25th Dec, 2016

A Dangerous Holiday Season

It has been an especially lethal and tumultuous week in the world, from the assassination of the Russian ambassador in Turkey, to the terrorist attacks in Berlin and Jordan, the explosion at a fireworks factory in Mexico, the hijacking of a Libyan plane, and the crash of a Russian military jet.  Not to be outdone in contributing to this increasingly dangerous instability, Donald Trump cavalierly tweeted about expanding America’s nuclear arsenal, freaking out just about everyone.

Much of this added stress can be attributed to the first crossing of the Jupiter/Uranus opposition, which builds in strength from December 18 through December 26, dissipating thereafter. This aspect is likely to still have enough impact to be triggered by the Moon square to both planets late on December 29 through the very early hours of December 30, suggesting a final wave of unexpected, potent, and transformative events. The transit of Mars from December 29 to December 31 in an opposition to the October 1 solar eclipse point (9Virgo21) and square to US Uranus (8Gemini55) also suggests violent and turbulent events in that period. Moreover, the Saturn transit opposite US Mars (21Gemini23) from December 25 to January 1 and square to US Neptune (22Virgo25) from January 2 to January 11 points to significant circumstances that will directly and adversely impact the US.

The president-elect is also currently under some difficult and emotionally upsetting aspects, with transiting Saturn conjunct his Moon (21Sagittiarus 12) from December 21 to December 30. There is news of him shuttering the Trump foundation and closing development deals in order to avoid the impending conflict of interest controversies once he is sworn in.  Given the planets, this is no doubt very distressing for him. He is also likely very disturbed by the US abstaining from the vote at the UN condemning Israeli settlements, an action which clearly and directly ignored his imperious demands on the issue. As we all know, he does not like to be thwarted.

Frustrations and difficulties will continue for Trump when transiting Saturn moves to oppose his Sun (22Gemini56) from January 7 to January 15. Whether the issues that will surface at this time are the same as those implied by the Saturn square to US Neptune that impacts the US or whether they will simply run parallel is yet to be determined.

After Trump has become president, however, these Saturn aspects – conjunct his Moon, opposite his Sun, opposite US Mars, and square US Neptune – will return in greater strength, from June 24 to October 12, 2017.  This three and a half month period will very likely be extremely stressful, complicated, and troublesome for the country and its new president. We may get some hints as to how this will play out during the next few weeks. We can also assume that the first week of September 2017 will be particularly disruptive and unsettling due to the very strong triggering of the August 21 solar eclipse point (28Leo53).

As for the next crossing of the Jupiter/Uranus opposition, we can again anticipate a series of wild, transformative, and unexpected circumstances, from February 20 to March 3, with the most dangerous being from February 25 to February 27 when transiting Mars conjunct transiting Uranus opposes transiting Jupiter.  During the leadership of President Obama, I always felt I could trust my president to respond to the inevitable crises of the world with a thoughtful, deliberative approach, one that took into account the consequences that various actions might create. This will no longer be the case after January 20.


I also want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and a Happy New Year. I hope you all have warm and wonderful celebrations with those close to you despite the crazy that is hanging over us in the nation and the world.

Another piece of Trump’s Saturn transit to his Moon, reposted from Jerry on previous thread:


I just noticed a Moon/ Mars square through tomorrow (12/26) afternoon (EST) that will be in minor hard aspect to the Jupiter/Uranus opposition (20 cardinal to 5 mutable). Watch for explosive events tomorrow afternoon. Not good that Saturn is now opposite US Mars. This one could impact the US more directly.

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and Happy New Year to you too, Starlight! Thank you for the warnings — much needed in order to navigate the next week especially. I too will miss PBO’s steady hand at the helm and his ability to steer us through rough waters like a real leader will do. I’m still hoping there will be some revelation which undermines Trump’s presidency and possibly prevents it from occurring. The US and the world will suffer so from the man’s limited grasp of everything but money, and with all his bankruptcies, that too is suspect. Thank you for generously providing us with your wisdom and with this very informative platform of ideas!


Thank you for the heads-up. I woke up this morning with an overwhelming wave of horrifying dread and depression. It seems to have come “out of the blue.” The only other time I had it upon waking was moments before the Space-Shuttle Columbia disaster. It took me a couple cups of Joe and hours to come out from under it.

Hope it was nothing more than my own, personal bad morning.

Happy Holidays to you, Nancy – and to all fellow Starlighters.

Woke up feeling the same way, Will. Must be an Aries Point Sun thing.


Nurses Call on Senate to Reject Tom Price as HHS Secretary Policies Would ‘Substantially Erode Our Nation’s Health and Security’


We share a challenging point, don’t we? May your Christmas funk dissipate post haste.

After a deep meditation, I am out from under this unwanted “stocking full of coal.”

Great Protection upon us all.

Am I psychic? Somehow, Nancy, I knew you would be giving us a new article, for which I am very grateful. ? And may I add my wishes to all for a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and a Happy New Year.

As for the New Year part, let’s all do our best to see that it is happier than we might have anticipated. We can begin by not kowtowing to fear. Blessings all.


Uranus opposite Jupiter

Merry Christmas Nancy and thanks for the new thread, new thoughts. Like you and connimac, I dread not having the reassurance that Pres. Obama has provided in times of world and national crisis. One small way of combating this feeling is to think of it all as a learning experience. You know, like grade school (Gemini/Mercury).

In school, not everyone is at the same level or ability to comprehend, thus, the “instructor” (life, destiny) must simplify (dumb down?) the lessons in order to reach as many students as possible. I trust then that those things that will seem most scary to us will most benefit the slow students, yet we all must prepare for the unexpected (even if we expected it!)

Thanks for the heads up dates and I would add another planet to your list; transiting Chiron exactly squares transiting Saturn (21 01 Pisces-Sagittarius) on the same day as the Capricorn New Moon, December 28th. That means the U.S. Mars at 21 Gemini 23 makes it a T-square and the U.S. Neptune at 22 Virgo 25 completes a challenging grand cross. This will be in effect until the following New Moon in January.

Something else, a minor aspect, that transiting Mars will be doing in the Dec 28th New Moon is allowing a septile to form between Pluto to the midpoint between Mars and Neptune (a separation of 51.4 degrees). This aspect is a division of a circle by 7 and 7 is a non-rational number.

Robert Wilkinson sees this (division by 7) as contributing a non-rational effect between the two points forming the septile. He says “. . they show as obsessive or compulsive behavior, irrational or strange inexplicable points in the process.”

So, transiting Pluto, with the help of transiting Mars is regenerating the off and on septile aspect it has had with transiting Neptune for a number of years. My first thought was Israel and Palestine.
This of course will add definition to the problematic course transiting Mars makes in the coming days and months you describe above.

Wilkinson describes the septile as a fork-in-the-road-of-destiny and says “reason and rationality may not serve” your ability to make choices. You can read more if you like at this site . . .


In trying to see outcomes or suss out meanings through astrology, there is more to consider than any individual could be expected to find with just his or her own skills and tools. That’s one of the great benefits of your blog Nancy, not only do you have an uncanny eye for political jockeying and a way to explain the aspects that will bring about what you perceive, you spur those of us interested in the art to follow your lead. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and Starlight News with the rest of us.

New Moon December chart



Jupiter 20 Libra
Uranus 20 Aries
Ceres 22 Aries
Transpluto 22 Aries

Transpluto strong in a chart indicates one who grew up in a critical, perfectionist environment – an environment wherein the personality, the ego, felt picked to pieces.


Therefore with Mundane Astrology
the key phrase/word for transpluto would be: perfectionist environment at the December New Moon… I found aspects in political enterprise chart of KellyAnn Conway having ‘perfectionism’ her tendency is to create an environment of perfectionism around TrumpTeaGOP administration

This new moon (like a pre-natal eclipse in natal would be) narrates the upcoming working White House environment under Conway et al


January 27th New Moon

December 29, 2016 New Moon 07 Capricorn


January 27, 2017 New Moon 08 Aquarius

if Lorrie were still blogging here she could tell you about the Numerology of the number EIGHT…. astrology degrees in Numerology for ONE THRU TEN is necessary to know if you are practicing astrology

January 2017 overview


January 27th New Moon Chart


Thanks Nancy for all your analysis and keeping us informed.

Will, Jackson — I’m 8 days later than you guys (and 2 years before Doc Will!) but I’ve been waking up the way you describe for many days now — very sticky energy, takes a lot to make it dissipate.

8 days later than March 20 or March 21? My husband’s BD is March 28, Fierywoman (1948).

Thank you so much for these insights, Nancy! I also was wondering – that coming solar eclipse in August appears to be within one degree of Trump’s ascendant. The eclipse path I believe crosses the middle of the US. I wonder what all that will signify, especially in connection with the triggers you mention which will follow.

Thank you so much Nancy! May blessings fall on all those who inhabit your ‘sanctuary’ in cyberspace.

Happy Holidays to all Starlighters here as well.

I woke up hoping I’d find solace that we as a nation will pull through the new administration and somehow stop this train wreck.

I get this vision that DT will realize its not a dress rehearsal and better not screw it up or he’s going down with us. Maybe his kids will bring him back to reality.

I thank Nancy for being our beacon.

Wonder if Lorrie will come back, or Kitty, they’re both missed

Got this email:

Holiday greetings to my friends of both parties…

To All My Democrat Friends:

Please accept with no obligation, expressed or implied, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2017, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. This is, of course, neither to suggest nor imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country; also, this is not to imply that “America,” as noted herein, is the only America in the Western Hemisphere. May these heartfelt wishes be received with equal intensity regardless of distribution of individual wealth, documented carbon footprint, or perceived social privilege among the wishes addressed herein. This wish is made without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, or sexual preference of the wishee.

To All My Republican Friends:

Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year!


My husband just said this political ‘Holiday Greetings’ was a satire mocking the Dems’ political correctness which finishes by showing the solid Republican values of ‘basics’.

Well, I read it as the Dems being sensitive to diversity while the ‘values’ of Republicans fit into one word, “prosperity’.

I took it completely in what the French call ‘first degree’, but I see my husband’s viewpoint.

Oh, well – another thing open to interpretation….


Although I understand the sarcasm….. by labeling the democratic mindset as being stuck in some sort of repetitive jargon, time warp may be missing the point. The old system is breaking down before our very eyes and what is required is the courage to find a new way, hopefully before we are overwhelmed and unraveled by the Trump “wild west” show. To be cynical is of the old world mentality. If an imminent major shift is about to happen (Trump will surely take us to the precipice – no doubt about it), we will need to reconsider what are our essentials and throw out the rest. Negativity is not one of those things you would want to hold on to when the s..t hits the fan. It’s time to start afresh. We will need to find a new way. One way to start is to become a little more circumspect about all this. Smugness is unbecoming for us liberal minded thinkers.

Has anyone seen the movie Collateral Beauty? Judging by the trailers the theme looks quite intriguing and meaningful. And it has an all star cast……




That’s the Republican party we Democrats are suppose to lay down and play nice with now? Look who is being pretentious, condescending and smug now? I don’t remember rubbing Obama’s win(s) in the faces of my Republican family and friends.. (and he actually won the EC and the popular vote by millions.) If Hillary had won the EC and lost the popular vote by almost 3M votes, their would a lot more than verbal unrest going on right now.

Jerry, i don’t understand the sarcasm, It’s no less demeaning to the left as they claim to have been demeaned by the left.

“The courage to find a new way”.. I hope the DNC is going to heed your advice. If the DNC isn’t willing to change course and find a new way, a third party is going to have to come forward to represent the people. Somebody has to represent us and Bernie’s campaign showed we don’t need that corporate money to win.. if you build it, they will come.

Because of the septile aspect in the December 28 New Moon chart between Pluto and the Mars- Neptune midpoint, and because of the septile’s association with irrationality, I looked at the chart for Israel (the irrational factor being Netanyahu) for any connection between them (December’s NM and Israel).

I also looked at the chart for the start of the Pluto-Neptune cycle since this septile will activate it’s energy pattern. Luckily, the chart for Israel is linked in a comment above (Ed Tamplin piece) and is shown with a second chart which is for the start of the present Jupiter-Saturn cycle.

Coincidentally, the Neptune-Pluto cycle’s chart, a cycle that began back in 1891, holds an opposition between Jupiter and Saturn, telling us that the Jupiter-Saturn (cultural/societal movements) cycle was to be relevant in the Neptune-Pluto cycle’s work. Any cycle’s half-way point (the opposition) is a point to take stock in the relationship between what is represented by the opposing planets.

The Neptune-Pluto conjunction chart has another pertinent aspect; it took place at 8+ Gemini, the same degree as the U.S. natal Uranus. I take from these two things that it is possible this present Saturn-Jupiter cycle has a great deal of direct influence on Israel (Israel natal Sun conjunct the present Jupiter-Saturn cycle starting point), and. . .

. . . the Neptune-Pluto cycle has a great deal of influence on the U.S. (U.S. Uranus conjunct the present Neptune-Pluto starting point). Might there be a connection then between Uranus in the U.S. chart and the country of Israel? If so, might the present Saturn-Jupiter cycle have some bearing on the relationship between these two countries? Is it time to evaluate this relationship (full moon aspect in the Neptune-Pluto chart)?

I’m inclined to think yes. The U.S. Uranus is very close to the cusp of the U.S. chart’s 7th house of partners which could describe the U.S. relationship with Israel. Uranus, a symbol associated with rebellion and instability, might further describe the present U.S. perspective of Israel.

If the cycle between Pluto and Neptune started at the degree of the U.S. Uranus, and if that Uranus is associated with the U.S. relationship with Israel, and if the upcoming New Moon has Pluto septile Neptune (thanks to transiting Mars) an aspect associated with non-rational behavior . .

. . and if the chart for the Pluto-Neptune cycle start holds a major turning point in the Saturn-Jupiter cycle of that time (circa 1891), could it not be triggered by the present aspect between transiting Saturn and Jupiter?

The present aspect between Saturn and Jupiter, although not exact until next August, is a sextile and denotes cooperation.

I’ll go out on a limb and say that the aspect between Pluto and Neptune (+ Mars) in the December 28th New Moon chart, a New Moon which sextiles Mars and Neptune by the way, suggests that the testy relationship between U.S. and Israel will be resolved by next Fall.

The December 28 Capricorn New Moon’s square between Saturn (21+ Sagittarius) and Chiron (21+ Pisces) that forms a grand cross with the U.S. natal square between Mars (21+ Gemini) and Neptune (22+ Virgo) most likely includes this present fray between the two countries.

However, both transiting Jupiter and transiting Uranus, in opposition to one another, make cooperative aspects to both the U.S. Mars in Gemini and the New Moon’s Saturn in Sagittarius, indicating that there is a process at work that includes overcoming the present hurdles testing the nerves of the world community. It will be the U.S. that barters this outcome.

It is worth noting as well that the December New Moon’s nodes make a sextile (North Node) and a trine (South Node) to the Israel chart’s Venus in Cancer which is one degree from the U.S. Venus. Venus symbolize values and the South Node indicates a time of release, while the North Node indicates opportunities for growth.

In social work school, I learned that melting pot is no longer used and the new metaphor is salad, wherein each “vegetable” retains its character. I guess the dominant group has felt like it’s getting lost. I’m not sure why they can’t be more open-hearted and generous but maybe they HAVE lost jobs, etc. to those who will work at cheaper wages – I don’t know…it would explain the resentment.

I’ve also noticed that people are saying that it’s now ok again to say “Merry Christmas” as if it wasn’t ok before. Maybe some institutions (schools, government agencies) didn’t allow it?

I think that in time, people get used to each other and the changes, but I can understand how they could resent having certain things imposed on them…it could actually increase bigotry rather than lessen it…at least temporarily.

I really think that if we could listen to each other, reason with each other, and try to understand our varied viewpoints (and it really needs to happen mutually), we could break down barriers. There has to be a way to do this and not let those who are judgmental get in the way.

When I referred to the “full moon aspect in the Neptune-Pluto chart” I meant to say the Jupiter-Saturn opposition in the Neptune-Pluto chart.

That was my sub-conscious contribution; all oppositions between any 2 planets have the same effect as a Full Moon. They reveal what has transpired since the 2 opposing planets were last in a conjunction.

I believe the Israel chart must have been on the last thread and I believe alex posted it. Here it is:

The Great Smog of 1952 is known to be the worst air-pollution event in the history of the United Kingdom, and the most significant in terms of its effect on environmental research, government regulation, and public awareness of the relationship between air quality and health.

It led to several changes in practices and regulations, including the Clean Air Act 1956.


Sharon, non judgemental listening is the ideal, but that usually involves fairly evolved characters.
The reality is that opinion and judgment in some form go hand in hand.
The problem is what to do at this moment in time when 80%+? of the people have very fixed opinions, which comes out as harsh judgement of ‘I’m right and everyone else is wrong.’
Realistically, IMO, it will take retraining the next generation of society at a young age, to gain new habits without parental prejudices influencing unduly, if it is every possible to change harsh judgement reflexes en masse.
The very notion runs up against pretty basic human tendencies unfortunately.

Glad you said it, Bernie:

“Corporate Media is a Threat to Democracy”



One Dem friend thought the political greetings were written by a Dem as an “unoffensive, fun poke at inclusiveness.” Reason #2: it was entitled, ‘Holiday Greetings’ – something a Republican is loathed say now.

Another Dem friend claimed “Republicans are too dumb to write satire”.

I do the same thing, Kiwi, Elizabeth, Helen, et al….I would like to find a way to explain things to Republicans and have them explain things to us, in a reasonable way, so we could arrive at consensus instead of division. It will take some work and some proactiveness and active listening as opposed to reactiveness. Even though Republicans seem to be nationalistic and anti-inclusion, Liberals exclude Republicans because of their opinions, fears, etc., and go on, in the classic “vicious cycle.” I agree, Kiwi, that some people are just too fixed, but there are ways to cut through. One of them is by being interested in the other person’s experience and viewpoint, just as a communication tool, not to let them have power over you. I think that under the surface, people want to get along but there are these protective layers. Sigh. 🙂

I certainly have no confidence the mainstream media will hold Trump’s feet to the father – with a few exceptions.

That should be fire, lol.

Sharon – I think the only way we’re going to come together as a nation is when some major disaster happens that affects us all including the mega wealthy. And, unfortunately, I believe Donald Trump will be it’s conduit.

A lot people have forgotten what it was like when GWB left office. I don’t because I spent several years working with people trying to keep their homes after losing their jobs (husbands and wives losing thier jobs at the same time). Having to ask them to leave their small children in the vistors lounge so they wouldn’t have to listen to our conversation and/or hear their parents breakdown. Let’s not forget the business owers who had their business ruined because their lines of credit were shutoff without any reason or notice and nowhere to turn.

Helen – as for the “Holdiay Greetings” vs “Merry Christmas” NONSENSE – I say both without too much thought (because I actually have a life). When I do consciously say “Holiday Greetings” or “Happy Holidays” instead of “Merry Christmas” I’m trying to be respectful and kind but to Republicans I’m being a libtard. I’m so sick of all the Republican fakeries.

Marjorie orr: usa 2017 on tenderhooks

This year I just decided to say “Happy Christmas and a Blessed Yule.” Since I never know WHO I’ll be talking to who is also a Pagan, I decided to let them know we’re not ALL lost in the Xmas fuss. Feels good to me to do it that way, too. Let others think what they will… the Repubs who care are too busy thinking about “Happy” and “Christmas” and tend to miss the last part of the greetings! (LOL)

I believe This has been the worst season of my 61 years. We moved to another city, closer to my elderly mother, and the one in which I work fulltime. My physical disabilities made a 90mi round trip commute and 10-14 hours days impossible to keep up with. So far, so good… right? We found a home… one in which the guy had started remodeling and then left it. But it’s much smaller than the one we had, although I was able to pay for it with my retirement IRA. Now, nothing fits, and everything door that seemed to be opening wide open before is like a brick wall now. What CHANGED?

The move here was the day after the first snowfall and the worst cold weather of all year. Two days later, we were back into the 40’s… but we’d have had no help to move once it got warmer. Between work and trying to pack, it wasn’t all done before moving, and we’ve both lost stuff… including cable boxes!

I rescue, and had 10 cats to move here. I made it with all of them, but one (the still near-feral) is gone and I haven’t seen him since my sister said he took out the blinds in the bedroom.

On top of that, my best bud… the dog who came to me more than 10 years ago broken, starved, and manged with 2 types of mange, as well as heart worms… the huge dog with the even bigger heart, died on Christmas Day. It wasn’t unexpected… but still, I feel like I’ve lost my best friend.

And here I sit in a mess of boxes, clothes, and stuff the last resident left behind, while my hubby is at the old house, trying to gather what we need and left behind. One of my cats and I are fighting for who coughs the most and loudest, and thank goodness it’s only me who has to keep running to the bathroom and changing clothes.

I’m an Aquarian with a Scorpio moon. Since Trump I can’t get out of a funk. I know I have to turn away from the macro and move back into the micro somehow, but I haven’t figured out how yet. I can’t get my wards back up. And, with what Starlight and others have laid out for the near future, it doesn’t look like there’s a breather.

Does anyone see **any** thing good on the horizon? Is each generational transition THIS bad? I was aware in the 60’s, and it didn’t seem this bad to me!

Too all… if you can and will, spare a thought for my lost cat, that he’ll find his way back to me (he was rescued as a small kitten), and also for Porter, my dog… who taught himself to be a real service dog to me, as well as the most ardent protector and friend anyone could want.

Thanks for letting me run on. This is the first I’ve written anywhere since Porter died. Haven’t told anyone but you guys. I know… TMI. But I appreciate your indulgence.

Abliene – IMO, best recent quote from The Nordic Brotherhood on facebook – a nod Im sure to the modern gross commercialization, and murky historical origins of Santa Klaus morphed from St Nickolas and Odin.

“Christmas: the time of year when all faiths put away their faiths and celebrate paganism”

that should read
“Christmas: the time of year when all faiths put away their beliefs and celebrate paganism”

Shyra, so sorry to hear of your challenges. May you soon regain your spirit and find a way to move forward with joy in small steps. Going ‘micro’ in your local corner of the world is a good first step. Much love and blessings

Thank You again for your cogent political astro-analysis. Happy Holidays to you and to all Starlighters.

“I think the only way we’re going to come together as a nation is when some major disaster happens that affects us all including the mega wealthy.”

I agree but with this caveat. It depends on what kind of disaster occurs.

If it is a natural or climate change disaster….hypothetically the collapse of the Antarctic Larsen C ice shelf, a sudden sea level rise, or a mega-earthquake, or super-hurricane, or volcanic eruption, or something else difficult to blame on Liberals, Obama, feminists, etc….and Trump does little or nothing to alleviate the ensuing problems in its wake, (assuming they haven’t permanently fixed future elections) we then have a Herbert Hoover we can replace in 2020. It is pretty clear the American collective consciousness wants a new FDR. Remember the FDR with Obama’s face Time magazine cover of November 24, 2008?

But if it is another terrorist attack, another 9-11 or something ambiguous enough to plausibly blame any of the Far Right’s favorite sacrificial victims; then we have an American version of the 1933 Reichstag fire.

Pardon my cynicism, but frankly, I’m expecting the latter as soon as Trump and the Republican Dirty Tricks Department can arrange it.

~ per Stella Hyde (Deadly Sin)

Aries: wrath, self-obsessed

Taurus: greed, reactionary

Gemini: distrusting, envious

Cancer: grudge bearing, sloth

Leo: ruthless, intolerant bully

Virgo: vanity, cruelly critical

Libra: feckless idleness, selfish

Scorpio: depravity, revenge

Sagittarius: extreme indulgence, indiscriminate tactlessness

Capricorn: unforgiving pettiness, avarice

Aquarius: superiority, disengaged pervert

Pisces: jealous, manipulative martyr


Very interesting speculation by Marus – but hen why has nothing of the sort of Executive action even come close to happening since April 8, 2016?

PS -love the Deadly sins of the Zodiac. Adorable!

JM is back……’The Emotional States of America’


Even Maxine Waters says the Democrats are too nice!


Shyra, I’m so sorry about all of these challenges hitting you at the same time and am glad you could unburden yourself and get it off your chest. I am sending you love, light, good thoughts, and prayers. It’s really a bitch to lose a beloved animal family member, and I do pray that your kitty turns up. My mother-in-law was able to find her cat, Blanco, after Hurricane Katrina, and I hope yours finds you and vice versa. One thing that I can relate to is the chaos of changing one’s environment and having a mess to deal with. The more you find a place for things and get rid of what you don’t want & need, I believe the better you will feel. Marie Kondo’s book, “The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up” works for me every time. It helps bring you peace and simplicity as does letting go, and letting God. Take care of yourself and your animal friends — Sending you waves of love & peace ~

Love & Light to you.
I reiterate all that our good friend Sharon said.
My prayer for you is for a better and kinder 2017.
But that is something we all need.
Blessings Aplenty!!!

Tony Schwartz, Trump’s ghostwriter for The Art of the Deal, believes Trump will impose martial law, and make Nixon’s persecution of enemies look like child’s play.


Jan 19th (one day before the Trump inauguration)

Mars 23 ’22 Pisces square Saturn 23 ’22 Sagittarius 4:15a EST (Frustration, Gridlock) in t square to Trump’s natal Sun 22 ’56 Gemini.

That’s a fairly close t square so close to the inauguration. Will the Trump presidency and his agenda run into fierce resistance based on those aspects?

Nancy…….. Would you like to write out an astrological assessment on the 2017 Inauguration chart for us?


Thanks for your post.

DNC became complacent: with agreeableness that goes too far trying hard to avoid conflict and confrontation they are docile, submissive, compliant….

Here’s Jude Cowell’s April 2016 article on the Jan. 20, 2017 Inauguration – complete with chart…..

Washington DC Horoscope of Inauguration 2017


President Trump’s First 100 Days

By Pat Paquette of Mountain Astrologer Magazine
November 15, 2016

As Donald Trump was walking to the podium to give his victory speech, it looked to me like he was about to cry.

Perhaps it was simply fatigue. After all, it was 3:00 a.m. and the end of a grueling campaign that would have exhausted anyone, let alone a 70-year-old man. Even so, with the ultimate spotlight upon him, you would think a Rising Leo would be beaming ear to ear.

Maybe, like everyone else, he was in a state of shock. Only two weeks earlier, his own pollster conceded that he was way behind former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the odds-on favorite. The abrupt reality that in six weeks he would be responsible for running the most-powerful nation on earth had to have been sobering, enough to humble even a billionaire business tycoon of the greatest, most amazing immodesty.



PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURATION 20 JANUARY 2017 by Christine of The Financial Universe

As many of you will be aware, along with some of my colleagues, I made an incorrect call about the US election. Though I made plain that I couldn’t imagine Hillary Clinton being inaugurated on 20th of January, I did feel that the Democrats would have the edge. I did not anticipate a win for Donald Trump. We are, where we are.

I expressed open misgiving at the ISAR conference in Costa Mesa, California, that the inauguration might not go ahead as planned. I felt there was something weak, shady, sad and distressing about the event. My colleagues, far more familiar with the charts of the Clinton family took on my thoughts and we discussed the health of both Bill and Hillary Clinton and how this might jeopardise the event. I was reluctant to join in that conversation – not just because I’m not skilled as a medical astrologer – but also because it felt not quite right.

Yet there is something not quite right about the chart for the 2017 Inauguration. With that in mind I have now looked again at the charts for all inaugurations since the date was changed – back in the 1930s – from March to January 20th. There is only one chart that is at all similar to the one planned for 2017. That’s the chart for 20 January 1973 when President Nixon was inaugurated.

It is entirely possible that Mr Trump’s presidency will meet a similarly sticky end. That of course assumes that the event will go ahead as planned.



Although I don’t necessarily agree with astrologer GianPaolo DiCocco’s general views especially his puzzling admiration for Mr. Donald Trump, I have to say; his analysis on the 2017 Inauguration chart is quite balanced, insightful and well presented…..

Donald Trump and the Astrology of Inauguration Day 2017: Part One

Video: 18 min. 25 sec.



I’m so sorry for the loss of Porter. It’s never easy losing a member of your family and then everything added on top of it. Sending you best wishes for a better 2017.

There is something so poignant about this year’s Christmas Day astrology. Within 25 hours transiting Venus at 20+ Aquarius aspected the 4 other planets that were located at 20+ degrees in their respective signs. She made a trine to Jupiter in Libra first, followed by a sextile to Uranus in Aries, then another sextile to Saturn in Sagittarius, and finally a semisextile to Chiron in Pisces.

I’ve looked at this pattern from several vantage points; the outer planet perspective, totally impersonal and, since Uranus was retrograde in motion, in review mode. Seen from a collective perspective, the Jupiter-Saturn sextile was neither in charge of the zeitgeist nor could it be seen as a victim of the times.

Caught in the middle, so-to-speak, Jupiter and Saturn represented a social and cultural phenomenon; the Individual and the Universal edicts were both demanding attention and reform. Symbolically, the inner and the outer, the highest and the lowest on the spectrum of wisdom and knowledge were exerting pressure to adapt to something new.

Uranus was the symbolic NEW and his opposition to Jupiter was seeking to find accord with this NEW through Jupiter’s breadth of understanding.

Uranus’ trine with Saturn, the standard bearer in astrology, both of whom have come to share rulership of the human altruism associated with Aquarius, symbol of the new age, met under peaceful circumstances, the trine.

Venus, one of the two most receptive personal planets, met all 3 – Uranus, Jupiter and Saturn, within slightly over 5 hours on Christmas Day; a trine with Jupiter and sextiles with Uranus and Saturn. Venus, in the sign of brotherly love, Aquarius, would, with the help of Chiron (with whom she shared a semi-sextile aspect), remind Humanity of its nobler purpose.

If this brief collaborative effort on the part of the gods and goddesses, on a day most widely recognized as a day of peace and love, is to be viewed as a kickstart for the NEW, how awesome is that?

Generally speaking, the outer planets penetrate the consciousness of humanity via the assistance of transmitters like Chiron and other centaurs or other third party symbols. This parlay of energy from the outer planets (in this case specifically Uranus) through to the collective planets Saturn and Jupiter, and on to the personal planets, in this case Venus, would normally take some time; weeks, months maybe years.

It would seem though that this Christmas a new technique is being tested. A sample of timelessness perhaps. A direct message from the most advanced powers to the most primitive of humankind in the blink of an eye. How humbling.

Is it an attempt to “humanize” the outer planet delivery system? An overture to bypass their fearful messages of the past? Not the great floods or the great pestilences of old, where Humanity quaked before the gods in fear for their lives, but a loving gesture of goodwill instead?

Well, if not, it is something extraordinary you must admit. There are no coincidences in astrology I was taught, and for this lineup of planets to take place on and around Christmas is a message of synchronicity I don’t recall ever seeing before.

As Venus on Christmas Day was conjunct the U.S. Progressed Mercury, the U.S. collective mentality would be most susceptible to this grand experiment of the Universe. In the days and weeks and months to come will we see any transformation in U.S. perceptions of how good or bad life really is? I for one would prefer this method of evolution over pestilence and will keep my fingers crossed.

Lorna Bevan (hare in the moon astrology) has just posted her new article
“The years between 2017- 2023 are stair steps through the Connected Universe into the Age of
Aquarius when Pluto enters the sign of the Futurist. So, what can we foresee for 2017? Deep
? The chaos factor as the new normal……..”


Israel: Creation of the State of Israel

May 14 1948
16.37.00 EET (-02)
Tel Aviv
34E45’00”; 32N07’00” (slightly different in my version of SolarFire)

Source: The recorded radio announcement at 16.37 by Ben Gurian, the first prime minister, that “the State of Israel has arisen.” Baigent; Campion; Harvey, “Mundane Astrology,” p. 549 and Campion’s data disc, “Solar Fire.”

The progressed natal positions for Israel would not be noticeably different between a birth chart at 4 PM and one 37 minutes later,(the Moon by less than 1/2 degree) but the MC would be different by about 9 degrees for the natal and any charts derived from it.

The anlunar is from the precessed solar return. It came in at 7:04:53 PM, EET in Tel Aviv, 1:04:53 PM, EDT in New York where the United Nations cease fire resolution was agreed to. I believe the vote was in the morning of June 11 in New York.

Anlunar MC 190°20′. Israel 4:37 progressed Jupiter on the Asc 190°37′. Progressed Uranus on the Desc 190°50′. Anlunar Saturn was on the IC at 190°56′, indicative of the adversity Israel faced but not strong enough to negate the positive indicated by the progressed natal points to the anlunar and the transits to the natal chart.

Israel had decisively beaten all Arab military opposition it faced. The original cease fire was to have started at 6:30 PM, local time in the Middle East but did not, necessitating continued work by the U.N. on June 11. Only the angles from a birth time of 4:37 PM for Israel yields the angles showing appropriate symbolism for Israel’s stunning victory over all opposition from a progressed natal chart for Israel on them when the anlunar came in. The 4:00 PM birth time angles would have nothing at all within even a few degrees of them.



John Rothmann’s brilliant program right now. Talking how: PBO could have easily won against Trump! Listen Live:

Thank you Nancy! These are indeed trying times for all of us. None of us really know how Trump will handle this very sobering job in a presidential way. Many people are feeling fearful. I being a Libra a ever hopeful, that we will weather this time and come out the better for it, somehow/someway.

The agency of Paul Ryan’s coming budget for the TrumpTeaGOP administration is meant to render their perverse definition of freedom as an absolute ideological purpose for elevating social indifference to a virtue.

A mere three days after the election — Ryan was asked in an interview about entitlement reform, the Washington code word for cuts. Coming from a hard-right ideologue like Ryan, it means very sharp cuts, if not outright repeal of programs. He said since Affordable Care Act is “failing” it would be repealed, and as Medicare Medicaid are part of that they would need changes as well.

TrumpTeaGOP transition team has a couple of notorious Social Security privatizers on the team which will oversee the Social Security Administration. Such people have wanted to turn Social Security into a 401(k)-style program, not least because it would be a stupendous windfall for Wall Street swindlers.

Aquarian humanism is a way of hoping, or wishing men to be brothers with one another but when utopian Aquarians deny the irrational qualities of emotions—?such as jealousy, possessiveness, and fear as an effort to be above “pettiness” they become emotionally blocked and bring out ‘healing’ crises.

Moving as a square in a direction from Scorpio to Aquarius inscribes a ninety degree arc while moving from Aquarius to Scorpio a two hundred-seventy degree arc.

The relationships from 90 or 270 movement are naturally quite distinct and brings about different associations.

On August 21, 2017, the United States will be treated to a rare total solar eclipse which will traverse the entire width of the continental mainland from Oregon to South Carolina.

It’ll be the first total eclipse visible only in the US since the American Revolution, and the first total solar eclipse to sweep coast-to-coast in 99 years. A total eclipse will be seen from a path over 62 miles (100 km) wide, and will last for two minutes or more. Happily, a partial eclipse will be visible from all of North America, Hawaii and parts of northern South America.

You will need to scroll down a bit to see the map showing the eclipse’s precise path.


Eliseo, “The first total eclipse visible only in the US since the American Revolution”. Wow, Something Very Big will take place in the United States! The Eclipse visibility always portends some dramatic change to any nation it touches. https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogle/SEgoogle2001/SE2017Aug21Tgoogle.html
Here’s the path:

Radio navigation piloting: the radio beacon

This is how is works. The beacon sent out different morse code signals in each different quadrant of the compass.

0 to 90 degrees
90 to 180
180 to 270
270 to 360

If the pilot heard the 2 dots (dot dot of the morse code) radio signal then the pilot knew he was in the correct quadrant …

Navigating by radio ~ per the frugal pilot


Although I am moving slowly toward the “acceptance stage” about the “president-elect,”I experience frequent bouts of a brutal battle in my guts between anger and fear.

The worst is yet to come wait when this astonishing assclown gets into the Oval Office.

The time (phase) different between the planets

Nikola Tesla and The Planetary Radio Signals



wiki flight gear

How Does VOR Work?

VORs work on the principle of the phase difference in two radio signals.

Think of a tower with two lights on it. One light rotates at a constant rate around the tower but has a very narrow beam so that it can only be seen by the viewer just as the beam passes the viewer’s position.

The other light flashes—and can be seen in all directions (an omnidirectional light)—only when the rotating light exactly passes magnetic north.

If you know how fast the rotating light is moving, it’s a simple matter to start a timer when the omnidirectional light flashes, just as the rotating light passes north, and then note the time when you see the rotating beam aim at your position. Then, with just a little math you’ll know your bearing from the station.

That’s how a VOR works. A rotating directional signal is broadcast from the VOR, while a second (omnidirectional) signal is broadcast only when the rotating signal passes north. The VOR receiver in your aircraft measures the time—or phase—difference in these two signals and comes up with the bearing—or radial—from the station.

“..come; wait until this…”


Early Radio History – Talking With The Planets



Robert Reich twitter

Will, so true.
I am very glad I am not an American at the moment, but we in Australia are very tied to the U.S. in many ways. There is not one person I have talked to here who is not dismayed by this election result and fearful of what comes next in the international sphere.

This is fun(ny)…..what each state Googled MOST in one year:



Spent a month working in your beautiful country in 2000 on the Opera Quay in Sydney.

Sydney Harbor is like no other. Manly Beach reminded me of Santa Monica, CA 30 years earlier.

Re: Trump; where are those ISIS operatives when we need them?


“There is not one person I have talked to here who is not dismayed by this election result and fearful of what comes next in the international sphere.”

Most citizens here in the USA feel as dismayed as you do, no matter whom they voted for. Sure, there are a few hard core Hillary supporters and hard core Trump supporters, but most here voted with zero enthusiasm for their candidate.

As you know, HRC won the popular vote by almost 3 million and lost the electoral college vote. But in my lifetime I’ve never seen an election in which the vast majority of voters were so intensely ambivalent about both major contenders.

The only good thing about HRC’s loss is that it preserves her reputation. As she had no “coattails” she would have faced an extremely hostile Congress, been impeached on false, exaggerated charges and possibly convicted by a hyper-partisan Senate. Not a good precedent for our first woman president. Also, both Clinton’s impeached?

Our main fear now is that Trump really is a tried and true fascist. His cabinet picks certainly indicate a beyond far right tilt. ALL of them so far are either Far Right, Crazy or both. Many of us are wondering how long it will be before Trump & Company pull a “Reichstag fire” incident and declare martial law.

The only caveat is that it is more difficult to declare and maintain martial law here in the USA than in many other countries. We’ve lived under the jurisdiction of our constitution for almost 228 years. The state constitutions provide an additional layer of legal protections. Together, the USA constitution plus the state documents do provide some insulation. Historically, when martial law was declared here locally or nationally, it was very focused and lasted for a very short period of time. Nevertheless, I personally believe there is a better than even chance we will live under the heel of the boot at least for a while, possibly for a few years.

There is also a great deal of fear we will have no more elections, or more likely sham elections as the Trumpists consolidate their power. I pray the child who will be president doesn’t get us or anyone else nuked. But this is on many minds as well. And I’ve not mentioned the loss of our many good social programs. These folks hope to undo over 100 years of social and cultural progress, going back to before the reforms of Theodore Roosevelt. God knows what havoc they’ll introduce internationally!

Frankly, we are all very, very scared. In my lifetime I’ve never seen so many depressed Americans at Christmas. Many have tried to keep up appearances, wearing fake smiles, particularly for the sake of their children, or because of their faith. But the “joy” of the season has been as hollow and empty as a dry well.

May your great and good country prosper materially, and spiritually. I pray you are not harmed by the madness of the minority which has so far succeeded in stealing this nation, and betraying the vision of our founders.

What is worrisome to me is that while the new administration’s leader is tweeting, there may be a major situation happening in the nation that requires leadership but the preoccupation with tweeting he ignores it
; much like when he was on the ‘thank you tour’ instead of attending to the daily briefings for the new job he’s ‘been elected’ to lead us poor sheeple.


Former spy reports Kremlin cultivated Trump as an asset for 5 years

By Frank Vyan Walton
Tuesday Dec 27, 2016 · 12:03 PM PST

Robert Reich

How do Trump and Paul Ryan plan to repeal Medicare (as well as Medicaid and Obamacare)?

Watch our latest video to find out — and prepare to stop them.


The increasing imbroglio over the UN resolution against the Israeli settlements and Netanyahu’s vicious attacks against Obama in response are showing us the first manifestations of the Saturn transit of late December and early January. Saturn is square to Obama’s Mars and opposite US Mars and conjunct Trump’s Moon.

Tr Mars is about to square US Uranus and trigger the October solar eclipse, so I wonder if there will be some kind of attack that agitates the current issue or if there will be some other event.

And finally, Trump. I keep reading all these articles about how he should divest from the Trump corporation. How he should sell the whole thing to avoid corruption. It is my opinion that he is completely identified with the Trump brand and could never disconnect himself from it. Moreover, he doesn’t care about the appearance of corruption. He figures he can bully and bluster his way past it. There is no way he will divest. He is a megalomaniac who will soon have no limitations put on him at all. He won’t give any of it up.

This is a summary of the recent events relating to Israel:


I just watched a discussion of the settlements on MSNBC and saw a map of them. I had mistakenly thought they were all closer to the border of Israel proper. They are spread uniformly over the entire West Bank. The situation looks more impossible than ever.

From Haaretz:


Kerry’s address should be required viewing/reading for all Americans and Israelis. So complete and so filled with understanding and compassion for both sides in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. In this fact free universe we seem to now inhabit, it’s good to hear from the person who has been at the negotiating table. Let’s hope the world can contribute something now to help end the stalemate before Trump gets in and makes matters worse. He and Netanyahu are such young souls in power mode.


When I first saw the 2017 eclipse’s path, I felt like it’s meaning was so clear. It cuts the country in two, from somewhere near Portland, Oregon to Charleston, SC.

Ending in Charleston? The site of the start of a devastating war where one side of the US fought against the other? Where people must have doubted whether the country would ever be united again?

Actually, while Charleston’s in the prime viewing area, the center of the eclipse’s path is about 40 miles north of there, in a little town called McClellanville, which is where Hurricane Hugo, a devastating Category 3 storm, came ashore in 1989. Again, a bad omen.

Thanks for your observations regarding the Israeli settlements in the West Bank area Nancy. This indeed is the main story of the present astrology, specifically the Uranus-Jupiter opposition and related aspects. I just watched Sec’y Kerry’s speech with admiration and rapt attention, and hope others here were able to see and hear it too.

From the U.S. natal chart perspective, the transit of Jupiter conjunct the U.S. Juno was made clear in Kerry’s repeated reference to the Palestinian right to “equal recognition”.

Opposite transiting Jupiter (+ U.S. Juno) is transiting Uranus conjunct the U.S. natal Chiron. The healing proclivities inherent in the symbolism of Chiron were apparent in Kerry’s words as he explained the history of the 2 state solution and where the U.S. has stood throughout the process to create it.

When the Secretary spoke of Israel’s “security requirements” I thought of Saturn and how transiting Saturn is now trine transiting Uranus.

It is fascinating to me that transiting Juno (unrecognized equality) is conjunct (within a degree from) Kerry’s natal Sun at 18 Sagittarius 39. The fact that Kerry’s Sun is opposite his natal Moon in Gemini adds impact to his role in this defense of the U.S. position and the desire for a 2 state resolution as a path to peace in the middle east.

Further astrological weight re: today’s speech comes from the Full Moon 2 weeks ago which was one degree from Kerry’s natal Saturn at 23+ Gemini. That Full Moon (opposite Sun in Sagittarius) was T-squared by transiting Chiron at 20+ Pisces.

The full moon astrology activated not only Kerry’s Saturn but the U.S. natal Neptune square U.S. natal Mars. I was so impressed with John Kerry’s stamina and grasp of detailed historical facts that I could not help but think of how great a President he would have been. I feel sure his efforts today will become part of the U.S. story as it pertains to world history.

Trump may gain media attention with his simple-minded tweets but a side by side comparison with John Kerry’s compassionate and intelligent words to the world today will put Trump into the garbage heap of historical significance in world affairs.


Thank you for posting the WaPo and Haaretz pieces on the UN vote. Very informative.

I found the analysis by Amir Oren; UN Vote: World Beginning to Rescue Israel From Itself” particularly sound.

Netanyahu is as megalomaniacal as Trump.

I also just read that the White House will announce its sanctions tomorrow to punish Russia and Putin for the election hacking.

You might find this welcome in these times – non astrology.

Joan Baez – All-Star 75th Birthday Celebration 1:16:17
Her birthday is January 9th.


with: In order of appearance

I cannot leave these out.

Peter, Paul & Mary with Pete Seeger – Where Have All The Flowers Gone



“Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told New Zealand’s foreign minister that support for a UN resolution condemning Israeli settlement-building in the occupied territories would be viewed as a “declaration of war”.


Yes, I just read Netanyahu’s proclamation to New Zealand. He’s absolutely drunk with omnipotence, invincibility and of course, the dark side of this – utter paranoia.

He is like a rabid dog.

If left unchecked, Netanyahu may very well cause the destruction of the nation of Israel.

Here’s Steve Bannon, the man who will be Trump’s Puppet Master. We, the entire nation, should aware of their vision and direction they intend to take all of us:

Can someone please enlighten me as to what is going on with Israel, I see people talking about Kerrys speech being great and then I see all over twitter condemnation of him and Obama, also the orange buffoon tweets that come inauguration everything will change for Israel , they think that this administration has been awful to Israel I am gathering


Also it seems that Trump is now saying that the transition is not longer going peacefully


Why Why Why is this man child with a psychological disorder going to be the next President?

I sent the Bannon video to Robert Reich. Reich he has a wonderful website, and shares Trump’s Tricks with the public.
Check out his site:


Why Paul Ryan wants to rush Obamacare repeal—to avoid all the pesky details of actual ‘replacement’

By Kerry Eleveld

Wednesday Dec 28, 2016 · 9:33 AM PST

A major problem with the U.N. resolution is , as far as I can understand, they include the Western Wall as occupied territory and the Western Wall is a very important prayer site to all world Jews, both residents and visitors, so that would need to be clarified. Also, I may be wrong, but my perception is that there is a long game being played where Hamas, backed by Iran, and Hezzbolah in the North, and Syria in the West are planning to coordinate militarily to take over Israel. People have been sacrificed as martyrs with this end in mind. Hamas (the son of the founder left and wrote about their brutality) does not recognize Israel as a Jewish state, although much more land was given to Arabs after the partition than was given to Israel (and Israelis left their homes and properties, too). Hamas and others in Palestine teach their children to hate Israelis and Jews through the education and TV shows. My question is why this is never included in the equation?

Sharon, I think the west wall argument is a bit of a talking point canard designed and promoted to curry political sympathy.
Here is a text of the UN resolution.
While I am no expert, I fail to see where it does more than reaffirm previous positions that both parties abide by previous agreements.

” Expect trouble as an inevitable part of your life and repeat to yourself the most comforting words of all:

“This too, shall pass”

-Ann Landers


One of the things we can anticipate as we approach the beginning of the Trump presidency…… the crippling of the cherished American first amendment; the Free Press? Remember, Donald Trump has little or no sense of humor when his prestige/ image is being maligned……

The Trump Files: When Donald Had to Prove He Was Not the Son of an Orangutan

This really happened.

Mother Jones
October 16, 2016

Donald Trump has a well-documented tendency to file lawsuits when someone hurts his feelings. In 2013, the guilty party was Bill Maher, the late-night HBO talk show host known for his liberal leanings and biting commentary.

After Trump had insisted in 2012 that President Barack Obama release his college transcripts and passport records, Maher pushed back on the mogul’s request with a demand of his own: that Trump show proof that he is not “the spawn of his mother having sex with an orangutan.” Maher, interviewed on Jay Leno’s The Tonight Show, cited the similarity in color between Trump’s coif and an orange orangutan’s fur, as split-screen images of Trump next to the animal were displayed. If Trump complied with the request and proved him wrong, Maher promised he would give Trump $5 million for the charity of his choice. The charities Maher suggested? “Hair Club for Men” or the “Institute for Incorrigible Douchebaggery.”

Trump took the jab personally. He filed a $5 million lawsuit against Maher for breach of contract, alleging that when he provided his birth certificate to Maher proving he is not, in fact, the son of an orangutan, Maher never came up with the $5 million. Alas, the lawsuit didn’t get very far. Trump wound up dropping it, but the threat to Maher remained.

Michael Cohen, an attorney for Trump, insisted that although the suit had been withdrawn temporarily, it could resurface in the future. “The lawsuit was temporarily withdrawn to be amended and refiled at a later date,” Cohen said.



Journalists Should Be Terrified

A free press has rarely been so necessary. And we have every reason to believe that Trump will try to bring it to heel.

Nov 9, 2016

It is hard to imagine what good will come for the vulnerable among us during a Trump presidency, the fruits of a reactionary, xenophobic, hateful campaign. The health of the planet will suffer as climate change goes unaddressed. There is a long list of nightmares that are now poised to come true. Among them: Life might soon become very ugly for journalists.

As a voice for the weak and powerless, a free press is important especially in neo-authoritarian conditions, and it should be obvious by now that Trump wants to curb its efficacy. As a candidate, he consistently maligned the mainstream media as corrupt and dishonest. He portrayed the press as a group of ethically compromised elitists colluding to thwart his candidacy and stifle the voices of his supporters. He represents a group of people who see a strong independent press not as a necessary check on accumulated power in America but as a bothersome impediment to the accumulation of that power. And he will almost certainly use the office of the presidency to bring the press to heel.




re: brain-damaged

I use to say the public was brainwashed but not now. Now I’d say they are brain damaged.

When an individual does not have rem sleep every night (sleep increases the reproduction of cells that form myelin) they become deficient in the ‘regeneration of brain support cells (the insulating material found on nerve cell projections in the brain and spinal cord).


(..precursor cells (OPCS), double in reproduction during sleep)

This reproduction is heightened during rapid eye movement (REM), which is linked to dreaming.

Hi Nancy, Thank you for this latest thread. Would you be able to look at this?


Two wonderful videos I came across of Carrie Fisher and her Mom…they lived in homes directly next to one aother: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1EnDqhFU6I
#2, Beautiful Oprah Interview of Mom & Daughter:

Debbie Reynolds has died one day after her daughter, Carrie Fisher. Broken heart syndrome?


Eliseo, years ago, I visited a clairvoyant after a very painful loss, and after “scanning” me, she said, “Your heart chakra is broken!” I do think that there is something very significant about that heart in metaphysical terms…and it is something that I thought of when I heard of Debbie Reynolds’s passing last night…

Jerry, regarding the first amendment, I saw this and perhaps it was noted in the comments above…
I guess Ryan would rather debate and enact their cynical agenda in private…Scary times!



We are a global community. What happens in the US appears to have ramifications in other areas of the world.

Case in point. It’s interesting to note that the Indian government instituted the controversial step of demonetization of its 500 & 1,000 rupee notes (in an effort to curb corruption). It happened to coincide the same day as the US presidential elections (November 8th). Whether deliberate or not, the timing may have served as a positive distraction.

Fast forward January 6th, the date of the new US congress……

Congress To Launch Three-Phase Agitation Against Note Ban From Jan 6


Some charts that do cause concerns regarding coming transits using charts for Israel, trump, the U.N., and the total solar eclipse on Aug 21, 2017.

Note: Must be logged in to see the charts.


It’s becoming clear, at least to me, that using trusted alternative news sites will become necessary in our post-truth world.



Todd Fisher, Reynolds’ son, told TMZ that he and Reynolds were planning Carrie Fisher’s funeral Wednesday morning when she began grieving and told him, “I miss her so much, I want to be with Carrie.”

Fisher confirmed Reynolds’ last words to E! News saying, “She went to be with Carrie. In fact, those were the last words she spoke this morning.”


Apple, the key words are “trusted and credible”, like the article from think progress you linked.
Thanks for posting.
The real problem is that so many of the alternative news sites are little more than gossipy headline grabbers from opinion pushers with dubious origins and very little real journalistic integrity, who have tarnished all with a bad name. And unthinking people get sucked into their BS

The author of your link is credible –
Expertise: Courts, constitutional law
Ian Millhiser is a Senior Fellow at American Progress. His work focuses on the Constitution and the judiciary.

Ja, I think it’s unlikely that President Obama will make a recess appointment of Merrick Garland. Garland would give up his life appt. on the appellate court for a year’s term on the Supreme Court. Barack might, however, try to use recess appointments to fill the 59 judicial vacancies that have been languishing. There is a current judicial emergency due to the vacancies, and even if the Republicans were to contest every one of those appointments, many cases would be decided in the interim. Some of the judges even might get to remain in their seats; Republicans just refused to have hearings on them out of spite, not actual opposition to the jurists themselves.

“Robert Reich Seven Wishes For President Obama’s Parting Shots”
President-elect Donald Trump is accusing President Obama of putting up “roadblocks” to a smooth transition.
In reality, I think President Obama has been too cooperative with Trump.
In the waning days of his administration, I’d recommend Obama take the following last stands:

Peru volcanoes explode into life triggering state of emergency and Mass Evacuation.


“What History Has to Say About the Economy Trump Will Inherit:
“The economy was stronger in 2016 than several previous election years:


Quietly, Trump and Republicans Are Gunning to Destroy Medicaid
As Democrats focus on Obamacare and Medicare, there’s a “quieter war” on Medicaid brewing


Speaker Paul D. Ryan and Tom Price, Mr. Trump’s choice for secretary of health and human services, made proposals to deeply cut Medicaid through arbitrary block grants or ‘per capita caps,’ during the campaign, Mr. Trump has also proposed block grants.”

Just this month, Vice President-elect Mike Pence told ABC: “With regard to Medicaid…there’s a real opportunity, there’s a real opportunity as we repeal and replace Obamacare to do exactly what the president-elect also said on the campaign, and that is block granting Medicaid back to the states.”

Block-granting can mean funding cuts, The Hill explained:

Block grants would mean limiting federal Medicaid funds to a set amount given to the states, rather than the current federal commitment, which is more open-ended.

Indeed, Sperling pointed to 2012 study (pdf) from the Kaiser Family Foundation, which found that a Medicaid block-grant proposal from Speaker Ryan “would lead to 14 million to 21 million Americans losing their Medicaid coverage by the 10th year, and that is on top of the 13 million who would lose Medicaid or children’s insurance program coverage under an [Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare] repeal.”

A separate Center for Rural Affairs report (pdf), also from 2012, found that “changes in Medicaid are likely to have a disproportionate effect on rural areas.”

Pence’s tenure as governor of Indiana could provide more clues about where the critical safety net program is headed. As governor, Pence implemented a policy requiring poor Medicaid recipients to make monthly payments for their insurance, or else lose benefits.

“That idea could soon be going national,” The Hill wrote, noting that “Trump’s nominee to run the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, Seema Verma, helped Pence develop the changes to Medicaid in Indiana.”

While negotiating this arrangement, one federal official told NPR this week, Verma was “very committed to a particular ideology. That ideology is very much focused on personal responsibility.”

In a statement following Verma’s nomination, Physicians for a National Health Program president Robert Zarr said Verma’s “actions in Indiana signal that she will inflict cruel and unusual punishment on America’s most vulnerable citizens.”

Kiwi, I meant to answer your post about the UN Resolution. As I understand it, the Western Wall is access through the Old City which is in East Jerusalem.

The stories are coming out now, It’s difficult to believe Trump can be inaugurated.


Thanks for the article, Apple.

People question corporate control of food, etc. but somehow give a pass to the news. Are the MSM sites publishing this?

“We are a group of scientists at CDC that are very concerned about the current state of ethics at our agency. It appears that our mission is being influenced and shaped by outside parties and rogue interests. It seems that our mission and Congressional intent for our agency is being circumvented by some of our leaders. What concerns us most, is that it is becoming the norm and not the rare exception. Some senior management officials at CDC are clearly aware and even condone these behaviors. Others see it and turn the other way. Some staff are intimidated and pressed to do things they know are not right. We have representatives from across the agency that witness this unacceptable behavior. It occurs at all levels and in all of our respective units. These questionable and unethical practices threaten to undermine our credibility and reputation as a trusted leader in public health. We would like to see high ethical standards and thoughtful, responsible management restored at CDC. We are asking that you do your part to help clean up this house!”

A group calling itself CDC Scientists Preserving Integrity, Diligence, and Ethics in Research (CDC SPIDER) recently submitted a letter to the CDC chief of staff expressing grave concerns about special interest influence being exerted on the agency’s leaders.

***I’ve tried to include the link twice, but won’t publish – perhaps because it’s a PDF….???

Good talk by Lionel (media commentator) on the ways they’re attempting to put the internet genie/non-mainstream narrative back in the bottle:


Could Trump Actually Start a Nuclear War?

Examining the worst case and most likely scenarios when it comes to war under President Trump.

The Diplomat
Nov 11, 2016

With Donald Trump ascending to the presidency in 2017, which will also make him the commander-in-chief of the United States Armed Forces, will the chances of the United States getting involved in another war increase? Will President Trump be more likely to use nuclear weapons than his predecessors? Like many other questions surrounding the president-elect and his future administration, this is difficult to answer. Here are some preliminary thoughts.

The President’s War Powers

The U.S. president’s powers to wage war are quite extensive. Most importantly, he can take military actions without specific congressional authorization, although the so-called War Powers Resolution from 1973 mandates that the president has to withdraw combat troops from foreign territory within 60 to 90 days unless Congress authorizes their continuous deployment. However, no president — including Barack Obama back in 2011, when he did not seek congressional authorization 60 days into the Libyan intervention — has accepted the constitutionality of the 60-90 day limit.
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According to executive branch interpretation, most conflicts that the United States has been involved in did not pass the threshold definition of war for constitutional purposes. Indeed, the United States has not declared war since 1942 and ever since U.S. President Harry Truman’s decision to dispatch U.S. troops into Korea in 1950, the president has made the initial decision to commence military hostilities abroad. In the late 20th/early 21st century, executive branch power was generously interpreted as giving the president the ability to wage war without congressional authorization even when the United States is not facing an actual or imminent threat to its national security.

Like it or not, President Donald Trump will have a large say over the question of war and peace in the next four years.




The November 8th Mercury retrograde station conjunct Pluto square the US Saturn and Trump’s natal Chiron.

Astrologer Louis Acker writes:

“……Transiting Mercury regains 15 degrees of Capricorn on January 28, 2017 the degree Mercury turned retrograde on November 8, 2016, thus completing the retrograde cycle. At that time hidden and suppressed information regarding elitist agendas will begin to come to light.”

I suspect the investigation Obama had requested regarding Russian interference in the US elections could reveal damaging info. The deadline for that report is January 20th. This is info that could directly implicate Donald Trump’s collusion. Would impeachment proceedings start to take shape in late January as a result?

More ominously, if Donald Trump anticipates trouble, would he use a “Wag The Dog” tactic to deflect attention away from his involvement?

What supports that hypothesis are the February 26th aspects. The Mars/Uranus conjunction in Aries; in MARS ruling sign, the planet of war at 22 Aries forms an opposition to Jupiter (aggression) at 22 Libra; completing a t square to Trump’s natal Saturn (23 Cancer) – karma and restriction. Will Trump deliberately start a war as a means of obfuscation? Stay tuned friends.

Mercury stationed and turned Rx on December 19, not November 8. Otherwise, very interesting. Thanks for posting, Jerry.


Thank you so much for pointing that out. I stand corrected.

Actually, in the article excerpt I cited, Louis Acker mistakenly wrote out the same date twice:

“….Transiting Mercury regains 15 degrees of Capricorn on January 28, 2017 the degree he turned retrograde at on January 28, 2017, thus completing the retrograde cycle.”

And I, in a rather absentminded state filled in what I thought was the correct date (election day – Nov 8th) rather than the electoral college vote date (December 19th) the actual day when Mercury turned stationary retrograde.

Here is the Louis Acker article for quick reference:

World Astrological trends for the late fall of 2016 and 2017



With the Russian story picking up steam yesterday, on the 29th, is this the “final wave of unexpected, potent and transformative events.”, you predicted? Is it possible this story could escalate and cause there to be a stumbling block for DT before Inauguration day?

Elizabeth – I think there will be more dramatic events to come, perhaps over the next 24 hours. But I doubt there is any way to avoid Trump come January 20. The current stressful circumstances regarding Israel and regarding Russia seem likely to continue through mid-Janaury at least.

OK. Thank you for responding to me.

Happy New Year. 21 days to Trump.

I got my carpal tunnel surgery in on my aetna through the marketplace in the nick of time, after being turned down by several doctors offices because it was through the marketplace. Went to a public hospital, they did a great job.

It’s a scary time. Glad he will have Saturn transits. sorry the US has Pluto transits….

Happy New Year everyone

Congratulations Gypsi.

Wishing a safe and healthy new year for all. May you all have enough of whatever you truly need.

My charts for trump indicate an unpleasant time for trump on New Years.

It looks to me to be more of a psychological experience than a physical one. A nasty leak? No call from puty? A false news event that goes awry and connected to him (perps caught and rat on him)? Hillary crashes his party? His hair falls off, er, out?

Or maybe his cocaine habit will be revealed?

very funny, need the chuckle, Bob.

Anything is posible(spanish for) at this point. I mean when a famous mother and daughter die with 48 hrs. I’m inclined to give credence to anything Don the chislin’ Con, throws our way.

He’s got to be a demon of some sort, I’m thinking he’s an outer space clone, who has dodged many things humanly possibly and only because he isn’t human.


unless one of his kids stops him, he’s quite capable and will press the button to annihilate us unless physically tackled to the ground by a patriot to save us. It has come to that, I believe. I’m sorry to put a damper on what everyone is likely thinking in the back of their brains, but it is what it is.

Hopefully I am wrong and Wish all a healthy, and prosperous 2017, with full of life.

LG, he’s a spoiled and impossibly rich kid. But I suppose you could make a case for that being the same thing as being from outer space.

close to being from outer space. Richie Rich (of Cartoon network fame) in the white house.


he isn’t even rich, he’s up to his orange toad eyes in debt around the world.

he’s a con job. Banks all around he world own his a**, he has nothing to lose. He once said: if you owe the bank $100, its your problem. If you owe the banks $100M its THEIR problem. He really doesn’t care about anything except tweeting. He’s souless therefore inhuman. Look at the way he paraded poor Mitt Romney for the SoS job because he trashed him, but Mitt never apologized for the things he said. That is our new leader. Cares more about perception than integrity.

15th Congress
January 6, 2017: Joint Session to count the Electoral Votes of the 2016 presidential election

The first major act of the unified Republican government in 2017 will be a vote in Congress to begin tearing down Obamacare.

Main article: List of current United States Senate committees
Committee Chairman Ranking Member

Agriculture, Nutrition and Forestry Debbie Stabenow (D-MI)
Appropriations Patrick Leahy (D-VT)
Armed Services Jack Reed (D-RI)
Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
Budget Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
Commerce, Science and Transportation Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Energy and Natural Resources Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
Environment and Public Works Tom Carper (D-DE)
Finance Ron Wyden (D-OR)
Foreign Relations Ben Cardin (D-MD)
Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Patty Murray (D-WA)
Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Claire McCaskill (D-MO)
Judiciary Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Rules and Administration Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
Small Business and Entrepreneurship Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
Veterans’ Affairs Jon Tester (D-MT)
Aging Bob Casey Jr. (D-PA)
Ethics Chris Coons (D-DE)
Intelligence Mark Warner (D-VA)
House of Representatives[edit]
Main article: List of current United States House of Representatives committees
Committee Chairman[4] Ranking Member
Agriculture Mike Conaway (R-TX) Collin Peterson (D-MN)
Appropriations Rodney Frelinghuysen (R-NJ) Nita Lowey (D-NY)
Armed Services Mac Thornberry (R-TX) Adam Smith (D-WA)
Budget Tom Price (R-GA) John Yarmuth (D-KY)
Education and the Workforce Virginia Foxx (R-NC) Robert Scott (D-VA)
Energy and Commerce Greg Walden (R-OR) Frank Pallone (D-NJ)
Ethics Susan Brooks (R-IN)
Financial Services Jeb Hensarling (R-TX) Maxine Waters (D-CA)
Foreign Affairs Ed Royce (R-CA) Eliot Engel (D-NY)
Homeland Security Michael McCaul (R-TX) Bennie Thompson (D-MS)
House Administration Gregg Harper (R-MS) Bob Brady (D-PA)
Judiciary Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) John Conyers (D-MI)
Natural Resources Rob Bishop (R-UT) Raúl Grijalva (D-AZ)
Oversight and Government Reform Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) Elijah Cummings (D-MD)
Rules Pete Sessions (R-TX) Louise Slaughter (D-NY)
Science, Space & Technology Lamar S. Smith (R-TX) Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-TX)
Small Business Steve Chabot (R-OH) Nydia Velázquez (D-NY)
Transportation and Infrastructure Bill Shuster (R-PA) Peter DeFazio (D-OR)
Veterans’ Affairs Phil Roe (R-TN)
Ways and Means Kevin Brady (R-TX) Richard Neal (D-MA)
Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Devin Nunes (R-CA) Adam Schiff (D-CA)

Main article: List of current United States congressional joint committees

Committee Chairman Vice Chairman Ranking Member
Joint Economic Committee Rep. Pat Tiberi (R-OH) Sen. Martin Heinrich (D-NM)
Joint Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies (Special) Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO) Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY)


should read: 115TH Congress


Hurt/Hate GOP


In nearly seven years since Obamacare passed, dozens of comprehensive health-care alternatives have been introduced, but none has gotten off the ground. The most developed plan so far is legislation by House Budget Chairman Tom Price of Georgia, Trump’s nominee to run the Department of Health and Human Services, which he introduced in every Congress since 2009. It had 84 cosponsors in the House.

But that bill — centered on age-based refundable tax credits to buy insurance — didn’t receive a hearing in committee, nor was it included in Price’s budget that was adopted by the House last year.

If Republicans stick together, repeal could happen quickly. The Senate plans to move first on a nonbinding budget resolution instructing committees to draft repeal legislation, with the House approving it next. The resulting proposals would be sent for final votes under a process known as reconciliation, which is used to bypass the 60-vote threshold in the Senate.

Key players tasked with executing the plan will be Senate Finance Chairman Orrin Hatch of Utah and Health Chairman Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, and on the House side, Ways and Means Chairman Kevin Brady of Texas and incoming Energy and Commerce Chairman Greg Walden of Oregon.

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, along with House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and New York Sen. Charles Schumer, sent a letter to congressional colleagues across the United States this week demanding they host major rallies ahead of Trump’s inauguration on Jan. 20.

The three Democratic leaders called for a “day of action” on Jan. 15, in which thousands of grassroots activists will urge President-elect Donald Trump to protect health care coverage for millions of Americans who benefit from government-funded programs like Medicare and Medicaid.

“Beginning in January, it is likely that Republican leaders in Congress will follow through on their threats to ram through a budget bill that will severely undermine the health care needs of the American people,” the letter sent Wednesday read. Their predictions for what a budget bill spearheaded by the GOP will feature include “slashing Medicaid and threatening the nursing home care of over four million vulnerable seniors; increasing prescriptions drug prices more than $1,000 a year for over five million seniors and persons with disabilities; and passing a $4,800 tax hike on millions of average Americans, while providing hundreds of billions in tax breaks to the wealthiest people across the country.”

Interesting, Alex, confusing though because I kept reading yesterday that it would take years to repeal Obamacare.

Another thing I am confused about, why isn’t a story breaking on Trump and Russia, Todd kept saying that there was stuff out there, so was Rick Wilson, Eischenewald has been writing about it since way before the elections. How come someone is not breaking a big story that MUST be out there?

This man is just getting away with everything, no tax returns, Russian connections, business conflicts, I keep thinking that someone must come out with something that will end this thing before it gets going on the 20th. There has been much astrological talk about the end of the year ending with a bang, the world not being the same etc., not that I am wishing for a disaster, but I was hoping something with this upcoming nightmarish presidency, I guess maybe I am still in denial??!!

Senate Dems Demand to Know EPA Nominee’s Ties to Koch Brothers


Apple, Absolutely Correct…we need trusted alternative news sites desperately! YouTube is full of malicious Obama (She’s a HE). And tons of Pizza Gate Garbage, it wasn’t this way a year or two ago. Crazy Has Escalated!
Even Comments on WSJ are outrageous! After watching Part 1 of “The World At War-Episode”, I honestly belive something similar could happen again right here in the USA with Lunatic Trump and his brainwashed awe-struck followers. If you’ve not viewed the Documentary, please do: The World At War-Episode #1 A New Germany (1933–1939) World War II Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3H0K0Afk20

Psychic Christian Dion is refusing to publish 2017 predictions because what he sees is worse than 2016. He says “to be honest what is about to come is so dark I would be accused of stirring things up if I were to post it.”

So it’s been celebrity fluff until today, when he posted:
“These Arseholes may all start 2017 on a high.
But by the end of the year.
They “ALL” will either have fallen,
from their “Ivory Towers”.
Or the masses will be planting,
the explosives in the basement.”

Bashar al Assad
Golden Dawn Neo-Nazis in Greece
Marine Le Pen
Donald Trump
Pauline Hanson
Theresa May
David Miscavige
Paul Nuttal
President Putin.


Strangely, I’m not looking at the prospect of a Trump presidency with despair now as was my first initial response (an understandable reaction). The instinct is to naturally recoil in horror and be in denial. But I think there is another side to the story that is not being countenanced. We are now on the fast track towards real change. Finally! Things will not be the same. We will have no choice but to go within. It will be a challenge, but well worth the struggle. We are now being given permission to leave the old establishment behind us and embark on a new path. The destruction of the old and the beginning of the new. That’s actually quite exciting. Much to look forward to. I say that without cynicism.

One of my favorite discourses on the matter; a word of uplifting encouragement comes from Meher Baba’s discourse The New Humanity…..

“As in all great critical periods of human history, humanity is now going through the agonizing travail of spiritual rebirth. Great forces of destruction are afoot and seem to be dominant at the moment, but constructive and creative forces that will redeem humanity are also being released through several channels. Although the working of these forces of light is chiefly silent, they are eventually bound to bring about those transformations that will make the further spiritual advance of humanity safe and steady. It is all a part of the divine plan, which is to give to the hungry and weary world a fresh dispensation of the eternal and only Truth.

At present the urgent problem facing humanity is to devise ways and means of eliminating competition, conflict, and rivalry in all the subtle and gross forms that they assume in the various spheres of life. Military wars are, of course, the most obvious sources of chaos and destruction. However, wars in themselves do not constitute the central problem for humanity but are rather the external symptoms of something graver at their root. Wars and the suffering they bring cannot be completely avoided by mere propaganda against war; if they are to disappear from human history, it will be necessary to tackle their root cause.



Any signs of Alzheimer’s in DT’s chart? It’s hereditary and was the cause of his father’s death.

Thank you Jerry… I need to remember that times of great growth are often preceded by times of great pain.

After checking my work for trump on New Years Eve I must say it very well could be physical discomfort he experiences but with Secret Service protection it would seem that if it is physical it might be from overtaxing his system in some manner (admitted speed freak Eliseo). Overdose or past catching up with him?

If just psychological there are many avenues one of which could be bad news delivered face to face by a guest to avoid any electronic or hard copy trail.

I have not been indulging holiday spirits early. Just indulge me you teetotalers.

Suppose the donald is taking a play from the Mafia playbook and instead of having underlings report directly to him they report to Jr. who then reports to him. He could have the SS stand off for personal conversations with his son (his Capo -“The capo, or caporegime, is the captain or lieutenant of a division within the Mafia. He heads a crew of soldiers and reports directly to a boss or underboss, who hands down the instructions. He ranks much higher in the hierarchy of the Mafia.”)

The man is not to be trusted even for a moment.

Dream not of sugar-plums but of Eliot Ness frog marching der donald to the Black Maria.


After 70 years in the making it is not likely that trump will change his real self. After re-reading the following (and linking the astrology of his chart) I think trump may be a psychopath rather than a sociopath.


He will hurt his base before he is through and they will turn on him.


a practical guide for resisting the trump agenda

he’s already told his base he doesn’t need them now that they voted for him. I hope that wasn’t fake news.

He needs their votes if he desires to get re-elected and the GOP needs their votes to get into or remain in office down the ticket.

Lose their votes; lose offices.


You’re probably right about DT’s prognosis. Peeps with personality disorders are pretty much the assholes of the world – and they cause pain for everyone who isn’t. Its almost if as if he is constitutionally incapable of being truthful.

Regarding his physical problem on New Year’s – he might pass-out from his full-body Spanks being to tight.

Not just DT. How many R’s looked the other way, minimized, denied what they knew was happening with the Russian hacking, obstructed any investigation, etc.?

My reference:
Need be frog marched by Eliot Ness…

I will share this with you all, FWIW. I had a dream back during the Bush II years that after the end of the Cold War, we were somehow “not yet done” with the threat of nukes and nuclear war. Some time would pass, and there would indeed be one last “final push” for all out nuclear war by some extreme, nihilistic element in our government absurdly confident in our own success, survival and triumph. BUT this push and the resulting brinksmanship with the rest of the world would represent the last straw for most people the world over who have no desire to stand idle and allow life on Earth to be completely destroyed in the name of madness and abject stupidity.

I don’t recall how exactly it all ended up, and I did not foresee DT or anyone like him as President, but the nihilists were blocked and overthrown, and people in the US turned away for good from a desire for war and the whole Military-Industrial complex, having been jolted at the brink of MADness.

I had a thought that maybe this is the real test of our Pluto Return here in the US, coming face to face with the full implications of our power and realizing, finally truly realizing, that for all we are capable of doing to destroy our enemies real or imagined, we will invariably see the same or similar measures of destruction visited upon us. One way or another, we will never be the same as a country after 2022. Perhaps we as a country could emerge from this period and develop a healthier relationship with death in general, seeing as how it is something so many of us are terrified of, even as we arm ourselves to the teeth with guns and enough weaponry to supply an army several times over.


I get a sense that once the Rethugs sober up from the euphoria of the Inauguration, DT’s cabinet of ossified ideologues will engage in all kinds of power plays. Trump will get paranoid and go Celebrity Apprentice on their asses; he will fire anyone who threatens his ideas or agenda. His characteristic arrogance toward the law will likely give rise to several Constitutional crises. After a quarter or two of his brand of chaos, karma will come a-calling on Capitol Hill and there will be mutiny in the Oval Office.

Simply musing here.


Baba died in 1969 – in what year do you suppose he wrote the prophecy you quoted?

Hi Will,

“Died” presumes Meher Baba is no longer relevant or exists. I don’t think that is the case with Baba. “Dropped the body” is a more acceptable term that is generally used.

The above discourse (one of many) was dictated in the early 1940’s during the onset of World War Two. If you read the piece in its entirety; with an open mind, one derives the feeling that it is not relegated to any limitations of time. In other words, its significance is equally applicable to todays circumstances.

This time their hateful target is not to harm the Jews…but to eliminate those that are tolerant, free from prejudice and bigotry: The Liberals!

Very interesting reading the last few entries, thanks for sharing the dream buckeyeshadow, very interesting indeed. It is quite telling now that after being all about the wall and immigration, that this Russian thing is developing and he tweeted that we need to develop our nuclear arsenal, then Russia said the same.

LG, he did say to his people I don’t need your votes now, then he quickly said I will in four years. Imagine the Repubs couldn’t win without the vote, and DT was and is their guy, thus for now he is their God.

I was listening to a podcast yesterday and they were talking about the fact that now that a person like Donald has won, the Dems will be realizing that for 2020 they may be able to have an unconventional canditate too, e.g. A celebrity, or a CEO and will be looking for this person…. I guess a new bar on who can run has been set !

Well, Diana, we have had celebrities become successful in politics before, but I hope the bar will never again be as low as it is now for a presidential candidate. Unconventional is not a bad thing & I’m sure a case can be made that people like Lincoln and Roosevelt were unconventional (Carter was a peanut farmer) but they came with the the other necessary character traits!

Yes sharon, agreed , that is what makes this one so darn depressing, no one DIDNT DESERVE this job more than the orange buffoon…

Here’s another version of that, ja. Yes, VERY encouraging – I like Obama’s spunk and am wondering if he is going to move forward with Garland while he can!


I believe our Jerry has hit upon the essence of our present state, we of the U.S. and we of the world. He says in his comment of 12/30 at 9:06 PM, “We are now on the fast track towards real change” and we have been “given permission to leave the old establishment behind us and embark on a new path”. Succinctly put Jerry.

Often when 2 planets make a conjunction there is little evidence detected of any change. I believe that is because transiting conjunctions are like being a little pregnant. Nobody knows but the mom-to-be. The conjunctions must separate and form new aspects to one another in order to get a sense of their likely manifestation.

In the years of 2009 and 2010 two transiting planets were conjunct and they were joined by a third planet. Together they made a total of 3 exact conjunctions to one another (technically it was 5 conjunctions since one of the planets went retrograde then forward adding 2 more).

Normally, this kind of astro activity would garner much discussion but there was another transiting 3-planet pattern going on at the time that would capture the attention of most astrologers. It was transiting Saturn’s repeated oppositions to transiting Uranus and his squares with transiting Pluto that would be the focus of the majority of astrology buzz.

And that was as it should be, because, one of the 3 planets conjoined (off and on) in 2009 and 10 was Neptune and Neptune does not normally relish the spotlight. Were these 6 planets working in concert? It is elementary my dears, of course they were.

Here is why that is so. Transiting Neptune, Jupiter and Chiron in 2009 and 2010 were also conjunct the U.S. natal Moon and she is the symbol of the U.S. People who – to some degree – were to become besotted with a sham of a man who promised them a way out of the wilderness.

Neptune has that effect. Neptune with Jupiter increases that effect by 10 fold. Neptune with Jupiter and Chiron adds the element of pain that strives to increase consciousness, as well as the element of healing such a pain.

These 3, Neptune, Jupiter and Chiron were beginning their respective cycles atop the symbol of the U.S. citizenry, while the world watched, horrified at the destruction and mayhem associated with the transiting T-squared Saturn, Pluto and Uranus. The U.S. citizenry was being prepared for a search for escape from the “old establishment” and thereby find a “new path”.

We have analyzed to death the reasons why Donald Trump became the new leader of the free world however, Neptune doesn’t leave such obvious clues, but rather prefers a blind search for truth and salvation. Now, Jupiter and Chiron, having moved forward from their three-planet conjunction with the U.S Moon, are much more down to earth.

Not until trans. Jupiter moved into the sign of Gemini in 2012 did the “little bit pregnant” conjunctions of 2009-10 to U.S. Moon begin to show. Transiting Jupiter in Gemini would first square transiting Neptune in Pisces then square transiting Chiron in Pisces. The U.S. citizenry (impregnated by trans. Neptune, Jupiter and Chiron) would be showing their dissatisfaction with the “old establishment” and searching for a “new path”.

Meanwhile, trans. Jupiter would also interact with the other transiting threesome, Uranus, Pluto and Saturn, in ways that would produce greater stimulation, real-world stimulation. We, as a whole, might not see it clearly, but we felt it. U.S. Moon, like all Moons, heightens feelings. The U.S. 2010 midterm elections proved that.

Now it was 2012 and with Jupiter in Gemini, would the U.S. citizenry abandon Obama on election day? Transiting Mercury was stationing retrograde and just shy of a square with transiting Chiron (who had participated in getting the U.S. Moon pregnant in 2009-10) on election day. Transiting Mercury had just made a conjunction to Obama’s natal Moon a few days earlier; Obama would not be abandoned by the U.S. citizenry.

However, by July, 2015, transiting Jupiter in Leo was opposite the U.S. Moon in Aquarius, at the same time he, Jupiter, was squaring transiting Saturn in Scorpio. This was the junction; a connecting of the two triple-transiting planet patterns of 2009-10 with the U.S. Moon in a most challenging pattern, the T-square.

Jupiter had reached his half-way point with the cycle he had started when he conjoined the U.S. Moon. Two months later, from Virgo, he would oppose transiting Neptune in Pisces and 2 months after that he would oppose transiting Chiron.

This is where the rubber meets the road; the midway point of any cycle, the opposition. Transiting Jupiter had run the gauntlet of opposing U.S. Moon, then transiting Neptune and then transiting Chiron, all the members of the many cycles that had begun (with little fanfare) in 2009-10. All would be revealed (in a pregnant full-moon kind of way) at this time near the end of 2015.

And yet, we were surprised, even shocked. Who was this man, so many thought of as a buffoon, a carni-man selling snake oil to cure all our ills, who had buffaloed so many U.S. people? Were they mad? Hell yes, they were mad.

It has been a process then; the world, and specifically the U.S. citizenry has been pummeled and churned into an alchemy blend of feelings and thought just ripe for new awareness. As transiting Uranus stationed direct on the U.S. Chiron while opposing transiting Jupiter in Libra conjunct the U.S Juno, we begin to understand the pain of inequality.

As transiting Neptune has squared the U.S Uranus and conjoined the U.S. Ceres and Nessus, our blinders have been removed and we (as a whole)now witness the shock of delayed recognition of that suffering. As transiting Pluto moves away from his T-square to the U.S. natal Sun-Saturn square, his mission to break the back of the very foundation that has allowed this suffering is made plain to the world.

It is a new day and now we rebuild what was flawed from the beginning. A pregnant U.S. Moon is providing us opportunities that we were blind to before this election. A new leader is awaiting to ascend to power; the U.S. Moon in Aquarius sits very near his 7th house cusp, acting as his partner (7th house) or his open enemy (7th house). Much, if not all, depends on how the Universe plans to utilize the carni-man.

In a few days transiting Pluto reaches an exact quincunx with carni-man’s natal Uranus at 17+ Gemini. It is already producing, in him, a pressure to “adjust”, what always happens in a quincunx. This past month transiting Saturn has opposed his natal Uranus, eliciting confrontation, what often happens in an opposition.

This month transiting Jupiter also trined carni-man’s Uranus (as did transiting Mars) producing bellicose and belligerent behavior as only the unconscious and easily manipulated people of the world do.

I for one believe there is a method to the apparent madness we are witnessing. We can fear the future, easy enough under these circumstances, or we can marvel at the clever and much-more-wise-than-we Universe, and wait for our cue to start down the new path opening before us.

Wishing you a Happy and Healthy 2017 everyone! I do hope the Trumpistas have minimal effect on your personal wellbeing!
Marjorie Orr has commented, Trump’s ‘enemies close at hand’

Amazing Video explains the Trump Phenomenon! Expert explains:
“How & Why Donald Trump Stole America. The Pathological / Malignant Narcissist”.
47-Minutes Long

Also Astrologer seems nutty, but several others are saying the exact same: “On the Health and Death of Donald Trump: Astrology, Prophecy, and Assassination”
(Do you Astrologers here see this?)

Kiwi…That Marjorie Orr piece is something else. Did my heart good to read it, in the sense that the Puppet is not going to have an easy time of it and nor are the Cons.


Re:Marjorie Orr

“A President at war with his own party? In politics there are always egos clashing but the Republicans have landed themselves with an enormous problem in Trump. And the Democrats won’t be shy about pointing out that the GOP own him and his nominees – and all their back stories. If it wasn’t so important it would be blackly funny and good spectator sport.”

Marvelous! I couldn’t agree more.

Thank you JA for NYT piece. Bravo for PBO! Every measure Trump attempts to undo will become crystal clear to the American People…Left and Right!

The times ahead in 2017 may seem dark, but please remember this: Big business & multi-national corporations will never again in our lifetimes have as much power and influence as they do at this time, due to Pluto’s transit of Capricorn. Trump likely represent the pinnacle of this particular type of influence and power within our world and our lives, as it now makes a massive power grab to control and dismantle our democratic institutions and traditions here in the US and elsewhere. This will continue to build through the approaching Saturn-Pluto conjunction in Capricorn.

Once Saturn ingresses into Aquarius late in 2020, however, we should begin to see a noticeable shift away from conservative & corporate/resource-driven politics, towards an emphasis on social organizing, humanitarianism and rationalism. Perhaps this will highlight the ways in which we have fallen short in these areas while also paving the way for deeper and more transformative changes to come when Pluto ingresses into Aquarius beginning in 2023.

Not that corporations and people like the Kochs will automatically lose interest in meddling in politics in 2020 or 2023, but they may have fewer resources in order to do so, or else they will face increasing opposition from people and groups that have caught on to their methodology and who will act successfully at these times to put a stop to it, and to them.

Woe to any among the elites who believe they will be able to enjoy impunity for an indefinite period! I don’t see us bringing back the guillotine, which the French used during their revolution, the last time Pluto was in Aquarius, but I do genuinely believe Trump and members of his Administration, as well as many corporate elites could very well face trial and do actual prison time for their avarice and corruption. A time is coming when even their vast fortunes will not be enough to shield them from justice.

That’s very interesting BuckeyeShadow, that bit about Pluto in Aquarius. Whenever I would whine about the state of the world and politics my friend Sally McDonald would tell me it would all begin to change in 2020. Which would annoy me even more as it semed so far away. But lately, I’ve been reading a lot of predictions about that time and I now know she was right. The thing is, no one, not even she (at least I don’t think so but the fault could be mine as she was an excellent astrologer), explained it as a Pluto in Aquarius influence and related it back to the French Revolution. The clouds are parting and I have to say you and Marjorie Orr have handed out hope this very New Year’s eve.

M., I remember Sally… I do wonder what she would have to say now about DT as President, of all people? Her astrological insights are sorely missed in these times.

One thing I did recall her mentioning a few times on Astroworld–and perhaps you do as well–that there would come a time when the leaders of the US (presumably of a far more enlightened mindset than that of the incoming admin) would be assembled behind closed doors for several days in discussion about what to do about governing the country in a time of crisis. She said they would come out of it and present to the people the U.S. Constitution, same as the one we have now.

My takeaway from this was that only our interpretation of the Constitution need to have shifted, and that will indeed be the case by such a time. From the “living document” perspective, this certainly makes sense. Writing a brand new constitution may be unnecessary when we have the amendment process which could indeed allow for sweeping and constructive change.

The United States actually has a number of Pluto Returns coming up beyond our Dec. of Independence/founding chart in 2022, if you count the Constitution ratification itself, along with the initial meetings of Congress, and Washington’s administration–the establishment of the Office of the President, as well as the Supreme Court.

While the Dec. of Independence–and the US as a nation has Pluto in Capricorn, many other components of our government actually have Pluto in Aquarius, including the Constitution, suggesting a contrast in themes that will emerge as the United States proceeds through a massive period of transition and change during the 2020s and 2030s.

Pluto in Capricorn = Power to private for-profit organizations (e.g. Corporations), centralized governments (e.g. national, states), the elites/1% (e.g. CEOs, bankster executives, global jet-set, investors, etc), conservative/traditionalist ideals and principles, authoritarianism, the security/police state, boundaries/walls/borders.

Pluto in Aquarius = Power to shared/public organizations (e.g. Co-Ops), political factions/groups/parties, decentralized governments (e.g. cities/metro-regional, independent republics), the masses/common people, social justice/liberty, humanism, radicals (far-left and far-right), the new and revolutionary, all that is forward-looking and futuristic, scientific breakthroughs, technological advances, breaking down walls, old ideas, and traditions to create new ones.

It’s impossible right now to say how it will all play out, particularly with Uranian/Aquarian themes and energies involved–the Uranus-Pluto trine from 2025 to about 2032 should be a particularly “high energy” time in multiple respects, with Uranus in Gemini. But if I were to hazard a general guess, we will probably at the very least see a shift away from obsessive national politics and centralized governance based around Washington D.C. But even state capitals may not necessarily emerge to replace DC in a relative spotlight, some of which have also benefitted from Pluto in Cap’s centralization tendencies in their respective states.

With Pluto in Aquarius, we will probably see greater emphasis on regional alliances based upon shared economic ties, resources, and culture that transcends current state and in some cases national boundaries (e.g. the South, “Cascadia”, Rust Belt/Great Lakes, New England, etc.), maybe even supplanting the former in some way or another, particularly if it sees a dramatic weakening and loss of legitimacy on some level, such as due to an economic crash, DT presidency, Pluto Return, or all of the above.

It’s also possible we will see some kind of Constitutional amendment that establishes a number of large cities and their metro areas as special federal districts, similar to the District of Columbia, with accompanying federal recognition and ungerrymandered representation in Congress. This in particular might go a long way towards addressing the current political disparity favoring sparsely populated rural areas over high-density cities.

Apologies on the length of my last post. I know this has been a general issue here in the past. Chalk it up to a bit of inspiration I received on the threshold of 2017. But I will resolve to space them out better from now on.

BuckeyeShadow…no apologies! Your post(s) have been so thought provoking and inspiring me to study further. The constitution as a living document, the new “version”…it really shines a light on the path ahead. I truly loved it all and thank you for the inspiration you received on the threshold of 2017! You did good on the passing it forward!


I must reiterate shoalsister’s message. No need for apology. Good reminders re: coming Pluto returns (PLURAL!) Many Thanks!

Patty, responding to your post of 12/31 at 6:37 p.m., I have been watching GianPaolo DiCocco’s vids for the last few weeks and have subscribed to him on YouTube. Thank you for posting the one about Trump here. I enjoy his delivery and I think he would make a good comedian, should he ever try that out. The guy also obviously knows his astrology and has done the research. It will be interesting to see if his interpretation of Trump’s chart does manifest in the way he suggests.

I can’t link to the Marjorie Orr page.
Cool to hear what everyone says about obama I agree, of course according to Fox News obama is behaving terribly got a glimpse of it yesterday with awful Kelly Anne Conway on. It’s like a different planet over there

Well trumps ego seems huger than ever, I have yet to see signs of any of the predicted difficulties he would be facing yet. He seems to be enjoying himself immensely , and instead of press conferences he is obviously going to continue to use Twitter as his tool. And probably YouTube.

Thanks for all the great insights people. Happy new year to everyone

Going to look at the GianPaolo DiCocco’s videos, I too have been seeing a lot of talk on his assasination , very interesting , what do people here think?

Any of you guys follow Scott Adams blog, he disturbingly predicted trumps rise and victory because trump is what he calls a master persuader, anyway today he has one about Bernie


In his astrological presentations, GianPaulo is no doubt an amusing, if not controversial character of sorts. He is not shy about sharing his enthusiasm for astrology with others in detailed sometimes grandiose style. Unfortunately for GianPaulo, one gets the feeling he is also motivated by all the attention, which consequently and sadly (to me at least) diminishes his credibility as a professional. It is a shame really, because he really is a good astrologer.

He is also a staunch Donald Trump supporter who thoroughly enjoys brandishing Trump style caps and sweatshirts with the slogan “Make Astrology Great Again”. Apparently he has been known to aggressively slander other youtube astrologers, at times threatening them with lawsuits if anything is said in negative protest (see related video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GniHMUOZdTs ). Once again, a very colorful figure indeed.

BuckeyeShadow, how lovely that you can speak of Sally. I think she would’ve been horrified by Trump but not surprised. She would’ve seen him as the necessary corrective pain. She always said that once we reached 2020, a tremendous shift would come to this country and the ills would be redressed. I think she’d be quite in agreement with your theory.

Trump is a con man but very effective at marketing himself, which is why so many voters were taken in.

Kiwi, the link for this is not valid. Do you know how I can find the article so I can read it?

Marjorie Orr has commented, Trump’s ‘enemies close at hand’



It worked earlier – it appears that her server is down. Try again later this afternoon is my suggestion.

Here’s the 1st part of the Orr piece…

“President Obama’s belated move against Russian interference in the USA election by expelling diplomats is deemed to have been undercut by Putin’s oily and scathing non-retaliation in anticipation of Trump’s coming. In reality it has thrown a spanner into the heart of the Republican Party, traditionally very anti-Russian, which it’ll be more than interesting to watch play out.

Everyone is playing games. Putin wants a Trump friendship since Trump is perceived to be anti-NATO/EU and thus won’t kick up a fuss if Putin makes further moves in eastern Europe and consolidates gains in the Ukraine/Crimea. Trump can’t admit the Russians interfered with the election since it would tarnish his glorious personal victory. But it’ll be harder to deny given that the Germans are now on high alert with evidence of Russian cyber interference in preparation for their forthcoming elections.

Obama has pushed Trump into a corner since any moves to forge closer ties with Russia is likely to meet fierce resistance from a bipartisan coalition in Congress, who have promised even tougher measures against Russia, with or without the President’s approval. Republican senators John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio would certainly go for an all-out confrontation with Trump. One commentator even went so far as to say that if Trump went too far off message that the Republican leadership (Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell) could get him impeached (no shortage of smoking guns), which would put the more traditionally conservative Mike Pence in situ in the White House. So it wouldn’t even need a Democratic majority after the 2018 elections.”…

The 2nd. part

“Trump’s relationships with senior Republicans:

Paul Ryan – an irritable relationship at best with a composite Mars Saturn, it is sagging disastrously through 2017 with tr Neptune square the composite Saturn Mars from April 2017 to late 2019; with indications of a stand-off in 2018 as tr Uranus is conjunct the composite Venus, and opposing Neptune in 2019.

Mitch McConnell – marginally friendlier than Ryan, but power-struggling and not on a common agenda. Again 2018 looks like cutlery-in-the-air time with tr Uranus conjunct the composite Sun and then Venus; with a spat earlier in late April/May, November 2017.

Mike Pence, VP – simmering hostility with a composite Mars Pluto; suspicion and doubt from composite Sun trine Saturn Neptune; differing agendas from Uranus square Saturn Neptune. A high-anxiety, confused 2017 with tr Pluto square the composite Saturn/Neptune midpoint, worsening in 2018 with perhaps scandals emerging into an even more chaotic phase between them; with emotional outbursts and distancing from tr Uranus square the composite Venus.

John McCain – outright dislike and power-struggling with a Saturn (Uranus) opposition Jupiter square Mars Mercury Venus; and a controlling Sun Pluto conjunction. Will be jousting through 2017 with tr Pluto sextile the game-playing Jupiter; with some low blows from tr Saturn square the composite Neptune. And worsening dramatically in 2018 with tr Pluto trine Saturn and tr Uranus square the composite Sun.”

The last part

“Lindsey Graham – again active dislike and hostility from a composite Mars Pluto; and a disruptive Uranus conjunct Sun, Venus and square Neptune. Will sag through 2017, becoming even more pessimistic about damage in 2018.

Marco Rubio – aggravated through 2017/18 with tr Pluto sextile the composite Mars; and undermined with tr Neptune square their composite Sun through 2017/18.

Mitt Romney – again 2018 is highlighted as high-noon time; with tr Uranus conjunct the composite Venus (which is conjunct Sun square Pluto) and tr Uranus square Saturn.

A President at war with his own party? In politics there are always egos clashing but the Republicans have landed themselves with an enormous problem in Trump. And the Democrats won’t be shy about pointing out that the GOP own him and his nominees – and all their back stories. If it wasn’t so important it would be blackly funny and good spectator sport.”

Hey PYW, I wrote about that con-man characteristic of Trump’s (see my just-released-from-captivity comment of 12/31, 4:41 PM) and how the U.S. Public (part of it anyway) came to fall for it so hard.

There is another astrological marker; transiting Sedna (she who accepted a proposal of marriage from a con-man/bird) has been conjunct Trump’s MC (reputation) for a couple of years now.

As a matter of fact, haven’t we all been conned? If it weren’t for Trump we might never have willingly ended the established structures that will now begin to crumble as foretold by Pluto-in-Capricorn squared by Uranus-in-Aries. As Jerry put it so well, we have been “given permission to leave the old establishment behind”.

M & Buckeye, great comments! I also remember lengthy chats with Sally around the time gw was elected. (I miss her too)
One of the things she mentioned to me was that she used the chart for the east india company as representative of for-profit corporations. Not certain if this is the same date she used, but I have in my records 31 Dec 1600 noon – sun, ceres, nn, mars, pallas, mercury, all in cap. Natal pluto at 22aries right on 23aries asc.
Since politics have been so corporatized (and will be more so with trump), perhaps that is a chart to be looked at too?

Kiwi…I completely forgot she said she used that chart and said the company was the real reason for the revolution and how the founders were specifically concerned with preventing it’s influence and that of other monopolies in their new country.

LA Times profile of astrologer Chani Nicholas, who veers into leftist politics in her posts: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-himi-astrologer-chani-nicholas-20170101-story.html

Ed Tamplin

wow – talk about out of control!
Trump forces biographer who was playing with David Koch off golf course.
“Hurt’s Facebook post says that Trump “had his security detail escort Hurt, Koch, and their playing partners to the parking lot,” and that Koch “was appalled,” and criticized Trump as “petty” and “vulgar.”

Thanks jerry, I couldn’t sit through much of it, basically he thinks trump will have this sacrificial death, but at the same time says that he absolutely will get in again in 2020 and no democrat can beat him. I have better things to do with my time, I am sure he knows his astrology as you say but obviously loves trump. As does Joni patry who gives me the creeps and I won’t even watch now.

However I think it would be interesting to hear from some of the astrologers here if trumps chart does indeed show an abrupt turn in his health and life, it seems that there are other astrologers out there who talk about it and possible assasination.

Jerry. I had posted this loony astrologer earlier and wondered if learned Astrologers here thought his description of Trump’s dire coming aspects were valid: “On the Health and Death of Donald Trump: Astrology, Prophecy, and Assassination”
Wow, Trump is burning valuable GOP Bridges after Koch’s have spent so much Money on ‘Citizens United’ to Brainwash Half The Country!:
“The Billionaires’ Tea Party”
(It will be the Grand Old Party themselves who knocks Trump Off…
his stride)

TJ, thanks for the Chani Nicholas link — I enjoyed reading her 2017 forecast.


GianPaulo’s astrological assessments seem to be well presented and well thought out. I think he has a genuine talent. But you may have to take that into context. He fancies himself as a modern day Nostradamus with heavily accented Donald Trump leanings and a hot headed temper to boot (he tends to delete comments and/or block other posters on his facebook page when he finds himself at odds or in disagreement). There’s definitely an agenda there. I’m not dismissing what he has to say. Some of his ideas are quite intelligent. But as you say, he is something of an oddball.

Any thoughts on Rick Levine?


I’ve watched and read quite a few of Joni Patry’s videos and articles. I rather enjoy her commentary and astrological presentations. My sense of her is that she is politically neutral. At least that has been my impression.


I wasn’t sure if you were directing that question to me. If you were, for what it’s worth, I think Rick Levine is brilliant. I find him to be very pleasant and well informed. Didn’t his astrological co-host who appears with him in his seminars die recently? I forgot his name.

Thanks jerry, yes I really like Rick and think he is brilliant, I am new to him so didn’t know about co host.

Regarding patry, the first few videos I was fine with, but I find she is always predicting drama that doesn’t seem to happen and is too mysterious, also in her latest video, it’s all about Trump being some kind of savior and fantastic president and I just thought it was too much. Have you seen that one where she talks about him?


Is this the video you are referring to….

Joni Patry On Major Upcoming World Events via Vedic Astrology


I did in fact watch it a couple of weeks ago. Perhaps I wasn’t reviewing Joni’s comments closely enough. Frankly I didn’t notice anything that suggests partiality to Donald Trump (that he would be a “savior and a fantastic president”). Can you guide me to the section you were referring to that left you with that impression?

Vedic Astrology Predictions for 2017
This is one of the few astrologers that saw Trump winning the election.

I do have difficulty imagining anything positive coming out of a Trump presidency but admit to feeling that there is some fate/karma involved. At any rate I thought I’d post an email I received from Joni Patry that might better explain her point of view on Trump – as a collective projection of sorts. Sorry for the length:

Spiritual Insights January 2017

Everyone has an opinion for the future based on their political views. The world is in a curious place. The U.S. is divided by extremes on both sides. I wonder why people are so overly emotional concerning politics. The one thing that I believe should unite us is that we all want the same thing, a better world and humanity. I hope we can all agree on this. The separation comes from the ways we believe this can come about. A core reason is people have the need to be right. I always remind myself of the powerful saying in The Course of Miracles, “Would you rather be right or would you rather be happy?” Being right validates the sense of who we are. A person’s core essence is based on their beliefs which are formed through our life’s experiences beginning in childhood. This formulates our perception of the world.

Astrologically speaking the transit of Saturn into Sagittarius concerns me since it is the sign of righteousness and fundamentalism. The world is leaning more in that direction than ever before. Furthermore, by the end of 2019 Pluto, Saturn, Jupiter and Ketu will all be in Sagittarius with Rahu in Gemini in the nakshatra Ardra. This indicates extremist behavior concerning fundamentalism. During the time of September 11, 2001 Mars and Ketu were in Sagittarius (Mula) and Rahu and Jupiter were in Gemini (Ardra) and Saturn and Pluto were in aspect (opposition). So the signs of extreme fundamentalism will be activated even more extremely than before.

Observing the reactions of people through the response of this U.S. Presidential election is a fascinating study. Any event outside of ourselves gives us the opportunity to truly see ourselves. The way to understand the core of our being based on our past comes through the initial emotional reaction we experience from the stimuli in our environment. The more emotionally charged, the better the opportunity to understand where the core of the reaction is coming from.

People believe their way of thinking is right and justified. But if there is a powerful emotion triggered from an event then it has a negative effect on the physical body. Consequently, unbeknown to them it affects all other areas of their lives.

In trying to understand the reaction I received concerning my predictions for Donald Trump I was dismayed by the extreme emotional responses. The reactions are over the top emotionally charged. On one occasion I pried a little to understand this phenomenon. I came away with a better understanding of the core issue of what this all about.

When I told a friend I thought based on the astrology that Donald Trump will be a great president. This struck a deep nerve in her. I tried to explain based on his natal Jupiter (stationary) that he just entered the Jupiter dasha and this planet along with three other planets connect to the U.S. chart. This angered her considerably. She reacted with a nasty fire in her eyes. She was obviously emotionally charged and kept repeatedly using the word “hate”. I told her the more she kept using the word “hate” the more she would deplete and lower her energy level. Over and over she said “I hate him.” The issues of money, selfishness, insurance, womanizing and even the comparison of Nazi Germany poured out of her mouth. Then the finger came back at me for being a bad immoral person for condoning this person in any way. I kept reminding her that this was based on astrology but she never heard me on this account (like many on my Youtube channel). People hear only what they want to hear! But then she began attacking my character. As I stepped away from this conflict I thought I should not have said anything because of course I didn’t feel well after this unreasonable confrontation especially with a friend I have had for 30 years.

But then as I stood back to analyze this uncomfortable confrontation it gave me the insight to try to understand what was at the bottom of this to better help understand why people react in such a way. I was later grateful because I now understand what is at the base of reactions from those that overreact on these issues.

In the process of our conversation I asked her why she was so angry (this will definitely strike a chord for those that do not want to see). She, of course, said she was not angry. I told her she was angry and this has to be based on some deep seated issues relative to what this man represents to her, and that it brings up her past resentments. The one thing I got out of her is that he is a “selfish man” and she hates selfish people. I said then this must relate to the selfish men in your life; her two ex-husbands and her father. This was probably probing too deep but I thought knowing her so long and all the therapy she has been in that this could help. I told her I was trying to help her, but she exclaimed “I am perfectly fine”.

Donald Trump represents an egotistical, immoral, selfish, materialistic, womanizer to many people. The fact that he will be inaugurated as the president of U.S. this month represents to many the loss of our morals and the demise of goodness in our world. He doesn’t pay his taxes while the average worker in the U.S. pays for his cheating. The people he is surrounding himself with in his cabinet are evil and full of prejudice. But the accusation of Trump being another Hitler with a Hitler’s agenda is what gave me the courage to fight back saying we have a democracy and if he begins a dictatorship like Hitler’s he will surely be impeached.

But for those of you that get into any political arguments, you will come to realize there is no winning this argument because it is based on emotional issues formed in childhood, not the actual political opinion.

As I reflected on our conversation I realized that each time I was with my friend over the past years she was complaining of issues with her past husbands and family that she was very angry about. She has asked me many times, how is it that she keeps choosing the same type of man with the same issues. My response is that it always points back to her dad. That this is about being attracted to what we are most familiar with for good or bad.

Coming from a place of anger and never owning up to it people continue to bring on issues that surface their anger. They attract angry people and then they blame others for their own problems. With my friend people in her life are selfish and she feels she has been overly unselfish and so she is justified in her belief that she is good and they are bad. Her righteousness concerning selfishness is based on that she always gives so much. Her righteousness repels and she cannot or refuses to see that her attitude about these men being so selfish is what makes them more selfish. Who wants to give to someone always pointing out their wrong doings and this is never done through words but is done by actions. Then she becomes more and more justified, and is the victim. Those who have deep relationship issues should take a step back to see what they are doing to contribute to these problems. It is never one sided. There are always two sides to a situation.

Concerning world affairs Americans all want the same thing and that is for the U.S. to be a place of prosperity and to fix all the problems and issues rampant in the world currently. Because there are so many problems brewing Donald Trump represents change and most everyone wants change. This is why so many people voted for him and they did so secretly. Despite all the negative issues that surround Donald Trump people know and don’t care because he represents something entirely different and people believe he has the courage to make a difference.

Remember that any issue outside of ourselves gives us an opportunity to better see ourselves, and understanding how we contributed to the situation gives us the ability to take responsibility to change our lives. If you are not happy take a look inside and you will find the answer based on your emotional responses to outside stimulus.

Strong feelings of righteousness and judgment always relates to deep core issues and resentments formed in the past. Resentments are long standing anger that begins to fester and cause emotional issues and result in problems. These problems result in failed relationships and problems throughout life that are continually blamed on others never taking responsibility for the reason rooted at the heart of the matter.

If we can choose to see the truth and recognize that deep seated righteousness and resentments are only hurting ourselves then maybe this realization will begin to change our lives and consequently have an effect on our world by becoming more conscious.

The outside world is always a reflection of our inner beliefs and character. I believe Donald Trump is the creation and reflection of our society. We now have a self-centered society that speaks out with rebellion. People are so very disrespectful and now they have created a reflection of themselves, Donald Trump, and the more this image triggers their own image that they refuse to see the more anger it invokes. One of my favorite quotes comes from Dick Cavett,
“It takes a great person to hear what they don’t want to hear.”

My wish and hope for our world is that we can become more conscious and aware. Be aware of your anger and resentments and use this awareness to understand the world and yourself. Through this awakening you will evolve beyond the limitations of this world.

Jerry, I found it. It’s the one called President Trump and the future of America, go to the middle, at minute about 18 she says that she is going to say something that you may not like but that she predicts that trump will be a great president, that it’s all in the stars and he was destined to be president and then goes on an on.

What I don’t get is then why didn’t she definitively say that he was going to be president since now she apparently sees it so clearly, I think she even calls him a king at one point, can’t remember now though. She says that we should look into our hearts and accept him because he is doing something so important in uncovering deception and scandals, honestly just writing this is making my blood pressure rise lol. Please watch and tell me what you think!

Thank you for that, and I agree with much especially at the beginning, and our emotional charges and such, so true.

I also totally do believe as I think jerry and some others here do that this is all part of a divine plan and trump is necessary.

However equating not liking trump to men in ones past is ridiculous, at least for me, I know that it’s the opposite, because I have generally been surrounded by good men, father, brother, husband, that the contrast with Trump repels me and that my Piscean mind feels it unfair and unjust that a man like him, so crass and uncaring at every level could get something he doesn’t deserve, I guess in the stars he does deserve it but I do see him as a reflection of our shadows for sure, going to reread what you sent…

Ok, a few more thoughts on Patry’s email, thanks for posting Paris. I think she really started off well but by the end she went awry. Absolutely it’s all about emotions, the reason trump won is this appeal to emotions. Agreed.

Also I completely agree with her prediction on fundamentalism. Without a doubt this is the major issue we will be dealing with for the next few years or more , radical Islam is a huge problem.

I also agree people voted for Trump because he represented change, he was the change candidate like obama was and this appeals to people’s emotions. People sometimes learn the hard way though and should be careful what they wish for, people perhaps take for granted this great democracy and what it took to get here and blowing up the system has repercussions, many of which hurt the very people that voted for the change.

Many people talk about trump winning because of the economy not working for so many but the truth is that more poor people,voted for Hillary. Not only do I think that there is a collective amnesia about the mess obama inherited and how far we have come, but making America great again was absolutely for many making America white again and an assault on a black presidency. Many of the voters’ problems who voted for trump are a result of technology and globalization, its all well and good to think that trump is a savior who will bring back their jobs, but if much of what trump proposes were to happen, these very same people would find that the cost of much of what they shop for would go up drastically. Anyway I digress …

Then she goes into her whole story with her friend and having all these selfish men in her life has caused emotional triggers to someone like Trumo. While emotional triggers are a real thing there is a reason trump triggers so many people, and in his case it’s because for so many people they honestly can see what a con he is, what a bragging bully who is the height of egotistical shallowness, and ok, while I get that we all have these shadow elements in us and collectively have created the orange monster, I think that the decency and goodness of those people who just don’t get the trump phenomena are just more appalled that this is what it has come to, that this is our leader and we are in abject dismay rather than we are triggered by Trump because of childhood.

I just don’t see her conclusion as logical, the more trump triggers us, the more we have to look at how we created him she is saying. But what about his adoring supporters who in my mind really are the ones (deplorables) who created him, what about the fact that he doesn’t trigger them? They are not to blame for trump according to her argument, it all seems to break down at the end in my mind.

Trump triggers me because I am sensitive, thats why and to quote my favorite artist Jewel, ‘be careful with me cause I’m sensitive. And I’d like to stay that way’
Trump triggers me because he goes against everything that’s decent about humans, it hurts me, and I fell compassion for those he cons ……but I recognize that it is part of the negative cycle we are in at this moment and that he is playing a necessary part in the breakdown of the old. Yeah trump is change but not in the way that people hoped for when they voted this man in.

Hi Diana – perhaps part of the USA transiting Pluto opposite Sun and the USA chart’s Sun/Saturn issues, this Cancer country is dealing with ‘daddy’ or men/authority in general. So maybe we are, in sense, be weened of the need for an authority and a false sense of security that comes from outside of us. Heck, even some elements of Christianity and other more conservative and orthodox religions (which we will experience under the current Saturn transit through Sag) sees God as an authority figure outside of us, who punishes, protects, as well as rewards obedience. So this just seems like the stars are providing the opportunity to get into the depths of the daddy issues.

Some positive reactions to the failures of authorities in the eyes of the public seems to be an increased desire to take back our own authority and involvement in the creation of our reality/world/country. Another positive response has been a new interest in developing the feminine as a counterbalance or solution. Gaia, nature, the earth, responsible stewardship and sustainability, and diversity rather than central authority. Many of the younger men I’ve met seem to have integrated the feminine more fully or a desire for a more holistic and inclusive reality.

M. & kiwi,

Interesting info on the East India company’s founding from Sally. With her coming up so much in this conversation, she must be guiding us from afar. I will have to take a look at its natal chart and share my thoughts.

Between the recent and upcoming Pluto in Cap oppositions to the US natal planets in Cancer (Jupiter, Sun, Mercury), and the upcoming Pluto return in 2022, it seems very much as if we are dealing with similar issues of corporate rule and acquisition/use of resources and finance run amok as early Americans were in the mid-to-late 1700s with the British East India Company.

It does seem in no small way ironic that the founders set the Declaration of Independence in motion–crystallizing the new United States’ identity–while Pluto was still in Capricorn, the sign of corporations and big business, of all of the places it could be.

A few years later and we would have had a country with Pluto in Aquarius, wouldn’t that have been interesting? A country with power truly in the hands of the people and public organizations, rather than private corporations and wealthy elites controlling massive material resources and finance, as Pluto in Cap represents. I’ve even wondered how we might have fared had the US been incorporated several decades earlier, when Pluto was in Virgo. Power to guilds & eventual workers unions, or perhaps more perversely, the military?

But of course no one even knew about Pluto’s existence in the 18th century, much less Neptune’s–Uranus was still on the verge of discovery and emergence within the collective consciousness–and the revolutionary spirit of the time was already out of the bottle. But as I said previously, the founders may have been able to subconsciously compensate for the Pluto in Capricorn energies during Pluto’s transit of Aquarius. The Constitution itself was signed September 17, 1787 with Pluto at 14 Aquarius. Its effective date, March 4, 1789 has Pluto at 18 Aquarius. Incidentally, Pluto will return to 14 Aquarius in 2032, and 2034, so that general period of time in the early 2030s will be very important for the US Constitution, whatever the condition of the US itself at the time.

I meant to add that Pluto will be at 18 Aquarius in 2034. Also, Washington took office as POTUS on April 30, 1789, which some use as the birth of the Office of the Presidency. Pluto is at 19 Aquarius in that chart, and will return to this degree in 2035, so significant changes are likely coming for the US Presidency as well, although I suspect we will see something significant happen even before that, during or in the immediate wake of DT.

Modern US presidencies all begin with the Sun at 0-1 Aquarius, and Pluto will be conjunct the Sun of the presumptive administration to come in January 2025–and transiting the natal Sun of the one already in place beginning in 2023. Something quite dramatic will be in effect during the 2023-2025 period, to say the least. But with Pluto in Aquarius then, and not in Capricorn, whatever takes place it is going to come from the people and the general public, not corporations or elites. Woe to the latter if they think they can stop it or otherwise get in the way.

Paris, completely agree, this is all part of the patriarchy , definite daddy issues, lots of his voters are looking for exactly that, a hero masculine figure to save them. And modern Christianity is totally patriarchal, old man in the sky judging us and either rewarding us or doling out punishment. I too am heartened that many young men are not fitting into the typical masculine stereotype , a product of the times and single mums I think.

I would like to share this article, https://thepowerpath.com/articles-by-jose-stevens/article-four-cast-characters-aka-wrecking-crew/
Not astrological and I don’t know his system but it makes perfect sense, when he goes through the cabinet and then gives the three choices America faces at the end of article it gave me chills. This is the fourth article in a series of five about the elections. Good stuff! It seems the theme song of trumps new cabinet should be Mikey Cyrus’s wrecking ball!!

Ok I should sleep now!

Very interesting video by Hogue on 2017. One point he talks about regarding Trump’s chart is that he is naturally a medium and channels the energies around him which is powerful, but this becomes dangerous because he’s basically unconscious. He’s sleep walking as regards consciousness and has no filter. If you don’t like to hear less than flattering responses to Hillary’s hawkishness (which I find pretty on target as it is presented) then you should skip this one.


Diana….yawn…yep time for bed. Thanks for the article. Will probably read it tomorrow when I’m more awake.

YouTube has disabled David Wilcock’s ‘Divine Cosmos’ site:



I missed that one. You’ll have to forgive me, but Joni’s summation in that video struck me as hysterically funny.

Ok. I’ll break it down for you. I will highlight a few of the thoughts that you took exception to VERBATIM…,,,,

“……Donald Trump is destined to be the President of the United States. And based on these planets I have to say something that many of you may not like, but if you do not like what I have to say – you have got to reconsider and take a close look at yourself because what is it that you really want? Do you want to destroy our nation? Or do you want wholeness, completeness and for it to prosper. It’s in the stars. The charts are aligned for Donald Trump to be the President. And here’s my prediction, he will be one of the greatest presidents we ever had. Does that upset you? If it does, take a look at your heart and soul because then you are saying you do not want what’s best.

“I’m not saying that Donald Trump is perfect by any means I’m just saying that there’s something important for him to do and that it’s going to change everything…..

Donald Trump represents change and this is what you’re going to get. And I say, based on the astrology, he’s going to do great things for the world”

– End of Quote –

I think Joni expressed it quite succinctly BUT not in the way most of us are accustomed to thinking. She was basing her observations exclusively on astrology and NOT on personal predilection or bias.

Teal Swan helps to elucidate it even further. I would urge you to view the entire 26 minute video below. It might help to shed some light on what may appear to be a strange contradiction…..

Trump, Earth Changes, System Collapse, System Reset – Teal Swan


I agree with what Will said earlier, that Teal Swan is way cray cray. I’m not saying mental difference precludes other gifts, but Teal Swan is someone I would not go near even with a ten-foot pole. Certainly wouldn’t watch or trust her you-tubes.

Austin Coppock: The Astrology of 2017: Ante Up

Meant to post the above yesterday. Coppock is a young astrologer with perspective and insight well beyond his years. His writing reminds me a bit of Bill Herbst’s–he makes vivid connections between transits/cycles and the bigger picture unfolding.


Re: Teal Swan

I sense authenticity there. No matter. Really speaking it’s not about her. It’s about what she’s saying. We generally think of social change as taking the form of slow incremental stages. In the past several hundred years or so there have been enormous strides in technological growth. Psychologically however, we have remained somewhat stunted. Some little modest improvements here and there, but nothing substantial. We are unable to get past our prejudices, our lusts, the thirst for accumulation of power, greed, anger etc. etc. Modifications of social behavior can only go so far. We may have reached a stopping point in human development. The Clinton/ Obama magic served a useful purpose to get to where we are now. More of the same however could prove to be counter-productive. Why the mass dissatisfaction with the status quo? Because, more of the same can get awfully stale after awhile. Time to move on to the next chapter. It’s amazing how crisis and challenge can change all that stubborn inertia for us. It’s not all doom and gloom. Change can be exciting and meaningful. Out with the old to make way for the new is a very promising, hopeful prospect. Yes? No? Think about it.

Jerry, Here’s more of that coming change that won’t be so exciting…
James “Mad Dog” Mattis says:
“Actually it’s a lot of fun to fight them, it’s a hell of a hoot…It’s fun to shoot some People”:


Yes. I think what is being said here and a point that we can all agree on, is that we are facing huge obstacles ahead of us. All the more reason to go within and find direction and substance there. All meaningful change must come from within. It is not dependent on governmental agencies.

By: Jerry on January 1st, 2017 at 8:24 pm

“I’ve watched and read quite a few of Joni Patry’s videos and articles. I rather enjoy her commentary and astrological presentations. My sense of her is that she is politically neutral. At least that has been my impression.”

Jerry, your sense of her after having “watched and read quite a few of Joni Patry’s videos and articles.” is that she is politically neutral.


By: Diana on January 2nd, 2017 at 12:54 am

“I just don’t see her conclusion as logical, the more trump triggers us, the more we have to look at how we created him she is saying. But what about his adoring supporters who in my mind really are the ones (deplorables) who created him, what about the fact that he doesn’t trigger them? They are not to blame for trump according to her argument, it all seems to break down at the end in my mind.”

I agree with you Diana. She can be held to the same standards she emotes regarding those who are not pro-trump. It is not a one way street. It is not her way or the highway. Has she ever considered that she might be wrong and everybody who sees things opposite to her views might be right?

From her email – “Strong feelings of righteousness and judgment always relates to deep core issues and resentments formed in the past.”

Yours too Joni.

Words of wisdom from Patry:


“What does this all mean? From the charts I surmise that Clinton will probably win the elections but Donald Trump will uncover many secrets that will disqualify her for U.S. President.” Right on! Played out exactly as she called it. She is so good. LOL.

“It is between the elections and Inauguration Day that the truth will be uncovered.” Still waiting. Hillary must really be scared.

“Many of our beliefs will change for what we had previously believed will be proven wrong. During this transition there will be much confusion for these realizations are unbelievable.” Is that true for you too?

Still more:


Insulating herself – It isn’t me. It’s the astrology.

WRONG! What you put out is your interpretation of those aspects. My interpretation is not the same. You must take responsibility for your work.

“Setting aside any feelings on Trump all these astrological indications predict that Donald Trump will be a great President of the US. This is my prediction not letting other astrologers or the media affect my prediction.”

“… but he is the elected President and will create powerful changes due to his Jupiter. Let me remind you, this is an objective astrological analysis and not a biased opinion based on his natal Jupiter with Jupiter’s dasha and Jupiter’s transit.”

Well … is it based on his Jupiter or isn’t it?

Another hit – “I have been predicting an event that will change everything around New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day …”

“This possible attack will set back the United States causing an economic crisis.” Thanks for the heads up!

“The solar eclipse on August 2nd is 4 degrees of Leo conjunct Trump’s natal Mars.” There is no such eclipse (even in a Sidereal zodiac). Another hit.

For Will (and everyone else too)

January Predictions 2017 Joni Patry


Will, how can you resist those eyes?

After seeing her latest video, she seems rather gleeful about Trump’s iminent term in office.

In the past she referred to Trump as “a sacrificial lamb”. On inauguration day she said there would be a “win” and then a “loss” for him. She also said she wasn’t sure if we would even have a President on January 20th due to troubling developments. Not to mention her predicted New Year’s calamity.

She looks good in powder and paint 🙂

I find Joni Patry very annoying, but maybe that’s in part because I don’t understand Vedic astrology. Also, her delivery bugs me.


Your deconstruction of Joni ‘blonde ambition’ Patry is merciless………….well-deserved and hilarious.

Good work!

PS Would love to see those crazy eyes blood shot from a few his of righteous kush. Think Wile E Coyote.

It is now clear that the Mars opposition to the solar eclipse point brought us the attack on the Turkish nightclub and the double terror attack in Baghdad.

As we move into early January, Saturn will square Obama’s Mars and the US Neptune. Watch the disastrous beginnings of the new Congress as this plays out. The new Congress chart, drawn for noon tomorrow, has Uranus on the Ascendant opposite Jupiter. Expect no holds barred on their attempts at destruction of our progressive agenda, hence the Saturn transit to Obama and to US Neptune.

This pretty much sums it up. Read it and weep:


Jessica Murray has a new article posted
“2017 begins with a lesson about the fictional nature of reality. The Mars-Neptune conjunction on New Year’s Day asks us to accept that the world is slippery and unknowable. The best approach is a bemused spiritual detachment: to stand outside of events, in observation mode.”

(may require subscription to see)

I refuse to allow Trump, et al to chew away at my soul and my hope.

We got through GWB for 8 years – we’ll get through this – one moment-at-a-time.

Who is to say there won’t be considerable upheaval within the Republican party? Remember that it was on the verge of extinction during the campaign.

I actually am beginning to see Trump as a proverbial “person of destiny.” Perhaps this is the “Great Satan” we need to battle with and prevail upon in order to rush in a much better age for us. He is here to manifest the Saturn/Pluto conjunction in Capricorn.

There is often the greatest of darkness before the light.

Stay strong. Remain centered. Remember who you are.

This too shall pass.

Have a Happy New Year in spite of the Ass-Clown-in-Chief.

We all know very well that he has feet of clay.

My speculative chart for Mrs Patry. That chart with the August 21st solar eclipse which has virtually the same angles as her natal chart with the eclipse conjunct her MC. Finally, that chart with the January 13, 2020 transits that hit trump and his oldest son so hard.


For Will:


“Remember that all through history, there have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they seem invincible. But in the end, they always fall.

-Mahatma Gandhi


Re: http://imgur.com/klKzHZm

Gads man, what dasha is she moving through?

Now there’s an argument for reincarnation!

Here’s a look at what Hill Republicans will try to accomplish the first month of the 115th Congress

Obamacare repeal

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has vowed that the chamber’s first order of business will be starting the process of scrapping President Barack Obama’s health care law.

The Kentucky Republican is making good on that promise this week by bringing to the floor a budget that would unlock a fast-track process enabling Republicans to jam repeal through Congress along party lines.

After the Senate acts, the House will follow suit, as soon as the second week back from the holiday recess. And Republicans hope to clear the budget before Trump’s inauguration.

It’s a matter of when — not if — a repeal bill passes.


The Senate is heading toward a partisan showdown over Trump’s Cabinet. Incoming Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) warned McConnell against scheduling simultaneous confirmation hearings. And Democrats are already turning Rex Tillerson, tapped for secretary of state, into a test case for a broader push to vet the tax returns of Trump’s multi-billionaire cast of advisers.

Thanks to a rules change pushed through by Democrats in 2013, Trump’s non-Supreme Court nominees will need only a simple majority to be confirmed. Given Republicans’ 52-vote majority, that means they can lose as many as two votes even if Democrats succeed in keeping their moderates in the fold on opposing nominees seen as particularly egregious.

The GOP is already prepared to force Democrats’ hand if they try to delay confirmations.

“While Democrats may want to create a new, unprecedented standard for Senate consideration of nominees, they will not be successful,” one Senate Republican aide said. “If they attempt these extraordinary, dilatory tactics, the Senate will confront it with votes potentially at all hours. It’s really up to them.”

Regulatory rollbacks

House Republicans’ schedule for January has a theme: “restoring” and “reclaiming” congressional authority under Article 1 of the Constitution, which they say Obama has whittled away over the past eight years. Now it’s the Hill GOP’s turn to seek revenge on the outgoing president for, as they see it, ignoring Congress while making policy through regulations.

This week, House Republicans plan to pass the “REINS Act,” a measure they’ve been trying to enact for the better part of a decade. It would require congressional approval of any executive-branch regulation that costs more than $100 million. They also intend to approve a so-called “midnight rules” bill that would allow Republicans to repeal a host of Obama-era regulations in clusters using the Congressional Review Act.

That law lets Congress axe any regulations that have been approved in the prior 60 legislative days with a simple majority in both chambers. Republicans are already making lists of which Obama regulations they want to repeal, from a Labor Department overtime rule to Interior Department restrictions on the coal industry.

But each challenge takes a separate debate and vote, forcing the GOP to make tough choices about which Obama rules to target. The “midnight rules” bill would ease that hurdle.

The House is expected to once again pass a law overturning the Supreme Court precedent known as “Chevron deference,” which requires courts to accept an agency’s interpretation of ambiguous laws.

New House rules

For the first time in the nation’s history, House GOP leaders want to delegate the chamber’s punishment authority to a nonpartisan officer of the House — a contentious move that’s currently scheduled for a Tuesday vote. The new rule — a GOP response to the Democrats’ 25-hour gun control sit-in last June — would allow the sergeant-at-arms to fine lawmakers $2,500 for livestreaming or taking pictures of the House floor.

Will, I prefer to think of trump as judas – the necessary betrayer whose name will be reviled;
sold out for monetary gain then destroyed himself.

Buckeye, thanks so much for the link to Austin Coppock – have not yet finished reading, but so far, like immensely.

“Growth isn’t always linear: two steps forward, one step back”

The solar eclipse of September 1, 2016, had it’s nadir at 311°17′ in Istanbul. At the time of the attack the midpoint of transiting Sun/Mars was on it (311°30′). Transit Sun (281°37′) was trine the eclipse point (160°56′).

The real time difference between UTC and local time in Istanbul is 2 hours not 3 as shown by the artificial Turkey Time.

To prove it do the current tropical Aries ingress chart for Greenwich then do it for Istanbul. Be sure both charts have the Sun at 000°00′ Aries. Now look at the MCs’ of the charts. 7°28′ Sag for Greenwich, 4°16′ Cap for Istanbul. The difference is in line with the 2 hour difference shown by the difference in longitude for them (remember 15 degree difference for each hour) – 000°00′ for Greenwich, 28°58′ East for Istanbul. LST for each chart 18:18:35 for Istanbul; 16:22:42 for Greenwich – a difference of 1:55:53. That converts to 28°58’15” in degrees – the longitudinal difference between the 2 places. If you do the Istanbul chart for 3 hours different from Greenwich the Sun will not be at 000°00′ of Aries.

Regarding Turkey Time the following quote seems apropos in a very general sense, that is, as it is understood by the masses.



That’s what I said about Trump. We survived 8 years of George Bush. He started two disastrous wars that are still going on.

We can survive Trump.

I think he’ll piss off Republicans in Congress as much as anyone else, that he has no understanding of needing Congress to do the things he wants, and we’ll mostly have grid-lock.

Bob, your post on Patry was indeed hilarious, and her dramatic predictions dont materialize, thank God I suppose. Its all ”nothing is as it seems blah blah blah”, I definitely think she likes Trump

But Jerry and Will I do agree that we have to look at this as all part of a bigger plan. I hope it is not wishful thinking and us trying to comfort ours selves sigh. Deep down I dont think so.

However it is hard to believe that not so many months ago, it really seemed that the Republican party had almost fallen completely apart, now they have all the power and all because of Trump, who is tweeting about his enemies and how he kicked their butt.

Thanks Nancy, for the devastating WAPO piece…I did weep! For 8 years the Right has designed and pushed a visceral hatred against PBO, they’ve whipped half the country into a frenzy! We need to form our own Tea Party or the Save America Party!
If the Right could do all this with Lies…
The Billionaires’ Tea Party: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKH2gRDkC5s
Just Imagine what we can do with Truth!

Excellent Krugman summary of reality:


…cults of personality are actually the norm in the “stans,” the Central Asian countries that emerged after the fall of the Soviet Union, all of which are ruled by strongmen who surround themselves with tiny cliques of wealthy crony capitalists.

Teresa Hill

The first 100 days ends April 30th right…. you’ll probably revise “we’ll survive Trump”

parts of CA may survive hate/hurt GOP/Trump (not all) the rest of the country….. especially Florida is going to be tragically interesting to track since their elderly population is going to get ‘collectively euthanized’ by one Trump policy or another….

second to that Arizona’s elderly population will have their ‘Trump Holocaust ‘

115th Congress convenes

Are you paying attention? If you’re not listening/reading carefully you will miss things, important things. Pay attention.


Venus 29 Aquarius > Ingress 00
Pisces 2:46AM ET

Saturn 21 Sagittarius
Jupiter 21 Libra
Uranus 20 Aries

Patty ‘Thanks Nancy, for the devastating WAPO piece…I did weep! For 8 years the Right has designed and pushed a visceral hatred against PBO, they’ve whipped half the country into a frenzy! We need to form our own Tea Party or the Save America Party!
If the Right could do all this with Lies’

Wow Patty, this resonated with me so much, i have seen the hatred firsthand for PBO and I am one hundred percent sure that this has been a propaganda hatred that as you say has been whipped into the country. I find it all so demoralizing because i wonder what will happen now with a super conservative agenda.

Did anyone see trumps new years speech?

No, I opted to watch Mariah flub her lip sinc song when they dropped the ball in NYC;s rockin’ eve, then I watched Mariah’s World. It was the better entertainment.
At least Mariah has a 10M ring on her finger and she’s a working girl.

“Growth isn’t always linear: two steps forward, one step back”

Often true, but the R’s want to take us back (with a few exceptions) more than 100 years. They not only would like to reverse and erase FDR’s New Deal, but Theodore Roosevelt’s Square Deal as well.

I can’t compare GWB years with this one, they’re both so bad. This new group is going to take back 50 years of progress if they succeed.

Bush took us 10 yrs. didn’t threaten SS, Medicare and the best law since all the progress from Democratic Presidents since FDR.

That is the real loss for the nation, the backwardness of it all. I can just see turtle boy smiling and cow lips Ryan- Eddy Munster grinning. Maybe DT will veto a thing or two and spare Medicare or SS or even ObamaCAre. He don’t care if his deplorables get healthcare or if grannie eats cat food but he’s so unpredictable he might do something as crazy.

very sadly, yes, eliseo.
I posted it more for the wisdom in the article than the title itself.

““If you are going through a time of discouragement, there is a time of great personal growth ahead.” ~Oswald Chambers
If I were to look back at my life thus far, as I often do, I’d notice a pattern of events and feelings resembling the activity on an EKG monitor. For every peak, there’s been a valley. For every leap forward, there’s been a stumble backward—sometimes just an inch, and other times, what seemed like miles.
Recognizing and embracing this has brought me a tremendous amount of peace, because I once believed that progress required a steady, consistent ascent toward perfection” …….. more

“I actually am beginning to see Trump as a proverbial “person of destiny.” Perhaps this is the “Great Satan” we need to battle with and prevail upon in order to rush in a much better age for us. He is here to manifest the Saturn/Pluto conjunction in Capricorn.”

More than one astrologer (as mentioned on this blog and elsewhere) have stated the 2017 inauguration chart was very similar to that of 1972. I would rather see Trump go down or be disgraced like Nixon rather than HRC. And we know the R’s would have impeached and possibly convicted Hillary.

But we need be careful here. Jimmy Carter stated he believed Ted Cruz would have been worse than Trump. I agree with him, and would add Mr. Pence as worse than Trump as well.

Trump will likely be unbelievably horrible. Many will suffer and/or die needlessly under his rule. But if we are lucky and the R’s do not impose totalitarian control we’ll have an election in 2020 in which we can hopefully throw these rascals out for good.

Looking at the pro-Trump astrologer links posted, and I can’t honestly speak on why any astrologer would take delight in Trump’s election to POTUS. Maybe they see something in the transits, or in his natal/progressed/SR/harmonic charts that I haven’t, and how it aligns with the US’s charts?

In any case, plenty of people of all sorts have been caught up likes moths to a flame within DT’s cult of personality, so I am reminded that even astrologers aren’t necessarily immune by definition to con men and their ploys. There’s nothing whatsoever that requires anyone to be “spiritually grounded” to interpret and make astrological forecasts, etc. Poseurs and quacks exist in all fields.

I fully see Trump for what he is, and what he represents, and I can see the potential for a far better world that possibly lies on the other side of his reign. I take no joy in the pain and suffering that people will have to endure in order to get there, however; even if this is the “chosen” path, I remain certain that there was a better way to get where we’re going.

I see right through the man’s ginormous ego shielding all of his unconscious insecurities. This would-be emperor has no clothes.

A somewhat gloomy global outlook from Linda Schurman

Buckeye ” I remain certain that there was a better way to get where we’re going”
Ain’t that the truth!!

Sadly I fear, too many have ingrained addictive attachment tendencies so nothing less than cold turkey intervention has been prescribed by the cosmos.

With No Warning, House Republicans Vote to Gut Independent Ethics Office


Donald Trump makes top Republican fear environmental future

A leading US Republican says she fears for the future of her seven grandchildren with Donald Trump in the White House.
Christine Todd Whitman, head of the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) under George W Bush, accused Mr Trump of ignoring compelling science.
And she warned that his threat to scrap climate protection policies puts the world’s future at risk.
Trump supporters say rules on climate and energy are stifling business.
But Ms Todd Whitman says the US must find ways of promoting business without unduly harming the planet.


photo of the obamas and announcement for his farewell address – some beautiful, heartwarming comments

House GOP Faceplant On Ethics Coup Shows Public Shame Still Matters!
“Public outrage blocked a secret, midnight effort to nuke the congressional ethics watchdog”. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/house-gop-faceplant-on-ethics-coup-shows-public-shame-still-matters_us_586bfc31e4b0eb58648acae4


To do that, Trump has to work with the Republican congress, many of the leaders people he said horrible things about during the election.

Trump doesn’t play well with others. He thinks we elected him dictator and has no idea the power held by Congress. I see a huge power struggle, them trying to exert their power over him, him sticking it to anyone who tries to get in his way.

Did you see that he kicked the Koch brothers off his golf course over the weekend? It’s already beginning. Traditional Republican influences being insulted by Trump.

I think it’s going to be an incredibly rocky relationship where little, if anything, gets done.

And Democrats have an opportunity to help drive a wedge between the two.

Plus, we’ll have voters rebelling like crazy if they try to do anything with social security and medicare.


Governor Cuomo and Senator Bernie Sanders propose free tuition at New York State Colleges

Omarosa: ‘Every Critic Will Have To Bow Down To President Trump’


alex, she sounds like quite the operator!
born Feb 15 1974, Youngstown ohio, no time.
Grand trine in air – Aquarius sun Jupiter conjunct, trine libra Uranus, trine gem saturn

KGO’s John Rothmann is on FIRE!
Absolutely Brilliant Program Listen Live:


Another view to what you were just expressing but perhaps you haven’t as yet considered…..

Trying to reach reconciliation with what just happened November 8th is a disturbing process. I couldn’t agree with you more. Reality is just beginning to set in and for whatever reasons we find ourselves mystified even horrified with the potential turbulent ride that lies ahead of us come January 20th.

I’m just thinking out loud here, so even if you disagree, just indulge me……

Has it occurred to you the reason why we feel so uncomfortable with Donald Trump, however eccentric and horrible he may appear to our moral senses, is that he represents a mirror to our shadow side, the ugly parts we would prefer to not look at and rather sweep under the rug? Out of sight – out of mind. We like to think of ourselves as above all these petty things, but look deeper and there are all sorts of gnawing contradictions grinding within us that we can’t quite can’t get a handle on. Impatience, anger, resentment, elitism etc, etc. It’s all there if you are honest and look hard enough.

Here’s a fascinating, utterly amazing prescient article written back in September 2015….. long before Donald Trump was being taken seriously (everyone thought his entering the race was nothing more than an outrageous publicity stunt to benefit his vast Trump brand empire) that speaks to all the issues we are presently dealing with

Donald Trump Is The President America Deserves


Donald J. Trump will be the next President of the United States. That is going to happen come November 2016. Once elected, he will install 30-foot-tall gold-plated letters spelling his name on the front of the White House. He will be asked about foreign leaders in globally broadcasted press conferences and he will look directly into the camera with those dead, sunken eyes of his and call them morons and losers. He will blow huge chunks of the country’s budget investing in ideas a 10-year-old boy would concoct, like a giant wall around Mexico to keep the “rapists” out. He will do all of these things as the leader of America and we will deserve every minute of it.

You are laughing. You think Trump is a freak show, a lunatic who stands no chance of actually being elected to a position of power. Buddy, look around you. America is a country that thrives on lunacy, a 3,000-mile bi-coastal freak factory that rewards those who can boil their horrid, myopic opinions down to a four-word slogan, and Donald Trump is their king, the future Bumper-Sticker-in-Chief.

Donald Trump is America’s id personified?—?a walking, talking middle finger. He is the guy from Jersey in a tank top whose favorite phrase is “Ay, jerkoff, c’mere and say it to my face, eh?” He is the retired uncle in line at Chik-Fil-A wearing a trucker hat that says “One Big Ass Mistake America.” He is the Wall Street executive who dictates his own annual multi-million bonus while opposing a $15 minimum wage. Donald Trump is America.

When Bloomberg Politics recently stuffed Trump supporters into a room and asked them what they like about The Donald, the jowly masses responded:

“He doesn’t care what people think, he tells the truth.”

“He’s in touch with what everybody’s thinking, what everybody wants.”

And the special sauce on the Big Mac…

“He’s one of us. He may be a millionaire, but besides the money issue, he’s still in tune with what everybody wants.”

While the rest of the world views Trump as comic relief in our already laughable political system, the sunburned, overweight mouthbreathers of ‘Murica (whose votes all count equally) have spoken: They like Trump. They think he’s a good guy, a straight-shooter. A regular Joe Dickhead, but you know… also a billionaire. He’s convinced them of the greatest character swindle in American politics: He’s just like you.

It’s the same rhetoric that got George W. Bush elected twice. After all, Bush was just like you, especially if you went to the best schools in Connecticut but for some reason spoke with a Texas accent, and if you owned a baseball team, and if your father was head of the CIA, ambassador to China, Vice President of the United States for eight years, and President for four years. Just like you!



Jerry, my first thought when Trump first began to get traction was “he’s the personification of the ‘ugly American’ ” – the essence of the in-your-face, crass and arrogant traits that the rest of the world dislikes about americans en-masse.

I like what I hear Bernie Sanders saying. He was on Rachel Maddow’s show tonight. There is a focus and purposeful trajectory in his view of the future of the Democratic party.

With transiting Neptune and then trans. Mars conjunct his IC (roots as in grass-roots) in the weeks following the election, along with Bernie’s natal sextile between his Vesta (tireless dedication and focus) in Libra and Chiron (healing of wounds) in Leo, it has activated his natal Yod (natal Vesta, Chiron, IC).

This Neptune-Mars transit recharging Bernie’s natal Yod, when considering the September 2015 solar eclipse at 9+ Virgo, activates a Boomerang kind of pattern. The final release point of the combined energy is Bernie’s MC (reputation, achievement, recognition).

This complex pattern will IMO be instrumental in solving the dilemma posed by the cardinal grand cross formed by the January 12 Full Moon in Cancer opposite the Sun in Capricorn, squared by Jupiter in Libra who opposes Eris (+ Uranus and Ceres) in Aries.

This grand cross will also affect the U.S. Neptune in Virgo, as well as the U.S. Mars in Gemini and Trump’s Sun-Moon opposition. This is because the Full Moon’s transiting Saturn and Juno in Sagittarius will conjunct Trump’s Moon and oppose Trump’s Sun (+ U.S. Mars) in Gemini and square the U.S. Neptune.

The Full Moon’s transiting Saturn and Juno in Sagittarius will also trine Bernie’s Uranus (+ Moon) in Aries as well as transiting Eris-Uranus-Ceres in Aries. In some magical mix of chess-like plays, Bernie will achieve some important goals in the next couple of weeks which would explain the smile on his face on Inauguration Day (trans. Jupiter will be conjunct his natal Venus!)

Glad to see the problem accessing Starlight News earlier today has been resolved. Just another Mercury rx snafu I’m assuming.

More than 1100 law school professors nationwide oppose Sessions’s nomination as attorney general ~ per Washington Post

A group of more than 1,100 law school professors from across the country is sending a letter to Congress on Tuesday urging the Senate to reject the nomination of Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.)

WAPO was forced to retract, adding this editor’s note:

“An earlier version of this story incorrectly said that Russian hackers had penetrated the U.S. electric grid. Authorities say there is no indication of that so far. The computer at Burlington Electric that was hacked was not attached to the grid,” the editor’s note read.


Good on you Dan Rather!

On Facebook, Rather blasted Baker by opening with “A lie, is a lie, is a lie.”
“Journalism, as I was taught it, is a process of getting as close to some valid version of the truth as is humanly possible. And one of my definitions of news is information that the powerful don’t want you to know,” Rather wrote.

“It is not the proper role of journalists to meet lies—especially from someone of Mr. Trump’s stature and power—by hiding behind semantics and euphemisms. Our role is to call it as we see it, based on solid reporting.
When something is, in fact, a demonstrable lie, it is our responsibility to say so,” he continued. “As I have said before and will say as long as people are willing to listen, this is a gut check moment for the press. We are being confronted by versions of what are claimed to be ‘the truth’ that resemble something spewed out by a fertilizer-spreader in a wind tunnel. And there is every indication that this will only continue in the Tweets and statements of the man who will now hold forth from behind the Great Seal of the President of the United States.”

Rather concluded by warning news consumers, “You as the paying, subscribing public, can use your leverage and pocketbooks to keep those who should be honest brokers of information, well, honest. ”

I don’t watch television. I don’t even have one set up. But I occasionally access live streaming news.
Rachel Maddow’s show was really excellent, brilliant tonight.
If your are emotionally down from the election, I recommend it. It is invigorating to see Dem leaders ready to really and truly fight the battle rather than lay down in milquetoast misery.

The show features extensive and interesting interviews with Senators Schumer and Bernie Sanders. You wanna be inspired?
Watch the show.



‘What is said and what is not said about the war in Syria’:


Donald Trump – A Psychological Profile

Director Francis Ford Coppola’s 1970’s movie trilogy the GodFather with an all star cast including Marlon Brando and Al Pacino, had been hailed as one of the top great Hollywood movies of all time. It is an epic production dwelling on the Italian mafia in the US immediately following the end of World War Two. Many Americans seem to identify with the characters and storyline. Can one deduce an eerie similarity between that of the character named Vito (Marlon Brando), the head of the Corleone Mafia family, known to friends and associates as “Godfather.”? The following is a depiction of Trump I came across on Facebook this morning that brought to mind the Marlon Brando character….

“Here’s a guy born into riches, who spent his whole life wheeling and dealing, bullying anyone and gambling anything to amass as much money and power as possible, and never once caring who he steps on because it’s all just “business”. And a serious percentage of the American population hungered to elect him President, because they think those are the qualities that make America great”

– End of Quote –

Global 2017 and Astrology Forecast
By Leo Knighton Tallarico

“…..We begin the New Year knowing that Donald Trump will be inaugurated president before the month of January ends – on January 20.

His new administration pretty much defines a Military/Industrial complex with wealthy corporate cabinet members and advisers as well as many military Generals, an oil tycoon, etc.

……..One of big reasons I predicted Trump to win was because I saw that his natal chart connected to that aforementioned USA Pluto in Capricorn in the 2nd house. And I also saw his natal chart was very connected to the USA natal Mars. Together Mars and Pluto represent its military, police, and economic institutions, or in other words the Military/Industrial Complex.

His Sun is in Gemini at around 21-22 degrees, which is where the USA natal Mars is placed (military and police). This means he is very connected to the militaristic segment of the USA. His Moon in Sagittarius is also connected to this USA Mars by opposition.

His Venus and Pluto in Cancer are directly opposite to the USA Pluto in Capricorn which represents its power and wealth. That connects him strongly to the USA financial institutions and its Superpower desires, though it also shows some differences with those institutions.

Starting in late January and continuing through February and March 2017 Trump should face his first real challenges to his administration, especially that which connects to the USA Mars’ militarism.

Military conflicts may be ignited, but at the very least the USA will then face challenges to its military power through threats or strong statements from others.

February brings two strong eclipses along with a Mars conjunction to Uranus in Aries, which triggers the USA Mars.

This triggering of USA Mars by Uranus and Jupiter and Saturn will continue most of the year.




You are so right!! That show was so encouraging last night! I haven’t felt that positive about politics since the election. Rachel said at the end of the show that she wants to have a standing date with Bernie on her show.. great news! Also, Bernie Sanders was with Gov Cuomo yesterday when he announced his plan for tuition free education in NY. I think it is telling that he was with him. I think that the party is making it clear they intend to embrace the progressive wing of the party. I am waiting to see what they do in February with the chairmanship of the DNC.. if they pick Keith Ellison, I will be very encouraged. I know they gave Bernie a leadership position, I was really hoping it wasn’t just a token gesture, so far I am encouraged that it isn’t.

Schumer tells Maddow that Dems will fight tooth and nail to block a SC pick that supports only the rightwing agenda, and that Republicans then won’t get 60 Senate votes they need and may then try to change the rules (which isn’t easy?).



I am responding to your “thinking out loud” the medium’s piece you posted.

When it comes to our collective, American shadow-side, its probably fair to say that these dark human proclivities are probably universal – even in India and Tibet. Its probably not so fair to claim that we “deserve Donald Trump.” To be even more fair, almost 3M American’s more voted for HRC than DT. What is true is that all Americans will suffer – and so it in that sense, the karma will be shared – but not deserved by 3M more than half of the citizenry.

Also, when it comes to elections in an arguably deeply divided nation of voters, it kind of comes down to the proverbial flip-of-a-coin as to which candidate will win. Ergo, it is somewhat questionable that this medium put forth such “a fascinating, utterly amazing prescient article.”

No more prescient than a jaded-view and a guess.

Hi Will,

I am merely suggesting….. Just deal with the facts. We are all inextricably connected. We are not separate. This complex web of humanity and our connections to it are simply different facets of ourselves. Whether you like it or not, we are in this together. To think otherwise implies denial. We just voted a mad-man into the white house. The popular vote was and is inconsequential at this point in time. He is taking office in two weeks. We will need to find resolution not through government, because the government has been taken hostage – but to find peace and resolution within ourselves. There’s no other way. It’s up to you my friend.

The facts speak for themselves. Here’s what we are facing. The following video is only 4 minutes long….

Is Donald Trump Mentally Stable? A Psychologist’s Perspective



I get the mystical perspective. Yes, we are all inextricably connected. But for anyone to put forth that we all deserve a president like Trump is over-simplistic. Moreover, it feels like someone rubbing salt in a very fresh wound. It certainly isn’t kind or supportive.

A very sick doctor or nurse cannot be helpful to very sick people. But among all of the Americans who “deserved it” there are some with elevated consciousness and relatively healthy psyches who are not of the far-rabid-right mentality. We can “entertain” dark notions, but it comes down to what we choose to do and how we behave.

No, all of us actually do not deserve Trump. Almost 3M of us in the U.S. chose not to support this “Shadow.” That’s the population of the entire city of Chicago.

BTW, I’m assuming those who are so vociferous in denying Russian hacking, despite the unambiguous conclusions of 17 U.S. intelligence agencies, support a congressional investigation to get at the truth.

Otherwise, I have to question what they’re afraid of.

Barb K, your words are like music to my ears. And didn’t Bernie look great? So refreshed and a big smile. I still see him smiling from the White House.

Well said Jerry ! :

“I am merely suggesting….. Just deal with the facts. We are all inextricably connected. We are not separate. This complex web of humanity and our connections to it are simply different facets of ourselves. Whether you like it or not, we are in this together. To think otherwise implies denial. We just voted a mad-man into the white house. The popular vote was and is inconsequential at this point in time. He is taking office in two weeks. We will need to find resolution not through government, because the government has been taken hostage – but to find peace and resolution within ourselves. There’s no other way. It’s up to you my friend.”

In spite of the ominous square between Saturn and Mars on Inauguration Day, a square that incorporates the U.S. square between Neptune and Mars in the U.S. chart (see Nancy’s chart above) which makes it a grand cross for our country and will be effective for the 4 years following, the Democrats have some possibly positive hidden facets in this chart.

The Inauguration chart’s transiting sextile between Saturn in Sagittarius and Jupiter in Libra, a positive aspect for governments and societies in general, becomes a Boomerang pattern where Hillary Clinton’s north and south nodes are concerned.

This appears to incentivize Ms. Clinton’s own evolutionary path since the focal point of the Boomerang, where the sum total of all the combined energy of this pattern is released, is her north node at 23+ Taurus.

Ms. Clinton’s North Node trines the U.S. Neptune. Ms. Clinton’s North Node is in the territory where transiting Sedna has been for 4 or more years. By November this year transiting Ceres will conjunct Ms. Clinton’s natal Pluto-Mars conjunction in Leo.

The influences symbolized by Sedna and Ceres are subtle comparatively speaking, and feminine in nature. Several paths of manifestation can be expected from both of these goddesses, the most likely would be Earth related. Things like GMO products and the trashing of waterways (think Gulf of Mexico disaster) bear their trademarks.

Sedna and Ceres also can symbolize the plight of Women in general, the difficulties of child rearing for single moms for one thing and the duplicity of some men who would take advantage of women for nefarious reasons for another.

With Ms. Clinton’s natal Pluto-Mars conjunction being the co-rulers of Scorpio, the sign where her natal South Node resides, along with her Chiron, Venus, Mercury and Sun, and both the South Node and Scorpio suggesting the release of stuff no longer of value in the move forward (evolution), I expect to see her applying her remarkable strengths toward a Neptunian (natal NN trine U.S. Neptune) project or two late this year when Ceres reaches 14+ degrees of Leo.

As transiting Chiron continues to apply pressure to Ms. Clinton’s natal Moon (which opposes the U.S. Neptune but trines or sextiles her own natal nodes) I feel sure she will rise again in typical Scorpio fashion, leading her many fans in making great strides for America in one feminine cause or another, and another, and another . . . . . . .

In July, 2018, transiting Uranus in Taurus will square Ms. Clinton’s natal Sun in Scorpio, AFTER transiting Jupiter has made a conjunction to her natal Sun, Chiron, Venus and Mercury and then stations retrograde on her natal South Node, all in Scorpio.

That Jupiter retrograde ends in July, 2018 (between 2 eclipses) and then he will retrace his steps over Ms. Clinton’s natal Scorpio planets and SN, making his 3rd and final trine with transiting Neptune in the process. That will be completed in October, 2018, in time for her birthday.

On her birthday in 2018, transiting Jupiter will be opposed transiting Sedna. We will see then just how far Ms. Clinton has furthered the feminine cause for the U.S. and the planet.

Im in the middle of reading ‘people of the lie’ by Dr Scott Peck – I would venture to say he would think Trump is in his ‘evil’ category

Excerpt from an article written by Philip Roth for Commentary in 1961:

“Simply this: that the American writer in the middle of the 20th century has his hands full in trying to understand, and then describe, and then make credible much of the American reality. It stupefies, it sickens, it infuriates, and finally it is even a kind of embarrassment to one’s own meager imagination. The actuality is continually outdoing our talents, and the culture tosses up figures almost daily that are the envy of any novelist..

[…] All the machinations over make-up, rebuttal time, all the business over whether Mr. Nixon should look at Mr. Kennedy when he replied, or should look away—all of it was so beside the point, so fantastic, so weird and astonishing, that I found myself beginning to wish I had invented it. That may not, of course, be a literary fact at all, but a simple psychological one—for finally I began to wish that someone had invented it, and that it was not real and with us.

[…] The daily newspapers then fill one with wonder and awe: is it possible? is it happening? And of course with sickness and despair. The fixes, the scandals, the insanities, the treacheries, the idiocies, the lies, the pieties, the noise. . . .


It’s as if Trump were the final and cynical manifestation of American tendencies unleashed decades ago.

Oh, barbk, Absolutely. HRC will not sit by and watch them destroy America!
My-23 deg-Taurus Mercury will be doing everything possible to help Hillary topple this Rightwing disaster. And just imagine all those millions who voted for her also helping to pull the wagon!

on the topic of ‘the ugly American tourist’ – a man’s racist rant on flight resulted in united airlines flight from Sydney to SF to divert to NZ where man was detained.


I do think there are many Americans who deserve Trump. I see people always saying, God Bless America, and I think, Why? If you believe in God and what he says in the Bible? Why would he bless this country?

He would have to look at us as a whole and despair over our selfishness, the way we ignore so much human suffering, our meanness toward other human beings, the way we ignore his teachings.

If Trump is a part of burning out the hatred, okay. I guess we just have to live through it.

Just read Omarosa’s quote.

That’s how Trump and Co. are going to try to deal with Congress. Bow down. Now. Trump is in charge, not you.

Congress will not take this well.They’ll show him just how powerful Congress is and how much Trump needs them.

Trump will not take that well. He’ll whine and bully and do stupid things in response.

That’s my view of the next 4 years — or until Trump pisses off Congress so much that they impeach him.

He’ll try to humiliate them, but in the end, they have the power to humiliate him and kick him out of office.

How do Planets look for Woman’s March?
“It started with a retiree. Now the Women’s March could be the biggest inauguration demonstration”. (It’s happening all across the country)

(If interested: Pat Thurston is on now)


Pence told reporters that he and Trump would pursue a “two-track approach” to chip away at the ACA through a combination of executive powers and legislation.

Natal Mike Pence

Natal Eris 09 Aries (N/South Node 10 Aries)


Natal Pallas 08 Libra (N/Juno 09LI, N/North Node 10LI)

The mundane iconic trademark for NEOCON/GOP is 10 Aquarius (I’ve extensively posted about that on thread)

The mundane trademark for Trump/Tea/Hate-Hurt GOP seems to be 10 Aries…..

I’m using 10 Aries as the point of focus for 115TH Holocaust -Congress and whatever sane population outside the beltway ( thousands of scientists, Dem-Governors, grassroots public interest orgs et al) has going on..

notice the iconic 10th degree… it is symbolic for leadership in astrology-numerology used with mundane geopolitical practice

Today Senate Vote

The 51-48 vote was a procedural motion to start debate on a budget resolution that Republicans hope will result in overhauling the Affordable Care Act, and came after President Barack Obama and Vice President-elect Mike Pence visited Capitol Hill to rally their respective parties.


In December when I reviewed my natal chart it showed the upcoming Affordable HealthCare Act CONFLICT as Sesquiquadrate aspect (135 degree arc ‘tear in the structure’)

Sesquiquadrate: In Cosmobiology the sesquiquadrate is considered to be an important aspect.

Sesquiquadrates tend to indicate a smouldering conflict that one would prefer to ignore. Any relief would then tend to be short-lived.

Sesquiquadrates therefore tend to indicate themes of a long-term and stubborn nature. The German astrologer Thomas Ring talks of a “tear in the structure”.

Robert Reich The 15 Warnings Signs of Impending Tyranny”:

Hopefully follow through is a reality.

Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer Speaks Upon Being Sworn Into the 115th Congress – 00:23:35


January 15TH Sunday

Jan 15TH banner “Our First Stand: Save Healthcare”

Our First Stand


The new Republican Congress has begun their efforts to dismantle America’s health care system.

Stopping this Republican assault on the working class of this country will require the active participation of millions of Americans in every community in our country.


‘Chipping Away’ ACA (Affordable Care Act)


Our First Stand: Save Healthcare


10 Degrees Aries & 10 Degrees Libra

* Sesquiquadrate aspects (‘tear in the structure’) to Leo-Aquarius Axis


Good on ya! Peck is one of my favorite clinicians. People of the Lie is still one of my go-to-books. I co-facilitated a training series on it based upon a special trainer’s manual that Peck also published.

RIP, Dr. Scott Peck.

Peck had a wonderful philosophy that had to do with discipline and building character, two old fashioned virtues. There are many wonderful lines and passages to quote…among them is the classic first paragraph of “The Road Less Travelled,” the first line of which was an epiphany to me because many of us are always trying to avoid pain, seeing that avoidance as part of the path to happiness, but the avoidance comes at a great cost.

“Life is difficult. This is a great truth, one of the greatest truths. It is a great truth because once we truly see this truth, we transcend it. Once we truly know that life is difficult – once we truly understand and accept it – then life is no longer difficult. Because once it is accepted, the fact that life is difficult no longer matters.” ~ Scott Peck

Sharon K

nice quote… I find their truth to be my truth about reality… that life is difficult… but thing I think it still matters…. avoiding difficulties for me usually means scheduling in plenty of OOPS time for confusion and random stuff that delays getting things done..

which usually means lots of emails and conversations which is exactly what’s been going on for me since Tuesday…. email pharmacy… email provider….. email delivery service … conversation with dispatcher, conversation with customer service, conversation with delivery manager all because of their internal dysfunctions…. which caused confusion in simple everyday routine stuff I’ve been doing with them for years and years….

I especially am bothered by the RN who can’t seem to remember my pharmacy and sends refills to the wrong pharmacy again and again…. several half dozen emails between the DR the PA and the RN later the confusion MAY BE LIFTED….

who knows it only medicine that is medically necessary and life saving no biggy ehhhhhhhh!


Sharon’s quote by Scott Peck (above) on acceptance may be key here. The missing piece to the puzzle.

No one is saying you have to embrace and agree with what Donald Trump says and stands for. The suggestion is, to simply let go of the preconceptions and resistance. If you see a huge tidal wave coming your way in the distance, it’s obvious and simple, just try to move to higher ground. To stand your ground and fight and argue with the tidal wave; saying – “go away, how dare you threaten me”, is madness. You’ll be crushed.

Eckhart Tolle on Finding Balance

“……. Non-resistance is vital because as long as you are in resistance to the present moment, you will be trapped in the little egoic will. The egoic will needs to subside – that’s surrender to the present moment, and surrender to what is. When you align yourself with what is internally, it looks at first almost like a position of weakness, and it can be misinterpreted as something that prevents you from taking effective action. But the acceptance of what is, is totally compatible with responding to whatever the present moment requires. Whatever wants to be created, manifested, done, at this moment – to be aligned with that, you need to first accept whatever form this moment takes.”


The Senate began 50 hours of debate on the budget measure, which sets up repeal of much of Obamacare through a separate budget reconciliation bill. Debate on this budget resolution is expected to carry into next week, after which there will be a “vote-a-rama,” when an open-ended number of amendments to the budget resolution will gets votes, creating an opportunity for Democrats to further slow down the process.

The budget resolution is the first in a two-part process to repeal Obamacare. It instructs relevant congressional committees to craft a budget reconciliation bill, which will include language repealing major parts of the law.

Congressional sources say the process of crafting the reconciliation bill could take weeks, and a vote on that bill may not take place until February or later.

In a statement, Republican Senate Budget Committee chairman Mike Enzi said the GOP is set on fixing a “broken” national health care system.


Ohio march planned as part of Women’s March on Washington …


An Ohio women’s march and rally will be held … In addition, state representatives and healthcare advocates are … Organizers added the event after Bernie Sanders and other Democratic leaders called for a “day of action” on Jan. 15 to push back on Republicans’ plans to repeal the Affordable Care Act …


Maybe you are answering or intending to address someone other than me? I have no delusions about Trump becoming the new President. I do not subscribe to “deserving” him – that goes too far.

The Dali Lama would likely have argued that he and the Tibetan people “deserved” or somehow karmically-generated the brutal attacks by the Chinese Communists in the 20th century. Even the present Dali Lama fights for the liberation of Tibet.


don’t forget the well deserved slogan known in the public domain: ” hand-wringing Liberals ”

in other words the leftsiders who are dismayed but do-nothing

no reply necessary

Battlelines Drawn as Republicans Ready To ‘Make America Sick Again’


Stand together:


The @HouseGOP thinks you should’ve just been born richer.

Rep. Keith Ellison

DOB 8.04.1959, Detroit MI

continued – Keith Ellison

2017 Solar Arc Sun 09-10 Libra

‘Chipping Away’ ACA (Affordable Care Act)


Our First Stand: Save Healthcare


10 Degrees Aries & 10 Degrees Libra

* Sesquiquadrate aspects (‘tear in the structure’) to Leo-Aquarius Axis

continued – Rep. Keith Ellison

Natal Sun 11 Leo


Natal Pholus 10 Aquarius

Ok, ‘ — Ivanka Trump, who is weighing a prominent role in her father’s administration, is planning to move with her family to a mansion in the exclusive Kalorama section of Washington, two people familiar with the decision said Wednesday

Am I crazy, or is weird now that trump is not talking about his business and multiple conflicts of interest, including businesses and children, apparently has no intentions of releasing his tax returns, even though he said he would if he won, And he is essentially apparently getting away with it all?

Why should I be surprised I wonder, a married to his third wife man who admitted to trying to move like a bitch and sleep with a married woman, and because he’s a star, basically being able to do whatever he — Ivanka Trump, who is weighing a prominent role in her father’s administration, is planning to move with her family to a mansion in the exclusive Kalorama section of Washington, two people familiar with the decision said Wednesdaywants to a woman, and Christians and women in droves vote this man in, and his supporters act like he is God sent and are so very fond of him? I’m trying to accept it but it’s not easy

Let’s hope he does more as outside counsel than he did as US Atty Gen

Eric Holder Chart

2017 Solar Arc Sun 06 Aries
Natal Eris 06 Aries


California’s legislative leaders have hired former attorney general Eric H. Holder Jr., to advise them on how to do legal battle with President-elect Donald Trump, the highest-profile move to come out of an emerging resistance among cities and states to the expected policies of the incoming administration.

The backlash is still inchoate, with a smattering of Democratic mayors, governors and others vowing to buck the Trump administration on issues including immigration and climate change.

But California, which has long been in the vanguard of liberal politics and where Democrat Hillary Clinton beat Trump by more than 4 million votes, is taking the most aggressive stance. Senate Leader Kevin de León and Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon, both Democrats, said Wednesday that Holder will serve as outside counsel to the legislature and advise them in efforts to “resist any attempts to roll back the progress California has made.”

Holder’s “involvement sends a loud and clear message to all Californians that we have their backs and to Washington that we’re not backing down,” de León said Wednesday in an interview.

“We’re talking about worker’s rights, civil rights, voting rights, environmental protections, climate action, protecting children from being separated from their mothers, massive deportation,” he said, as well as the possible repeal of the Affordable Care Act.

RE: Eleanor Bach

Among the examples which Elly gives in the book is her prediction of the appointment of a woman to the Supreme Court by July 1981.

Elly wrote the material in December 1980 for an astrology magazine which was published in the summer of 1981.

Right on schedule, a justice retired in June and Reagan appointed Sandra Day O’Connor as the first woman on the Court. Elly associates Juno with women (and victims or powerless people including terrorists) and picked the court because the Juno station was in Libra. At another Juno station in Libr

a, women got the vote in the U.S. At still another, women got the vote in Japan and 34 women were elected to the Diet. At still another Juno station in Libra, an amendment to give women the vote in Switzerland was defeated.


Transiting Juno 2017-2018

Dec 31 2017 T/Juno 06 AQ
Jan 01 2018 T/Juno 06 AQ


US Sibly South Node 06 Aquarius

it’s a bit early ArtCharts.com
has a 2017 retrograde calendar ( with asteroids) …. it’s not ready yet but probably will be soon


No mistake. I was responding to your 11:42 am Jan 4th entry…

Essentially, your concern was written as follows….

“I get the mystical perspective. Yes, we are all inextricably connected. But for anyone to put forth that we all deserve a president like Trump is over-simplistic. Moreover, it feels like someone rubbing salt in a very fresh wound. It certainly isn’t kind or supportive.”

In response, I would ask you in return…… would you agree most people are heavily addicted or habituated to their inclinations, habits and narrow thought patterns? The preponderance of stubbornly held beliefs and ideas prevents substantive change on many different levels. To be fair, we have experienced modest improvements in consciousness over the years such as the counter-culture movement of the ’60’s, but nothing terribly dramatic – essentially we remain the same. WE ARE STUCK. Over the past one hundred years alone we have endured two world wars and innumerable regional wars based on economic imbalances and nothing has really changed all that much. Deep down, it doesn’t appear as though we have learned from past mistakes. We are still immersed in pettiness, our deep-seated selfish pursuits.

Whether unconsciously or not, what we as a human race are yearning for is something REAL to wake us out of this deep slumber. And what I am trying to convey is fairly obvious – real crisis may be required for radical change to happen. Trump represents the opportunity for meaningful change. By that I mean – out with the old and in with the new. The playing field needs to be leveled before we can start anew.


The root cause of jealousy that mine the field of relations is the problem of fidelity. In some cases, jealousy is based on solid evidence – like in the case of goddess other times, however, this feeling becomes ‘the green-eyed monster which doth mock the meat it feeds on.’

Abnormal, morbid or psychological jealousy has nothing to do with partner’s behaviour. It can be attributed to extreme immaturity, insecurity or an obsession for control.

This kind of extreme possessiveness is indicated, on the natal chart, by Juno in hard aspect with Scorpio’s rulers, Mars and Pluto, or sometimes by Juno retrograde in Taurus (especially in a man’s natal chart) or in Cancer (especially in a woman’s natal chart).


In the Roman legends, Juno has abandoned her power to her husband Jupiter, at the beginning of their marriage and so, the cooperation essential in any successful romantic relationship has been replaced by competition and even conflict. When there is a high conflict in a marriage, the risk of divorce is highly increased.



“And what I am trying to convey is fairly obvious – real crisis may be required for radical change to happen. Trump represents the opportunity for meaningful change. By that I mean – out with the old and in with the new. The playing field needs to be leveled before we can start anew.”

That’s just a tad snotty way of stating it, but a nice distinction from saying all of us deserve it.

Thank you.

Juno in Sagittarius

Juno transits Sagittarius
from November 7, 2016 to February 2, 2017.

Juno in Capricorn

Juno transits Capricorn
from February 2 to December 16, 2017.

Juno in Aquarius

Juno transits Aquarius
from December 16, 2017 to February 23, 2018.


@ 22 Leo, Lunar Eclipse Feb 10, 2017


@ 22 Cancer, Full Moon 12 January 2017, Dealmaker


@ 08 degrees Pisces ,Solar Eclipse 26 February 2017, The Wish


The hurt/hate/GOP plan

115th Holocaust – Congress


Dems in DC and outside the beltway

point of focus minor asteroid:

#839, VALBORG (not enough effort) ~ per Bootes Hart

analyze political charts for – ‘enough effort’ or ‘not enough effort’


A tad snotty (condescending – perhaps a little too self-assured?). I thought I was being relatively straightforward. Anyway, thanks for bringing that to my attention. Feedback is always helpful.

What is under discussion is fairly simple. The old has to be demolished before anything new and different can germinate in its place. Otherwise it’s still a modification of the old in a new package. Hillary Clinton, as attractive a candidate as she was, was still part of the old world order. More of the same.

Ok. Back to astrology. The question in the back of everyones mind; how soon will the Trump administration implode? What I’m looking at is the February 22nd Mars Pluto square (18 Libra-Capr.). It is quite an amazing powerful chart because the Sun/ South Node conjunction (3 Pisces) is precisely on the Mars-Pluto square midpoint. It will impact the US progressed Mars (18 Libra) as well as activate the ISIS Uranus-Mars opposition (16 Aries – 17 Libra)/ and ISIS’s progressed Mars degree (18 Libra). Is that the signature for a major US terror attack that will unravel everything?

Definitive Chart For ISIS
by The Oxford Astrologer


Here’s the February 22nd Mars Pluto square chart for quick reference. Notice the Moons close waxing conj to Pluto (in Capricorn) in sq to Mars….



“What is under discussion is fairly simple. The old has to be demolished before anything new and different can germinate in its place. Otherwise it’s still a modification of the old in a new package. Hillary Clinton, as attractive a candidate as she was, was still part of the old world order. More of the same.”

Well Jerry, that is quite a dramatic pivot; almost as diametrical as a Trump flip. That DT has loaded his cabinet with sclerotic hard-right ideologues does not persuade me he is an agent of evolved transformation.

We will just have to wait and see what unfolds after January 20.

As Teal Swan suggested in this video as seen here before, maybe Trump will be “the match” that ignites the revolution. I’m ready ! Something has got to give eventually.


Just read several headlines on DU. Sears is closing 153 of it’s Craftsman stores and, you may have heard, Macy’s is closing 168 stores. At the same time, 158,000 (approx) new jobs were created. I remember the last 2 yrs of Bush’s term, there were many layoffs so this doesn’t bode well. We’ll see.

At the same time, today there is an investigative hearing on Capitol Hill on (roughly) the Russian influence in the election and, apparently, there is now conclusive evidence in the Wikileak documents release (that’s what a fast glance at the DU posting seemed to say).

Lastly, here’s another “bombshell” that may have legs (and I believe the story said there is a bipartisan legal challenge being filed)!

Hi Will,

No need to wait until January 20th. The effectiveness of America’s security apparatus is fracturing right before our very eyes in its escalating tensions with the future Commander in Chief………

Donald Trump’s Fight With America’s Spies

Jan 5, 2017

President-elect Donald Trump’s feud with the intelligence community is taking on surreal overtones just over two weeks before his inauguration, raising the potential of unusual tension with the nation’s top spies when he moves into the White House.
Unless he changes course, Trump will take office having invested more credibility in the views of Russian President Vladimir Putin and WikiLeaks fugitive Julian Assange than in leading US intelligence agencies.

His dismissal of assessments by US analysts that Russia meddled in November’s election has already soured his ties with America’s leading espionage agencies. But his move Wednesday to invoke Assange, who has spilled some of the nation’s most closely held secrets, to raise questions about Russia’s influence in American politics could poison his relations with rank-and-file intelligence operatives along with some leading Republicans on Capitol Hill.



If I hear the DC Democrats ever ever ever say the words ‘we evoke the pottery barn rule…. ‘if they break it they own it’ they should be sent to the 115TH Congressional CORNER for the duration and feed bread and water….the entire time;

they sound weak, stupid and the image is compounded for being the do-nothing hand wringing DC-Democrats reduced to whining…..boohoo

I’m intrigued by the Mars-Pluto square on Feb 22 as well Jerry, and the Caliphate chart you linked too.

Right now transiting centaur Nessus is at 3+ Pisces. Tomorrow transiting Venus will be at 3+ Pisces and 2 days later transiting Pallas will be at 3+ Pisces. Today trans. Pallas and Venus are newly conjunct, beginning a new cycle. Together they symbolize values and reasonableness (Venus), planning and strategy (Pallas) and of course, yin.

The ISIS chart (Caliphate) and Trump’s “opportunity for reasonable change” might be seen in the transiting Pallas (strategy) position on February 22. She will be at 17+ Pisces which will trine the ISIS chart’s Saturn at 17+ Scorpio rx which puts Trump’s natal Uranus at 17+ Gemini in a square with trans. Pallas and a quincunx with the ISIS Saturn.

This added to the opposition in the ISIS chart’s Uranus-Mars opposition (16-17 Aries-Libra) being set off by Feb 22’s square between trans. Uranus and Mars (18 Aries-Capricorn) . .

. . . as well as trans. Pallas’ (17+ Pisces) sextile to trans. Mars (18+ Aries)on Feb 22, . .

. . . the sextile-trine of Trump’s Gemini Uranus to the ISIS opposition between Mars and Uranus AND the square of the Feb 22nd trans. Pallas in Pisces could be catastrophic or it could be the music of the spheres. Or both.

With transiting Nessus now at 3+ Pisces and the Sun (consciousness) on Feb 22 at 3+ Pisces (and Nessus at 4+ Pisces by then) and then the presently transpiring conjunction and cycle start of Venus – Pallas interacting with this degree area means that wheels are being set in motion right now.

To review, Nessus tried to rape Heracles’ wife and was killed for it. As he was dying he gave Heracles’ wife his blood-soaked cloak telling her it would prevent her husband’s cheating on her. She believed him and when she was suspicious of her husband and she wrapped him in the cloak. Because of the poisoned blood of Nessus still in the cloak, Heracles died. Lesson: be careful who you believe.

Right now the topic most pertinent would be the cross-fire between the U.S. Intelligence community, Congress and Trump. From this will be born the Venus-Pallas cycle (7:49 AM EST, Jan 5, 2017)

Eliseo, Yes…Rachel Maddow is the best, most valuable program on TV! But it’s on here in CA at 6pm while we’re eating dinner or I’m cleaning up so I seldom get to watch it all. You sent a Link, I’m unable to access it. Do you need to sign on to MSNBC to view the reruns?

patty, Rachel has a FB page where you can access much of her show.

The fake may never hear the words “You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for you. …” as the Miranda Decision’s Sun is conjunct his Sun and it’s Jupiter is conjunct his Mercury but there is still the possibility of impeachment.

Could we tie him up in court with 3 million civil suits against him with filings in every state? How many lawyers would he need? And would he file for bankruptcy again? Is there time to file before the inauguration is scheduled?

intriguing thought Bob!

Mr. Singh says the Puppet will be impeached in his 1st term.


Earlier I said transiting Mars would square Uranus on Feb. 22 but I meant to say Mars would square Pluto. What’s more I ignored Trump’s natal Jupiter at 17+ Libra which, along with transiting Zeus at 18+ Libra will add color to the Pluto-Mars square by creating a T-square. Heads will role surely.

And as for Hillary Clinton’s North Node (the path forward), Trump may turn out to be the best thing that could happens to her since his MC conjuncts her North Node. That conjures up some interesting scenarios.

In his usual unpredictable fashion, Trump could appoint Hillary to some (new perhaps) position that would (if she were to accept) insure her place in history in a most positive way. Because of transiting Sedna in the same region as Hillary’s NN and Trump’s MC it might have to do with the environment or issues regarding women’s rights.

There is an interesting New Moon in May 2018 that conjuncts Hillary’s North Node and Trump’s MC in Taurus. Transiting Sedna will be there too.

Ten days later transiting retrograde Jupiter at 16+ Scorpio will conjunct Hillary’s Venus as they both trine transiting Neptune in Pisces, the 2nd of 3 trines the transiting planets will make. Transiting Uranus will enter Taurus that month and by the 4th of July trans. Uranus will oppose Hillary’s natal Sun in Scorpio. How many lives can a Scorpio live?

Before that though, in March 2018, transiting Jupiter will station retrograde at 23+ Scorpio, Hillary’s South Node which is opposite her North Node that conjuncts Trump’s MC.

Seems impossible now I know, but nothing is predictable in the present political climate.

great title for the trumpster!

This WAPO Piece was so interesting.
Check the Comments, amazing how it’s all Obama and Liberal’s fault:
“How nostalgia for white Christian America drove so many Americans to vote for Trump” https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/how-nostalgia-for-white-christian-america-drove-so-many-americans-to-vote-for-trump/2017/01/04/4ef6d686-b033-11e6-be1c-8cec35b1ad25_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_mayberry-915am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.6535a9213e34#comments

I very rarely watch television. And I’m not the most adept person with internet use and issues. But as far as I know, if you google Rachel Maddow and MSNBC you should go directly to her show’s website.



RE: Singh & Trump impeachment.
Convicted and ousted as well?

IMHO, Pence is more dangerous than Trump.

Eliseo….it is my firm belief that if the Puppet goes down he will take the Con party with him, especially those who stood at his side and aided and abetted.


Pence held court in private meetings with GOP members of the House, and then the Senate, on Wednesday.

Those visits are set to become more permanent: Like Dick Cheney, the soon-to-be vice president will have office space in both the Senate — where he technically presides as president and will cast tie-breaking votes — and the House, too.

He also plans to attend weekly policy lunches, positioning Pence as President-elect’s chief fixer on Capitol Hill.


Mike Pence Natal Chart

That would be good to see, although I envision both good and bad consequences stemming from the event.

You used the phrase “firm belief.” I am curious. Does your belief stem from intuition, and/or astrology, and/or reasoning? Also, if reasoning, what might those reasons be?

Hey barbk,

I’m going to take the skeptic’s view of the upcoming Hillary + Trump transits in association…. my clues come from the following Jupiter SRX which you noted ( thank you for the great post) herein the background atmosphere as seen from the simultaneous, power hungry, ghoulish grins on Mike Pence, Paul Ryan, and Kevin McCarthy faces 1/4/2017…. I’m thinking they would continue doing their worst to former political enemies …. these menacing guys wouldn’t be shy about using Hillary as a near-future political football… maybe as distraction from their destructive hate/hurt legislation they’ll be pushing through the 115th Holocaust-Congress;

Re: March 2018, Jupiter SRX @ 23 Scorpio

Feb. Lunar Eclipse 2017 & Jupiter SRX 2018 forms… Fixed Grand Cross By Synastry

2017 LE Moon 22 Leo
Natal N. Node 23 Taurus – Hillary + Trump N/MC 24 Taurus
2017 LE Sun 22 Aquarius
2018 Jupiter SRX 23 Scorpio
+ Hillary N/S.Node + Trump N/IC

2017 LE (full moon)


Eliseo…I would say intuition. I have long had a feeling that the bottom will fall out from beneath the Puppet at some point. I’m horrified by what’s going on in this country at the same time as I’m waiting. Months or years…I don’t know but I feel his undoing is already in place. Already there is talk of treason going around. And it will be bad enough that those who are/were his allies will be tarred with the same brush. Hence bye, bye Pence. I said the same about Christie 2 yrs ago. It’s so obvious to me you can see it coming.

continued –

when there is a mundane, geopolitical fixed grand cross then extremes are present and the fixed sign grand cross aspect is lethal it brings about the end of things….


maybe it will come from this seed event:


At Least 50 Trump Electors Were Illegitimately Seated as Electoral College Members

More evidence surfaces as calls mount to challenge congressional ratification of Electoral College vote.


continued – – illegal electors

More than 50 Electoral College members who voted for Donald Trump were ineligible to serve as presidential electors because they did not live in the congressional districts they represented or held elective office in states legally barring dual officeholders.

That stunning finding is among the conclusions of an extensive 1,000-plus page legal briefing prepared by a bipartisan nationwide legal team for members of Congress who are being urged to object to certifying the 2016 Electoral College results on Friday.

“Trump’s ascension to the presidency is completely illegitimate,” said Ryan Clayton of Americans Take Action, who is promoting the effort.

“It’s not just Russians hacking our democracy. It’s not just voter suppression at unprecedented levels. It is also that there are Republicans illegally casting ballots in the Electoral College, and in a sufficient number that the results of the Electoral College proceedings are illegitimate as well.”

Could be Alex, though my suspicion, with nothing to back it up, is that it will come out of the blue, a big smack in the head for all of us. We’ll see.

I share your intuition. Many others do as well, including Michael Moore. But does your intuition include the R. party as a whole, or merely the Trumpists?

The R. party has become a very sick beast over the decades. If it has to go down, it has to go down. If it goes out of business, c’est la vie.

But I’m profoundly uncomfortable with one party rule. IMHO, the Dem party (as of late) has been less prone to the level of ideological idolatry the R’s have sunk to, but that’s not to say they are without fault. Dems are blind and irrational on SOME issues, just as current day R’s are blind and irrational on MOST issues. We do need balance.


I’ve noticed that your intuition is good 🙂

2018 Jupiter SRX & SD

March 3, 2018 JU SRX @ 23 Scorpio
July 10, 2016 JU SD @ 13 Scorpio


It wouldn’t be a story about Donald Trump if it didn’t start with “in a break with precedent.”

In this case, it’s a break with decades of precedent: Trump has told all politically appointed U.S. ambassadors around the world that they must return home by Inauguration Day, full stop, end of story, consequences be damned.


What a jackhole: Trump orders all ambassadors to yank their kids out of school and come home ASAP

By David Nir
Thursday Jan 05, 2017 · 7:02 PM

Hunter at dailykos

News agencies are reporting that now-retired Sen. Dan Coats will be selected as Donald Trump’s director of national intelligence. Let’s meet him.

Sen. Dan Coats, R-Ind., wrote four tweets Monday evening in opposition to Donald Trump’s call earlier in the day to prevent all foreign Muslims from entering the United States.

“Once again, Donald Trump has chosen bombastic rhetoric over sound judgment,” Coats tweeted about the leading candidate for the Republican presidential nomination.

Whoops, our mistake—those comments were from a year ago. Now Coats has exchanged his last scraps of integrity for pocket change and a ticket on the Trump Train. He’ll be tasked, like so many of Trump’s other nominees, largely with gutting the infrastructure he’s being appointed to.

Mr. Coats, a mild-mannered conservative who served on the Senate Intelligence and Armed Services Committees, would be stepping into a position that some in Mr. Trump’s orbit believe is superfluous.

Mr. Trump has named a more hard-charging conservative, Representative Mike Pompeo, to be his director of central intelligence.

Trump specifically believes the Office of the Director of National Intelligence “has become bloated and politicized.” His distaste for the position, and for much of the rest of the intelligence community, is based on his own (mentally unbalanced) belief that the intelligence community is dumb and he iz smarter than all of them put together, and is based even more on his personal narcissistic pique over intelligence agencies tarnishing his election win by continuing to investigate Russia’s involvement even though he doesn’t want them to.

So Trump’s team is looking to scale back American intelligence agencies until they no longer upset him. That’s the task Dan Coats is signing up for.


Representative Mike Pompeo


Pompeo is a member of the House Select Committee on Intelligence and one of the most vocal critics of the Obama administration’s nuclear deal with Iran.

He’s a supporter of the National Security Agency’s controversial bulk data collection program and sought to restore the agency’s access to the data it had already collected under the Patriot Act from its inception through late last year.

Pompeo, who grew up in the traditionally Republican enclave of Orange County, California, founded Thayer Aerospace, a company that made parts for commercial and military aircraft. After selling Thayer, he became president of Sentry International, a company that manufactures and sells equipment used in oil fields.

He was elected to Congress in 2010 on a wave of tea party support and with backing from the Koch Industries political action committee.


Congressman Richard Neal took aim at a Republican-backed rules package that passed the U.S. House this week, contending that the measure shields the cost of repealing the Affordable Care Act and helps GOP leaders in their aim to dismantle the law.

Neal further accused the rules package of being “a sneaky effort to alter Medicare and its guarantee,” adding that Social Security changes would be next.

Biden tells Trump to ‘grow up’


Washington Post:

House Republicans revive obscure rule that allows them to slash the pay of individual federal workers to $1

House Republicans this week reinstated an arcane procedural rule that enables lawmakers to reach deep into the budget and slash the pay of an individual federal worker — down to a $1 — a move that threatens to upend the 130-year-old civil service.

The Holman Rule, named after an Indiana congressman who devised it in 1876, empowers any member of Congress to offer an amendment to an appropriations bill that targets a specific government employee or program.

A majority of the House and the Senate would still have to approve any such amendment.


continued – Holman Rule

The revival of the Holman Rule was the brainchild of Rep. H. Morgan Griffith (R-Va.), who is intent on increasing the powers of individual members of Congress to reassign workers as policy demands.


Weasel Paul Ryan Announces Plan to Defund Planned Parenthood in Obamacare Repeal

In a move that doesn’t surprise but still disappoints, House Speaker Paul Ryan stated that Planned Parenthood would be stripped of federal funding should Republicans repeal Obamacare later this month.

Paul Ryan’s Natal Chart


Eliseo…I feel like the Cons will enter the wilderness, having their own soul searching to do. Given their plans to destroy the very fabric of this nation, they remind me of “the little foxes who spoil the vines” and will have to pay the piper. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. In short, Lord Karma has already listed them in his phone book. And I also believe that Bernadette Brady was correct when she said the Dems would hold the WH until 2024. So what happened? A wrong that will have to be redressed at some point in the future? WE will see what we will see.

Thank you Alex, what a kind thing to say.

One more thing Eliseo, I am reminded of the Bush presidency and how so many of us could see the disaster that would come to be. This has the feel of being even bigger or more mendacious.

Face the Nation – hinge moment in history
“Trump Will Either ‘Cause a Constitutional Crisis or Have a Completely Incompetent Presidency’ 2017 ”


for instance:

You intuition is more meaningful to me than Face the Nation…..yada yada

BTW have you any astrology comment to make on …..
anything that interests you or
maybe Jupiter SRX & SD in 2018
I think that will be significant time window

Anyone here have any thoughts how the 2018 Midterm Elections look? Like the United States Chart and Trump’s chart?

You chose your biblical metaphor well. The many vines and grapes they would devour have grown into their respective places from Theodore. Roosevelt forward.

“I am reminded of the Bush presidency and how so many of us could see the disaster that would come to be. This has the feel of being even bigger or more mendacious.” –I agree entirely.–

Also, my view of karma is neither literal nor anthropomorphic, but I do believe the R’s will get their comeuppance from the American people. It is just a question of how long the process will take. Considering the coming transits, especially the Uranus and Pluto return for the USA, I suspect we’ll get our country back concomitant with or shortly after those dates.


Re: Face the Nation

Fascinating review on the vexing problems of a Donald Trump presidency. A real eye opener.

Remember when the transition team asked for names of climate change staff at DOE and women’s program staff at State?

This is why.

House GOP revives 1876 rule that allows them to target individual federal workers, cut their pay to $1.

That face the Nation clip was superior.

RE: “House GOP revives 1876 rule that allows them to target individual federal workers, cut their pay to $1.”

This is the kind of thing which will eventually lead somebody to become unhinged and do something violent. Just a matter of time.

Trump’s DC Hotel Tagged With $5 Million in Unpaid Worker Liens

January 6, 2017

Donald Trump’s new Washington hotel, located just blocks from the White House, owes electricians, wood workers and a plumbing and heating business more than $5 million for unpaid labor, according to liens filed against the property with the District of Columbia.

The 263-room hotel, located on the historic site of the city’s former main post office, opened in October following a $212 million renovation of the 1899 structure. The liens were filed in November and December, according to public records.

Trump has acknowledged not always paying all his bills, saying it’s often a negotiating tactic when work is subpar. His companies have been sued numerous times over unpaid work. Among them were landscapers at Riverside South Park in Manhattan, who sued in 2001 seeking $111,000. Contractors at Trump Park Avenue sued in 2003 seeking $206,000. And in 2010 a painter in Chicago sued a Trump entity developing a high-rise claiming to be owed more than $4 million.



This is disturbing. Will the Trump administration see a rise in racial tensions and hate crimes?

Chicago Torture Video: 4 Charged With Hate Crimes, Kidnapping

January 6, 2017

“…..Video of the torture has stunned the country, not just because of the graphic abuse, but because of the comments made by some of the assailants.
“*F*ck Donald Trump!” one attacker shouted in the video. “F*ck white people!”

The teen was tied up for four or five hours, Cmdr. Kevin Duffin of the Chicago Police Department told reporters. The victim will recover from his injuries and is at home with his parents, police said.



Thanks for the face the nation Clip, which got me onto this


I would like some more discussion about this Israel thing and what people think of whether obama really did something that will have great ramifications?

Jerry, racial tensions were ALREADY in play. SOME storied just don’t get the attention that others get.



Well worth the listen esp finally if liberals want to end up not going down the road of the far right

Just listened to the end of the podcast it’s probably going to piss off a couple people what he not Sam harris bu the interviewee says about Trump however has anyone ever done the chats for general Mattis I have only heard pretty good things about him Would be interesting to know


read yesterday a black church burned and it was spray painted with message “Trump 17”

I am not an astrology expert Alex though I have followed and consulted astrologers all my life. As for 2018, if he goes on as he is starting I can’t see him lasting beyond that. One way or the other his situation is going to implode and we will be rid of him and his grifter spawn. I am curious as to what Nancy’s next article will say and what Mr. Singh predicts.

Trouble In Paradise?

Mattis clashing with Trump transition team over Pentagon staffing


This is not astrological. (I’m not sure how we would astrologically differentiate between rural people and city folk astrologically.) But it does have social/political importance.

January 5, 2017
NYT Makes the Case for Trump Via Racialized Rural Mythology
By Jim Naureckas

“Key to understanding these Trump-voting neighbors, Leonard says, is their theological belief that people are born bad. Though to hear him explain their worldview, it would be more accurate to say they believe that progressives are born bad: The conservative culture, he writes,

views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous…. Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed.

Rural Trump fans, on the other hand, are apparently the salt of the earth: “They’re hard workers…. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops,” he says of two representative Trump enthusiasts of his acquaintance, teenage go-getters whom he quotes declaring: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.”

The link above leads to an interesting critique about what we are dealing with politically in the social psychological sense. It also reports rural people believe (falsely) that they contribute more in taxes than urban people do.

I too have noticed this strange theology for decades now, that Liberals, Progressives, etc. are somehow tainted, born with some sort of “original sin” but rural folk, farm folk, and conservatives are full of virtue. The early Romantic era fomented the notion of virtuous farm folk and morally compromised “moderns,” especially in the poetry of Robert Burns. But today it is on steroids. It is exponentially more powerful.

I’m not sure where this is coming from. But I speculate it may be from fundamentalist & literalist beliefs which are more prevalent in rural areas and small towns, mixed with the inability to find any sense of meaning within the “modern” paradigm.

Not quite two decades ago, I had a world religious studies student named “David.” He was an older man who during his time attending my classes came down with a brain tumor. Before it eventually killed him, when he was just beginning to get ill, I remember visiting him at his house many times. His progressive minded New Thought wife was there, as well as a number of his rural fundamentalist relatives. I’ll never forget what one of them said to me. She looked at me with a bewildered expression, sadness in her eyes, and with complete and utter sincerity said,

“You’re an educated man, and David thinks so highly of you. Can you tell me…. I mean I don’t understand…..Why do so many of these scientists tell these horrible, terrible lies?”

They really were from a different world, one I only partially (if at all) understand.

A bright new star will burst into the sky in five years, astronomers predict

“A binary star found in the summer constellation Cygnus the swan will burst into a red nova sometime in 2022…..
When the two stars in the binary system crash into one another, they will create a brick-red beacon so bright that sky gazers will see it with the naked eye”


I’m not sure of the astrological significance of this, but I note it will occur the same year, 2022, as the Pluto return for our Declaration of Independence. The Pluto return will occur February 10, 2022 with PL (roughly) @ 27 degrees 28 minutes Capricorn. Astronomers do not have a precise date for the red nova. Their calculations only conclude it will pop sometime in 2022.

M: Eliseo…I feel like the Cons will enter the wilderness, having their own soul searching to do.

There’s a problem–cons don’t have souls.

I can relate to this discussion about rural folks believing progressives are bad. I grew up in rural NC and remember when I was in high school, my father joking to others “if I had a child at UNC -CH (university of NC Chapel Hill) and one in Central Prison, I’d work to get the one out of prison because I’d have more hope for that one.” BTW, my father’s words were prophetic–I graduated from UNC and while in graduate school for social work, my brother was “processed through” Central Prison during his incarceration for drug offenses. There is such a fear of a liberal education.

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Good for you Alisa. I’m glad you graduated!

And I fully relate. (A) I lived in NC for a while.
(B) My parents were not as bad as that, (although my mother was against my getting a good education because she knew a college diploma would enable me to go far away from her.)

But I’ve known so many who took the attitude that education was dangerous because it would “take you away from the Lord!” There are many still who believe you are morally compromised if you’ve earned a BS, BA, or graduate degree. Some of my students have had to contend with that. it is a problem I thought would have ameliorated itself decades ago, but it is still with us.


I began watching scary/horror movies sometime in Oct before the election. In my entire life I hadn’t watched scary/horror films…. but in October it aligned with my dread of an Orange win.. the projection of a horror/scary nightmare and that’s the way it is…. it is a nightmare

From a facebook post – the TRUMP-RUSSIA connection spelled out in simple terms – whaddaya think?

“Ok follow the connections
1) Trump owes Blackstone/Bayrock group $560 million dollars (1 of his largest debtors).
2) Blackstone is owned wholly by Russian billionaires who owe their position to Putin and have made billions from their work with the Russian government.
3) Other companies that have borrowed from Blackstone have claimed, owing money to them is like owing to the Russian mob and while you owe them, they own you for many favors.
4)The Russian economy is badly faltering under the weight of its over dependence on raw materials, which as you know, have plummeted in the last 2 years leaving the Russian economy scrambling to pay its debts.
5. Russia can only build its military when the per barrel oil prices are above $65 ( they are currently hovering around $50).
6)Russia can’t afforadably get at 80% of its oil reserves and reduce its per barrel cost to compete with America at $45. Or Saudi Arabia at $14 and with Iranian sanctions being lifted russia will find another inexpensive competitor increasing production and pushing russia further down the list of suppliers And as for Iranian sanctions,the 6 countries lifting them allowing Iran to collect on the billions it is owed for pumping oil but not being paid for it. These billions Iran can only get if the Iranian nuclear deal is signed, and which candidate spoke of ending the deals which would cause oil sales sanctions to be reimposed, which would make Russian oil more competitive.
7) Rex Tillerson is the head of ExxonMobil, who is in possession of technology, patented technology that could help putin extract 45% more oil at a significant cost savings to Russia, helping Putin put money in the Russian coffers to help reconstitute it’s military and finally afford to mass purchase the new and improved systems that it had invented before the Russians economy had slowed so much.
8) Putin cannot get access to these new cost savi
ng technologies OR outside oil field development money, due to US sanctions on Russia, over its involvement in Ukrainian civil war
9) look for Trump to end sanctions on Russia and to back out of the Iranian Nuclear deal, to help Russia rebuild its economy, strengthen Putin and make Tillerson and Trump even richer..Allowing trump to satisfy his creditors at Blackstone
10) With Trumps hatred of NATO, Russian military reconstituted, the threat to the baltic states is real russia retaking their access to the baltic sea from Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia and threatening the shipping of millions of cubic feet of natural gas to lower Europe from Scandinavia and allowing for russia to make a good case for its oil and gas being piped into eastern Europe, especially if it threatens all that oil and gas from Scandinavia..
Addendum to my story..
11) The same Russian dark company accounts that have been linked in the past to buying intelligence about American patents, businesses and military, which are thought to be held by legitimate Russian companies but controlled by the Kremlin FSB (KGB to us older folks) is the same company that captured and deported the Russian spy, dubbed the “sexy spy” by US newspapers flushed with cash to buy Intel, is right now funneling $2 million dollars into the accounts of the Ecuadorian government every 6 months, without owning a single business in Ecuador….And who is hiding out in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, who said his stated goal was to bring down Hillary Clinton and whose leak website did all this DNC emails and correspondence end up on?”

Congratulations Alisa! I had a different experience in that my parents wanted all of their children to graduate college. My older brother and I did, my little brother, got caught up in the PIC system. We often wonder how children with the same upbringing have such different outcomes.

Hi everyone,

I’ve been closely following this blog for about 6 months and have really enjoyed the conversations despite the depressing content about the country’s current situation. I don’t know if others have shared this yet, but a group of progressive Congressional staffers have put together a guide called Indivisible: A Practical Guide for Resisting the Trump Agenda, Former Congressional Staffers Reveal Best Practices for Making Congress Listen. It’s a step-by-step guide for individuals, groups, and organizations looking to replicate the Tea Party’s success in getting Congress to listen to small yet vocal, dedicated groups of constituents. The guide is meant to help stiffen Democratic spines and weaken pro-Trump Republican resolve. This is especially important given the Intelligence communities’ findings of the Russian hacking and its effect on our election.


Would love to hear your thoughts.

wow Sharon – sounds plausible/logical to me!
follow the money

Steve Judd’s latest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGxmf-manXI&index=1&list=UU5cNm7NHg3fJUVQM1Bcfmdw

Never did I realize this much hatred was coming from our fellow Conservative Americans. It scares me so much!
“Liberals Awake from 8-Year Moral Coma”
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According To Declassified Report, Russians Hacked Local And State Election Boards

The report instead says, “Russian intelligence accessed elements of multiple state or local electoral boards. Since early 2014, Russian intelligence has researched US electoral processes and related technology and equipment.”


Patty, that article gave me chills, so much hate…. is this really how they think. Then I see articles like this on infowars

Honestly the division and hatred I think seems like it will get way way worse before it gets better if it ever does.
Disillusioned Diana

Just finished watching Micheal Moore’s “Where to Invade Next” on EPIX. It’s excellent. I’m not usually that big of a fan of his movies, although, I do like him a lot, but this one is truly exceptional.

Michael visits other countries around the world showing how they treat their prisoners and citizens. My husband said it made him feel even more ashamed of our country than he was before.

Very powerful stuff.

Elisio, what an interesting thought; how astrology might differentiate between rural and city dwellers from a social-political perspective. No doubt there have been theories postulated, even studies by astrologers which I might search for when time allows.

I would assume one would start with the two planets deemed to represent societies; Saturn (contraction) and Jupiter (expansion) and go from there. Setting aside specific religious beliefs, we might assume that city-dwellers might generally be more cosmopolitan in attitude while rural dwellers would generally be more inclined to focus on the local traditions and customs.

Here we can see the protective and insulating (less exposure to the world) qualities coming forth from Saturn’s symbolism for rural dwellers, while the all encompassing characteristics of Jupiter would – in this case – relate to city dwellers.

This of course can be reversed to show city dwellers more exposed to bad elements in society and therefore more cautious (locking doors etc.), a Saturnian characteristic, while those living out in the country, at least in the past, would have less to fear from neighbors and likely be inclined to leave doors open or unlocked, a Jupiterian characteristic.

I suppose then it is a matter of perspective. Let’s say that people in the country are fairly independent of others, and depend on Mother Nature and the earth itself to sustain them. People in cities on the other hand, are less in touch with Nature and more dependent on enterprises (equal to Mother Nature in unpredictability) to provide a source of income. This becomes – for the individual – a difference between independence (an Aries thing) and a more communal or even partnership (Libra) life style.

Since we are talking about individuals who vote and/or make decisions based on attitudes and experience, a pluralistic view would enhance the city dweller’s experience of life whereas an individual living in the country might be less inclined to feel the need to deviate far from his or her own attitudes and practices. This being a very general supposition it still lends itself to the polar opposites found in the signs Cancer (less need for worldliness; a more inner view) and Capricorn (worldliness; a more outer view).

One could also look at it from an elemental perspective; ie. earth (tactile) and water (sense) signs more likely associated with rural living, and air (communicate) and fire (inspiration) signs more likely associated with densely populated living.

I suppose then that astrology might clarify an individual’s reasons for leaving the country life for the big city life or a city dweller escaping to the country for peace and quiet. I’m not so sure that generalizations will work any more as the digital world keeps expanding and information is plentiful and no longer containable in Pandora’s box.

Perhaps the Universal Plan calls for a shift toward a more homogenized perspective, communications opening up even the most remote parts of the world. I will ponder that.

New post up:


This is far down from where I posted… but I wanted to thank all who responded to me. I appreciate your thoughts and well-wishes. I’m still where I work on this house one day, and lupus lays me low for 2. If I could just get over my generalized fear – especially if SS will be there for me when I have to retire. This is the #1 thing for me. I’m a worry wort from the word “go”… but I’ve never been fearful. That has to stop.

Again, thank you for your kind words. I may not write here often, but I’m always over here reading. My expertise is the Tarot, tho Astrology was my first and life-long love.

Peace and love to all… and may we all come to learn to lean on each other thru the next few years, especially.

Everyone’s lives will be hammered…you or your kids, your parents or your grandparents because of the holocaust 115th hate/hurt GOP Congress

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