5th Nov, 2017

Discussion Thread

I am currently trying to keep my head above water in the soul-crushing reality that we live in. When I get inspired to write again, I will. Until then, keep up the discussion.



Understandable. It is soul-crushing.

Just recently there was a study on the ill-health Trump has effected. Not only are many soul sick, and have been for sometime, they’re also physically responding (high blood pressure being one) to this unnecessary stress. I have come to the conclusion that I am not part of the problem, or have not done enough. This blame game is heinous all on its own perhaps rooted in Christian myths of sin, and designed to keep is rooted in a helplessness that only another, holier entity can fill.

Please know that I’m asking and I suspect most on this board are calling on healing light for you, for alex, and for our very own souls.

Attorney Nick Akerman, a prosecutor in the Watergate investigations, told Politico Friday that Mueller could issue a gagging order to prevent the president interfering with the investigation.

He warned that the president had defamed a potential government witness who is likely to be called in a federal trial.

“This could be grounds for Mueller to obtain a gag order on Trump,” Akerman said. “It would be unprecedented, but he is interfering with the government’s right to a fair trial.”

In order for a gag order to be imposed on the president, Mueller would have to have the request signed off by a federal judge who agreed that the president’s public statements risked prejudicing the case. The federal judge overseeing the criminal trial of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and business partner Rick Gates, who were indicted Monday, said she is inclined to impose a gag order in the case.


Yes, Alex, but a gag order wouldn’t stop Trump from doing sneaky things behind the scenes or pull Mueller, if he is still able to do that, and I suspect he is.


But I can’t imagine anything infuriating Trump more than someone ordering him to be silent and having the power to enforce it.

Bless your heart Nancy, don’t let the bastards get you down. It IS discouraging and when we get down in spirit we get down in vitality too. I rely on what is NOT seen and heard to offset the bad news so as to keep from getting too despondent – that and long breaks from news sources!

One thing that gives me a sense of hope is Obama’s chart. His 12th house Saturn at 25+ Capricorn (behind the scenes) is part of a natal grand trine with his Mars and Vesta, as well as a Yod with his natal Pallas and Uranus. I have to believe he is fervently working – out of the spotlight – on taking down Trump et al.

Transiting Chiron in Pisces is conjunct Obama’s Pallas (the Planner/Strategist), sextile his Saturn and sextile his Vesta (focus, workaholic, what he invests in).

Transiting Chiron is and has been working with transiting Uranus for a long time (they maintain a semi-sextile for years!) so while trans. Uranus is square Obama’s Saturn trans. Chiron sextiles it. Trans. Uranus provides the incentive to “act” and trans. Chiron provides the wherewithal (wound) to get the attention needed to raise consciousness.

Transiting Uranus also trines Obama’s natal Uranus which is conjunct his natal North Node, both of which were strongly affected by the total solar eclipse (long in effect) in Leo, both in his 7th house of partners and open enemies.

Obama’s natal Mars is exactly conjunct the US Neptune in Virgo as we all remember, so all transiting aspects to US Neptune (like the sextile from trans. Jupiter in Feb.) affect his Mars. That natal Mars in his 7th house is near the cusp of his 8th house of shared resources (like friends in high places) as well as in that grand trine with natal Vesta in Taurus (where trans. Sedna is) and natal Saturn in Capricorn.

The US solar return chart (effective until July 4, 2018 or ther-about) has a Moon at 29+ Scorpio which is one degree from Obama’s MC. That Moon in the US solar return is, like Obama’s Saturn, part of both a grand trine with SR Chiron and SR Mercury, and a Yod with SR Uranus and SR Ceres.

To my mind, the universe has tapped Obama for more than just a 2-term US president and the 1st black US president in history books, he might also be the salvation of our nation. Trump has good reason to fear him I believe.

I have hope, too. There are a lot of people who are part of what Pumpkin Spice Despot fears as the “deep state,” who love our Constitution and despise the post-Soviet kakistocratic regime that the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is trying to impose, and they are working diligently behind the scenes to bring these Russian puppets and traitors to justice.

Wise decision to take a break and recharge Nancy. You take care of you because we can’t. But we can make appeals in your behalf.

You are dealing with 3 slow moving aspects that, while not all are exact, can drain you mentally and/or physically. Transiting Pluto trine natal Saturn, transiting Saturn square progressed Mars and transiting Neptune opposite progressed Saturn.

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I’ve always believed Obama would do more and better things as an ex president that he ever did as president. He and Michelle both. There still both so young, and there’s no way he’s going to go paint odd pictures like George Bush. He’s going to be like Jimmy Carter and do great things for the world, except I think he’ll do even more than Carter ever did. I think you’ll be a leader and a visionary for decades to come.

He has such great energy and is devoted to public service. His big it vantage over Carter is that he left office has a very popular and powerful president. I don’t think he’ll ever stop working to make America a better place.

Would love to believe there are things he can do to bring down Trump.


How can taking a break be anything but good. Anxiety, depression and despair are pandemic in my practice. Now is the time to practice mindfulness and meditation – w all have the ability to bring ourselves to our center – our sanctuary. I also advise turning off all news-channels/sources or at least limiting intake of the media. When we sit still and create space for peace within, we are generating peace without – its that simple.

We will all get through this, fellow Starlight News members; we will all get through this.

Amen. OM. Namaste.

Amen Will.

From Accuweather.com :

“Harsh cold to pour into midwestern US this week”

“Waves of harsh cold will plunge southward from Canada and chill the northern Plains and midwestern United States into the middle of the week.”

Note the seasonal words to chill the cockles of your hearts: harsh, cold, and plunge. Is tRump affecting mother nature?

Will, beware The Hawk.

Dear Nancy and Barb K.– It is difficult to obtain astrological analysis of Pence’s chart. The reason, I suppose, is that we do not know the hour of his birth. Can anything be inferred from the data gleaned from his birthday? I believe Marjorie Orr has written about Pence. Thank you, Prof. Marc Bertonasco

Teresa, I think one of Obama’s strengths is his foreign connections. His natal Neptune at 8+ Scorpio in his 9th house of foreign people and countries will get a conjunction from transiting Jupiter, exact on Nov. 19th, and both are within orb of trans. Neptune at 11+ Pisces. It will be a behind-the-scenes activity of course; he may be a Leo who can put on a show but he ain’t stupid.

Meantime transiting Uranus in Aries and Saturn in Sagittarius are forming a grand trine to his natal Uranus in Leo – tightest on Nov. 11th – a torrent of energy that is as strong as Niagra Falls. That energy is available to Trump too since his Mars is at 26+ Leo. However, Trump apparently doesn’t mind looking stupid.

It’s all in how you use that energy though. Leo 25-26 is in the US 9th house of foreign countries and networks and such. 25+ Sagittarius is in the US natal 1st house so trans. Saturn presents as “defining” or containment of expansion of “self” I would think.

With trans. Uranus at 25+ Aries in the US natal 4th house (associated with the country’s roots and history) it could mean a “breakthrough” of some traditional methods or beliefs in such a way that redefines the self (USA) and its relationships with foreign countries (and their leaders and citizens).

This could be some alchemy kind of change going on, what with Trump and Obama both contributing to the chemistry; Trump on full display and Obama not. It is the action though, forced on the world through these two agents, that will bring about a needed change for a world order that benefits the majority. If we can just believe it’s possible, but then that’s what a trans. Neptune trine a trans. Jupiter is for.
(Bkoehler aka Barbk)

Latest polls on Trump, going down, concluding with the comment below.

“Trump has succeeded in satisfying voters who elected him president but few others. Voters who supported Trump continue to be overwhelmingly supportive, with 91 percent approving of his performance, including 69 percent “strongly.” A still larger 95 percent of Clinton voters disapprove of him, with 88 percent who feel that way strongly. Among those who supported neither candidate — or did not vote — 24 percent approve of Trump while 68 percent disapprove.

The Post-ABC poll was conducted Oct. 29 to Nov. 1 among a random national sample of 1,005 adults reached on cell and landline phones with a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.


Dear Nancy,

I understand how you feel. I hope you and we all feel better soon.

Thank you to Will and Bkoehler for your inspiring words.

Nancy sending you good vibes from here in NYC.

This week Vedic Astrologer Ronald Berger is predicting that November will be “entertaining” and may lead to Trump’s family: https://youtu.be/j63TMkM870A

Many Thanks for allowing all of us to continue our various conversations on this blog. This space is an oasis for sensitive, spiritual, like minded folks as do congregate here.

I concur with Bob and others. It is wise to take a break and recharge. Under this mad regime we are all under great stress and it will surely continue for a good while. Speaking for myself, I am more dis-stressed than I recall ever having been ever before because of difficult personal circumstances as well as the state of our nation and world.

Please take good care of yourself. These are indeed “soul-crushing” times, and we all need to take care we are not permanently crushed by the Orange man or his minions.

BarbK & Teresa Hill

RE: “To my mind, the universe has tapped Obama for more than just a 2-term US president and the 1st black US president in history books,…”

“I’ve always believed Obama would do more and better things as an ex president that he ever did as president. He and Michelle both…”

My feeling as well..

I’ve been plagued all my life by precognitive visions and intuitions which came to pass pretty much as I had envisioned. One Example: In 1972 while visiting Houston I experienced a very powerful and complex 3 part vision of the Twin Towers going down sometime after the year 2000, (they had not yet been built) and a warning about the power of the “Karma Puppet,” a man connected with the Texas oil business who would become president who would do much harm, undo much good, and change things for the worse after the year 2000. It was pretty uncomfortable for me to watch all that unfold.

But there have also been positive visions. In 2008 I got a very strong, deep intuition that Mr. Obama’s greatest, most laudable, memorable work would not be what he did as president, but what he did after, that he was destined for something far more noble and greater than the presidency of the USA. Presently, I know of no such role which exists. The Secretary-General of the UN as an example hasn’t anything near the power or prestige of the American president. I don’t know what he could be elevated to!

Call me crazy, but that’s what I got in August of 2008. Whatever it is doesn’t exist yet. Who knows? Maybe it was a misinterpretation. Maybe I was wrong. I have no adequate epistemology with which to compare my visions to one another, or to judge their efficacy or accuracy, until after the fact. But the “feeling” I got at the time remains as strong today as it was in 2008.


Corruption is boring what’s to write about they do/did their worst but now by some miracle we are seeing/hearing some of it and it will be corrected by those who don’t want tyrant/king/authoritarian…. if you want a bit of fun watch the interview of Lawrencce O’Donnell with Pussy Riot….. she has a highly developed political mind…. more like her I say…. be well they are crunching some numbers in DC command control and the Orange will be reckconed with … it looks that way with me… of course the heads of state never pay full price but hope for scrub some bad guys out of there

Eliseo there’s an interesting bit here on Obama:

“We don’t often think of Obama’s 8-year presidency (2008-2016) as a Capricorn story, yet it was, in many ways. For those who supported Barack Obama in 2008, remember how “right” it felt when he won?—like he was the right candidate at the right time?

Well, Pluto had just entered Capricorn earlier that year, retrograding back out during the Election, but poised to re-enter the sign at the end of November. On Election Day 2008, Jupiter was in mid-Capricorn, trine Saturn in Virgo. In perfect resonance, Obama’s natal Saturn and Jupiter both conjoined Sibly Pluto, his Saturn from Capricorn, and his Jupiter from early Aquarius. The Cosmos was simply with him, and it didn’t hurt that he was born into the Pluto in Virgo generation—his 6°+ Pluto was, in fact, trine Election Day Pluto!”

From Pluto generations collide along D.C.’s high & low roads

Michael from NYC,
Very Interesting!

A midnight blitz of arrests ordered by the crown prince of Saudi Arabia over the weekend has ensnared dozens of its most influential figures, including 11 of his royal cousins, in what by Sunday appeared to be the most sweeping transformation in the kingdom’s governance for more than eight decades.

The arrests, ordered by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman without formal charges or any legal process, were presented as a crackdown on corruption. They caught both the kingdom’s richest investor, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, and the most potent remaining rival to the crown prince’s power: Prince Mutaib bin Abdullah, a favored son of the late King Abdullah. — http://www.nytimes.com/...


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Subir Grewal,
New York, NY

Authoritarian thuggery–especially the type fueled by toxic narcissism–is, unfortunately, one of Pluto’s darker expressions in fixed signs, especially Leo, and we’re seeing that tendency play out today with our Pluto in Leo president.

~ per diarymundaneastrologer

The Fixed signs express negatively in mundane astrology – lethality, rigidity, self absorbed self interests…….

the fixed sign as natural zodiac have many fine qualities….

my analysis tri-part model for mundane astrolgy interpretation is the following:





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Eliseo, Michael, Teresa . . Obama’s (and Elizabeth Warren’s) natal Jupiter at O+ Aquarius was a signal to me that he would play an enormous role in the next Saturn-Jupiter cycle that will begin in December, 2020, at their conjunction at 0+ Aquarius.

The chart for that new cycle has Uranus (+ Black Moon Lilith) at 6+ Taurus which will T-square the US natal nodes indicating a major decision point will loom large during the 20 year cycle. Obama’s natal Pluto at 6+ Virgo trines the Uranus in this cycle’s chart which I see as aiding a cultural shift in the US to be accomplished during this timeframe. Any thoughts?

Michael Wolfstar:

Thank you, everyone, for your kind and supportive words. I am truly weary these days from the non-stop toxicity emanating from Trumplandia. As of November 11, we come to the end of this year-long, very stressful time for the Toddler in Chief. There are many other very dark times, but this one is almost over and he is still standing. Probably part of the source of my malaise.


You have always provided a safe harbor for us, and the least we can do is provide one for you now. By all means, take time out to repair and refresh, but remember, it is always darkest before the sun comes out.

Any analysis of Pumpkin Spice Adolf’s transits on November 10-11, when he meets with his puppeteer Putin?

Karen F. , you would be right when you say, “Please know that I’m asking and I suspect most on this board are calling on healing light for you, for alex, and for our very own souls.” It is very important for people to stay in touch with their Souls — meditation, prayer, spiritual reading, webinars, music. The dark forces want us to be weary, depressed, that is how they win. We have to make sure also we are getting proper nutrition, exercise. May be massage and acupuncture treatments. The light will win out. It always does and especially in these times when so many more people are awake to the higher forces of their souls and the spiritual hierarchy. Be well, be blessed.


I hope you know how much we all appreciate your insights and the hope you bring to all of us during this terrible time for our country. Wish we could all help ease the toll it’s taking on you now. It’s so hard to accept that so many Americans voted for and still support this awful man. I still have trouble believe no he’s actually our president.

To everyone who also believes there are still great things to come from Obama’s —than you. You’ve given me hope. I have some intuitive gifts, usually only when very strong emotions are involved, and to me, it just felt logical that he would never stop working to help our country, have decades to do it, money, power, respect and his natural gift to organize and mobilize people.

We need him now more than ever.

“Humanity must be dedicated to rebuilding the shrine of man’s living, to reconstructing the form of humanity’s life, to reconstituting the new civilisation upon the foundations of the old and to the reorganising of the structures of world thought, world politics, plus the redistribution of the world’s resources in conformity to divine purpose. Then and only then will it be possible to carry the revelation further. All this is dependent upon the triumph of the Forces of Light and the consequent victory of those who stand for human freedom. If the forces of materialism and cruelty triumph and selfish and wicked national interests and ambitions prevail, the revelation would still come but later. The issue is not in the balance overall but there is no need to despair. The courage of those fighting for freedom remains unimpaired. The Hierarchy stands. Light is breaking in the world as the realities of the situation emerge more clearly.”


Dear Nancy, please take the time you need to replenish your energies. The daily news IS draining, especially when the media focuses on presenting the worst headlines. But when you look around to see good people like Mueller and his men of integrity working tirelessly to right the wrongs in this country; former presidents with their own organizations quietly readying the next generation of leaders who will be true public servants; and organizations like your own son’s Earth Justice doing their fine work; then you know this time of revelations and shedding light on all the corruption HAD to happen. We will get through this if we keep our lamps lit so we can see our own best way to help out. The contrast between Pres. Obama (who has never stopped working for us) and Trump couldn’t be more stark. People will have to choose between the forces in the world going forward in justice, brotherhood, and sharing; and those selfish and greedy people just looking out for themselves, and sowing seeds of hate and separativeness along the way. So don’t lose hope. Your knowledge and astrological/intuitive foresight is so valuable now. Please take your time and rest up and surely you’ll start riding that upward spiral soon. We know there are many more people of goodwill in this country than bad. If we can persevere, we can eventually recruit more to the side of good. Many thanks for all you have contributed to keeping our lamps lit.

Janet and others are right Nancy, you need a respite from the onslaught of media coverage of Trump & Co., broken only by tragedies created by madmen who, themselves, have overdosed on media in one form or another. One of the “lessons” Americans are dealing with now is symbolized by the US natal square between Mars and Neptune.

When Neptune was discovered it was, remarkably, conjunction Saturn, both at 25+ Aquarius and both of them were sextile Pluto at 25+ Aries. Right now transiting Uranus is at 25+ Aries too and it is trine transiting Saturn at 25+ Sagittarius. Think of that;
Saturn, back in 1846, was making it possible to actually see (discover, be aware of) Neptune.

Now transiting Saturn and transiting Uranus are further pushing us into the Neptune experience – in a form of madness where common sense doesn’t seem to exist in many places – by creating a grand trine with
Discovery Neptune and all of them in fire signs symbolizing inspiration and an awakening of consciousness.

We can’t know exactly where the Universe is going with this “lesson” but I’m pretty sure that people all over the world, not just the USA, are experiencing (Saturn) firsthand what an overdose of Neptune + Pluto can do to the human psyche.

With the easy access to film/video (thank you Uranus) it has become inescapably likely to OD on fantasy, that being the Neptune part of the equation. The Mars part – seated in the sign of Gemini (communicate) in the US chart – has exploded into the lives of most Americans in only a way that a progressed retrograde US Mars-conjunct Trump natal Jupiter can do. We have turned on one another.

In the Neptune discovery chart (Astrotheme) the sextile between Neptune + Saturn in Aquarius (2 degrees from US natal Moon) and Pluto in Aries (where trans. Uranus is now) each (Neptune, Saturn and Pluto) forms a quincunx (150 deg.) to the Mars in Neptune’s discovery chart.

That Mars at 25+ Virgo (just 3 deg. From US natal Neptune) becomes the apex point of a Yod meaning that this Mars is pressured (by the quincunxes) to adjust or shift in some way.

The presently transiting Chiron has been – and is still well within orb of being – opposite the Mars in Neptune’s chart. Transiting Chiron, now at 24+ Pisces retrograde turns the Yod in the Neptune discovery chart into a Boomerang pattern and trans. Chiron absorbs all the combined energy of that yod (Neptune, Saturn, Pluto, Mars) and determines how it will be distributed.

If Chiron symbolizes wounding, and Pisces symbolizes a lack of focus, it should be no surprise that we all are susceptible to a bout of madness (Neptune/Pisces) and/or debilation in some form or other.

But Neptune is only a part, albeit a big part of the lesson. At this point I sense we must all become “aware” of where we are now and what the possibilities are. The next stage is to determine where we want to go as a whole.

I imagine all here would agree that a breakthrough of some kind would help us get out of the quagmire we are in. Perhaps when transiting Uranus has stationed direct and returns to conjunct the Neptune chart’s Pluto (in February at the time of a lunar eclipse conjunct the US natal Moon) we will recognize it as a godsend and be grateful. If not, maybe in hindsight.

Above I said that trans. Uranus and Saturn were trine Discovery Neptune which is incorrect. They both sextile Discovery Neptune who is in an air sign.

Trans. Uranus and Saturn DO form a grand trine with the August solar eclipse (and Trump’s Mars and Obama’s Uranus) and that is a fire grand trine, symbolizing inspiration and an awakening of consciousness.

Sorry for my confusion. There will probably be more to come!

I haven’t read all of the posts yet, but in line with what Connimac just said about things coming out — I am wondering WHAT in the world is going on in Saudi Arabia. Also, people’s off-shore investments to avoid taxes is major news and includes Apple (which just found another haven after Ireland was revealed), the Queen of England, and even Bono from U2 who invested in a shopping mall in Lithuania (which is probably not illegal but it’s still in the news).

Also, there are major protests in Asia – at least here’s one that looks pretty damn big:


Nancy, take it easy, no rush, inspiration will come at the right time. Sending love & light to you.

Angellight, academyofwisdomteaching.eu – that you led us to though a face book post above, is beautiful! I look forward to perusing it more later today! Thank you!

Sharon, you are spot on. The Paradise Papers are exposing another arm of corruption, even though no such charges are currently apparent. They will be. These shenanigans have been accelerating for years. (I believe Barb pointed that out in one of her posts, and others.) I may be way off base, but I suggest that in addition to Mueller’s investigation and the above, the combination WILL BE the driver for long-awaited and welcomed change for peoples throughout the world who continue to labor as, well, slaves simply to enrich those who live by this specific creed of personal success. After all, what is cheating? Is it something only wronged spouses use as a wedge in divorce? I hardly think so.

Sharon K: You are welcome.

To Everyone— Are there any astral influences highly pertinent to tomorrow’s gubernatorial election in Virginia? Prof. Marc Bertonasco


You nailed that cold-front moving in precipitously; temps dropped dramatically within 4 hours on Sunday evening.

I do not know what “Beware the Hawk” means. Will you give me help with that?


Happy you derived some good from my earlier post.

The Hawk – commonly used in Chicago (The Windy City) to refer to the bitterly cold winter winds caused in large part by the unencumbered winds off of Lake Michigan.

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Secret State of North Korea | FRONTLINE Published on Mar 3, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1C2h0HozPY 00:53:41

The Facade


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRZROVMr900 1:23:20


Imagine doing this! Then give thanks you don’t have to.


Nancy: forza — coraggio — dear one.

I am maxed out too on all this and doesn’t appear it will stop anytime soon.
Short of a Christmas miracle, he plows on.

A rich guy Tom Steyer is on tv talking about needtoImpeach.com ads he’s paid, obviously has money to fund this.
IQ45 called for the Japanese to start to manufacture cars in the US for jobs; ” Is that possible to ask”? he said! Nevermind they’ve been doing it x30 yrs.

What do you call it? Embarrassing? reckless? crazy? Reason and DT can’t be mentioned in the same sentence.

I believe there is something the public has not been told yet of a behind the scenes solution. The Congress is silent, eerily. Maybe they are feeling it too.

Who knows?

Momentous anniversary in Russia – 100 years of very troubled history. A few links below, good reads.


The 2nd article has some pointed comments about DT that echo Bolshevism (excerpts). But, while things may look bad right now in the US, it’s not revolution yet – take heart!

“……Famously, Trump has also used the expression “enemy of the American people” on Twitter. Though it is unlikely that the president himself understood the historical context, some of the people around him certainly did. Bannon, Miller and several others in Trump’s immediate orbit know perfectly well that the delegitimization of political opponents as “un-American” and “elitist,” and of the media as “fake news,” is the first step in a more ambitious direction. If some of what these extremists say is to be taken seriously, their endgame — the destruction of the existing political order, possibly including the U.S. Constitution — is one that the Bolsheviks would have understood. The historian Ronald Radosh has quoted Bannon’s comparison of himself to the Bolshevik leader. “Lenin,” Bannon told Radosh, “wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.” At a conservative gathering in Washington in 2013, Bannon also called for a “virulently anti-establishment” and “insurgent” movement that will “hammer this city, both the progressive left and the institutional Republican Party.”…….”

“……Nor is it a coincidence that the most successful neo-Bolsheviks have all created their own “alternative media,” starting online and moving into the mainstream, specializing in disinformation, hate campaigns, racist jokes and organized trolling of opponents. (The old Bolsheviks used to call this propaganda, and they were brilliant at it.) Both the politicians and the “journalists” lie out of conviction, because they believe that ordinary morality does not apply to them. In a rotten world, truth can be sacrificed in the name of “the People,” or as a means of targeting “Enemies of the People.” In the struggle for power, anything is permitted…..etc.”

Scathing, another piece of trump’s *hit pile.


Unfortunately, Karen F, his s— never seems to stick to him. Thanks for sharing.

Nancy, I understand needing some time off. I think we can all take some heart from the election results in Virginia and New Jersey tonight. I feel that in general the people voted for decency tonight. Blessings to you – look forward to reading more from you when you come back.<3

Democrats win VA AND NJ governor races!

This is Interesting! Counterintuitive but interesting!

Trump’s North Korea Policy Earns Praise—From a Former North Korean Diplomat

“The unpredictability has worked to some extent,” says one of the country’s highest-profile defectors.


Am I recalling correctly that your astrological analysis has lead you to surmise DJT’s political demise might occur in January of 2020?

Hello hello. Why am i not hearing more tonight for you guys!!! Good news. Rebuke on Trumpism no? Diversity, a word Trump literally can’t pronounce is what people want in the US and they spoke tonight.

Oh, and the pure absurdity of Drumph saying the killings in texas had nothing to do with guns?

And what are thoughts on the speech Trump gave in Korea, come on lets talk everyone, Nancy we are here and we are united, for you, for us all, for the country, and for the planet!

Trump scared me with his speech, Diana! His delivery was statesmanlike (for him) but the provocation of Kim does not bode well!

In other news –

I just read some great tweets:

“If you’re a Democrat, get out and vote (today). If you’re a Republican, thoughts and prayers are sufficient!”

Or, this one-

“My thoughts and prayers go out to the Republicans who lost today. We are not going to do anything to stop it from happening again.”

Great stuff, huh?

We’re certainly hearing good news out of NJ and VA, but I haven’t heard much as to the other elections in other states.

DJT’s speech in S. Korea was indeed more statesmanlike, perhaps his best so far, but I did not hear him as any more or less bellicose toward Kim Jong Un and N. Korea than usual. He engaged in tough talk, but there were no fire and fury references. Nor did he call Kim Jong Un names like “RocketMan” or utter any other personal insults.

Plugging his golf course was pretty gauche, ridiculous beyond belief, but of course DJT IS a malignantly narcissistic salesman. That’s the alpha and omega of his personality. His other self-congratulatory statements were also pretty typical for him.

My interpretation of DJT’s provocative rhetoric toward N. Korea is evolving, though I’ve come to no final conclusion. See the article I mentioned above:

The message is counterintuitive but may be consistent with what we know of Kohlberg’s work on ethical maturity. Individuals at the lower levels do tend to misinterpret those at the higher levels, as in seeing reasonableness and/or compassion as weakness. I think Kim Jong Un, his father and grandfather before him have probably misinterpreted several of our presidents in a row. In various articles and from various sources I’m hearing the N. Koreans are moving more cautiously because they have never heard an Am. president talk like DJT; they evidently find him so atypical they don’t know what to make of him.

Very interesting, Eliseo. I guess it scared me because he is SO close to N. Korea at the moment & he seemed to be provoking Kim.

I find Kohlberg’s work very relevant, too. I’ll read the article tomorrow and also think about what you wrote.

Regarding more news on the elections, I found this post on Dem Underground & it’s VERY encouraging!

“A trans woman beat the guy who introduced the bathroom bill. A gun victim’s boyfriend beat a delegate with an “A” grade from the NRA. A civil rights lawyer who sued the police department just became the top prosecutor in Philadelphia.

Something’s happening here, folks.”

Also, 14 seats flipped to blue in the VA leg – the most that’s happened since 1899. And WA state also went blue!!

Maine just resoundingly became the first state to expand Medicaid by ballot initiative


Sharon K,
This appears to be the beginning of the roll back against Trumpism, but it may go back and forth for a few years.

I feel as though my brother’s prophecy in summer of 2016 that whomever won the presidential election would lead their party to permanent ruin will turn out to be true and accurate. It may be only a matter of a few years before the R. Party goes “out of business.”

As the Left takes over I think we’ll get many good things we’ve long wanted, Medicare for all, a reversal of Citizens United in the form of a constitutional amendment, and maybe even proportional representation and the end of gerrymandering.

After Trump, we will hopefully see a plethora of new laws regarding ethics. What WAS normal ethical convention and tradition before Trump will need to be codified into law.

In the wake of these successes I fear the Left will get very full of itself and go too far. After of which we will likely see the rise of a new, more conservative party, but it won’t be like today’s conservatism.

Digitization, automation, and robotics will take away millions of jobs within the next 15 years as our economy evolves into something possibly more Star Trek-ish. By that time the terms “liberal” and “conservative” will have entirely different meanings from what obtains today.

Conceptually, Finland and India are ahead of us looking at these probabilities squarely; therefore both nations are experimenting with universal basic income. A number of studies show a whopping majority of UBI recipients invest that money in further education and training, and/or start new businesses. UBI appears to me to be a very Pluto in Aquarius idea.

Here’s more. The first article notes that in the oil industry every time business goes down the companies let go of X number of workers…BUT.. When business picks up again they hire far fewer than they originally let go. The oil companies are now using automated oil rigs, called “Iron Roughnecks”, therefore needing fewer actual human beings to get the job done. Many other industries are doing likewise. Most of the grocery chains have plans to replace their checkers with machines within the next 5 years.



I have gathered some of my posts about January 13, 2020.

Good news about Tuesdays elections. Hopefully will scare Republican members of Congress into backing away from supporting tRump from now through the midterms and if midterms result in large losses for the GOP (loss of majority in the House) perhaps joining with Dems to get the country moving forward.

Too excited! Forgot to post my posts.

By: Bob on November 15th, 2016 at 10:57 pm

“Charts showing Donald’s and Donald Jr.’s charts engaged by the total solar eclipse in August 2017 and the Saturn and Pluto conjunction in January of 2020. Looks like a family affair.”


By: Bob on December 14th, 2016 at 11:42 am

“Of the 15 people seeking to be approved for cabinet positions 7 will receive direct hits from the same Jan 13, 2020 conjunction of the Sun, Saturn, and Pluto that hits Trump and his son if they are still in office (them and the Trumps) or targets of legal actions at that time. Still others will receive hard aspects from Pluto during 2019 or in 2020.

Progressing the Inauguration chart to noon Jan 13, 2020, using Q2, Mean Quotidian angles, the conjunction is on the MC the next day with inaugural Sun on the Zenith that day also.”

By: Bob on January 14th, 2017 at 9:48 am

“On the day Christopher Steele was born Uranus only traveled 2 minutes of arc so using a noon chart has his natal Uranus position within 1 minute of arc. His secondary progressed Uranus on January 13, 2020 will be at 161°00?. It will be receiving a maturing trine from transiting Jupiter at 280°24?. While trump, the GOP and Patry go low he goes high.”

By: Bob on January 7th, 2017 at 7:52 pm

“I think it is possible that trump may face impeachment proceedings twice with a whitewash the first time (wind up March 5th through March 10th 2018) resulting in such a strong public backlash in the midterm elections in 2018 – loss of many seats and control of the House by the GOP with public announcement of intentions for the same treatment of rethugs in the Senate and WH in 2020. Then successfully impeached in Jan 2020 in an effort to save the WH and Senate seats in the coming election.

The 2018 House solar return (precessed) has the Aug 21 SE (which puts trump’s troubles into high gear) conjunct it’s Asc.”

By: Bob on January 20th, 2017 at 4:12 pm

“I am hoping that trump (or Republican policies passed) will have produced such blow-back by voters that he resigns rather than be impeached or the GOP, fearing the loss of the presidency and Congress later in the year side with Democrats in order to impeach him.

This would be in January 2020, possibly on the 13th when the Sun, Saturn, and Pluto oppose his natal Saturn. . . . Another chart I have indicates the date could be January 16th.”

By: Bob on February 8th, 2017 at 3:59 pm

“Eliseo, any of the links that show the transiting Sun, Saturn, and Pluto in opposition to trump’s natal Saturn on January 13, 2020 are a strong argument for extreme loss by trump on that day. The transit chart could be timed 14 hours later and still be in January 13.

There are other dates that are stressful for trump before then but none have the strength of January 13, 2020 (the Sun and Pluto combined with Saturn), in my opinion.”

By: Bob on February 8th, 2017 at 5:20 pm

“trump natal progressed to January 13, 2020, winds up with the USA total solar eclipse of Aug 21, 2017, on it’s IC and eclipse Saturn on the Desc.”


By: Bob on April 9th, 2017 at 2:16 pm

“I call the chart for George Washington’s inauguration “The Presidency”. On January 13, 2020 it’s progressed Sun/Pluto midpoint will be at 294°14? conjoined by transiting Sun, Saturn, and Pluto, trump’s progressed inauguration MC, Nixon’s White House IC, the Watergate arrest’s Zenith, opposite Watergate arrest’s Mars and trump’s natal Saturn, and with transit Mars on the chart’s progressed Asc. Actually a few of these are more exact on January 12th or 14th. I chose the 13th because that is the day transit Sun will be with transit Saturn and Pluto and not 1 degree away.

Charts related to the presidency from 1789, 1946, 1972, and 2017 coming to or originally involving a common point at 294 degrees on January 13th, 2020, with three transiting bodies held by that same degree on that day. It might mean something related to the presidency term that began on January 20, 2017.”

By: Bob on April 10th, 2017 at 1:27 am

Richard M Nixon resigns as President of the US 9 Aug 1974 11:35 am EDT White House, DC 38n53’51” 77w02’11” 15:35 GMT

Source: Time noted by Henry Kissenger on letter.


“The President’s resignation letter was handed to Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in his small White House office by Alexander Haig at this time, which Kissinger noted on the document.”

The MC of that chart is 114°27? (IC is at 294°27?). Add that to the list of points transited by the Sun (294°42?), Saturn (294°42), and Pluto (294°45?) on January 13, 2020.”

Too excited! Forgot to post my posts.

That post is in moderation. If it doesn’t show up I will break it into 2 posts.

Starlight and Starlight Group, are we feeling a lot better today. There is much to be hopeful for and to work for.

Eliseo, you are so correct when you state, “As the Left takes over I think we’ll get many good things we’ve long wanted, Medicare for all, a reversal of Citizens United in the form of a constitutional amendment, and maybe even proportional representation and the end of gerrymandering.”

Sharon K: Great tweets!

Ralfee Finn today:


Please take note of Eliseo’s other good points –

1) One point was about the Left becoming too full of itself and going too far. After the Dems won all 3 branches of government in 2008, they jumped into universal health care and came up with a so-so plan that was subject to market forces and was highly criticized. I think it would have been better if, in that Recession era, they had come up with a jobs & infrastructure bill first, which may have resulted in more satisfied people. Maybe then they wouldn’t have lost the mid-terms and they could have tackled health care second. There is also theory that Hillary lost because she didn’t connect enough with the working/middle classes although she addressed them in her economic policy speeches.

Progressives want to move left too fast. Bernie was the first one who could talk about doing it and did capture many more supporters than ever before BUT had he won, in reality a) there would have been even more gridlock b) he would be alienating a large, entrenched conservative sector of the country who fear progressive policies and see then as too socialistic. We have to move at the right pace….move a little too fast and we lose elections.

2) Eliseo’s other point on automating most jobs frightens me a bit but I do see that happening. There will be too many disgruntled, unemployed people roaming the country. What will they do? If we have a reduced population that is one thing, but at this rate, there will be chaos. Universal basic income and/or welfare will become more and more necessary…but people are happier when they are busy. Work can be good therapy. I don’t perceive a good solution.

Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.

I would attribute the (obvious) election results primarily to the trine between transiting Saturn and Uranus, although it’s not exact until early Saturday. What WAS exact yesterday was trans Jupiter square the US nodes indicating a decision as to which direction the US is to follow, north or south node.

Transiting Venus (values) was conjunct the US natal Hades (what is unbearable to look at) and that would have an effect on the electorate – Trump is unbearable.

What is no doubt at the root of the mood of the electorate though is transiting Pluto at 17+ Capricorn opposite the degree where it was discovered, 17+ Cancer. The chart for that discovery had Uranus at 9+ Aries (opposite the now trans. Mars/action at 9+ Libra) square Saturn at 8+ Capricorn, an aspect that creates a grand cross (4 squares, 2 oppositions) to Trump’s natal Mercury at 8+ Cancer. Trans. Pluto also squares Trump’s natal Jupiter at 17+ Libra turning it and its discovery degree into a T-square. Challenging!!

Transiting Pluto is within spitting distance from the Neptune-Uranus cycle start at 18+ Capricorn, a cycle that’s been going on since 1993. It is also still in a trine to the Uranus-Pluto cycle start degree, 17+ Virgo, in 1965. These long cycles are always affecting us but especially when the transiting outer planets energize them, like right now.

Whatever else it seems at the moment, yesterday’s US elections are a part of a grand Universal scheme – the intention of which is to elevate the consciousness of humanity more quickly than would otherwise be acceptable to Saturn. Hence the presence of transiting Saturn to Uranus, the two rulers of Aquarius whose Age it is that’s arriving now.

I have felt so discouraged, disillusion and defeated for so many months watching the Democrats loose special election after special election this year. Just when all hope feels lost the absolute unexpected happens. It’s not just that the Democrats dominated last night or the obvious backlash of against Trump in the Gillespie loss. it’s the people behind all the wins that tell a bigger story. The transgender woman that beat out the 25 year incumbent that was the author of the hideous bathroom bill. It’s the transgender woman of color that won her election to the city council in Minnesota. It’s the openly lesbian mayor of Seattle. It’s the Asian-American man and the Indian-American woman who won for school board in Edison against a horrible racist campaign against them. It’s the Sikh who is the new mayor of Hoboken,NJ. It’s so much more than just a two party system expected pendulum switch a after a national election. It’s a sign of what the majority of the country not only supports but it willing to fight for. Stand out in the rain for hours for and campaign hard for. It feels like a shimmer of light that we can finally cling to, to point to and to take a collective sigh of relief that finally something feels normal. Something feels loving and kind and hopeful.


“Wow. On Fox News website, not one story about yesterday’s election. (Plenty about 2016 election though.) Only mention: A tiny clip on left side list. How can reporters work there anymore.” from @kurteichenwald

“Voters today chose
-2 new Democratic governors
-2 black lieutenant governors
-2 transgender officials
-A Black Lives Matter lawyer as DA in Philly
-A Sikh mayor in Hoboken
-A socialist in Virginia
-To oust GOP mayor in Atlantic City
-And to expand Medicaid in Maine”


The Oxford Astrologer:

“Already we see this at work. For taxes, look at the Paradise Papers; for sex & power: Weinstein; for power & sex: Parliament. Scorpio keeps secrets. Jupiter exposes them. Capricorn maintains structures. Pluto destroys.”


By: Bob on November 15th, 2016 at 10:57 pm

“Charts showing Donald’s and Donald Jr.’s charts engaged by the total solar eclipse in August 2017 and the Saturn and Pluto conjunction in January of 2020. Looks like a family affair.”


By: Bob on December 14th, 2016 at 11:42 am

“Of the 15 people seeking to be approved for cabinet positions 7 will receive direct hits from the same Jan 13, 2020 conjunction of the Sun, Saturn, and Pluto that hits Trump and his son if they are still in office (them and the Trumps) or targets of legal actions at that time. Still others will receive hard aspects from Pluto during 2019 or in 2020.

Progressing the Inauguration chart to noon Jan 13, 2020, using Q2, Mean Quotidian angles, the conjunction is on the MC the next day with inaugural Sun on the Zenith that day also.”

By: Bob on January 14th, 2017 at 9:48 am

“On the day Christopher Steele was born Uranus only traveled 2 minutes of arc so using a noon chart has his natal Uranus position within 1 minute of arc. His secondary progressed Uranus on January 13, 2020 will be at 161°00?. It will be receiving a maturing trine from transiting Jupiter at 280°24?. While trump, the GOP and Patry go low he goes high.”

By: Bob on January 7th, 2017 at 7:52 pm

“I think it is possible that trump may face impeachment proceedings twice with a whitewash the first time (wind up March 5th through March 10th 2018) resulting in such a strong public backlash in the midterm elections in 2018 – loss of many seats and control of the House by the GOP with public announcement of intentions for the same treatment of rethugs in the Senate and WH in 2020. Then successfully impeached in Jan 2020 in an effort to save the WH and Senate seats in the coming election.

The 2018 House solar return (precessed) has the Aug 21 SE (which puts trump’s troubles into high gear) conjunct it’s Asc.”

By: Bob on January 20th, 2017 at 4:12 pm

“I am hoping that trump (or Republican policies passed) will have produced such blow-back by voters that he resigns rather than be impeached or the GOP, fearing the loss of the presidency and Congress later in the year side with Democrats in order to impeach him.

This would be in January 2020, possibly on the 13th when the Sun, Saturn, and Pluto oppose his natal Saturn. . . . Another chart I have indicates the date could be January 16th.”

By: Bob on February 8th, 2017 at 3:59 pm

“Eliseo, any of the links that show the transiting Sun, Saturn, and Pluto in opposition to trump’s natal Saturn on January 13, 2020 are a strong argument for extreme loss by trump on that day. The transit chart could be timed 14 hours later and still be in January 13.

There are other dates that are stressful for trump before then but none have the strength of January 13, 2020 (the Sun and Pluto combined with Saturn), in my opinion.”

By: Bob on February 8th, 2017 at 5:20 pm

“trump natal progressed to January 13, 2020, winds up with the USA total solar eclipse of Aug 21, 2017, on it’s IC and eclipse Saturn on the Desc.”


By: Bob on April 9th, 2017 at 2:16 pm

“I call the chart for George Washington’s inauguration “The Presidency”. On January 13, 2020 it’s progressed Sun/Pluto midpoint will be at 294°14? conjoined by transiting Sun, Saturn, and Pluto, trump’s progressed inauguration MC, Nixon’s White House IC, the Watergate arrest’s Zenith, opposite Watergate arrest’s Mars and trump’s natal Saturn, and with transit Mars on the chart’s progressed Asc. Actually a few of these are more exact on January 12th or 14th. I chose the 13th because that is the day transit Sun will be with transit Saturn and Pluto and not 1 degree away.

Charts related to the presidency from 1789, 1946, 1972, and 2017 coming to or originally involving a common point at 294 degrees on January 13th, 2020, with three transiting bodies held by that same degree on that day. It might mean something related to the presidency term that began on January 20, 2017.”

By: Bob on April 10th, 2017 at 1:27 am

Richard M Nixon resigns as President of the US 9 Aug 1974 11:35 am EDT White House, DC 38n53’51” 77w02’11” 15:35 GMT

Source: Time noted by Henry Kissenger on letter.


“The President’s resignation letter was handed to Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in his small White House office by Alexander Haig at this time, which Kissinger noted on the document.”

The MC of that chart is 114°27? (IC is at 294°27?). Add that to the list of points transited by the Sun (294°42?), Saturn (294°42), and Pluto (294°45?) on January 13, 2020.”

Bob, that was exactly what I emailed a friend last night….”yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus”. What a wonderful feeling.

BarbK, thanks for your uplifting analysis.

Remarkable Bob, I’m convinced by your body of research about the importance of the astrology in mid January, 2020.

As we watch the train wreck develop; the daily dose of the Trumpian onslaught, I can’t help but think of how we, as individuals have watched a friend or loved one going through the stages of some deadly disease or trauma. We know how it will all end. Maybe not the exact date but we know death is inevitable. We prepare ourselves.

The conjunction of transiting Sun, Saturn, Pluto opposite Trump’s natal Saturn (and US natal Mercury) on January 11, 2020, or thereabouts, is convincing enough on its own for the train to come to a screeching halt. Your additional research is convincingly compelling.

Looking at the ephemeris for January 2020, additional points in the astrological patterns give support to your conclusions. For example, the chart for the eclipsed Moon on the 10th (itself and the opposing Sun are in a grand cross with the US natal opposition between Chiron and Juno) has the transiting Venus conjunct the US natal Moon-Pallas in Aquarius and opposite Trump’s Mars-Ascendant.

Transiting Jupiter will be conjunct the transiting south node (release) in Capricorn and trans. Neptune will square Trump’s natal Uranus. Chiron will conjunction the US natal IC.

So grateful for your perseverance and gifts. I can’t help feeling that Mueller’s perserverence and gifts are the track that this train wreck is traveling.

Bailey, I appreciate your kind words.

Very Impressive Work!
You should be teaching astrology if you are not already doing so, especially how to do astrological research. I’d love to be one of your pupils.

Strength and healing energies would be most kindly appreciated in my direction, if you can…

My mom took a bad fall at her house and has been in the hospital since Mon night. That was actually a blessing in disguise, because they discovered blood clots we’d otherwise not know about. However, they can’t get these clots dissolved, and they’re concerned her bruises aren’t healing right (to me, that means they still angry red and purple). Obviously, they’re not releasing her and she now feels good enough to be antsy, restless, and crabby.

At the same time this happened, we took her cat to the vet’s. He fell 2 days before Mom and broke his leg (badly, according to the vet). Since he’s 17 and not recommended for anesthesia, the vet wanted to put him down. I reacted viscerally at this, and not just because Mom had just been admitted to the hospital! Mac may never walk “right” again, but there are a LOT of 3-legged cats doing just fine in their old age. He’s moving between two rooms on a regular basis, is eating everything we give him, and all bodily functions are working well. Why in the world would I want to give up on him when he’s telling the world he’s not ready to give up!

We waited until Mom was lucid and told her about Mac, and I told her my “game plan” for him. She is so grateful, but of course wants to be back with him. I really wish I’d gone into vet science back in the day, instead of psychology. I mesh with animals so much better than people. But it just galls me that people want to get rid of animals when they get old and have problems. I figure Mac will let us know when he wants to cross the Rainbow Bridge!

Anyway, I’m trying to keep up with all this while fighting a 3-day lupus flare with migraine. Thankfully, hubby, even with all his health issues, has stepped up and filled in the gaps for me. For all of us here, your thoughts of strength and healing would be so appreciated – especially for Mac and Mom. She’s had him since he was a kitten – in Jan it’ll be 18 years.

Oh, slightkc, all heartfelt wishes and blessings for your mom and Mac’s healing and strength and for you and your husband, too. Sending you guys love & light and visualizing all of you healthy and strong, surrounded by intensely vivid and glowing white light!

Done and done kc; for your mother, Mac, your husband, and you.

Thank you for the kind words Eliseo.

Too many achievements or offers to list here but some: interest of a Hollywood talent scout, offer of a radio show, 3 men who each saw me work for only 1 day each trying to get a company to hire me in a city that had the highest unemployment in the U.S. at the time, helping 3 young women coming to thank me for being an influence to help them leave lives of drug addiction and prostitution.

I never graduated from high school even though I had more credits than required because I threw the term paper required to get a grade away because I was angry with the teacher (I was responding to my parents divorce that had resulted in my siblings going to an orphanage and myself to a foster home – perhaps misplaced anger?).

Being a self taught astrologer from a $1.95 paperback I never thought that I had the creds to teach anybody else. Once I made my discovery I was too busy working charts to even think of such an endeavor.

I was blessed with gifts that allowed me to quadruple the output of the most expensive, unique machine of a fortune 500 company that they had run for 5 years (by the same operators since it’s installation who were taught how to run it by the engineers of the company that had built it). My improvements increased it’s output double what those engineers had rated it at, reduced the need to change tooling by 2/3s and dropped rework so dramatically that on the third day of running it with my changes I had a group of engineers surrounding my work area because what I was doing was “impossible”.

When I turned in my 2 week notice to leave the plant superintendent called a meeting to see what they might do to keep me and when I stayed with my decision he told me if I ever needed a job all I had to do was walk through the door. But I never go back.

I have succeeded at everything I ever tried but after each success moved on to something new. I am a simple, curious person, who loves people. Like everyone, I can get angry. It does not happen often and does not last. I have helped others who have hurt me, after the hurt, when they asked me to or when I found them in need on my own. Anger and hate are poisons.

I was blessed with good health for more than 70 years but have joined most others in recent years and do not have the stamina or maybe it is just a lack of desire to do more than I do now.

Where did all of this come from? I don’t usually reveal so much. Have never revealed not graduating before.

slightkc, adding my healing thoughts to you and your family. No wonder your Lupus flared!

Bob, you had me. I’m in admiration of both your knowledge and your life story — which, I suspect, has far more layers than you could express in such a short synopsis. I’m certain this whole Starlight community has stories to share. Any rate, thank you.

Did anyone catch Rachel last night, the CIA director’s probable intent to “do harm” to Mueller’s investigation, and withhold information critical to this investigation? All told, Trump continues his push for monarchy with he the un-benevolent ruler. His admiration for the world’s monarchs (and attendant cruelty) is a dead giveaway. Yet, given Bob’s words, Eliseo, and others’ observations we the people will have the last word about that.

This is a more nuanced report about CIA director.


Sending positive and healing thoughts to you, your Mom, and Mac.

Thank you for sharing your breath and wealth of knowledge, and your story. It is very much appreciated.

slightkc: Sending healing prayers for your mom.

I would like to join in with sending love and light and blessings to slightkc to you, hubby, mum and cat.
Love diana

slightkc: light and love to your mom and Mac !

Bob, May I be one of your students, also? Love and strong white light to you all!! So glad you are all here. xo

slight kc: I hope your Mom and Mac (and you) are all doing OK. I read this blog a lot and rarely post, but the story of your Mom’s fall and the subsequent finding of blood clots made me want to write to you. Your describing the trauma as perhaps a “blessing in disguise” happens more than you would think. I work in trauma and we often see what are described as “incidental findings” in working up the traumatic injury. Though the patient is understandably shocked by more bad news on top of the trauma (I always think of it as a Uranus sucker-punch), it is often possible to start treatment much earlier than would have been possible if the disease had progressed to where the patient sought treatment for obvious symptoms.

That said, another thing that has surprised me as we treat an increasing number of aging boomers and other more advanced elders, is how fragile the skin becomes, and what would in a younger person be a black and blue patch that turns ugly and fades, becomes a nasty fluid filled hematoma that has to be drained, and is slow and hard to heal. Many of the people this happens to are also on anticoagulation. So it is good that the docs are watching her bruises carefully, though I know she must long to be with Mac.

Transiting Pluto will be charging up the cycle between Neptune and Uranus as he moves closer to the degrees where that cycle began, 18+ and 19+ of Capricorn. In all 3 of the conjunctions between Uranus and Neptune in 1993, Pluto was in a sextile to them with an orb of 4 to 6 degrees. Oddly enough when – in the mid 1960’s – Uranus and Pluto were conjunct and beginning their cycle, it was Neptune that was sextile them all 3 times. They operate as a team, these 3 outer planets, and their mission seems to center on drastically raising the human consciousness level.

These two cycles, (1) Uranus with Neptune and (2) Uranus with Pluto, both began in earth signs that deal with the material level of life and the two cycles were initiated in degrees that were trine (ease and cooperation) with each other, one in Virgo and the other in Capricorn.

It is no stretch then to imagine that these two cycles, starting about 3 decades apart – the approximate length it takes Saturn to rotate around the Sun – had the 3rd outer planet, the one that wasn’t part of a conjunction, making an aspect to transiting Saturn. This is divine planning at its best.

In the ’60’s when Uranus and Pluto were conjunct in Virgo, transiting Neptune was trine transiting Saturn, and in the ’90’s when Uranus and Neptune were conjunct, transiting Pluto was square transiting Saturn. What are the odds of that happening I wonder?

In the ’60’s When Saturn was in Pisces (trine Neptune in Scorpio) he was conjunct Chiron who has returned now to that sign, having a 50 year cycle to travel around the Sun. This too is a factor when considering how the outer planets are affecting the consciousness of humanity.

In the ’90’s when Saturn was in Aquarius (and square Pluto in Scorpio) he was opposite Chiron in Leo. This remarkable synchronicity; the 3 outer planets aspecting each other by conjunction or sextile, while the outer planet NOT in the conjunction aspected Saturn (either by trine or square) who himself was either conjunct or opposite Chiron, was nothing short of a world-wide message and plan for transformation.

If we can absorb this much of the now active astrology, we can grasp how our present (worldly and in the USA) situation is part of a much larger project than what we are experiencing on an individual level. Look around at the profound changes taking place. Often it looks totally chaotic, yes, but in fact it is just in transition – to a place of neutrality where new creative ideas can blossom.

It is natural to be fearful of change; all of us to some extent find it comforting when routines are established, but those of us alive now are here to manifest the transition from the present level of understanding (think old patriarchal patterns) to a new level of comprehension (think unity, diversity, equality) and transiting Pluto, for his part, is about to make his 3rd and final crossing over the place where Uranus and Neptune were conjunction 24 years ago.

Pluto has passed the opposition point to where he was discovered, a full moon kind of aspect that affords a view of how much has been accomplished since its “birth” in consciousness. He, Pluto, and Chiron (who is now trine the degree of Scorpio where Pluto was at the time of the Uranus-Neptune conjunction, and where transiting Mercury was just days ago, and where the Sun will be next week and where Venus will be just after Thanksgiving) . . .
. . . are facillating (or forcing) the adjustments (or losses) of structures in the real world (symbolized by earth signs where the cycles began and where Pluto is now) will be somewhat painful but necessary to clear the space for new structures to go up.

To ease that discomfort the Universe has provided us the trine between Jupiter in Scorpio and Neptune in Pisces, all the better to dream up those new structures. Be not afraid of the future; we are in good hands. (Chiron means hand)


You keep posting, I keep reading, and I don’t say often enough, thank you.

Bob, thank you for sharing your rich life experience with us so openly and humbly. It was very inspiring and, I think, helps deepen the bonds this group shares as well as increases the admiration I/we feel for you. You have certainly had varied experience and, it sound like, gone where your gifts and interests took you, motivated by both being true to yourself and by selflessness. I have to say that I don’t understand how your system of astrology works but believe in your expertise and the results. Sending love and light to you, and prayer and blessings for your happiness and good health. Thank you for all you contribute to the betterment of our world.

And, Barbk, same for you. I cannot always keep up with your work either but I try to. Thank you for sharing your dedication, intelligence, expertise, and gifts of vision and expression.

And, thank you to all the many caring and intelligent contributors here who keep me coming back several times a day for over 10 years, not least of which is Nancy, whose intelligence, love and leadership have contributed so much to so many in the Universe, both in the material and spiritual planes.

My healing thoughts/energies go to you, your Mom, her cat, your husband, et. al.

Bob, Congratulations on your brilliant analysis. I admire especially your CLARITY of explanation. You know how to write for amateurs. I know a few Vedic astrologers who predict that if Trump falls, he will take the whole team with him. Do you have anything to say about Pence’s chart? Marjorie Orr sees trouble ahead.

As Bob said: Done and done kc; for your mother, Mac, your husband, and you.

I just got back from the hospital first night home in four days


well daid:

If Chiron symbolizes wounding, and Pisces symbolizes a lack of focus, it should be no surprise that we all are susceptible to a bout of madness (Neptune/Pisces) and/or debilation in some form or other.

trump meeting putin on the 10th


Any insights ?

I find it interesting that Juno, who rules abuse of all kinds, rape, sexual abuse etc. has moved to oppose the Sun of the US Solar Return for Jul 2017. The Sun was at 13 Cancer. Transiting Juno is now at 14 Cap approaching transiting Pluto who sat at 18 Cap. As Juno moved, the more we heard about the sexual predators around us.

Add to this, Juno at 14 Cap is now squaring the Solar Return Jupiter at 14 Libra. Add to this, Juno now trines the Solar Return Neptune at 14 Pisces. Jupiter will magnify anything He touches. Juno opposing the Solar Return Sun creates the perfect cardinal square we are now experiencing…all these sexual abuse cases now coming to the fore… All disposed of by the digger- up -of- all- dirt, His Royal Highness, PLUTO.

O, by the way, this opposition between Juno and the Sun takes place in house 11 and 5…perfect!

The Moon in that Solar Return is also at play, but that’s a whole other post. She is part of a grand trine with Mercury and Chiron.



Thanks for your input. Time to apply in my spare time in studying some charts.

Thank you, everyone… your energies have really helped. I was able to get to my doc today so she could -see- what the tail end of a lupus flare was like. Who knew it would also effect my BP?! She’s put me on a low dose of a different med, and I’m working to up the dosages of D and B12. I”m also now at the same weight I was when I met my hubby. Of course, 30+ years of gravity have given that weight a different type of distribution. (LOL)

Visited with Mom when I got back into town, and she seemed to be more “herself.” But those bruises from the fall and from the IV’s, etc., are unsettling. It looks like someone beat her up. She kept asking if I could just sneak Mac up in my purse (it’s a large tote). Told her this wasn’t rehab… they didn’t take to those kinds of visits here. (gryn)

Mac, I’m happy to say, seems to be moving easier today according to my hubby. He’s also eating about 2x normal. He misses Mom… but he’s finally accepting my hubby. Funny what a can opener can achieve in cat detente!

Since it’s a holiday for me, I’m going to spend the day with Mac while I try to clean Mom’s house. It’s time for another “look over” to see what dangers I can eliminate from the house – like throw rugs and rearranging furniture. I did tell her I’d like to put a 6″ pad of rubber under her carpet. That way, she could be a Weeble.

“Thank you” seems inadequate given the turnaround from last week, but know it comes from the heart. This was a profound feeling of warmth and love that crept up on me about 2:30 this afternoon. And to see my mom smile and laugh was worth everything.

InRe: Trump meeting with Putin…

Somewhere this evening I saw a comment that this meeting was probably Trump’s first merit review with his boss. Seemed appropriate. (gryn)


sounds like you are managing- your Mom must have a good a sense of humor.. taking Mac in a tote into hospital would have been a riot in so many ways…

Lamis B Fari

I read and liked your analysis of transiting Juno… of course I always like your interpretative work whenever you post


You’ll have to forgive my cynicism. Putin’s probably going to lay down the law. The Russian investigation has taken a tremendous toll on US-Russian bilateral relations. With the Nov. 11th Saturn conjunct Putin’s natal Mars (26 Sag) in grand trine to Uranus, Moon and Trump’s Mars, one wonders – could Putin set the agenda in this meeting and persuade Trump to fire Mueller? Circumventing the US legal judicial process and riding out the storm (there would definitely be negative political consequences to pay) would in theory eventually restore Russian-US ties back to its original agenda. Why would Trump yield to Putin’s strong arm tactics? The answer is very simple. Given the dark areas of Trump’s past business practices, Trump may be vulnerable to extortion and blackmail……

Trump’s Business of Corruption

What secrets will Mueller find when he investigates the President’s foreign deals?

The New Yorker
Aug. 21, 2017

President Donald Trump’s attorney Jay Sekulow recently told me that the investigation being led by Robert Mueller, the special counsel appointed by the Justice Department, should focus on one question: whether there was “coördination between the Russian government and people on the Trump campaign.” Sekulow went on, “I want to be really specific. A real-estate deal would be outside the scope of legitimate inquiry.” If he senses “drift” in Mueller’s investigation, he said, he will warn the special counsel’s office that it is exceeding its mandate. The issue will first be raised “informally,” he noted. But if Mueller and his team persist, Sekulow said, he might lodge a formal objection with the Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, who has the power to dismiss Mueller and end the inquiry. President Trump has been more blunt, hinting to the Times that he might fire Mueller if the investigation looks too closely at his business dealings.

Several news accounts have confirmed that Mueller has indeed begun to examine Trump’s real-estate deals and other business dealings, including some that have no obvious link to Russia. But this is hardly wayward. It would be impossible to gain a full understanding of the various points of contact between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign without scrutinizing many of the deals that Trump has made in the past decade. Trump-branded buildings in Toronto and the SoHo neighborhood of Manhattan were developed in association with people who have connections to the Kremlin. Other real-estate partners of the Trump Organization—in Brazil, India, Indonesia, and elsewhere—are now caught up in corruption probes, and, collectively, they suggest that the company had a pattern of working with partners who exploited their proximity to political power.

One foreign deal, a stalled 2011 plan to build a Trump Tower in Batumi, a city on the Black Sea in the Republic of Georgia, has not received much journalistic attention. But the deal, for which Trump was reportedly paid a million dollars, involved unorthodox financial practices that several experts described to me as “red flags” for bank fraud and money laundering; moreover, it intertwined his company with a Kazakh oligarch who has direct links to Russia’s President, Vladimir Putin. As a result, Putin and his security services have access to information that could put them in a position to blackmail Trump.




Astrology practice chart

don’t know Keith Schiller’s DOB the year of birth is 1959

do know Keith Schiller’s date of marriage: 10.9.1983 ( Keith Schiller was in the US Navy when he marries Lena Schiller)

on that wedding day Transiting North Node was 17 Gemini ( Trump’s Natal Uranus 17 Gemini )

likely Keith Schiller didn’t personally know Trump in 1983 but on his wedding day Keith was resonating with Trump’s Natal Uranus….what can be said about that…well I’ll leave that open for comment until more information/data becomes available…

on his wedding day there is a grand earth trine by synastry :

T/pallas 10 cp
T/admetos 10 ta
T/sun 10.9.1959 10 virgo

can draw a few preliminary thoughts: 10 degrees is (one of several) leadership degree
this synastry earth trine suggests
something about Keith’s nature and characteristics….he was in the navy at time of marriage becoming skilled and using important life skills; and he is setting out in life as a family man… in other words various earth (sign) matters

the goal of this exercise is to begin to pull together some astro-date to create a hypothetical birth chart sometime in the year 1959….. this particular process is going to be slow one

“Pence, is a slippery, sneaky religious fanatic who slides around mostly under the radar and says stupid and outrageous things that make no sense in this day and age.”


Lamis B. Faris, good to see you back and thank you for broadening my understanding of Juno’s symbolism. I had been intrigued by Juno’s transit back last Spring, so close to transiting Pluto and wondered just what it would mean. In May this year she stationed retrograde just one degree from reaching a conjunction with Pluto, both in Capricorn, symbol of the establishment.

The explosive revelations of sexual assaults on women by powerful men (which I put under the banner of the breakdown of the patriarchal society era) is more than fodder for tabloids. Trump has aroused the innate revulsion women have held inside regarding powerful men who sexually (or in other ways) abuse women through intimidation. I now believe Juno’s retreat from Pluto in transit has been a time for them (abused women) to gather strength and courage to confront this issue publicly.

Like Alex, I think first of Nessus regarding the issue of rape, but, thanks to you, I now see Juno (in her confrontation with Pluto) as a defender of women who have been assaulted this way.

Tomorrow transiting Juno will finally exact her conjunction with transiting Pluto. Today, just a bit before Juno arrives, the asteroid Astraea (I will never leave you) will herself exactly conjunct Pluto.

Always the last to abandon hope, Astraea has travelled alongside Juno all these months, no doubt bolstering her will to openly confront the issue of men taking advantage of a women’s comparatively lesser strength (or rank) to defend herself against unwanted sexual advances.

Alex, thanks for the link to the article on Nessus and a speedy return to your health.


He wrote The Good Soldiers and Thank You for Your Service.

Bernie TV – Vermont Democratic Party’s Autumn Harvest Festival

By Queries
Friday Nov 10, 2017 · 2:01 PM PST

Manufacturing Consent


Jerry, I wouldn’t call you cynical at all in your thoughts inre Trump. You should spend a day with me and hubby! When Trump initially refused to show his tax forms I knew then they’d show how much of a criminal he was. The idea of Russian blackmail was entirely believable with everything I’d read up to then about Trump’s business practices. All I’ve seen since then only solidifies my belief at what a danger he (and Putin) are to the world.

RE: your November 9th, 2017 8:34 pm posting
I’m a bit confused. Were you in the hospital? Or was someone else in the hospital you were staying with? In either case I hope you and yours are well.

Yes. I think you are right.

It seems fairly obvious; Trump fancies himself as a Putin wannabe (autocrat/ dictator). The only problem is, that sort of leadership style blatantly conflicts with the US constitution. It would not be something that can be sustained over time. There are three branches of government to see to it that our democratic values are upheld.

Could Mike Flynn be the pivotal factor in bringing down the Trump administration i.e. once he is indicted and becomes a cooperative witness?

Latest developments suggest Mike Flynn’s indictment may be imminent……

Bob Mueller Seems to Be Closing In On Mike Flynn — And The Indictments Could Be Explosive


PS Although there is no existing birth data on Flynn other than Dec 1958, it is interesting to note he is currently experiencing a Saturn return (26 – 29 Sag). Saturn is presently in trine to Uranus. Anything can happen with this configuration.


Thank you for your thoughtful good wishes

Re: I was in-hospital – – Monday in ER – – TU, WE, TH in the medical/surgical station;

Thank you – I’ve never been in hospital even one day in life before. It was an experience! The hospital physicians and staff were
amazing. I’m home again getting caregiver support, nursing support, physical therapy support scheduled for various times in the upcoming month. I have recovered somewhat, I’ll be seeing other referrals ongoing. To be honest I don’t know what the outcome will be… I’ll know something more Monday and thereafter. I have to say that I was treated by physicians with the most extraordinary good hearts and the various staff each and every one were literally angels. I encountered kindness and caring and support from every one. The MRI nurse on first day put me at ease; he joked that he knew I’d come through with flying colors because I had an ‘eye of the tiger’ look – LOL. My daughter and son – in – law are sticklers and they are more than satisfied that I am in the best of care and the best of hands.

Best wishes to you and yours,

I’m very glad you are getting good care and proper medical attention. I pray you continue getting your needs met physically, emotionally, mentally and spiritually.

Where I live it is difficult if not impossible to get the medical care I need as the specialists gravitate away from here toward the metropolis 100 miles to the SW where they have better working conditions and better pay. The very few specialists that are here are simply NOT the best, and IMO some are pretty awful.

America is so darn distracted by Trump, we should be screaming this from our Roof-Tops!

“Why aren’t the streets full of protest about the Paradise Papers?” “In striking contrast to the bombshell release of the Panama Papers, the response this time has been muted.
But that’s not reason for despair”

“Beware Fellow Plutocrats…
The Pitchforks Are Coming”
Perhaps we need a President like Nick Hanauer!

Using declassified FBI information, this documentary investigates the extent to which British King Edward the VIII sympathized with the Nazi


Wallis Simpson

Bessie Wallis Warfield
DOB 19 June 1896
Square Cottage, Blue Ridge Summit, Pennsylvania

continued – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXamWEGhBgA

Edward VIII: The Nazi King


I’m sorry to hear about your dilemma in Texas.

The states CA and TX have many diametrically opposed circumstances – conditions in healthcare delivery and otherwise.

I never knew!

Women Vote – “Night of Terror” (Women`s Suffrage/Woman`s Rights)


My unique chart for the beginning of that night of terror with 3 eclipses from the preceding year around it.


Prof. Bertonasco, regarding Pence:

With the possibility that Trump could be impeached or, like Nixon, resign before that happens looking at Nov 3, 2020 it does not appear that Pence will even be running (thinking there would be more than 1 possible aspect to either his natal or progressed chart. Nothing close except for transit Neptune at 18°20′ Pisces square natal Sun (noon chart) 16°09′ Gemini. Could he have been driven from office before then?

Transit Saturn to Pence natals (NOON CHART). All aspects except the last one occur before the mid-term elections in 2018. Looking at other charts (returns, eclipses, etc.) is still to be done.

In right ascension:

Saturn sextile natal Neptune January 12, 2018
Saturn return February 3, 2018
Saturn trine natal Pluto March 7, 2018
Saturn trine natal Pluto May 30, 2018
Saturn return July 8, 2018
Saturn sextile natal Neptune August 23, 2018
Saturn stations sextile natal Neptune September 19, 2018


After the Midterms:
Saturn trine natal Pluto Nov 30, 2018

In longitude (Hard aspects, all before midterms):

Mike Pence WH – Natal Relocated
Jun 7 1959, 1:32 pm, EDT +4:00
White House 38°N53’50”, 077°W02’13”

Saturn Opposite Moon – Dec 19 2017
Saturn Conjunct Saturn – Feb 3 2018
Neptune Square Sun – May 17 2018
Saturn Conjunct Saturn – Jul 7 2018
Neptune Square Sun – Jul 21 2018
Saturn Conjunct Saturn – Nov 2 2018


Trump’s fraud election commission sued … by one of its own

By Kerry Eleveld
Saturday Nov 11, 2017 · 9:01 AM PST

I just noticed that transiting Jupiter has been conjunct the Moon in the Neptune Discovery chart (6 Scorpio 49) which would compound the Neptune influence already in effect due to the Neptune Discovery chart’s Yod being highlighted by transiting Chiron in Pisces.

The yod made up from Neptune and Saturn, both at 25+ Aquarius (conjunct US Moon-Pallas conjunction) who are sextile the Pluto at 25+ Aries (conjunct transiting Uranus) – all of whom are quincunx the Mars in the Neptune discovery chart at 25+ Virgo – turns into a Boomerang pattern, thanks to transiting Chiron opposite this chart’s Mars.

Another point I’m just discovering; Sedna was at 26+ Pisces when Neptune was discovered. This means more nasties will be crawling out from under the rock through most of February after Chiron stations direct; the Weinstein kind.

I dare say even the lying-about-Russian-connections kind of creatures like Flynn can be represented by this Boomerang.

PS – Thanks for the Flynn Saturn Return info Jerry Watson!!

This touched my heart, as we live in the SanFrancisco East Bay Hills and we see so many Deer.
Video Rescuing a Lucky Deer: https://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/watch-hunter-uses-chainsaw-to-rescue-deer-trapped-in-tree/

I trust no one in the tRump camp.

There was no reason for tRump to make a statement that people will die because of the Russia investigation. In the past when he made statements that seemed to have no foundation it seems they followed connections made by team members with Russians.

He was just in contact with Putin. A thumb drive could be passed with a handshake without being detected. There is strong belief that Putin has had opponents murdered. With indictments coming out in the Russia investigation and a possibility that higher ups in the chain who could end tRumps presidency could be indicted after evidence against them has been offered by the low hanging fruit, removing those potential witnesses might have been suggested to tRump by Putin. Could we see protective custody or witness protection?

The time stamps for my posts do not agree with reality. Check in order my posts and Alex’s and the time stamps. I am saving this page as a PDF file.

If the difference was caused by the server everyone’s posts would be affected but not if only some posts were targeted. I do not have this problem on other sites I post to.

While Republicans dodge questions about Senate candidate Roy Moore’s alleged molestation of a teenage girl, smirking all the while, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are barrelling ahead with the party’s plutocratic agenda.

Not only does the GOP’s latest tax proposal benefit a handful of families that are already rolling in dough, it could end up costing millions of middle-income Americans as much as 250 percent more by the time it’s fully implemented in 2027.


11:02 pm, CST – 00:02 EST Time check.

Mid to late December looks quite interesting. Especially of note is Saturn’s conjunction to the December 21-22 Winter Solstice degree (0 Capricorn) in semi-square to Jupiter (15 Scorpio). This will be triggering the Federal Reserve’s natal Pluto-Sun opposition (0 Cancer-1 Capricorn) and equally significant; North Korea’s natal Uranus (0 Cancer) in semi square to natal Pluto (15 Leo).

Back in late September, in order to avoid a US government shutdown, Pres. Trump made a deal with the Democrats to shift the US debt ceiling limit deadline to December 8th. That next critical date in December may not find the Democrats as readily accommodating as the following article below explains. Without a substantive agreement the US economy could find itself in disarray and potential free-fall….

Congress Is On Track For A Major Government Shutdown Showdown

October 23, 2017

Don’t look now, but it’s becoming a real possibility that the government will shut down in December. Congress has until midnight on December 8 to pass a spending bill or the federal government will run out of money.

The tricky thing is that Republicans need at least eight Democrats in the Senate to meet the 60-vote threshold needed to pass a bill, which means they will need to make some serious compromises to get a spending bill through.

The shutdown dance is a familiar one — it looked possible as recently as this past April — and it’s still too early to evaluate the state of negotiations (Congress has a habit of waiting until the last minute on spending bills). But this year, President Donald Trump has really complicated Congress’s job.

Once Obamacare repeal failed, the only major item on Republicans’ agenda for the rest of the year was supposed to be tax reform. But then Trump announced his administration planned to sunset the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, putting upward of 600,000 unauthorized immigrants in limbo; and that it would end the Affordable Care Act’s subsidy payments, a move that will increase premiums for Americans and dig a deeper hole in the national deficit. Trump is forcing Congress’s hand to act, but he hasn’t given a clear or realistic policy directive on immigration or health care.

Congress also keeps putting off negotiations on key policies, like the now-expired federal Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP).

“These are all crises being created by congressional Republicans or the president,” one senior Democratic leadership aide said.

None of these policy areas are easy bipartisan negotiations, and Democrats have identified all of them as priorities. If they remain unresolved by December, we can expect Democrats to tie them to the must-pass government spending bill — and use the threat of a government shutdown to try to get their way.

As with all spending negotiations, this will be a game of chicken between Democrats and Republicans. If Democrats can hold together in withholding votes, Republicans will be forced to cave — or risk presiding over a government shutdown.



In no way am I excusing or defending the behavior and/or mentality of Roy Moore, but consider this.

In the 19th century and well into the 20th there were many places in the American South that were hillbilliy-ish, i.e. cultures in which it was considered acceptable and even ideal for 14 year old girls to marry and have children. The man who married her was often in his middle 20’s to early 30’s as the custom was for a man to establish himself financially and socially in his profession before marrying. This was especially true for businessmen, lawyers, and medical doctors.

In my own experience with real Southern hillbilly people, this cultural norm extended at least into the 1960’s and beyond. Remember the TV show The Beverly Hillbillies? A running joke was how to get “old” Ellie Mae married, even though she was far older than 14! Cousins marrying cousins? In isolated areas availability of alternate genes were scarce. A distant cousin might be the best choice.

Roy Moore was born February 11, 1947 in Gadsden, Alabama, in an area and time in which that young girl/older man ethos still prevailed. After he finished his stint in Vietnam he went to law school and returned to Gadsen to practice law. In the 1970’s he was in his 30’s, but functioning with that old Southern hillbilly mentality. (This is verified by his comrades in arms in Vietnam who pretty universally hated the man.)

I find it interesting he has stated he never dated a younger woman (16 is still the age of consent in Alabama) (in earlier times it was younger) without her mother’s permission. The implication is of course that he had that maternal permission!

Unto this day there are some Southerners who refer to the Civil War as the “War of Northern Aggression.” I reason Roy Moore is a 19th century Southern Confederate “Christian”, probably from a formerly hillbilly family trapped in a century he does not and cannot possibly understand.

His g-d- is an anthropomorphic white male entity dwelling up in the clouds, a kind of synthesis of the punishing Zeus with his lightening bolts and of YHWH of the earlier chapters of the Old Testament. Roy Moore’s g-d is one who (in his mind) grants white males privilege and supremacy over women and of course other races. Moore believes his way is natural and right, and modern values are evil.

Like Trump he is a regressionist, seeking to undo the cultural, social, and moral progress most of us on this blog value. Roy Moore is as rigid as the Confederate statues many of us seek to bring down and out of the public square. Too bad we can’t confine the man to a museum as an artifact like those statues, of an earlier time.


on 14 year old happened like this: a mother and her 14 daughter were in a court house for a custody hearing moore approached the mother and told her not to take the daughter into the hearing it would be upsetting and that he would watch over her at the courthouse hallway and stay with her until the mother’s custody hearingwas over; during that time with the 14 year old he began grooming her, gained her trust and then called her thereafter at her home and told her to sneak out of the house to meet with him on the second meeting similar to the first when he was with the 14 year old without the parent’s knowledge Moore got sexual with the 14 year old (I’ll not comment on the details)

Moore groomed her, then meet her by getting the girl to sneak out of her parent’s home to see him and thereafter he began the physical sexual abuse…… that’s not southern culture that is a pedophile grooming his victim

his victim

Exactly Eliseo, Moore is another perfect example of the archetypal male from an obsolete patriarchal society. We are in the throes of weeding out the end of that way of life, one that was over for most of us a century ago.

The remnants of that way of life, deeply entrenched in the subconscious of some men and women, is both an example of polarization in male-female relationship and a starting place for fundamental change in values.

As transiting Uranus digs out more examples of this archaic mindset – while still in the masculine Mars-ruled sign of Aries – it is preparation for his journey through Taurus where Venus rules and new values will be determined. Transiting Uranus won’t leave his square with the US natal Pluto in Capricorn until mid May (but will be back), however this was his last trine with transiting Saturn and a rare opportunity.

The next time might not be this easy.


At the time of contact with the 14 year old, in the state of Alabama, it was illegal for a grown man to touch a 14 year old. She was not of the legal age to consent. I really don’t care about the cultural issue, I care about he law. I care about the permanent, damaging effect of an adult person preying on a child.


Ralfee Finn. Interesting…

Exactly Eliseo, Moore is another perfect example of the archetypal male from an obsolete patriarchal society. We are in the throes of weeding out the end of that way of life, one that was over for most of us a century ago.

The remnants of that way of life, deeply entrenched in the subconscious of some men and women, is both an example of polarization in male-female relationship and a starting place for fundamental change in values.

As transiting Uranus digs out more examples of this archaic mindset – while still in the masculine Mars-ruled sign of Aries – it is preparation for his journey through Taurus where Venus rules and new values will be determined. Transiting Uranus won’t leave his square with the US Pluto in Capricorn until May (but will be back), however this was his last trine with transiting Saturn and a rare opportunity.

The next time might not be this easy.

Well fudge, I can’t seem to get in step regarding the use of this I-pad or to refresh the thread after several hours. Bear with me please.

Janet, thanks for your note a few days ago and I’m with you re: culture issue vs. law.

Diana, thanks for the Ralfee Finn link and her reference to the Neptune Jupiter trine was, appropriately, leaning toward the negative, given the tenor of the times. I for one am hoping it will include some huge and compassionate overtures to the people of Puerto Rico.

Watching the BBC news coverage of the PR plight made me feel so ashamed of the Trump government response to this catastrophe. Where once I felt anger and sometimes fear, now I felt such shame that our country appears to feel so little compassion.

If Neptune is feeling without thinking of practical outcomes and Jupiter is way too much of a good thing then the US people, if not the US government will come forth with the help – material and physical – to alieve this crisis, and not a moment too soon.

n a natal chart Black Moon Lilith marks an important point of dark power. Lilith in conjunction with the Lights, the Sun and Moon, is extraordinarily significant.
In essence, Lilith is the opposite of the Moon. She is an unMother, unCarer, unNurturer, unscrupulous. She is unbound by convention or taboo. She is an outcast, the wronged woman, the first wife, the femme fatale, Glenn Close, chaos. We all have this energy somewhere — more or less acknowledged, more or less controlled, more or less hungry.


I think the healing thoughts shared here with me are helping – -I’m slowly getting stronger


Every day, you get better and better!

Bob you have the courage to say what is not mentioned often online saying that Putin has had enemies killed. In modern warfare, there are deadly chemical, germ warfare or even natural means of ‘neutrlizing’ an enemy. Certainly with Putin’s KGBs history as a spy operative and member the possibilities are there. I wonder if Trump’s team ingests food before he does. I can’t discount it. But if Putin passed a flash drive onto POTUS, he’s such a klutz, I wouldn’t put it past him to drop it and not take the clue. God help up.

We are all indeed afraid of that or by Kim Jung Un ‘s aggressive behavior and the hair raising exchanges between him and IQ 45’s. Yet, we have noticed that NK has not fired a missle in some weeks, due to diplomacy in the background. It has to be disheartening to them that the bleached hair one spouts off. I bight my lip each time. We are not livng in normal times.

Alex and Janet,
As I said, I’m not excusing or defending Mr. Moore. I’m quite aware his actions toward the 14 year old were illegal, and yes the man is definitely a pedophile. He is a sick man who grew up in a sick culture. His actions were reprehensible. He lives in a universe of moronic politics with a moronic, self-righteous sense of morality.

That culture continues in its sickness. Otherwise, there would be no way a man who belongs in jail could be a candidate for the US Senate.

If You’re Interested…Right Now:
John Rothmann, in on KGO RADIO LIVE. John worked for Richard Nixon back in the day. Brilliant Guy/Very Politically Savvy and you will enjoy!
His program is on tonight until 7pm PST.

If you wish to call, Please Don’t Hesitate:
(There are also excellent Podcasts listed there)


I’m thinking we must be in a very special time right now, what with transiting Saturn and Uranus, the old and new rulers of Aquarius, being exactly trine each other this past Saturday, and two Saturdays from now transiting Jupiter and Neptune, the old and new rulers of Pisces will be exactly trine each other.

Perhaps it is a time of accord between past and present or old and new; between expansion and restriction or between revolution and peace maybe.

Or maybe it is a kind of detente between Dems and Pubs – a recognition of things we have in common by seeing further and wider, even if somewhat lacking in clarity.

The outer planets Uranus and Neptune came together 14 years ago in the degree transiting Pluto will reach a month from now. By the time their 3rd and final conjunction took place (Uranus and Neptune) the transiting Jupiter and Saturn at that time were in trine with one another, as if to say “we agree”.

I do hope Nancy is well and I just want her to know how much we value her forecasts, her humor and her generous Aquarian spirit. Jupiter and Venus are conjunct in Scorpio right now so I’m hoping everyone is feeling in tune with the Universe. Peace and love.

Well, none too soon!


Anyone want to weigh in? There’s an exact opposition of Doug Jones natal 10th House Sun at 13 Taurus to Jupiter at 13 Scorpio on December 12th — the day of the special election for the US Senate seat from Alabama?

Hi Fe,

I looked at Jones’ chart several days ago and saw that but figured transits of Mars to his secondary progressed Saturn and Saturn to his secondary progressed Mars, both less than 1 degree from exact, made the waters too cloudy to make a firm call. I used Birmingham as his office is located there.

Doug Jones – Sec.Prog.
Dec 12 2017, 11:00 pm, CST +6:00
Birmingham Alabama 33°N31’14” 086°W48’09”

Parans to Mar – 268°42′
Parans to Sat – 211°19′

Transits Dec 12 2017 – Event Chart
Dec 12 2017, 11:00 pm, CST +6:00
Birmingham Alabama 33°N31’14” 086°W48’09”

Parans to Mar – 210°34′
Parans to Sat – 269°06′

My post time is correct.


Brillliant. Thank you!

It may be there’s some shenanigans on the part of the state’s governor — like changing the date of the election, or vote tampering if the election happens in early December as planned.

This is a state that went full bore Trump in 2016, and whose GOP up until recently was willing to prop up a pedophile until McConnell’s polling calculus made Moore a loser.

It may also be that somehow McConnell’s “mainstream” candidate Luther Strange gets put up for candidacy at this 11th hour.

My chart for the GOP has natal Mars at 179°00′ squared by transit Saturn at 269°06′ and the midpoint of transit Sun and Saturn at 264°51′ on it’s secondary progressed Sun at 264°41′ on Dec 12th. If there are any shenanigans they may be exposed.

Transit Sun and Mercury (Rx) are in aspect to the Sibly chart Mars-Neptune square in longitude and exactly opposite Sibly Mars in right ascension on Dec 12th.

Hi Nancy,

One of your earlier post’s headlines was titled “Thug in Chief”, here is tonight’s editorial in NYT’s:

President Trump’s Thing for Thugs


In late 1992, 1,700 scientists from around the world issued a dire “warning to humanity.” They said humans had pushed Earth’s ecosystems to their breaking point and were well on the way to ruining the planet. The letter listed environmental impacts like they were biblical plagues — stratospheric ozone depletion, air and water pollution, the collapse of fisheries and loss of soil productivity, deforestation, species loss and catastrophic global climate change caused by the burning of fossil fuels.

“If not checked,” wrote the scientists, led by particle physicist and Union of Concerned Scientists co-founder Henry Kendall, “many of our current practices put at serious risk the future that we wish for human society and the plant and animal kingdoms, and may so alter the living world that it will be unable to sustain life in the manner that we know.”

But things were only going to get worse.

To mark the letter’s 25th anniversary, researchers have issued a bracing follow-up. In a communique published Monday in the journal BioScience, more than 15,000 scientists from 184 countries assess the world’s latest responses to various environmental threats.



Randy Bryce
for Congress (Paul Ryan’s seat)

continued –

I am humbled to have Bernie’s support as a part of this campaign, just as I am humbled and grateful to have yours. Together, we will win the fight for Medicare for All, a $15 minimum wage, an end to Citizens United, and equal rights for all Americans.

And we’re going to do it the people-powered way.

So let’s get to work on giving working people a voice in Congress. Watch the video, share it with your friends, and chip in $3 to stand with us and keep momentum for this grassroots campaign going.

This campaign is a big tent, and I’m going to need everyone’s support to defeat Paul Ryan in 2018. With Bernie Sanders, and even more importantly, with you, we’ve got a key new ally.

For everything that you do. Thank you.

Randy Bryce

I seldom frequent youtube…but this blew me away:
Psychic Mom and her Son working together:
Amazingly Serious Subjects.

“JFK’s Ghost Is Troubling Trump”

“Did Trump Setup Kushner?”
(Regarding Robert Mercer Trump Connection)

So much more to explore.

This article is very thought provoking:


In these days of intense introspection in the media, even navel gazing, as though nobody else exists but the US, except as a backdrop to the embarrassment of the latest travel antics of Donald Trump, it is a shame that there is so little public discussion of the way the US is endangering its position in the world. Neighbouring Canada, being essentially a vassal state, will face the same challenges, despite its different views on social welfare. So it is good to read an article like the above that takes a wider view, geographically speaking.

When the US is busy creating a vacuum by its lack of direction and by its headless / heedless administration, there will inevitably be a consolidation of power to China, on top of the economic shift that has already happened. Future generations in all the countries of North and South America will wonder at the speed of it and the US won’t have as much control over the outcome as in the past 70 years.

Nobody will do a Marshall plan for America if it falls off the international economic wagon. The Trump administration is chumming with dictators and nixing any hope of reasonable trade and environmental agreements. Our children and grandchildren will bear the political and environmental consequences. There won’t be a whole lot of tax revenue to fix things if we are not building, repairing and selling to outsiders, as well as ourselves. There is the risk that we really will be left behind by Asia.

Undoubtedly we will survive despite the many risks – economic, political, climate change, the influence of electronic communications (or misinformation), etc., but we can be reasonably sure that we won’t be setting the agenda as in the past. Donald Trump and his supporters are taking America into isolationist territory (and Justin Trudeau, cute as he is, can’t stop him).

Another good read:



Who is Daniel Boorstin

Influential for the writer Kurt Andersen at Atlantic magazine

Kurt Andersen is the host and co-creator of Studio 360 and author of Fantasyland: How America Went Haywire—A 500-Year History.


Excellent reads, Beowulfie. Read enough of each to chuckle about Cobert’s coining of “truthiness.” I am capable of listening to and have in the past accepted some off-the-wall concept. Experience, and hard knocks, however, are difficult to twist into fantasy and in some cases downright psychopathy, ie it’s all someone else’s fault. Trump has become the poster child for this. I do know that many of us DID see the unvarnished truth about Trump, and the fact that he might place our republic in serious jeopardy. He’s done all that and more.


Mercury in Sagittarius. Mercury goes Station Retrograde in Sagittarius at Sat Dec 02 2017 23:34
GMT-0800 (PST)

Venus in Scorpio. Venus enters Sagittarius at Fri Dec 01 2017 01:14
GMT-0800 (PST)

Mars in Libra. Mars enters Scorpio at Sat Dec 09 2017 00:59
GMT-0800 (PST)

Jupiter in Scorpio. Jupiter goes Station Retrograde in Scorpio at Wed Mar 07 2018 20:45
GMT-0800 (PST)

Saturn in Sagittarius. Saturn enters Capricorn at Tue Dec 19 2017 20:48
GMT-0800 (PST)

Uranus (retrograde) in Aries. Uranus goes Station Direct in Aries at Tue Jan 02 2018 06:10
GMT-0800 (PST)

Neptune (retrograde) in Pisces. Neptune goes Station Direct in Pisces at Tue Nov 21 2017 06:20
GMT-0800 (PST)

Pluto in Capricorn. Pluto goes Station Retrograde in Capricorn at Sat Apr 21 2018 08:26
GMT-0700 (PDT)

Chiron (retrograde) in Pisces. Chiron goes Station Direct in Pisces at Mon Dec 04 2017 01:47
GMT-0800 (PST)




Neptune Station Direct

Grand Water Trine

SD NEPTUNE 11 Pisces
Poseidon 12 Scorpio
Jupiter 09 Scorpio
Kronos 11 Cancer

Patty — I stumbled across Violetta a few weeks ago and I’m always interested in what she has to say. It’s her basic intelligence and the way she works the metaphors of the visions that come to her. Besides, she’s “simpatica”.



Canada Asks For A Note From Your Spouse Or Live-In To Buy A Gun

“My values are my neighbors’ values, and we know that Washington has gotten way off track. Whether it’s healthcare or jobs, national security or education, our democracy or the environment – there’s not one issue where Paul Ryan and Donald Trump are headed in the right direction. It’s time for a change in Congress.”


Does Congress Think Trump Can Be Trusted With Nuclear Weapons?
At a hearing, senators shared their fears.
DAVID CORN NOV. 14, 2017 1:27 PM


“That’s what Trump has done: he has made nuclear fears quite real again. The witnesses tried to depict the current policy as generally safe and reasonable. But they could not avoid a basic fact: the system ultimately depends on the judgement of one person. Trump is an erratic and impulsive man who has repeatedly demonstrated minimal devotion to facts. He also has expressed troubling views about nuclear weapons, sometimes adopting a fatalistic stance toward nuclear war. This hearing did little to allay reasonable worries about Trump and nukes. The only consolation prize is that it demonstrated that if you’re losing sleep about Trump possessing the power to destroy the civilized world, you are not alone.”

Violetta has certainly impressed me!
After watching her in action…I feel that what she does is something we all could develop.
She’s very humble, not using Tarot Cards and coordinating her visions her son makes it seem far more sincere and natural. I’m gonna try doing this with my own Son.
Everyone should at least check her out:

I completely believe that all human beings can be psychic, it just depends how much their personal culture has discouraged them from pursuing it. I’ve run across a LOT of psychics in my life, she strikes me as being very valid. Besides, she’s so charming!
Do you know the Sanaya Roman and Duane Packer books? There’s one called Opening to Channel, it might help you. Have fun on your “opening” Journey!

Hi Fierywoman,

In the Violetta video: “You’re Framed! – Did Trump Setup Kushner?” Violetta states that back in May she had a sense there would be an ending to the Trump presidency during the period of November 7th -11th. Although on the surface of it, that information appears to be inaccurate, the fact that Trump had a private meeting with Putin on November 10th suggests something of import might have been discussed which could upset the balance.

If one doesn’t mind resorting to intuitives on this sort of thing, according to one tarot card reader, in that private Putin-Trump meeting on the 10th, Putin allegedly made it clear to Trump that he reneged on an understanding they had and so as a consequences the ‘secrets’ he had on Trump will soon be revealed (or words to that effect). Apparently lots of money had been involved in this “arrangement that went sour”. Here’s the video…..

The Trump and Putin Meeting November 10th, What Happened?


I wonder if there will be some new information coming out on Trump when tr. Mars conjoins Trump’s Jupiter in square to tr. Pluto on the 19th?

Typo: Read instead – “and so as a CONSEQUENCE”


Hope Hicks (White House Communications Director)
DOB 10.21.88
Greenwich CN

N/Mars 00 Aries (point)
N/Sun 29 Libra (T/Moon 11.15.17)


Mueller Investigation This Week

Mundane Venus
(women’s issues, peace and diplomatic resolutions)

Transiting Venus 10 Scorpio
Natal Sedna 10 Taurus


Fixed Grand Cross By Synastry (world stage)

T/Venus 10SC (N/PL 11SC)
GOP degree 10AQ
N/Sedna 10TA
N/Orcus 10LE



Noviles always describe an initiation and in a natal chart describes the initiations to be undertaken this lifetime. The level of intensity is described by the planets and signs involved in the novile aspect or pattern. E.g. if a person has Moon novile Pluto, then the level of emotional intensity will be very high.

When transiting Mars conjuncts Trump’s Jupiter it will also conjunction US progressed Mars. In Libra that could mean partnership. While they both square transiting Pluto in Capricorn, they both trine Trump’s natal Uranus in Gemini too.

“There’s nothing sacred about such toxic sacrifices, in the end: Congress washes its hands of thousands of American gun violence victims every year with its support of the Gun Lobby, and it is equally corrupt when it enables dangerous players like Roy Moore to take a seat in Congress. Passive enabling of violence and corruption—a Mars-Neptune phenomenon—is just another way of pulling the trigger.”


This week, without a single hearing, the House of Representatives is expected to vote on the “Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.” After weeks of claiming that all middle-class taxpayers would see a tax cut, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) took the rare step of admitting to a lie over the weekend, telling The New York Times, “You can’t guarantee that absolutely no one sees a tax increase.” And on Friday, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) also sought to walk back his claims, from promising tax cuts to “everyone” to assuring “average” taxpayers that they would see a cut. Now, new analysis shows just how many middle- and working-class Americans would see a tax increase under their tax plan.

According to analysis by the Center for American Progress based on Tax Policy Center data, 36 million working- and middle-class households would see a tax increase by 2027 under the House tax bill.



Some States Roll Back “Retroactive Medicaid,” a Buffer for the Poor — and for Hospitals

The retroactive coverage “can compensate for the sorts of errors and lapses that can so easily occur on the part of both the applicant and the government bureaucracy” that delay applications, said Gordon Bonnyman, staff attorney at the Tennessee Justice Center, a public interest law firm that represents low-income and uninsured residents.

“We’re making it a lot more likely that Medicaid-eligible members are going to incur significant medical debt,” said Mary Nelle Trefz, health policy associate at the Child & Family Policy Center in Des Moines, whose organization opposed the change.

“If you’re a moderate- to low-income working family, one or two days in the hospital is enough to ruin you financially,” he said.


Gene editing in the body

How it works

A gene-editing tool called CRISPR has gotten a lot of recent attention, but this study used a different one called zinc finger nucleases. They’re like molecular scissors that seek and cut a specific piece of DNA.

The therapy has three parts: The new gene and two zinc finger proteins. DNA instructions for each part are placed in a virus that’s been altered to not cause infection but to ferry them into cells. Billions of copies of these are given through a vein.

They travel to the liver, where cells use the instructions to make the zinc fingers and prepare the corrective gene. The fingers cut the DNA, allowing the new gene to slip in. The new gene then directs the cell to make the enzyme the patient lacked.

Bernie Sanders Twitter


Jerry,Agreed. I took the Nov 7th -11th period that V talked about the way an astrologer would consider a transit, and that that period perhaps would be the straw that broke the camel’s back. Lotsa stuff definitely went down during those days.
As for hard-core predictions, I always think back to something Nick Campion said many years ago — (forgive my paraphrasing) — something about how at the present time we have the most skilled, educated and talented astrologers around, but that astrology really wasn’t about that kind of predicting, because, he said, (something like) *if astrology was really about that, at this point in time we’d be able to do it.* He noted that astrology could tell us at best if we were about to have a nervous breakdown or the pipes would break — but not which one.
But I have to admit, whenever astrology comes through at a certain moment, I still marvel and think: Wow! This s%@( really works!

The Paradise Papers


GOP Fund-Raiser Quits Over Trump Tax Bill: “It’s going to hurt a lot of middle-class Republicans.”

By First Amendment
Wednesday Nov 15, 2017 · 5:07 AM PST

continued – oops

upthread 3:45 pm


Steve Louro, a Republican donor who hosted an event for Donald J. Trump at his Long Island home last year, abruptly quit his post as regional finance chairman for the state’s Republican Party on Tuesday over objections to the Republican-led tax bill advancing through Congress.

“The bill that’s going to get passed is not going to take care of the American people. It’s a disgrace,” Mr. Louro said in a phone interview. He had resigned from his post as a fund-raiser via email earlier in the day, he said.

“The Republican Party took control of the government against all odds, and the bottom line is” they messed up, he said, using an expletive. “It’s a disgrace. It’s going to hurt a lot of middle-class Republicans.”


Alex, I just posted that exact NYT article about Steve Louro quitting on FB, along with those 3 paragraphs (which I consolidated & shortened). And then I came here and did a double take. It is a significant action on the part of a Republican fund raiser.

Fierywoman, Jerry et al – yes it is marvelous that astrology can and does work! That is despite it having no cred as a science and having a history as colourful as any spook could love.

I’ve done charts off and on since the mid-70s (more off than on) and while computer charts have made a huge difference to speed and efficiency compared to the hours it took by hand when I first learned, I still find that there’s no substitute for taking your sweet time about understanding them. Charts are a wonder and a mystery.

When the chart time is accurate and there’s enough coffee in the brain and the reference books are handy, it can come together like some beautiful science. Being an ex-accountant, I can’t go over to the psychic side – I keep testing it and trying to prove it wrong, looking for proof and precision, and always making room for alternate interpretations, but once I’ve hedged it every which way, there are times when the answer comes out clear as a bell. No amount of rational thought can convince me why – but it works. Other times, no matter how I beat it to death, nothing comes clear.

And in between are the fun and games. I do find it hard to deal with really bad news. You have to respect the universe – it has twists you can’t be prepared for. DT being one, but I still think he’s here until 2020.


For Every Season




Alex, what do you make of this; right now transiting Dionysus and Child, both at 17+ Gemini are exactly conjunct Trump’s natal Uranus. Would you say he is in a state of intoxication while simultaneously reduced to communicating as a child? I think it bears watching.

Republicans Want to Make the Koch Brothers’ Political Donations Tax Deductible

The House tax bill could lead to $2 billion per year in tax-free dark money.


The folks at the Department of Agriculture laid on a friendly welcome for the Trump transition team, but they soon discovered that most of his appointees were stunningly unqualified. With key U.S.D.A. programs—from food stamps to meat inspection, to grants and loans for rural development, to school lunches—under siege, the agency’s greatest problem is that even the people it helps most don’t know what it does.



RE: PROTECTOR for mania/(maniacs) of the non-conventional – – Orange’s Tea Party, Evangelical, Federalist base

Dionysus is the protector of those who do not belong to conventional society and thus symbolizes everything which is chaotic, dangerous and unexpected, everything which escapes human reason and which can only be attributed to the unforeseeable




re: fill in the blanks from past or progression, transits or natal/and/or event synastry in other words who, what, where, when

Mutable Grand Cross (world stage)

17 degree Gemini
17 degree Virgo
17 degree Sagittarius
17 degree Pisces

Hi everyone – been in lurk mode – lots going on in life ……. healing and loving thoughts to all here in need …..
thought some might find this interesting especially in relation to recent unsavory news – Nessus and chiron

Beowulfie, so true, so true. I’ve done charts (not so much now: I’m lazy!) since the late 80’s. When I actually sit down to look at aspects, I’m lost in the exquisite beauty of how it all comes together, over and over again (as if the chart is trying to knock you over the head with a 2 x 4 because you were just too dense to see the connections in the first place !

For whatever good it might do, I am writing a whole bunch of “Red State” senators to plead with them not to vote Yea on this new tax bill. I did this before on the ACA bill. My problem is that I live in a “Blue State” so all my reps and senators are very much in line with my thinking. Still, those senators like McCain, Murkowski, Collins, Flake, Johnson, Corker…are more amenable to voting NO since many of them are leaving at the end of their term.
If you live in a Red State, maybe it’s worth a try.
This new tax bill is an abomination to my way of thinking. So is filling the Federal Courts with nincompoops! I just hope the Republic can bear the slow, not so subtle erosion of everything we have ever stood for…like a pack of hyenas nipping at the buffalo’s heels and neck and sides, finally bringing it down. I am anxious thinking about the constant barrage of outrageous acts by this government.

Vote on GOP tax bill in H.R. tomorrow – – Thursday

Yes, but then the Senate has to weigh in. Just like the vote to repeal the ACA. House passed it, the Senate did not! So exhausting trying to eliminate the pack of hyenas! They just keep coming…

Regarding ‘soul sickness’ – Could it be that Mr. Trump is a virus of sorts; and that our current, social malaise is the ‘body politic’ running a fever to rid itself of a dangerous pathogen?

Dean W.

Regarding ‘soul sickness’ – BBC identified the problem. It’s a virus that sometimes contorts the body. No solutions found so far. Take a look……..

Angela Merkel’s Poker Face Problem – Tracey Breaks The News: Episode 1 Preview – BBC One


Lost Leonardo Da Vinci Painting That Cost £45 In 1958 Sells At Auction For A Record-Breaking $450 Million


Thank you, kiwi for the very interesting link.

Here is Colbert speaking with Dr. Phil on the subject:


As another holiday season is upon us.


Opposition Mounts Against ‘Greatest Transfer of Wealth to Super-Rich in Modern US History’

If we are going to stop Republicans from taking healthcare from millions and slashing Medicare to give tax cuts to the wealthy and large corporations, now is the time to stand up and fight back.”


This time lapse video from Space is very cool:


Ive been thinking about the roll back of women’s rights/issues lately, and it occurs to me that the USA is approaching the 100th anniversary of women’s suffrage in the usa – ratified as the 19th amendment on 18th August 1920
In context of the 2020 elections, I wonder how much extra effect that centennial celebration will have on awakening and motivating women for the 2020 election? And further, I wonder what the astro aspects might be?

(NZ women got to vote a generation earlier in 1893)

We are in uncharted waters now; evolution is kicking up the speed to which we may or may not have become accustomed to since last year’s election. Women especially have taken on the mantle of speaking truth-to-power and men from all walks of life are examining their pasts for possible chinks in the armor. Where and when will this all end?

Saturday’s Scorpio New Moon, the sign associated with deep secrets and dark waters, is opposed to transiting Sedna in Taurus who is an authority on dark waters. In myth, Sedna was betrayed by both her father and fake husband and when she came into her own power she remembered those betrayals.

Transiting Pallas, the warrior goddess and strategist, has retreated back into Aries now, the sign of the Individual. She won’t make actual contact with transiting Uranus (this time) who is also retrograde, but she will be close enough to pick up his shock waves and forced observance of Truth Even beyond when she stations direct on December 17th. Prepare yourselves for at least another couple of months of outing of men in power who think nothing of forcing themselves on women, even girls under the age of consent.

In the Saturday New Moon, Pallas in Aries trines the Leo Total Solar Eclipse of last August as does the New Moon’s Saturn in Sagittarius which conjuncts the Galactic Center. This is another clue as to the Universe’s overall plan to balance the scales; to de-polarize the uneven social values between men and women. The thing about eclipses is that their influence lasts a long time.

This new Scorpio Moon is also trine healer Chiron in Pisces who uses pain to make us aware of what needs to be addressed. The New Moon and transiting Chiron both trine US natal Mercury in Cancer which, together, provides a water grand trine,assuring us of a torrent of emotional expression, not necessarily from sexually assaulted women. Sen. Melendez is an example of this as he addressed a crowd following the announcement of a mistrial in his favor.

Thank you Jerry, that Angela Merkel clip is hilarious …. and spot on!

Angela Merkel’s Poker Face Problem – Tracey Breaks The News: Episode 1 Preview – BBC One


Thank you, Barbara. Very insightful.

continued- Robert Mueller

Transiting North Node 08 Leo
Natal Pluto 08 Leo – Mueller


Galactic Center

2018 Grand Fire Trine by Synastry

T/SU 27AR (T/UR28AR)
Natal Venus 26 Leo – Mueller
Galactic Center 26 Sagittarius

To arms! To arms! The women are coming! The women are coming!

They will take away our toys (guns), our mansplaining, and our man spread! (jk)



“Washington, Aug. 26 — The half-century struggle for woman suffrage in the United States reached its climax at 8 o’clock this morning, when Bainbridge Colby, as Secretary of State, issued his proclamation announcing that the Nineteenth Amendment had become a part of the Constitution of the United States.

The signing of the proclamation took place at that hour at Secretary Colby’s residence, 1507 K Street Northwest, …”

Front Page Image Provided by UMI

Copyright 2010 The New York Times Company

Aug 21, 2017, eclipse Zenith in Washington 152°39′. 19th Amendment Jupiter 152°15′. Eclipse at 151°01′ on it.


And Juno continues her journey…

When one studies Juno, her characteristics exhibit a tremendous range, from a vindictive shrew to the Juno who has worked through her demons and becomes a defender of women, abused women, and women’s rights.

Having just crossed Pluto, She now sits at 21 Capricorn 57 still in opposition to the US Mars in the 2017 Solar Return. By Dec. 5-11th she will oppose the US Solar Return Mercury…and that brings in the Saga of the Moon which sits at 29 Scorpio in that same Solar Return.

As already discussed in many posts by many people, including myself, that moon is part of a grand water trine featuring Mercury at 28 Cancer, Moon at 29 Scorpio and Chiron at 28 Pisces.

Mercury in the 5th House will speak out loudly. She is in Cancer. She will speak to the Moon in the 9th House.

Because that Moon sits in the 9th House (the rule of law) of this Solar Return, I think it might signal a huge change in how Congress/Senate handles sexual abuse. New Laws with the women of congress weighing in significantly. Disposing of the Moon’s energy would be Pluto of that Return who sits at 18 Capricorn in the 11th house, which signifies the congress.

And Chiron at 28 Pisces in
the Return’s first house would indicate that the original wound of rampant sexual abuse throughout is on it’s way to healing.

19th Amendment with 2020 election transits.



Open thread for night owls: Wisconsin dairy farmer tells GOP its estate tax claims are bogus

By Meteor Blades
Thursday Nov 16, 2017 · 8:31 PM PST

Hillary (8:02 am, CST) White House MC 167°36′, 19th amendment Venus/Saturn midpoint 167°21.

Chelsea White House MC 161°10′, 19th Amendment Venus/Jupiter midpoint 160°45′.

A small and simple handheld device with the ability to detect skin cancer has just won the International James Dyson Award for the year.

Because cancerous skin tissue metabolizes more quickly than regular skin cells, the tissue regains heat faster than the rest of a person’s skin. So, when a patient’s skin is cooled down, the device can use heat sensors to detect the difference in temperature between quickly-metabolizing cancer cells and healthy cells.

The contraption, which is called the sKan, then creates a heat map of the skin’s varying temperatures that will indicate where the melanoma cells are.


An interesting article published today delves into the potential for a Iran-US war erupting soon after the pending December 13th abrogation of the Iran Nuclear deal. Although the author doesn’t get into the astrological specifics, the December 13th date interestingly enough has a retrograde Mercury/Sun conjunction at 21 Sagittarius. This will conjoin Pres. Trump’s natal Moon in opposition to his natal Sun/progressed Uranus degrees. Will Trump find the Iranian situation a convenient diversion away from the intensity of the Mueller investigation? Iran’s natal Pluto at 18 Libra will be experiencing an exact Pluto square in mid December. Nuclear issues could definitely be front and center at this point in time. Here’s the article…..

DATELINE: 16 November 2017
by John Hogue

Saudi War With Lebanon Imminent. War With Iran With US And Israeli Help Next?

(scroll down to the middle of the web page for the article)


Are Saudi Arabia And Iran About To Go To War?

November 6, 2017

Saudi Arabia and Iran’s battle for control over the Middle East reached a fever pitch this weekend with threats of warfare, prompting the world to wonder whether the two regional powers will wage an all-out war.

Iranian-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen launched a ballistic missile towards the Saudi capital, prompting Saudi Arabia to ratchet up the rhetoric against its real enemy in the proxy war.

“Iran’s role … in this matter constitutes a clear act of aggression that targets neighboring countries and threatens peace and security in the region and globally,” Saudi Arabia’s government said in a statement on Monday. “(Saudi Arabia) considers this a blatant act of military aggression by the Iranian regime, and could rise to be considered as an act of war.”



Saudi Arabia

September 23, 1932, 12:01 PM
Riyadh (Saudi Arabia)

Sun: 0°06′ Libra
Asc: 21°38′ Sagittarius

The December 21st Saturn/Sun conjunction (the Winter Solstice degree – 0 Capricorn) in semi-square to Jupiter (15 Scorpio) will be in square to Saudi Arabia’s natal Sun – 0 Libra………

Oil Could Top $200 If Saudi-Iran War Breaks Out

November 10, 2017

Events appear to be spinning out of control in the Middle East, and the threat a Saudi-Iranian war is looking increasingly credible. Make no mistake, an out and out conflict between the two nations would be an unmitigated disaster for the region and the world.

Last week, Houthi rebels in Yemen launched a missile targeting a Saudi airport near Riyadh. The missile was intercepted, but a Saudi-led military coalition battling the Yemeni rebels called the attack a “blatant military aggression by the Iranian regime which may amount to an act of war.” The Saudis reserved the “right to respond”, according to the official Saudi Press Agency.

The major OPEC oil producers, all abutting the Persian Gulf, export almost 20 percent of the world’s oil supply through the Strait of Hormuz, which connects the Persian Gulf to global markets. The strait, a mere 34 miles wide at its narrowest, sits pinched between Iran to the north and Oman to the south. Were a war between Saudi Arabia and Iran to erupt, this chokepoint could easily be closed.

Indeed, shipping could stop even before a single ship is damaged. If insurers perceive an imminent risk of attack on a tanker in the region, they would either suspend insurance or charge exorbitant rates for coverage. Under the circumstances, vessel owners could opt to wait out the hostilities rather than risk their tankers.



Interjecting a personal note about the centuries old persecution of women, who for no other reason other than women have been considered the “weaker sex.” This debilitating concept has no place in any society. Period. I’ve been subjected to it throughout life and unfairly. My first fight was standing up to my own father, the second was standing up to the president of a college institution and asking publicly why women were treated differently than their male counterparts. Only women had dorm hours and other such restrictions. Too, there were few female instructors. I never had a female instructor. It wasn’t an isolated situation. And, where I should have been promoted, I was not and eventually left what I once considered a promising career. Again, a story that has been far too common.

Current events represent a sea change of repression. There is a way to go, but it is rapidly changing. It needs to you.

An aspect of this community is the equality of it. Starlight News is a treasure because of it, and because of it a more thoughtful space. Thank you, Nancy and all of you who make it so.

Hey Kiwi! So glad to see your posts!

‘Time to Raise Hell’: Internet Defenders Mobilize as FCC Aims to Kill Net Neutrality Within Month
FCC chair Ajit Pai, warn critics, is aiming to “destroy the internet as we know it and give even more gatekeeper power to a few huge companies like AT&T, Comcast, and Verizon”





This could be your last chance to stop ISPs from messing up your Internet.
The FCC is about to announce a vote to slash net neutrality rules, allowing ISPs like Verizon to block apps, slow websites, and charge fees to control what you see & do online. Once they announce the vote, it’s hard to stop. But if we flood them with calls now, *Congress* can stop the vote.

the GOP tax cut bill for millionaires and billionaires condemns 13 million or more Americans to death ( slow or fast) slashing their healthcare access…….

“Trump’s tax plan proves yet again that he is a phony populist interested primarily in doing the bidding of big corporations and the super-rich,” CREDO Political Director Murshed Zaheed said. “And because Trump has broken decades of precedent by refusing to release his own tax returns, the American people still do not know how much Trump personally would benefit under the proposal,” Zaheed continued, adding, “Democrats in Congress must unanimously and forcefully reject this massive giveaway to multinational corporations and the rich.”

CREDO’s recent petition calling on Congress to “oppose Trump-Republican tax plans that give huge tax breaks to millionaires and wealthy corporations” has been signed by more than 87,000 people and counting.

Earlier this year, more than 210,000 CREDO members signed a petition calling on Congress not to consider any tax legislation until Trump has released his own tax returns.

CREDO Action, part of CREDO Mobile, is a social change network of over 5 million activists, sending millions of petition signatures and hundreds of thousands of phone calls to decision-makers each year. CREDO Action members also participate in meetings, protests and other direct action for progressive change.


Trump and his family could save more than $1 billion under House tax bill



According to analysis by the Center for American Progress based on Tax Policy Center data, 36 million working- and middle-class households would see a tax increase by 2027 under the House tax bill. Based on the latest version of the tax plan, 22.5 percent of tax units (tax parlance for households) in the bottom 80 percent of the income scale would see their taxes go up by 2027, at an average cost of a whopping $1,130 per family with a tax increase.

Hi Bob, initially confused about the 19th amendment date discrepancy between your newspaper report for the 26th, and what I understood from other sources – but this could explain it I guess – scroll down to ‘proposal and ratification.’ And commemoration.
Seems a definitive chart time/date might be difficult to pinpoint – note the wide variation of ratification dates from all the states, and delayed dates of mostly southern states (N Carolina 1971!)


“Is it your view that President Clinton should have stepped down at that time, given the allegations?” The New York Times asked (Sen.) Gillibrand for its podcast.

“Yes, I think that is the appropriate response,” Gillbrand said. “But I think things have changed today, and I think under those circumstances, there should be a very different reaction, and I think in light of this conversation, we should have a very different conversation about President Trump and a very different conversation about allegations against him.”

(Donald Trump has let the “genie” out of the lamp.) A very dangerous genie for men.

the sexual assault stories have become convenient media NOISE to distract the public from the God Awful GOP Tax cut bill

Good news – tax cut bill is unlikely to pass Senate because of Obamacare:


Greetings Jerry,

Re: $450 million for Salvatore Mundi DaVinci

The purchase epitomizes the soul-murdering greed that pervades the circles of the criminally-rich. The fact that the canvas portrays Christ makes the paint drip with hallucinatory hues of irony. A satisfying karmic comeuppance would be if the artwork was found to be a forgery; a probable cause for even the Baby Jesus to convulse with laughter.


So, $1.4 trillion is a lot of money. It’s what all of the NFL teams together are worth, and then some. It’s more than twice the Defense Department’s 2016 budget. It’s enough to buy nearly 3.2 million homes at the median U.S. home price right now.

It’s also roughly the amount that the proposed Republican tax overhaul would add to the deficit over 10 years — not even counting interest.

The bill being sold as a “middle-class” tax plan could increase taxes for a sizable chunk of middle- and lower-income Americans.

None of the numbers are final. The Senate will be making amendments to its bill soon, and then, both chambers would then have to conference to compromise on their two tax overhauls.

~ per NPR

Save Our Care


Alaska – Sav Our Care



FCC just voted to kick 70% of people off of their low income broadband plans

By Walter Einenkel
2017/11/17 · 11:08



Jessica Rosenworcel (born July 12, 1971) is an American lawyer who currently serves as a member of the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC). She originally served on the FCC from May 11, 2012, until January 3, 2017, and was confirmed by the United States Senate for an additional term on August 3, 2017.

Fairy Dropping It On The Senate



“Leser v. Garnett, 258 U.S. 130 (1922),[1] was a case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution had been constitutionally established.”

Madam Kiwi (said as I hook my thumbs behind my imaginary suspenders) may I direct your attention to the following statements taken from your link, to wit:

“Leser v. Garnett

The amendment’s validity was unanimously upheld in Leser v. Garnett, 258 U.S. 130 (1922).[28]

Oscar Leser sued to stop two women registered to vote in Baltimore, Maryland, because he believed that the Maryland Constitution limited the suffrage to men and the Maryland legislature had refused to vote to ratify the Nineteenth Amendment. Two months before, the federal government had proclaimed the amendment incorporated into the Constitution on August 26, 1920.[28]”

Regarding various state ratification dates:

“The Court replied that state ratification was a federal function which came from Article V of the Constitution and so is not subject to limitations by a state constitution.[28]”

I submit therefore that the Supreme Court of all the land determined that women’s right to vote was established when the proclamation was signed by the United States Secretary Of State, the Honorable Bainbridge Colby, on the twenty-sixth of August in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and twenty, foregoing the ratification date by the State of Tennessee.


“Colby Describes the Signing

“The package containing the certified record of the action of the Legislature of the State of Tennessee,” said Mr. Colby, “came in on a train which reached Washington some time during the early morning hours. I was awakened by Charles L. Cooke of the State Department at about a quarter to 4 o’clock this morning, who said that the packet from the Governor of Tennessee had arrived. I told him to bring it to me.”

Secretary Colby was then asked whether Mr. Cooke brought the packet to him forthwith.

“He brought it to me in about ten minutes,” replied the Secretary. “There were some legal matters connected with the ratification that I wished to have examined by the chief law officer of the State Department with instructions to bring the papers to me at my home at 8 o’clock this morning.”

“I confess to a disinclination to signing it in the wee morning hours of the night, believing that would not be conducive to a dignified function of so important a character, and thought that 8 o’clock in the morning would be a fair hour for action in the matter.”

And so on and so forth and therefore and because . . .

My alter ego is nuts!

I can find no place regarding the establishment of constitutional amendments requiring the signature of anyone over the ratification by 3/4ths of the states to become part of the Constitution.

Next Friday transiting Saturn will arrive at the degree where the Galactic Center (GC) sits, 27+ Sagittarius, and when that happens it could trigger manifestations of his present cycle with transiting Uranus.

Transiting Saturn and Uranus made the 3rd of 3 trines (cooperation) to each other earlier this month and that energy is still potent. Add to that, 27+ Sagittarius is where Saturn and Uranus made their 3rd conjunction (out of 3) on October 18, 1988. On that day the Sun (symbol of consciousness) in Libra was sextile the Saturn-Uranus conjunction in Sagittarius, to which today’s transiting Sedna in Taurus completes a Yod, also known as a Finger of God.

Sedna is part of a group of astrological goddesses presently seen as representing victimized women harrassed by powerful men. This delayed reaction Yod with Sedna at the apex (where change or adjustment takes place) is just one of several astrological patterns coming into fruition at this time.

Transiting Saturn who gives form to ideas, symbolized by Pallas who, at 29+ Aries trines Saturn and the GC and is just 4 degrees from transiting Uranus right now. This is no accident or coincidence.

Waiting for Saturn to arrive at 27+ Sagittarius and the GC are centaur Pholus (small cause, big effect), Arachne whose web ensnares the unsuspected, and Cupido with a quiver of arrows designed to muddle the mind of whomever is struck by one of them. All in the same degree!

If Saturn, transiting through the sign of Sagittarius, a sign that symbolizes “higher learning”, conjunct the Galactic Center which symbolizes a higher dimension of behavior and understanding, . .

. . . While also activating his cycle with Uranus, a cycle that has the Sun (consciousness) sextile Uranus and Saturn, thus forming a Yod with present-day Sedna who is trapped in lower-consciousness patriarchal symbolism that is being exposed to an ascending (human) consciousness . . .

. . Can we then see this in a positive light as progress of humanity’s development? Baby steps or giant steps forward, it is progress. Transiting Saturn has one month left in Jupiter’s sign of Sagittarius before entering his home sign of Capricorn. Next year in August and September he will come within arc minutes of an exact trine with transiting Uranus; this time in earth signs (reality) rather than fire (inspiration) signs.

It will follow an eclipse season that could produce tangible results (laws) from this new consciousness we are birthing in this period of transformation and evolution.

Thank you ja for your encouragement.


Pictures of Harry, his mother, the envelope and letter. Harry was a Republican.


“The Tennessee General Assembly voted to approve the 19th Amendment to the United State Constitution on August 18, 1920. Opponents worked feverishly to rescind the ratification vote on constitutional technicalities. Some anti-suffrage legislators even fled the state in an attempt to prevent a quorum in the General Assembly. Their efforts failed, and on August 24, 1920, Governor Albert H. Roberts certified Tennessee’s ratification of the 19th Amendment. Two days later, U. S. Secretary of State Bainbridge Colby issued a proclamation that officially declared the ratification of the 19th Amendment and made it part of the United States Constitution. Tennessee provided the 36th and final state needed to ratify this landmark amendment to the U.S. Constitution.”


“Nashville, Tennessee: August 18, 1920
In the hot and muggy month of August 1920, a national drama brought its final and perhaps most spectacular act to Nashville. . . .

The town teemed with reporters from New York, Chicago, Washington, and Boston. . . .

“With wilted collars and frayed nerves, the legislators squared off for the third roll call. A blatant red rose on his breast, Harry Burn–the youngest member of the legislature–suddenly broke the deadlock. Despite his red rose, he voted in favor of the bill and the house erupted into pandemonium. With his “yea,” Burn had delivered universal suffrage to all American women. The outraged opponents to the bill began chasing Representative Burn around the room. In order to escape the angry mob, Burn climbed out one of the third-floor windows of the Capitol. Making his way along a ledge, he was able to save himself by hiding in the Capitol attic.” ”

Director of the Tennessee State Museum said that the story about Burns climbing out of a window was probably apocryphal, and that little evidence of it was found in historical documents.

Hi Bob, as always, I bow to your superior knowledge, LOL

Hi Will,

Glad to see you back in circulation.

Re: The Da Vinci “Salvator Mundi (Savior of the World)” painting.

Not quite a forgery, but according to the following article, only 20 percent of the original Da Vinci painting remains visible………

Why A $450 Million Painting Attributed To Leonardo Da Vinci Worries Art Historians


Dear Lady,

Let not the manic rantings of my evil alter ego lead you down the garden path. As I confessed in my earlier humble missive strenuous efforts to discover a requirement for the signature of anyone for an amendment that had been ratified by the required three-fourths of the state legislatures to become part of the Constitution proved fruitless.

However, my earnest probing did find reference to signings by a member of the Tenessee House and the Governer of the Volunteer State before the package was forwarded to Washington, D.C. . (Perhaps only to secure their mention in the annals of history?)

Again, I vigorously implore you to be wary of any offerings by that blowhard lest you be caught up in his diabolical web, serving only as a tool for his self-aggrandizement, whilst I, your most obedient servant, being as pure as the driven snow and assuredly above reproach, seeks only to be the purveyor of truth and honesty for the betterment of humanity.

Yours, most humbly,

RGN (The Good One)

[trailing away . . . this handlebar moustache is such a bother – not in those words exactly]

In keeping with my forthrightness here is the missing n from Tennessee – n

Beowulfie, thank you so much for Walter Isaacson’s op Ed on Da Vinci. I am reading his book on same. Amazing, that even on IPad, the eyes follow me from the Salvador Mundi painting.

In one chart -all you need to know – Trump tax cuts


Bob I’m aghast that you were drop the n from Tennessee, then mollified that you found it.

Kudos to another pithy poster. Thanks for the chuckle, Will.

Alex, I believe we can all hold more than one thought. Women have multiple reasons to say “enough is enough.” And “yes” this blatant boot- or bu**-lick tax bill is evil personified, unlike Bob it doesn’t seem to have a good side. The twisted logic of grabbing cash from the poor, the retired, students and almost everyone else and giving it ungraciously to the already wealthy while spiking the debt is science fiction at its worst.

Oops and look at me instead of were it should be “would.” My excuse is that I’m merely a heathen.

Hi Guys,

About once a year, I mention here that in real life, I write books. Romances and some young adult fiction. And for the next few days, I have a box set of three books and a novella for only 99 cents. If you’d like something to read, it’s here: http://amzn.to/2jBfaiM

Don’t feel bad grabbing the books at that price. I still make money on the deal, because a certain number of people will go on to buy the entire series and then maybe another series and maybe some other books, too. So this is all good for me. (FYI — A lot of authors complain that free and really cheap books are ruining book sales for everyone. Sorry. Not true.) If anyone wants to talk about selling e-books, I’m always available to answer your questions.

Never would have made it through this year of Trump without books to distract me.

Today as the Sun and Moon at 26+ Scorpio started their new cycle they opposed Sedna at 26+ Taurus. This opposition is symbolic for all people all over the world, both men and women, all feeling that some part of themselves is under water and that part is resentful. All may feel this but not all are conscious of just what has been submerged, under water, out of sight.

The USA may be at an advantage since the US natal Pallas at 26+ Aquarius forms a T-square to the transiting opposition between Sedna and the Sun-Moon. This T-square assures that the US must address this submerged resentment, finding itself in the middle of the state of consciousness (full moon) and the somewhat unconscious state of feeling resentful (Sedna).

It is a moment in Time to heal and make whole one of the challenging aspects in the nation’s birth chart. I think it is the square between US Sun and US Saturn because the US Sun occupies the sign ruled by the US Moon. The US Pallas (26+ Aquarius) conjuncts the US Moon (27+ Aquarius).

In February there will be a solar eclipse that conjuncts the US Moon (+ Pallas) and it will be accompanied by transiting Mercury. This solar eclipse conjunct US Moon (symbolizing the People) and transiting Mercury suggests something hidden coming to light in the way of information or data.

This eclipse in February will have the transiting Mars (12+ Sagittarius) conjunction the US natal chart’s ascendant, the same degree where Pluto was on 9-11. Right now, at this New Moon opposite Sedna, transiting Mars and Pluto are square each other. Both are considered rulers of Scorpio, the sign where Sun and Moon are joined. They have much in common but differ in their objectives.

Also at the Feb. eclipse-conjunct-US Moon, transiting
Venus in Pisces will sextile transiting Saturn in Capricorn that, when combined with the US North and South nodes, creates a Boomerang that seems to suggest it’s time for some old (US) pattern of behavior to be eliminated. Nuclear bombs perhaps.

Although Sedna in Taurus squares US Moon in Aquarius and opposes the New Moon in Scorpio, she trines the US Pluto in Capricorn. That might suggest thoughts of simply blowing a country to smitherins – to the unconscious among us in the USA – in order to express their resentment (Sedna). However, transiting Uranus in Aries is still trine transiting Saturn in Sagittarius who is conjunct the Galactic Center; a kind of safety valve to guard against the recklessly impulsive among us.

Also, this new moon has transiting Venus (13+ Scorpio) in trine with US Sun (13+ Cancer) as a safeguard against volatile reactions. Better to plan (a function of Pallas) any Sedna-based resentment tactics when cooler heads prevail. Perhaps by next Spring things will look a lot different.

Bought your book series, Teresa, and looking forward to reading them. Thanks for the heads up.

A dramatic astrological phenomenon hits the Trump administration the morning of December 24th. A topic well worth discussing if anyone is interested. First a little background. Michael O Reilly of Neptune Cafe Astrology observes……

An Astrological View of the 2017 Inauguration

Using the traditional planets, the 2017 chart (set for noon) has some troublesome configurations along with a few beneficial ones. Joan Quigley would likely not be happy with this arrangement. No matter who gets elected in November, the next four years promise, in Quigley’s words, “an unfavorable outcome.”

The first challenge is that Mars at 24 Pisces is squaring Saturn at 23 Sagittarius, with an orb of less than one degree. It’s true that Mars is separating from this aspect, which might indicate that the trouble was in the recent past. However, any major transit or progression to this Mars-Saturn influence could unleash terrible conflict, either domestically or internationally.

In addition to the traditional planets, one could add the four major asteroids to clarify the picture. In the case of the Mars-Saturn square, Juno is conjunct Saturn, and Mars is applying to square Juno at 25º Sagittarius. So this makes a stressful, three-planet configuration. – End of Quote –


It’s important to add here there is an exact Moon-Mars sesquiquadrate embedded in this inaugural chart (no orb) at 9 ’21 Scorpio – 24 ‘ 21 Pisces. One astrologer, in an article entitled “The War Within: The Trump Presidency, 2017-2021” expresses the opinion that the harsh Moon-Mars aspect in this chart in theory relates to women’s issues. The author further goes on to say that the dynamic set in motion with this configuration at the time of the inauguration could inflame tensions not seen since the US Civil War.

As alluded to earlier, the morning of December 24th has an exact Mars-Chiron sesquiqudrate (9 ’29 Scorpio – 24 ’29 Pisces) in precise conjunction to the Moon-Mars sesquiquadrate of the Jan 20th US inaugural chart. I can’t imagine a more powerful stimulus in activating the US Inaugural Mars-Saturn square.

What immediately comes to mind is the current media spotlight on the sexual exploitation of women among the powerful elite. Could Trump find himself caught up in this explosive debacle? Could he be brought down by overwhelming incriminating evidence in the latter part of December? Anything’s possible.

The article I’m referring to was published in the March 2017 edition of ISAR (The International Society for Astrological Research). Here are the highlights……

The War Within: The Trump Presidency, 2017-2021

There are wars in life that we cannot avoid, and wars that we do well to avoid. Some of these wars must be won with weapons and others can only won with the steadying of the breath, mind, and heart. Men and women incapable or uncomfortable with the latter are invariably the primary instigators of the former, of the wars that for millennia have needlessly laid our civilizations to waste. As fate would have it, on November 8, 2016, the increasingly unhinged passions of us all, aided by the convoluted electoral system mandated by our ancient constitution, set into motion a crisis unlike any we have known in over 150 years. If we hope to survive this crisis intact “we the people of the United States” will surely require every ounce of emotional equilibrium, sound political thinking, blessed historical memory, and prescient vision that we can collectively muster. Introduction American presidents in the modern era take the Oath of Office on the 20th day of January, at approximately 12:00 noon. It is the considered opinion of this research astrologer that a chart set for this precise moment in time tends to roughly describe the tenor of the incoming administration and the nature of the challenges and opportunities that it will be asked to confront or embrace. A chart set for noon on January 20th, 2017 strongly suggests that the emotions of the American people during this four-year period are likely to be dramatically inflamed, much like they were from 1861 to 1865, the last four-year period within which the aspect-angular configuration between Moon and Mars in our current inaugural moment was last present.

This is not to suggest that the previous manifestation of 1861-65 is inevitable, but only that the cosmic setup is eerily similar – and that these inflamed passions will thus need to be contained, defused, redirected, or transformed in one fashion or another, lest another ruinous conflagration erupt. The parallels between 1861 and 2017 are increasingly eerie.

………..As originally cited in “Take Care of this House”, my 2012 inaugural preview (hereafter referred to as TCOTH), a ‘hard Moon-Mars aspect has been present in 18 previous inaugural moments (including the recent 2013 moment that fueled the populist energy behind both the Sanders and Trump campaigns, and climaxed with Trump’s unlikely victory). The presence of this aspect in an inaugural moment tends to indicate a four year period in which ‘the people’ become extremely aroused, angry, or upset in response to some domestic or international development. Excluding the 2013 instance, the 6 previous tightest instances of this aspect correlated with the natural death in office of Presidents William Henry Harrison and Zachary Taylor, the onset and culmination of the American Civil War (including the attack on Ft. Sumter, the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, the impeachment of Andrew Johnson, and the onset of Congressional Reconstruction), America’s sudden entry into WWI, and the Wall Street crash of 1929 and subsequent Great Depression. The inaugural Moon-Mars aspect for precisely 12 noon on January 20th, 2017 would be virtually exact, and thus one of the two tightest instances of a Moon-Mars aspect in American history. The Moon has been both angular and positioned slightly below the Descendant, the same placement as in our current inaugural moment, on three previous occasions, each of them extraordinarily fateful: 1861, 1929, and 1941. The 1929 moment is, of course, associated with the Presidency of Herbert Hoover, and the onset of the Great Depression, and the 1941 moment with FDR and the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and subsequent US entry into the Second World War. I submit that in each of these moments the passions of the American people had become extraordinarily aroused and engaged.

As also highlighted in my previous inaugural studies, OTP and TCOTH, Moon-Mars aspects also tend to indicate periods when women’s issues are highlighted. This is archetypically appropriate inasmuch as the Moon symbolizes ‘the feminine’ principle in an astrological chart, with the Sun symbolizing ‘the masculine’; and it Was during Woodrow Wilson’s two terms in office, both terms that commenced with tight Moon-Mars aspects in the inaugural moments, that the suffragette movement fully gathered steam, with women forcefully demanding and winning the right to vote. The placement of Moon on the Descendant in Scorpio, sesquiquadrate Mars, semi-square Saturn, sextile Mercury, and trine Neptune, in our incoming inaugural map suggests a stubborn, emotionally-impelled public closely following events in Washington, firmly committed to a struggle for some great religious, spiritual or philosophical goal, and absolutely prepared to “pay any price, bear any burden” to see this goal accomplished. I submit with great sadness that this could easily describe a return to ‘the killer angels’ of that earlier era – although the symbolism could equally describe the non-violent heroism of Mohandas Gandhi’s Satyagraha movement in South Africa and India and Martin Luther King’s Civil Rights movement in America. We have a choice of how this symbolism is enacted during this period – and my advice is that we choose wisely, given the strong likelihood that our President-elect will not.



PS The combined 2017 US Inaugural Chart/ December 24th transits can be reviewed here….


Also forgot to mention……. transiting Mars at this juncture (Dec 24th) is within a half degree of squaring Pres. Trump’s natal Pluto (10 Leo)


Hope you enjoy them.

Anne Ortelee on the New Moon:

“You are powerful — especially today. As I have written in previous columns, this New Moon marks the true inauguration of the year-long Jupiter-in-Scorpio cycle. For the past five weeks, we’ve been wrapping up the remnants of our journey with Jupiter-in-Libra. Now the new work begins. What do you want to make next?

“Jupiter in Scorpio asks us to commit and merge on a deep level. What are you pledging your being to?”

Ah, the truth will out. Seen on DU:

“Alabama pastor supporting Moore: ‘More women are sexual predators than men’ ”

When will the scores, nae, the legions of victims come forward?

Why am I always among the last to find these things out? I scour the internet every day trying to keep informed.

Toy boys or boy toys?

Oh, Teresa…I hope so. I have Scorpio Rising.
This made me laugh…In case you missed it:
Sat Night Live:
“Every Night I turn the TV on and cry”…

Jerry, If Republican’s go this haywire to objection of Slimy Roy Moore, just imagine their reaction to a Trump Impeachment….No, I see all out war!

The Hidden History of Trump’s First Trip to Moscow
In 1987, a young real estate developer traveled to the Soviet Union. The KGB almost certainly made the trip happen:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842Trump's first visit to Soviet Moscow in 1987 looks, with hindsight, to be part of a pattern.


Fed-up NJ husband, father and healthcare professional blasts GOP Congressman—right to his face

By Leslie Salzillo
2017/11/19 · 07:51

continued –


Republican Gets Destroyed During Townhall Over Trumpcare Tom MacArthur Get Exposed By Medical Doctor

continued –


Rep. Tom MacArthur

Thomas Charles MacArthur
October 16, 1960
Hebron, Connecticut

On April 25, 2017, MacArthur introduced an amendment to the Act which became known as the MacArthur Amendment. It permits states to waive out of Obamacare’s ban on pre-existing conditions, allowing insurers to charge sick people higher premiums than healthy people. It also dictates that health insurance offered to members of Congress and their staffs not be included in the exemption from covering pre-existing conditions.

A Washington Post-ABC News poll conducted in April 2017, found that 70 per cent of Americans favored protections for pre-existing conditions.

In response to MacArthur’s vote to pass the AHCA, which would partially repeal and replace Obamacare, there were protests in his district, and difficult Town Halls with constituents questioning MacArthur about his vote. A widely reported comment at one of his Town Hall meeting was from Geoff Ginter, a health professional, who called MacArthur the “single greatest threat” to his family, citing his concerns about his wife and daughters who have preexisting conditions that may affect their health coverage under the AHCA.

MacArthur resigned as chair of the Tuesday Group in May 2017 due to disagreements among its members over the AHCA.

If the Senate Republicans’ latest version of their tax overhaul bill passes, foreign investors will receive a financial benefit nearly three times larger than all U.S. taxpayers combined, according to a new analysis released Saturday.

“By 2027,” the anlysis states, “foreign investors would benefit more than American households overall under the bill as written. While some households would pay more and others would pay less, in 2027 the average net effect for U.S. households would be a tax cut of $8 billion, which is much smaller than the $22 billion benefit to foreign investors.”


According to reliable sources Obstruction of Justice charges against Pres. Trump may be nearing completion. Key pivotal witness Hope Hicks is about to testify which could alter the entire political landscape in the next couple of weeks…..

White House Communications Director Hope Hicks

DOB October 21, 1988 Greenwich Conn.

Key natal aspects in natal chart – a nearly exact Saturn/Uranus conjunction at 27 ’51 Sagittarius in sextile to natal Sun 27 Libra. Natal Mars – 0 Aries

The December 18th New Moon – 26 ’31 Sag conjoins Hope Hicks Saturn/Uranus conj. and tr. Saturn at 29 ’46 Sag closing in on its square to Hicks natal Mars – 0 Aries.

Mueller May Be Close To Wrapping Up A Significant Part of the Russia Investigation

Business Insider
November 20, 2017

* Special counsel Robert Mueller is getting ready to interview Hope Hicks, the White House communications director and one of President Donald Trump’s closest aides.

* Hicks was present during several moments leading up to Trump’s decision to fire FBI director James Comey.

* Comey’s firing makes up the basis of an obstruction-of-justice case Mueller is building against Trump, and experts say that if Mueller is ready to interview one of Trump’s key advisers about it, the case is nearing its conclusion.



Hope Hicks May Hold The Keys To Mueller’s Russia Puzzle

Prosecutors will interview the White House communications director in the coming weeks as they continue questioning those in the president’s inner circle.

November 16, 2017

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team is preparing to interview the woman who’s seen it all: Hope Hicks.

She’s been part of Donald Trump’s inner circle for years, first at Trump Tower and then as an omnipresent gatekeeper and fixer who could get emails or other communications directly to the boss during the 2016 campaign.

As a senior White House adviser and now as communications director, she’s been in the room for moments critical to Mueller’s probe, which has grown to include the president’s response to the Russia investigation itself.

Hicks’ history with Trump makes her one of the more useful witnesses for Mueller as he looks for insights into the president’s habits and moods. She also is one of the few people well positioned to recount the president’s reactions at various moments as the Russia scandal has sidetracked his presidency — including the Mueller appointment itself.

Mueller’s decision to request an interview with Hicks — who hasn’t been named in any criminal wrongdoing — also indicates he’s reached a critical point in the overall investigation, according to former prosecutors and veterans of past White House investigations. Typically, conversations with such senior-level aides are saved for near the end of a probe.

“Anytime you can get someone who is the right-hand person or who’s been around the primary target of an investigation, under oath, answering detailed questions, means you’ve progressed very far along in the investigation,” said Adam Goldberg, a former Clinton White House lawyer.

White House attorney Ty Cobb wouldn’t say specifically when Hicks planned to appear before Mueller’s team, though he did say he was “bullish” that all current White House aides, including Hicks, will have completed interviews with the special counsel “shortly after Thanksgiving.”



Thank you very much, Jerry, for your post (Nov 19, 8:07am), with the excerpts from the ISAR article by Matthew Carnicelli (another link to the article, with charts included, is below). The entire (lengthy) article is definitely worth the time to read – highly recommended!


Thank you very much, Jerry, for your post (Nov 19, 8:07am), with the excerpts from the ISAR article by Matthew Carnicelli (another link to the article, with charts included, is below). The entire (lengthy) article is definitely worth the time to read – highly recommended!


Here are links to Matthew Carnicelli’s sites:



Charles Manson dead at 83

Born November 12, 1934 Cincinnati, Ohio

Died November 19, 2017 Bakersfield, California

I can’t forget Charles Manson and claimed his mother was a prostitute. If true such a start in life laid the foundation for his lack of compassion for life.

40 years of tax payer supported prison term.

DT has little redeemable value. He got in a tweet fight with one of the parents of the baskeball players caught stealing who he took credit from keeping him from prison. Unspeakable ” I should of left them in jail.” He didn’t do anything else, and that small act could’ve made him presidential. Another lost opportunity.


The PDF file version of that article with enclosed astrological charts reads more easily. Thanks.

The women issues in Trump’s life as it relates to that harsh Moon-Mars aspect in the 2017 US Inaugural chart could in part relate to Hope Hicks. She was after all rumored to be Trump’s girl friend. To be fair, there is no corroborating evidence to support that rumor, but as the following article explains, the clues are very much in line with Trump’s behavior and habits….

17 Theories & Facts About Hope Hicks, Her BIG White House Job & Rumors She’s Actually Donald Trump’s Girlfriend

Your Tango.com
Sept 19, 2017

In today’s segment of “news I could have predicted from a mile away,” President Donald Trump is rumored to have a girlfriend.

I know, I know. You’re as shocked as I.

But if you take into consideration the heavy amount of awkwardness that exists between Trump and his wife, Melania Trump, her rumored boyfriend and his rise to the oval office, it’s not that hard to believe.

Trump is doing what most in power usually do.

They hire young, beautiful girls with zero experience and then are baffled when people think they’re probably at least trying to sleep with them.

This is Hope Hicks, the president’s longest serving political aide and the former White House Director of Strategic Communications who recently replaced Anthony Scaramucci as the White House Communications DIrector.



And then there is the femme fatale element to the story……

Will Hope Hicks Bring Down Donald Trump? Robert Mueller To Grill Longtime Aide Rumored To Know Trump’s Secrets

Nov 13, 2017

Hope Hicks, a 28-year-old former model and member of the Donald Trump inner circle — who is so close to him that she is known among his associates as “The Trump Whisperer” — is likely to undergo a grilling by Russia investigation special counsel Robert Mueller this week, a prospect reported to worry the White House due to the potential damage Hicks could cause by revealing some of Trump’s deepest secrets.

In particular, Mueller is expected to quiz Hicks, who rarely speaks in public despite her current title as White House communications director, about why she stated on November 11 of 2016 — just three days after the presidential election — that no one in the Trump campaign had any contact with Russian officials or representatives.

“It never happened,” Hicks said at the time. “There was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign.”

But not only has her statement been repeatedly shown to be false as numerous meetings between Russian officials and Trump campaign staff and advisers have been revealed and acknowledged by Trump campaign members, but Hicks herself received email from campaign foreign policy adviser Carter Page informing her of his trip to Russia in the summer of 2016 — a trip on which page according to his own congressional testimony met with Russian business leaders and officials.



After reading the Carnicelli article noted in Jerry’s/my posts above, I would like to say his interpretation of the Trump inaugural chart, as it compares to Lincoln’s inaugural, is pretty harsh. While he is right to make comparisons and parallels, I think they really are not the same charts at all and I don’t think they indicate similar outcomes. The Trump inaugural chart may be alarming, but I don’t see it to be as drastic or acting in the same spheres, compared to Lincoln’s which brought the US to Civil War.

Here’s my take. It’s true, there is a separating sesquiquadrate aspect* in both charts and in both cases the inaugural charts must be the crystalization of past events and issues in the nation that lead to the election result. However, the Lincoln aspects are much more powerful.

(*Aspect of 135 degrees, indicating friction, but not necessarily coming to resolution or timely action – Brady gives its key principle to be “frustration of action that eventually leads to delayed achievement”).

The Lincoln Moon is in the the 6th house of jobs, workers and health in 135 degree aspect to a conjunction of Mars/Pluto in the 11th house of associates/colleagues. Certainly in the Civil War, the health of the people was severely affected. The Trump Moon is in the 6th house too, in the same aspect, 135 degrees, to Mars/Chiron in the 11th. But it’s more complicated than that.

In Lincoln’s chart, the ruler of Mars/Pluto in Taurus is Venus in Aquarius in the 9th (legal judgments, laws), ruled in turn by Uranus in the 12th (house of slavery) in Gemini.

In Trump’s chart, the ruler of Mars in Pisces is Jupiter/Neptune. Jupiter is found in the 6th house, in Libra, together with the Moon (in Scorpio). Neptune is found in the 11th house, in Pisces, together with Mars and Venus.

In Lincoln’s chart, Mars/Pluto are in Taurus in the 11th, and both planets rule the 6th house of jobs, co-workers and health (cusp Scorpio/ Sagittarius) where the Moon is found in Sagittarius. Mars as ruler of Aries also rules the last part of the 10th (Lincoln was a war President) and Aries is on the cusp of the 11th of colleagues and political associates.

In Trump’s chart, Mars is in Pisces in the 11th (same house as Lincoln) and rules part of the 6th house (cusp Virgo/ Libra/ Scorpio) where the Moon is found in Scorpio. Mars as ruler of Scorpio rules the cusp of the 7th / Descendant of open enemies and partners. Mars as ruler of Aries also is part ruler (intercepted) of the 12th house (Pisces/ Aries/ Taurus) of secret enemies. Pluto, the co-ruler of Scorpio, also rules the 7th and it is found in Capricorn in the 9th of legal judgments, sextile to Venus in the 11th. (The sextile to Venus from the 11th of political associates may give Trump some breaks in those legal matters, I fear.)

In both charts, Uranus is found in the 12th of secret enemies, government, institutions (and slavery).

Lincoln’s Mars/Pluto is trine Saturn in Virgo, in the 3rd house of (dis)agreements and contracts. Mars/Pluto are also conjunct Pallas/Athena, the war goddess.

Trump’s Mars is conjunct Venus in Pisces in the 11th of professional associates and applying to square Saturn in Sagittarius, in the 8th house of other people’s money (likely foreign money since it is in Sag). This fits nicely with Trump’s Russia and finance problem, not so much with war. Quite possibly, as Mr. Carnicelli points out, this could lead to a financial crisis.

The influences may seem similar on the surface because the Mars and Moon placements happen to be in the same houses (both noon charts), but there is a world of difference between Mars/Pluto residing in an earth sign like Taurus, versus Mars alone in a water sign like Pisces. Also, a fiery Sag. Moon, applying to a cardinal, earthy Capricorn Descendant (Lincoln) is very different than an emotional Scorpio Moon, applying to a Scorpio Descendant. More concrete action is implied in the Lincoln chart. More back-room dealing is implied in Trump’s. In my hindsight, there is a war-oriented emphasis in Lincoln’s chart, while Trump’s fits better with media, disputes and deception (lies), money, etc., as we find in the daily news. Most importantly, there is a big difference in the weight of the Mars aspects – Mars/Pluto can take you to war, but Mars/Chiron is more apt to blow up in your own face.

Hope Hicks:


Hi Beowulfie,

I have to say, that’s quite an impressive, comprehensive analysis you presented there. Admittedly, I kind of got lost in the technicalities on certain points, but I understood the basic premise. The Mars/Pluto conj (3 and a half degree orb) in the Lincoln Inaugural chart appears to be much more intense and powerful in comparison to the Trump Inaugural chart.

However, regarding the Trump Inauag, chart, one important factor you inadvertently left out. It’s not exclusively the Moon-Mars/Chiron sesquiquadrate per se. Saturn is also involved at 45/135 angles.

As mentioned earlier, the potential is there for the December 24th aspects to activate the US Inaugural Mars-Saturn square. Since Trump’s natal Pluto is right at the epicenter of this configuration, dramatic events could manifest. It’s only a month away. Should be interesting to see how this unfolds.

Paul Ryan has successfully duped the media establishment into believing he’s some kind of policy wonk. For evidence of his fraud, one need look no further than House Republicans’ so-called tax reform bill, which appears as slapdash, ill-conceived and just plain cruel as the GOP’s attempts to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act.

`per Paul Krugman

Beowulfie, My apologies. Unless I am mistaken, you did in fact mention the applying Mars- Saturn square in your analysis at one point, but no references to it were made in regards to the moon-mars sesquiquadrate.

“What this tax reform bill is about—absolutly and insanely,” he continued, “is repealing the estate tax; a $265 billion tax break, not for the top 1% but for the top 0.2%—a handful of the wealthiest families in this country, like the Walton family and the Koch brothers.” All of this, Sanders concluded, as the Republicans willingly explode the annual deficit by $1.5 trillion in order to later argue that Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid must be cut. “This is what [Speaker of the House] Paul Ryan is saying. They’re gonna come back with massive cuts [to those programs], because they say, ‘Oh my goodness, the deficit and the national debt are too high.’ This is a terrible, terrible piece of legislation and it must be defeated.”


Thanks Jerry, and yes it kind of has a laundry list of the aspects and rulers that is hard to read without tracing through the chart, so too technical that way. What it did do, for me, as I worked through it was show how similar the charts are on the one hand but how different on the other. Same houses, same planets key involved, but the emphasis is not the same. And there’s so much more to look at.

The thing I’m still puzzling over is the huge Scorpio/Mars influence.

In Lincoln’s chart, both Scorpio rulers, Mars and Pluto are in the same house, 11th, and Scorpio is on the 6th of the common people (workers). Mars, as Aries ruler, is also at the Midheaven.

Also, Lincoln’s 4th house, the land, territory etc., is in Virgo (it was an agricultural, resource based economy then). The 4th is ruled by Mercury in the 10th, which has just gone into Aries at 0 degrees, a critical degree ruled by Mars, conjunct Neptune dragging behind (for a long time) at 28 Pisces. Mars is the dispositor of Mercury.

So, as the article says, war might have been avoided in the 1860’s, but you can sure see the possibility of it in the Lincoln inaugural chart.

Trump’s chart might have war too, but what kind? Will it be a political war, a shooting war, an economic one, a war or propaganda/media, or all of them?

The Moon rules Cancer, which on the 4th house of the land/territory and the Moon is in Scorpio. The thing about Scorpio is that it’s all underwater. The Moon is sitting (as with Lincoln, but his was in Sagittarius). Moon on the Descendant, influences the 7th house of open enemies and, just as importantly, partners.

There is a dissipation of energies in Trump’s chart –
Mars and Pluto are in different signs, Pisces and Capricorn, and residing in different houses, the 11th and 9th houses. Their energies are not focused as in Lincoln’s chart. Mars in Pisces is discussed above. Pluto at 17 Cap is exactly sextile Venus in Pisces, which makes the Pluto seem a lot more personal.

The Sun in Lincoln’s chart is right at the Midheaven (noon), at 14 Pisces. The Pisces Sun is ruled by Jupiter, the planet of expansion and benefits, in Leo, the sign of rulership, in the 3rd. Neptune is also in Pisces with the Sun. The Sun’s authority is well into the sign and established in its prominent position.

The Sun in Trump’s chart, on the other hand, while also right at the MC, is at 0 Aquarius, ruled by Uranus, the disruptor, in Aries in the 12th, which takes us back to Mars as ruler again and hidden matters. So what is Uranus disrupting? Surely it must include the 10th of the Sun’s own authority, especially since the Sun is at the critical 0 degree. It doesn’t know what it’s going to do or who to! The Sun is a loner, though it has one minor aspect with Venus. It looks more likely to be Trump fighting for whatever, and the 11th house (politics) is where all the real action is, with so many planets there. But you can’t exclude other kinds of war either…..the chart is certainly confusing!

Charles Manson died yesterday and I wondered if there was some astrological indication of it in Saturday’s new moon chart or the US natal chart. Manson was the leader of a “family” who committed horrendous murders in Hollywood (Sharon Tate et al) back in the late ’60’s.

At the time Uranus and Pluto were conjunct (3 times from Oct. ’65 through June ’66) at 16-17 Virgo (degrees which the present transiting Pluto trines) they were sextile Neptune in Scorpio. Right now trans. Pluto is starting to sextile that region of Scorpio. Trans. Pluto is also opposite the degree where he himself was discovered in 1930.

Based on the numerous transformative happenings we are experiencing now, it would seem that Pluto might be (in his unrefined way) pushing us to look back to the ’60’s. Things like how Vietnam affected the world (see the PBS series on this topic), the assignation of Pres. Kennedy, etc., made it a hellish period in history. Oppositions are opportunities to look back at how far one has come – to reflect. It seems logical that Pluto’s opposition to his discovery degree could be a bit hellish for many of us.

Keeping with the Pluto theme, transiting asteroid Hekate is now conjunct the US natal North Node, a symbol of the path forward and opportunities to get on it. Hekate has several symbolisms, one of which is the waning moon or the crone (wise old woman) phase and she played an important role in Ceres’ discovery of how Pluto had stolen her daughter Persephone.

The New Moon this past Saturday was in Scorpio, the sign of hidden secrets and deep feelings, and where Neptune was when sextile the conjunctions of Pluto and Uranus in the ’60’s. It’s the sign ruled by Pluto and Mars, and where transiting Jupiter and Venus (the 2 Benefics) are right now. We are being asked to look for secrets and feel deeply now and Jupiter + Venus will make it easier; even rewarding I believe.

It seems then that the death (a Pluto/Scorpio thing) of Charles Manson is itself a symbol and as well, a reminder and a reflection of the ’60’s meant to promote understanding that life is cyclical; that what seems horrible in the “Now” will, in time, become harmless, even forgotten.

We must take advantage of this moment when the old crone Hekate provides us with wisdom and puts us (the USA) on a path that leads to opportunity and away from repeating past mistakes. This too shall pass.

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Thoroughly enjoy the scholarly astrology comparisons. I have a question regarding sometimes conflicting explanations of planetary influence. My sense is that there are refining factors yet discovered, such as the influence of Jupiter or Saturn’s respective moons.

Barb, I too felt there was symbolism at work regarding Manson’s death. I’d like to believe it was the death of such evil, but that’s simplistic and naive.

Dreamed you gave us a new post, Nancy, including a new word you had coined; a word I do not recall this morning. Interesting.

Actually Karen, some astrological messages ARE simplistic, direct and so very to the point that there can be no doubt as to what it means. At this time the sign of Scorpio is being spotlighted, a sign that is very straight-forward and rarely subtle in its meaning. Sex, death and taxes; this is what I was first taught about Scorpio’s meaning.

When something urgently needs to be dealt with there is almost always a strong emotional element that pervades the moment of dealing. Scorpio provide that element. Nothing superficial about Scorpio; hidden yes but not superficial. I believe Manson’s death is a way of grabbing those of us old enough to have memories of his deeds in order to prepare us for what’s to come.

Jupiter’s year-long transit through Scorpio will activate long dormant feelings, perhaps in order to balance out the emphasis on mental or physical pursuits that have drained our energy reservoirs to the point we can’t feel much anymore.

Whatever the reason, the ability to be able to “feel” seems to be imperative at this juncture. Something Manson appeared to be missing.

The coming exact trine between Neptune and Jupiter suggests that Feeling, Intuition and Sensitivity will be available to us in the coming days. On a program on MSNBC this AM there was no commercial break for the first 23 minutes as a conversation between men and women discussing the sexual misconduct of powerful and/or influential and/or famous men took place. It was that riveting.

As we move through this process of balancing, of moving back from extreme polarities, look for signs of cooperation and sensitivity to one another’s feelings on various subjects. It will be a sign that we are evolving.

Been thinking more about Moore, women, Alabama, civil rights, and it occurs to me that there may be a pattern/s worth investigating. Alabama was the crucible of the 60’s civil rights legislation, and perhaps Alabama will be the crucible of the new way women’s voices are heard and legislation changed? Or the holy rollers discredited for the cult they have become?
Cannot find a chart for Alabama on astro.com, but did find a date on astrotheme: Dec 14 1819 – 2.14pm Huntsville, which was where the state convention was held and statehood gained. Montgomery the current capital was incorporated Dec 3 1819.
The Hunstville date gives a scorpio moon, the Montgomery date gives a cancer moon, but both have a chiron, Saturn, pluto conjunction at 24-25 pisces which is where chiron is currently.
It also has sun,uranus,neptune grouped at 22-28 sag, which are all being affected currently by Saturn.
Would welcome more thoughts on how Alabama might be pivotal for the nation’s evolution going forward.

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ICYMI, Kevin Drum at Mother Jones pointed at something that once would have been unthinkable. Donald Trump’s Response to Disaster Aid for California: Nothing

A few weeks ago, California requested $7.4 billion in disaster aid following the massive series of wildfires in the northern part of the state that killed 43 people and destroyed nearly 9,000 structures. Actually, let’s back up. That’s not quite accurate. California’s Democratic governor, its two Democratic senators, and its 39 Democratic members of Congress asked for $7.4 billion. With only one exception, California’s Republican delegation boycotted a request for disaster funding for their own state.


kiwi, your ideas about AL’s chart are definitely worth examining.

Posting this Marjorie Orr article on Roy Moore again down thread in case it wasn’t posted earlier:

“At the election on December 12th Moore has nothing much noteworthy on his chart (with no birth time), apart from tr Jupiter in hard aspect to his Mars opposition Pluto, which might give him a slight lift or let loose a blast of pure rage. His opponent Doug Jones will be on a lucky roll come December with tr Uranus square his Jupiter/Pluto midpoint; and his life is certainly due for a radical change come 2018.

Moore will face one setback after another from Saturn’s entry into Capricorn on December 21 as it hits his Jupiter/Saturn midpoint (often career losses) and then damp his enthusiasm through 2018 hitting on two Jupiter midpoints; and even more punishing tr Pluto square his Sun/Saturn from February 2018 onwards till late 2019 which is immensely discouraging and can accompany illness.”

Looks like he’s in for a downfall…more here:


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