10th Jul, 2018

Affirmation in the Face of Carnage

It is a dark and difficult time for many in America, as we watch our once-coveted democracy fracture into the rubbish heap of history. He who feeds on the death of civility, decency, and honor, who thrives on the destruction of people’s lives, and who exults in the American Carnage of his own creation is now in charge, with little significant push back. Only those under the hypnotic thrall of the Buzzard King are celebrating.

It is time to stand up loudly and clearly for what we believe in and not get dragged into a battle for a Supreme Court justice that we cannot win.  Instead, let us focus on articulating our agenda: the protection of the environment against the pollution of industry; the cultivation of free trade and alliances which have only made us stronger over the decades; the treatment of all of our fellow human beings, including those seeking a better and safer life on our shores, with honor and respect;  women’s right to choose what happens to their own bodies; the end of voter suppression for selfish political goals; and a nation based on the rule of law that also demands adherence from those with political or financial power.  In short, a nation built on decency, ethics, and laws, not tyranny, petty grievances, and selfishness. Surely, the Democrats can enunciate something like that!


As might be expected, the astrological indications for the next two and half years suggest a great deal of stress in the US. Transiting Saturn continues its journey through Capricorn, harshly impacting the US Venus, Jupiter, Sun, Saturn, Mercury and Pluto through November 2020, while transiting Pluto will be opposing US Mercury in 2020 and 2021, as well as returning to its own position in 2022. Cumulatively, these configurations point to contraction, stress and sorrow (Saturn) though November 2020, and profound strain followed by transformation (Pluto) of the corporate and trade structure (natal Mercury/Pluto opposition) though 2022. We will emerge in some ways altered and very much humbled.

In the immediate future, the US is entering a time of diminished respect and potency in the world, as the US progressed Sun moves into a quincunx with US 10th house Saturn (14Libra48) from now through early August 2019.  In addition, the transit of Saturn opposite US Venus (3Cancer06) will be in full force from July 22 through October 2, although we are already feeling its effect in July. This transit suggests feelings of deep sorrow and upset in some segment of the population, compounded by the issue becoming a painful national story.  At present, this building configuration is manifesting in the horrid saga of immigrant children snatched from their parents at the border and the abysmal incompetence and heartlessness of the Trump administration in its inability and covert unwillingness to reverse this child abuse despite a court order.

Expect these feelings of grief, loss, and distress to increase over this or another story over the next few months as Saturn essentially sits on the opposition degree to US Venus for two and a half months.  This painful configuration is likely to be triggered from July 26 through August 2 by the transit of Mars square to transiting Uranus, with Mars during much of that time quincunx US Venus. We can expect some act of violence or forceful weather-related event or events to cause significant turmoil and upset at that time.

Ironically, the Trump administration is enjoying the transit of Jupiter opposite the Ascendant (14Taurus06) of the Inaugural chart from June 5 to August 2, enabling Trump and his minions to feel successful and thriving despite huge flashing red lights to the contrary. The current Supreme Court nomination, the success of the Muslim ban in court, and the likely false perception of success in the coming Putin meeting all tend to feed this grandiose and over-confident narrative. But transiting Neptune is presently in a semisquare with the Inaugural Sun (00Aquarius50) from June 18 to August 7, pointing to the delusional nature of all that seems currently to be going in the administration’s favor. Eventually, reality will catch up with a big, loud Boom!


Hopefully that boom is the sound of Mueller’s press conference announcing charges against the Trump crime family in collusion with Putin.

Near the bottom of the last thread, someone asked the exact time of Trump’s announcement of his Supreme Court nominee.

Found a clip of CNN carrying it live with a time stamp. Trump said the name just a few seconds before 9:06 p.m. About 9:05:55

Nancy – the question of whether to fight what may be an unwinnable fight is a big one. I had vacillated about this. The potential for very many people to get hurt by the court is very real. Kavanaugh may or may not be bad – I think he will be very bad – as you yourself have stated – and I agree – he has been touched by the monster himself and is now infected for all intents and purposes. Mitch is a son of a bitch. Pence is worse. Why give them a pass. I wouldn’t and I now think we should fight this every step of the way. If nothing else it might help turn out our voters in November.

Thanks, Nancy (I think) for this article. It does sound like they (the Trumpistas) are not going anywhere soon. Some of the treasonous senators upon their return from Russia are suggesting we go easy on sanctions (surprise). And then there is this, the grand bargain. What is coming clear is how far back all of this has been brewing.


What’s happening and coming is heartbreaking in everyway. Brava to you Starlight/Nancy for so smartly articulating a national agenda for us. I sincerely wish we had strong leadership to make a clear and passionate case like this for our country. For now, it seems we’re stuck with a hand that has no face cards. Hurry hurry Bob Mueller.

Nancy, It might be possible that the hardship this summer for the U.S. might also be the truth coming out about Trump and the Republicans, and that, even while this Jupiterian gloss that gives them some wins is applying, they will have a fight on their hands and have to hang tough while their structure continues to erode. One can hope.

Schiff has an exact Saturn opp to his sun 0’34” cancer) in the first few weeks of Sept. and his venus isn’t all that far away at 0’23”. He will be involved somehow in the fight.

From Marjorie Orr:

“…He’ll face a gruelling grilling, likely to be after the recess because of the amount of documentation to be sifted through in the discovery process. And he will face tough questions over his part in Kenneth Starr’s attempt to prosecute Bill Clinton and his later comment that presidents should be exempt from such, amongst other things.

He’s not looking remotely upbeat this month with tr Neptune square his Mars/Saturn midpoint, perhaps because of the level of hostility he’s facing from Democrats. Tr Neptune then opposes his Pluto in August/early September, then opposes his Uranus/Pluto in September/October and opposes his Uranus thereafter. Plus he has his Solar Arc Mars conjunct his Neptune this year which is generally not favourable for ambitions…”



The time, effort, and knowledge you put into these astrological analysis of our time, show. Thank you. I can only ask for divine intervention, because the political climate seems daunting and perilous.

Another victory for Putin. This is the American lawyer who represented Putin’s bank, Alfa Bank,
in the US. He is about to be confirmed as the head of the Criminal Investigations Unit at the US Dept of Justice.


Boy, I wish YOU were the President Nancy, even if we still had to go through these learning lessons, we would at least understand why.

I am glad you noted the transiting Mars square transiting Uranus, with trans. Mars quincunx US Venus from approx. July 26 through August 2. I looked at the chart for the conjunction between Mars and Uranus (Feb. 26, 2017), noting it took place about 7 1/2 hours after a solar eclipse at 8+ Pisces, conjunct US natal Ceres. Transiting Neptune was at 11+ Pisces at the time.

In the chart for the Mars-Uranus conjunction (22 Aries), Jupiter was in opposition (22+ Libra rx). Also, Eris (discord) was conjunct Mars and Uranus at 22+ Aries. This could be rancorous.

Since transiting Nessus (abuse of power) will be at 8+ Pisces rx, conjunct US Ceres and the Feb 26 2017 eclipse, it could be that the transiting Mars-Uranus square will intensify the immigrant children tragedy and, since Ceres symbolizes Mother Nature as well as a mother’s grief, some torrential weather (Neptune conjunct Eclipse) could also be part of the picture, as you suggested.

With trans. Mars (force) quincunx (adjust) US Venus (values), and trans. Uranus (shock) in Taurus (ruled by Venus) square Mars in Aquarius (groups) while also sextile US Venus in Cancer (families), the result might even force another change in (Trump) policy and/or process regarding the reunion of immigrant parents with their children.

To add to the tumult, transiting Nessus-conjunct-US Ceres (at the time of trans. Mars-square-trans. Uranus) and also the Feb. 2017 eclipse, will square US natal Uranus at 8+ Gemini, where the Neptune-Pluto cycle (still in progress) began.

This will also activate another ongoing cycle, the one between Saturn-Neptune that began in 1989. At the time, trans. Pholus (small cause, big event) was conjunct US natal Uranus at 8+ Gemini, so in addition to the transits coming up, there will be two ongoing cycles throwing their weight around later this month.

Better to be aware and prepared than to be one of the masses who won’t, I would think.

Note that the Mars Uranus square is in fixed signs (more potent) and protracted, due to Mars’ very slow movement. It could be nasty. It also follows a very brief Sun/Mars opposition. It is hard not to think this will all connect to the simultaneous Saturn transit to US Venus.

“As the Philistine moved closer to attack him, David ran quickly toward the battle line to meet him. 49 Reaching into his bag and taking out a stone, he slung it and struck the Philistine on the forehead. The stone sank into his forehead, and he fell facedown on the ground.

50 So David triumphed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone; without a sword in his hand he struck down the Philistine and killed him.”

Get it?

Will: Love the quote; thank you.

There’s no question Nancy, it is bound to be connected and Saturn’s transit (in Capricorn) opposite US Venus would almost assure that there is no silver lining to be found anywhere. It appears to be taking us to a level of reality we don’t relish going to, and yet, here is transiting (direct) Jupiter in transformative Scorpio, exactly trine the US natal Sun.

For 40 days and nights trans. Jupiter exactly trines the US Cancer Sun. It stationed direct – super strong – yesterday. Surely there must be a pony in here somewhere, what with all this horse s**t knee deep!

And this Jupiter also trines trans. Neptune who occupies the degree where Jupiter was in the Neptune-Pluto cycle start (that was conjunct US Uranus). I feel sure we are on the right track because there are supporting aspects helping get us through the heartbreaking events that keep coming at us.

In the lunar eclipse (Aquarius Moon conjunct South Node and Mars) on July 27th, Pluto (19+ Cap) trines Venus (19+ Virgo) and both trine US natal Vesta (the workaholic) at 19+ Taurus. It looks like this eclipsed Moon + South Node + Mars + US natal South Node (3 – 6 Aquarius) is saying “Let go of something that no longer works” and let Pluto and Venus (and our Vesta) get rid of it for you.

Eclipsed Moon-Mars-South Node are opposite Sun(4+ Leo) and North Node (5+ Leo) and US natal North Node (6+ Leo) that will be revealing opportunities to get us onto the right path.

Transiting Uranus in Taurus is pushing us to get out of our comfort zone and do something reckless. So is transiting maverick Chiron in Aries who provides us a brand new bridge to cross over into some uncharted territory that Jupiter is opening up.

Mars is the symbol of courage too.

David and will,

Thank you, so very much for your posts.

If I may do a tad bit of piggybacking….

What if MLK had said, “…ugh, this is too haaaard! Why bother?! They’ll just throw me back in jail.”

What he, Rosa Parks and the other freedom fighters did, was illegal. They risked jail, beatings, dogs, harassment, even death by lynching…But they did it anyway. Bless them all.

Regarding your last post on the prior entry…

Wow–how did you know? I didn’t suspect he’d ever be involved in something so vile. The way he’s lying….after those men so bravely came forward and said how much they liked him. Smh.

Hoping you are also right about the scandal (and attention to it) growing, in time. Keeps him away from pointless hearings to persecute the DoJ and FBI.

Thank you Nancy.

Here is Ralfee Finn today:


it’s a challenge working through the changes occurring, but made purposeful through education. Your observations contribute to this deep pool of understanding, Nancy. Same applies to all the knowledgeable posters.

My heart cries for those being purposely abused. i can’t help but ask “where are we headed”? Equally, “Where are we returning”?


“It ain’t over till (or until) the fat lady sings”

“IMPORTANT: Tonight, Trump issued an order replacing non-partisan career Administrative Judges — who decide on benefits cases & regulations — with his own political appointees. A HUGE POWER GRAB. I warned about this in a column I wrote last November:”

@Ronald Klain on TWITTER

Thanks Nancy. We have to keep fighting this fight for democracy and for the good of humanity.

Lexi, thank you on your reminders of the fight and hardship of MLK and Rosa Parks and others who joined in that fight.

“Brian Benczkowski represented Russia’s Alfa-Bank and Republicans are trying to quickly confirm him to lead the DOJ Criminal Division that would allow him to oversee the ongoing Russia Probe. The proof of an active conspiracy is literally their own actions.”

RickyDavila on Twitter

Lexi, know about what? If you mean Hastert I sensed something about him before I knew he’d been a wrestling coach. Physically he’d become what people tend to think molesters look like. Perhaps the guilt got to him. He left office looking like Dorian Gray’s portrait. Whatever, he looked like a man who was carrying around a lot of guilt about something. The news he was paying off one of his victims was the final nail in the coffin. I’ll admit that at that point I was holding both a nail and the hammer to pound it in with.

Molesters don’t look like that unless they’re pretty careless or stupid. They work on passing as normal — and some justify what they do as normal — and they take jobs where youngsters are available to them. Not all coaches are molesters, but parents should pay attention to anyone who wants to hang around their kids, just to be sure.

I have a cop friend, Scorpio sun, who tells me I think like a cop. All I can say is that little bells go off. My ascendant is Scorpio plus it’s pretty much all over my chart, according to an excellent astrologer I know. It’s not infallible but it forces me to keep looking when I smell something.

Self-righteousness is another clue. Loudly hollering about religion and their god is another. So are the brave ones who come forward and cause the self-righteousness and cloak of religion to become suspect to everyone.

All I know for sure about Jordan is that there’s a basic dishonesty there. But a lot of Republicans smell of dishonesty and hypocrisy and it presents in so many ways…

Jordan and his minions are attacking the messengers. This is often a diversionary tactic. They protest too much, so to speak. All we can do is keep watching until Jordan’s probable front is removed by public scrutiny. Maybe all there is to his sickness is simple Republican misogyny, which is bad enough and often leads to molestation of adults. Or maybe it’s just the ability to look the other way if that’s the self-serving tack.

I suppose Nancy is echoing the popular idea of vultures and buzzards in this piece but lest we forget the utility of Nature’s janitors — without carrion feeders like vultures and sharks, our world would be overwhelmed with disease vectors and dead things cluttering up the place like an episode of Hoarders.

I admit that I am endeared by the humble Turkey Vulture’s curiosity and personality moreso than the annoying pop up advert style of personality of your average barn owl.

We may not like buzzards or Trump, but they both provide a necessary function.

We must gird our loins to rise up to the challenges this political roughage will deal us.

Also has anyone drawn Brett Kavanaugh’s Solar Return chart for this year?

Someone with that long a politically adjacent career has to have a skeleton or two in his background.

I dont see this happening but the Dems must insist on not letting a sitting President under investigation actually *pick* what will become a judge in his case. Right????

AquariusMoon, I do admire your appreciation of the service that buzzards and vultures provide, while I also agree with Nancy that it is hard to watch them do it (their service) to something you have loved all your life. My synonym for what is transpiring to the USA is of a surgeon removing a cancerous growth, also not fun to watch for most people.

At the time of the US natal chart’s Saturn Return (3 passes in 2010, 11) the series of transiting squares between Pluto and Uranus was underway with trans. Pluto opposite US natal Venus (values) and Jupiter (expansion), and transiting Uranus forming a T-square with all of them. This would become a big part of the syllabus for US natal Saturn’s upcoming 29+ year assignment within the US natal chart’s periphery.

The Saturn Return chart (3rd of 3) also had Mars (the surgeon) square Saturn and only 3 degrees from the US Sun in Cancer. Transiting Sun in Virgo however, was trine Pluto which opposed US Venus-Jupiter in Cancer which the Saturn Return’s Sun in Virgo sextiled.

I take this as meaning that the patient (US or at least US Saturn) was to have surgery in order to save its life, and with the patient’s permission (trans. Sun trine trans. Pluto and trans Mars conjunct US Sun).

However, on another level the Moon in the Saturn Return chart in Leo was opposite the US natal Moon in Aquarius which was 2 degrees from transiting Neptune. Moon symbolizing the People, specifically their feelings, was in a bind.

There is a sextile between the Saturn Return chart’s Pallas (the Planner) in Capricorn and Ceres (the Nurturer) in Pisces and they form a Yod to the Saturn Return Moon in Leo (that conjuncts Trump’s natal Mars). This would require Saturn Return Moon (and Trump’s Mars) to adjust, not an easy thing to accomplish without a lot of drama (Moon in Leo).

In any case, with US natal Moon in Aquarius (conjunct US natal Pallas the Planner and trans. Neptune) opposite the Saturn Return’s Moon (+ Trump Mars), that Yod was converted into a Boomerang, putting ALL the combined energy into the hands of the US People (aka US Moon).

Like it or not, it will be the US People that have an incredible amount of say in just what is removed from the patient, determining whether or not the patient will survive. The US Moon (US People), with its combined Boomerang power of Saturn Return’s Ceres, Pallas, Moon (+ Trump Mars) could, through Saturn power, determine the outcome of this life-threatening crisis.

Other factors indicated in the US Saturn Return to consider is its Venus at 8+ Virgo (where transiting Orcus has been for a long time now) that squares US natal Uranus at 8+ Gemini (where Neptune and Pluto hooked up) and opposes US natal Ceres and Nessus in Pisces, and US Nessus is having its own Return now. This could go either way for the patient.

Finally, the South Node in this Saturn Return chart at 20+ Gemini conjuncts US natal Mars (21+ Gemini) that conjuncts Trump’s Sun (22+ Gemini) suggesting it could use some purging too.

I hear the analogy of cancer or vultures – but its one thing to accept the need for a modern skilled surgeon to remove a cancer, and quite another to have doctor/butcher with skills apparently on par with those from the dark ages.
I would be more ready to accept the concept as that agent if I could see that he was really cleaning things up – what I see, is that his brand of treatment is just enlarging the cancer further, and creating a dead wasteland of bones.
Trump acts primarily out of fear – he has no capacity of empathy, or compassion, or love of humanity – therefore, IMO, the true surgeon for genuine healing is yet to be revealed.

Thank You Nancy.
The dark truth is the dark truth.
Excellent work as usual.

I’ve interviewed 100’s if not 1000’s of people in my lifetime, doing intakes and pre-diagnosis at psychiatric hospitals, and as a criminal investigator in Seattle. I’m pretty comfortable chatting up strangers to find out what they believe, think, and dream about. I’m pretty appalled lately that so many know so little of what is going on. They are too busy working their two (sometimes three) jobs to follow the news much.

Meanwhile, most intellectuals realized about the time of the crisis on the Texas/Mexico border that we have a Fascist president who is in the early stages of fascist-izing the various arms and branches of our government and of our culture.

The old saying about someone “turning over in their grave,” all our dead presidents are surely spinning at high speed. Meanwhile I’m meeting a number of “normal” young adult intellectuals all of whom are very, very depressed as they too are aware of who and what Trump truly is.

And I agree kiwi, there is lots to yet be revealed.

Trump is the wakeup, the alarm clock, the clown before main act. Look at the stunned faces on the people in Congress, or the media people when it first began to penetrate our consciousness that he was mad as a hatter. Now look at the faces of our allies as it affects them directly.

You and I and all of us are still in the stunned stage of this process. We (as a whole in the US) have become too divided (polarized) to seek fixes to our problems, so we continue to put off the huge challenges, leaving that job for “others” to do later.

Trump focuses our attention on specifics – like a bulldozer would. We all see what he’s doing and we talk and talk about how awful it is. He should have done this or that, not what he did. Our country’s Mars is in Gemini a gabby sign, not like Capricorn or Aries for example. Even our progressed Mars is in another air sign, Libra, and retrograde, and will be for an enormously long time.

However, our prog. Mars attached itself to Trump’s Jupiter. Why would it do that? Because US prog. Mars is also now conjunct the US Constitution signing chart’s Neptune (think compassion or confusion or drug regulations or just plain crazy). It’s begging us, We The People, to wake up and take charge and Mars is making it happen by empowering the craziest public figure in the country.

Trump’s own natal Mars, however, is in dramatic, showtime Leo, where the Great American Eclipse took place last year. That Leo Eclipse opposed the US natal Moon (the US People) in Aquarius and Trump’s own natal Ophelia (madness) as well.

The Pluto (devastation) in that chart for the Great American Eclipse was opposite the eclipse Ceres (grieving mothers) but trine the eclipse Vesta (what we invest in) in Virgo (service). Both eclipse Pluto and eclipse Vesta formed a grand trine to US natal hardworking Vesta, making it easy to do something tangible (earth signs).

Eclipse Vesta was opposite Eclipse Neptune in Pisces (compassion, compassion, compassion). Think Puerto Rico, think asylum seekers, think tiny children separated from their parents to teach foreigners of a certain color to not come here. The Leo eclipse was saying “Do something about this; this isn’t the way Americans should act.”

The true surgeon is us, we must cut away the diseased parts and heal ourselves. We the People need a plan and US Moon (the US People) conjuncts US Pallas (the Planner). We can do it.
The answers will come but we must snap out of it, this fog we are in, first. Don’t just talk; vote and volunteer. That’s a great starting point.

did anyone watch Rachael tonight? A must see as more pieces fall into view –
she talks about the vilification of former FBI agent Strzok by gop to discredit entire Russia investigation, yet he was actually the go-to-expert in charge of the trail exposing soviet spys embedded in usa for decades, including 2010 indictment for conspirators.

‘Starlightnews’ is our Blessed Shelter from this Horrific Storm. Nancy, Thank You So Much!

Talk About “Be-Best”….
Obama ‘BEST’ President of recent years, Pew Survey Finds: President Barack Obama may no longer be in the Oval Office, but many Americans believe he did “THE BEST JOB” of any President in their lifetime, according to a new Pew Research Center survey.


Appreciate reading your thoughts and analysis on Jordan and Hastert. Very astute observations by you!

You especially seemed to nail Jordan’s self-righteous ranting. I’m just so sad (and angry) for the wrestlers who so bravely shared their truth, only to be dismissed as liars by Jordan and his “freedom caucus” colleagues.

I can’t recall if the GOP gathered their wagons ’round Hastert when his scandal started. But if more comes out about Jordan and what happened to the young men on the team, they may all live to regret backing Jim Jordan so fast.

The latest from Bill Herbst–on Roe v. Wade:


I agree with his sentiments. The Right has indeed lost its mind and must be stopped. They have sold out their own principles and are playing to win for its own sake (and for fear of loss of control since they are authoritarian), but they haven’t been made to pay a price for it yet.

Meanwhile, the Left (or what passes for it) has essentially rolled over and sold out to corporate money. We’re starting to see more people wake up, but it will likely take even bigger shocks like Roe v. Wade being overturned by a SCOTUS stacked with Right Wing justices before more people snap out of their stupor and realize what the hell is going on, and then do something about it.

Honestly, I’d love to see us “reboot” the US with Pluto in Aquarius. Power to the people and social organization, ideally, although our tech obsession could be the dark side and our ultimate undoing of such a placement.

It’s obvious that we’re seeing the absolute worst of Pluto in Capricorn now with Saturn himself thrown in too–ultra-conservatism, corporatism, elitism, and authoritarianism clamping down and choking the life out of everything and everyone that doesn’t belong to the top 1%.

It’s time to slay the terrible fathers who are devouring their kids.

Lexi, Hastert retired in 2007, so the official reaction of the Congress is relatively moot.

One Democratic member, now retired from the Congress, has said that he heard about accusations re the then-former Speaker but said they didn’t appear to be either reliable or serious enough to warrant action. He has said it was because he had no direct knowledge of the events. Members serving at the time have said they heard nothing about it. The response was the same when Hastert was nailed for lying to the FBI about the payments he’d been making to an alleged victim. Nobody knew anything about Hastert.

Of note is the fact that Hastert was beloved in his hometown because he brought them the state wrestling championship in 1976. We all know, of course, that a state wrestling championship is far more important than the lives of the young men that were destroyed by their trusted coach.

When asked why he never spoke up when it was happening, one of the victim’s answer was that no one in town would have believed him.

These things always follow a pattern.

Good article by Bill Herbst, BuckeyeShadow…thank you. I believe his position is that R v W will be overturned and it will be, in effect, the last straw and the motivating factor that finally gets those who oppose living in a combined theocracy and plutocracy (a plutocratic theocracy or vice versa) to ACT.

Trump at NATO:
‘Like Watching Psychiatrists With a Disturbed Child,’
“We have a Fool For a President” Lt. Colonel Ralph Peters, former strategic and military analyst for Fox News, slammed Trump in an interview on the CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360.” He strongly criticized Trump’s behavior saying that: “We’re faced with the real, immediate and perhaps irreparable damage to this greatest of alliances, NATO.” Peters continues, saying that “one thing that Trump is indisputably brilliant at is Propaganda.

I keep seeing in my mind, roman coliseum chariot races and gladiator battles in connection with the current rabid gop types; Modern day wrestling crowds, all screaming for ‘their’ winner. Football games also have that same veil – to win at all costs. Us good, them bad. All tribal/first chakra energy at the core.
What lessons to learn from the fall of rome?

Kiwi, as a follow up to Rachel last night, turn on the TV now (it’s been on all day) to see this farce of house hearings of that same FBI man, Strozok. It is so difficult to listen to and so senseless and so incredibly sad that he is being treated like a criminal. What have we become?

Bailey, its almost as though the gop majority have been duped into being cooperative Russian agents also. If, as Rachael says, people in power were intentionally cultivated over the past 20+ years, maybe so.

Kiwi, that hearing was absolutely mind boggling. That would be a lot of people that would have to have been cultivated but something nefarious is definitely going on.

Bailey, I think the sugar coating for the gop’s cooperation, is gobs of money for personal use above allegiance to country.
“the LOVE of money (aka power/influence) is the root of all evil”

Its even more mind boggling when one considers most of the source of Russian wealth is from raping mother earth of her resources and gifts.
Apparently a russian asbestos company is using trump’s mugshot to promote their product.

Trump testified before Congress after 9/11 that if they had used asbestos in the towers, they’d still be standing. And, yes, they are selling Trump asbestos in Russia.

from Marjorie: Trump Germany and follow the money

If anyone is interested..

This is a Terry Gross interview on Fresh Air with Rev. Rob Schenck. An evangelical pastor that was deeply involved in the pro-life movement for 25 years. He was discussing his book, “Costly Grace” – An Evangelical Minister’s Rediscovery of Faith, Hope and Love.
“Once Militantly Anti-Abortion, Evangelical Minister Now Lives ‘With Regret”

He says of the alliance with Donald Trump, “it has compromised our spiritual and moral integrity. In fact, I titled my chapter on Donald Trump, Donald Trump and the Moral Collapse of American Evangelicalism. I think it’s a Faustian bargain with Donald Trump. And I think it may lead to the demise of american evangelicalism.”


Very interesting! ThankYou for that!
When I put on my sociology hat, and my history of religion hat, with all the data that comprises, plus adding in my intuition, I see the Trump era as the beginning of the end, not the end itself of not just evangelical religiosity, but of all dogmatic religion, not the end of religion, but the end of DOGMATIC religions generally, as well as our Quisling Republican party.

Evangelicalism completely sold itself out for the devil himself. It deserves to perish.

Trump’s child stealing plan began back in the summer of 2017. This article reviews some of the steps and asks how career lawyers at DOJ could allow this. The fact is that many of these career lawyers, along with career officers at other agencies are all leaving en masse. Even if we were able to get rid of Trump and his ilk now, it will take generations to rebuild our government.


The ACLU is now saying it cannot confirm that any of these children have been reunited. The US Govt. is denying access to lawyers and human rights workers.



“Even if we were able to get rid of Trump and his ilk now, it will take generations to rebuild our government.”

Perhaps that is reflected in the USA progressed chart with the retrograde Mars until 2086?

“Trump’s child stealing plan began back in the summer of 2017.”

Again, Leo Solar Eclipse, August 21, 2017:

Ceres 17+ Cancer (square US prog. Mars, Constitution chart’s Neptune and Trump’s Jupiter at 17+ Libra) opposite Pluto 17+ Capricorn

Mercury 8+ Virgo (septile Ceres 17+ Cancer) opposite US Ceres 8+ Pisces (conjunct US Nessus-abuse of power – and Child) .. while also squaring US Uranus 8+ Gemini (and the Neptune-Pluto conjunction) Septile = forks in the road of destiny (Robert Wilkinson, Aquarius Papers)

Uranus 28+ Aries trine Eclipsed (hidden) Sun 28+ Leo (conjunct Trump Mars and ascendant in Leo and opposite US Moon) and square US Pluto 27+ Capricorn


Your very welcome! I have long been a fan of Frank Schaeffer and I wonder if the two have crossed paths at this point?

If we are to truly be moving into a higher vibration, a higher spiritual consciousness, a collective evolution, it is is imperative to cast off these old dogmatic belief systems. I had thought that this process was going to be through Pence, but maybe Pence isn’t even necessary except to have helped put the religious right in this position of, as Rev. Schneck said, “selling one’s soul” in the deal they have made with Trump. I remember as a child being terrified of the book of Revelations. Now, as an adult (even though I will admit I still have residual unresolved trauma) I can look at those words, not so much with that fear but with a deeper understanding of what “the end times” actually means. It isn’t what they think and what is ending isn’t this heathen secularism and humanism they so despise, but rather their tribal, legalistic, dogmatic and dangerous doctrine that has been driving force of so much pain and suffering in the world.

“President Trump refused to take questions from CNN’s Jim Acosta at today’s news conference with PM May: (saying)

“CNN is fake news. I don’t take questions from CNN. John Roberts of Fox. Let’s go to a real network.”

This man is really trying to destroy democracy. He is sickening but beautiful to see the massive demonstrations against “the Ugly American”, Trump.

Omg angelight, when i read your last post with trump refusing to take questions from CNN and what he said about Fox News being a real network, it’s making my blood boil, is just so wrong what is happening !

Fox in the evening isn’t even news at all, it’s just their vile opinion based shows, its disgusting….

My mother goes to sleep every night with Fox on and wakes up to it. It makes me sick. She’s English, so yesterday she tells me that she got nostalgic seeing pics of beautiful England and trump and Melania who she tells me she likes so much and just looked so absolutely stunning

I know i shouldn’t let it get to me but so far i have failed miserably with this. I was so annoyed i txted my sister in law this message

On another note my mum made me sick with going on about how beautiful melanoa looked in England. Like who the hell cares. Yeah she always looks classy. And? A fricking trophy wife who has no marriage.yet is the First Lady so that in its essence is just a farce. But give me a break a trophy wife nude model who still goes on about Obama and birtherism
And had nothing good to say about the border Children and wore a jacket saying i don’t care. The Fox News bubble and people like my mum actually liking people like her just truly sickens me to no end leigh

And her reply

i totally understand. she really just romanticizes them. i don’t know why; nor do i understand why everyone in my family except robert voted for him ITs crazy town

Anyways i just had to vent, it helps to do so

Sorry, i meant to take out ‘fricking’

barbk, that is when they began their baby stealing operations.

silcominc, amazing isn’t it? Fits like a glove. Astrology is the only source of information I trust anymore.

Peter Strzok, the F.B.I. deputy assistant director, undermined the logic of his inquisitors during Thursday’s joint House committee, questioning their motivation, and even their patriotism.


How ’bout that solar eclipse last night!

Uranus and Juno (with the Queen’s Sun sandwiched in between them) in Taurus, trine Saturn in Capricorn, trine Venus and Ceres in Virgo create a grand trine which is providing fodder for the eclipsed Sun’s opposition to Pluto (that makes a grand cross to the opposition between US Chiron in Aries and US Juno in Libra).

Intensifying this, Mueller’s Jupiter, just one degree from the Eclipse Venus and 3 from Eclipse Ceres partakes of this feeding frenzy. Remember Mueller’s natal Pholus (small cause, big effect) at 20+ Capricorn is where the Eclipse Pluto is now. Yummy, yum.

Eclipse Venus, Ceres and Mueller’s Jupiter are also positioned at the apex of a Yod with Eclipse Chiron [wounded] in Aries which sextiles Eclipse South Node [release] in Aquarius (which is still conjunct retro Mars), and this will cause some shifting on the part of Venus + Ceres + Mueller’s Jupiter.

How this affects the eclipse grand trine might be seen when trans. Mars and trans. South Node are exactly conjunct on Friday, July 20th – Fridays being the new “Big-News-Dumps Day.

In any case, we had the thrill of witnessing the Queen’s dismissive court visit of Trump today and a chance to watch Rosenstein (whose North Node at 22+ Gemini conjuncts Trump’s Sun and US natal Mars), fully in control, delivering the latest details of the indictments of the Mueller investigation.

It must be Friday.

Diana, I too cannot see why anyone would or could vote for the con man Trump. Never been successful, really. Businesses failed, bankruptcy. Had to turn to Russia to get loans. Made fun of the disabled and groping, wow!

New Linda G:

Justice Department
Justice Department Verified Account

Today at 11:45AM ET: Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein will hold a press conference for a law enforcement announcement. Watch live at justice.gov/live
7:24 AM – 13 Jul 2018

Actual start time was at 12:11 pm in the Robert F. Kennedy Building.



After getting used to this assault you will miss him.

Friday the 13th freebie.


“The FBI informed Maryland officials that the state’s voter registration & election management system operate on a software platform owned by a Russian-financed firm, AltPoint Capital Partners, whose largest investor is a Russian oligarch, Vladimir Potanin.”

Julia Davis on Twitter

‘Evil Has Won’
Pro-American Germans Feel Betrayed!

BERLIN — Klaus Scharioth, who served as Germany’s ambassador to the United States during both George W. Bush’s and Barack Obama’s administrations, was born in 1946, the year after Germany’s surrender in World War II. His earliest impressions of America were of a magnanimous, generous country. Continued:

Thanks for the Linda G link fierywoman.

David Johnson

When will Trump supporters turn on him? 7 13 18 at 1 44 PM


Near the end he says we are going to give a sigh of relief in 6 months. That will be in January when a new Congress is sworn in.


Linda the Comanche,

Heap big ha-ha! Her mojo makes me smile. Unique.


I know some here don’t like royal ‘protocol’ but this behaviour is so not surprising – he just does not care about anyone but himself. Manners, what manners?
“Donald Trump has raised eyebrows across the Commonwealth after his brash approach to meeting Queen Elizabeth.
….. He also walked in front of the Sovereign, which is a big no-no for anyone, even her own family members. Mr Trump didn’t break protocol by turning up exactly on time, but it was considered rude as guests of the Queen are expected to arrive early. ”


did anyone watch this piece by Anderson cooper? No wonder trump tries to tar him with the ‘fake news’ mantra

Warning! Don’t laugh or else … .
You know … .

Taken from Jamie Raskin at Thursday’s Joint House Judiciary and Oversight Committee hearing (paraphrased):

tRump’s Witch hunt is or has been run by:

Attorney General Jeff Session’s, a Republican, appointed by Trump.

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, a Republican, appointed by Trump.

FBI Director James Comey, a Republican, appointed by Trump.

FBI Director Christopher Wray, a Republican, appointed by Trump.

Special Council Robert Mueller, a life long Republican.

How prominent Republicans have referred to tRump:

Ted Cruz – ‘a sniveling coward, pathological liar, serial philanderer’.

Marco Rubio – ‘unworthy of being our president’.

Paul Ryan – ‘I am not going to defend Donald Trump, not now, not in the future’.

Rex Tillerson – ‘a moron’.

Scott Pruitt – ‘an empty vessel when it comes to the Constitution’.

Steve Bannon – ‘like an 11 year old child’.

H.R. McMaster – ‘a dope and an idiot with the intelligence of a kindergartner’.

Karl Rove – ‘a complete idiot’.

Duncan Hunter – ‘an a-hole but he’s our a-hole’.

Gary Cohn – ‘an idiot surrounded by clowns’.

Thanks Bob; at last, something I can agree with Republicans on!

Lucky Us… Linda G just posted another video just now 7 minutes ago 🙂


Hey you guys, Trump has natal Apollo conjunct his ascendant at 29 Leo 48. That explains everything.

Apollo is an asteroid and anything it conjuncts is just the greatest whatever – Venus, Moon, Sun, Mercury, ascendant, whatever. People like Trump (what am I saying?), they just can’t help themselves.


ed tamplin this week looks at yesterdays eclipse degree @21 cancer, the day of the Russian spy announcement, and an eclipse degree @20 cancer at the time of the exposure of the 2010 Russian spy exposure. A must read.

Thanks kiwi, Ed Tamplin’s noting of the “Cancer Ingress of the Sun” aka the “Summer Solstice” of 2001 (a couple of months before 911), with its Neptune at 8+ Aquarius rx, is yet another “coincidence” involving the Thursday July 12, 2018 Eclipse, with Mars just one degree away (7+ Aquarius rx) from the 2001 Summer Solstice chart’s Neptune.

Transiting Mars was exactly at the 8+ Aquarius degree two days before the Eclipse but also back at Trump’s birthday and the New Moon conjunct his natal Sun (22+ Gemini) on June 13. At that time both Mars and the trans. South Node were at 8+ Aquarius. It will return there in September.

Remember when we were finding political figures with planets at or around 9 Aquarius, e.g.,

Mitch McConnell: Venus at 5 and Mercury at 11
Paul Ryan: Sun at 9, Venus at 10

I know Nancy has said that the parameters for conjunction is 2 degrees before and after the placement so, except for Paul Ryan, these are loose.

There were many more….any significance?

Sharon, I would love someone to do some undercover digging of McConnell. He behaves as if he is absolutely complicit in some way – e.g. blocking harry Reid’s request to let the public know about Russian hacking, and also blocking scotus vote. There has got to be a big pile of dirt there. Not that any exposure of dirt would necessarily affect his current senate tenure, but it may importantly throw needed shade on his influence. I think theyre holding something over ryan too which would explain why hes been so impotent at reigning in the house nutcases.

I’m with you Kiwi. I think they are all guilty. Someone said that the GOP realized in early 2016 that they could only win with Putin’s help and without it, they would lose. I think that rings true.

Meanwhile Trump tries to throw everyone off Track!
Frequent Liar Trump Engages In New Conspiracy Theories: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/05/24/tapper_on_spygate_frequent_liar_trump_engages_in_conspiracy_theories.html
Bret Stephens: “Ideological Affinity” Between Putin And Trump Is More Important Than “Tactical Collusion”

Thanks Barb, this is for you, on Apollo – good connection, especially sitting on the ascendant! There are so many articles on the myth of the god Apollo that it is hard to sort him out, but this article gets to the heart of the matter. If Apollo is about being the greatest, it also fits being a great lover of self who isn’t known to be good to his friends and partners! Apollo was a healer, but he also brought disease, which suits the dual nature of man, i.e. contradictory. Trump to a T, only there isn’t nearly enough of the “great” side by comparison to the disease.


Thanks Beowulfie! At least now we know why he is a boorish slob; now we know why he thinks he is a god. I truly believe he was created to do what he’s doing; dismantling institutions so we MUST rebuild them, taking care this time to remove the easy roads leading to corruption.

This is a “lesson” that everyone must learn, therefore it must be apparent to even the most obtuse among us. Alas, I had no idea there were so many of them, yet another reason for his existence; raising awareness of just who “we” are.

Referring to silcominc on July 13th, 2018
at 12:40 am, “Trump’s child stealing plan began back in the summer of 2017.” This is reminiscent of the part in George Orwell’s Animal Farm, where the head pig, Napoleon, takes puppies away from their mother and they are never seen again. Then when dissent is brewing, the protesters are attacked by vicious dogs. Those puppies were groomed to be Napoleon’s security detail.

Just makes you wonder if something like that might be going on with those kids that were stolen. Very, very creepy.

Elisabeth Grace:


Just heard Trump’s latest unctuous tweet praising Putin for his wonderful hosting of the World Cup. The first thing that came to my mind was “Putiin’s got his bitch.”

Wondering if anyone here on Starlightnews can teach me about what an Ascension Chart is about; is it archaic, reliable, etc?

last night I watched a doco about Ben Bradlee of the Washington post made by/for hbo last year. So many things pertinent to our times. I had no idea that he had been an early personal friend of jack kennedy.

Barb, yes, Apollo as the sun god is the very personification of SUCCESS. He was worshipped in the ancient Greece and all around the world cultures today worship him just as much. DT is the epitome of success if you think of it as only PERSONAL success (remember DT and Melania descending the escalator stairs at Trump Tower when he announced – even then it may have been too late to stop him, he so personified the dream of the big man taking control!).

But the image totally ignores the impact of one person’s success at the expense of the rest of the people who do all the work and suffering. The opposite of success is failure (i.e. not Apollo’s best side). Everybody avoids failure, but that dark road lies ahead if the universe intends to keep its balance. It is the way that people earn their stripes as human beings. We can only hope that DT finds his path to failure asap because he sure needs to grow up!

This could be one of the things that will further trigger the dominoes to fall – a plea deal between Mueller & Cohen!

I want a party strong enough to take on the hard job of cleaning up the mess they’ll leave behind once they are gone,” Ms. Warren declared, all but volunteering for the task.


My FBI/Attorney pal at dinner tonight said he noticed DJT was gaining weight. He wondered if the man might die in office, or simply run out of steam for the job.

Thanks Sharon, the July 12 solar eclipse (20+ Cancer) opposite Pluto (20+ Capricorn) affects by trine Cowen’s natal Neptune + South Node (19+ Scorpio) opposite his North Node (19+ Taurus) which is conjunct the US natal Vesta (19+ Taurus).

Vesta is a workaholic and the Federal Judge going through all Cowen’s documents fits the description of US Vesta in Taurus (material) . .

. . which trines both the July 12 Eclipse Pluto and US natal Neptune in Virgo (detailed facts) which squares Trump’s Sun in Gemini opposite his natal (eclipsed) Moon in Sagittarius . .

. . which is just 2 degrees from the July 12 eclipse chart’s Vesta at 23+ Sagittarius rx . .

. . who was trine Eris [discord] at 24+ Aries who was/is square Cowen’s natal Jupiter at 24+ Cancer . . .

. . which conjuncts the US natal Mercury (data) at 24+ Cancer . .

. . which Trump’s natal Venus (25+ Cancer) and Saturn (23+ Cancer) also conjunct.

“Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive!” (transiting Arachne at 22+ Pisces is opposite US Neptune in Virgo and they form a grand cross with Trump’s Gemini Sun and Sagittarius Moon + his Nodes of Fate)

Well summarized Beowulfie, thank you.

While you were sleeping…Donald Trump is Cooked!
New hacking indictments focus questions about Trump campaign ties: http://www.msnbc.com/david-gura/watch/trump-lands-in-helsinki-ahead-of-putin-meeting-1277409859826
Mueller drops 12 more indictments, with more to come

It is stunning that it has come to this. Were it not for transiting Sun conjunct the US Mercury now, the nation would fall silent.

This eclipse Sun opposite Pluto exactly intersecting the US natal chart’s Chiron opposite Juno – who is all about inequality – marks the beginning of an awareness of what we don’t want to be aware of.

Trump is taking the USA down his own path of fear and madness. This is where we must accept our adherence to the past as being severely short sighted regarding the future.

I think Mueller has provided enough information to get us started on revamping the Constitution – shoring up those weaknesses that tie the hands of a government (of the People) to defend itself against the kind of swindle we are witnessing.

Fasten your sealtbelts right now, the turbulence ahead is like nothing we’ve experienced so far.


“Fasten your sealtbelts right now, the turbulence ahead is like nothing we’ve experienced so far.”

I liken that to putting on our walking shoes and marching! This is THE test of our own mettle as Americans and citizens of the world.

You absolutely pinged it, Barbk. This display of madness made me sick to my stomach. Wonder how the “brown shirt” congress responds? Hurrah Trump?
Putin pulled the greatest heist of the twentieth and twenty-first centuries.

Amen Fe. Thank you very much.

On August 25th, the Sun at 2+ Virgo trines Uranus at 2+ Taurus. Five and 1/2 hours later Sun trines Saturn at 2+ Capricorn. Mueller’s natal Jupiter (the Big Picture) is at 2+ Virgo (details in order).

The brand new US Solar Return chart has Ceres at 2+ Virgo trine Uranus at 2+ Taurus conjunct Pallas at 1+ Taurus opposite US natal chart’s Hades at 0+ Scorpio.

Hades symbolizes what is so dreadful we can’t bear to look at it. Well, now we have to look at it. Ceres is a nurturer, helping things grow and thrive. Pallas strategizes and Uranus breaks through walls, ceilings and outdated laws; you name it.

Transiting Mars is now conjunct the US natal chart South Node (6+ Aquarius); something that no longer serves this country must be let go of. Uranus and Saturn rule Aquarius and they are trine each other right now.

Transiting Mars also conjuncts US natal Pholus right now. Pholus symbolizes something seemingly small in nature (opening a bottle of wine for example) that will cause a big brouhaha (a war for example) when it is aspected.

Mars aspecting anything will energize whatever is symbolized by that thing, in this case, US Pholus and US South Node. Aquarius is the sign of the People. Marching is a good place to start.

Everyone who posts here, and is a registered voter, should pick up the phone, call their Senators and Congress people and demand that they find a camera and a mircophone and use strong language condemning what was on display at the news conference between Trump and his boss (Putin).

This news conference made me shake.

You’re not alone Karen, I’m sick to my stomach too. We must not let the insanity go any further without fighting back. I believe things will start popping any moment; Republicans and Trump will run for cover like the vermin they are.

atta girl Janet!

Has another domino fallen? Republicans (and, of course, Democrats) feels Trump has embarrassed and weakened the U.S. in his public pro-Putin, pro-Russia remarks and in his “missed opportunity” to condemn Russian interference. In fact, this entire stunt may have been concocted (my opinion) so Putin could deny interference in a way that Trump thought could help him, as well as help Russia look legitimate.


Sharon K:

Interesting CNN link. Will be fascinating as to which Republicans are silent over the Helsinki “give away” to Putin.

I think they are doing a balancing/juggling act and choosing really carefully about what to criticize him about (since he does butter their bread), and they feel safe with doing it about his treatment of Putin today and attitude towards Russia’s meddling in our election. Some are very critical (especially the ones like McCain, who has guts, and others who won’t be back), others have the attitude of a displeased parent chastizing their child. Putin’s expression in all of the photos I saw (I didn’t watch the news conference) is VERY telling. He is trying pretty hard to look comfortable and keep a neutral face but it looks like he is trying tooo hard. A lot is at stake here for him too and he is trying to carry it off. He is a ruthless man and jockying very hard to be stronger than the U.S. and have the clout to put us in our place.

…and he has the nerve to try to look neutral and truthful when he is anything but…. His expressions are really rather ridiculous, pursing his lips, that ultra guarded look in his beady, slitted eyes, etc.

It is being reported by WAPO that Maria Butina has been charged in US for acting as a Russian Federation agent. She is a guns right advocate, cozy with NRA, and, altho not mentioned in this article, she is alleged to be Putin’s “mysterious daughter.” Will see if i can find anything about this allegation from a reliable source. She appears to be cooperating with govt.

In watching CNN just now, Trump truly looks frightened and shell shocked at the press conference, speaking in a low, depressed voice (at least in the part I viewed). Then, just read this interview with Tony Schwartz, co-author of Art of the Deal who thinks Trump is definitely having a melt-down….but, please, No Pence!


I have found no reliable source stating that Maria Butina is putin’s daughter, so please disregard. Sorry. Should have looked before i posted.

“Warren Is Preparing for 2020…
So Are Biden, Booker, Harris and Sanders”.

Barbk, I do see Warren in our White House?
Perhpas as V.P. first…Can you see Warren’s White House Astrological Potential?

Jamie Dupree@jaimeedupree
Replying to @jamiedupree
“Because Putin arrived late, the 90 minute one-on-one meeting between Trump & Putin started almost an hour behind schedule at 7:15 am ET pic.twitter.com/9G3jelZmFq

5:14 AM – 16 Jul 2018”

Patty, I think Warren is too strident for many white male voters. Biden is probably the best bet in the 4 you mentioned. IMHO.

I so appreciate your take, Bailey! That’s what I love about Warren, she’s such a powerful Woman.
What do you think of a Sanders/Warren Ticket? Sanders would eventually lose strength..but Warren could easily then take over…full speed ahead!

“Bernie Sanders Is Winning Converts. But Primary Victories Remain Elusive”

I’m looking forward to our “Brilliant” Barbk’s Take on a Warren Presidency.

“Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of “high crimes & misdemeanors.” It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???”

@John O Brennan on Twitter

David Johnson saw someone with fair complexion winning the next presidency. Although he is not progressive and not my choice, I can see Jeff Flake possibly fitting that profile. Any thoughts?

By: Sharon K on July 16th, 2018 at 4:36 pm

“In watching CNN just now, Trump truly looks frightened and shell shocked at the press conference, speaking in a low, depressed voice … .”


tRump progressed anlunar East Point for Presser was at 292°52′. His progressed anlunar Mars/Saturn midpoint at 293°27′ was on it. It became exact 1 hour in to the presser.

Of the midpoint Mars/Saturn, Donald Bradley in his “Solar and Lunar Returns” says of the combination of the 2, “Mars-Saturn is also the “dirty linen” in one’s life, so beware of the trouble-maker who might make capital out of your darkest secrets.”

His secondary progressed Saturn was exactly on his progressed Desc.

Patty, who knows. 2020 is a long way off. Let’s focus on the 2018 mid-term elections and get as many Dems as possible in both the House and the Senate.

The vedic astrologer I quoted three weeks ago, who singled out the date of July 16th as the beginning of the worst time period for the Trump presidency turned out to be remarkably accurate. The aftermath of the Trump/Putin summit with Trump blatantly ignoring Russia’s meddling in the 2016 US presidential election has sent alarm bells throughout the world.

Here is that June 28th post………

President Donald Trump And Russian Leader Vladimir Putin To Meet July 16 In Helsinki

The July 16th meeting is astrologically significant from various angles. First, here’s a vedic astrologers take on the waxing Mars/South Node conjunction for July 16th. It was posted 6 days ago (before the date for the Trump-Putin summit was selected)…..



My own personal read on this is that tr. Mars conjunction to the US South Node AND transiting South Node, essentially the US Nodal Return (6 ’35 Aq-Leo) occurs every 19 years. It forms an exact sesquiquadrate/ semi-square to the US Mars and Russia’s natal Sun (21 Gemini). The last time the nodes were in this same position occurred in mid November 1999 roughly about the same time that Putin began to assume the reins of power over Russia.

Mid July 2018

I suspect Putin is going to serve Trump an ultimatum during this meeting and it won’t bode well for either country. It will be blackmail and extortion at the highest levels of government. It should be interesting to watch how all this unfolds.

Jerry, I agree this is the turn for the worst for the Treasonous President. It’s all downhill from here. Kavanaugh will not be confirmed, Democrats take back the House, impeachment proceedings begin in January. Also, I believe David Johnson who said the next Democratic speaker who takes over in 6 months won’t be Nancy Pelosi, and will become President after POTUS and Pence are both forced to resign by Senate Republicans in order to avoid impeachment. This may not save Trump from prison as there will be no one to pardon him. Even Gorsuch may be forced to resign because he was named by a treasonous President. It’s going to go that far.

Marjorie’s comments on the ‘meeting’

Patty, I think it’s possible she could run and win the Presidency, but like Bailey said, it’s too early to call right now. It could also be Meryl Streep in the White House since Meryl and Elizabeth were born on the same day.

I’m also thinking that Eric Holder could become US President and one of the reasons is that his natal Sun at 0+ Aquarius is where the 20 year cycle between Jupiter and Saturn will start in December, 2020 (and where the Sun is on Inauguration Day).

Elizabeth Warren and Meryl Streep have their natal Jupiters at 0+ Aquarius too (as does Barack Obama).

Because the feminine astrological symbols have become much more vigorous in the last few years, and the black US president barrier has been overcome, I don’t worry that these old standards (no woman, no black person, no crazy person as US president) hold much of a threat anymore.

The astrological advantage that Eric has is his Mars conjuncts the US natal Aquarius Moon, a connection which does seem to hold water in US presidential elections. Obama’s south node was conjunct and Trump’s Mars was opposite the US Moon. (This might just be a requirement for male candidates though!)

The astrological advantage Elizabeth (and Meryl) has is that her Sun-Uranus (0+ Cancer) conjunction sextiles her Saturn-Ceres (1-2 Virgo) conjunction that forms a Yod to her Jupiter (0+ Aquarius) suggesting adjustments will be natural to her. Elizabeth also has natal Mars (+ natal Mercury) conjunct US natal Uranus (8+ Gemini).

Eric’s Jupiter at 8+ Pisces conjuncts US natal Ceres (nurturer) that squares US natal Uranus. Also his Cancer Moon is likely conjunct the US natal Sun.

Elizabeth’s and Meryl’s natal Juno conjuncts the US natal Sun too. We’ll keep an eye on both (or all three).

FYI, the US Constitution Signing chart (Sept. 17, 1787, 11:27 AM, Philly) has Sun at 24+ Virgo opposite Nessus (abuse of power) at 24+ Pisces rx, T-squared by Jupiter at 25+ Gemini.

In May, June, August, 2016, and in March 2017, transiting Chiron was at 24+ Pisces.

Also, on September 16, 2016, there was a lunar eclipse at 24+ Pisces (conjunct Chiron 22+ Pisces rx) opposite Sun at 24+ Virgo and T-squared by Mars at 23+ Sagittarius. Jupiter at 1+ Libra was conjunct the US natal chart MC! And there is more.

This eclipse was less than two months before the Election and I bet it is related to the Russian Interference being investigated.

My charts say to me that Cohen clinches his deal on Sunday, July 8th, and Monday, July 9th, is a bad day at Black Rock for the Dumpster.

Washington Post, Friday, July 13

“Rosenstein said he briefed Trump earlier this week on the charges.”

tRump left early Tuesday morning, July 10, for Brussels so I am thinking he was informed on the 9th, the bad day at Black Rock.

By: Bob on July 5th, 2018 at 4:32 pm

“Putin will ask tRump to deliver something (probably removal of sanctions) before either the election or the swearing in of the new Congress. Probably the latter as it then will not have an effect on voters in the election.

If he does the backlash could explain the many afflicted right wing charts I see in December.”

If my chart for Putin is right his progressed Moon will conjunct his progressed Neptune Aug 8 in Longitude; Oct 22 in RA, conjunct progressed Saturn September 19 in Longitude; December 11 in RA, perhaps indicating orders to tRump are not filled or proof positive of conspiracy involving tRump and Russia comes to light. Better yet – both happen.

Perhaps today really was the turning point and it will only get worse for the orange sociopath.
I’m amazed that former R. congressman and conservative talk show host Joe Walsh (and other conservatives) are now beginning to see what has been obvious to many of us, that DJT is a traitor.

Excerpts from USA Today, not exactly a Progressive or Liberal news source:

After the news broadcast from Finland, former U.S. Rep. Joe Walsh tweeted that Trump “speaks more favorably of Putin. TRUMP WON’T STAND WITH HIS OWN COUNTRY. That’s it. That should be the final straw. It is for me.”

In a subsequent tweet, Walsh said: “Trump was a traitor today. I cannot & will not support a traitor. No decent American should.”

Frequent critics of the president also tossed around the word “treason.”

Former CIA Director John Brennan, who worked for both President Barack Obama and President George W. Bush, tweeted that Trump’s performance at the Putin news conference “rises to & exceeds the threshold of ‘high crimes & misdemeanors,'” the threshold for impeachment. “It was nothing short of treasonous,” Brennan added.


By: Bob on June 20th, 2018 at 12:39 am

From Nancy’s last blog – “This Uranus transit square the Inaugural Sun, which suggests unilateral and disruptive presidential action, will return from September 20 to October 18, 2018, and March 1 to March 23, 2019.”

The first period occurs when transit Saturn is within 1 degree of a conjunction with Sibly’s progressed Moon (September 13 through October 12). What ever tRump does may finally get the citizenry to decide to vote out many Republicans in the fast approaching midterm elections.

If that happens he will lose much of his support for the remainder of his term (if he gets to serve more than just another 13 months). He may hold office for those months but be de-fanged and be not much more than a figurehead as Republican pols fear a backlash taking them out in the next election if they align with him.

Stardust – I looked at ‘Maria Butina’ photo on rachaels show tonight and searched for photos of mariya putina online to see if there were facial similarities.
Although taken at a younger age there is a noticeable cleft chin, which you can make out even in a childhood photo taken with her sister. Very odd coincidence since not that many people have this kind of chin (apparently around 5%).
IMO the similarities are there with chin and squarish jaw, even though she is now older and has obvious colored hair. Hmmmmm the plot thickens.


“Such behavior by an American president is so perverse, so contrary to American interests and values, that it leads to only one conclusion: Donald Trump is either an asset of Russian intelligence or really enjoys playing one on TV.”

“There is overwhelming evidence that our president, for the first time in our history, is deliberately or through gross negligence or because of his own twisted personality engaged in treasonous behavior — behavior that violates his oath of office to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

“Trump vacated that oath on Monday, and Republicans can no longer run and hide from that fact. Every single Republican lawmaker will be — and should be — asked on the election trail: Are you with Trump and Putin or are you with the CIA, FBI and NSA?”

Thomas Friedman

Whatever your persuasion about HRC, she hit the mark squarely.

October 19th, 2016

CLINTON: Well, that’s because he’d rather have a puppet as president of the United States.
TRUMP: No puppet. No puppet.
CLINTON: And it’s pretty clear…
TRUMP: You’re the puppet!
CLINTON: It’s pretty clear you won’t admit…
TRUMP: No, you’re the puppet.
CLINTON: … that the Russians have engaged in cyberattacks against the United States of America, that you encouraged espionage against our people, that you are willing to spout the Putin line, sign up for his wish list, break up NATO, do whatever he wants to do, and that you continue to get help from him, because he has a very clear favorite in this race.
So I think that this is such an unprecedented situation. We’ve never had a foreign government trying to interfere in our election. We have 17 — 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military, who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyberattacks, come from the highest levels of the Kremlin and they are designed to influence our election. I find that deeply disturbing.
WALLACE: Secretary Clinton…
CLINTON: And I think it’s time you take a stand…
TRUMP: She has no idea whether it’s Russia, China, or anybody else.
CLINTON: I am not quoting myself.
TRUMP: She has no idea.
CLINTON: I am quoting 17…
TRUMP: Hillary, you have no idea.
CLINTON: … 17 intelligence — do you doubt 17 military and civilian…
TRUMP: And our country has no idea.
CLINTON: … agencies.
TRUMP: Yeah, I doubt it. I doubt it.
CLINTON: Well, he’d rather believe Vladimir Putin than the military and civilian intelligence professionals who are sworn to protect us. I find that just absolutely…
TRUMP: She doesn’t like Putin because Putin has outsmarted her at every step of the way.”


Well said. Thank You for posting the HRC/Trump exchange. Although as a long time Dem Socialist, I hold a profoundly different and partially antithetical political philosophy from HRC, it was obvious to me in 2016 she was qualified and DJT was not for the office of the presidency. Hopefully, others will now see what was obvious to us during the election season.

Will: You and I were probably among the few who believed and defended HRC against those on here who kept trashing her supporting Bernie Sanders.

It was incredible how that unfolded.

We both know who they were, one was Lorrie U. Sweet Lorrie, but has since disappeared. Her website gone too.
Can’t be sure if there were that many rabid Bernie fans, but now could very well been Russian trolls, or bots infiltrating every nook and crannie in cyberspace.

LG – I was incredibly saddened at the extent to which Lorrie was ‘taken in’ by all the anti Hillary nonsense stories. I considered her a friend prior to all that and miss her on this site.

LG and kiwi,

I so agree re: Lorrie and a few others who became rabid haters.


You are welcome.

Will, LG, Kiwi,
I’ve had extensive personal conversations through email way with Lorrie before 2016 and as well a few months ago. I continue receiving emails from her on a semi-regular basis.

With all due respect, I know for a fact that Lorrie despised HRC years before the 2016 election. She may or may not have been affected by propaganda coming out of Russia, but her opinions re: HRC were already substantially set in place.

Unfortunately, HRC was unfairly maligned and demonized for years by the far right before her electoral college loss. The Russians took advantage of and amplified that ongoing process. As brilliant, talented, experienced and qualified to be pres. as is HRC, she appears to have been particularly vulnerable to all that demonization and tended to demonize in return.

But then again, I’m not sure any of us (including myself) could have responded to all that malignant demonization any better. How to deal with such consistent propaganda is a real conundrum.

Unfortunately, the hate machines keep pumping out the garbage. It’s good for their ratings. Also unfortunately, millions continue to believe all the nonsense. Unless we find a way to cool down these purposefully manipulated passions we’ll continue to suffer the consequences, surely meaning other Dem, Liberal, Progressive, Green, Left-Libertarian, and Dem Socialists will be maligned and demonized with equally devastating virulence and bizarre electoral consequence.

Two thoughts:

(1) My guess is that although several R’s have condemned DJT’s behavior in Helsinki, I expect that after a few days they will return to “follow the quisling.”

(2) If Bob’s (and others) timetable is correct, it is quite possible that after Trump & Pence are ousted, Nancy Pelosi could become our first female president. This of course would enrage the far right, and Faux News would surely continue with the demonization game. Has anyone examined or analyzed N. Pelosi’s chart in relation to possible elevation to the presidency?

Will, Thank you so much for that excellent clip of HRC! Clinton would have been brilliant at our helm with a former Presidential Husband by her side…
Just imagine where we would be today!
Perhaps American Men won’t vote for a Woman as yet…but I hope & pray to see it in my lifetime.

Republicans Controllers Vicious thinking 10-steps ahead of us Always. They knew HRC planned to Run for President, so they created their Bengazi Attack for Two Long Years…all to destroy Hillary’s run any way they could!
I believe they even had an actress pretending to be HRC stumbling around, showing clips of a woman unable to climb steps, falling down, while saying: “Clinton is unfit and unable to carry out the Presidency”.

Well, here’s an example of one thing we should plan for: We could go out to every State we may live in and have a several Protests to inform the people:

“Now the Koch Brothers Are Killing Public Transit Projects Around the Country”
NASHVILLE, Tenn. — A team of political activists huddled at a Hardee’s one rainy Saturday, wolfing down a breakfast of biscuits and gravy. Then they descended on Antioch, a quiet Nashville suburb, armed with iPads full of voter data and a fiery script. (check out the Comments as well).

The End of All Illusions
Trump said nothing new in Helsinki—but his remarks clarified and distilled into a single frame his appalling disregard for an assault on America.

Trump blew it in Helsinki:

And thank you kind, Barbk…you bring us hope.
This time we must Fight Fire…With Fire!!

Hi Andre,

Referring to that psychic reading video you were mentioning, David Johnson alludes to some major event on or about August 9th involving Putin – perhaps some military aggression connected to Crimea (Ukraine?) that would send shock waves throughout the international community. David seems to feel Putin is determined to humiliate Trump and the US.

So, based on that information and looking at the August 11, 2018 solar eclipse (18 ’41 Leo) one notices it conjoins Trump’s progressed Moon at 17 ’42 Leo, Putin’s South Node 19 ’59 Leo in square to Putin’s natal Jupiter 19 ’45 Taurus and square to Ukraine’s natal Pluto 17 ’45 Scorpio. This eclipse mirrors the August 11, 1999 ‘eclipse of the century’ (18 ’21 Leo) in quincunx to transiting Pluto – 19 ’19 Capricorn. Will Russia invade Ukraine in mid August? According to the following article it’s a very real possibility…….

Russia To Look For Grounds For ‘Legal’ Invasion of Ukraine

February 27, 2018

After Putin’s re-election as president and the 2018 FIFA World Cup, Russia will attempt to provoke an incident in Donbas with mass killings of civilians “by the Kyiv junta.”
This can be used as a reason for the official use of Russian troops as allegedly “peacekeepers,” President of the Strategy XXI Center for Global Studies Mykhailo Honchar said in a comment to Ukrinform.
“I think that in the next few months, most likely after Putin’s re-election and the holding of the World Cup, there will be a threat of a negative scenario, a serious risk that Russia will try to create a new reason for invading Ukraine. This does not mean that they will try to shoot down a passenger plane again. No, it will not work any longer, but they will find an opinion for their scenario, saying that Russia had no choice but to deploy its ‘peacekeepers,'” he said.
Against this background, the expert said that Russian propaganda had repeatedly emphasized the fact that “people of Donbas” are under the threat of “genocide” if the “Kyiv junta” restores its authority throughout the entire territory of Donbas or if peacekeepers are deployed to the region according to the U.S.-Ukrainian proposal. “I think that Russians will provoke a scenario related to the mass destruction by the ‘Kyiv junta’ of the so-called ‘people of Donbas,’ possibly also OSCE observers. Then, taking into account the unwillingness of the UN, the Americans and Europe – Russia will state that it had no option but to deploy its contingent in order to prevent various negative scenarios, and Russians will already stay in Donbas as allegedly ‘peacekeepers,'” Honchar said.



PS One critical factor I forgot to mention…… Russia invaded the Crimea on February 28, 2014 the day Mercury stationed direct at 18 ’10 Aquarius in square to Ukraines natal Pluto (17 ’45 Scorpio). This Mercury station triggered the August 11th, 1999 solar eclipse.

Just noticed…… Ukraine leader Petro Peroshenko’s natal Neptune at 18 ’07 Scorpio in his 12th house (the house of ones undoing) squared by the August 11th eclipse.

Just noticed…… Ukraine president Petro Peroshenko’s natal Neptune at 18 ’07 Scorpio in his 12th house (the house of ones undoing will be squared by the August 11th eclipse.

Here’s his chart:


Sorry for the double post.

I wonder if Putin will do a cyber attack on our electrical grid or air travel system? Nancy talked about major events – maybe weather related. But maybe its a massive cyber attack on our infrastructure?

Will, thank you for posting the exchange between trump and Hillary, i remember it well, but rereading it now is absolutely chilling! Putin’s Puppet indeed…..

Also, Barb, i loved your phrase of old standards for POTUS, like no women, no blacks, no crazy people as president.

We have definitely got past the black barrier once, though i feel the vicious hatred on the right for Obama had a lot to do with racism . I think for now there might not be a black president any time soon.

Definitely with trump we have a crazy man as president, America seems to have crossed into an era of celebrity presidency, trump runs the country like one big reality show . The news cycles have become very entertaining and crazy, even whilst being disheartening and depressing to so many of us.

However, i tend to agree with Patty , i am not sure at all that most Americans, at least over a certain age, are ready for a female president, sad as it is to say. Many many white men are not and also many Republican women of a certain type, also a lot of the evangelicals i am guessing. Although there is a rise in female strength and power, which i think will continue, there is so much conditioning around gender and submissiveness to men etc. etc. that needs to be changed .

A woman like Warren would be a complete disaster IMHO, the right would go crazy. I also think running Bernie would be a complete disaster, both of them would be portrayed by the right as extreme communist crazies.

I think for the Dems to have any shot at taking back the WH, they need a very ‘appealing to both sides’ character, and one that does not come across as too Left. Right now , Biden might be the best bet in my opinion.

But who knows? It could even be Michael Avenatti!!!!

Regarding HRC v. Bernie: it’s clear that Russia supported Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein as well as Trump. That was to split the Democrats and slow their momentum as well as to sew confusion, unease and doubt. It likely worked to suppress Democratic votes overall.


Enjoyed your thoughts Diana, and while I agree with your points 100%, I feel pulled in the direction of getting behind the women seeking office, including a candidate for President in 2020. The feminine side of astro symbolism has leaped forward since Trump’s “win”; one of the hard-to-find positives coming (for now anyway) from that event.

Ever since the bra-burning days so many decades ago (before the Pill, legal abortion and even disposable diapers) the acceptance of women in traditionally men-only positions has gradually become the norm. However, until we get a competent woman as US President, the patriarchal dregs of society feel empowered to be ruthless and untoward.

Now that Trump has been allowed to take up residence in the White House, women have come out in droves to demonstrate for various causes, including the Me Too movement, as well as the border separation of families fiasco. More and more women, many who would not have dreamed of expressing themselves 30 years ago, seem ready to not only march but run for office now.

I understand the play-it-safe approach to picking a candidate, but I fear losing the (women’s) momentum by returning to the tried and true past with a candidate like Joe Biden. Not that he isn’t a dear, but will the young people be motivated by him? I think not.

After the Blue Wave moves into Congress next January, things will look very different from the way they look now. On January 21, 2019, just after midnight, there will be a total lunar eclipse at 0 Leo 51 opposite the Sun at 0 Aquarius 51 that could prove to be explosive with Women Power.

Venus will conjunct the Great Attractor and she will trine Mars who will be square Saturn. Venus will also be conjunct Jupiter, which leads me to believe a woman or several women newly elected to office will come out from the shadows and into the spotlight of the 2020 Presidential election.

No need to decide on a candidate right now. We are going through a transformation process and it is too chaotic to see what’s going to be needed (candidate-wise) a year or two from now. On the other hand Michael Avenatti might work too.

Michael Avenatti is a sharp, gutsy, and very honest guy but I can’t really see him as president. I also think someone too progressive could sow discord. I envision a JFK type (in a certain sense, not in all ways). Maybe a woman, black or Hispanic VP (Corey Booker, Juan Castro? I really like that guy), and after that, a woman president. The country is divided but don’t underestimate the power of the young voter also. The next few elections will bring a lot of people out.

I also want to state, for the record, that Lori has made major contributions and she was merely one of many who favored Bernie, did not like Hillary, and was rightly angry about the revelation that the DNC was behind Hillarye (although I sensed that this was meant by a 3rd part – Russians & Republicans – to divide the Dems). Either way, things are probably unfolding as they should be (right, Barb?).

I second Sharon K: Lorrie was one of many who favored Bernie yet contributed very informative and intelligent information. She is missed.

BarbK, Bob, Jerry:

Linda G keeps seeing Eric Swalwell as a leading Dem contender for the Presidency in 2020.

He’s from the Sacramento region in CA.

DOB: 11/16/80, Sac City, Iowa

Just an aside: I looked at Swalwell’s short wikipedia profile and he graduated from the U. of MD law school for which a childhood playmate of mine was Dean for many years (and our class valdectorian, who also happened to be African American — I graduated in 1968 in NJ from a very diverse and friendly city of about 60,000 people 12 miles outside of NYC). A few years ago, she became the Chancellor of Rutgers U., a very responsible position. We are so proud of her. Unfortunately, she did not make it to our 50th reunion on June 30. I had many reservations about going but was so glad that I did, and also got to spend a week with my closest friends and cousins who are still living there. I was also reminded of how lovely NJ is in the summer! I am now going to look at Swalwell’s chart but look forward to more advanced feedback from the astrologers here.

Eric Swalwell’s chart – he’ll be 38 on Nov. 16.


Unfortunately, Lorrie posted fiendishly-fabricated, destructive and hateful Russian anti-Clinton material with maniacal compulsivity. Her obsession with Sanders obfuscated her higher judgement and common sense. She commited herself to a dark path that was beneath her intelligence and metaphysical interests. I wish her well but I don’t miss her acrid rants and pseudo-facts.

Swalwell is also fair of hair and complexion, and this type of individual was noted by David Johnson as possibly being the next president.

Will, well I have great respect for yours and everyone’s opinions here, I do want to mention that Lori is an intuitive who picked up threads of truth in certain matters. I am in no position to know or judge the underlying truths that we never seem to find out and, although I tend to discount the most outlandish conspiracy theories, I always remain open. I am somewhat intuitive and felt that Hillary would have been a good president, and averted all of this damage, I agree with Eliseo that it would have probably led to bloodshed, that the negative mystique that surrounded Hillary would have been a big problem, and that, as Barb often intimates, things are happening the way they were meant to. Just my humble opinion.

“while” I have great respect…not, “well”

Nancy’s site is the only place I come to voice my fear that we should prepare for the worst, if at all possible.

I see no America first resurgence with this guy in office, a nobody who stole the
intended people’s choice — the real winner HRC

I wish she would take hold of our country.

The guy as president today says he ‘meant to say , I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be Russia behind election meddling”. This of course after the world’s condemnation he’s Putin’s poodle, etc.

He says the Muller investigation is a witch hunt
repeatedly and still does.

damn fool.


Re your upthread 2:31pm post, well said. Further, your post echoed how livid, and then despondent I became after I read some of her posts. There was a maniacal tone to many of her post.

I saw those lights dim…hahahaha! Spirits or spies?

Only fools will buy that n’t added to would, but the confirmation bias is strong for certain people.

Good grief! Have you heard Trump’s explanation as to what he did that confounded the Press? He said ” . .why it WOULD be Russia . .” but should have said “why it WOULDN’T be Russia” in the press conference with Putin.

It just keeps getting worse; White House staff trying to “fix” what Trump has said or done, day after day, covering his tracks when all the world has already witnessed his behavior.

This past Thursday’s solar eclipse in sensitive Cancer was opposite totally insensitive Pluto, and Mars was at it’s closest approach to Earth, making for a volatile atmosphere here on Earth for some time to come. It might be that going back to fix things that took place at an earlier time is not a good idea. Better to move on and let conflicting words fade rather then trying to correct them and keep the conflict going.

I wouldn’t put it past the spirit of Head Goat J Edgar Hoover for being a spiteful SOB with that light show bit.

The people flanking Dear (Orange) Leader at that table seemed quite startled.

Not for the first time do I wonder what reality Trump is experiencing that the rest of us arent, when he expects everyone to take these whoppers he’s peddling at face value:

notice how he avowed *all* of his remarks in Helsinki except that “wouldn’t vs would” bit.

That is the only part that he wanted to clarify!

C’mon, his aides were working all night to come up with that one change that Trump could actually wrap his mind around and express coherently — give them some credit LOL!

“Trump CAN NOT claim he misspoke.

Literally seconds after ‘misspeaking’ he stated:

“I have great confidence in my intel people, but I will tell you, President Putin is extremely strong and powerful in his denial today”

In that Context, He is NOT blaming Putin.


Brian Krassenstein on Twitter

Why was Trump allowed to meet with Putin when under investigation 4 collusion with Russia & then get a private meeting with Russia so they can collude some more?

One part of me thinks it might have been a set-up with a tape secretly placed by intel to record meeting and get the goods on Trump.

As intuitive as Lorrie is/was, I felt at the time she was so stuck in personal bias from the past and hatred of Hillary, that common sense could not prevail. I did wonder at the time whether she identified with some personal hurt and could not move beyond. Her comments just did not seem like the lorrie I had been ‘talking’ with previously thru personal emails. I may be wrong but that’s what I felt.

I really do hope that the dem supporters can get beyond their personal hobby horses this time and unite for the good of all, no matter if there are some aspects of the eventual candidate that are less than personally desirable. Please god, lets not devolve into a mud slingfest, nor fall for the divide and conquer meme again. Lets be proactive and focus on what we want, rather than just being negative anti.


Agreed on Lorrie. She was obsessive about Sanders. It was over the top. When she ran with the Guccifer 2.0 leaks it really started to concern me. That’s when I backed off from Starlight commenting to just lurking.

Hope she is ok. We’ve all been gas lighted and caught up in Neptunian fog since 2016. Time for smoke to clear.

more on trump from Marjorie

she also revisits a previous article on Bill Browder and issues surrounding the magnitsky act because putin mentioned it.

For some much needed laughter:

During the run up to the 2016 – I stopped posting as anytime I did – regarding Clinton – there were responses from Lori and also Alex – which at times were not pleasant so I mostly just read since then

Fiery woman, thanks so much. I used to sing G&S. Those were much better lyrics. We all need a laugh today.

By the way, some of you may not know or remember but when Nancy was considering shutting down SLN about 2 yrs ago, but, instead, took a hiatus and left the site open, it was Lori, Barb & I who tried hard to find a way to keep it going and interesting until Nancy came back. We felt she would want to and she is now going strong again. Only giving credit where credit is due.

Bailey I’m so profoundly in awe of anyone who can sing a patter song — whether it’s G & S or Rossini. (I once saw Samuel Ramey, the bass, out sing Marilyn Horne in Rossini’s L’Italiana in Algeria.)
You’re welcome, of course!

Hey Folks
I suggest we move on from revisiting past verbal conflicts with Lorrie. The present situation is painful enough without reliving the hurt, the pain, highs, lows, and ultimate and profound disappointment of 2016.

I find it interesting so many intellectuals dismissed the more “extreme” (but accurate) assessments of DJT’s mental health and/or hypotheses re: his cultivation as a Russian asset, but now are beginning to take those thoughts far more seriously. As a people, our judgement was surely impaired in Neptunian fog in the naive and arrogant belief that
“It Can’t Happen Here.” I feel the fact many are “waking up” is encouraging.

As a nation, the US has endured many “trials by fire” but I think perhaps the present one is very different in that it is deeply humiliating. We are a proud people. Blessed by our geography, resources, and the genius vision of our Founders, we have long believed we have a special destiny in which we maintain a light in the darkness, a beacon to all who love liberty, justice, and equality before the law. Like Lady Liberty, we’ve held that torch high, though we have at times faltered and failed in carrying the burden of our moral purpose.

I believe our brother in Quebec (Andre) and our sister (I think in Kentucky) (barb K) are correct in their interpretation of the coming Pluto and Uranus returns. Surely, through these humbling times our infamous arrogance will be polished, honed, and transformed into the wisdom, compassion, and vision necessary for our self transcendence and continuing journey. As I recall brother Andre stated it, (I’m paraphrasing) having overcome a tyrant within, we will be better able to overcome a greater tyrant without.

My expectation is the R’s will soon return to their addictive game of “follow the Quisling” under the delusion they can continue to use him to maintain power and to slake the greed, dollar lust, and control needs of their corporate masters. In the context of a public awakening to the outright treason of their leader, THIS WILL BE THEIR DOWNFALL! I suspect their lemming like behavior will take them over the cliff and into the dustbin of history.

We’re they remotely rational, they would begin impeachment proceedings immediately, convict 45, and install Pence (or if he is also implicated) Paul Ryan as president. They won’t do any of that of course. They have not the foresight, self understanding, or wisdom.

By 2030, (if not much, much earlier) the R’s will be gone and a humbled, wiser USA with a clearer vision will once again be reborn.


“Hey Folks
I suggest we move on from revisiting past verbal conflicts with Lorrie. The present situation is painful enough without reliving the hurt, the pain, highs, lows, and ultimate and profound disappointment of 2016.”

Eliseo, I don’t think its necessary to attempt to steer the narrative; we’re all intelligent adults here and I think each of us has a right to process issues that are important to us, painful or not.

Bravo Eliseo, “move on” sounds like a winner but I’d like to say that Lorrie’s feelings were hurt (as were alex’s and mine and others) by some of the mean remarks, made by our fellow responders here at SLN, regarding Bernie Sanders during the weeks before the July conventions in 2016.

She, being a prolific reader, retaliated with equally mean remarks written by others about Hillary that she found on other web sites. She would not have done so had she not been provoked into defending him. It’s been a teaching (Chiron) moment for all of us I hope. Be careful which words you repeat as they may hurt others and could come back to hurt you.


“She would not have done so had she not been provoked into defending him.”

I beg to differ with your excuses/rationalizations for Lorrie’s outrageous comments and posts. For someone so well-read as you believed she was (I believe most of us here are also very well-read) she utterly failed to responsibly vet Russian-hackers anti-HRC memes and factoids. When she was confronted by this, she doubled-down with libel, slander and vicious impunity. She became ridiculously defiant and posted blatant falsehoods until her candidate lost – and then she vanished on her own accord.

She’s a tough girl and I’m sure she survived just fine.

Not a scintilla of sympathy from me.
Take that, Chiron.

WOW! Are some at Fox news are turning against DJT?

“Fox News politics editor Chris Stirewalt said in an appearance on Tuesday that it is futile for GOP senators to try to push President Trump into having a more mainstream approach to NATO, stating at one point that Trump is likely to fly into this week’s summit like a “seagull” and “defecate all over everything.”

“He’s going to fly into Brussels like a seagull,” Stirewalt added. “He is going to defecate all over everything — squawk and fly away is what he’s going to do in Brussels.”


I expected no less from you will, thank you.

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