conjunct the US natal Uranus at 8+ Gemini and the centaur Nessus conjunct the US natal Neptune at 22+ Virgo.

Both of these centaurs allude to multiple generations of ancestry and present ways to release one’s bondage to them. Because of this, and because Nessus and Pholus in this Saturn-Neptune cycle chart so directly connect with US natal outer planets, this cycle seems to say it is time for changing old habits/rules/dictates.

Thus Pholus (small cause begets big effect) conjunct US Uranus at the time of the Saturn-Neptune cycle appears to have brought us Trump.

Thus Nessus (abuse of power) conjunct US natal Neptune (which squares Trump’s natal Sun) has supplied us with abundant abuses.

Melanie Reinhart has a piece on the centaurs which I hope this link gets you to. Near the bottom of it is where you will find info on Nessus and Pholus.

melaniereinhart.com/melanie/astrologyarticles/chiron-and-centaurs.php

Oh well you can get there through Googling Astrology, Centaurs, Melanie Reinhart

https//melaniereinhart.com/melanie/astrologyarticles/chiron-and-centaurs.php

please, please work!

Starlight: Thanks.

Something lighthearted and charming for my fellow
poster’s.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GaseousTerrificKawala-size_restricted.gif

Thank you, Ja. That was very sweet, heartwarming & adorable.

When the US birthday took place last month, transiting Saturn (+ trans. South Node) and transiting Neptune were in a sextile, Saturn at 17+ Capricorn and Neptune at 18+ Pisces, both retrograde.

This is an aspect of cooperation and support, by position if not always by temperament. Saturn is a rule maker and a rule enforcer, while Neptune tends to disregard rules and go its merry way.

However they are a team in the US birthday chart called a Solar Return (SR), and this team will be in force for a whole year for the US. As luck would have it this Team of Saturn (+ South Node) and Neptune will call for sacrifices from the US People because the US Solar Return (SR) Moon (symbol of US People) in Leo completes a Yod with the Solar Return Neptune-Saturn sextile.

Both Neptune and Saturn will demand adjustments from Moon (People) in this chart because both Neptune and Saturn are quincunx the Leo Moon, which is an uncomfortable position for her.

She (the Moon aka the People) will be pushed and prodded to adjust because of repeated changes, but in the long run it will produce a better set of circumstances for all of us. That’s the whole point of a Yod. Change.

The US Solar Return (SR) Sun is (as always in a US Solar Return) square the US natal Saturn. However, this time around transiting Pallas (the Strategist) is at 14+ Libra and conjunct US Saturn. So, there is a plan (Pallas) in the making and it’s not sitting well (square) with US natal Cancer Sun.

In the meantime, the aforementioned SR Neptune in Pisces (who is sextile the Capricorn Saturn) is within orb of a trine with the SR (and US natal) Sun in Cancer, while SR Saturn (rules is rules) opposes the US Sun. And you know how Neptune is; he might pretend to, but he doesn’t always abide by the rules himself.

At the US Solar Return both Neptune and Saturn were retrograde and they have maintained their sextile (fragile though it may be) throughout the following months until in September when Saturn will station direct, and at 13+ Capricorn, will take some time to oppose US natal and Solar Return Sun at 13+ Cancer. September 18 is a day to watch and remember (transiting North Node will also be about to conjunct US Sun).

Meanwhile, the Yod between SR Saturn sextile SR Neptune, continues to pressure this SR Moon in creative Leo. I believe trans. Saturn (opposite US Sun), along with trans. Neptune (trine US Sun), symbolizes the Trump administration. I believe Neptune is working both sides of the fence (SR Saturn which Neptune sextiles and natal US + SR Sun which Neptune trines).

Neptune provides the leaks from the White House and others you see. This is why nobody can believe anything or anybody, and it’s probably just as well.

Here’s the part that I’ve only just begun to grasp, which is that SR Moon at 21+ Leo sextiles US natal Mars at 21+ Gemini (known for talking out of both sides of its mouth) which conjuncts Trump’s Sun, which in turn squares US Neptune at 22+ Virgo, which trines the US SR Pluto at 22+ Capricorn, which is at the apex of a Yod with the sextile between the SR Leo Moon and the US Gemini Mars+Trump Sun.

Don’t even try to untangle this. We are under a Neptune spell of confusion while the gods and goddesses of astrology (and the higher powers of the Universe) rectify the US (and that of other countries of the world) governmental chaos brought about by greed and abuse of power.

Trump is merely a tool of the higher powers. He serves as a distractive focus (and he’s damn good at it) and he is a pawn of the gods and goddesses.

These absolutely essential changes in the structures (Saturn) of US society must be torn down and rebuilt (Pluto) for purposes we aren’t (as yet) ready to comprehend.

The US People will be guided (in a weird way) to elect a new US President who will transition the US away from its past and toward its new identity, which will take at least a full Jupiter-Saturn cycle for the world to comprehend.

The new December 2020 Jupiter-Saturn cycle has Uranus (breakthroughs) conjunct the US South Node (no longer serves growth) and Pluto opposite US Mercury (how we communicate and think) and Neptune T-square the North and South Nodes in this chart for the start of the 20 year cycle between Jupiter and Saturn.

Instead of being the leader of the world, the US will become a Team player (Jupiter and Saturn in Aquarius). There will be a focus on equality (Jupiter-Saturn sextile Juno, which by the way forms a Yod to Eliz. Warren’s natal Sun-Uranus.)

This chaos, much to our chagrin, serves a purpose, and from chaos comes new creativity. Some day we all will look back at this time and marvel at how it all turned out.

BarbK, I can’t begin to follow your astrological data but I do feel better reading that there is astrological support for what Kim Carey and Linda G have been saying and said again this week. Your optimistic outlook is what we all need to get us through the rough times still ahead.

Thank you

The Bottom Line: Investigating Jeffrey Epstein, Money Trumps Sex

“The Republican base doesn’t care about sex crimes — unless they involve the Clintons, that is. Serial rapist Donald Trump is their standard-bearer. They have proudly run Roy Moore, a grown man who was barred from his local mall for accosting middle-school girls. They have rallied around Brett “Devil’s Triangle” Kavanaugh. Not only do they not believe women, they actively seek to destroy them, as state legislatures have demonstrated in George, Alabama, Ohio, Missouri, and elsewhere. It is unlikely that these rank misogynists will be swayed by the dalliances of the late Jeffrey Epstein, however deplorable, unless they somehow implicate Bill Clinton. When the subject of Donald Trump’s history of sexual assault is brought up, the 20+ credible accusers, the “grab ’em by the pussy,” MAGA invariably responds with: Bill Clinton was worse — as if the shameful misbehavior of one rich, famous, powerful man somehow absolves that of another.”

Trump wants us to be afraid. Fear creates panic, which impairs judgment. Trump also wants to exhaust our sense of outrage. The Hitlerian policy of separating refugee children from their parents, and detaining all in cages, is intended, first and foremost, to tire us all out to the point of lethargy, resignation, inactivity. There are limits to how much moral outrage a people can summon. On Twitter, one sees occasional calls for protests, for “people in the streets.” There may come a point when that happens, but for now, everyone is too tired, and too able to see the futility of such an endeavor: Fox News won’t show it, and the House Democrats keep firing off impotent letter after impotent letter as Trump’s minions snub subpoenas and he brings his feckless, hapless grifter daughter to world leader summits. Yes, I know, Pelosi and Nadler are playing the long game with the courts, as Mueller did before them, but the hourglass is running out of red-white-and-blue sand. As Roberto Bolaño writes in The Savage Detectives, a novel about renegade Mexican poets, “There’s a time for reciting poems, and there’s a time for fists. As far as I was concerned, this was the latter.”

https://t.co/szoGQYodXO

“1 Future trump speeches & rallies should be called “The Farewell Tour.” The thing about trump’s dementia that’s difficult for ppl to grasp is- It steadily worsens. What ppl see in 3, 6, 9 months will be far worse than today. He’s had multiple foundations crumble- w/ more coming

2 trump is a unique case. His med info is hidden & distorted. He won’t get a neurological exam bc he knows it’s a one way ride from the WH. There are no a medical baselines to compare, like yr over yr MRIs or work ups. There is a ton of behavioral & video evidence of his decline

3. After Trump’s bogus physical, we had to factor in treachery, coverup & the question of how bad does trump have to get b4 the coverup of his health would fail. In many ways, history was changed that day. trump should have been removed. Instead, trump’s team has been living a lie

5 Moving Part 1- trump’s condition progressively worsens-severely of late. Lashing out. Repeating parts & getting lost during speeches. Yelling & projecting violence on people & places like Afghanistan. It won’t stop. He’s on schedule. Estimated Prognosis:”

(much more at the link)

https://twitter.com/TomJChicago/status/1161395283571425280

“Desiderata

Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible without surrender
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons,
they are vexations to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs;
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals;
and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself.
Especially, do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love;
for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment
it is as perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline,
be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe,
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be,
and whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful.
Strive to be happy. ”

Max Ehrmann, Desiderata, Copyright 1952.

Ah yes, Desiderata. My favorite. Thank you Angellight.

Elisabeth Grace:

” Talking heads in the media were saying that it wouldn’t be surprising if a recession kicked in 18-24 months later, as apparently it has done before. I wouldn’t be surprised either, as in 18-24 months, we’ll have transiting Saturn in Aquarius square Uranus in Taurus. I’m not a financial astrologer, but I have observed in the past that hard aspects between Saturn and Uranus coincide with bubbles bursting.”

http://www.graceastrology.com/category/daily-forecast/

Bailey, thanks for your encouragement. I never minimize the work ahead but work IS work, not death and doom and the sky is falling. It just looks that way.

Have you seen any of the MSNBC series American Swamp? Tonight they expose how the Democratic and Republican parties require members of Congress to raise money (for their party) in order to become a chairman of a committee. This began long before Trump came to Washington.

Who knew that? Raising enough money (more than your fellow congress men and women) buys you a chairmanship of a committee? Good grief.

All this needs to be exposed to as much of America as possible. To my mind that’s the job of Pluto and Saturn and Ceres (+Sun+Mercury) opposite US NATAL Mercury, coming in January, 2020, to a theater near you.

Here’s why I love this chart (Saturn-Pluto):

1. Moon (people) in Leo sextiles Juno (partner) in Libra that forms a Yod to Neptune in Pisces. Neptune must adjust.

2. Neptune in Pisces is semi-square (stimulates) Uranus in Taurus, and Uranus is in a grand trine with Pholus in Cap and Transpluto (the process of becoming whole) in Virgo.

3. Saturn and Pluto (+ Ceres, Sun, Mercury) in Capricorn are trine the US NATAL Neptune (that sextiles US NATAL Mercury) in Virgo that trines the start point of the Jupiter-Saturn cycle (about societies) in Taurus, which will still be in effect through the whole of 2020. US NATAL Neptune, the old Jupiter-Saturn cycle, the new Saturn-Pluto cycle in a grand trine. Nothing will stop it for at least one year.

4. US NATAL Mercury in Cancer opposes the Saturn-Pluto conjunction which turns the grand trine into a Kite pattern. This opposition must must be resolved and when that is done the grand trine goes into action.

5. Venus in Aquarius (conjunct US Moon aka US People) sextiles Pallas the Planner in Sagittarius (conjunct the Galactic Center) and they form a Yod to the US Constitution Signing chart’s Uranus in Cancer. The Constitution Uranus must adjust.

6. This cycle coincides with the Great American Pluto Return, exact in 2022.

This is a (divine) plan to clean up the swamp that is Washington DC (and probably all the other swamps in other governments). It will probably take all 33 years of this cycle between Saturn and Pluto to git her done, but we here on Earth in the USA, right now, will have started the process with our own two hands. Makes me proud to be an American!

Sharon K: Welcome. Desiderata Mine too; inspirational and so true.

Barb: Yes, part of the divine plan to clean up the dark dredges of the astral and etheric planes;

Angellight,

““1 Future trump speeches & rallies should be called “The Farewell Tour.””

Wicked funny!

“The 1619 Project is a major initiative from The New York Times observing the 400th anniversary of the beginning of American slavery. It aims to reframe the country’s history, understanding 1619 as our true founding, and placing the consequences of slavery and the contributions of black Americans at the very center of the story we tell ourselves about who we are..”

“The United States is a nation founded on both an ideal and a lie. Our Declaration of Independence, approved on July 4, 1776, proclaims that “all men are created equal” and “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights.” But the white men who drafted those words did not believe them to be true for the hundreds of thousands of black people in their midst. “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” did not apply to fully one-fifth of the country. Yet despite being violently denied the freedom and justice promised to all, black Americans believed fervently in the American creed. Through centuries of black resistance and protest, we have helped the country live up to its founding ideals. And not only for ourselves — black rights struggles paved the way for every other rights struggle, including women’s and gay rights, immigrant and disability rights.”

https://t.co/qHgQnZlH70

Will: Yes, wicked funny, but I sure hope there is some truth to what he is saying. Trump is saying more and more deranged things and the lies, you can’t keep up. It is a hellish, freakish show.

Marjorie has a new post on the odious stephen miller (dark lord sith in training?)
https://star4cast.com/stephen-miller-pulling-trumps-strings/

Folks,
This is very frustrating. I have to postpone my trip home by several more days. I was hoping to be home by my birthday, August 19th, but it is not to be. I’ll let you all know when I actually do leave, and keep you posted.

Eliseo,

So sorry to hear about your delay. I’m sure your greatly disappointed, especially not being home in time to be with family to bring in your new year. I’d like to think that perhaps the universe is protecting you in some way from something, keeping you off the road over the days you had planned to travel, as there are many prayers and well wishes for your trip.
I do hope that whatever is keeping you at the very least goes smoothly for you and you are on the road home as soon as possible, with no further delays!

Newscope:

When this chart is set for the U.S. financial center in New York (1:20 pm EST), a startling pattern jumps out: Uranus is conjunct Black Moon Lilith, and both are exactly conjunct the Taurus Ascendant. Plus, both are squaring the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction with an orb of 6º, close enough to bring plenty of surprising financial developments around the time of this major astro-event. Uranus brings unsettling events, and all the more so with Lilith tightly in the mix.

https://www.neptunecafe.com/newsscope.html

It is difficult, to say the least, to separate the effects of the transiting Saturn-transiting Pluto cycle start (Jan, 12, 2020) from the exact US Pluto-transiting Saturn cycle start ( 3 conjunctions in 2020, in Feb., Aug., Nov.), but the January 12, 2020 cycle will affect the whole world in a direct way, while the trans. Saturn to US Pluto is ours alone, although it will indirectly affect other countries.

As only the gods and goddesses could concoct, the brand new trans. Jupiter-trans. Saturn cycle (a cycle addressing societal issues) will start in December, 2020. It will be the Year-to-Remember, 2020.

Part of the worldly cycle (all countries) of trans. Saturn-Pluto is the addition of trans. Ceres into their conjunction and this will most certainly address the global warming issues, but also the women’s equality issues too.

Then there is the trans. Jupiter conjunct trans. Saturn cycle chart that begins at 0 Aquarius 29 on 12/21/20 at 1:22 PM, which has Ceres at 8 Pisces 57 that conjuncts the US natal Ceres at 8 Pisces 41, so yes this transiting Jupiter-Saturn cycle, a cycle about societies which will affect all nations, highlights the US natal Ceres. Why would that be?

The US natal Ceres Return (the start of a cycle about 4+ years long), when transiting Ceres conjuncts the US natal Ceres, takes place on 12/20/20 at 2:55 PM, less than 24 hours ahead of the Jupiter-Saturn cycle starts. In both of these cycles’ charts the major plants are in the same degrees except for Moon, Mercury and Sun.

In the US CERES RETURN chart Mercury and Sun are at 29+ Sagittarius and Moon is at 16+ Pisces conjunct Neptune at 18+ Pisces which opposes Vesta (what is invested in) at 18+ Virgo. This opposition makes a grand cross with the North node (19+ Sagittarius) and South Node (19+ Gemini.

I take from this Moon placement in the CERES RETURN chart that women will influence an important decision (Neptune T-square Nodes) during this Ceres cycle (through 2024). That decision will likely be about climate change.

The next day, after the US natal Ceres Return, the 20 year cycle between Jupiter and Saturn begins. This time the Moon is at 27+ Pisces (square the Galactic Center) and the Sun is at 0+ Capricorn and conjunct Mercury at 1+ Capricorn.

This is what I find fascinating about this JUPITER-SATURN chart. The Sun-Mercury in Cap are half-way between Juno (partner) at 0+ Sagittarius and the Jupiter-Saturn at 0+ Aquarius. Because Elizabeth Warren’s natal Sun and Uranus at 0+ Cancer . . .

. . . are opposed the Sun (consciousness) Mercury (communicate) in the 20 year cycle chart of Jupiter-Saturn . . .

. . . and because Jupiter-Saturn (societies) sextiles Juno (partners) and all of them form a quincunx with Warren’s Sun-Uranus, it is technically a Yod formation. This will force Warren’s Sun-Uranus to adjust.

Because this chart’s Sun-Mercury opposes Warren’s Sun-Uranus, the Yod now becomes a Boomerang, and that means the Sun-Mercury in the new JUPITER-SATURN cycle receives all the combined energies of the Yod, i.e. the Jupiter-Saturn (societies), the Juno (partners) and the Warren Sun-Uranus (Sun = consciousness, Uranus = breakthroughs).

Therefore the Sun (consciousness) and Mercury (communicate) in this new JUPITER-SATURN (December, 2020) cycle are tasked with making the world’s societies conscious of something and communicating about it.

I believe Elizabeth Warren will (as President or VP or whatever title she assumes) will have a plan to begin the world-wide effort to stop ecological destruction before it destroys the planet. Nevertheless, she persisted!

PS: Warren’s natal Ceres is at 2+ Virgo (where transiting Transpluto is now) and her Ceres conjuncts her natal Saturn at 1+ Virgo, and both will trine transiting Uranus at 2+ Taurus in the SATURN-PLUTO cycle start (Jan 12, 2020).

Warren’s Virgo Saturn-Ceres will also trine Sun-Mercury in Capricorn in the Jupiter-Saturn cycle start (December 21, 2020). She’s probably already working on this.

well, well, well, its about time. Too little too late though? we shall see.
“Group of top CEOs says maximizing shareholder profits no longer can be the primary goal of corporations”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/19/lobbying-group-powerful-ceos-is-rethinking-how-it-defines-corporations-purpose/?wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

From the Atlantic, a good article on Pelosi and impeachment:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/06/pelosi-impeachment-trump-clinton/591652/

Happy happy birthday Eliseo! May your new year be filled with joy!
Take comfort that, even waiting, can bring forth amazing gifts born of quiet reflective moments. xxx

Eliseo,

What Elizabeth and kiwi said.

Beowulfie and kiwi,

Great articles. Thanks for posting.

barbk,

Wondering if Ceres in that mix portends an issue with crop failures and food shortages – and if that Neptunian influence could point to problems with flooding and/or drinkable H2O

just musing.

will, will, will!

We live (at least for now) in a 3 Dimensional world, which means polarized vision of good-bad, beautiful-ugly, old-young, smart-stupid. That is changing, and when it does we won’t look at things in an either-or way.

I would say that yes, Ceres, in order to raise consciousness within a given societal sphere could symbolically manifest as crop failures and food shortages and a lack or surplus of water. It wouldn’t have to be catastrophic to make a point that if Humanity does not change its ways the Earth will die. Simple as.

A more positive manifestation of Ceres would be an increased awareness of how nurturing our planet would create an abundance of crops and food supplies.

Ceres in league with the Saturn-Pluto cycle seems to me to be pushing Humanity towards greater awareness of cause and effect in this 30+ year cycle. Saturn = patterns and form, Pluto = transformation, Ceres = nature. Together their message looks to be about transforming human patterns regarding the body of Earth.

To me this is a cycle in which all 3 outer planets are driving home a message; Pluto conjuncts Saturn + Ceres, Sun and Mercury, all in Capricorn; says hard work can bring about success.

Uranus (breakthroughs) in this cycle is in Taurus and participates in a grand trine with Pholus (a small cause can reap huge effects) in Capricorn, and Transpluto (the process of becoming whole) in Virgo, a pattern which also pounds home the earth emphasis in this cycle.

Neptune in Pisces is at the apex of a Yod in this Saturn-Pluto cycle, with Moon in Leo who sextiles Juno in Libra. This configuration has a definite feminine vibe; a push toward less aggression perhaps. It is asking, no, it’s insisting that Neptune make an adjustment. Neptune is semi-square Uranus and Uranus is in a grand trine with Transpluto and Pholus.

With Neptune under pressure to adjust, and being semi-square Uranus, it might manifest as an eruption of some kind (oil pipeline? floodwall gives way?), causing the Uranus-Transpluto-Pholus (a small cause erupts bigtime?) grand trine to garner some much needed compassion from and for human beings.

This could create another opportunity to move away from the aggressive masculine approach toward Earth and move toward a more feminine nurturing approach. Think solar panels instead of oil rigs.

I see Ceres as participating in educating we ignorant humans about our shared resources; how to not waste them and how to recycle them. If we (as a whole) don’t learn now – in the next 2 decades – there will be nothing left to share.

Eliseo- a very happy birthday to you. I am so sorry for your delay but a great new beginning is waiting when you get there!
(p.s. my birthday is the 21st, so I know how really sloggy these last two years have been. But it IS starting to feel better at least I think so, not quite so impossibly sticky) Only wonderful and more wonderful from now on…

Happy Birthday to two special people – my buddy, Eliseo, and a very important member of our group , Henri. May the coming years be very good to you and bless you with good health, love, joy, happiness, accomplishment & success!

barb k, barb k, barb k,

Thank you, thank you thank you!

new article from Raye Robertson
https://www.diaryofamundaneastrologer.net/2019/08/time-to-get-real-astrology-of-2020.html

“The average American likes meat, sports, money, porn, cars, cartoons, and shopping. Less popular: socialism, privilege-checking, and the world ending in 10 years. Ironically, perhaps because of Trump, Democratic Party rhetoric in 2020 is relentlessly negative about the American experience. Every speech is a horror story about synagogue massacres or people dying without insulin or atrocities at the border. Republicans who used to complain about liberals “apologizing for America” were being silly, but 2020 Democrats sound like escapees from the Killing Fields.
Ronald Reagan once took working-class voters away from Democrats by offering permission to be proud of the flag. Trump offers permission to occupy the statistical American mean: out of shape, suffering from gas, poorly read, anti-intellectual, treasuring things above meaning, and hiding an awful credit history.
Trump in this way is more all-American than Mark Spitz, Liberace, Oprah, Audie Murphy, and Marilyn Monroe. He’s a monument to the consumption economy. He represents fake boobs, the short con, the tall tale, gas guzzlers, and a hundred other American traditions.
This is why the endless chronicling of Trump’s lies does little to dent his popularity. Trump’s voters don’t need to read PolitiFact to see what Trump’s about. They see it in his waistline. Few politicians in history have revealed what they are to voters more than Trump. Christ, we even know what the man’s penis looks like.
“The cool thing about Trump,” says 38-year-old Cincinnati native Jeremy Holtkamp, “is that it’s just about being an American.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/taibbi-trump-2020-be-very-afraid-872299/

Thanks kiwi. Raye Robertson has an ascendant for the Saturn-Pluto conjunction in Aries, making the ruler of the Chart Mars in Sagittarius in the 8th house.

The chart I’m using for this conjunction has Taurus on the ascendant and Venus is the chart ruler in the 11th house,conjunct US Moon in Aquarius. Both charts use Washington DC for location.

Amazing what a few minutes difference can make in what a chart can tell you. I use serrenu . com to get my planet positions (down to the second), then use alabe . com for location, matching its moon position to the serrenu Moon information.

The basics are the same for the planets degrees, although her chart’s Moon, for example, is in the 4th house and my chart’s Moon is in the 5th. That could really make a difference.

These kinds of things can affect how one reads a chart and I wonder how much disparity there is between the producers of astrological ephemeris material. Who can you trust for Pete’s sake?

Anyway, I’m glad to be aware of what she, Raye Robertson, sees and why she sees it. Thanks again kiwi.

BarbK, another wonderful analysis. Thank you.

It seems pretty far-fetched right now but I can see a possible Biden-Warren ticket for the Dems in 2020.

I base it on 2 points in the US natal chart which they both have links to. One is the US natal North Node (the path forward) and the other is the US natal Uranus ((breakthroughs).

The US natal North Node at 6+ Leo is conjunct Warren’s natal Pallas (the Planner) also at 6+ Leo, while Biden’s natal Pluto is at 7+ Leo. Transiting Uranus is now square the US North Node.

The US NATAL Uranus at 8+ Gemini is where Warren’s natal Mars is too, with her natal Mercury at 10+ Gemini near by.

Biden’s natal Saturn is at 9+ Gemini and not too far from his own natal Uranus at 2+ Gemini.

Biden’s Moon at 0+ Taurus squares Warren’s Uranus at 0+ Aquarius but trines her natal Saturn (1+ Virgo) and Ceres (2+ Virgo). Biden’s natal (true) node is at 0+ Virgo too. Warren’s Moon is also in Taurus, probably around 12 to 16 degrees.

Biden’s was born in 1942 and Warren was born in 1949, so, while not a match made in heaven (or is it?), they do come from the same post WW2 years and can relate from that stand point.

He’s a Scorpio and she’s a Cancer, so that should help; they both are sensitive to emotional issues like mass murder, caged children, etc.

The more I think about it the more it seems like a no-brainer. Was it Bob and/or Jerry or someone else, Andre maybe, that has said the 2020 President-elect will be a one-termer, while the 2024 President-elect’s term is where the dramatic change takes place.

So let’s say Biden decides not to run for a 2nd term (age or whatever) in 2023 and VP Warren is unchallenged for the Dem nominee. That (IMO) is not far-fetched. Baby steps so to speak.

What do you think?

Thanks Bailey; I’m on a roll because it’s way too hot to go outdoors and do chores (grocery, etc.) so I’m playing inside (with a clear conscience!) with some ideas. Really appreciate your support!

oops . .Warren’s natal Jupiter (not Uranus) is at 0+ Aquarius.

Barbk, I have had the same thought – a Biden Warren ticket which could also explain why the real changes begin after 2024 when Warren become the president.

Biden/Warren sounds like a good ticket. But can they overcome their history?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/03/12/biden-vs-warren-2020-democratic-primaries-bankruptcy-bill-225728

After Biden/Warren 2020, how about Warren/Yang 2024?

Some of us are old enought to remember Kennedy/Johnson – they hated each other when Kennedy chose Johnson as his running mate.

Thanks for the Bankruptcy Bill story Nancy, makes me all the more aware of the sleaze that thrives in Washington DC. I would imagine it would be very difficult for Warren to get past her resentment of Biden, perhaps the reverse is true too. Still, Anita Hill seemed to soften her attitude toward Biden in due time.

But, if Warren and Biden COULD get past their differences; if all the polls next Spring were to look similar to now, the black voters and older voters of all color could have their sense of security (if Biden was the Dem nominee for Pres), and Progressives and many women could see a woman (almost any women would do), at least as the VP on the Dem ticket, and Trump was still alive and in office . .

But who knows where we will be in May, 2020? After the Saturn-Pluto cycle begins, after however many more mass murders will have taken place, or if Mother Nature has destroyed the homes of many US citizens, or people have lost their money in the stock market, or whatever else could devastate voters, who will US citizens, those who will vote at least, feel could make their lives better?

It’s a guessing game right now. Based on old astrology tales, the winner of a US Presidency had to have a major aspect, preferably a conjunction trine or sextile, to the US natal Moon (27+ Aquarius). If so, that would be Kamala Harris, with a natal Saturn conjunct US Moon and a natal Sun trine the US Moon, and a natal Moon sextile the US Moon. This too could happen; Harris polls might soar come next Spring.

But that is not a reliable test at all. All we can do is play with the possibilities and today I played with the charts of Biden and Warren because I had the time, and it was fun!

Here’s one for you Will
– written by H L Mencken in 1920’s
“As democracy is perfected, the office of President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

https://allthatsinteresting.com/hl-mencken-quotes

BarbK: Thanks for the comment you make: “Based on old astrology tales, the winner of a US Presidency had to have a major aspect, preferably a conjunction trine or sextile, to the US natal Moon (27+ Aquarius).

It makes me wonder if a ‘formula’ like that can work in the age of the internet, with its media frenzies and hate campaigns. I think the premise is that aspects to US Moon mean the winner should be ‘the people’s choice’ candidate. Now, it is so uncertain just whose choice is being made! The US Moon alone is probably not enough – the easy and popular sextile and trine aspects won’t cut it by themselves, imo.

As for Kamala Harris, I think she leans in the opposite direction because her natal Saturn conjunct US Moon indicates a cool, distant, not very positive relationship. She would need a relationship with the public at large that is at least positive enough for the majority of voters to elect her as President. It looks rather the opposite.

The Saturn, apart from its basic executive nature (which fits the Presidency well, in ‘normal’ times), could indicate that her connection to US Moon is hampered, somehow restricted, and perhaps not very welcome. It doesn’t indicate she has a lot of charisma with the people. I’m not saying she isn’t a smart candidate or couldn’t do a good job, but her appeal to voters may be quite limited.

In addition to the above, it’s possible, though, that Kamala Harris could somehow tip the nomination to someone else – that fits the executive Saturn connection to US Moon better. The decider, the one who brings her supporters to another front runner (at the convention?). I just don’t think that Saturn will give her enough mass appeal. It’s such a harsh planet, even when it may have earned and deserves success. The connection to the powers that be in the party also has to be there for the Moon aspect to be backed up. Just my thoughts….

IN THE ERA OF TRUMP

“A Nazi sympathizer who threatened to butcher a Hispanic woman and boasted that President Trump would wipe out nonwhites in a “racial war and crusade” was arrested on charges of making threats, the F.B.I. said on Tuesday. Prosecutors said that the suspect, Eric Lin, 35, sent a barrage of chilling and gruesome Facebook messages to the unidentified woman, who lives in Miami. Mr. Lin was arrested on Friday in Seattle, where he had recently moved from Clarksburg, Md., but was charged in Miami.

“This is a RACE WAR and ALL of you will DIE!” Mr. Lin wrote to the woman on Facebook in early June, according to a criminal complaint. The next day, he wrote, “You want to see what a real Nazi can do?” adding later that he was operating under the authority of Hitler. In July, he wrote that “I thank God everyday President Donald John Trump is President and that he will launch a Racial War and Crusade.”

https://t.co/0zi5Pvjxc5

Beowulfie, it is an intriguing “theory” about the US natal Moon needing an astrological connection to a person’s birth chart in order to become the US presidency, I checked at least 8 former US presidents and only 2 had an exact conjunction (27+ Aquarius) of something in their birth chart to the US Moon; FDR and Obama. All the rest had something in their chart within orb of an aspect to the US Moon, even if it was only a semi-sextile, like Kennedy and Bush Jr.

As for a person’s Saturn conjunct US Moon, like Kamala Harris (who also has a Sun trine US Moon, + a Moon sextile US Moon) it could represent strength and protection as well as distance and restriction, don’t you think? Some people really need and want that in a leader.

I agree with you that the days of the winner of the US Presidency being the People’s choice are no longer a certainty, alas. But think about this; when chaos is all around us, who better than Saturn to restore order?

The Jews are not loyal to the state.” — Adolf Hitler

“Any Jew that votes Democrat is disloyal.” — Donald Trump

https://twitter.com/rmayemsinger/status/1164042956208136192

“In the past 24 hours, Donald Trump…

– Had a tantrum because Denmark wouldn’t sell Greenland to him; – Accused Google of changing 16 Million votes; and

– Claimed to be the “King of Israel” and the “second coming of God.”

…If he wasn’t president, he’d be put in the loony bin.

https://twitter.com/TranslateRealDT/status/1164166536396976139

“March for Our Lives launched a massive gun control plan Wednesday aimed at kicking off a youth voting surge in 2020.

David Hogg tweeted: “Policymakers have failed, so survivors are stepping up.”

https://t.co/y4ECNBidEc

Ralfee Finn:

“Expect to feel an undeniable need to break free from whatever you know or imagine holds you hostage to habits and patterns that no longer serve. Uranus, the Grand Master of innovation, emits a clarion call for freedom this week, and the power of its revolutionary voice is impossible to resist.”

https://aquariumage.com/Weekly_Frequency/

Good one ja, thanks for the Uranus heads up.

Speaking of transiting Uranus, it will be conjunct David Hogg’s natal chart’s stellium in Taurus (Jupiter-Mars-Saturn), from May, 2021 through March, 2023. He will be 21 in 2021.

Thanks Angellight for the March For Our Lives info.

David Hogg has all 3 of his natal chart’s outer planets, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, connecting to the US natal astrology. His Pluto conjuncts the US natal chart ascendant, his natal Neptune conjuncts the US natal South Node (what needs to stop) and his natal Moon is on or near the US natal North Node (follow this path).

Also, David’s natal Uranus conjuncts the US progressed Mercury, which conjuncts the 2000 Jupiter-Saturn cycle’s Uranus (which squared Jupiter and Saturn).

It appears that the Uranus-square-Jupiter/Saturn of 2000, a cycle start that would involve, among other challenges, violence against societies, at least in the USA. It appears that David Hogg is here (on Earth in the US) to do something about that.

barbk, yes, the young people give me much hope.

kiwi,

Re: H.L. Mencken,

Nailed it!

I am so sick of the gun gaslighting arguments and the media falls for it everytime. It astounds me why someone does not reframe the argument away from guns towards the bullets. Ban bullets – 2nd amendment does not mention bullets. Change ‘guns don’t pull the trigger’ to “guns don’t kill people, bullets do”

Bob, I have hoped you were right about your read that Trump will leave by the end of the year. But not sure we can last that long. It is beyond nuts as now Trump thinks he is the Chosen One and is invoking Hitler in saying Jews are not loyal.

Jay Inslee is out of the race. Sigh.

I feel sad about that, Barb.

Here’s snippets from on interview with him from Rachel’s show tonight.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/politics/jay-inslee-drops-out-of-race/index.html

I would hope that all who will eventually gain the title of ‘also rans’ for the presidential office, will not remain on the sidelines, but will become super active in the multitude of representative elections across the country. Way too much focus is given to just the presidency in election publicity. And the current title holder is showing the supreme folly of that playbook.

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