26th Oct, 2018

Election Musings and Beyond

As we watch in paralyzing horror, Donald Trump is cavalierly trampling over the soul of America. On a minute by minute basis, he conjures up whatever narrative suits his personal need, any adherence to fact or rationality be damned. Ultimately, the story is always the same. He and his followers are the victims, while any aggression perpetrated on those who criticize or are simply used as scapegoats is justified. If the attack turns to violence or leaves people homeless or starving or orphaned, well, it is collateral damage left in the wake of the grandiose posturing and the cruel combativeness that is Donald Trump.

In a little over a week, America will go to the polls and vote in the Midterm elections. Normally, this would bring huge losses to the party in power, as the country moves to bring balance back into the political equation. But these are not normal times. Emanating from the White House since the inception of this administration and poisonously seeping into the body politic of the nation is a toxic spew of endless lies and viciousness that seem utterly without precedent. As the election nears, it is hard to trust the wisdom of the citizenry when many are in thrall to a psychopathic con man.

Astrologically, it is very hard to get a clear picture of what is ahead. I see no consistent picture of misery from the Democratic side that I would expect if we lost both Houses of Congress. Nor do I see a resounding celebration that would point to a huge win. Indeed, there seems to be enough indication of some positive results that I do believe we will take the House back from the GOP, though likely not the Senate.

As for El Loco himself, there are some conflicting indicators. On the one hand, there is a Saturn transit square to his Neptune (5Libra57), from November 1 to November 11, which points to disappointed expectations or even delusions shattered. This seems likely to be about the dissolution of Trump’s Red Wave fantasy. Additionally, the Saturn transit will be simultaneously opposite US Jupiter (5Cancer56) and might therefore also bring unfortunate economic news or another contraction in the Stock Market during this same period.

Of concern to those of us who fear the unrestrained and unhinged attitude of the current resident of the Oval Office, there are other planetary indicators that point to a happy and contented attitude during November, as well as some over-optimistic and expansionist tendencies during early 2019, through May. In November 2018, transiting Jupiter will be square to Trump’s Ascendant (29Leo55) from November 3 through November 7, pointing to strong optimism, contentment, and possibly a lack of judgement in his actions. This will be immediately followed by the transiting Venus station square to natal Venus (25Cancer44) from November 7 to November 21, suggesting that Trump feels surrounded by friends who appreciate him. Moreover, the Mars transit opposite his Mars (26Leo46) and Ascendant covering from November 8 through November 10 and November 13 to November 15, respectively, suggest some very aggressive actions at that time. It seems quite likely that a number of firings and other dramatic actions will come immediately after the election, and Trump will be gloating as it all unfolds.

Disgraceful Donald does run into some brief frustrations and trouble in early December when Saturn makes its final crossing opposite his Mercury (8Cancer52), from December 1 through December 11. But it is 2019 that we must watch carefully. With Jupiter moving into Sagittarius after the election, it will move to oppose Trump’s Sun (22Gemini55) and his Node (20Gemini48), as well as conjunct his Moon (21Sagittarius12) three times each in 2019.  The first period of this multiple transit covers from February 12 to March 11, followed soon thereafter by the second crossing from April 26 to May 31.  Jupiter tends to bring expansionist tendencies and extreme confidence to the point of recklessness.

Of profound concern to us as Americans is the first crossing of the Pluto transit quincunx Trump’s Sun from February 10 to May 26 added to the already overconfident Jupiter period. Pluto aspecting the Sun brings an exaggerated sense of power struggle into the mix, and when combined with such strong Jupiter energy, especially from March 1 to March 11 and April 26 to May 10, 2019, we may see a megalomania that knows no bounds. If ever there was a planetary combination that might lead to an ill-conceived war, this would be it. The fact that it is followed from mid-June to early September 2019 with minor hard aspects from both Uranus (6Taurus) and Pluto (21Capricorn) to US Mars (21Gemini13), suggests that the Commander in Chief of the US Armed forces may push us heedlessly (Jupiter/Sun/Pluto) into a conflict we neither need nor want nor will easily prosecute. The Saturn station from July 29 to October 22, 2019, square to US Saturn (14Libra48) points to some kind of national humiliation and a much harder challenge than earlier considered. It may also be that this unforgivable mess conceived of by Trump and his minions will be the beginning of the end of his unlamented reign. But, unfortunately, at great cost to all of us.

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I think we’re all in a funk. The closer the election gets, the more I worry about the outcome and how we can handle living in a country where people are so ugly and easily fooled.

From the last thread: caught the birthdate for the bombing suspect, from MSNBC: 3/17/62. No birthplace.

El Loco is a cruel, sadistic, shiftless, grifter, con man, criminal (e.g., never pays taxes),nasty animal. Give him/it not a millimeter – he would punish you all mercilessly given the chance. Actually he already is punishing all decent people.

But his time is almost up imho.

I should mention that after 9/11/2001 tr Pluto was quincunx US Sun and Jupiter was conjunct it. The mood after 9/11 in the country was that we were the lone superpower and could do anything. No one could mess with us and not be punished. Needless to say, we were not the great superstars in Afghanistan and Iraq that we thought we would be. I am concerned with this combo in Trump’s chart in 2019. And with Bolton as the Trump whisperer, it seems like a dangerous combo to me.


“According to his Facebook page, Cesar Sayoc, 56, is from Brooklyn, New York. He grew up in Florida, where he attended North Miami Beach Senior High and has been registered to vote in Miami-Dade as a Republican since 2012. Federal sources said Sayoc lived in Aventura at the time of his arrest.”

A noon chart for Sayoc shows potential for him to be a hothead; natal Uranus/Pluto midpoint at 157°30′ opposed by natal Mars at 336°31′. Today transiting Neptune at 345°35′ was opposite his natal Pluto at 165°24′.

Plantation, FL, where Cesar Sayoc was arrested, is also home to astrology debunker James Randi (August 7, 1928 – 90 yrs), a registered Democrat.

We share your funk. We appreciate your wisdom and fortitude to bring us your astro-vision so much. As I appreciate Bob and Barb and the other visionaries who share their talents with us.

The bomb terror Trump supporter is a Native American who claims to be from the Seminole tribe as reported by the dailymail.com site.

Thank you, Nancy, for checking in on this and giving us a dose of honesty and realism. Getting the house would be a very good thing. I also expect us to get some governorships.

I want to point out something that’s begun to gnaw at me recently, that I’ve already mentioned here. I have recently begun to wake up to the cohesiveness of the group who follow Q-Annon and who accept as truth the worldview the there is a deep state, very corrupt, who the Clintons, Bushes, Obamas were part of, and, of course, the “Liberals”, and that these people were on the verge of destroying our democracy. Trump was “chosen” by the military to run and save us. There is a lot about this in the airwaves but it is somewhat underground, I think. I have a friend who accepts all this (it also involves Pizzagate, human trafficking, satonism, the Rothchilds, etc.) and has sent me the youtubes from some of the leaders & gatekeepers. It is an alternate reality and I have no idea who is feeding it but it’s been in place for a while, and growing. These people call themselves patriots, as in the true patriots. Obviously, to embrace this world view, like young jihadists, they felt disenfranchised…but I don’t think they want to be reinfranchised as their minds are made up. Some segment of these people are armed and ready to be violent if that is called for….if the Democrats (Liberals) start to take back power or threaten their savior (Trump). The pipe bomb sender (who is one of them) is just the tip of the iceberg. We as Liberals who are involved in pushing a progressive agenda, thinking that a more eglatarian society is the answer — may be right, but we cannot naively keep our eyes closed to this parallel reality that is being pushed and embraced by those who attend Trump rallies and join white nationalist movements. I think Trump is definitely aware of this and stupidly encourages it, as he has his own mythology which involves his view of himself as a great president and savior. The movement is also stupidly encouraged by the Republicans, who want to keep power. However, I believe they have fed a monster that they will not be able to control, and that violence and bloodshed of some order will ensue. They may even be afraid to buck Trump because the ones who have, like Flake, have rec’d death threats. These threats will reach a point where they are no longer empty. I think this is a reality we need to be aware of. It is not just right-wing extremists that we are dealing with, buy a deluded group of individuals that is larger than we think. (Sorry for my negativity but I think of it as realism.)

Great treatise on the Liar-in-Chief. Gaining one chamber of congress is at least a beginning.

Where is Lee Harvey Oswald when we really need him?

I have heard of the deep state, and have to ask do these people have anything that resembles the Bill of Rights? Do they question ANYTHING?

The Clintons Obamas were far from perfect but aren’t worse than what is in power now. How can they think what this nation stands for and behave as Nazis, at the border. It isn’t like the US has no room for those tired families fleeing whatever strife in their countries. Iowa or Nebraska needs people and even giving land away and some immigrants have been building towns where there is a chance to make a living and help the economy and peacefully co-exist . What is wrong with that?

Most need a hand, but not permanent handouts just as the Quakers did a long time ago

It is clear to me they don’t and like GWB it’s my way or the highway. While I can still ask, is there fairness compromise, in their world view?

True thanks for your post, Starlight, even though it indicates such troubled times. I have pondered those charts many times this fall and prior and have never managed a clear picture either, but I noted the same thing that Trump is both upset and happy at the same time. I hope that means Dems at least win the House and there are some brakes on the administration. Perhaps it will prevent some craziness, although your comments about the military side are certainly not encouraging, for not just the US, but the whole world, which hardly needs any more stress!

Will, I understand why you make the comment about Oswald, but I simply cannot agree with those sentiments. I lived during those JFK days and it was not pretty. I would not wish that kind of chaos on the country in these days of social media for love nor money. Imagine the hate and the violence that would follow in these days, as opposed to the 60’s. Unimaginable what could happen. No, let Mr. Trump do his thing and let the troubles work out through the soul of the country in good time. The last thing the US needs is a dead Pres!

Thanks once again for your insights Nancy. This time shall eventually pass – a nod to the brits – ‘keep calm and carry on’.

Sharon and others, re your 3.36post:
I have mentioned this book here before, but if you get a chance, I HIGHLY recommend reading ‘In Gods Name” by David Yallop – it is available on kindle. Yallop was a respected, british, investigative journalist – he died earlier this year.
Re-reading it recently gives me a deeper understanding in this trump era context.
It will open your eyes to what I think is going on behind the scenes today – details $$$$$$$$ manipulations from the WW2 fascist era with Vatican higher ups, mafia, international banks & private companies, stocks, Italian tax scams, usa politicians, etc etc.
I think it spells out the possibilities (probabilities?) still going on behind the scenes today with the, no doubt, modern evangelical prosperity doctrine types added into the mix (especially the likes of Pat Robertson). Very much an ongoing tangled web of greed and corruption and power, on steroids today, Im afraid.

Thank you very much Nancy,

Here is some good news!

Ahead of the pivotal midterm elections in November, a coalition of major companies — including Walmart, Patagonia and Lyft — is making a big push to increase voter turnout.


Thank you, Nancy, for the reality-based update.

Sharon K – I read your post with great interest, because I have a friend who DEEPLY shares the alternative world-view that you so articulately describe.

My friend, over a period of a year, sent me countless YouTube links, as well as articles by ‘scholars,’ who have – to my friend’s mind – ‘proven’ that Hitler was a friend to the Jews, and that the gas chambers were built by the Allies to embarrass the German people.

Also, that climate-change is a liberal ‘plot’ by the the ‘globalists’ to help usher in a ‘one-world government.’

Lastly – and this is a core belief of the alt-right – that the ‘Jews,’ lead by Mr. Soros, are motivating and supporting migrants to come into Western countries, in order to – and I’m not kidding here – ‘breed with the white race to water-down the intelligence of the whites, so that the ‘Jews’ can control them better.’

It makes me sick to write these things – and worse, to see such beliefs in a good friend who used to be a reasonable, empathetic individual.

But, I’m writing this long post, because it behooves us all to watch for warning signs in those around us, so that they don’t end up as alt-right junkies.

For instance, if someone starts spending too much time viewing ‘alternative-news’ sites and videos – that’s how it started for my friend.

Also, if someone you know starts rejecting info/links you send them, because they will only ‘believe’ certain media outlets (alt-right, naturally) – that’s another warning sign.

I think if a loved-one’s interest in the alt-right can be addressed – early on – then maybe you’ll be saving that individual from a steep decline in their spiritual and emotional health – as well as keep that person from supporting fascist causes and candidates.

Nancy, I know this has been an extremely difficult time for you (and all of us for that matter), so I am personally grateful for your observations today (I’ll be checking these dates and aspects again and again for the remainder of the year and beyond.)

Sharon, you say you have begun to “wake up” in essence to the number of fxxked up people there are in our country, and that’s precisely what this craziness is all about, waking up. Until enough of us wake up as to how many of us are caught up by this disease, we won’t know how to go about defeating it. Focus is absolutely required of us (a Vesta specialty).

In the extraordinary chart for the US Vesta Return in April, 2016, she (US Vesta) being in Taurus was trine the then transiting Pluto in Capricorn (1 degree from where it is now) and the then transiting North Node in Virgo (one degree from where US Neptune is).

The then trans. South Node (conjunct the then trans. Chiron) in Pisces would therefore be opposite the then trans. North Node + US Neptune, and that gave the US Vesta Return chart a powerful Kite pattern.

This essentially made US Neptune (+ transiting North Node at that time) the key initiator of the grand trine energy.

So, looking back to April, 2016, we not only have a US Vesta (focus, what is invested in) Return, we also have transiting Chiron (wounding) opposite US natal Neptune (the focal point of the grand trine in the US Vesta Return). Donald Trump was winning primaries in April, 2016 and Neptune was in charge!!

The point is, I believe, that US Neptune and US Vesta and transiting Pluto are providing a way to be able to “see” the disease that has festered for too many years within the US body. By seeing it we can fight it. We can cure it if we are not so exhausted and fearful of it. People all over this nation are waking up.

Mercury was conjunct US Vesta at her Return at 22+ Taurus (exactly where Jupiter and Saturn were in 2000) and trine US Neptune, so, Mercury (communicate, media, etc.) during this Jupiter-Saturn cycle (2000-2020) is the chemo for healing (Chiron opposite US Neptune), but it (talking, writing, thinking about the illness) has to be given in carefully measured doses or it could make things worse.

As we make our 1st election since 2016 and Jupiter leaves Scorpio for Sagittarius, and Uranus finishes up his work in Aries, we will see progress in the healing of the USA. Baby steps.

Thanks again Teresa, transiting Uranus was opposite transiting Jupiter that day and today’s transiting Jupiter is T-square that 3/17/62 opposition.

Thank you Nancy. I see we struggle on.

I wanted to share this comment from one of my FB friends.

“Trump has stoked the fires of nationalism, and ancient race hatred [divisiveness, separatism based on appearance]. He is a mentally ill narcissist, a populist, a demagogue. But now we see the same kind of nastiness as we did with Hitler & his evil group, overshadowed by Cosmic Evil. Power corrupts … except that Trump was corrupt, without morals, and shut off from the Soul to begin with. Thus he, and his greedy, power-hungry cabal, are being manipulated by the subtler – and far more sinister – forces of the astral & lower mental planes. This could get quite ugly, perhaps even disastrous, if we do not short-circuit the rush & inflow of negativity. The stakes are greater than just national emergency, or human tragedy.”

LG & others, I guess there is the right-wing and then there is the violent right wing — the so-called and self-identified “patriots” who want to save the republic, something like people did in 1776. A revolution of sorts has been planned. I think these people have made themselves part of a cult and like any other cult – religious or otherwise, many of them are brainwashed. Kiwi, those that you mentioned are a different type of group or groups and may very well be part of what is so glibly referred to as the “deep state” – a really amorphous concept. I also think this is similar to what Eliseo refers to in his part of the world but those people might just be the regular far right conservatives and religious fundamentalists that we’ve been used to (and also afraid of). This cultist, delusional group of “patriots” is something else! There is overlap with all of these groups, of course, and it causes them to support Trump and Republican policies (for some the focus is totally on Trump, with others, it is the Repulicans). This is my current take on this anyway…

I guess another description of these “patriots” is that they readily embrace this world view made up of conspiracy theories that are lumped together.

LG, the Seminole tribe can’t find a record of him, they’re saying.


I too lived through the horrible Kennedy assassinations as I am a son of the 50’s. I have a dark sense of humor if you have known me at all over the many years I have posted here. That being said, imagine how many wonderful, brilliant amazing people would have lived full lives and made unimaginably wonderful contributions to the planet had Hitler been stopped (by any means necessary) when he was whipping up his racism, slaughter and horror and destruction during his ill-fated reign. Truth be told, there has already been violence and deplorable activity since the Liar-in-Chief has taken over our government. I cannot believe that you have not at least wished/imagined the Orange Pig dead stinking and rotting in the earth.

Sharon, one of the things that struck me in the book was their common goal of capitalistic gain/greed at any cost to the less fortunate, or those outside their clique, and the absolute derision/hatred of anything with ‘communist’ cooperative financial operating modes for the benefit of all concerned.
Something that came to my mind was the concept of jewish kibbutz – community working together to benefit everyone – and I wonder if there is any root connection here regarding jewish hatred?

I think that a lot of what passes as patriotism in the Trump World is really the dying patriarchy; white men (usually) refusing to accept any change in society that would raise the level of non-white men or any woman, seeing it as a threat to these (as Trump might say) low IQ “patriots”.

They see most foreigners as a threat (what? equality? seriously?) which threatens their own standing in society. The world is moving way too fast for these sickos.

Well, many Russia Jews had socialistic tendencies which were probably transferred to Israel, but I think of Israel as a capitalistic democracy. I don’t see it as practicing economic socialism, although there have always been collective farms that used collective child rearing — and seem to be socialistic experiments, I think. I see Antisemitism as going back to Europe in the Middle Ages and beyond, to the times that Jews acted as estate managers, since they couldn’t own property, businessmen, and money-lenders. I don’t know if I’m responding to what you are asking, though.

Barbk – and there are more women than men – avg 96.95 to every 100 women.
Stats, state by state https://www.statista.com/statistics/301946/us-population-males-per-100-females-by-state/

Thank you Nancy for everything that you do.

New Linda G up if anyone is interested.

I realize that after I read this post I feel somber.

There is only a 17% chance that the Republicans hold the house per 538. He is usually pretty accurate. He was one of the few who said it was possible for Trump to win and he took a lot of….. for that.

What I realize is that even if we do win that there will be so much cleaning up to do.

Well one foot in front of the other I guess.

This is why Nancy’s site has so many of us coming back.

Here we are the opposite or more mainstream than we are given credit in Trump world. The small fringe is not what America is even when the toad in the White House spews his brand of reality. I define it more of a microcosm that exists, but previous leaders sort of stepped around them.

Thankfully I have not seen extreme comments on social media this cycle. Facebook and others have stepped to the plate, even though I’m not a FB user.

Thanks for sharing Linda G’s video. I’m getting to be a fan.

lawyer for bomber’s family speaks –
Not indian – father phillipino, mother Italian. Mentally unstable, searching for identity – Trump became ‘father figure’

Will, I get your point, but no, I wish nobody harm, including DT. He got elected – right or wrong. To overthrow elected power by force is the same as revolution. People may want big change, but not that – and they are entitled to get it by law and by the act of voting.

I do believe that if something drastic were to happen to the commander in chief there would be a ‘witch hunt’ that would blow anything you have ever feared for the country right out of the ballpark.

Ghandi’s and MLK’s principles are right for a civil nation, even when they are not expedient. I didn’t say that people should not let their beliefs be known, strongly and vocally so, but I only pray that it will never become ‘uncivil’ in the sense that it could if the military were to get riled up, with social media feeding, providing a handy excuse for ‘physical’ stuff to happen. This is the worst kind of nightmare.

The US is after all the world’s most militarized nation in terms of readily available power to act – outside or within. It should stay that way – all potential, but no need to use more. Politics will keep on going and ‘speak softly’ still ought to be enough. Let the constitution pass its test. Just sayin….

In a previous entry submitted, I shared a video entitled “When will Trump Leave the White House? Midterm Update”. In this video, astrologer Evon Davis focuses in on the November 11th Moon/Saturn conjunction (5 ‘ 51 Capricorn) in PRECISE square to Trump’s natal Neptune (5 ’51 Libra). Evon seems to think this date will be very significant. What is fascinating to me is that on November 11th Trump will be attending the 100th year anniversary of the Nov. 11th 1918 armistice to be held in Paris. Trump is intending to hold a private meeting with Putin on the sidelines. With Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s natal Saturn at 5 ’59 Cancer, one can only hold ones breath…… will Mueller decide to hand down major indictments on this day, particularly on the issue of Russian collusion? If so, that would certainly serve as a major embarrassment to Trump and to Putin. This should be a very interesting date to watch.


your astrological predictions seem to be playing out with regards to the midterm elections.

I do believe we Democrats will take back the U.S. Senate…and many governor’s mansions…however, it is unlikely we will take back the U.S. Senate.

As of right now, it appears Democrats Andrew Gillum and Senator Bill Nelson will win here in Florida – they’re both ahead in the polls and the projection models show them both winning.

Also, I found Rick Scott’s birth time on some random astrology blog (which is 4:30 AM) and I asked British Astrologer Marjorie Orr to take a look at Rick Scott’s natal and progressed charts for around the time of the election – Marjorie Orr said she doesn’t see anything every promising for Rick Scott – and it doesn’t appear he’ll beat Bill Nelson.

I believe Democratic U.S. Senator Heidi Heitkamp will lose in North Dakota….and Claire McCaskill appears to be in danger of being reelected in Missouri.

But…there is a chance we can “flip” Arizona and Nevada. So, even if we don’t take back the U.S. Senate….perhaps we can at least keep it close.

Astrologically speaking, I know Venus is currently in retrograde – this can feel like a mercury in retrograde…..maybe this is partly causing all of the wacky polling lately?

Also, I read that Venus Retrograde is opposing Uranus…and Uranus represents the planet of sudden change and rebellions. – Well, we are expecting a higher turnout of women voters this election….and we know many of them are fed up with the Republican Party.

All in all, I do believe Democrats will retake the U.S. House….and at least keep it close in the U.S. Senate.

“Jupiter is making its last stand in the sign of Scorpio and has brought to light many misdeeds of the past and many of them have been of a sexual nature. On November 8 at 4:38 AM PDT Jupiter will move into Sagittarius. This sign has an entirely different meaning than Scorpio. Sagittarius is a fire sign and rules freedom. It also rules higher consciousness, judges, supreme courts and other courts of law, colleges, the Vatican and religions. Watch how the energy will start to change as soon as Jupiter moves into Sagittarius. I find it interesting that Jupiter moves into Sagittarius shortly after our election is finished. This full moon energy will be in effect until the election here in the United States.”


We are stronger than those who want to divide us.



I hear your fear and anxiety about chaos in the streets. I also hear your fear about revolution.
Nonetheless, this nation was built on revolution; revolt against the English monarchy; the Boston Tea Party, Fourth of July, 1776, the 1960’s and all of the amazing, liberating changes that took place.

Revolution is not a bad thing when it leads to liberation for the oppressed masses.

Trump won the election? Well, that’s a whole other kettle of filthy rotting fish.

Jerry, that WOULD be interesting; Mueller handing down a major indictment while Trump is out of the country. Looking at the Nov. 7th New Moon chart – one day after the election – has Uranus (surprise!) at the apex of a Yod he is in with the Jupiter (big picture) and Pallas (strategy) sextile.

Uranus will also be in a grand cross with Ceres conjunct Venus whom he opposes in this New Moon chart, and they square the opposing nodes (North and South). This grand cross in critical degrees does suggest a crisis opportunity.

The North Node in Cancer also participates in a grand trine with Jupiter in Scorpio and Chiron in Pisces.

Since Pallas also opposes Chiron in this chart (and now the grand trine becomes a Kite), and she also participates in the Yod (with Jupiter and Uranus), AND she is conjunct the US natal chart’s MC (the “world is watching” point) as well as the Super Galactic Center (evolutionary movement) . .

. . it would seem she, Pallas in the New Moon chart (just one day after the US midterm election, and just 4 days before the trans. Moon conjuncts trans. Saturn, that will square Trump’s natal Neptune and oppose Mueller’s natal Saturn and the US natal Jupiter) . . . .

Well, she, Pallas, is surely in a position to initiate something that will set off a chain reaction that could change the world. Who would think that a transiting Moon could trigger such a reaction? Well, Pallas the Planner, the Strategist, that’s for sure.

Transiting Pallas in this New Moon chart is also within orb of a square with transiting Saturn, and within orb of a conjunction with Trump’s Neptune, and within orb of a square with Mueller’s Saturn and the US natal Jupiter.

Timing (they say) is everything and Saturn rules Time, and the Moon will conjunct Saturn 4 days after this Scorpio New Moon. But it is Pallas who will determine the timing in the weeks following the US midterm election, and she will be conjunct the US natal chart’s MC and the Super Galactic Center in the November New Moon chart.

Beowulfie, yes.

In this extremely polarized reality, any extreme action will only set up the inevitability of an extreme opposite reaction. It needs to happen gradually, so that it truly takes root and doesn’t just keep swinging back and forth in extremes, never finding common ground and lasting solutions.

Many years ago I received this message about the times we are in now:
“There is only so much that can be changed from the outside anymore. The views are there, but the system is still holding on to old ways because it doesn’t know how to make the drastic changes that humans for truth see so clearly. The approach that will work now is to be the change from within the old system and transform it on an energetic level. Thus, the old ways will appear to be intact so that the apple carts are not blatantly upset. But, the whole vibration will be shifting by the attitudes and thought consciousness that is shifting beneath the surface by those that are using the spiritual skills within the system. This does not mean to join the system and fight for new ways, but rather to join the system and BE a new way.”

I’m investigating how I can personally do this now. It does feel like this paradigm shift is actually beginning now, however slowly and gradually. The more people who carry the “vibration” of higher truth and justice, the more a “true wave” will change the world. Like the hundredth-monkey effect.

So pitiful that this country could collapse into convulsions over the political fate of a con artist. What does this say about the state of people who want so desperately to buy into his lies?

Well, look at you lightcolorfire! Bravo and thank you for sharing your message here at Starlight News. I would love to know how many years “many years ago” would be; more than six? Was the “message” in a dream or something you read? Possibly from your higher consciousness or from a friend?

There is so much truth and wisdom in your message; “Thus the old ways will appear to be intact so that the apple carts are not blatantly upset.” Invaluable.

You have made my day and I thank you.

Thank you for your affirming response. I’m glad my post was good for you.

The message was received at the end of March 2014 (I guess not all that many years ago, but it sure feels like it!) It was channeled for me, and identified as my higher self.

(If you’d like more info or to see more of that reading, contact me at lightcolorfire@gmail.com)

There’s another way to look at this, a bit less emotional, perhaps, and more analytical.

Starting with the transit of Jupiter to his I.C. opposing his God- almighty MH we witnessed him receiving three ‘gifts from the Gods.’ heading into the mid-terms.

First there was Kavanaugh, Then there was the Evangelical preacher freed by Turkey ~ the equivalent of Iran freeing the hostages as a gesture of respect for Reagan ~ complete with photo ops of the preacher praying with Trump at the White House ~ RED MEAT for his base.

And finally, the greatest gift of all ~ the migrant caravan !!Trump is dancing with the Gods, and making hay with that Jupiter. True, the pipe bomber forced him to act contrite for a day, soooo out of character, but it’s likely to have little impact. Trump’s on a JUPITER roll, that not even the nastiest Saturn-Neptune combos can deflect.

Thanks for your comment, lightcolorfire. I truly hope ‘being the way’ is what works for humanity, even though there are a lot of humans who are not into ‘the way’ at all. Ideas and beliefs are a powerful force, especially when used for the general good. On the other hand, Will, revolutions haven’t done such a hot job in the 20th and early 21st century – there’s been a lot of revolutions and most have been dismal failures.

Either way, change will come. We will perish collectively from ignorance, overpopulation, disease, climate change and destruction of the planet unless we get with a different program. I’m hoping for the peaceful shift, not the revolutionary overthrow.

Time will tell – and our kids will pay the price, not us oldies who grew up in the 60’s, if ‘it’ doesn’t improve real soon!

I like will’s gut visceral take on the president:
you could almost smell the stench (from the rotting fish)

With tragedy at the synagogue I am so ready for the new congress to pass legislation limiting military weapons.

I wish turtle McConnell wasn’t coming back, but he’ll be limited at least

I think the country is ready for term limits. Think Orrin Hatch, the meanest old fart, don’t get me started on ol’ Chuck Grassley. His facial expression has “get off my lawn” forever snarled on his visage. Scary– just in time for Halloween

Will, “this nation was built on revolution” – how very Aries of you. LOL
Revolutions are the out of control fire with a lot of innocents getting burnt – revolutions have no say in what comes after because they are built on what people are against, rather than what they are for. Real change requires wisdom and planning. The revolution didn’t build the usa – a wise constitution did. But even that is subject to the whims of dogmatic factions when reason and thoughtfulness are overcome by flamethrowers and ignorant bullies.

Again many thanks for your astrological analyses and insights! I think we all share in your “funk.” These are definitely not normal, definitely bizarre times. It keeps us off balance and feeds into itself. Things get weirder and weirder.

Ed Tamplin this week – petrodollars

So glad to hear of your good check-up! Oh and such a sweet photo at the link!

Hi shylurker:
I read that in an article, too (linked below). Seems the pkg. bomber, Cesar, is the son of a Philippino immigrant as stated in the article below :


Here’s another article stating he’s not of Native heritage. Some said he may have tried to claim it for business $$ and tax write-offs :


Sad he’s taken on supremacists/neo nazis/nazi/kkk beliefs.


Aries I am – 0-degrees; a blessing and a curse. Fire I like. Upheaval is fun-times for me. I am not a violent person but I am persistently fiery when I feel the need for change. Someone has to initiate the change, lest we flop around in a miasma of fear and inertia.


Are you referring to failed revolutions in America? Or are you referring to unsuccessful coups in other countries? Which revolutions do you feel have been abysmal failures? And yes, by the way, some revolutions do fail if they are poorly planned or sputter out prematurely due to fear and lack of sustained effort. I recall the student’s revolt in France in the 60’s that came very close to doing the job – just short of it.

Will – from the French revolution came Napoleon; cuba – castro; russia – lenin; iran – Iotollah; US civil war – Lincoln killed – Andrew Johnson incompetence; tea party – trump.
Opportunists love vacuums caused by revolutionary fervor.


Yes, all of what you posted is true; but revolution must happen and will happen; Gandhi’s revolution saw plenty of slaughter and blood shed even when the pacifists didn’t fight back. Truth be told, one can find just as many good things to occur during and in the aftermath of revolution. Opportunists love opportunities – not just vacuums created by revolutionary fervor.

Revolution is a constant harbinger of change – good and bad.

“blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth” Meek in the Greek literature of the period most often meant gentle


The Constitution did not precede the revolution. Lots of patriots revolted and rebelled for years before; these revolts and blood shed gave birth to the Constitution.


Yes, kiwi, blessed are the meek. But Christ was also considered a revolutionary;viciously and savagely slaughtered for preaching his revolutionary ideas about love, kindness and peace; he brought the western world a new moral compass. Many of his apostles were also violently martyred as were many Christian saints that came many years after his Ascension.

And where would India be in the 21st century without her revolution of the 20th?

I am not advocating violence and disruption; but I thoroughly believe that stirring the pot is necessary lest the stew stick and burn. At times I actually ask for the Holy Spirit to come upon Trump – but on other days I wish he would be put down like a rabid dog for all of the fresh hell he brings almost every day.

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

I get what you are saying will, Im just saying like the yin/yang symbol that forms a circle, our essence/actions always must be balance. Sickness comes when balance is lost.

had to share Meghan’s speech tonight about women’s suffrage – (its their first day on the nz royal visit)

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There will always be disturbed people in every society. For every Joseph Stalin, Adolph Hitler, John Wilkes Booth, Charles Whitman, Martin Bryant, John Wayne Gacey, Ted Bundy, Anders Breivik, Seung-Hui Cho, Adam Lanza, Stephen Paddock, Nicholus Cruz, or Cesar Sayoc, who were born, there were many others born on the same dates who did not act out in the same, or even similar, ways they did. It is not possible to know which ones will or when or even if they will.

Be that as it may, a guiding principle in the Declaration of Independence states:

“In Congress, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

NOTE: The above text is a transcription from the stone engraving of the parchment Declaration of Independence (the document on display in the Rotunda at the National Archives Museum.) The spelling and punctuation reflects the original.

There have always been, and will probably always be, times when some of those disturbed individuals come to positions that allow them to affect the lives of many, even the historical course of countries. The United States and, to some extent the world, are experiencing one of those people at this time. As the current Congress does not seem to want to harness or remove this person (and his minions) from the position that permits his exploits it is up to the collective people of this country to do one or the other using the ballot box as their means of doing so.

His natal Sun-Moon opposition directly interacts with the United States (Sibly) Mars-Neptune (terror) square. The Sibly chart Mars at 80°35′ is exactly opposed by his natal Moon at 260°25′ and his Sun is in a fairly tight conjunction with that Mars.

It is possible that the nurturing and environment (life circumstances) of those born on the same day as the infamous figures were responsible for their not acting out in the same manner as them.

Pittsburgh Synagogue Murderer


“Pennsylvania’s voter registration data requires detailed information, including a zip code. A voter registration for Robert D. Bowers states that he is an unaffiliated voter.

Pennsylvania voter registration for Robert Bowers

The voter registration says:

“ROBERT D BOWERS (Date of Birth: 09/04/1972) is registered to vote in ALLEGHENY County” ”

Noon chart Sun 12°12′ Virgo, Mars 13°8′ Virgo, opposed by transit Neptune at 13°55′ Pisces at 9:50 am, EDT on October 27, 2018.

Agreed, Bob, but there is apparently a collective sickness and I think it is a combination of environment/lack of nurturing as well as glorification of guns/heroic figures in film, TV, and video games. Guns = power and many resort to violence due to their perceived lack of power. There is no balance within as Kiwi said. Their inner pain has distorted their emotions and thoughts, and when they band together and see cultural encouragement, well, there we have it. Some people can be born into good environments yet feel the need to stand out somehow, even if it means hurting others, but I guess there is something missing for them, some element of not being understood or a lack of healthy parental discipline, etc.

To your list above, please add Richard Bowers, the shooter who killed 11 at a Pittsburg synagogue yesterday and wounded 6 more, 4 of which were police officers (who should have more protective body armor). There were actually 3 separate groups having Sabbath services in the bldg. The people killed were meeting in a room upstairs, a group that was composed of people from ages 54 to 97, with a few in their 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s.

As with all mass shootings, this is incomprehensible and very sad. This hit close to home for me as I attend synagogue (erratically, mostly on holidays, but I observe the Sabbath by lighting candles Friday night and saying blessings on over the bread and wine, and not working on Saturday) but it could have been a church or mosque or public place. Apparently the person who shot 2 African Americans in a Kroger lot this past week, first tried to enter a largely African American church. So – as CNN headlines say, there were 3 incidences of hate crimes this week.

My thought is that we need more than gun control (although we sorely need that, too) as people who are determined to hurt others and execute copy cat behavior find a way. We really have to re-think security in public places and, since manpower is expensive, why can’t it be done electronically? I don’t want a police state but I do want to see a more protected environment. Security guards could be good, too. I don’t disagree with that.

Thank you, Bob, for the birth chart info. Yes, Robert Bowers was deluded for sure. Another idea is, although we have freedom of speech, any website that allows hate speech should be shut down because that’s a big factor in encouraging these deeds. The ADL has a chart that 74% of domestic terrorism with the U.S. between 2006 and 2016 was perpetrated by right-wing extremists

within, not with….

Obviously, I hadn’t yet seen your 2nd post, Bob, when I posted my long comment.


The Declaration of Independence – a compendium of beautiful thoughts.

Thank you for posting the passage.

David Johnson (the “psychic” who has a You Tube channel) says he sees Stacey Abrams winning the governorship in GA, but Greg Palast, who has already started a law suit, has investigated voter suppression and sees the possibility that it causes the Republican, Robert Kemp, the Sec of State who oversees the election rules, to win. I don’t want to believe that but, should it happen, there will be outrage and it should lead to many legal implications including Stacey not conceding. Basta!


@ LG: do you have a link to Majorie Orr’s thoughts on Rick Scott?

Never realized how much @BetoORourke looked like the late Robert F. Kennedy until someone pointed that out to me recently. He really does. Maybe it is Bobby reincarnated.

Yes, very sad today. Most of the people in U.S. are traumatized and realize that we have to get back to the norms and not return to a more dark and hateful time.

“In the last week we have encountered two actual killers and one aspiring killer who believed their president when he said that caravans of murderous foreigners are approaching, and who believed that what their president wants is to have those caravans halted by force. They believed their president when he said that the media is hurting America and they believe their president wants to stop the media from doing that journalism by physical force. In the last week, we have seen that when the president makes or amplifies false claims about George Soros and globalists and refugees, people want to act on those claims. It doesn’t matter whether the president is being truthful or arch or ironic or funny or even if he admits moments later that he was just lying for sport. It does matter that millions of Americans believe this president wants them to rise up if the election is stolen by way of “vote fraud,” and that this president wants them to physically assault journalists who report bad things about him. That is what they hear every day, and that is what we need to worry about.”

“Perhaps instead of wasting another day on the pointless cycle of whether people who tweet racist, anti-semitic, anti-immigrant and anti minority statements actually cause anti-Semitic, anti immigrant and anti minority attacks or just stoke what was there to begin with, we should content ourselves with the accepting that this is actually beside the point. The point is that people who hate Jews and immigrants and minorities believe that when they commit violence against these people, they are behaving as the followers their president wants them to be. Do all or most of the President’s fans believe this? Certainly not. But we have we seen far too many of them performing on the words the president puts out there. And it doesn’t matter who is “responsible” because he accepts no responsibility no matter what. It does matter what we do next.”

—Dahlia Lithwick at Slate (read the whole piece)

I too have noticed the remarkably similar facial structure between Beto & RFK. I mentioned it in the previous thread.

Bobby, (Robert Francis Kennedy) died June 6, 1968. Beto, (Robert Francis O’Rourke) named after his maternal grandfather, was born September 26, 1972. Beto’s mother is the stepdaughter of Fred Korth, who was the Secretary of the Navy under President JFK.

Thank you lightcolorfire, I thought your message must have come after the 2012 winter solstice (the end of the Mayan calendar) and the start of this new cycle, and yes, 2014 does seem long ago.

Your message came around the time of the March 20, 2014 Equinox which had Pluto at 13 Capricorn 24, opposite the US natal Sun at 13 Cancer 19, and both were squared by transiting Uranus at 11 Aries 45, describing an intense period challenging the world, specifically the USA.

There was also a grand trine in this Equinox chart between Chiron (healing, bridging) at 14+ Pisces and the Moon (the masses) at 17+ Scorpio and Jupiter (see the big picture) at 10+ Cancer (conjunct US natal Sun and US Jupiter and US Venus). This suggested a path leading to healing for humanity through an increase in consciousness, and that the USA would or could lead the way.

Because trans. Pluto was exactly opposite the US natal Sun (and also trans. Jupiter) at this Equinox in 2014, . .
and because trans. Mercury (Messenger) at 3+ Pisces was exactly trine the US natal Venus at 3+ Cancer, . .
and because trans. Neptune (right brain functions) at 5+ Pisces was exactly trine the US natal Jupiter at 5+ Cancer, . .
a lot of folks (who were ready) in the US were probably getting messages (in some form) like yours. Thank goodness you kept (and remembered and shared) yours.

Ceres in that Aries Equinox 2014 was at 0+ Scorpio, the same degree of the US natal Hades (stuff which needs to be dealt with and is long overdue), and which trans. Uranus (who was conjunct the Full Moon 4 days ago) opposes from 0+ Taurus, just might be connecting us to that healing path through the loss of life at the Pittsburgh synagogue yesterday. Increase in Consciousness.

Lets hope all of us are getting the message from our higher selves right now.

Thank you, Lexie. Just makes a person angry that MAGAbomber is trying to bring the Seminoles into this. Good to know more websites, publications are rejecting it. Here’s another with direct quotes from tribal officials themselves:

Thank you so much Nancy for your guidance, you are our Shining Starlight!

Here’s a clip from my San Francisco Radio Program. Listen to this scary warning to us of what this elderly woman sees happening re: DDrump:
It’s not long, just click where the Blue Arrow starts:

Also, Pat and John will be on KGO live @ 4pm/7est Live, if you want to tune in: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/kgo-2/pat-thurston
Plus there are also listings of all the Podcast.


I didn’t have time to finish my first mouthful of popcorn!

You see what happened by the women’s vote in this country – they put tRump in!

Can you straighten out your American sisters?

Males are a minority group. But the following was on them as women did not get the right to vote in America until 1920.

FYI – At that time in America a rapist was put in office. On March 4, 1893, Grover Clevend (a Democrat) began his second term as president after having been put out the previous 4 years.


“Just days after Grover Cleveland became the Democratic presidential nominee in 1884, the Buffalo Evening Telegraph published a scathing expose. It detailed how Cleveland had fathered an illegitimate son a decade ago, when he was unmarried, with a woman named Maria Halpin in Buffalo, New York.

The story was quite true, and the details horrific. In an affidavit, Halpin said Cleveland had impregnated her “[b]y use of force and violence and without my consent.” After he raped her, she threatened to report him, and Cleveland “told me he was determined to ruin me if it cost him $10,000, if he was hanged by the neck for it.” After Halpin gave birth, Cleveland used his influence in Buffalo (where he would later become mayor) to place the child in an orphanage and Halpin in a mental institution, which later released her when it determined there was nothing wrong with her.”


“…long-forgotten affidavit from Maria Halpin…”

We haven’t advanced much, if at all.


“…Maria Halpin, who had never known a hint of scandal until she met Grover Cleveland. She issued a sworn affidavit saying, “There is not and never was a doubt as to the paternity of our child, and the attempt of Grover Cleveland or his friends to couple the name of Oscar Folsom or any on else with that of the boy, for that purpose, is simply infamous and false.” In a second affidavit she described in detail how she had been ravished by Grover Cleveland, saying, “While in my rooms he accomplished my ruin by the use of force and violence and without my consent.”

“Listen to this scary warning to us of what this elderly woman sees happening re: DDrump:
It’s not long, just click where the Blue Arrow starts:”


Can not see Blue Arrow. Need direct link. This has been true for all of your links in the past also – I get no results.

Apparently Bannon was involved with the Right wing Brazilian Presidential Campaign.

Very interesting.

Thanks Bob, ” . .it is up to the collective people of this country to do one or the other using the ballot box as their means of doing so.”

Astrology’s form of communicating can be laborious if one is dependent on using logic alone, but if one is open to clues found in specific charts; clues that require the use of imagination, it’s a veritable yellow brick road leading to answers.

For example I’ve been reviewing a chart from 2012, the Winter Solstice (thanks to lightcolorfire) that was being touted at the time to be the end of one era and the start of a new one by many who were drawn to the Mayan belief system.

That chart, when set in Washington DC, resonated with the US natal Sibly chart with their very close ascendants (1 degree apart) and MCs in the same degree. The ruler of the 2012 Solstice chart, Jupiter, was at 8+ Gemini and conjunct the US natal Uranus at 8+ Gemini. The ruler of the US natal chart is also Jupiter (5+ Cancer) and right now transiting Saturn opposes it.

Jupiter in the 2012 Winter Solstice chart was also at the apex of a yod with Saturn at 8+ Scorpio sextile Pluto at 8+ Capricorn (where trans. Saturn was last March before stationing retrograde, and where it will return to in December).

Because Jupiter was at the apex of this 2012 Solstice chart Yod it would be forced to adjust. Would the US natal chart’s Uranus in the same degree also have to “adjust”?

The 2012 Solstice Jupiter was also conjunct the Pluto-Neptune conjunction that started the present cycle we are in now. Pluto and Neptune at 8+ Gemini were sextile Mars and Chiron at 8+ Leo (where Mueller’s Pluto is as well) and this sextile forms a Yod to the 2012 Solstice Pluto at 8+ Capricorn (and soon trans. Saturn), meaning the 2012 Solstice Pluto has had to adjust, and soon the now transiting Saturn will follow suit.

Interestingly, Donald Trump’s natal Mercury at 8+ Cancer turns the Pluto-Neptune conjunction chart + the 2012 Solstice chart’s (combined) Yod into a Boomerang (by opposing Pluto at 8+ Cap), and as well, Trump’s natal Pluto at 10+ Leo conjuncts the Sun (symbol of consciousness) in the Pluto-Neptune chart.

Without looking at the charts it is confusing, but it shows that Trump has played into this dual chart pattern as if he were born to do so, and who am I to question fate?

The US natal chart then connects to the 2012 Winter Solstice chart, and both chart’s connect to the Neptune-Pluto cycle’s chart, which connects with Trump’s natal chart (and I’ve only scratched the surface).

Lightcolorfire’s message says we must be the change from within, and the US Declaration of Independence says it is the Right of the People to abolish or to alter (a destructive form of government), and Bob says it is the ballot box that is our method for doing so, and these connected charts not only describe how we got to this place, they show the pathway to fixing what’s broken in the US.

The gods and goddesses have worked hard to bring us to this point; becoming conscious of what’s amiss in our government and those flaws that must be overcome, and where to start the healing. The rest is up to us to get this new era started on the right foot.

Did any of you guys see the meme that says you can’t have hatred without a red hat!! HAT RED. RED HAT. MAGA
FIts so perfectly with this.

So! Very disappointing about BRAZIL, what’s happening with the WORLD right now ?!?!

Michael Wolfstar:


“For those who don’t want to see Trump re-elected in 2020, note that Brazil’s left was weakened by infighting, and unable to unite around a single figure.”

“weakened by infighting and unable to unite around a single figure.” Sounds familiar.

I think that Lula would have won but he was imprisoned and could not run.

Apparently the elites wanted to tamp down what they saw as an uptick in social democracy.

Actually almost all of this sounds familiar.

Diana: Very interesting about hatred and hat red! And, of course, red is associated with Mars, the God of war.

Sharon David Johnson is someone I would classify as a nice guy who means well.
I also find Violetta to be a kind hearted person who also means well.
Lena Rodrigues? also seems to be a decent person who means well.

The person I really pay attention to is Linda G.

Sharon are you the person who recently completed your MSW and LCSW? I am a retired LCSW. I worked as a BSW then as a MSW and finally a LCSW for around 36 years total.

Linda g said she saw a father and son as the pipe bomb suspects. It was written that Cesar Sayoc looked to Trump as a father figure.

My chart for Putin was made on April 23, 2014, more than a year before tRump announced his candidacy and I found the January 13, 2020, conjunction of Sun, Saturn, and Pluto at 294°42′ and 294°45.

The MC of my Putin chart in Moscow is at 294°14′.

The natal MC in St Petersburg is at 286°59′. Transit Saturn will be on it on February 8, July 31, and November 4, 2019.

Natal Sun at 193°11′ (14°19′ Libra) will be squared by transit Saturn on January 7, 2019, in right ascension. Squared in longitude on January 26, August 27, and October 10, 2019.

Natal Saturn at 197° (17°30′ Libra) will be squared by transit Saturn on February 8, July 31, and November 4, 2019, in right ascension. February 26, July 6, and November 26, 2019, in longitude.

Natal Neptune at 200°11′ (21°11′ Libra) will be squared by transit Saturn on March 13, June 19, and December 7, 2019, in right ascension. December 30, 2019, in longitude.

Then comes transit Sun, Saturn, and Pluto on his Moscow MC on January 13, 2020, in right ascension and longitude.


Awesome news for redistricting reform

Excellent @DNC ad that debuted on Morning Joe directed by Donny Deutsch. Will bring most people to tears. Pls watch and share.



Native American – Amazing Grace (in Cherokee)

From the comments:

“Are you aware this is considered to be the Cherokee Nation’s National Anthem? They sang it on the trail of tears: shows their awesome love and respect of God.”

This link has been my email sig for years. A hard to read image from it says: “Some people, no matter how old they get, never lose their beauty – they merely move it from their faces into their hearts.” Martin Buxbaum

ja I had completely forgotten about the father son angle. Great catch.

The Only Thing We Have to Fear is Trump Himself!
by Maureen Dowd


EXCELLENT, vintage Dowd, Angellight. I always like her thinking and writing so much until she started criticizing Obama in unnecessary ways. Thank you for posting this.

I gave up on Maureen Dowd long ago for her blatant disrespect for President Obama.


I’d like this to be true, but what do the planets say?

She said she would not run after the last time and I could understand that given the election was likely stolen AGAIN in 2016 and had a nightmare since

I wouldn’t like it to be true at all, LG. She is a failed candidate. We need someone else and they should be somewhat moderate and bring both sides together over issues that concern everyone.

As far as Dowd, Ja, I felt the same way but read this particular column…it is great and spot on.

Sharon K,
I agree with you entirely. We need a moderate candidate with whom former Republicans, i.e. the sensible, rational R’s can feel comfortable voting for, and particularly against DJT. They’ve left the R. party; many are doing serious rethinks and reevaluations of their values.

Most all of these former R’s are seeing how reactionary their party has become and are returning to old fashioned Eisenhower moderate conservatism, i.e. accepting of the FDR and LBJ social reforms. They also pretty universally accept science, evolution, and climate change as established fact. I believe it would be wise to welcome them into the Dem party. But they’ll need an entry ramp. A moderate Dem presidential candidate, one who has not been demonized for the past 26 years (albeit unfairly) could serve that purpose.

That account on Grover Cleveland was something!
I’m going to see if the book is at my library.
He was a scoundrel, and a slob of the lowest order.

Some men have not changed for the better, yes? Don’t mean to broad brush. Actually the men here are quite decent.

If you had not mentioned his name I would of thought this was a modern tale. Thanks for the link

When I wrote “Most…are returning to old fashioned Eisenhower moderate conservatism, i.e. accepting of the FDR and LBJ social reforms” I did not mean to say they’ve all arrived, but that this is the direction they are going toward.

Sharon K: Welcome. Yes, she is spot on.

Transiting retrograde Venus (0 Scorpio) is opposite transiting retrograde Uranus (0 Taurus), in grand cross with transiting North Node (0 Leo) opposite South Node (0 Aquarius) today would seem to reflect Trump’s visit, unwelcomed by most, to Pittsburgh. Ii wouldn’t surprise me to see a demonstration of such by some local citizens today.

news article this morning indicates trump considering chipping away at 14th amendment by executive order – specifically, those born in the usa to foreigners.
Another distraction? Or another s**tstorm?

I think that all the states need to ratify changes to the Constitution – but, either way, it cannot be easy and for Trump to bring up this outrageous suggestion has to be to rile up the base & any anti-immigration Republicans (and Dems — my brother-in-law is one) before next week’s election. It will go nowhere.

LG, I wanted to explain a little more; hence you think I’m being over blunt or rude. I was among the most enthusiastic of Hillary supporters even though her occasional divisive remarks bothered me. They were not smart and they were counter-productive. A president has to find a way to govern the entire country and appeal to their needs. Even though I liked Bernie & his ideas, I didn’t see the whole country supporting them. I also saw flaws. First of all, his wife bankrupt the college she was Dean of. That says something negative about that family’s approach toward budgeting. Could Bernie really find a way to pay for his ideas, even before the tax cuts (some of which might even be helpful to small businesses)? Secondly, people will cry Socialism! Communism! He is too divisive and those who go in that direction will not help the country heal – it is a case of peripheral vision. We honestly need someone moderate and centrist at this time. In one or two cycles from now, we can go progressive. Hillary was open to some progressive changes but she was not far left. For the country to unite, we need someone perceived as strong economically, business minded, somewhat Conservative, possibly like Blumberg or Huntsman (I kid you not). We need someone very strong because the Democrats have not been able to strongly support their ideas verbally and demonstrate success. Those further to the right and left have both bought into the conspiracy theories related to the Deep State (which probably exists in some form but there is so much BS about it). However, the right and left have completely different solutions for dismantling it. For the right, it’s been Trump. We need someone sensible that has nothing to do with these positions as nothing else will fly. I have thought this for a long time. I think it now and it may be the only way to avoid a somewhat violent occurrence similar to revolution or civil war. Real and stable change comes with persistence and unity, and takes time, while moving in the right direction, imho. My liberal colleagues say the only way to win is to come out strong on a progressive platform. That will only create enemies from the beginning. These platforms have to be proven to work first, imho.

David Johnson gave a very good reading about the Democratic Party and the gist of it was that until we can unite our factions, we will not have the strength, the power, the vitality, the enthusiasm to attract people and create real and stable change.

Of course, whatever candidate we run cannot be part of the Deep State but will have to be corporately supported to some extent in order to afford to compete. In that respect, Bernie was great. He attracted a lot of support and donations but we just cannot ignore a huge chunk of the population who are afraid of social democracy and equate it with communism and socialism. We need fiscal responsibility and to rebuild out institutions, like public education, and public health care, but in a very responsible way. (Just imho…)

rebuilt “our” institutions

Kiwi, People are asking what about all the Drump property being sold to Russians so they can have their babies born in the U.S.A. for dual citizenship?.

Thank You, Angellight for Maureen Dowd.
I pray thngs get back to normal when an honorable Republican returns to office.

LATEST: Mueller asks FBI to probe scheme seeking sexual assault dirt on him:

Your insight amazes me! Your analyses are spot on. Although I’m a proponent of many alternative & very Leftward solutions, I concur for the next few cycles we need a moderate president.
It will take that long for the electorate as a whole to understand the necessity of some of the more ProgressIve solutions. Consensus is better than what our Founders called “the tyranny of the majority.” A TOTM can well lead to the violence we would like to avoid.

You mentioned Jon Huntsman. I’ve long considered him the best from the R. Side. Too bad the R’s couldn’t nominate him the 2 times he ran. He is both honorable, and rational.

It fascinates me that Beto O’Rourke has natal Uranus at 17+ Libra, conjunct Trump’s natal Jupiter, and
the US PROGRESSED Mars, and
the US Constitution chart’s Neptune . . .

it’s the secret sauce of Beto O’Rourke.

You may recall the Sabian Symbol for this degree is “Two men placed under arrest”.

KEYNOTE: A breakdown in the constructive relationship between the individual and society, and the expectable result. (from An Astrological Mandala by Dane Rudhyar)

Dane Rudhyar notes the symbol doesn’t reveal the cause of the “breakdown” but suggests it is coming from “unconscious pressures” leading to “a new step in the evolution of society”. He says:

“The fact that two men are pictured under arrest suggests a polarization and a purpose transcending a personal fit of recklessness.”

These two men symbolically bring us to this point of “FACING THE CONSEQUENCES” stemming from missed opportunities to incorporate change in an evolving society.

Trump, the progressed US Mars, the US Constitution’s Neptune and Beto O’Rourke are joined at the hip by this symbol and soon enough we (as a whole) will get the message they are bringing to the surface (consciousness) and make a giant leap forward. Evolve or die.

Eliseo, Maybe I got that idea (of a few election cycles) from you? Now that I think about it, I think you said it yourself not all that long ago. It just makes sense to me. Small steps in the right direction work.

Very potent world view November Steve Judd:
(Does anyone else get a twinge-y feeling about Jupiter moving into Sag Nov 8 (I know y’all know the metaphors, rulerships, etc) as a date Mueller might start a barrage …?)

Barbra Streisand sings to Drumpf: «Don’t lie to me».


Now they are desperately trying to paint Mueller as a sexual harasser. A woman came forth and said she was offered $20,000 to make that claim against him. Apparently there are others! The FBI is on it. They started up with the wrong guy!


I feel certain it will be the US women who will determine the midterm election outcome on November 6th, due to the US solar return chart and the US Vesta Return chart and the chart for Election Day morning which has:

*Pallas at 0+ Libra on the US MC (outcome),
*Ceres and Venus conjunct at 27+ Libra (trine US Moon and square US Pluto),
*Juno conjunct Sedna (26-27 Taurus) square US Moon and trine US Pluto, and opposite trans. Jupiter,
*Vesta conjunct Pluto (18-19 Capricorn) trine US natal Vesta,
*Moon will square Nodes and oppose Uranus right after she conjuncts Ceres and Venus.

If anyone wants details of the US solar return or the US Vesta return charts I will oblige, but I’ve shared them previously. I will note Venus was conjunct Uranus and Eris at the US Vesta Return.

This means the Dems will win the House for sure, and probably a lot more State offices.

Oprah Is Going To Georgia To Campaign With Stacey Abrams


Ralfee Finn:

“Over the course of the next ten days, three major events have the power to tilt the axis of daily life in a new direction: (1) the American mid-term elections, which occur on November 6; (2) Uranus retrogrades back into Aries—also on November 6; and (3) on November 8, Jupiter enters Sagittarius, where it hasn’t been for twelve years. We could—or maybe even should—call these days Ten Days That Shook the World, the title of John Reed’s book on the Russian Revolution (published 99 years ago) because the coming ten days will set the tone for the next several years, and those years are best understood as the American Revolution 2.0.”


EXCLUSIVE: Migrant caravan troop deployment could cost $50 million despite no evidence of terrorists, major gang presence


Angellight, the troops don’t have weapons and read they’re not doing much else except have a presence.

The optics are that this is a DT dog and pony show to play to the few that vote for him. The sooner we call it what it is, the less effective it becomes.

I hit the IGNORE button and change the channel.
The media should not repeat the SOS DT says.

Sarah Sanders is a huge disappointment for the women who fight for decency. Her unchristian behavior is shameful.

the dailymail is reporting that Trump might have been secretly subpoenaed by Mueller and some believe he’s desperately fighting being forced in front of a grand jury.

Sarah Huckster is what she is – a political animal steeped in the wiles of republican and evangelical campaign manipulative tactics, trained at the knee of her daddy. Just another story of family entitlement combined with evangelical brainwashing, that has replaced broad, many faceted, real world experiences.

LG, yes, troop deployment dog and pony show. Most media are explaining that there is no need for the troops since migrant refugees are 1000 of miles away and a waste money and human resources. What kind of commander and chief would use the troops in this way?

Thanks ja for Ralphee Finn’s 10 day outlook – she’s always spot on. I would add a 4th event “tilting the axis of daily life in a new direction”, and increase the spread from 10 to 11 days, so as to incorporate the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction on October 29th.

Only a year long (approximately), their cycle mirrors how our communication with one another will be – and what the media will be driven by – according to planetary placements at the Mercury-Jupiter conjunction. For example. their cycle that ended on Oct. 29 had started at 1+ Scorpio, with a tight opposition between Sun (consciousness) at 25+ Libra and retrograde Uranus (disruption) at 26+ Aries.

This new cycle also starts in Scorpio, but this time at 27+ degrees, with Venus now at 1+ Scorpio, which suggests a carryover of certain passion-driven values-related themes. This new cycle has Sedna (thrown overboard) and Juno (unfaithful husband) opposite Mercury and Jupiter. It suggests (to me) a kind of of “revenge theme” by women who have suffered at the hand of society’s patriarchal leanings. Talk about a “tilt” in a “new direction”!

This new Mercury-Jupiter cycle’s retrograde Venus (in the same degree as last year’s Mercury-Jupiter conjunction) opposes retrograde Uranus in Taurus, which creates a tough grand cross with the North Node in Leo and the South Node in Aquarius. This chart’s out-of-sign trine between Venus and Juno (who conjuncts Sedna) provides some support toward a solution.

This Mercury-Jupiter cycle chart’s opposition between Pallas (strategic warfare) at 27+ Virgo and retro. Chiron (bridging, wounding) at 28+ Pisces are both sextile and trine the opposition between Mercury-Jupiter and Sedna-Juno, so it looks like we wiggle our way to a better discourse (from where we are today) by the end of the cycle on January 2, 2020.

God i love this forum. Sharon what you said is so spot on as Eliseo said , you’re absolutely correct ! We can only hope and pray that the Dems follow this common sensed approach.
Otherwise we get more Trump.

The birthright issue that he brings up now to further serve and stoke his business i have a comment on however.
I am not an American as you know. I believe that Americans should however legally look at trying to change some parts of the constitution that the founding fathers certainly did not intend for in these modern times

I hold a UK passport. If you give birth in England and your parents are not legal residents you do not qualify for British citizenship. Because i was born there my children who were not born there do get it. But it stops at one generation. Theirs do not qualify. So a visitor on vacation who gives birth , their child does
Not automatically receive British citizenship.

I 100 percent agree that American citizenship should only be given to the children of citizens and legal residents It angers me greatly how many people abuse this situations and have their ‘anchor babies ‘ here Besides the Russians and Chinese, i know so many people from
The Caribbean where i am from
That come here specifically so their children can get US citizenship. It’s an abuse and plain old wrong.
Also it doubly angers me because me and my family are trying to go about immigration the right and legal way by investing into America and creating American jobs and the amount of time and expense it is taking with no clear or immediate resolution is soul destroying and scary. My son
Who has been here since 13 as a legal dependent on us who are resident legal aliens can’t work and would need to leave ad 21 if we do t get our green cards in time.
It’s a very painful and heartbreaking process for us and when i see people abuse the aystem it anger and hurts me.
I think the constitution should be changed on this regard.
Also the second amendment is another example where things should be changed since i am pretty sure that the founding fathers didn’t intend for the average citizen to carry machine guns.
And then there’s the whole electoral college system
Which should be revisied. Right now it’s not a real democracy and some people’s
Votes count way more than others


I just read that Oprah’s coming to campaign for Stacy Abrams. President Obama’s going to be there on Friday, so they must think she has a good shot at pulling off a victory.

As awful as the past two years of Trump have been, I have to say, we have so many great Democratic candidates this year. I see youth. I see enthusiasm. I see plain-speaking candidates, fully embracing a progressive message. No wishy-washy, apologetic Dems we had so much of in the past.

I’m scared about how awful it will be if America chooses more Trump-like candidates next week, but I’m also really excited and impressed with so many of our candidates. People are stepping up. They’re fighting, but in an enthusiastic and positive way. Stacy Abrams is one of them.

Could we please (also) focus on how many R seats the D’s have flipped in special elections in the past two years, and by how many points?

Personally I sense that voting-wise there will be a blue almost-tsunami which will be registered (because the the cheating and corrupt voting machines, etc.) as a blue wave.

Nancy, thank you for this shelter from the storm. Reading positive/kind and spiritual comments here is a sacred blessing from this horrible storm.
Andre, Thanks for Barbra Streisand brilliant link.
Please send strength to Meuller.
And Visualize a Huge, Enthusastic BLUE WAVE in these coming days…Think/Picture it often!


The #1 thing we need to do here is destroy corporate personhood. So many abuses of power stem from that gross misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment.

At the same time, the money needs to be banned from politics, period. I want total asset seizure and life in prison for Charles Koch and every other absurdly rich fool who has corrupted our system for the sake of forcing their warped beliefs on everyone to their own benefit.

Citizens United needs to be killed.

I don’t think ill of anyone here. This is a refuge for from the storm out there.

I feel safe here. Will . kiwi, Sharon, Patty, Barbk, Nancy of course, Jerry, Bob. and others, You’re my friends bcz we think alike in many respects. I live in the famous bay area in Calif.
KGO was my station at night. I was sad to see the veterans purged by Clear Channel. Oh well.
All comments much appreciated.
I’m a candidate for local office in San Francisco,School Board.

Please vote.

I didn’t think you did, LG, I just didn’t want to come across as arrogant in my remarks about Hillary. I really do have reasons and deeply feel she should keep a somewhat low profile. People are still using her to create negative associations with Liberals, Democrats, and Progressives, even now. Talking about living in the past! We really need someone fresh and great, who can work across party lines when possible. I don’t care if they are male or female. I just want them to be someone who cannot be tied to what is now called “identity politics” but who can instead be looked at as a unique, charismatic leader, much greater than their group affiliations, as those affiliations can’t be a distraction.

Hey, good luck to you! Hope you win! Rooting hard for you to make a difference for the education system and students of San Francisco!


Sending you waves of great good fortune toward a victory!


Watch: 8 Women Candidates Join For Record Breaking 2018 Midterms | The Beat With Ari Melber | MSNBC

Just the end of the speech.

John F. Kennedy, Remarks Intended for Delivery to the Texas Democratic State Committee in the Municipal Auditorium in Austin


“For this is a time for courage and a time for challenge. Neither conformity nor complacency will do.Neither the fanatics nor the faint-hearted are needed. And our duty as a party is not to our party alone, but to the Nation, and, indeed, to all mankind. Our duty is not merely the preservation of political power but the preservation of peace and freedom.

So let us not be petty when our cause is so great. Let us not quarrel amongst ourselves when our Nation’s future is at stake. Let us stand together with renewed confidence in our cause–united in our heritage of the past and our hopes for the future-and determined that this land we love shall lead all mankind into new frontiers of peace and abundance.”


My heart is with you and …

“May the Force be with you.”

PS – Now I know you are not Lady Gaga.

“This is the great new problem of mankind. We have inherited a large house, a great ‘world house’ in which we have to live together– black and white, Easterner and Westerner, Gentile and Jew, Catholic and Protestant, Muslim and Hindu– a family unduly separated in ideas, culture and interest, who, because we can never again live apart, must learn somehow to live with each other in peace.”

Martin Luther King, Jr.

When Obamacare was born on March 23, 2010, the Sun (life, consciousness) was at 2+ Aries and opposite Saturn at 1+ Libra, which conjuncts the US natal chart’s MC, also at 1+ Libra.

In July, 2018, 4 hours before the US natal Sun’s Solar Return would become exact, transiting Chiron stationed retrograde at 2+ Aries (1 deg. from US natal chart’s IC/roots), closely conjunct the Sun (consciousness) in the Obamacare chart (that opposes the Obamacare chart’s Saturn).

Chiron stationing (strong) and Moon (the People) were conjunct in the US 2018 Solar Return (effective for one year) and conjunct the Sun in the Obamacare chart as well.

Herein lies the explanation as to why healthcare is the prime concern of US voters today.

If the Obamacare chart’s Saturn conjuncts the US natal MC (what rises to the top) and if Saturn symbolizes things like restriction, security, responsibility, government, then Obamacare (healthcare) is always going to be focused on, especially now.

This is due to TRANSITING Chiron (symbol of bridging one level of consciousness to a higher level of consciousness, usually through wounding). So transiting Chiron – as it relates to US healthcare – is Key to this election’s outcome (outcomes being a 10th house thing).

This is further understood when we see that Chiron in the OBAMACARE birth chart at 28+ Aquarius was conjunct Neptune (blurred) at 27+ Aquarius which is the degree of the Moon in the US natal chart, and this Moon symbolizes the People (the Masses).

We have an opportunity to understand how Chiron works in birth charts at this time. In the US NATAL birth chart 4th house Chiron in Aries opposes 10th house Juno in Libra but sextiles 7th house US Mars in Gemini. Mars is action and in Gemini the action is communication and voting is communication.

US natal Mars in Gemini supports US natal Chiron in Aries and even more so, supports US natal Juno (who supports the disenfranchised) in Libra, whom it trines. Remember, it is Chiron (through wounding) that acts as the bridge to greater understanding.

So now, back to TRANSITING retrograde Chiron.

On Election Day Chiron (28+ Pisces) will trine Jupiter (29+ Scorpio). Chiron will also sextile Sedna and Juno (both symbolize a form of disenfranchisement) at 26+ and 27+ Taurus, while transiting Jupiter will oppose them. It is Chiron, now in a position to reconcile the Election Day Jupiter-Sedna/Juno standoff (opposition), likely meaning US citizens who have been denied the right to vote through unscrupulous measures, among other things.

Chiron in 4 different charts; Obamacare, US natal, US solar return and Midterm Election Day, will play a key role is moving humanity and the US society a few inches up the evolution ladder, but only a few of us will realize we have Chiron to thank for it.

Oprah’s speech today for Stacey Abrams

“I’m here today because of the men and because of the women who were lynched, who were humiliated, who were discriminated against, who were suppressed, who were repressed and oppressed … I refuse to let their sacrifices be in vain.”


across the pond, investigations of dirty money manipulating the brexit vote are continuing also . . . http://www.star4cast.ca/arron-banks-a-spot-of-legal-bother/

I hope you win LG.

I read something interesting. Apparently the largest number of new voters in the United States were registered in Texas. 200,000 in Texas alone with second place going to California with 84,000 new voters.

Recent polls show that the race is only 3.4 or 3.9 percentage points apart. Might even be closer by election day.

I really think Beto can win.

“We will Open Fire on the immigrant caravan if they throw stones says Trump” (I am shocked!)

Wonderful Read from Texas:
Beto O’Rourke May Benefit From an Unlikely Support Group: White Evangelical Women


Have you read this? The USA Chart in 2020 (Part 4) which is about women and US Pluto and the beginning of the end of the Patriarchy.



Judge denies ACLU request to move Dodge City polling site

Source: ABC-Topeka

A coalition of groups – DNC, local Democratic affiliates, church’s, veterans groups and others wanting to help with free rides to and from the polling place – will have 4 working days to be formed. As the Civic Center is a public place and is not really shut down (shown by Rachel) maybe it can be the gathering place for a parade of vehicles wanting to help. Could perhaps begin tomorrow or the next day if walk in early voting is allowed.

Find out if that domestic terrorist judge can be impeached for any reason.

Never give up.

i voted more than 2 weeks ago. My alderwoman’s husband gave me a ride to the Board of Elections Office because of my back/hip problem preventing me from standing in line for long. There were only 2 people in front of me.

“Then I’ll be all aroun’ in the dark. I’ll be ever’where — wherever you look. Wherever they’s a fight so hungry people can eat, I’ll be there. Wherever they’s a cop beatin’ up a guy, I’ll be there.”

The Grapes of Wrath

Get out of Dodge, judge.



Just because.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WwTHWSsG0E 24:37

Watch: 8 Women Candidates Join For Record Breaking 2018 Midterms | The Beat With Ari Melber | MSNBC

This figure is so over the top my first thought “fake news?” – US$ or other currency?
“Melania’s one night stay in Cairo cost taxpayers $95K”

If false, unfortunately more fuel for Donny –
If true in US$, they must have seen her coming and padded the bill? Outrageous!

A dream.

Georgia Rethug conversation – “Oprah! Oprah! Oprah! It’s as bad as Marsha! Marsha! Marsha! Wait until we bring out our Oprah. We do have one, don’t we?

Ours will have better name recognition, more followers, be smarter, more experienced, be better received by the public, and lalalalala….. Yeah, just wait.”

Elisabeth Grace today:

“A power play the day before Election Day? With transiting Mars (action) and Jupiter (expansion) about to make contact with the Midheaven and Ascendant of P45’s horoscope on November 6th and 7th, respectively, we’ll find out soon enough.”


“Trump is the man behind the curtain, except there is no curtain and he has no pants.”
– Nicolle Wallace –

Great Quote, Eliseo!
Nicolle Wallace grew up here in my town, Orinda, the San Francisco East Bay. And she is/was a very staunch Republican! I predict many Republican’s will be voting against Drump.
Paul Krugman has an excellent column, free on NYT.
He’s even responding to the many Comments:
“A Party Defined by It’s Lies”

A couple of things (transits) look troublesome for Cruz on Election Day:

Transiting Eris (discord, loves war) will be – and is now – conjunct his natal Ceres (what nourishes one) at 23+ Aries. Both are square US natal Mercury (votes) at 24+ Cancer.

Transiting Saturn will be – and is now – at 5+ Capricorn on Election Day, and is square Cruz’s natal Chiron at 5+ Aries. As Nancy said above, trans. Saturn is also square “El Loco’s” natal Neptune at 5+ Libra, and also opposite the US natal Jupiter at 5+ Cancer. US natal Jupiter is the US natal chart ruler. It could just be that all the hype over the midterm election is coming to an end and we are worn out; time to get serious (Saturn).

Transiting Saturn is also opposite Mueller’s natal Saturn at 5+ Cancer, like a full moon between Saturns. Full Moons expose something.

That is good news, barbk.

I wonder how things look for Ammar Najjar. I really hope he wins.


Linda G has a new video out and says Cruz seems confident he’ll win, but she sees him in tears on election night.

Excellent AXIOS will confront Trump Sunday on HATE:
“Drump doesn’t realize he’s rabblerousing people with his viciouness. Axio will likely repeat interview on it’s site”.
Clip: Exclusive: Trump says supporters demand his Red-Hot Rhetoric: https://www.axios.com/trump-axios-hbo-media-enemy-of-the-people-441ae349-3670-4f7d-b5d5-04d339a15f68.html

good, POV interview with staunch Reaganite republican strategist to share with your appropriate family members about the ‘man child’ and his supporters


““Trump is the man behind the curtain, except there is no curtain and he has no pants.”
– Nicolle Wallace –

…and truth be told, there is no man.

One thing for certain about Jupiter is that it is associated with abundance. It is also associated with foreigners. As transiting Jupiter starts his new cycle in Sagittarius – the sign he’s most comfortable in – one day after Wednesday’s Scorpio New Moon (and 2 days after the US midterm election), we should expect to hear more about the abundance of foreigners arriving at our southern border.

Jupiter is also associated with “the Big Picture” as opposed to “the Fine Details”; something more akin to Mercury. These days trans. Jupiter is in the process of starting a new cycle with trans. Mercury (they make 3 conjunctions, one last month, one this month and one next month). We are running the gamut of perspectives now; up close and personal details of a subject, and at the same time seeing the wider, longer perspective of the same subject.

Jupiter then is starting 2 cycles; one in a new sign and one with a partner; both lasting about one year. There is something else transiting Jupiter is doing; he is approaching his opposition to the US natal Uranus next month; just a few days before his 3rd and final conjunction with Mercury on Dec. 21, which is also the day of the Winter Solstice, when the transiting Sun enters Capricorn.

Oddly enough it was on the Winter Solstice in 2012 that trans Jupiter was CONJUNCT the US natal Uranus at 8+ Gemini. On that day (believed to be the end of the Mayan calendar; which Jude Cowell said was thought to be “a paradigm shift of some kind”) trans. Jupiter (conjunct US natal Uranus) at 8+ Gemini was at the apex point of a Yod (or Finger of God) pattern with transiting Saturn at 8+Scorpio sextile trans. Pluto 8+ Capricorn. Trans. Jupiter (and presumably US Uranus) would have to shift (paradigm?) in some way due to the pressure coming from trans Pluto and Saturn.

It strikes me as more than odd that transiting Saturn will be at 8+ Capricorn (where trans. Pluto was at the Winter Solstice in 2012) a few days before trans Jupiter opposes US natal Uranus at 8+ Gemini (where trans. Jupiter was at the Winter Solstice in 2012), and the final conjunction between Mercury (details) and Jupiter (big pix) next month.

I suspect all three events (Mercury-Jupiter cycle start, trans Jupiter opposite US Uranus, 2012 Winter Solstice) at that time in December will be connected in some way, perhaps a paradigm shift we watch either close up (Mercury) or wide angle (Jupiter) or both; perhaps having to do with an abundance of foreigners at our southern border.


[FULL] Real Time with Bill Maher November 02, 2018 (HBO)

Great panel, Barbra Streisand interview

“Wonderful to hear Obama speak up. His clarity and eloquence are sorely missed. One can only hope that we Americans who care about the health of this nation, and the well being of future generations, make our voices heard on Tuesday. Vote by vote, piece by piece, we can take our democracy back from the grifters and oligarchs that have taken it hostage. We must or our country as we know it, is doomed.”


Ja’s posting yesterday which referenced a “power play” on the Monday before the election, kind of got into my mind and stayed there. I felt a strong foreboding. Then on Rachel last night, there was a story about conflict of interest for the person who would take over if both Mueller and Rosenstein are fired. The person who would take over worked for the law firm that represents tRump and 6 MONTHS AGO they gave him a waiver for the usual ethical constraints that would have had him recuse himself. (I didn’t even know that was possible). Anyway, I think they may do the firings this weekend or Monday because the made Mueller defer everything til after the election. Just when I have seen what I think is the worst possible thing to see, something worse happens. I hope I am wrong, but everytime I hear someone say hopefully that after Tuesday we can hope again, I get this sinking feeling again that there is more evil ready to be rolled out.

Expansion of Possibilities

It might be instructive to look at Barack Obama’s chart. (Trans Jupiter conjunct MC / Uranus Quincunx MC). And yes, he is running: he is opposing a guy intent on destroying his legacy.

On election night I am seeing an unexpected expansion of possibilities: we see a reflection of his ability to blunt Trump and the growth of his influence on Democratic Party politics.

Julie nothing would surprise me at this point. I would think he would wait until after the midterms to avoid riling our base. Chaos is his brand so who knows.

Linda G has a new one Nov 3 right or wrong I find her very soothing. Funny that she said her spirit guides told her to do these videos to sooth like minded people. She said her final on the midterms may be on Tuesday. We will see.


My charts, though speculative, do show intense activity for the appointment and Mueller charts on Monday and surrounding days.

Mr Mueller did not just fall off the DC Turnip truck.

It may be that Mr Mueller has a political version of a “Dead Man’s Switch” in place that triggers a release of his findings to individuals or media, or both, if he is suddenly removed from his position.

My PAL chart for him on the 5th has his natal Sun/Pluto midpoint on it’s MC and the same chart with his secondary progressed natal has his progressed Pluto in it’s MC and his progressed Mars on it’s Asc.

The sky is not falling.

He may have already shared his findings with some others who will let them out in case his work is frozen if he is removed. I think he is thinking steps ahead of those he has been investigating.

From how he has been described by those who have known him and how he has conducted his career for decades I think that if he (Bob Mueller) has evidence showing the fact or likelihood of collusion by tRump with the Russians that, as a patriot, he would pull a “Patrick Henry” to serve the country and preserve the Republic, letting the chips fall where they may for himself.


The last 3 sentences of Patrick Henry’s speech:

“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”

Listen to the whole.


DT tweeted a Game of Thrones inspired “Sanctions are coming” dated November 5th 2018. The tweet is directed at Iran.

GOT has asked them to cease and desist using their graphics.

Iran has tweeted back using GOT graphics?

I can’t believe I am typing this. Could this be the power play?

Stacey Abrams is amazing! I sure hope she wins.
This interview is an hour, packed with smart insights/ideas – I find her very inspirational and so refreshing in these times

Did you remember to set your clocks back? It is a challenge to remember everything anymore; so much going on. I’m coming to appreciate just how much the outer planets are signaling that our lives will never be the same. Trans. Neptune blurs and confuses issues that were solidly understood once upon a time, and transiting Pluto has exposed brutal corruption to the light of day. It is Uranus though that gives us whiplash at least once a week if not daily.

By watching the outer planet transits it is fairly easy to spot trouble coming; less obvious is their participation in cycles which can affect us over time, especially their cycles with each other. The last of the 7 Uranus-Pluto squares (a product of the Uranus-Pluto conjunctions in the 1960’s which, by the way, were conjunct Mueller’s natal Mars-Chiron in Virgo) took place over 3 1/2 years ago but that energy – or the resulting effects of it – is a daily constant now.

Their square in March, 2015, Uranus in Aries and Pluto in Capricorn, directly impacted the US natal square of Sun in Cancer and Saturn in Libra, creating a challenging Cardinal Grand Cross for us from which there would be no escaping. Change was inevitable.

In the same month, March, 2015, there was a total eclipse of the Sun at 29+ Pisces that was conjunct Trump’s Vesta (what he is invested in) and likely Mueller’s Moon, and that total solar eclipse included the Uranus-Pluto square. Eclipse effects can last for years.

Not only did it affect the US natal chart’s Sun-Saturn square, it also impacted Trump’s natal Chiron-Juno (14+ Libra) and Putin’s natal Sun (13+ Libra) that conjunct the US natal Saturn (14+ Libra).

Jupiter in Leo in that eclipse chart was trine Uranus in Aries (exact on March 3 when Jupiter was conjunct Mueller’s natal Sun) and sextile US Saturn, Trump’s Chiron + Juno and as well, Putin’s Sun, all in Libra.

Two weeks later on April 4th, there was a total LUNAR eclipse at 14+ Libra (conjunct US Saturn, Trump’s Chiron-Juno, Putin’s Sun) which was opposite Sun-Uranus in Aries and square Pluto in Cap.

Looking back now, one might presume that there was activity between Putin and Trump that month which was more than just cordial, possibly regarding Trump’s run for US President.

In any case, the Uranus and Pluto vibes from that square 3 1/2 years ago has brought us to a midterm election, the likes of which have not been seen by any of us. Uranus has shaken both politicians and citizens of the US out of their torpor and Pluto has impassioned them.

Follow your bliss says Neptune.

‘here we believe’ campaign

Kiwi, ‘Here We Believe’ is beautiful, thank you.

With our U.S. President being a “Proud Nationalist”. And the horrendous growing number of Young White American Nationalists.
We must stay AWAKE. History must not repeat!
Watch When 20,000 American Nazis Descended Upon New York City 1939:


Michael Wolfstar:

“Robert Mueller’s horoscope (August 7, 1944; New York, NY; time unknown) indicates he’s ready to make a big move, with Mercury playing the central role.”


There is a big typo in the NewsScope report.

A sobering read on the ‘mindmaps’ of Americans these days – written from a very worried Canadian perspective (an article in The Walrus):


“….America is becoming two Americas, Americas which hate each other. If the Democrats represent a multicultural country grounded in the value of democratic norms, then the Republicans represent a white country grounded in the sanctity of property. The accelerating dislike partisans feel for the other side—the quite correct sense that they are not us—means that political rhetoric will fly to more and more dangerous extremes…..”

patty, pass it on . . . . . 🙂

Mueller’s big move may be subtle and beguiling. He may be blocked, but he already knows that.

If I were Mueller, I would make no big moves until the Democrats were firmly seated in Congress. He probably has secured most of his information in safe places. And if and when the election bodes well for the Democrats, he has essentially about 6 weeks to make sure his findings are secure. And then…

Another link to Nazi rally posted by patty With story.

During the rally, a Jewish man named Isadore Greenbaum rushed the stage.



How Journalists Covered the Rise of Mussolini and Hitler

Quote from Dorothy Thompson:

“No people ever recognize their dictator in advance,” she reflected in 1935. “He never stands for election on the platform of dictatorship. He always represents himself as the instrument [of] the Incorporated National Will.” Applying the lesson to the U.S., she wrote, “When our dictator turns up you can depend on it that he will be one of the boys, and he will stand for everything traditionally American.”


Hitler quote in article:

“I will get into power legally,” he said. “I will abolish this parliament and the Weimar constitution afterward. I will found an authority-state, from the lowest cell to the highest instance; everywhere there will be responsibility and authority above, discipline and obedience below.”

When did tRump first demand a loyalty oath from an underling?

Link (posted above and here) does not begin video at the beginning.


Read story first then:

Either click on tracer line at the beginning (far left) or at the end (far right [don’t be afraid]). If on the end click on replay and it will start at the beginning.

“From Michael Robbins :

A close look at the world situation will show the forces of darkness (as terrorism) arrayed against the Forces of Light. The situation is filled with complex national alliances, but suffice it to say that the Black Lodge is once again on the attack and those who stand with the Spiritual Hierarchy of the planet must do all in their power to defend the Four Freedoms articulated by that great disciple, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, which, the Tibetan tells us embodied as much of the Will of Shamballa as general humanity can possibly understand at this time. Wherever there is a broad-scale attack upon the Four Freedoms-Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Worship, Freedom from Want and Freedom from Fear-humanity is threatened. Such is the case today.”


“During the Kavanaugh hearings, as he melted down like a toddler at nap time, a lot of people asked how someone falsely accused of sexual assault should respond.

I give you Robert Mueller. Falsely accused. Asks the FBI to investigate. Period. End.

And… that’s how.”


I admit I was baffled. Usually I can get an idea (right or wrong) about an election result by checking the chart for the prevailing cycle of Mercury-Jupiter, but we are in the midst of a 3 month startup for the cycle of these two brain-related symbols.

Their 1st conjunction was on October 29th, the next one is on Nov. 27th, and the 3rd conjunction between Mercury and Jupiter is on December 21st, less than a half hour after Venus makes a grand trine with Neptune and the US natal Sun.

Wait, what?

Well, it seems that Neptune was at 13+ Pisces all 3 times Mercury was conjunct Jupiter, and Neptune was trine US natal Sun at 13+ Cancer each time.

Trans. Neptune stationed direct at 13+ Pisces on Nov. 25th. By the time Mercury conjuncts Jupiter in December, Neptune will have been in that degree for a solid 64 days, always trine the US natal Sun.

Therefore I predict a re-count in a number of States and we won’t know who won the House until after Christmas!!

Based on the Dec. 21 conjunction of Mercury and Jupiter, when Venus and Neptune make a grand trine with the US natal Sun, I predict the Dems will take the House.

Oh, and the Moon at 15+ Gemini will be conjunct the degree where trans. Venus occulted the trans. Sun in June 2012. You won’t see that happen again in your lifetime.

Anybody have a plan for how we’re going to get through the day tomorrow until the results come in?

Linda G said she is going to the movies to get defocused from the election tomorrow, and she sounded like she was serious. I have tickets to go to a presentation in town that begins at 7 CT and probably lasts through 9, including the questions and answer period. Many polls will have closed by then.

I am cautiously optimistic. I remember what happened with Hillary so I am not counting any chickens yet. But, even with Democratic successes, we had better govern for the whole country and, on some issues, from the center, to gain public confidence.

In Obama’s first year, with all 3 branches in Democratic hands, he put forth a controversial healthcare bill. Maybe if he had done a jobs bill first, we wouldn’t have lost the House after 2 years. I know a lot of people won’t agree with me, but we need to have a success rate, stay in power, and move fairly slowly or we will be voted out again.

My brother-in-law says that Trump understands marketing and PR and that is his secret. Well, so do the Republicans. I personally feel we should not give them something to use against us but, whatever we do, we need to know it’s going to make the country stronger economically as well as address sensible immigration policy. My brother-in-law also says that we are losing the battle of immigration with the Republicans getting away with saying Democrats want open-borders. We have to show them that isn’t the case. Just mho…

For example, gun control. We all want sensible policy but if Democrats are in control and we ban assault weapons right now, it may backfire (pun intended) against us. So, I would add that we have to support gun ownership and emphasize background checks and gun education policies, as well as finding a way to rule out access for those too vulnerable or unstable to be trusted with guns, such as young people and those who are mentally incapacitated. A big PR campaign for gun education might help, etc.

I especially don’t want to see Republicans in power who will enable Trump to be even more extreme if he should continue in office the next few years. He will feel he has a mandate.

Teresa, we don’t have “early voting” in KY so I plan to go vote (less than a mile from home) as soon as the rain lightens up, hopefully before noon. I can’t stand very long so I’m hoping the wait isn’t more than 1/2 hour. I’m considering taking a folding chair with me. After that I will come home and nap.

For anyone interested, here is a link to a lady who describes the 2012 “Venus occult (transit) the Sun” effect (there were 2 of them) quite well I think.


Teresa, we don’t have “early voting” in KY so I plan to go vote (less than a mile from home) as soon as the rain lightens up, hopefully before noon. I can’t stand very long so I’m hoping the wait isn’t more than 1/2 hour. I’m considering taking a folding chair with me. After that I will come home and nap.

For anyone interested, here is a link to a lady who describes the 2012 “Venus occult (transit) the Sun” effect (there were 2 of them) quite well I think.


Beth Owl’s Daughter:

“It is no exaggeration to say the future of a functioning democracy hinges on verifiable truth, which is currently imperiled.”


Sorry, try this:


It it works then scroll down to “June 2012” and click

“Based on the Dec. 21 conjunction of Mercury and Jupiter, when Venus and Neptune make a grand trine with the US natal Sun, I predict the Dems will take the House.”
Barb- Could we get more than a few governor positions in these close state races? You probably can’t tell because you would have to have the birth data on each of them. That’s too much. Virgo

I am voting at 6 am with my husband. I sent pizza to the field office where they are calling for Claire today.

Oxthecat: You are so thoughtful.

Virgo –

“The Forecast: Democrats are likely to do very well in governors’ races.”


So because i don’t live inTrinidad anymore, I’m out of touch with my holidays, and i just realized that tomorrow is my favorite holiday , a public holiday in our twin volunteer the Hindu main holiday. Most auspicious ,
Divali, all about light over dark, supposedly the darkest night of the year and it’s all so beautiful the symbolism…

Which then got me to thinking, voting day, wouldn’t this be just a good vibes thing for tomorrow

Well Virgo, I do have a good feeling the Dems could win several of those governor races, but little astrological data to back that up.

However, transiting Uranus was conjunct Stacey Abrams natal Sedna (2+ Taurus) when Uranus stationed retrograde last August, while transiting Venus will have conjoined her NATAL Uranus at 26+ Libra (opposite her natal Mars 26+ Aries) 3 times by Thanksgiving. I look for her to have a surprise victory in the Georgia Governor’s race.

In fact, the US natal asteroid House is at 25+ Libra and that’s the degree transiting Venus will occupy when she stations direct on November 16, leading me to believe there will be numerous women newly elected to the House of Reps.

Sharon K,
1. For everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven:
2. a time to be born, and a time to die;
a time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted;
3. a time to kill, and a time to heal;
a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4. a time to weep, and a time to laugh;
a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5. a time to throw away stones, and a time to gather stones together;
a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6. a time to seek, and a time to lose;
a time to keep, and a time to throw away;
7. a time to tear, and a time to sew;
a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8. a time to love, and a time to hate;
a time for war, and a time for peace.

Kohelet – Ecclesiastes – Chapter 3

Despite my primarily Far Left leanings I agree with you entirely. IMHO now is a time to be moderate. ALL of us, be we Conservative, Moderate, Liberal or Other tend to get excited over issues we believe in while not realizing how many others are not on board, are unaware of the basic facts, etc. Also, in our enthusiasm we tend to advocate and sometimes pass feel-good laws which are in reality fairly ineffective, and/or sometimes counter productive to our intentions.

Wisdom dictates that to accomplish our goals we need to get blue collar workers on board with those same goals. That requires time and education we’ve not yet done.

RI also has no early voting. May I suggest that you take a folding chair AND an umbrella and a few healthy snacks.

Fingers crossed.

Yes, Eliseo, and I wish it were a time to gather stones together and a time for peace, but that is going to take time, I guess, unless God intervenes.

This article rings true. It’s a pretty good treatment of how angry white men are projecting their anger and other primative emotions on “the other”.


And then there’s the armed militia group in GA, the III%, who have threatened violence if Abrams wins. I hope the nat’l guard are being called up for this.

Just had a thought . . . .
I wonder if some creative street performer types etc, etc, etc, could turn the chore of waiting in long lines to vote, into joyful, fun, uplifting, sidewalk ‘parties.’? Meet and greet opportunities for communities?
Instead of being a chore, it could become the ‘in’ place to be in future elections?

Super cool idea KIWi, how awesome would that be?!?

We don’t have early voting in South Carolina, either, but even if we did, i’d Still wait. I love voting in person on Election Day. It’s exciting to me. And we need more dog food. That’ll eat up a few minutes.

I may hop on my elliptical and go as long as I possibly can, to eat up time and for the stress relief.

We have so many great first-time candidates. I’m so proud and grateful to them. Feels like a new wave or youth, optimism, integrity, plain-speaking. People stepped up big for this election. Want so much for those new voices to make it.

Wishing everyone a peaceful and very civil, democratic, day tomorrow, from across the border. May cooler heads prevail in the voting booths, together with many, many of those heads (and feet) getting themselves to the polls. And voting for common sense on many fronts. The whole world is watching!

Many have been suspicious as to why Russian interference has been so “quiet.” Maybe it is because the cautiously expected Dem Blue wave in the House of Reps. is in their interest. They seek to foment conflict and chaos within the body politic. A divided Congress probably serves their purposes, as would a president under serious congressional investigation. It would keep our focus on ourselves while they get away with whatever they are quietly undertaking.

Please don’t misunderstand. I’m FOR those House investigations. But at least temporarily it weakens a president, which likely pleases the kleptocrat criminals in the Kremlin.

I have noticed that the negative ads on social media has been toned down dramatically, where before in 2016, the non-stop constant mean targeting Hillary ads.
On Twitter, someone had a campaign video that showed the man had the shaved look of a Middle Eastern male with the beard. One comment said: he looks radicalized. – and that disappeared very shortly after.
Glad to see that they are monitoring content closely.

Please Join With Us for an American Election Meditation Vigil and for a Global Moment of 5-minutes Silence on the 6th of November (STARTS 6 A.M. EST)

Dearest Sisters and Brothers Upon the Path for a New Aquarian Civilization!

We will meditate with the World Group on the re-emergence of True American Values— Humanitarian Values in line with the Divine Plan.

We start on the 6th of November at 11:00 am GMT/UT. We will be meditating during all hours when polls are open and stop when the last polling place closes in California/Alaska. Our progress will be from the East Coast to the West Coast and Alaska. We will finish at approximately 4:00 am GMT/UT on November 7th, perhaps allowing a little time for those who may be in-line when the polling place closes but who will be allowed to vote. You can come and go as you wish. The link will be active all these hours”.




Thanks Angellight! Thoughts Have Wings!
Please send Blue-Wave Thoughts to Beto O’Rourke!
Texas GOP are now doing everything possible to obstruct Beto’s chance to lead. Pushing Ted Cruz a weak, lazy leader. While many young, even elder Texans have been inspired by Beto’s passion and enthusiasm! We need O’Rourk’s leadership on our Southern Border now more than ever!
Please *Think-Blue* for Beto periodically Today!

Trump’s GOP Braces for Midwest Massacre!
While Democrats are rebuilding their vaunted ‘Blue Wall’ in 2018: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/06/2018-election-trump-gop-midwest-222219

patty: Will send victorious energy to Beto. O’Rourke for a victory in Texas Senate race today and tonight.

The Republican Party Natal Chart/ March 20, 1854 6:30 pm LMT Ripon, Wisconsin

Regarding the Republican Party’s chart Astroblog notes: “Neptune returns to its original degree and minute, 14 ’01 Pisces, in May, 2017. Because Neptune in the natal chart is in the 6th house, the Neptune return brings out the critical question, who are you serving? ”

Jude Cowell writes: “Neptune Returns to 14Pis01: 1. May 17, 2017; 2. July 16, 2017 Rx; 3. March 6, 2018 (this chart); 4. October 20, 2018 Rx; and, 5. December 29, 2018. It will be interesting to monitor the condition of the Republican Party by the end of 2018 into 2019 for astrological Neptune, a karmic planet with a 164-year cycle, represents idealism and spiritualism but may also signify fraud, dissolution, and/or loss.”

Note that first exact Neptune return date – MAY !7, 2017. That day happened to coincide with Robert Mueller’s appointment as Special Counsel to the Russian investigation. It’s quite a remarkable coincidence.

Fast-forward to November 16th, 2018. Here’s the chart: https://astrologyking.com/mercury-retrograde/ Tr. Mercury stations retrograde at 13 ’29 Sagittarius in close square to tr. Neptune at 13 ’42 Pisces (within 19 minutes of conjunction to the Republican party’s natal Neptune). Tr. Nodes at 29 ’09 Cancer-Capricorn is at the midpoint of this Neptune-Mercury square forming a t square to tr. Uranus – 29 ’36 Aries. Could there be a significant development in the Mueller investigation come November 16th? It should be an interesting date to watch.

Thanks Virgo.

Voted this am. Lines like a Presidential election.
Very diverse group. Lines moved quickly and I did not have to stand very long at all.

Linda G has a new one up, very brief. I hope she is right.

I suspect Beto is RFK reborn. His motivation stems from RFK’s unfinished life and very focused goals. Win or lose today, Beto probably has a very bright and serious future in American politics.

Robert Francis Kennedy 11/20/1925 – 6/6/1968
Robert Francis (Beto) O’Rourke born 9/26/1972

Beto’s facial structure and RFK’s are essentially the same. Beto was named Robert Francis O’Rourke after his grandfather who had the same name. He was called Beto to distinguish him from his namesake. Beto’s mother was the stepdaughter of Fred Korth, Secretary of the Navy under President JFK.

I wish Starlight would have posted a new piece by now.

I know that in past elections it’s been useful to look at the charts of candidates and ordinary people to see how happy or disappointed they are immediately after.

Has anyone here had a chance to do that?

Eliseo, I too have been struck with Beto’s RFK ‘echo’ since I first saw him and heard him speak.
I feel he has the potential for greatness

Voting was very easy for me

Others across the Nation not always easy…


You can send pizza to people waiting long lines via pizza.polls. I sent a pie. They have been delivering everywhere all day long.

The correct look up is Pizza to the Polls.

. . . more cases of voting impediments – here are 3 examples – you’d think some states wanted a 3rd world dictatorship?

“The State of Georgia now admits that power cords were not provided for the voting machines here. ”
“My mom also said that in Fort Greene all but one scanner is broken so there’s 200 people waiting to scan their ballot at one machine”
“When voters in Detroit arrived at Martin Luther King Jr. High School to cast their ballots this morning, they were greeted with an empty room. There were no voting machines to be found. The machines were eventually located in a locked closet for which no one had the key. In the 90 minutes it took to resolve the situation, a number of would-be voters left without voting”

Perseverance, courage, and keeping a sense of humor required

We voted early here in North Carolina. My husband chose to vote on a Friday morning when he thought there would not be much of a line. I had surgery to repair my Achilles tendon (pulled it off the bone in a fall on 9/11). I am in a cast and using a knee scooter. As soon as we pulled up to park, a poll worker noticed the scooter in the back of our car and told us to stay where we were. North Carolina has curb side voting! A poll worker came out to greet us, took our names & address. She brought out our ballots in a manila folder with a clipboard and pen. We voted and returned all to her. She took our ballots inside, had them registered, and brought us our “I Voted” stickers. Apparently not every state does this, but what a huge help for me.

I watched this interview this morning and she made me cry. The emotions of this woman are all of ours. Love her comments that Beto “represents everything that Donald Trump isn’t” and “…we still have a chance to have a decent country with decent values with decent relationships with other people.” Bless her….


Be patient my dears, Time is ruled by Saturn and right now transiting Saturn is opposite the US Jupiter, or would you say the US Jupiter is opposite transiting Saturn?

Transiting Venus and transiting Ceres (27+ Libra) are trine the US Moon today which could mean support for all the US People, or maybe specifically US women.

Trans Ceres (climate/nurture) and Venus (values), the later of which is retrograde, also square US natal Pluto, so don’t you imagine they are forerunners of the approaching US Pluto Return? Aren’t these goddesses signalling a challenge to the old guard that the old game is never going to be played the same way again?

When the US solar return took place last July trans. Ceres was at 1+ Virgo conjunct trans Transpluto at 2+ Virgo, and Transpluto symbolizes the process of becoming whole. In the US Solar Return that would be the Nation becoming whole and Ceres was nurturing Transpluto in that US solar return chart.

Ceres and Transpluto in the US solar return were in a grand trine (earth) with Pallas (planner) and Uranus (breakthrough) in Taurus and Saturn in Capricorn. Ask yourself, what better plan (Pallas) than a US election of governors, reps and senators that would produce a breakthrough (Uranus) in the status quo (Saturn)?

Indeed, in the US SOLAR RETURN chart the Moon (women, the masses, feelings) conjunct Chiron (wound) at 2+ Aries (new beginnings) and as well, conjunct the US NATAL chart IC (roots), were quincunx (adjustment) Ceres and Transpluto and motivated to take on that challenge and break through the status quo.

So, here we are, just hours away from knowing who will take on those Governorship roles, those Senatorial and House seats that will move the US out of the morass in which our government is unable to even move in. Are we becoming whole yet? Time will tell; only time will tell.

Father Time Saturn is today at 5+ Capricorn, just where he was in July at the US Solar Return. From Dane Rudhyar’s book “An Astrological Mandala” the Sabian Symbol for 5+ Capricorn (aka 6 Cap):

Keynote: The need to complete any undertaking before seeking entrance to whatever is to be found beyond. Rudhyar refers to it as a “threshold”.

Eliseo, I too thought that Beto might be RFK incarnated. I see he is born on my birthdate 9/26.

Well, I’m feeling much calmer than I did a week ago. Not sure why but I’m grateful.

Kept meaning to tell you guys, one of my options today was to vote for a state house seat for a woman who’s a former missionary/beauty queen. Never seen the in a candidate bio before. (Will note, she still has her 80s big hair.)

My precinct had 500-600 voters total in 2016. Today, mid-afternoon, I was voter No. 1100. Now, if only I knew who showed up — Republican voters or Democrats.

Grace Astrology;

“Here’s the layout for Tuesday”



” this stunt by Trump and Fox is really a new low in blatant, unapologetic bias and partisanship. The notion that they have any business referring to themselves as ‘news’ is, frankly, ludicrous.”

Kiwi, Angellight,
RFK was overshadowed by his older brother, JFK who had won a Pulitizer as a young man for his bestseller “Why England Slept.” Nevertheless, RFK was as good as a literary and history talent as his brother, and IMHO the most creative of the Kennedy brothers. He was unique in his ability to transcend political ideology, taking issues to a higher moral plane. Had he become president I believe he would have been as transformational as FDR.

Beto’s degree is in Literature, another interesting coincidence. He is in the beginning stages of his political career. His public career is likely to be quite interesting, certainly worth observation. Win or lose today, I suspect his star will continue to rise. Who knows? Maybe he’s our guy for the Presidency in 2020 or 2024?

steve judd sees confusion, messiness, deliberate obstruction of facts, etc, in the days,weeks, following the election
– we shall see what we shall see – this too shall pass . . . . . .

Eliseo, Beto as future presidential material has certainly crossed my mind – ’24 would be my bet.

Forget the election (yeah, I know you can’t…), but this is real news…Anybody know anything about a body called Oumuamua?


A post by a commentator on the above site: 06/11/2018 at 17:30
………While O.T., here’s a recent and very interesting paper/letter detailing some extraordinary observations of the first confirmed interstellar visitor to our solar system, Oumuamua. Since it’s first discovery in 2017 following a path that led to interstellar space, Oumuamua accelerated during it’s passage through our Solar system in such a way that defies any “standard” explanation were it an asteroid or a comet. If it was a comet with outgassing being the principle energy source for the acceleration, then there should have been some type of gasseous chemical signature…but there there was absolutely nothing detected…despite being only 0.25 a.u. at it’s closest approach to the Sun and unusually bright (which argues against the asteroid theory as well, since asteroids are dark and don’t typically accelerate themselves). So, if it wasn’t a comet with jets, then what would be causing the acceleration? The Solar Wind’s effect on a solid mass this size would be negligible considering the magnitude of acceleration that was measured, so that leaves only Solar Radiation Pressure as the only likely explanation for Oumuamua’s acceleration. However, if Solar Radiation Pressure was indeed creating the excess acceleration, then to account for it’s brightness, the structure of Oumuamua has to be sub-millimeter in thickness over a huge area! And, given that Oumuamua’s light curve shows it to be rotating (6-8 hr. period), how something so thin could maintain it’s structural integrity despite the tinsel/centrifugal stress and tidal forces requires a material with a composition that is currently unknown in nature.
So, if this thing is indeed an ultra-thin sheet of some type of mass less than a millimeter thick that is capable of sailing on Solar Radiation, what’s the possibility that Oumuamua is of alien design? An intriguing possibility that the authors actually get into..something we don’t ordinarily see in research papers like this.
Anyway, with Oumuamua now well on it’s way to who-knows-where, we’ll never really know whether this thing was artificial or not, but the data is compelling enough that regardless, this thing was unlike anything mankind has seen before.

Scientific article referred to is by:
Shmuel Bialy and Abraham Loeb
Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, 60 Garden st., Cambridge, MA, 02138
Draft version November 1, 2018


But, of course, there are counter arguments to the above, though it’s certainly a pretty spaced-out time right now! The scientists will continue to scratch their heads about Oumuamua and, meanwhile, here on Terra-not-so-firma, DT will continue his spaced out ways, but perhaps with fewer supporters as of today.

And yes, Stephen Colbert featured the mystery…..


And here’s the TED talk, which is stellar!


And here’s the TED talk, which is stellar!


I’m not surprised, but still a little down tonight about the continued dominance of the godawful GOP here in Ohio. Cordray lost to DeWine. He may have been the Dems’ best hope here of taking back the governorship in a decade.

So, we get another crusty old male chauvinist goon as a governor, and I’m sure his first act will be to go after the remaining abortion clinics, because Republicans.

The corruption stinks to high heaven in this state, and that party is at the center of it, and so what, Ohioans shrug. Oh yeah, Ohio State’s playing. Go bucks!

Sharon K,
This is what you mentioned the other day.

The Democrats Won the House. Now What?


2024 or even 2028 sounds about right for Beto, the caveat being we haven’t looked at his chart and progressions for those time periods. I suspect 2020 too soon. He needs more experience and a bit longer track record before he runs for president.


Divisive Trump era ushers record number of women into House

“A record number of women were elected to the House on Tuesday,…”

“There was also a historic gender gap that showed women more supportive of Democrats than Republicans. According to VoteCast, women voted considerably more in favor of their congressional Democratic candidate: About 6 in 10 voted for the Democrat, compared with 4 in 10 for the Republican. Men, by contrast, were more evenly divided in their vote.”


Democrats gain governors’ seats, but GOP holds some states
By DAVID A. LIEBNovember 7, 2018

I predict many people were very inspired by Beto’s exciting Election and will now be enthusiastically looking forward to being part of future American Elections.

“The Success in Beto’s Failure”
O’Rourke gave Texans who have long felt disenfranchised a glimpse of what could be”.


From WaPO: “Quoting Ben Stein, Trump touts himself as ‘the magic man’”
It’s possible Trump’s “optimism, contentment, and possibly a lack of judgement” following the election is due to his not understandinghow gov’t works — he just knows people are saying nice things about him on TV…

Gillum did not win, and I was afraid of that. I am trying to focus on all of my blessings. 1. It is possible that I could escape this state before the great environmental crisis gets worse. 2. The Democrats did win the house. Abigail Spanberger did defeat that egotistical Dave Brat. 3. Lucy McBath might win over mean Karen Handel. 4. Leonard Lance was defeated and the Kremlin’s congressman might lose also. 5. Lastly, Scott Walker finally had to give up his crown. Milwaukee just happened to find thousands of absentee ballots for the Democrat at the last minute (Sounds like the kind of thing Walker has done at least once before.)

Watch to get picked up.

I have not been a follower of Morning Joe but this has good news from political veterans.


MORNING JOE [6AM] 11/7/18 | MSNBC NEWS 48:04

Some are down because Democratic favorites did not get elected but the fact is that given the opposition they faced and the location they were in they were not favored.

The election played out exactly how almost everyone thought it would – Democrats took control of the House away from Republicans and Republicans kept the Senate.

The longest journey begins with just 1 step. The journey through 2019 begins in early January.

“MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell said on his program last week that Democrats winning the House means “Donald Trump is going to be more terrified than he has ever been in his life, and Robert Mueller is going to be instantly more empowered knowing that a Democratic House of Representatives will not ignore his report the way a Republican House of Representatives would try to and probably succeed in ignoring it.”

Thank you Bob, I woke up (after 6 1/2 hours of sleep; longest stretch in at least 4 years) with 2 thoughts: (1) I must look at the Saturn-Uranus cycle chart(s), and (2) we (the nation) have taken a toddler step forward in our climb up and out of the quagmire that has developed over the last 70+ years.

“Breaking: The @RepDeSantis and @AndrewGillum fight is not over for the Florida governorship. The Gillum camp offers numbers are closer with a difference of 15 Thousand votes between the two. @AndrewGillum folks contend they are not giving up! More votes remain to be counted.”


Well, as some have pointed out, the results are what we should have expected and it is a toddler step forward and good for the Mueller investigation.

However, especially living in Florida, i am deeply disappointed about the governor and senate race, though both are in recounts now.

So there was good , and there were disappointments , Beto the most, but somehow the feeling i have is not as Linda G predicted dancing in the streets, but that instead and disappointingly so, this has not been a total rebuke on Trumpism. It should have been worse for Trump, his strategy of sticking to rallying where the senate races were seemed to win. Is he emboldened or is he scared?

How were the psychic predictions, did anyone check as to who was or wasn’t accurate?

Linda G ended up saying that should Beto not win, this was only the beginning of his political rise, so she did see that possibility.

Dems flipped SEVEN (7) governorships!


I am disappointment mainly that the country is STILL so red. There are Conservatives for whom religion and abortion are the major issues (many Hispanics in FL are very religious) and that determines their vote. Environment? Eh! I don’t get that. In Genesis, God makes us stewards of the Earth. Why is that so conveniently left out….let alone the emphasis to love and help thy neighbor, found in the Old Testament and the very basis of Christianity in the New.

Thank you everyone. I was just tired. I have been working most of everyday, for Gillum, for weeks. I just took a nap and feel much better. Also, it looks like Tester is going to pull it out. Yeah! I admire Tester’s authenticity, and Tester’s victory is another Trump defeat. Good news about Gillum and Rosen.

I will have to do this from memory but I think that Linda R was pretty accurate, she saw a lot of people losing that I did not think would lose. Diane Seigal? sp had a last reading that said maybe Beto would win and maybe other people would win but was not definitive about the House or Senate. She also said maybe for Gilliam I think. I remember a lot of maybes in her final reading.

Violetta was very good. She said it was going to be very very close and therefore hard to predict.

Linda G in her last reading said that she could not be sure of her predictions because everything looked so close and she could not be sure about Beto because what she was seeing could also be a presidential run.There was rampant cheating in Texas. She also said in a previous that we would get enough to take over the house with a heavy emphasis on “enough”. She did say shock and awe and there were shocks. She was wrong about Claire McCaskill and she was wrong about the Tennessee race. I think she was wrong about a couple of other races too. I am wondering about the power outages in Tennessee.

Nelson will not concede Gilliam says that he is close enough for a recount? Simeria sp is within 15,000 votes and may lose to lying McSally. 30,000 people voted Green in Arizona.
Looks like Stacy A in Georgia my have a run off on December 4th??

Given the terrain we had to cover with gerrymandering and CHEATING we should be dancing in the streets. I am too tired today. This was never an easy climb.

To sum up most of the psychics in the end thought it would be close or too close to make a definitive decision.

As far as psychics go as I think that I felt that right or wrong it was still comforting on some level. I think you can take it all with a grain of salt.

Absolutely grateful that we have taken the House. We have a body of government that will have a check on the criminal in the WH.

Nancy did say, “Astrologically, it is very hard to get a clear picture of what is ahead. I see no consistent picture of misery from the Democratic side that I would expect if we lost both Houses of Congress. Nor do I see a resounding celebration that would point to a huge win. Indeed, there seems to be enough indication of some positive results that I do believe we will take the House back from the GOP, though likely not the Senate.”

Nancy’s analysis succinctly stated what occurred last evening. Much gratitude, Nancy!

Anyone listening to this train wreck of a press conference? Per trump, total victory for Republicans. He is great. People like him. Candidates he supported won (not all true). Candidates who did not want him to campaign with all lost. Talk about creating his own reality.

My own feeling as to why the repubs did better than we had hoped can be laid at the feet of the red media – even those tinged with blue constantly focused on trump instead of ignoring him. Many of trump rally supporters don’t do issue nuance very well, they love cute non-thinking soundbites, and just constantly saw him on tv and followed his ‘buy me, buy me, buy me’ overload message – if you get my drift.
That’s how he managed to get so much free coverage the first time – the for profit media in large part hasn’t learned the folly of going down that rabbit hole – he’s so good for their short term profits too.
The good news is that changes are now happening on a local level – more state governorships (that was the rabid right’s strategy from the 90’s, training future repub candidates & staff at all those fundy universities). And, they have a slew of about 20 of the 30 senators up for election in the senate in 2020.
I think the best strategy for the dems is to focus intently on their local state/county political health, and the federal change likely will follow.
Who was it that said ‘all politics are local’?

Did you feel that shudder? That was transiting Uranus moving back into Aries and away from the confines of the 5 degree orb of its trine with transiting Saturn. This was the easy part. Trines are easy.

Saturn is the structure, the dependable, that which keeps us on track. Uranus is the unpredictable, the breakthrough that lets the fresh air and light into the confined space. This was the easy part of their cycle that began in 1988 when they were conjunct very near the Galactic Center in Sagittarius.

That is where transiting Pholus is now; Pholus being the centaur best known for opening a bottle of sacred wine without the permission of the other centaurs, bringing on a disaster that led to much death and destruction. Pholus is associated with a transcending of limitations leading to change and purposefulness.

So what’s next in the Saturn-Uranus cycle? Their next major aspect is the square, 3 exact squares in 2021, starting in February. They also come very, very close to a 4th square in February, 2022. Squares are harder to work with than trines, especially squares in fixed signs which trans. Saturn and Uranus will be in. Toddler steps.


A well known Democrat (Natch).

Famously and often used by former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Tip (Thomas P.) O’Neill (1912-1994).


But he was not the first to say it.


I am glad Scott Walker is gone.

Ralfee Finn:

“The next couple weeks are certain to be bumpy with adjustments on both sides of the polarized landscape—no matter what the election results, we are in the foothills of the American Revolution 2.0.”


Oxthecat, Thank you SO much for working so hard for Gillum. Undoubtedly, it contributed to him doing so well. May he prevail.

I also think it was Barb who pointed out there would be a problem with several election results that would not be decided right away.

My husband has read, and I see this point, that the Kavanaugh hearings helped the Republicans to get out the vote and results may have been different if events hadn’t transpired that way. I, personally, would have liked to have seen something more solid that could have reinforced Dr. Blasey-Ford’s testimony. I’m not sure that even the FBI extending of the investigation would have helped enough. If it were the Democrats who leaked her letter, I think it was a mistake. We needed more to get him to be rejected as a candidate. I imagine, though, that things happened the way they were supposed and much good also came out of it.

Regarding the dem & Kavanaugh protests – I felt at the time some should have exhibited a bit more decorum or it would backfire.
Blasey Ford was so dignified but some of the protesters were a presented on TV like ‘hysterical women’ attacking elected officials, turning too many against the message, which was opportunistically used by trump.
Trump is like a vampire feeding off other’s anger, and like the biblical demons who feed off anger, he draws strength from it to use against his enemies. You see him so clearly energized at his anger fest rallies.
We need to keep that in mind going forward.
If there is such a thing as demon energy, I believe he is well and truly tapped into that source.

Marjorie this morning:

“BREAKING: Democratic Sen. Jon Tester won reelection in Montana, despite President Trump and Donald Trump Jr. repeatedly traveling to the state to campaign against Tester.”


Thanks so much to those of you who worked for Andrew Gillum. Remember, he wasn’t even supposed to win his primary. He was supposed to come in third, if I remember correctly. Wasn’t even on anyone’s radar.

He roared into the national spotlight. He’s upbeat, articulate, relatable, inspiring. He came within a breath of winning (and he’s not conceding this morning — saying there are a lot of votes to be counted, same with Nelson in the Florida Senate race).

Win-or-lose, Gillum is young. He’s still the mayor of Tallahassee. He isn’t going anywhere. We’ll see him again running for governor or the House or Senate.

I feel like he’s part of a new generation of Democrats. Beto. Amy McGrath. Stacey Abrams, Lucy … someone in the 6th in Georgia who got into politics after her child was shot and killed, and she just had to do something, and is headed for a recount with a narrow lead.

We had one of those young, enthusiastic, inspiring, welcoming, plain-spoken guys running in the 1st District in South Carolina of all places. Took on a race people thought he was crazy to run. Mark Sanford’s old seat.

But Sanford, surprisingly, lost in the primary to an all-out-for Trump loony mean girl named Katie Arrington, and last night, he beat her! He and his pretty, young wife, with the baby she gave birth to during the campaign and their good-looking dog. They’re look like people marketing experts would put in an ad for the all-American family. Just wholesome and happy and nice.

He’d have a beer with Beto, invite the Gillums over for a cookout, welcome enthusiastically those 100 women who will show up to work with him in congress, stand up anyone trying to put children in cages.

This is our new generation of Democrats. They’re going to be inclusive and people are going to like them. They’re going to bring even more younger people into the party and help us build a majority.

If you’re new to politics, I have to tell you, sadly, that you will get your heart broken over election after election. It’s just the way it is. You’ll want to lose hope and give up. Don’t do that.

Change comes too slowly for all of us. Some people say the founding fathers deliberately made it hard to change anything because they wanted to slow us down. (With Trump as president, we can all be grateful for everything the founding fathers put in his way, even though some parts of our government abdicated their responsibilities.)

But I’m more enthusiastic than sad about last night’s results.

Remember this, too — we just survived two full years of Donald Trump’s Presidency while he had a Republican majority in both the House and Senate!

We had no protections except for a handful of justice department and FBI officials, with Trump firing people left and right.

That’s huge.

We have real power to check him now. This is a huge change.

“Here’s something novel: Trump says he won’t work with House Dems on legislation unless they halt plans to investigate him. ‘We’re not doign both,’ he vows”


The firings are beginning, Sessions just “resigned”.

My daughter described the presser today as a “temper tantrum”, which I guess is a notch higher than the usual snarling and insanity.

Sessions just resigned at the request of Agent Orange

I think the Kavanaugh hearings inspired both Democratic women and conservative Republicans . If Democrats had chosen to endorse Kavanaugh without question, Democrats would have antagonized many democratic sexual abuse survivors, without necessarily gaining from the conservative Republicans. During this election, I think the red rural areas were also motivated, by Trump’s call to racism via immigration. Majorie Orr and Starlight both suggest difficulties ahead for Trump, which will affect us all. Maybe the hardships he imposes upon us will ultimately serve to unite us.

I think someone at MSNBC must be an astrologer or have an astrologer friend, because they keep giving us specific times for big events.

2:46 p.m. for the announcement of Jeff Sessions firing/resignation, they said.

a worry – with dems diminished presence in the senate, will trumsters be able to ram thru confirmation of Session’s replacement more easily?
Anyone know the expected effective departure date?

Teresa, I think that was for the office pool on when Sessions would be out.

Jeff Sessions natal Jupiter 19+ Scorpio is quincunx his natal Uranus 19+ Gemini. Add in transiting Pluto at 19+ Capricorn – sextile Sessions Jupiter, while also quincunx Sessions’ natal Uranus – you have a Yod with Sessions Uranus in Gemini at the apex, WHERE ADJUSTMENT MUST BE MADE.

Also, Sessions natal Mars at 5+ Cap is where trans. Saturn is. Both oppose US natal Jupiter and Mueller’s natal Saturn at 5+ Cancer. COMPROMISE IS CALLED FOR.

In today’s New Moon (15+ Scorpio) Vesta (what is invested in) is conjunct Pluto and both trine US natal Vesta at 19+ Taurus which then is opposite Sessions natal Jupiter in Scorpio. What does US Vesta invest in?

US Vesta is in the US chart’s 5th house, near the cusp of the 6th house, so creative things are supported by US Vesta’s presence in the 5th house. Hmmm . .

With trans. Pluto and Vesta (now in US 2nd house of valued belongings) in Capricorn trine US Vesta in Taurus in the 5th house, while trans. Pluto and Vesta also sextile Sessions natal Jupiter in Scorpio, it could benefit Sessions in some way.

Could Sessions be interrogated by Mueller? Is there enough time before Mueller’s investigation is thwarted?

Teresa Hill,
“I think someone at MSNBC must be an astrologer or have an astrologer friend, because they keep giving us specific times for big events.”

I don’t know about the others, but I’ve long suspected Rachel Maddow is secretly a follower of astrology. On a few occasions she has mentioned mercury retrograde, and other astrological effects, but always in a conceptually comparative sense, so as not to reveal her actual beliefs.

When we listen carefully, public figures sometimes inadvertently and obliquely refer to their private, unconventional beliefs. As one example, decades ago Dan Rather mentioned in an aside that Charles de Gaulle literally believed himself to be the reincarnation of Joan of Arc. Whether
de Gaulle was correct or not is of course an entirely different matter.

One evening on the Tonight Show, Tony Randall totally confused Johnny Carson by mentioning his clairvoyant experience, i.e. seeing sounds, hearing and feeling colors, etc. (His experience seemed to me to be examples of synesthesia.) T. Randall quickly dropped the subject and moved on to other subjects. At the end of his life Randall had nevertheless concluded there was no continuation of consciousness.

Actor, Rip Torn intensely believes in astrology. It is essentially his private religion.

(NYT Says: Don’t Impeach Trump, Dems)
“House Democrats Can Constrain Trump. They Can Also Overreach”.

Yet, What about ‘The Emoluments Clause’?
Drump’s making money had over fist with OUR BEAUTIFUL HISTORIC POST OFFICE which he bought as he was planning a Presidential Run and is cashing-in with huge profits?

Old Post Office (Washington, D.C.)

More Post Office Ads:


‘AND The Emoluments Clause’?https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/what-is-the-emoluments-clause-does-it-apply-to-president-trump/2017/01/23/12aa7808-e185-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6dc1b72da619

I’m not sure if anyone posted this yet, it’s pretty intense.


“If you don’t think Mueller had a plan for when Jeff Sessions was fired, then you don’t understand Mueller.

A new Acting Attorney General can’t do squat if there are already sealed indictments, which there almost certainly are.

Trump is in over his head. He just doesn’t know it.” https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/1060282745706954752


I was thinking it was one of the producers, who kept telling the anchors to include specific times for events.

I don’t have the expertise to do the astrological analysis of this stuff, so I figure one way I can help is keeping my ears open for specific times and dates for you guys. Can’t remember now who I’ve gotten those from on MSNBC. But it’s like when anything big happens, and I’m listening and wondering about the time and/or date, they give it to me.

Teresa Hill,
Who Knows?
Maybe Rachel is not the only one.

trumps pick to replace sessions

I agree. I think this is one step further in the demise of the orange thing. Mueller does know what he’s doing. This will backfire.

In the meantime I am donating to Stacy Abram’s campaign and Bill Nelson’s recount.

One step at a time…

I am glad Abrams and Nelson are not conceding.

Unfortunately Beto lost, but not by much, and the Texas House receives several Democratic representatives and my Texas Senator (to Texas Legislature) was replaced by a Democrat. Not the one I wanted but she will do. Beto didn’t win but he did a lot of good mobilizing.

Now they are pulling Jim Acostas WH press credentials because they say he “put his hands on an intern”. Wow this is some real malignant narcissistic flying monkey BS

The woman in question tried to physically pull the mike out of JA’s hands and he defended himself.
Narcissists and their flying monkey minions do things like this. Accuse you of doing what they did. Classic bullying. There is a lot of information on narcissists and flying monkeys on you tube. I think a lot of DT’s supporters are flying monkeys.

He must be in full panic mode. DTjr said he thinks he is going to be indicted.

I agree Lamis one step at a time.

oxthecat, Karl Rove used to pull press credentials when they had someone doing a negative story. This forced the entire WH press corp to toe the line. But I don’t think he ever did it to anyone so visible as a Jim Acosta.

I hope LG won!

ja, thanks for the link to Jessica Murray’s newest article on Saudi Arabia. I was amazed to see that the Saudi chart’s Pluto at 17+ Gemini trines the US PROGRESSED Mars, the US Constitution chart’s Neptune and Trump’s natal Jupiter, all at 17+ Libra, while it conjuncts Trump’s natal Uranus. It’s a small world after all.

Jessica says: “The resulting scandal has all the ingredients of a Plutonian farce: a muckraking reporter, a gory murder, a series of bumbling cover-ups.” Much the same could be said of the US at present – a farce of a Presidency that Hollywood couldn’t duplicate in its wildest dreams.

Perhaps that’s the whole idea; the gods and goddesses said let’s make it so ridiculous that people will think it’s a Hollywood creation and they will pay attention.

silcominc I did not remember Karl Rove pulling press credentials.
Must be in their DNA.

I think tRump will act to quash Mueller’s investigation during the ‘lame duck’ Congress.

I don’t remember who and I made no note of it in the past but I noticed there were eclipses on the Sun (birthdays) of about 3 main players in this drama during the 3 years between 2016 election and January 2020 and I am very sure 1 of them was Mueller. Another may have been tRump Jr.

As for the ‘lame duck’ period; today was the first day of it and has transit Saturn square tRump’s natal Neptune to start it off.

By: Bob on October 19th, 2018 at 2:27 pm

“These are major aspects.
Saturn return for pence will be exact on November 2 in both longitude and right ascension.
Transiting Saturn will be square to tRump’s natal Neptune in right ascension on November 7th and on November 11th in longitude.

Remember the aspects grow in intensity until they are exact. For pence that will be just 3 days before election day and for tRump once on the day when voting is mainly counted for all intents and again 4 days after voting has ended.

In the aftermath transit Saturn will square tRump’s progressed Neptune in right ascension on November 17/18 and in longitude on November 23. It will Square his progressed Mars in right ascension on December 11 and in longitude on December 24.”

trump looked like a pacing caged lion, seething with suppressed rage during that presser – a cornered animal is the most dangerous.

Rove played the game of access journalism. But these crooks – they lie about Acosta pushing and shoving a WH intern – which is not true and their right wing propaganda machine is echoing the lie. If the Press core had any spine, they would all walk out.

Rachael thinks that thing with Acosta was a trump distraction setup for the ‘squirrel’ media. Looking at the clip, that poor intern certainly seemed to have prior instructions to try get his mike from him so he could become the bad media guy. She looked at trump at one point it seemed to me for validation/permission to continue.
Donny is playing the media like fiddle!

Excellent, brief article on the status of the Trump investigation(s):


Another excellent article on the midterms:


“…..Never mind the divisive 2016 Republican Presidential primaries: Trump is truly his party’s leader now, and the new Republican makeup of the Senate and House, with moderates who questioned him largely purged, will only exacerbate the situation. Democrats, it seems, have yet to fully accept that this has happened. Will they finally get it now? No matter how flagrant his lies or how damaging the revelation, Trump’s popularity with the American public has remained around forty per cent. This is as true today as it was two years ago. Almost everyone has made up his mind about Trump, leaving elections to hinge on turnout and the dwindling number of fence-sitting independents left in America…..”

I think the war began today, on 7 November. Trump started it by firing sessions, appointing the acting AG, and bullying the press in his news conference. The adversaries are the Dem controlled House against the US R. controlled senate and Mr. Agent Orange. This will get much worse before it gets better.

Sharon K : I WON ! I am now a school board member.
I came in 2nd to the incumbent. The incumbents were not voted out.
We worked hard,from the air sea and land campaign.
I walked the precincts, had volunteers on the ground, and had a digital presence targeting a demograph of likely parents from age 30-50 Dems and Independents. I bought 100K of “impressions”
Camapaigning is a different animal today. People were texting the unlikely voters.
So I’m happy 🙂


Macron is supporting the idea of an EU army, in part to deal with climate change catastrophes and to counter the animosity of the Russians. He says Europeans should not rely so much on NATO or the USA. Could this be the beginning of the new shape of the world order?

Congratulations LG!

Congratulations LG.

Eliseo I think you are right. This may not be pretty.

Republicans are suing to NOT count the ballots in Arizona. I don’t understand all the ins and outs of their strategy but apparently the Dems are fighting back hard.

Looks like hope may be alive in the Florida Senate race. I don’t know what happened in Broward, Something about not being able to electronically transmit the results so they had to send the results by cars? Rick Scott pleaded with Nelson to take the high road and concede. Something along the lines of you don’t want to go out this way do you? Whew. I bet he knows he cannot withstand the scrutiny of a recount.

Congratulations LG

Eliseo You are right. This may not be pretty.

Still 3 undecided Senate races.

LG, Many congratulations for a campaign well done! Good luck in your new “gig”!

Eliseo, you’re probably right.

Eliseo…You’re correct, Look at German Chancellor Angela Merkel, she has stepped down from Office. Perhaps she foresees big trouble brewing!

DRUMP: “I’m not releasing my tax returns while they’re under audit says Drump as Democrats make publishing truth about his finances their number one target”
‘They’re extremely complex. People wouldn’t understand them,’ President Donald Drump said of his tax returns. He refused to say he would comply if the newly empowered House Democrats demand them”.

daily mail trumps tax returns



Transiting Jupiter has left the Scorpio building and is now at 00 degrees of Sagittarius. Prepare to see and feel the difference – in yourself and in others.

Dare I say it, life doesn’t need to seem so hopeless now. It is time to expand and trust in something greater than (what appears to be) reality. Rise above it. See the possibilities. What is decaying is fodder for what is being born. Nurture ideas.

Jupiter leaves the waters (emotions) and enters the fiery world of inspiration for which it is much more suited. Begin again.

Hi Janet,

How are you? Appreciate your post! …and I would also like to express gratitude for Tuesday’s results! ….so thankful we now have close to a hundred new women in the House, several A rated NRA congress people defeated by pro-gun control advocates, a gender and racially diverse House that reflects society, and a true check on the idiot man child.

Also grateful to Beto, for bringing attention to down ballot candidates (who won)…bringing more blue to Texas.

Especially grateful to Pres. Obama and VP Biden for their extra efforts and push. I don’t see us making these gains without their help.

I pity the snarky comments of some reporters’ efforts to diminish the blue wave, as the creep in chief uses them as pawns in his manipulative ploys. Maybe one day they’ll see the light, too.

Hi Lexi :),

I hope all is well w/you. I echo your sentiment on Beto, Obama and VP Biden.

I do wish some reporters would not allow themselves to be used as pawns. And as you say, I do hope those reporters hurry up and see the light…we are in an emergency.


Congratulations on your win! So excited for your new civic leadership adventure!

Teresa Hill,
Your hopeful and inspiring post today, is greatly appreciated!

No. No one can or should give up. The GOP never gave up…and they’ve built a gigantic misinformation, gerrymandering, and disenfranchisement machine. This administration has helped show that machine’s cracks, it is not impervious, as we proved on Tuesday.

But it will take more than the last two years worth of effort, to defeat them, the evil they represent, and the toddler-in-chief.

A comment on him:
I wish congress would consult psych professionals, again. His meltdown yesterday seemed akin to a psych. break–complete with speaking gibberish, paranoia, and violent lashing out at others.

The Acosta ploy was so manipulative, but effective. The media stopped discussing how bad the “blue wave was for him,” how the liberals were going to put him in check, etc. and how bad he was for many he actively campaigned for (who won primaries, but lost their general elections). He’s seriously mentally not well, and looks it.

Brian Kemp resigns as Georgia’s secretary of state


Angellight–I still can’t believe Kemp got away with all he did leading up to the election and in past years as well. Resigning now is probably a case of “too little, too late”. Every time I hear his name I see him in that vile ad next to his pickup truck talking about shooting immigrants.

“Sessions should go down in history as one of the worst attorney generals ever to hold the office.”


LG – congratulations!

Julie, every time I see Kemp, he looks evil, unhappy and miserable. There is no joy in that soul of his. His mission, make people miserable.

Totally off topic:
I just read a story that made me smile – a welcome antidote from the trump gloom.
Identical twins in CA gave birth on the same day! What are the chances! Must be some interesting family charts

Why wasn’t a law suit brought against Kemp much sooner!? I don’t get it!

Sharon – Many suits were brought up against Kemp

Marjorie wrote on Jim Acosta – caught in a trump firestorm

I think it would be a good thing if this recent tragic shooting in CA could be treated as more ‘casualties of war’ and the shocking effect war can have on warriors, as well as veterans issues and ptsd in general.

LG congrats! So very happy for you!


Natal Saturn at 6°02′ Cancer longitude and 96°31′ right ascension

Transit Saturn opposite natal Saturn on November 13 in longitude, same date in right ascension

Progressed Saturn at 10°47′ Cancer longitude and 101°39′ right ascension

Transit Saturn opposite progressed Saturn on December 25 in longitude and December 26 in right ascension


square natal Neptune in right ascension November 7th

November 11th in longitude.

square progressed Neptune in right ascension November 17/18

in longitude November 23.

Square progressed Mars in right ascension December 11
in longitude December 24.”


For 34 straight days, #Trump tweeted, campaigned, ran commercials & had #FoxNews put their reporters on the Southern border Looping video of these “Dangerous” Caravan ppl.

4 hrs after the election, No Fox coverage, No Trump tweets.

Conned AGAIN !!


BREAKING: Thousands of Americans are rallying around the country RIGHT NOW to protest Trump firing Sessions, removing Rosenstein, and installing his own lackey to oversee Mueller’s investigation.

On FB live Stand up America

mitch mcconnel is such a wiley shameless snake – now he is soundbiting and equating current ‘presidential harrassment’ investigations with the blue dress incident that backfired on them politically. Talk about selling apples and swearing they are oranges!

Gillum can ask for a mechanical recount now! This Margorie Orr article describes DeSantis and Gillum so well. http://star4cast.ca/andrew-gillum-a-talented-and-luck-leo/
Gillum has a democratically-oriented labor union, the Broward Democratic Party, an attorney, and his campaign staff finding the owners of provisional ballots and legalizing them. If he legalizes enough, I imagine he could ask for a manual recount. According to the Sun Sentinel, only 86% of the African-American community voted for him. Doesn’t sound right to me.

matt whitaker – BD = oct 29, 1969. DesMoine iowa. No time

KellyAnne’s husband, George Conway III, says Trump’s appt of Whitaker is unconstitutional.


Our governor, Rick Scott who is running against the Democrat Bill Nelson for senator is so eloquent.

Update. Simena in Arizona has just pulled ahead Republicans are trying furiously to stop the count.

Virgo Yes I think I saw that “speech” he looked angry and worried. Nelson’s lawyer says he has the votes. They just found another box of provisional ballots in Broward. The person who found them had the presence of mind not to break the seal and called authorities. Scott is suing Broward. Rubio states Dems have sent “an army of lawyers to Florida to overturn the election results” or something like that. I like Nelson’s top lawyer pick, can’t think of his name right now but he is good. My family has lived in Florida for over 40 years. They loathe Scott.

As far as I can research, Matthew Whitaker the new AG was born in Ankeny, Illinois on 10/29/1969.

My gut says this is another Tdrump move that will backfire. I need to do Whitaker’s chart.

WE are doing very, very well…Abrams, Nelson, Gillum
and many still in CA…


Well done! All that is good your way.

Population statistics do not bode well for Republicans. In an increasingly number of districts they can’t win without the cheating, weirdly shaped gerrymandering, undercounting of dem votes, voter suppression, etc. This will get worse, not better for them. In all probability they will continue the lies and cheating, but with decreasing effectiveness. Lies and cheating work in the short run, but cannot in the long run. Lies accumulate. As the substance of a lie begins to weaken, more lies are required to support it. Eventually the edifice collapses.

Although White Supremacist numbers have increased through internet recruiting, Republican constituents as a whole are gradually dying off. The number and percentage of Fox News viewers, and Hate Radio listeners are slowly diminishing.

The Center and the Left now constitute the majority, are now mobilized, and will continue to grow as each year passes. Reasonable, truthful non-racist Conservatives, and moderate Republicans are leaving the party. The R’s that remains now face a very stark and dark moral choice.

Unless they can adjust their ideology, (they won’t do that) they must go hard right fascist, i.e. subdue us at the point of guns and bayonets, and/or declare martial law, etc., OR gradually lose power and ultimately go out of business.

As we all know, Lord Acton said, “power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” In other words, power is a process addiction. Some addicts recover and change their lives for the better. Some don’t. In time we’ll know which moral choice the R’s will have made.



May your tenure be constructive, creative and propitious.

Eliseo, A very hopeful message. Time will take care of these dishonest, bullying people as they go the way of the dinosaurs (who at least were pure and honest!). As John Kerry said, “what a bunch of crooks and liars.”

Wise words, Eliseo. You give me hope, even here in Ohio, where for the time being, there seems to be no end to the Republican madness. Thank you.

To my Buds here:

Thank you for sending your positive energies with Pluto and Venus. Sorry I can’t understand astrology as well as Bob and Barb K and Nancy but sometimes, I think I do.

I know I was in a positive moment this week. It was a grass roots effort and the energies with the planets lined up very well for me.

I loathe McConnell the turtle snake.
He won’t die happy he contributed to society.

I wonder if this is why guilliani has been unusually quiet lately
“human rights organization has asked Dutch prosecutors to open a criminal investigation into multi-billion dollar money laundering schemes that they say were aided by Donald Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and his old law firm.”

So much corruption everywhere and it all leads to trump

Chart MC’s the same for Ankeny and Des Moines, Asc 7 minutes more for Des Moines.

These points will be squared by Saturn in 2019, except for progressed Mercury that will be opposed and Uranus that will be aspected in 2018.

Whitaker Oct 29 1969, 12:00 pm, CST Des Moines IA

Mercury 25°Libra06’03”
Venus 15°Libra05’20”
Jupiter 20°Libra41’47”

Uranus 06°Libra21’51” squared in longitude November 16, in right ascension November 9


Whitaker Sec.Prog. Q2 Mean Quotidian Nov 7 2018, 10:44 am, CST Des Moines

Mercury 12°Capricorn25’43”

Uranus 08°Libra27’43” squared in right ascension November 27, in longitude December 6


Court documents show that when frustrated consumers tried to get their money back, Scott J. Cooper, the company’s president and founder, used Mr. Whitaker to threaten them as a former federal prosecutor. Mr. Cooper’s company paid Mr. Whitaker nearly $10,000 before it closed.

Mr. Whitaker’s role in the company would complicate his confirmation prospects should President Trump nominate him as attorney general.

Several esteemed lawyers, including kelly ann’s husband, are saying whitaker’s appointment, even on a temp basis, is unconstitutional because he has never held any position in govt where he has been confirmed by congress. They are saying he has no legal authority to do anything, even though named by this pres. Could affect any litigation currently underway affecting us govt – in that there is no named person currently, legally, representing the justice dept. Acting AG must be someone from the ‘chain of command’ who has previously gone thru the confirmation process for any other prior position – e.g. rosenstein, or in another age, sally yeats.

“Susan Collins: “It is imperative that Special Counsel Robert Mueller be allowed to complete his investigation … I believe that we should bring to the Senate floor legislation that would put restrictions on the ability of President Donald Trump to fire the Special Counsel.”

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
1 hour ago

Aside from Whitaker’s natal Venus conjunct US natal Saturn and Trump’s natal Chiron + Juno (inferior partner) in Libra, I believe it will be Whitaker’s natal Nessus at 15+ Gemini (trine his Venus + US Saturn + Trump’s Chiron and Juno) that will serve the US Constitution (and the US People) most effectively.

On December 7th (Pearl Harbor Day) the New Moon at 15+ Sagittarius (conjunct the Great Attractor at 14+ Sagittarius) opposes Whitaker’s natal Nessus at 15+ Gemini.

The conjunction of Mars and Neptune (13+ Pisces) in that December 7th New Moon chart T-squares Whitaker’s Nessus and the New Moon that opposes it, while also trine the US natal Sun at 13+ Cancer. I see this as positive for now.

Then there is in this same New Moon chart, a grand trine between the North Node (27+ Cancer), Mercury (27+ Scorpio) which conjuncts Whitaker’s natal Neptune – also at 27+ Scorpio, and Chiron (27+ Pisces rx). Because the South Node conjuncts the US natal Pluto (27+ Capricorn) they turn the grand trine into a Kite pattern.

Since the US Constitution chart’s natal Juno is at 27+ Cancer (and the Dec. 7th New Moon’s North Node conjuncts it), and because (of the Kite formation) the US Pluto + the New Moon’s South Node are pointing to the Constitution’s Juno (defender of disenfranchised) and the New Moon’s North Node which is the Kite’s focal point . . .

it is the US Constitution’s Juno vs. the US natal Pluto at the center of this intricate pattern in the New Moon chart. Once again Trump – through his choice of Whitaker to oversee Mueller – is challenging the endurance and power of the US Constitution.

As Pearl Harbor Day was a challenge to the United States of America in 1941, so too will be this New Moon at 15+ Sagittarius. I believe it is an act of love since Whitaker’s Nessus in Gemini also conjuncts the degree where transiting Venus occulted (transited) the Sun in 2012.

It’s the same place where the Moon will be in the 3rd and final Mercury-Jupiter conjunction on Dec. 21, the day of the Winter Solstice.

I marvel at the intricately interwoven threads of astrological tapestries such as this. The (new) Mercury-Jupiter cycle that follows their Dec. 21 conjunction carries forward for one year; the Winter Solstice is influential for 3 months following. Both carry in their patterns the thread of the Whitaker Nessus in Gemini and the Venus-occult -Sun in Gemini. Who says we aren’t all one?

LG, so sorry I missed your announcement yesterday morning. My congratulations on your victory and am grateful for your keen interest and knowledge of astrology too. What a great time to be alive, huh?

Rosenstein actually said that Whitaker was a superb choice for Acting AG! Saw that on the CNN website.

Sharon, first thought that comes to my mind with rosenstein is his dry sense of humor, and I wonder if that was a policically savy, tongue in cheek, statement to avoid being in trump’s firing line
I guess we will find out later.

Sharon S,
With Rosenstein it’s probably better to focus on his actions more so than his words. He knows what he has to say to keep his job and therefore keep Mueller’s investigation going.

Good points, kiwi and Eliseo… He seems very honest and straightforward, though, so he might actually mean some of that. And, of course, I’m usually Sharon K but sometimes I unconsciously use my middle initial.

Next week’s New Yorker cover – you’re going to like it.


Be sure to read the comments

Interesting quote:
“Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom.”
–Thomas Jefferson–

By that measure, DJT is the biggest fool in the history of American presidents.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Slams Fox News For Laughing At Her DC Rent Problem


If you’re going to pick a fight with somebody who has lived in the trenches you had better bring your A game. If you are in the news business and can’t pronounce their name after months of it’s use by media you look like a fool. The same goes for attacking their words or actions without knowing their situation or background. Verifying the facts of a story is a basic requirement of people in your profession. Er, your job.- No,make that your 15 minutes.

Can’t help myself. Dredged up from long, long ago and far, far away, I like it for this administration’s leaders and followers:

1, 2, 3 kick ’em in the knee.

3, 2, 1 kick ’em in the other one!

I feel better.

as Rush would say Mega Ditto to your DT comment.

“truth is going to come out”


DJT very richly deserves every last bit of discomfort he’s gonna get from Pluto grinding down his natal Saturn.

Thanks ja, I agree with Paul Krugman; the House of Reps “with their subpoena power can call Mueller and colleagues for testimony, and get the facts out anyway. In fact, this could be worse [for Trump] than letting Mueller finish and then sitting on the report.”

Yes, barbk.

Here is Ed Tamplin:

“And to round out on a positive. The last time Jupiter moved through Sagittarius, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change established that man made fossil fuels were a major contributor of climate change. Now, at the Jupiter return, a group of activists have been given the all clear to take government inactivity on this tragedy to the Supreme Court. Perhaps that’s really the most important showdown of all for humanity’s future.”


“Mr. President, with all due respect, you are wrong. The fires in So. Cal are urban interface fires and have NOTHING to do with forest management. Come to SoCal and learn the facts & help the victims,” the Pasadena Firefighters Assn. said on Twitter.


Ja, you are absolutely correct!
It has not rained here in the San Francisco Bay Area for over a year! We should be seeding clouds or inventing other other rain methods. This is Climate Change! FOX Viewers are being told these CA Fires are being set by crazy people. Others are blaming Telephone lines. But no one touches on the subject of climate change and destroying the atmosphere!

“Trump’s Appointment of the Acting Attorney General Is Unconstitutional” If you missed it:
New York Times, Free to read with most excellent comments:

tRump’s transit Saturn square to natal Neptune; first the loses in the election and now his faux pas in France.


Twitter Pelts Trump With Photos Of Obama In The Rain After He Ditches Cemetery Visit

“This is a real leader @realDonaldTrump. The rain…seriously? You have no idea what we go through in war and that’s why us Vets should hold a special place in society. Thank you @BarackObama for being a pure class act! #Resist pic.twitter.com/M6uWy7m06c
— Doc T. (@Recon7997) November 10, 2018”

“A real leader supports our fallen men and women in uniform in the rain, snow, sun, day, night, at home or overseas. True leaders do this because it is not about them, but those who paid the ultimate sacrifice. Shame on you @realDonaldTrump. Thank you! @BarackObama pic.twitter.com/3hBpoLGQrV
— Erik Wells (@Erik_Wells) November 10, 2018”

“@GenMhayden @SteveSchmidtSES @TheRickWilson to paraphrase out “Commander In Chief,” — I like
presidents who aren’t afraid of the rain @BarackObama pic.twitter.com/awFjE3TgiS
— Matthew (@BRSMatthew) November 10, 2018”


“Twitter responded with scads of photos of Obama campaigning or speaking at various events in the rain. A number of them featured the former president in pelting rain honoring veterans or those killed in battle.”


In above post loses should be losses.

Last link fixed.


Does anyone remember the Visions program from a few years ago? It was an astrology program which did data, plus interpretation. It gave you your natal chart & data as well as transits and their meaning.

Do any of you know of a similar program extant today?

” Mr. Trump’s two-day visit to Paris was marred by his decision on Saturday to scrap a planned visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery at the foot of the hill where the Battle of Belleau Wood was fought. Aides cited the rain in canceling a helicopter flight, but it went over badly in Europe. Winston Churchill’s grandson called Mr. Trump “pathetic” and not fit to represent the United States.”


did anyone else catch the thumbs up and handshake from putin to trump in France?

Song for Remembrance Day:


Eliseo you probably already know this but you can use Astrodienst.

I think many people on this board (and you may be included) think that Astrodienst is too generic and not really useful.

Longtime fan of Nancy and the comments left at starlightnews.
Perhaps one of you can find insight of the Florida situation from the chart of Susan Summerall Wiles, she was born 14 May 1957.
Susie is the go to gal for Republicans. Leading campaigns of DeSantis, Trump, Scott, Jeb, the list goes on for more Jacksonville republicans. She’s the daughter of football star & announcer Pat Summerall. Don’t know time or where she was born. Maybe one of you can shed some light?
Thanks to all who post here. Namaste 🙂

Astrodienst provides excellent services for free. IMO it should be the first choice for chart services sought by those without astrology software of their own.

Noting his appearance the morning he left for Paris I wonder if the real reason he did not go to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery was to cover up a health issue. I think many of the challenging aspects to his charts in 2019 may be relating to his health and not just to political hits.

Tip for new arrivals to astrology – select a single, or a few, words to describe each planet or the Sun and Moon. When you see them combine in aspect (natal with transit or progression, progressed with transit, or any other manner) just interpret with your key words and you will be as much in the ball park as an astrologer with years of experience and the latest or greatest software.

With all of the supposed advantages they may have how many, if any, have a bona fide record of exactly correct, not general, prediction. Transit Saturn conjunct natal Sun bespeaks of a generality, not a specific experience.

Keep it simple, beyond that label the 3 pages of dressing that follow as your guess or opinion as to what it brings. Circumstances, personal and/or mundane in relation to a chart, may influence your opinion in reading aspects to it.

Bob I guess I was wrong about what people think about Astrodienst. Good to know.

Looks like Valdemort is going to try and impound the voting machines. His lead has dwindled to 12500. I wonder what tomorrow may bring. Nelson has Elias on his team. No one better. I will be watching this race closely.

Looks good in Arizona.

I agree Bob, I think Trump is not well, based on his appearance. Right now transiting Chiron (wounding) is conjunct his natal Vesta at 28+ Pisces in his 8th house. Also, transiting Mars is still in his 6th house (health) and opposite his natal Mars and ascendant which must be exhausting.

The Visions program gave you daily transits with specific ephemeris information as well as generalized interpretations on the basis of those transits. I was able to use it as a foundation and with the help of my personal astrology library about 100 or so books) and my intuition fill out more details.

I was also able to tweak the program a bit to make it do things it was not originally designed for, like progression charts, relationship charts, location charts, etc. I also tweaked it so I could look at the astrology of historical events, but unfortunately couldn’t get it to go further back than 3000 BCE.

Many Thanks for the suggestion, but Astrodienst renders very little generalized transit interpretations, not what I’m looking for. And frankly, for a number of reasons I just don’t like their program.

hows this for the word of the day – who knew?
old Scottish word meaning deceive, elude, slip away from
Perfect name for the slippery snake conman that he is

By oxthecat to Eliseo:

“I think many people on this board (and you may be included) think that Astrodienst is too generic and not really useful.”

If that was in any way prompted by knowledge that I was no longer a member at Astrodienst here is a link to the incident (when I posted about the site mining posters information) that resulted in my leaving that site. I have never released this information before now.


I know some have been saying Trump looks unwell, when he flashed that grin to Putin and fluffed his coat, he looked just fine to me .

Then, he and Putin were noticeably absent during the leader walk yesterday!

It was disgraceful for him not to go. The French military have been trolling him with a meme on Twitter.

Michael Wolfstar:

“Florida’s current scenario resonates strongly with what happened during the November 2000 presidential race between Al Gore and George W. Bush. Just after the tight election results, Mercury turned retrograde at 3º Scorpio while squaring Neptune at 3º Aquarius. Also, transiting Pluto was exactly opposite the Gemini Ascendant, intensifying the situation. And now, Florida’s progressed Mars is right on the Aquarius Midheaven, which explains why people are getting so angry and confrontational over this outcome. And it’s just getting started.”


“Patrick would enter the race with one significant distinction: he is a kind of political heir to Barack Obama, and enjoys broad support from people close to the former President. Valerie Jarrett, Obama’s former senior adviser and still a close friend, told me, “Deval would make an outstanding President. He’d make a terrific candidate.”


Bob No I was not thinking about anyone specifically. It was some kind of free floating thought process.
Something I remembered about some people (can’t remember who) thinking that Astrodienst was too generic. I was not thinking about you at all.
I use the service for the daily horoscope and the free horoscopes. I like those services.

I think Sinema just clinched Arizona. McSally will not kick up too much of a fuss because she will probably take Kyl’s seat. He is a placeholder.

Voldemort lost his first lawsuit. He was trying for an injunction against Broward. Good.

barbk – who must type 130 wpm! – Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to match the charts for these seminal events to the Sibly Chart for the U.S. (You can use your favorite U.S. chart ALSO). A sensitive point for women in the chart may be found. I will do them in order to have them in my files but you provide much more info about charts than this minimalist and I feel the honor (and hard work) should go to an esteemed member of the fair sex.

I think charts for all dates should be done for midnight to start the day and located to Washington, DC. I HAVE INSERTED A SPACE IN ALL LINKS BETWEEN https AND THE COLON to let the post get through today.

First woman elected to the House of Representatives (Before women had rhe right to vote, must have won men over)

https ://history.house.gov/People/Detail/20147

Jeannette Rankin

“On April 2, 1917, she arrived at the Capitol to be sworn in along with the other Members of the 65th Congress…”

https ://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=false&doc=63

“Passed by Congress June 4, 1919, and ratified on August 18, 1920, the 19th amendment granted women the right to vote.”

https ://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/26/aug-26-1920-19th-amendment-takes-effect-giving-women-the-vote/

“On Aug. 26, 1920, eight days after it had been ratified, the 19th Amendment was declared in effect by Secretary of State Bainbridge Colby, giving female citizens the right to vote in all American elections.”

“The New York Times reported, “The half-century struggle for woman suffrage in the United States reached its climax at 8 o’clock this morning, …”

https ://www.thoughtco.com/first-woman-to-vote-3530475

First woman to vote under the 19th Amendment – many claims, no solid proof

“On November 9, 1916, Jeannette Rankin (R-MT) was elected to the House of Representatives as
Montana’s Representative-at-Large to the 65 th Congress (1917-1919). This election win gave
Representative Rankin the distinction of being the first woman elected to serve in Congress. 1 The
first woman to serve in the Senate was Rebecca Latimer Felton (D-GA). She was appointed in
1922 and served for one day.”

Women in Congress, 1917-2018: Service Dates
and Committee Assignments by Member, and
Lists by State and Congress

https ://www.senate.gov/CRSpubs/bee42bd4-0624-492c-a3b0-a5436cb9e9a2.pdf

Technicality: “FELTON, REBECCA LATIMER. Democrat; Georgia, Senator. Appointed to the Senate on Oct. 3, 1922, to fill vacancy caused by death of Thomas E. Watson; sworn in Nov. 21, 1922; term
expired Nov. 22 with the election of Walter George to the vacancy she filled.”

The first woman elected to the Senate was Hattie Caraway from Arkansas in 1932.

“CARAWAY, HATTIE WYATT. Democrat; Arkansas, Senator. Appointed to the Senate Nov. 13,
1931, and elected Jan. 12, 1932, to fill the vacancy caused by death of husband Thaddeus H.
Caraway; reelected to two full Senate terms. (served Dec. 8, 1931-Jan. 3, 1945)”

Women’s March – Largest demonstration in Washington DV’s history.

https ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Women%27s_March

“The Women’s March[13][14][15][a] was a worldwide protest on January 21, 2017,…”

“It was the largest single-day protest in U.S. history.”

“The main protest was in Washington, D.C., and is known as the Women’s March on Washington …”

” One of the fun things you can do with astrology is run a horoscope for the moment a statement is released (written or verbal, either will work). You can assess the veracity of the statement by examining patterns in the horoscope. When I looked at the horoscope for 6/13/2018 at 5:53 AM ET at Andrews AFB, MD, it failed the truth test. This is a useful technique for evaluating the truth of other statements, including, but not limited to: “the dog ate my homework,” “I will always love you,” etc.”


Bob, BarbK is our Astrological Treasure!
Ja Speaking of assessing veracity, this was interesting:

“The Seven Commandments of Fake News”

I think Drump is the Devil…he foments Hate and Fear!

Drudge scrubbed his entire twitter account. Fox twitter dark for days. Murdoch just met with McConnell in DC. Something big is happening.

One source thinks that Mueller may have found a 2016 connection between Russia and right wing media outlets.

Some people say that Drudge cleans up his twitter from time to time so who knows. A lot of coincidences for sure.

Almost forgot. Wikileaks is dark too.

Veterans haven’t received GI Bill benefits for months due to ongoing IT issues at VA


“Veterans sue Trump for letting his Mar-a-Lago cronies control the Department of Veterans Affairs.


Some high profile Mueller indictments to be issued over the November 17th weekend?

Ed Taplin writes:

“……As for Jupiter, Trump’s chart shows his Progressed Sun is running semisquare to his birth Jupiter. Add to that, the transit of Jupiter will square his Progressed Sun by November 17 and transiting Mars will oppose his progressed Sun the following day. The transits exacerbate the progressions and it’s centered Jupiter, the planet of JUDICIAL MATTERS.”

November 16th, 2018. Here’s the chart: https://astrologyking.com/mercury-retrograde/ Tr. Mercury stations retrograde at 13 ’29 Sagittarius in close square to tr. Neptune at 13 ’42 Pisces (within 19 minutes of conjunction to the Republican party’s natal Neptune). Tr. Nodes at 29 ’09 Cancer-Capricorn is at the midpoint of this Neptune-Mercury square forming a t square to tr. Uranus – 29 ’36 Aries.

Stone Associate Says He Expects To Face Mueller Indictment In Next Couple Of Days

The Hill
November 12, 2018

A Roger Stone associate on Monday said he believes special counsel Robert Mueller will indict him in the next couple of days for giving false information to federal investigators despite cooperating with the Russia investigation.

“I’m going to be criminally charged,” Jerome Corsi, a conservative commentator and conspiracy theorist, said during a YouTube livestream. “As of today, right now, I expect to be indicted.”

Corsi, who said he tried to cooperate with the investigation, claimed that his “mind was mush” after speaking with investigators, and alleged that they set up a “perjury trap” for him by not allowing him to see what documents and statements they were referring to during his “interrogation.”



Trump Is Pretty Much in Hiding

No visit to American WWI soldiers graves with other allied leaders. No visit to Arlington Cemetery. No trip to the Asian summit. No public appearances.

Either there is some sort of health issue going on or he knows that something is about to drop from the Mueller investigation. Those are the two options I’m thinking about.

He did travel to France and did make a couple of appearances there, although he skipped out on hob-nobbing with the other leaders most of the time. And there was that long, angry press conference before the trip. So, I’m thinking it’s not a serious health issue.

That leaves the Mueller thing on the table. Has he been notified of potential terrible news from that front? That would be my guess. That would explain his testiness in that press conference and his almost incognito status in France. He knows something and also knows that he’s not going to be able to keep his nasty emotions in check right now.

Trump has received bad news, I think, about some imminent announcement. He’s holed up because there’s not much else he can do. What will happen when that news drops? Who can say?

Of course, I’m just taking a guess here. What do I know?


After clashes with first lady and others, Kelly may soon exit White House https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/after-clashes-first-lady-others-kelly-may-soon-exit-white-n935686 … via @nbcnews

“The @NatEnquirer has gone completely dark. Their last tweet was posted on November 9th.

They join @FoxNews in Twitter silence.

Additionally, it was discovered that Matt Drudge deleted all of his tweets overnight.

Too many coincidences.”

TOP ?O?E T?AViS on Twitter

This is how the southern Calif. fire started.

Had a feeling Sunday night that Monday would be the day we’d see more indictments. Hoping now I was just a day off.

I am so ready for this.

Well Bob, in throwing down the gauntlet you have aroused my curiosity re: Women and their Rise into U.S. Government Positions.

I’ve looked at the ephemeris for the 3 dates for the 19th Amendment (passed, ratified and certified) and for Jeanette Rankin’s birth date. I do believe there is a storyline in the US natal chart (I use 12+ Sagittarius rising) but I don’t find one definitive approach (how typical of women, eh?) to the rise (acceptance) of women elected to government positions.

Rather, it has been an arduous climb dependent on fortunate timing. For example, when Jeannette was born in June, 1880, her natal Sun was conjunct US Mars in Gemini (which squares US Neptune in Virgo) and trine US Juno in Libra (opposite US Chiron in Aries). I believe this is the key pattern in the US chart that relates most to women seeking equality (Juno in Libra) in the USA.

When the 19th Amendment was passed by Congress (6/4/1919) Pluto was conjunct the US North Node (path forward) in Leo and the Sun (consciousness) was on the US natal chart’s 7th house (the other) cusp at 12 + Gemini and opposite the 1st house (self) cusp in Sagittarius. Sedna (abused woman) in Aries was square US natal Sun in Cancer and opposite US Saturn in Libra, while Pallas (warrior woman) was conjunct US Moon + Pallas in Aquarius.

When the 19th Amendment was ratified on August 18, 1920, Saturn (make manifest) in Virgo was square Pholus (small cause, big effect) which was conjunct US natal chart’s ascendant (self) at 12+ Sagittarius, while Jupiter (increase) in Leo was opposite US Moon (women) in Aquarius. Sisyphus (repeated efforts) in Cancer was square both US Chiron and US Juno.

On August 26, 1920, when the 19th Amendment was certified, Juno (wife) in Scorpio was trine the US Jupiter (husband) in Cancer while Vesta (focus) in Sagittarius opposed US Mars and squared US Neptune. Psyche (soul, mind, spirit) and Requiem (mass for the dead) were conjunct the US natal Uranus (breakthrough) in Gemini.

That was almost 100 years ago and we’ve come a long way baby!

Since late October going through December 12 (later even because of close orb) tRump will have transit Saturn square Natal and progressed Neptune, progressed Mars, opposite natal Mercury, opposite natal Sun/Saturn midpoint, and square natal Moon/Saturn and Moon/Venus midpoints. With Saturn conjoining Jr’s natal Sun they may have to do with Jr going to the lockup eventually.

December 12, 2018 5 pm White House

Transit Saturn 9°09′ Capricorn – 279°55′


Progressed Neptune 7°03′ Libra – 187°03′

Midpoint of natal Moon/Saturn 7°31′ Libra – 188°04′

Midpoint of natal Moon/Venus 8°28′ Libra – 189°16′

Midpoint of Progressed Neptune/Mars 8°47′ Libra – 188°26′

Midpoint of natal Sun/Saturn 8°22′ Cancer – 99°01′

Natal Mercury 8°52′ Cancer – 99°47′

Progressed Mars 10°31′ Libra – 189°48′


Junior Sun (Noon)

9°55′ Capricorn – Saturn conjunct December 19

280°47′ RA – Saturn conjunct December 19 also

Jr’s natal Sun is opposite or square all of those points in daddy’s chart. And both charts are being witch hunted by that terrible Left Wing transiting Saturn at the same time.

Mueller: “I’ll make him an offer he can’t refuse.”

Jr: “You talkin’ to me?”

Mueller: “You’ve got to ask yourself one question: ‘Do I feel lucky?’ Well, do ya, punk?”

Only 100 years barb! Why are you ladies pushing so hard?:)

Here’s looking at you, kid.

Just because.

Garbageman pulls 93-year-old into truck as Camp Fire spreads


Bob, The Godfather, Taxi Driver, Dirty Harry (which I just saw) and Casablanca. Love your movie lines!

The yes/no intuitive program I use on facade.com says that the indictments are coming on Friday and it will be DT Jr and Corsi.

Thanks for the memories Bob – Jr. is toast ergo Mueller is the toaster and, if I’m reading this right, daddy is the jelly, right?

It is possible that DT will have some health problems, though they will undoubtedly be hidden from the public, particularly due to the Neptune influence (deception).

Both natal and progressed Neptune are in his 2nd house of personal wealth, so it is no surprise that his finances are obscured. Given that progressed Neptune moves so slowly (a few degrees in a lifetime, and DT’s will never change signs), it is unlikely that his finances will ever be revealed in a meaningful way to the public.

There are no transits coming that will change that picture, except that transiting Jupiter (benefits) will sextile DT’s natal Neptune in early December. That looks to be a benefit of some kind to him, not a rude shock.

Bob writes: “tRump will have transit Saturn square Natal and progressed Neptune, progressed Mars, opposite natal Mercury, opposite natal Sun/Saturn midpoint, and square natal Moon/Saturn and Moon/Venus midpoints.”

Yes, that is a very heavy line up indeed, especially the transiting Saturn square both natal and prog. Neptune, and soon headed to the same with progressed Mars; a close T-square. Saturn indicates a lot of stress and constraints, but once the Mars moves on, Neptune will again be puttering along doing its same old tricks, without much news to come for quite a while.

I think the progressed Mars is more of a problem to DT than anything else. It does indicate a direct attack. But, compared to the slower outer planets, even progressed, Mars is relatively temporary as an influence, particularly when it is balanced by other, easier aspects, as below.

Progressed Mars is presently at 10 Libra in DT’s 2nd house, and ruled by his progressed Venus, also in the 2nd. Money talks. DT’s natal Mars at 26 Leo is powerful, sitting right on the Ascendant which is at a critical degree, 29 Leo 56′, and conjunct the royal star, Regulus.

While there are plenty of not so nice things in DT’s chart, the natal configuration at the Ascendant accounts for DT’s phenomenal staying power, to date, combined with the current beneficial progression of Venus, conjunct natal Jupiter. Regulus is protective, so long as the person serves the greater purpose of being the mirror of the “people” and no ruler lasts long if he/she does not reflect his/her supporters (even if those people are ‘only’ the military, as in many dictatorships). So far, DT is supported by 40% of the population, plus the military (or most of it), which is enough. (Look to Mr. McConnell for the rest…)

The progressed Venus at 17 Libra is helping DT in a big way as it is conjunct DT’s natal Jupiter. Progressed Mars at 10 Libra is following right behind the progressed Venus, but it doesn’t look to me that the progressed Mars will get enough traction to do severe damage, especially in the short run. Progressed Venus is past its sextile to natal Pluto in the 12th, but still in range (power plays behind the scenes, with sextile aspect being fairly easy to deal with).

Natal Mars rules DT’s 3rd and 9th houses so it is no news that he has problems with legal matters, and that will undoubtedly continue with Mueller et al. But, it doesn’t look like a ‘fatal’ blow when progressed Mars at 10 Libra is heading to conjunct progressed Jupiter at 17 Libra, still conjunct progressed Venus now, and in sextile to progressed Pluto in the 12th.

In short, Jupiter (benefits) is still hanging in there for DT. It won’t be out of play until late in his 2nd term (Jupiter will be inconjunct DT’s natal Sun and Uranus in late 2020 and Saturn will be inconjunct DT’s natal Mars/Asc).

Progressed Venus has just passed the conjunction with DT’s natal JupiterRx in Libra in the 2nd house (of money) as well as a trine to DT’s natal Uranus in the 10th. These are easy for Trump.

Furthermore, progressed north node is in the 10th house of career (rewards) and is conjunct the natal 10th house Uranus at 17 Gemini, applying to trine both the progressed Venus and DT’s natal Jupiter.

DT will not be running out of cash (or approval from his monied base) any time soon. DT’s rule won’t be over until it’s over in 2020 (sorry, no impeachment).

On the other hand, DT has transit Pluto square his progressed Chiron. There is negative health potential in that. With Pluto going through his 5th house, it could relate to his kids, too, but 5th is Leo’s house, so it could be his heart.

Finally, DT has progressed Moon sextile progressed Uranus, which would indicate upsets in the home (his natal Moon is in the 4th house of home and his prog. Moon is in the 10th of his career). However, it is again a sextile (easy, and progressed Moon moves fast).

Every time I look at this stuff I am impressed how DT’s negatives keep being offset by his amazing positives, at least until 2020. He just keeps riding the rough seas of his presidency. There doesn’t seem to be a way to beat his chart – until the time comes. Patience, they say, is a virtue….

“112 Cell Phone feature. I tried it on my AT&T phone & it said, “Dialing Emergency Number.”

Especially for a woman alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car. Apparently police have to respect your right to keep going on to a safe place. *Speaking to a service representative at Bell Mobility confirmed that 112 was a direct link to State trooper info. So, now it’s your turn to let your friends know about “Dialing, 112”

Ralfee Finn:


Beowulfie. Thank you for your analysis. While I despise Trump, I have to acknowledge his followers have not changed their minds. At least none of the ones i follow have. Hopefully the democrats in the house can stop some of his craziness from becoming law. That will have to do for now.

Matt Whitaker, apparently more of a kook than I thought – http://www.star4cast.ca/matthew-whitaker-ludicrously-unsuitable-for-the-doj/


Not sure what your source was on dialing 112, but it’s not a special emergency number. It forwards to 911.

Im so concerned about the movement to unseat Pelosi as leader at this point in time while hurricane trump threatens all.
The analogy is, when faced with a deadly hurricane at sea is the absolute worst time to conduct a mutiny and replace with an untested captain.

This is interesting. A news release about Rick Gates notes that he is still cooperating with Mueller on several investigations and as such is not ready for sentencing. The next update will be January 15th.


Michael Avenatti was arrested on Felony Domestic Violence charges in Los Angeles.

Angellight, 112 is an internat’l emergency number and 77 is not universal across the U.S., but only used in some states to connect to state troopers. Other states use other designated numbers. I knew I had read something about this not quite being accurate in the past and googled it again.

Thank you for much for your thoughtfulness in sharing it.


I agree kiwi we could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Nancy Pelosi March 26, 1940 Baltimore Maryland the astrologer I looked at used 12 am as a time, I assume that is because they did not have a time.

She delivered 2018 she is a great fundraiser and she is the reason we have the ACA. I anyone thinks there is going to be sweeping progressive legislation passed over the next two years they are mistaken. Or I am.. She deserves the position.

Yes, I also don’t think Mueller is going to drop his bombs before the new Congress is sworn in, Jan 3rd.

This guy Whitaker is not going to last long, in my opinion.

I saw it mentioned several times today, that Hillary Clinton is going to run against Trump in 2020, anyone saw that?

All I can say is NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! This will pretty much guarantee the orange monster gets back in for another four years. The hatred of her is no less, she cant win.

Also, we need new blood, she had her chance, although she was severely and unfairly maligned, she was NOT a good candidate for a myriad of reasons! IMHO..

A good one ja! Ralfee Finn quotes D. L. Hughly: “Obama is who we aspire to be. Trump is who we are.”

Diana that information came from an op ed written by Mark? Penn who was a campaign adviser for Hillary in 2008. Other sources may have run with his musings..

He has become a reliable agent provocateur.

He was let go in 2008 because he wanted Hillary to use some thinly veiled racist ads which of course she refused to do and I think he left the campaign shortly thereafter. I am not 100 percent on the timing of this event.

I do not know her mind, but I doubt that Mark Penn does either.

I love basic astrology. Clear, simple and articulate.

Saturn now squaring the Orange Thing’s natal Neptune in the 2nd house (lying, illusion, delusion especially at “earning a living”). Saturn is opposing his natal Mercury in Cancer in his 11th house (talking about Groups with forked tongue, about the National Groups, the Nation’s groups…a veritable cardinal T square. His Neptune and Mercury are being clobbered by Saturn.

He will be seen by his own groups as the propagator of the BIG RED LIE (not to mention that the US is a Cancer country). O teeehheeeeeee!

Oxthecat, I was hoping it wasn’t true, I thought it wasn’t but then someone wrote on Twitter that she saw Hillary on the news saying so, thing is these days you never know what to believe.

Thanks fo the info

It’s obvious Mr. & Ms. T. never do their own grocery shopping. Mr. T. evidently believes you have to show ID to buy a box of cereal, just like when you buy liquor, wine, or beer. I had no idea cereal is so intoxicating!

George Conway has joined with a group of Conservative lawyers who oppose Trump. I think the election has also emboldened Republicans who are not only against Trump and what he stands for but may be beginning to see through McConnell (I hope, I hope). As far as Hillary, I think she is too smart to run a 3rd time (3rd times a charm?). I mean she has to realize whether or not it was her fault, she was very divisive and would continue to be. The planets would really, really have to be with her.

This must have been mentioned before here but I just looked at 11/3/20, the date of the next presidential election and Jupiter and Pluto will be conjunct at about 21/22 Capricorn. That configuration should be supportive to the next president, wouldn’t it?

By: Sharon K on November 15th, 2018
at 12:53 am

“That configuration should be supportive to the next president, wouldn’t it?”


We are getting to that time of year when people are usually more friendly than any other time. To help usher in that feeling before we are taken over with the music of the season and to celebrate the last election we are getting closer to, some tunes you all might know.

Mary Poppins – Medley – BBC Proms 2014 8:36


Beto O’Rourke was invited to Iowa, the state that holds the first presidential primary, by its Democratic Party. His NN is 23 Capricorn.


Sharon K: Thank you for the update on 112.

You say, “But, it doesn’t look like a ‘fatal’ blow when progressed Mars at 10 Libra is heading to conjunct progressed Jupiter at 17 Libra” but isn’t progressed Mars too far away from progressed Jupiter to be of much benefit during this term or even most of next?
Also, both Marjorie Orr and Wolfstar indicated that Rigulus often brings violent death and works much like the Icarus tale–flying too close to the sun and falling dramatically. I’m surprised you see it as a protective factor for Trump.

I believe the narrative on Hillary was impacted by the Russians. Absent their influence, the country was FOR her but for the manufactured hate. We did not see the poisonous vitriol because social media sanitized it by giving it airtime.

If she were to run, absent the negative ads, she is very likeable. Remember it was all the hype from social media ads that fueled the dislike for no rational reason actually.

I applaud Twitter and Facebook for cleaning it up.
I saw little to no negative ads except one here in the bay area.

I want Hillary to run provided her health holds up,and like Nancy Pelosi she will bring us back from a place in the country that Trump has caustically normalized. Never has there been a divisive US ‘leader’ as DJT and I hope we don’t go back there after he’s gone ever more.


I think it’s way beyond what the Russians have done to Hillary’s reputation, as bad as that in itself is. The negative perceptions of Hillary are based on actual events that go way back, as the “Whitewater” investigation, and the idea that she had something to do with the murders of Vince Foster (as well as Seth Rich). Whole books have been written about her pecadillos, that also drawn on conspiracy theories, and , and the Republicans are the ones who dragged Benghazi on and on, as well as the private server/email stuff. This all would be hard to shake, even if objectively she would be great as the first women president. After 2 campaigns and a stint as Secretary of State, I really don’t know if her health, let alone Bill’s, would hold up. I felt like she gave this last one her all. I also feel that someone fresh and with as little baggage as possible would have a better chance, particularly because our country needs change and one of the main areas is ethnics and integrity (I am not equipped to judge Hillary in that area-I also feel pretty good about her, but there are the negative perceptions of her in that regard). I don’t think a lot of Progressives would vote for her as they still blame her for Bernie losing, and considerate a corporate shill, etc., and I also think that Independents, Republicans and even some moderate Democrats wouldn’t vote for her for all of these reasons. I just think it isn’t meant to be, BUT, I never say never.

Sorry for the errors, I’m kind of tired. “Consider her” not considerate, etc.

Call me suspicious, but why is the media suddenly pushing the overthrow Pelosi meme? – it feels like some people with very hidden agendas are stoking the chaos furnace in the dirty dark basement


I too am suspicious about the media suddenly pushing for the removal of Pelosi.

Sharon K,

Although I do think the timing may not be good for Hillary this time, I do believe, and we can check with polls at the time, that Hillary’s entrance into the campaign was favored by a large majority of Americans. I believe what did her in were the Russians, Bernie’s primary of her and the Bernie Bro’s who continued a toxic campaign against her, and added fuel by MSM courting controversy about emails. By the time the primaries were over, her poll numbers were driven down.

Before the onset of her campaign many people factored in “Whitewater” and the Arkansas crowd, and believed her about the right wing conspiracy. What she couldn’t overcome was the toxic hate brought about by the primary which gave fuel to the Russians. But, still let’s not forget, she won by 3 million votes.

Yes, I agree, Janet. You and LG made some good points about what happened with Hillary. I just don’t think we should chance it again by running her. She has a lot of what it takes but I don’t know if we can overcome the things that tainted her. I know an assortment of Democrats and Progressives who “hated” her, and I’m still not sure why, but I don’t see that problem just going away. I know many of us were very pro-Hillary but I don’t think that’s enough. I believe that we need to run someone who symbolizes the future of the New Democratic Party, more progressive but still very committed to the mission of diversity, and helping/giving a boost to the “little guy”! I just have a kind of resolute inner feeling about this but have no problem being proven wrong in the future. I do think Hillary is amazingly strong and resilient, and with great will power — a true Scorpio.

There is much speculation that Trump’s apparent aggrieved mood is due to some development in the Mueller investigation(s). This is supported by the approach of transiting North Node nearing the Mueller natal North Node at 27+ Cancer that also conjuncts his natal Pallas (the strategist) and natal Iris (the messenger), all at 27+ Cancer.

Last week I wrote about the New Moon on Pearl Harbor Day (Dec. 7th) as it regarded Whitaker whose Neptune at 27+ Scorpio would be conjoined by transiting Mercury at that New Moon; Mercury being part of a grand trine with the North Node in Cancer and Chiron in Pisces. A grand trine symbolizes an unhindered and powerful force of energy that is difficult if not impossible to stop, such as the Mueller investigation.

I noted too that the North Node would be conjunct the US Constitution chart’s Juno but failed to mention that Mueller’s natal North Node (+ natal Pallas and natal Iris) also were conjunct the transiting North Node at 27+ Cancer in the Pearl Harbor Day New Moon chart.

A grand trine becomes a Kite pattern when one of the 3 in the grand trine is opposed by a 4th planet or point, and of course the South Node opposes the North Node (+ US Constitution’s Juno + Mueller’s NN + Pallas + Iris) and that South Node at 27+ Capricorn conjuncts the US natal Pluto at 27+ Capricorn. It means the focal point of the grand trine is the transiting North Node (++++).

This same New Moon chart has Saturn (reality) at 8+ Cap opposite Trump’s natal Mercury (mind) at 8+ Cancer, while the New Moon Pallas at 13+ Libra conjuncts Trump’s Chiron and Juno (14+ Libra) and US natal Saturn (14+ Libra).

NM Pallas also squares US natal Sun (13+ Cancer) but she, NM Pallas, trines the New Moon’s Black Moon Lilith at 13+ Aquarius. This could get mean.

Suffice it to say there will be a lot going on by Dec. 7th; all coming to a head, regarding Trump, Mueller, Whitaker and a variety of support players.

Be aware that trans. Mercury will station direct about 10 hours before this New Moon and Mercury is part of the grand trine (that conjuncts Whitaker’s Neptune).

Also note that on Nov. 20th transiting Sun will conjunct Whitaker’s Neptune, and trine Mueller’s NN (path forward) + Pallas (strategist) + Iris (messenger) + the US Constitution’s Juno. This month several other transiting bodies will aspect Mueller’s NN et al., along with Whitaker’s Neptune and the US natal Pluto leading up to the Pearl Harbor Day New Moon.

The tension will build in Trump whose natal Ophelia (madness) at 27+ Aquarius (conjunct US natal Moon) will also be squared by transiting Mercury, especially when it stations direct and in the New Moon on Dec. 7th.

Laura Ingraham loses her radio show at Fox News, and will have a podcast instead lol

She acted like Alex Jones and now she has the career of Alex Jones


Laur Ingraham; looks like she has genetic links to Anne Coulter. Vile whores of Satan.

I don’t see anyone in DNC who is truly a viable candidate.
Although I like Elizabeth Warner very much, I doubt she has the “it factor” to win the nation. Bernie is brilliant and full of fire, but he’s probably a few years too many. Beto had terrific potential but needs lots of schooling and D.C. grooming.

I realize HRC has her flaws; nonetheless it would be a joy seeing her run and win – a delicious come-back and she would go for Trump’s throat.
Delicious schadenfreude!


I find it very interesting that none of the cable news stations will even mutter Bernie’s name when they discuss this.. even with the caveat of his age. They don’t seem to have that issue with Joe Biden who is only 2 years younger, they don’t even mention his age when they speculate him running? For the candidate that came within a whisper of winning the 2016 nomination with 13M votes and 23 states won in the primary, I find it very curious.

Nelson Mandela was 77 years old when he became the president of South Africa for a 6 year term, so I am not willing to discount someone for their age. If Bernie runs I’m all in.


I am getting a red “Not secure” alert in the browser for the site.. not sure what that might mean? Wanted to make you aware.

Biden for President with Beto as his V.P.


I too don’t see Bernie, Biden, Hillary or Waren as viable candidates for 2020 because they are either too sharp elbowed, or lack something that I can’t put my finger on. But I do like Amy Klobuchar. I watched her during the Kavanaugh hearings and thought she was insightful, calm but also got to the nitty gritty of his alcoholic past. Anyway, I think she comes off as “midwestern nice” but very capable in holding people accountable. Anyone have a chart for her? I think she is going to run.

The following is a matter of faith for 2020 debated between Senator Marco Rubio (R) and Marc Elias, Democratic Recount Attorney.
Marco : “What is crooked cannot be made straight, and you cannot count what is not there.” Ecclesiastes 1:15.
Marc: “You shall not spread a false report. You shall not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness.” Exodus 23:1.


Allow me to clarify; I have no problem with people in their 70’s running for POTUS – I am basing my spit-balling on how the Average Joe would respond. I am wondering if maybe with the throngs of millions of Baby-Boomers retiring, Bernie or Joe or Hillary might be relate-able. Pure speculation on my part.


I did like the manner in which Klobuchar handled the petulant child Kavanaugh in the hearings. I’m thinking we are going to see a wild ride from after Thanksgiving onward. Maybe by then Mueller will unleash the Hounds of Hell on the Imp-in-Chief and his pusheaded minions. That would put a spring in my step for the Holidaze.

Stephanie, re. your comment, November 15th, 2018, at 10:12 am, my apologies. I referred to the wrong planet(s) and got it mixed up, in too much of a hurry. I have tried posting a response to you twice since, but each time it has disappeared. Perhaps it will show up yet (Mercury is stationary now, going Rx shortly). If not, suffice it to say that I got your point!

It is like a nuclear winter here in San Francisco bay area, despite being in the peninsula the inversion factor is trapping clean air and the news said it is like smoking 11 cigs. UGH!

Forcast: more fowl air this weekend

I too like Senator Klobuchar. I am hearing Biden and Bloomberg will both decide in the early part of 2019 whether to run or not. There is also the fact (stated earlier in the comments) that Beto has been invited to Iowa. I am of the opinion that Trump (assuming he is still in the White House) will NOT seek re-election.

As much as I like Klobuchar, I would like to see her remain in the senate – if the congressional entities are to be strengthened back to the role that that founders originally envisioned, her skills will be desperately needed there – perhaps as senate leader? Trump has proven some pull back of future presidential power is needed, and perhaps some form of constitutional amendment(s?) successfully shepherded thru.

Prayers for all those affected in CA

a random thought: I wonder if melania’s urge to fire mira is any way related to the leaking of her outrageous hotel bills at taxpayer expense for her Africa and Canada travel?

On Wednesday, Nov. 14, transiting Mercury moved into the 13+ degree of Sagittarius which is square 13+ Pisces, the degree which transiting Neptune presently occupies. However, the square between trans. Mercury and trans. Neptune won’t be exact until December 24th, more than 5 weeks from now.

That’s because trans Mercury is right now stationing to turn retrograde. For astrological purposes, Mercury will remain in the 13+ Sagittarius degree for 5 days, square the degree trans. Neptune occupies, 13+ Pisces. For that reason – Mercury (nor Neptune), not moving much from the perspective of Earthlings, essentially squares Neptune the whole 5 days (Nov. 14 through early Nov. 19), so all bets are off on clear thinking.

On Wednesday, Nov. 14th, the Justice Dept. defended Whitaker’s appointment for acting Atty. General under the cloud of trans. Mercury (stationing to go retrograde) in Sagittarius (explore, learn) with retrograde Neptune (confuse) in Pisces (diffuse).

As trans. Mercury moves back it will review by squaring trans. Mars again on Nov. 26th, conjunct trans. Sun again and trans. Jupiter again, both on Nov. 27th, before it moves back into Scorpio, stationing direct at 27+ Scorpio on Thursday, December 6th.

It will be less than 12 hours before the Pearl Harbor Day New Moon, where station-direct Mercury will trine trans. Chiron at 27+ Pisces and the North Node at 27+ Cancer.

Matthew Whitaker’s natal Neptune is at 27+ Scorpio, I kid you not, and it trines Mueller’s North Node at 27+ Cancer. Both will be part of the grand trine with trans. Chiron, Mercury and the North Node at the Dec. 7th New Moon

As I said on the 5th, trans. Neptune will be in the 13+ degree of Pisces for 64 days straight, always trine US natal Sun at 13+ Cancer. Trans. Mercury’s exact square to trans. Neptune happens on the 61st day of those 64 days. Much of the confusion we have endured should cease soon after, probably thanks to Mueller’s great reveal.

Stacy may do alright with her lawsuit.

Stacey Abrams – Natal Chart
Dec 9 1973, 12:00 pm, EST +5:00
Atlanta GA, 33°N44’56”, 084°W23’17”

Jup Cnj Sun Jan 30 2019
Jup Cnj Sun Jun 26 2019
Jup Cnj Sun Sep 25 2019


Thank you for the clarification.. I know you like Bernie too. I have been hearing the age issue as well from people, so you are correct it comes up when I see discussions in FB about who will run. I guess I feel bewildered at the cable news channels when they directly say, “who do the Democrats have that can excite their base and attract crowds like Trump?” And I stare at the screen with amazement at their ability to completely ignore the elephant in the room???! I know that many people don’t want him to run, but the fact is there are millions of people who do as well as the youth of the party are most certainly veering left. I am not a Bernie or buster, I voted for Hillary and I will vote for whoever wins the nomination, but to not even have his name being tossed out by the talking heads seems bizarre to me. I look forward to seeing who will jump in.. strap on your seat belt.. it’s going to be a wild ride!

Elisabeth Grace:


Kiwi, Many thanks for your kind thoughts sent to CA. Although The Paradise Fire was hundred of miles north and Malibu Fire hundred of miles south of where we live in the San Francisco Bay Area.
Every day our skys have been totally filled with smoke and the sadness feels as if our own family members have died.

My thoughts of the Election…
We should have both Beto and Sanders holding periodic rallies like Trump.
These two could excite so many voters.
I also believe Joe Biden wants the Presidency more than any other person. A Female VP would be perfect.

Thanks Barbk, You are amazing!
Melania’s Devastating Financial Damage should be included in that ‘Mueller Great Reveal’:


Patty, LG, and anyone else located in CA or with family and friends living in CA, words cannot describe the heartache, shock, and horror over what is happening there. My prayers are continually with you all.

I am curious as to why you think Biden wants the presidency so much. I hadn’t gotten that impression.

Just visited the CNN website, and here’s a picture of Joe Biden looking pretty good with his new adopted German Shepherd.

Here this is for you Patty,


Melania is also going to be experiencing a Uranus transit of her Taurus stellum in the coming approx. 7 years. Speaking as someone who had this happen when Uranus transited my Pisces stellum, there were losses among the changes, but overall, I rec’d quite a boost with lots of exciting upgrades/changes.

Transiting Saturn is beginning to slowly depart from its opposition to US natal Jupiter and Mueller’s natal Saturn as of this weekend, while it approaches its opposition to Trump’s natal Mercury, exact on Dec. 10th.

Meanwhile transiting Mars, now in Pisces, will be opposing Mueller’s natal Jupiter in Virgo (exact on the 19th-20th) while trans. Mars squares TRANSITING Jupiter, now in Sagittarius (exact on 19th) just as that TRANSITING Jupiter squares Mueller’s natal Jupiter (exact on 20th), pushing Mueller into action (trans. Mars, aka “action” opposite Mueller’s Jupiter “big pix reveal” and trans. Jupiter “expand understanding” squaring his natal Jupiter in Virgo “details”).

Without this pressure (on Mueller’s Jupiter and Saturn) he might keep us on pins and needles even longer; Virgo (where Mueller’s Jupiter, Mercury, Chiron and Mars are) can be excruciatingly thorough!

Trump’s Mars and Mueller’s Venus are both at 26+ Leo, and Venus in the Gemini Full Moon chart (Nov. 23 in Washington DC) at 26+ Libra will sextile both, possibly benefiting both men in some way.

The Full Moon chart’s Vesta (discipline) at 26+ Capricorn, conjuncts US natal Pluto (power) at 27+ Capricorn and the FM chart’s South Node (release what doesn’t serve growth) at 28+ Capricorn and they all square the FM chart’s Venus at 26+ Libra.

Oddly, Matt Whitaker has natal Mercury at 25+ Libra square his natal Mars at 25+ Capricorn.

Could this mean Matt Whitaker provides that “possible benefit” to Trump and Mueller (since he is personally under pressure from squares between US Pluto, FM Vesta + South Node in Cap and FM Venus in Libra)? The plot thickens.

“America’s polarized citizenry took a break from intense partisan bickering to produce the highest off-year turnout in a midterm election in 50 years on Nov. 6. Is it possible that all that effort actually nudged us forward a bit?”


Still a lurker, but I don’t post much anymore. Anyway, here in northern California (35 miles south of Sacramento, maybe 85 miles south of Chico/Paradise/Magalia, it’s still terribly smoky. I’ve only ventured out to work or to the store, and the post-apocalyptic skyscape has been quite disheartening. It seems a little bit better today. Just wanted to check in and say hi.

Thanks so much for checking in Jackson! Have been wondering because I thought that you lived somewhere in that neck of the woods. All best wishes to you and yours – may the situation continue to improve – courage in recovery.

very interesting comments following Marjorie’s article regarding patterns of countries with their pluto return, and suppositions on what 2020 forward might bring for usa

Glad to hear how you’re doing, Jackson & how things look a bit better. I can only imagine how disheartened it makes you & everyone else who’s affected feel, as my own heart is very heavy. The U.S. is very familiar in the past years with catastrophes caused by water. Fire seems worse to me. I cry for what CA is going through yet again, but this time around it is worse, and I can barely let myself think about the animals. I would like to hear from LG & Patty and anyone else from that great state about how things are going and how we can help. I heard today that some of the first won’t be controlled for a while. I wonder what in CA’s chart was triggered that caused this to happen.

some of the fires, not first

this earthwindmap shows the CO levels from the fires
click “earth” to change view options to get, eg, SO2 levels.


According to this charge, uranus is transiting CA’s natal uranus/pluto conjunction on the 6 & 7th house cusp, t. pluto is currently square natal saturn at 19 Aries in the 6th house, and t. neptune opposes CA’s 11th house sun in 16 Virgo.


Sharon, that California has a natal Pluto-Uranus conjunction is remarkable enough, but to be having a Uranus Return in which transiting Uranus not only conjuncts natal Uranus but also natal Pluto, AND is quincunx (adjust) natal Jupiter, is not something the inhabitants should think will blow over soon. This is a phenomenon the likes of which I’ve not seen before.

The most recent Uranus-Pluto conjunctions in 1965-66 were at 16-17 Virgo and conjunct the California natal Sun which symbolizes consciousness. All the hippies wanted to come to California didn’t they? Uranus symbolizes revolution and Pluto symbolizes re-birth or transformation.

This Cal. Uranus Return will have 3 exact passes. The 1st one was on May 12 this year, the 2nd one was last Sunday the 11th, and the last one will be March 2, 2019.

Good work on sussing this out Sharon, I’m proud of you! The Uranus Return chart(s) should be studied but I can’t do it right now as I can barely hold my eyes open. I’d love to read what Nancy thinks of this remarkable aspect.

Dear Friends, Sharon, kiwi,

All places have been sold out on air purifiers. Went to the mall at Tanforan and is smoky inside, some of the stores have industrial size air purifiers.

My eyes hurt, my friends say they have no energy but hoping for rain on Tuesday and the only plus to all this is that the sfo flights that flew over have been diverted another path so we have quiet.
These are interesting scary times.

LG: Wow! These are indeed challenging and different times. Much healing energy needed and will be released due to the many prayers going out from those effected. All the best to you and everyone going through these difficulties. If I recall correctly, Los Angeles is the Heart Center of the Earth. N.Y. the solar plexus. The fire devas are very active in the heart center.

Here is what Michael Wolfstar has to say on the fires:


hate to add to the gloom, but I found this buried in the comment section of wolfstar’s site
“- Our current sky map shows very close connections between now and Oct 1987 when the markets crashed from Asia to America.”

Seems we’re on a rocky road for a while yet – hangover after the party? Like drunks, I think the trumpsters will have to hit the bottom before change occurs.

Speaking of finding something buried in the comment section, I found this from Sai Grafio, written on Oct. 3 in Nancy’s “The Naked Emperor”, right after her notice of a new post up . . . .

“The Piscean Age, a cycle of Patriarchy, is coming to a close.” Thanks Sai, this is profound. I think it – the Piscean Age – might also harbour the remnants of tribalism which is so rampant and out in the open now.

Sai goes on to say “The final denouement will be January 2020 as the Capricorn stellium puts a cap on power elitist wield with impunity. Will Pluto drain the swamp?” Dear goddess, I hope so Sai Grafio!

This makes so much sense out of Trumpism and the divide in the USA. All this thrashing about is the dying of the old system(s), the Patriarchy, fighting for breath as it suffocates under the New Order being born into consciousness via Uranus (ruler of Aquarius) in Aries.

Sai was referring to transiting Chiron in Pisces as symbolizing this last ditch outburst of the “alpha male” superiority; what better symbol than Chiron for Pete’s sake – the wounded warrior!!

But there is also transiting Neptune in Pisces now and through January 2026, diluting and washing away the dregs of the dying order and this makes sense too. I’ve observed the tandem effect of transiting Chiron and Uranus – for almost a decade travelling about 30 degrees apart – and now it’s becoming clearer just how Neptune is working with them.

When trans. Chiron and trans. Neptune were conjunct in February, 2010, they were at 26+ Aquarius and the Sun (consciousness) was at 28+ Aquarius. Sandwiched in between them was the US natal Moon at 27+ Aquarius. US natal Pallas (the Strategist) at 26+ Aquarius was in the thick of it too. Opposite them was transiting Vesta at 29+ Leo retrograde.

Transiting Jupiter, who had been conjunct both Neptune and Chiron months earlier, had moved ahead by then to 7+ Pisces and was conjunct transiting Venus. They were just one degree from US natal Ceres (Mother Earth) at 8+ Pisces who squares US natal Uranus (breakthroughs) at 8+ Gemini.

I believe this new cycle start between Chiron and Neptune in 2010 explains much of what has been happening for the last two years.

The 2010 Chiron-Neptune-Sun (+ US Moon-Pallas) in Aquarius opposite the 2010 Vesta (+ Trump ascendant/Mars + August 2017 Solar Eclipse) in Leo laid the groundwork for the Trump US Presidency.

Call me crazy, but I feel this Chiron-Neptune cycle also relates to the California fires, due to the Jupiter-Venus in the Chiron-Neptune chart being so close to US Ceres (Nature) square US Uranus (undisciplined).

“If the ground you’re on seems to be shifting, consider our dramatic moment of astrology. Venus has just moved to direct motion; Mercury has just moved to retrograde motion. And two planets have mounted the mutable cross: Mars has entered Pisces, after seemingly endless months traversing Aquarius, and Jupiter has entered Sagittarius.”


Journalist Carl Bernstein: “This is a dangerous presidency. It’s dangerous to the truth. It’s dangerous to national security. It’s dangerous to the Western alliance… We have seen a war on truth by this President.”


Hi, does anyone have any insight into whether the stock market’s volatility has to do with Taurus in Uranus??

Hi Diana,

Re: The Uranus ingress in Taurus May 16, 2018

Here’s a good article to read…..

Uranus in Taurus The Great Financial Revolution


Uranus has since retrograded back into Aries as of November 6th (ironically enough the day of the midterm elections). It will return to Taurus in early March.

In the meantime there is a fascinating alignment occurring on December 7th that could shake up the US economy. This is the day Trump has threatened a US government shutdown unless congress passes an unrealistic request for an additional 5 billion dollars to fund his proposed border wall; a non sequiter for many in congress. Would Trump use this as an opportunity to distract attention away from the increasing tensions in the Russian investigation? Very likely. To compound the problem this comes on the heels of a threat of an all out trade war with China beginning early December (see related article below)…..

LAST CHANCE: Trump Is Readying Tariffs On The Final $257 Billion Worth of Chinese Goods If Talks To Ease The Trade War Fail


The December 7th New Moon at 15 ’07 Sag is in close square to the Mars/Neptune conjunction (13 ‘33/13 ’44 Pisces) which in turn forms a harsh sesqui-square/ semi-square to the Uranus-Nodes t square (28 ’59 Aries – 28 ’52 Cancer-Capricorn). This will be impacting the Federal Reserve’s natal Saturn–Mercury opposition (13 ’20 Gemini –13 ’58 Sagittarius) in semisquare to its n. Neptune (27 ’31 Cancer).

I suspect December 7th could be the beginning of a major downward trend in world financial markets especially as we approach the December 22nd full Moon (0 ’49 Cancer). This Cancer full moon conjoins the Federal Reserve’s natal Pluto-Sun opposition (0 ‘5 Cancer-1 ’33 Capricorn).

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.

Grateful for your wisdom, kindness, encouragement and help in holding it together this year.

We have survived almost two years of
Trump’s presidency. And this is one of those circumstances where survival is a victory.

Thanks, Teresa :-). The same to you and yours, and to every here in this very interesting, bonded, safe, and supportive space, and especially to Nancy “Starlight”. Difficult to hear about the hardships, pain and losses in the world but while we are here, there is a lot to be thankful for….the gift of life for one, and the Blue Wave for the other! The largest Blue turnout in a long time!

I want to mention that after having Alex a fixture here for quite a few years, I’m wondering what happened. If anyone knows, please share.

everyone, that is!

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone that voted!

Thank you, Nancy for this blog and to all the posters!

Ralfee Finn:


Happy Thanksgiving to all and a special thank you to Nancy for everything you do.

I am so thankful that we took the house.

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone here!

Nancy, I am so thankful and grateful for your blog. Thank you.

Happy Thanksgiving to All!
Special Thanks to you, Nancy for maintaining this space, a relatively safe harbor of goodwill within our increasingly crazy world.

Transiting Pluto has finally entered my 8th House and will not retrograde back into the 7th. My brother and I have a tentative agreement with a family who wants to buy my late mother’s house, the house I presently live in.

My FBI/attorney pal is drawing up a contract, and we expect the closing to take place sometime in the next eight weeks, but probably much sooner. The sale of my mother’s house here in Texas will free me to finally go home to the Pacific Northwest.

Meanwhile we’ve gone through all the legal hoops to establish with the state of Louisiana that we truly own the land there we’ve inherited. The process has taken about a year’s time. There are some real differences between Texas and Louisiana law. We are now waiting on the courthouse in Abbeville, LA to send us the Deed.

Blessings to you All!

Eliseo I am so glad everything is coming together for you.

Eliseo, maybe you should make sure it doesn’t happen until after 12/7 when Mercury goes direct? I have heard, though, that if the deal was initiated before Mercury went retro (11/17), it’s ok

We probably won’t sign the contract until after 12-7. And the closing can’t take place until after we’ve cleared everything out of the house. That’s going to take us into late December or January.

Has anyone ever looked at Trump’s astrocartography? Could be really interesting.

Thank you will for your response to my question on Taurus and Uranus, going to read the article now!

Also, i would like to join in the sentiments of everyone here in wishing all a happy thanksgiving, this forum and its members certainly has become part of my life and i am grateful to all and to Nancy.

I also am grateful that the Dems won back the house, i can’t imagine the feeling now going into Christmas if come January we knew that they hadn’t, the Republicans and Trump can pretend all they want that the midterms were good for them, but it has never NOT been a big deal to lose a house. And lost it they did … i think it’s up to 40 seats now !

happy thanksgiving friends


I so agree with you about being thankful and grateful that we won back the House. I said to a friend, before the election, if we did not take back the house forget buying turkey…just buy alcohol :).

I am working on a new one, hopefully by later today I will post it. It is like getting blood out of a stone these days.

Meanwhile, this is a must-read by Fintan O’Toole. Actually a book review by him of Michael Lewis’ book, The Fifth Risk. It is a deeply disturbing discussion of how the daily crazy of Trump covers up what is really happening.


But Trump confounds us by using as distractions the very things that other politicians want to distract us from. In democracy as we think we have known it, the art of governance is, in part, the skill with which our attention is diverted from the sordid, the shameful, the thuggish. Yet these same qualities are the gaudiest floats in Trump’s daily parade of grotesqueries. This is his strange, and in its own way brilliant, reversal: instead of distracting us from the lurid and the sensational, Trump is using them to distract us from the slow, boring, apparently mundane but deeply insidious sabotaging of government. He is the blaring noise that drowns out the low signal of subversion.

New post up: