The Struggle Begins

For the first time in decades, the US is officially talking to Iran. Moreover, an agreement has been worked out between Iran and six world powers, including the US, to begin easing some of the economic sanctions in exchange for a 6-month freeze on Iran’s nuclear program. Negotiations for a more lasting accord will continue in the meantime. Given the acrimonious history, each of the two sides is apprehensive and extremely cautious about trusting the other.

In the US, this distrust is manifesting in a broad bipartisan effort in the Senate to pass further debilitating sanctions on Iran as a declaration of America’s punitive intentions should the current process fail. President Obama is adamantly opposed to this measure, fearing it will sabotage the entire effort. Indeed, Iran has as much as promised the deal will end should further sanctions be added to the mix.

Using diplomacy, invigorated by crippling sanctions, in order to shift the dangerous trajectory toward war between Iran and the US is probably the biggest foreign policy goal of the Obama administration. In large measure, due to the success of this program, Iran has come to the table for the first time. The president is extremely invested in the continuation of this delicate process and unwilling to let an interfering Congress disrupt it. The intensifying power struggle between Obama and the Congress on how to go forward is the result.

The astrological elements active at present are indicative of the unfolding drama. On the one hand, transiting Jupiter is now conjunct the US Sun (13Cancer19), from January 14 through January 22. This time-frame includes the build-up to January 20, the date when USchartthe agreement with Iran goes into effect. On the whole, Americans are cautiously optimistic (Jupiter) that this plan will yield positive results and prevent war. That the US can still lead an international coalition in effective diplomacy is also a source of national pride, another Jupiter attribute. Additionally, this uplifting Jupiter transit has brought a relatively crisis-free bipartisan budget deal that will ease many of the negative consequences of the ill-conceived sequester, the beginning of the much-heralded process of destroying Syria’s chemical weapons, and signs of a significantly improved economy. Moreover, this Jupiter transit will continue for another week and may still include a dramatic declaration of US power somewhere in the world before it is done.

Unfortunately, bubbling under the surface of these various successes is the growing tension between the president and Congress. Transiting Pluto is currently quincunx obamaPresident Obama’s Sun (12Leo33) from January 9 through February 8, returning from April 13 to June 23, and again November 9 through December 14, 2014. One element of this is likely to be the president deciding to more fully exercise his executive powers in order for his goals not to be suffocated by those who would thwart him. 

In what will probably bring a further escalation of this building conflict between the executive and legislative branches of our government, as well as possibly a more dramatic power struggle emerging from some as yet undefined struggle, transiting Pluto is about to move into an opposition with the US Sun (13Cancer19), from February 1 through May 19, while simultaneously moving to conjunct the Congress Sun (13Capricorn29) from February 8 through May 16. The existent issues we are witnessing in January are likely to only be a prelude to a much more fierce battle that will run from February through May 2014 and return from December 7 through January 8, 2015.

With Pluto opposite the US Sun, each side in the perceived clash will feel its survival threatened in some way, leading to a vigilant, relentless endeavor against a recognized foe. The underlying experience will be one of tremendous anxiety combined with herculean effort. It is not impossible that events during the Jupiter/Pluto opposition from January 23 to January 31 may in some way precipitate the stresses that will begin to emerge in February. Moreover, as Jupiter, Mars and Uranus all join this Pluto transit to the US Sun in April, they will create the enormous, clashing energy of a cardinal cross, and the profound struggles of the Sun/Pluto opposition are likely to mushroom into an as-yet-unknown, high-stakes drama.


  1. starlight says:

    New York Starlighters, if you are interested in meeting for brunch this coming Sunday in New York, please contact me if you have not already done so.

  2. Lorrie U says:

    Starlight – The house members in particular and GOP in general are still dedicated to keeping the economy in a spin and doing anything that would make Pres. Obama look successful in any way. That they would undermine negotiations with Iran is certainly one way to sabatoge this president, plus the fact that they are fearful to begin with, does suggest that profound struggles may arise over Iran especially. It doesn’t help that 16 democrats seem to be onboard as well. The president sure is walking through a mine field.

  3. Lorrie U says:

    Alex and barbk – I think you are spot on in your Christie chart analysis!! It all seems to fit. Good job.

  4. Lorrie U says:

    Hillary Clinton Discussed U.S. Approval of an Israeli Strike On Iran

    Clinton did not actually endorse the idea. She only raised the notion “as one option to consider,” according to one former official, who adds that it gained no traction inside the administration.

    Followed by excellent post by JTShroyer:

    For all those that attack Hillary on Benghazi:
    1. The nonpartisan Accountability Review Board did not find Hillary Rodham Clinton responsible for the Benghazi attacks.

    2. Republicans cut millions and millions of dollars in “embassy security.” Cuts that Hillary Clinton called “detrimental” to our security overseas.

    3. Over 50 people died from embassy/consulate attacks under George Bush’s Presidency. Where was the Republican outrage over that?

    4. The Obama Administration did not “cover-up” the Benghazi attacks. Counterterrorism Director Matthew Olsen told Senator Joe Lieberman that Benghazi was a “terrorist attack”. This was only a few days after Susan Rice went on the Sunday morning talk-shows. Therefore, this would have to be the shortest “cover-up” in history.

    Senator Joe Lieberman: “Let me begin by asking you whether you would say that Ambassador Stevens and the three other Americans died as a result of a terrorist attack.”

    Counterterrorism Director Matthew Olsen: “Certainly on that particular question I would say, yes. They were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy.”

    5. Hillary’s quote, “What difference, at this point, does it make” has been taken out of context. Hillary was referring to the Republican’s obsession with what Susan Rice said, not Benghazi itself. We now know the intelligence communities talking points that Susan Rice presented were incorrect. But to accuse the Administration of intentionally lying (when Counterterrorism Director Matthew Olsen called it a “terrorist attack” only a few days after Susan Rice went on the Sunday morning talk shows) is dishonest.

    6. The reason the YouTube video was cited as a possible reason for Benghazi is because violent protests had been erupting throughout the Middle East when Benghazi took place. Some of the protests had to do with the YouTube video, which is why it was originally thought Benghazi was also related to the YouTube video.

    Read more: Hillary Clinton Discussed U.S. Approval of an Israeli Strike On Iran |

  5. Lorrie U says:

    As if the world isn’t bizarre enough already…

    Rumor About Obama’s Tall White Aliens Ruling US Didn’t Start Where You’d Think

  6. SarahG says:

    Thank you Starlight for pulling those pieces together. I saw a headline somewhere the other day that said something about having the courts look into reducing the president’s ability to assign positions during the breaks (or something like that). I’ll try to find it.
    Have you done a chart on the November 2013 pact with Iran? I’m curious how that looks, and particularly what it says about the start of the program on the 20th. Also coming up for Iran:

    IAEA says Iran asked for nuclear talks postponement to February 8

    My concern is that the opposition by some factions (foreign and domestic) to the Iran agreement is so fierce that ‘someone’ will covertly attempt to provoke a challenge to the pact through some false flag event or independent initiative. And I’m guessing the internal politics are similar in Iran and could be sabotaged from that end as well.

  7. SarahG says:

    Here it is:

    Obama’s recess appointments: Supreme Court to hear landmark case

    Who has the authority to decide when the Senate is officially in session, the president or senators themselves? The Supreme Court Monday will hear a case focusing on President Obama’s recess appointments.
    By Warren Richey, Staff writer / January 12, 2014

  8. SarahG says:

    Supreme Court hints it may limit president’s recess-appointments power

    Justices appear likely to rule against the long-standing practice of filling high-level posts during Senate recesses.,0,2559267.story#ixzz2qayJqcoA,0,2559267.story

  9. Francis says:

    Thank you Nancy. This is one of those issues which has the potential to alter the trajectory toward peace and away from international strife and conflict. Of course the powers that have gained from the on-going cold war with Iran are working to sabotage diplomacy and those powers have vast resources: Israel and AIPAC and Saudi Arabia come to mind and their monied influence is imbeded throughout our government. I think these are definitely some of the powers symbolized by Pluto as it opposes the US Sun. I think Sarah G’s concern of a false flag to trigger something is spot on. My hope is that Americans are fed up with wars, especially wars in the Middle East and will not support military action against Iran especially if Israel provokes it with pre-emptive strikes. I wish there was some real investigative journalism going on to look into Sen. Memendez’s financial motivations for co-authoring this legislation.

  10. SarahG says:

    Meant to add this excerpt to my post from the LA Times piece above about the court’s decision on recess appointments which has recently become a more commonly used tool by presidents due to extreme party opposition and noncooperation stalemates:

    If justices curtail the presidential power, the short-term effect on Obama could be muted because the Democratic-controlled Senate scrapped a long-standing filibuster rule that had allowed the current Republican minority to block many of his nominees. But if Republicans succeed in taking back control of the Senate this fall, the court’s ruling could carry more weight.
    Based on the tenor of the questions, justices appeared likely to rule against Obama, but they did not signal whether they would hand down a broad or narrow opinion.
    They could rule narrowly that Obama went too far by making appointments during a brief break rather than a formal recess, or they could rule broadly that the Constitution does not allow the president to make recess appointments whenever the Senate could be called to vote on a nominee.,0,2559267.story#ixzz2qayJqcoA

  11. Mary says:

    Hello All,

    I have sent letters to Ms. Hernandez and Mr. Samuels on behalf of John Kirakou.
    Wanted to share this opportunity to help someone who paid a high price to expose torture.
    Please consider taking the time to support John Kiriakou.

    Former CIA officer and torture whistleblower John Kiriakou had a deal with the Bureau of Prisons: he would stop writing “Letters from Loretto,” decline the press and drop his complaints in exchange for 9 months in a halfway house. 1

    But in a new letter, John says prison officials are going back on their deal to have him out by August 2014. Now they are threatening to keep him in prison for 6 months longer than they originally promised. Sensing that the situation has become “political in nature,” John has decided to end his silence and fight back, and we’re standing with him.

    In a matter of weeks, Erlinda Hernandez at the BOP will decide whether John will go to the halfway house or remain in prison for longer than he was promised. Can you please write her a letter immediately and ask for John Kiriakou to be moved to the halfway house for 9 months?

    The address is:

    Erlinda Hernandez
    Bureau of Prisons
    Residential Reentry Office
    P.O. Box 7000
    Butner, NC 27509

    If possible, please copy:

    Mr. Charles Samuels
    Director of Bureau of Prisons
    320 First St. NW
    Washington, DC 20534

    Your letter should be simple and to-the-point: John Kiriakou is a patriotic American who blew the whistle on war crimes. He has been an exceptional prisoner and deserves to be at home with his wife and five children, not in a federal penitentiary. Please give John Kiriakou 9 months in a halfway house so that he will be released by August 2014.

    Hernandez and the Bureau of Prisons will be deciding John’s fate at the end of this month. Please write to them immediately in support of their original deal.

    Thanks for all you do.

    In solidarity,

    Brian Sonenstein
    Associate Publisher,


    1. CIA Whistleblower John Kiriakou: Prison Broke Promise of Nine Months in Halfway House, Will Resume Letters, Kevin Gosztola, 1/6/2014.

  12. starlight says:

    The other thing to keep in mind regarding Iran is that the upcoming Jupiter /Uranus square will be hitting the Iranian Sun for an extended period. Jupiter will be particularly strong. I would think that would imply optimism and a sense of greater well being, perhaps due to the loosening of the sanctions.

    If the US/Iranian detente goes well, the upcoming cardinal clash may have more to do with the burgeoning Sunni/Shiite confrontation in several countries, including the expanding mess in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and even Pakistan and how it, in turn, may feed into fears or deeds of terrorism.

  13. Elizabeth says:

    Thank you Nancy..

    Since the fierce battle appears to conclude by Jan 8th 2015, I am still holding out hope for a Democratic Congress being sworn on Jan 20th, 2015!

  14. SarahG says:

    “Rebalancing” of American forces in Asia

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The United States said on Tuesday it will send 800 more soldiers and about 40 Abrams main battle tanks and other armored vehicles to South Korea next month as part of a military rebalance to East Asia after more than a decade of war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
    The battalion of troops and M1A2 tanks and about 40 Bradley fighting vehicles from the 1st U.S. Cavalry Division based at Fort Hood, Texas, will begin a nine-month deployment in South Korea on February 1.

    A Pentagon spokesman said the personnel would remain for nine months but on departing would leave their equipment behind to be used by follow-on rotations of U.S. forces.

    “This addition of forces to Korea is part of the rebalance to the Pacific. It’s been long planned and is part of our enduring commitment to security on the Korean peninsula,” Army Colonel Steve Warren said.

    U.S./South Korea to begin military exercises/war games, as N. Korea protests:

  15. SarahG says:

    I wonder if the recent act by China to enact a ‘no fly’ zone had less to do with the disputed islands and more to do with the build up and shift of emphasis of the U.S. forces in that region? It just seems like all the players in that region are shifting around in preparation for an attack or showdown, possibly involving N. Korea?

    Here’s just a little more evidence of this shifting –

    Collaboration between Japan and Indian Coast Guard

    In the backdrop of mounting tensions between Japan and China over Chinese enforcement of a ‘no-fly zone’ over the disputed Senkaku a.k.a Diaoyu group of islands, Indian and Japan Coast Guard chiefs held a high-level meeting in Delhi on Monday. They also witnessed from aboard Indian Coast Guard’s advanced offshore patrol vessel Samrat a joint exercise conducted some 20 nautical miles off Kochi on Tuesday.

    “The matter of jurisdiction of Senkaku islands is the biggest issue facing the Japan Coast Guard,” Admiral Yuji Sato, Commandant of the Japan Coast Guard, told the media at a joint interaction aboard ICGS Samrat. “Senkaku is our territory. But due to Chinese advances in the sector, it has come up as an issue now. Our effort, however, is not to escalate it. On a daily basis, we are working hard to ensure safe and secure seas as per the international laws,” he said in response to a query from The Hindu.

  16. SarahG says:

    FOUND a chart online of the November pact with Iran on the nuclear deal on Planetwaves:

  17. alex says:

    Pluto Opposite Sun ( background Pluto conjunct Sun)

    Pluto conjunct Sun

    A conjunction of the Sun and Pluto shows possession of the traits of an extremist.

    Pluto opposition Sun

    The opposition of the Sun and Pluto shows a defensive attitude when challenged. There is a compulsive power drive that creates an aura of forcefulness.


    Michael McClain



    Perhaps the greatest impact of retrograde planets can be felt when the outer planets turn retrograde while forming a transit aspect to one of your natal planets. If, for example, transiting Neptune has formed a conjunction with your natal Sun position, the interpretation might be:

    “T Neptune conjunct N Sun on the positive side tends to increase your sensitivity and compassion for others. You may be much more inclined to set aside your own ego and lend a helping hand to those in need of your assistance.

    Neptune causes the ego drive of the Sun to diminish. It is from this aspect of the contact that the negative influence of the conjunction emerges.

    A common reaction to this transit is fatigue and an attitude of being defeated. You are likely to feel disappointed or especially sorry for yourself, as well as for others.

    This is not a good aspect for anyone who has a problem with drinking or drugs. The body is extremely sensitive to external influences and less able to resist strain of any type.

    Another result of this transit is that you may be inclined to deceive others, as if your ego energy is trying to make you appear as something other than what you really are.

    You are likely to be unusually idealistic under this transit. It’s necessary to insure that these ideals are rooted in reality and are not merely a device for escaping it.”

    Now if Neptune were to go slow to a stop and start to slowly travel in reverse for a while, this aspect might stay in orb for a number of months. The potential for a negative impact would be significant.

    Thus, some of our longest runs of good luck and of bad luck can be traced to an outer planet in transit forming aspects to planets in the natal map.

  18. alex says:

    Christie Update: (little bit of insight into how Christie was intending/or may continue to build a presidential campaign)

    20 people and orgs that were subpoenaed today ~ per

    • Matt Mowers, a former aide to the governor.

    The day after Christie’s re-election, Mowers was named executive director of the New Hampshire GOP.

  19. Lorrie U says:

    Discovery of quantum vibrations in ‘microtubules’ corroborates theory of consciousness

  20. Lorrie U says:

    A must read!!

    Christie and Koch in Cahoots? It’s Time to Subpoena the Committee for Our Children’s Future
    By Greg Palast, Truthout

  21. alex says:

    – thx and good catch Truthout – Christie (Our Children’s Future)

    (background May 2010 – Manhattan Institute, Paul Singer)

    Koch – Christie
    January 2011 – meeting, NYC
    June 26, 2011 – meeting, Vail CO

    Koch Money, Through Christie/NJ, Impacts Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative

    May 27, 2011 – Christie pulls New Jersey out of the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative

  22. alex says:


    2014 Senate – Koch Money, Americans for Prosperity

    Democratic Senatorial Campaign Fundraising 2014, Guy Cecil

    The Koch Brothers Targets For Pickup Senate Seats:


    GOP – Terry Land VS D – Gary Peters

    GOP – Paul Broun VS D – Michelle Nunn

  23. alex says:

    Christies – continued – Natal Ceres (Expresses Vengence)
    Christie Natal Fire Trine:

    Moon @10 Sagittarius
    Eris @10 Aries
    Ceres @09 Leo

    May 27 2011 – Gov. Christie pulls out of Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative (Koch)

    August 13,2013 Anne Kelly Email “Time for some traffic problems”

    Christie: Natal Asteroids, extreme destructive expression

    Juno (balance of power & control issues in relationships, partnerships, vengence if betrayed)

    Ceres (nurturing mother energy, self nurturing, doing what is best for oneself, vengence if betrayed)

    Natal Ceres @09 Leo
    Natal Juno @15 Leo
    Natal Vesta @15 Leo

    5/27/2011 Trenton NJ chart: Pulls out of Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative

    First Impression YOD

    T/Pluto @06 Capricorn
    T/Sun @06 Gemini
    Natal Christie Ceres @09 Leo

    Email – Time for Traffic Problems
    8/13/2013 Chart – Trenton NJ

    First Impression YOD

    T/Juno @09 Aquarius rx
    Christie Natal Pluto @10 Virgo (novile degree)
    T/Jupiter @10 Cancer

    Apex Yod T/Juno @09 Aquarius rx
    Christie Natal Ceres @09 Leo

    2014 Transits

    March 4, 2014 T/Juno @00 Aries (novile degree)

    October 10, 2014 T/ Juno @00 Leo (novile degree)

    Zero Aries (135 degrees) from Christie Natal Juno,Vesta @15 Leo

    Zero Leo (15 degree minor aspect) to Christie Natal Juno, Vesta @15 Leo

    Zero Leo (conjunct) Christie Natal Ceres @09 Leo

  24. alex says:

    Christie – Koch Meeting Vail CO, June 26, 2011

    Koch Agenda – Christie’s Agenda

    cut Medicare
    cut Medicaid
    cut Social Security
    cut Teacher’s Pensions

  25. alex says:

    Billionaires & Ballot Bandits – Greg Palast

    The 2012 Election was stolen! WHAAAAT?? Yes, Obama got most of the votes and was inaugurated.

    But 4.3 million votes were never counted – and another 4.8 million citizens were barred from registering or voting.

    This book tells you how. And WHO. That is, WHO profited from the return of Jim Crow?

    “The Most Terrifying Book a Democrat Could Read”
    – Huffington Post Books

    Obama may be “President,” but he’s not in charge. See the chapter, Petroleum Porn: The XXXL Pipeline, on how The Koch Brothers are about to stick the XL Pipeline up America’s aquifers.

    Mitt Romney may have lost the presidency, but he secretly gained $115 million on the auto bail-out.

    Election theft for profit has become as American as apple pie.

  26. starlight says:

    Some good news: Iran sanctions effort back from the brink

    There’s some good news from Congress other than its success in avoiding another government shutdown: it seems prospects for passage of preemptive Iran sanctions legislation, timed to sabotage negotiations, have dropped significantly just in the last week. Brother Benen sums it up:

    A week ago, it was practically a foregone conclusion that such a bill would pass the House and Senate; the question is whether President Obama’s veto could be overridden. Just of the last few days, however, the odds of such a bill even reaching the president’s desk have dropped unexpectedly.

  27. SarahG says:

    Starlight, I’m so glad to hear they have backed down. But why? The article makes a few guesses but it’s really not clear. I think something else is up on the foreign front that will require full cooperation of Congress with no distractions. And I’m sensing that the focus will be on North Korea. Just a hunch.

  28. Lorrie U says:

    Maybe this guy carries some weight?

    Robert Gates: Obama ‘Absolutely Right’ To Oppose Congressional Plan For New Iran Sanctions

    “I think the president is absolutely right to oppose Congress in enacting any additional sanctions right now,” he said, speaking to a group of reporters at a Christian Science Monitor breakfast in the St. Regis Hotel in downtown Washington. “As hard it is for everybody to deal with, we may actually be seeing success in the policy.”

    “They are at the table — I think the sanctions policy pursued by these presidents has worked. I think to add sanctions right now really would run a very high risk of blowing it all up.”

  29. Lorrie U says:

    David Wildstein Practically Begs for Immunity So He Can Spill the Beans in Bridgegate

    Wildstein’s lawyer Alan Zegas told The Associated Press on Friday that there has not been any offer of immunity from the U.S. Attorney’s Office, which is reviewing the matter. “If he has immunity from the relevant entities, he’ll talk,” Zegas said.

    Wildstein has already given damning documents to investigating legislative bodies. He seems very eager to save his own skin.

    This is exactly the sort of thing that Chris Christie needed not to happen. But first, Wildstein must be granted immunity and that will only happen if it looks like there is a bigger fish to fry.

  30. SarahG says:

    Our own media is directing our focus to N. Korea. I watched this the other night and though I’m sure it is, for the most part, a truthful glimpse into an oppressive regime I also felt that as a viewer and an American I was being primed through propaganda to solidify a particular viewpoint. It left me feeling apprehensive –

    PBS ‘Frontline’ Looks Inside a Notoriously Closed Country

  31. starlight says:

    Sarah – I think I heard that Obama had a big meeting with all the Democrats a few days ago, possibly about the sanctions issue. That could be why.

    on edit,here it is:

  32. SarahG says:

    Thanks for that article Starlight. I am so glad he is able to pull together party support at least, though the GOP is also being relatively compliant right now too.
    I know some astrology but am not an astrologer and don’t know the first thing about reading charts to form a picture of mundane events. That is your craft and you do it so well. I do take in a lot of information and sometimes I get hunches and feelings. I think N. Korea is one country that Obama can count on being a popular choice of targets and another feather in his cap relative to the whole issue of removing nuclear threats. Negotiations with Iran is a bold foreign policy move and the bookend to that would be to also take on N. Korea (an expansive Jupiter mindset). Our allies…Japan and S. Korea and even India already have quite a challenge with China on their doorstep and N.Korea is a wild card that is destabilizing, distracting and requires resources that might otherwise be directed in protecting their turf with China. Timing — N.K. might be considered vulnerable due to the change in leadership and internal infighting that comes with that kind of change. We’ve seen plenty of evidence for that. I don’t think they/we can rely on an internal N.K. revolution any time soon, although I suppose it is within the realm of possibility since we’ve seen it happen in other countries recently. I don’t know what the game plan is but I do sense that there is one and that it might unfold within the next six months.

  33. Patty says:

    Oh Sarah, Thank you for the Frontline link on NorthKorea! It’s fascinating how the youth, via their new electronics, are not being fooled.
    And you’re so right…this President could very possibly perturb things in a more positive direction there. I’d love to see the Chart for NK and Kim Jong-un.
    And Lorrie…Wow, Koch & Christi in cahoots!

  34. SarahG says:

    Hi Patty. I wasn’t particularly endorsing a move on N. Korea, but was sensing something happening there. I was really just trying to get inside a possible argument for that action were I to see through more hawkish eyes at a bigger picture. I don’t think for one minute that it would simple or even a good thing to do. There are always unpredictable things that can happen, reactions that are unanticipated, and all the complexities of a transition if it would succeed. Anyway, I won’t harp on anymore about this topic because it really is just a hunch.

  35. ArtCulturePeace says:

    Aloha All,
    *Starlight, agree North Korea is a flashpoint and here’s in part why:

    $3T in rare earth resources and a despotic nuclear-minded tyrant leader.

    Warm aloha all…Blessings!

  36. SarahG says:

    ArtCulturePeace, (can I call you ACP?),
    Thanks for posting that article. That really is a game changer!

  37. lisam says:

    This is kind of a strange story concerning a U.S. District Judge, Richard Cebull, accused of sending hundreds of bigoted e-mails, including “a joke about bestiality and Obama’s mother”. How gross.–election.html

  38. Lorrie U says:

    Up With Steve Kornacki tomorrow morning is supposed to have a big revelation re. Christie! Supported by documents…

  39. Lorrie U says:

    Christie scoop tomorrow on Up w/Steve Kornaki: 8 a.m. DVR it!!!!!

    He just announced that a major player will personally disclose her story on his show in the morning.

    They wouldn’t say exactly what it is, but it’s supposed to change the focus of the investigation.


    Today, MSNBC has been buiilding a resume of horrific corruption in the Christie admin.

  40. Lorrie U says:

    Total number of people who have coverage as a direct result of the ACA is 10,000,263

    Private policy holders (many with subsidies): 2,387,970

    Medicaid expansions: 4,480,818

    Children with extended coverage on parents policies: 3,101,000

  41. Lorrie U says:

    The 12 Children of the Light – An Allegory from the Astrologer Martin Shulman

    “Birth is not the beginning, Death is not the end.” ~Chuang – Tsu

    And it was morning as God stood before his 12 Children of the Light and into each of them planted the seed of human life. One by one each child stepped forward to receive their appointed gift…

  42. alex says:


    the Mayan ZERO (symbol) is a seed…. Grain Seed Shell

    my computer settings (don’t know which one) together with wordpress comment box settings only allow two urls to be posted per comment…. that’s why I am continuing to next comment for one more seed image

  43. alex says:

    oops… sorry here is the correct url for the Mayan Zero image

  44. alex says:

    Daryl Issa the richest white guy in Congress…. poll numbers from his district & 2014 challenger opponent

  45. alex says:

    if you get angry/tired of the GOP’s war on women…..

    think about the good Pres. Obama has done:

  46. angellight says:

    Lorrie U: I have yet to read the link, 12 children of light, but I will. Sounds like it could be the 12 planets which the 12 disciples represent. However, there is something very wrong in our society or the Powers that Be in this society, to allow drugs they know are harmful to come on the market.

  47. Gypsi says:

    How about the Jupiter Pluto opposition coming exact very soon? When Pluto contacted my natal Jupiter I got more traffic tickets than in the entire rest of my life, and illegal actions in my neighborhood, gunshots, needles on sidewalks, caused me to start a crime watch putting me in even more contact with the legal system.

    A world wide Jupiter Pluto opposition – Justice for the corporate crooks? One can only hope

  48. alex says:

    jupiter opp pluto: NC ultrasound law struck down, PA voter ID law struck down…… hopefully more of the same!

  49. ANDRE says:

    PBO lost all credibility with the NSA announcement. He has become a tool of the military-industrial establishment denounced by Eisenhower. I believe he will live to regret it. The jury is in: he is now irrevocably a mediocre President.

  50. alex says:


    Re: you posted url-and-info on the Boomerang Aspect aspect awhile back as it applied to your analysis of another chart then;

    Boomerang Aspect is relevant in the following Chris Christie chart analysis;

    Boomerang Aspect: the configuration point (midpoint of sextile at base of Yod, the opposition to Apex of Yod) controls the individual not the other way around

    Christie’s Natal Ceres @09 Leo is the midpoint of sextile at the base of the Yod, the opposition to Apex of Yod 5/27/2011 chart;

    Governor Chris Christis 5/27/2011 Trenton NJ chart: pulls out of Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative that the state of New Jersey via Christie previously joined (after two hour private meeting with Koch in NYC 2011)

    First Impression YOD – Christie announcement NJ pulling out of the regional greenhouse gas initiative

    Synastry Yod (natal & transit planets)

    T/Juno @09 Aquarius rx
    Christie Natal Pluto @10 Virgo (novile degree)
    T/Jupiter @10 Cancer

    Apex Yod T/Juno @09 Aquarius rx
    Christie Natal Ceres @09 Leo (the negative expression of Ceres is retribution, vengence)

  51. SarahG says:

    yria opposition votes to attend Geneva II peace talks
    BBC News

    Syria’s main political opposition group, the Syrian National Coalition (SNC), has agreed to attend next week’s so-called Geneva II peace talks, to be held in Montreux.

    Its representatives took the decision at a meeting in the Turkish city, Istanbul.

    The BBC’s Jim Muir in Beirut says Western powers will be relieved at the vote, although it is less than the display of unanimity the advocates of the talks had hoped for.

    Syrian opposition figures had earlier expressed reluctance to go to Switzerland unless President Assad was excluded from any future transitional government.

    Read more:

  52. alex says:

    discontented never satisfied Gemini: (restless)

    USA Uranus @08 Gemini

    numerology – number eight – relentless pace, relentless need for financial security, relentless psychic drives….

  53. tetramorph says:

    “PBO lost all credibility with the NSA announcement. He has become a tool of the military-industrial establishment denounced by Eisenhower. I believe he will live to regret it. The jury is in: he is now irrevocably a mediocre President.”

    Well, it’s important to realize the military-industrial establishment was, in large part, implemented by Eisenhower — as well as the cold war, strife in central/south America, and the Middle East (esp. Iran). He was just trying to cover his ass after he came to understand his mistakes. His speech hasn’t changed a thing.

    I decided to look at the chart for the first coup Eisenhower, et. al. threw, as I believe it is directly connected to what is going on today:

    Chart for Tehran, Iran CIA Coup
    19 Aug 1953 TZ = -3.0 12.0000 P.M. 53e01 35n07

    HOUSE CUSPS – Placidus
    10TH house = 03 VIR 30m 39s 11TH house = 05 LIB 22m 14s 12TH house = 01 SCO 48m 48s 1ST house = 23 SCO 58m 43s 2ND house = 24 SAG 11m 09s 3RD house = 28 CPR 14m 15s 4TH house = 03 PIS 30m 39s 5TH house = 05 ARI 22m 14s 6TH house = 01 TAU 48m 48s 7TH house = 23 TAU 58m 43s 8TH house = 24 GEM 11m 09s 9TH house = 28 CAN 14m 15s

    26 LEO 04m 36s SUN ( 9TH HOUSE)
    14 SAG 05m 23s MOON ( 1ST HOUSE)
    08 LEO 58m 58s MERCURY ( 9TH HOUSE)
    17 CAN 31m 15s VENUS ( 8TH HOUSE)
    13 LEO 14m 09s MARS ( 9TH HOUSE)
    21 GEM 38m 56s JUPITER ( 7TH HOUSE)
    23 LIB 03m 27s SATURN (11TH HOUSE)
    21 CAN 01m 08s URANUS ( 8TH HOUSE)
    21 LIB 42m 03s NEPTUNE (11TH HOUSE)
    23 LEO 01m 37s PLUTO ( 9TH HOUSE)
    01 AQU 52m 33s N. NODE ( 3RD HOUSE)
    11 PIS 59m 30s P. OF F. ( 4TH HOUSE)
    23 SCO 58m 43s ASC ( 1ST HOUSE)
    03 VIR 30m 39s MC (10TH HOUSE)
    16 CPR 01m 01s CHIRON R ( 2ND HOUSE)

    Out of Bounds Planets – MOON

    Both the Sun and Pluto are in decanate of AMBITION.

    Mercury is in RULERSHIP, Mars is in REFORMATION

    All 4 planets form a loose stellium in the 9th House Leo — Leo is INTERCEPTED.

    Chiron Rx 2nd is tightly opposed Venus in the 8th

    Saturn is conjunct Neptune in the 11th square Uranus in the 8th forming a loose T-square with Chiron and Venus.

    It’s an interesting chart for a major historical event still reverberating today.

  54. will says:


    I am wondering if you are conflating Eisenhower having coined the concept of “The Military Industrial Complex and waring of its danger with him actually having fostered the advance of this dangerous autonomous entity. If anything, Eisenhower and Kennedy were both fiercely opposed to the MIC as it defied governance and the law-of-the-land.

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  56. B.A. says:


    “PBO lost all credibility with the NSA announcement. He has become a tool of the military-industrial establishment denounced by Eisenhower. I believe he will live to regret it. The jury is in: he is now irrevocably a mediocre President.”

    Not just mediocre:

  57. B.A. says:

    Trust in Governments Slides to Record Low Amid U.S. Spy Programs

    Trust in governments fell, making them the world’s least-trusted institutions for a third year, according to a survey published before policy makers and executives gather for the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

    Faith in governments fell to 44 percent from 48 percent in 2013, according to the 2014 Trust Barometer survey published by Edelman, a public-relations firm. Trust in business held steady at about 58 percent, bringing its lead over government to the widest in the 14 years the poll has been taken.

    Governments are struggling to maintain public trust amid the disclosure of U.S. spy programs by former contractor Edward Snowden and record unemployment in Europe. Confidence in government in the U.S. plummeted 16 points to 37 percent, Edelman said.

  58. Patty says:

    B.A. Your two posts sound like GOP righteous indignation. PBO did not create this NSA monster…most if it plus Homeland Security’s inception can be attributed to the Bush/Cheney reign of terror.
    This all fits-in with ‘Big Government is our enemy’ mime we keep hearing from the RightWing Ayn Rand austerity devotees.

    I have a theory, 2016-Election may be a choice between ‘Big Government vs. Big Business Plutocracy’. This is another hack-job on our Government.

    “Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth”.
    -Abraham Lincoln

  59. alex says:

    There’s a lot can be said for the 1/17/2014 Announcement by Pres. Obama regarding NSA reform: Sun conunct Venus (accord, agreements)

    I’m going to give First Impressions from the chart. First of all it was delivered at the Department of Justice 38N53, 77W01… I charted for White House 38N54, 77W02;

    The announcement began at 11:15Am ended 11:57AM

    Other than the blantently obvious of the 10TH House Sun @27 Capricorn conjunct USA (Sibley) Pluto @27 Capricorn (astrologer’s know that US modern government uses astrology just as the founders of America used astrology to time significant events…. but let’s set that aside and look at a few aspects instead;

    Semi-sextile aspect changes house location from begin 11:15Am
    to 11:57AM end of announcement

    Semi-Sextile Kite 11:15AM announcement begins:

    5TH House Moon @13 Leo (APEX lift, kite nose)
    4TH House Jupiter @13 Cancer ( USA Sibley SUN @13 Cancer)
    6TH House Pallas @13 Virgo


    Midpoint 11TH House Mercury/Astraea @12 Aquarius
    Mercury (covenants, contracts)


    Astraea, lady of right judgment and integration
    Wherever Astraea goes, you are urged to get organized and get your act together – and become the best you can be!

    Astraea was a classical goddess of justice, whose symbol was the balanced scales. She presided over the moral sense of rightness and good order, and the poetic tradition relates that she was the last of the divinities to leave the world at the end of the Golden Age.

    Astraea was then translated into the heavens as the constellation Virgo. These elements of myth give you clues to the meaning of the asteroid Astraea in the horoscope. She is concerned with the integration and organization of things, bringing sometimes disparate elements together and finding the common links that join them up in the web of life.

    She helps you to focus on detail and understand the meaning of the fine print. She helps you to work both hard and well, and helps you to become more ordered and tidy in at least some aspects of your life.

    Astraea can also help you to become quite high minded, whilst integrating into this spacious vision an ability to zero in and see all the small things that go together to make up the greater whole.

    She can stir up a compulsive quality, too, and stimulate an obsessive streak. This can cause a kind of splitting, which is another aspect of Astraea energy: the goddess who brings things together can also tear them apart. She does all this, ultimately, in the service of wholeness, and reveals those things it is time to clean up and get rid of, so that everything else can evolve into a more perfect form.

    Semi-Sextile Kite 11:57AM announcement ends:

    4TH House Moon @13 Leo (APEX lift, kite nose)
    3TH House Jupiter @13 Cancer ( USA Sibley SUN @13 Cancer)
    5TH House Pallas @13 Virgo


    Midpoint 10TH House Mercury/Astraea @12 Aquarius
    Mercury (covenants, contracts)


    12TH House Iris @24 Pisces
    4TH House DK Lilith @24 Cancer ( (USA Sibley MERCURY @24 Cancer, freedom of speech, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness)
    7TH House Saturn @21 Scorpio


    Iris, lady of the intuitive mind and illumination

    In Greek myth, there were two divine messengers: Hermes (equivalent to the Roman god Mercury), and Iris. Some traditions suggest that Iris was the messenger of the goddess Hera (whose Roman equivalent was Juno), whilst Mercury served Jupiter. However you play with the myths, there was a feminine energy associated with communication as well as a masculine one. And modern neuroscience tells us there are masculine and feminine aspects to the brain, too.

    Few astrologers have learned yet how to honor the great goddess whose archetype stands behind the ‘feminine’ brain and style of communication. That is why this asteroid report is named in honor of Iris! The symbol of Iris was the rainbow, and the Iris energies of the horoscope seem to encompass all the colors of the spectrum, all kinds of light: ultimately, the light of pure consciousness.

    Mercury shows how you think and communicate in a more systems oriented, data gathering and sorting way. His energy is yang and outward directed. Iris, however, has yin energy and is receptive. She shows how you receive ideas, how you listen, how you intuit and empathize, and how you deal holistically with all the information thrown at you by living in the world.

    Iris helps you to understand things at a deep level, and to grow in wisdom. She adds color and depth to the Mercury energies of the chart, and shows another avenue of expression. She helps you to meditate. At her very best, Iris helps you to find true illumination. There is a vastness and sublime beauty to Iris energy. Wherever she sits in your horoscope can be magical, as she helps your consciousness to expand and evolve.


    1/17/2014 Department of Justice
    11:15 AM Begins

    The President on Review of Signals Intelligence


    Having faced down the dangers of totalitarianism and fascism and communism, the world expects us to stand up for the principle that every person has the right to think and write and form relationships freely — because individual freedom is the wellspring of human progress.

  60. Helen says:

    Patty, please don’t ignore the fact that many liberal/progessives are currently disenchanted with the Obama adminstration and Democratic party. When big issues like approving the NDAA, where now as an American citizen you can be disappeared without any knowledge how long your sentence is and where you are ‘until hostilities cease’, this is of the gravest concern.. Recently an updated version of the NDAA was passed where now you have no right to a lawyer. This was signed by the president into law. Of course you didn’t hear this in the major media, but you can check the congressional records.

    You said Obama didn’t create the NSA monster. Should we cut him slack with the above NDAA, the drone program, Guantanamo, fast-tracking TPP? Using the ‘Republican pressure’ excuse just doesn’t cut it anymore especially with many notable progressive voice are calling attention to the fact that the Dems and this admistration seem at least as beholden to corporate money and business as usual as the Republicans have historically been. Chris Hedges is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and a good way to start as an introduction on how the progressive wing of the party has been sidelined.

    Even the mainstream media has featured stories on how this admistration has tracked whistleblowers more than any other – far from the transparency that was promised. Yes, B.A. and I are disillusioned,but glad you’re able keep the faith, You’re right about one thing: on the surface, you can’t tell the difference between us and “GOP righteous indignation”.

  61. alex says:


    On Thursday President Obama signed into law the 2014 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), a sweeping defense policy bill, which includes some improvements in terms of civil liberties and human rights on its previous two iterations.

    As a notable improvement, NDAA 2014 includes a provision that Obama called a “welcome step” toward fulfilling his longtime promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison camp. The bill relaxes regulations that have held up the transfer of detainees out of the detention center.

    The defense act also includes provisions aimed at intervening in the epidemic of sexual assault in the U.S. military. But, as the Washington Post noted, “it stops short of the broad reforms that Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and other advocates have been calling for.”

  62. Helen says:

    Comes down to, which media do you trust?

    Here’s Democracy Now:

    Reminds me of the ‘food safety’ acts that were passed in Congress during the last few years. Deceptive to the extreme: farmers with 50 cows or less obliged to fill out reams of adminstrative paperwork while the CAFOs continue with minimal regulation.

    And Monsanto? Continues unabaited. The National Grocer’s Association is behind the push to outlaw GMO labeling on a national level. No doubt this story will be spun somewhere into a positive ‘food safetly’ development:

    I’m reading between the lines now.

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  64. tetramorph says:

    Will, you need to read “The Brothers.” My image of Eisenhower has completely changed. His hubris, greed, and predilection for American Exceptionalism are the cause of a tremendous amount of the geopolitical strife we’ve had for the last 60+ years. Eisenhower absolutely allowed the CIA to do whatever it wanted with no oversight. The CIA and the MIC go hand-in-hand. He realized his mistake, but no amount of “sorry” or warnings have undone his damage.

  65. will says:


    I don’t think one book or author can define a presidency one way or another. Eisenhower made mistakes but also ended the Korean War and brought 8 years of relative peace. Unfortunately he made the mistake of trusting in Dulles as Secretary of Defense – and Dulles and his brother wreaked havoc with international policies. If anything, Eisenhower was naive and overly-trusting.

  66. Lorrie U says:

    Patty – “2016-Election may be a choice between ‘Big Government vs. Big Business Plutocracy’.” I think you’re right about that, that seems to be the choice we’re faced with.

    And, just imagine the horrendous beating of breasts and laments of anguish and ire towards our president if there is/were another terrorist attack on our soil!!! Then we’d all be bashing him for not having enough intelligence. And God forbid if he cut it way back and something happened, they’d lynch him.

    I think he’s taken the first step towards some oversight without throwing the baby out with the bath water. Baby steps, people…

  67. kiwi says:

    Well said Lorrie

  68. ArtCulturePeace says:

    Aloha All,

    Today the nation celebrates the life, courage, integrity & beauty of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

    *SarahG…yes, ACP is OK :-). Glad the link was of interest to you!

    Blessings all. E Ho’omaluhia me ka Honua.

  69. Sharon Katz says:

    Amen, Lorrie…those are my sentiments exactly

  70. Sharon Katz says:

    And amen to ACP…Dr. King made an immense contribution to life on this planet, at a soul, heart & spirit level as well as a material one.

  71. barbk says:


    Thanks for the info on Christie’s yod/boomerang and the role Ceres plays in it, fascinating. I’m intrigued by the chart for the Port Authority for NJ/NY as was disclosed on Steve Kornacki’s show UP last Saturday. The mayor of Hoboken said the Christie camp withheld Sandy funds unless(until) she approved the Port Authority’s choice of sites to be developed in her city.

    There are a lot of players in this story but I think it was Sampson at the Port Authority who was pushing the particular properties owned by a company he represented (to the exclusion of several other equally needy properties) for development. Those were the only properties that the Port Authority would cough up funds for.

    That entity, the Port Authority, carries a lot of clout in that region (they own the land where the Twin Towers used to be) and I got the birth date – April 30, 1921, and the chart holds some interesting aspects. The Taurus Sun squares the Leo Neptune and the Virgo Jupiter opposes the Pisces Uranus among them. But it was the natal Nemesis at 11 Capricorn 43 that transiting Pluto is now conjunct that convinced me there was skullduggery involved.

    The way I understand the implications is that Sampson (or whoever it was that works for the Port Authority AND represents the Rockefeller group) was putting pressure on Christie to get Mayor Zimmer of Hoboken to approve his client’s property for development over any other choices. Christie’s Lt. Gov. supposedly put the pressure on Mayor Zimmer and Mayor Zimmer exposed this on Saturday’s UP program.

    If you get a chance to look at the chart aspects let me know what you think.

  72. Sharon Katz says:

    Kind of like an action-thriller film, but it’s real..I hope and pray that everyone who attends the Olympics remain out of harm’s way and safe from these fanatics.

  73. alex says:


    – great find Port Authority Chart… I draw it and look;


    U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis—“We may have democracy, or we may have wealth concentrated in the hands of the few, but we cannot have both”

    In the U.S., 95 percent of post-financial crash wealth generated (i.e., since 2009) went into the bank accounts of the richest 1 percent.

    The World’s 85 Richest Now Worth as Much as 3.5 Billion Poorest

    Bloomberg bussiness week

  74. alex says:


    Lots more needs done on this: having said that
    First Impressions:

    Sandy Funds – Mayor Hoboken – Gov Chris Christie (Investigation – Malfeasance in office)

    Investigations 3RD House Natural Zodiac Gemini Issues (don’t have time for Port Authority chart eventually will have to reference natal charts with birthtimes later)

    This is a complex issue: after first impression have to think about it awhile:

    Notation of some Fixed stars in 1921 New York Sicty Headquarters Chart for Port Authority:

    Going to be activated on or before 3/3/2014 T/Juno @00 Aries
    PAuthority Eris @29 Pisces – Scheat @29 Pisces (fixed star that was prominent in 9/11 NYC chart)
    PAuthority Mars @26 Taurus – Algol @26 Taurus
    PAuthority Pallas @05 Gemini – Spectrum @05 Gemini


    Jupiter @09 Virgo
    Uranus @08 Pisces ( USA Sibley Ceres @08 Pisces)
    square Pallas @05 Gemini

    When the degrees 5-8 Sagittarius are assigned they will form mutable grand cross with the T-Square

    POINT OF FOCUS : T- Square
    Ceres @12 Cancer
    Transiting Pluto @11 Capricorn –
    PAuthority Nemesis @11 CP
    Vesta @11 Aries
    Chiron @11 Aries

    when the degrees 11-12 Libra are assigned they will form Cardinal Grand Cross with the T-Square

    Port Authority Proserpina @29 Gemini
    This is complex analysis:

    PAuthority Eris @29 Aries

    which will be activated in late Feb – early March
    Transiting Juno @00 Aries ( Novile degree, the future, what will become)

    here is Iris report info about Proserpina ( useful but not on-point)

    what is on-point is mundane political issues Prosperpina (seed money)

    At the moment I’m looking at 1921 Proserpina PA essentially seed money issues (cash flow money) and the natal squaresoon to be activated is ERIS @29 Pisces….

    One among various – Point(s) of Focus
    ERIS29PI – Transiting Juno @00Aries

    Background: (natal orientation)
    Proserpina, lady of transitions, other-worldly realms, and sacrifice

    The asteroid Proserpina is named in honor of the goddess of the dead, consort of Pluto, she who was known as Persephone to the Greeks. As a goddess archetype, Proserpina constellates an energy that is often hard to fathom at first, because in the poetic myths Proserpina/Persephone seems to have little personality of her own. As the innocent maiden, abducted by Pluto/Hades into the underworld, she was scarcely distinguishable from her fertility goddess mother Ceres/Demeter. As Pluto’s wife and queen of the underworld, though, she receives the souls of the dead and as such, is also a guide to other realms and levels of being, and the deepest places of the psyche. The asteroid Proserpina seems to manifest as an energy of innocence and ignorance that learns a very great deal by (often hard) experience. She shows where you tend to take the line of least resistance, to be passive or helpless, and teaches you the consequences of such unaware or unassertive responses. She points to what you learn through the various transitions of life, which may or may not be painful, but which always entail a letting go of what has ceased to be viable, and carry therefore some sense of sacrifice. She shows you altered states of being, can help you to open up to all the stimuli of life, assists you to adapt and change in response to your environment, and even helps you to cultivate psychic perception.

    Proserpina is a tricky energy to deal with, though, because she is so hard to know in essence. You need to be still, and quietly open, to access Proserpina and work with her successfully. Ignore her altogether and you may find yourself plunging into situations you never expected or wanted; honor her and she will help you to find a way through the dark, a guide for your soul who aids your inner journey and ultimately, as a result, your path to individuation in the outer world.

  75. Eliseo says:

    To All,
    A manifestation of the Uranus/Pluto square? I am very puzzled about something astrologically and hoping perhaps some of you might have some insight into this problem.

    A peculiar kind of rebellion is going on with a goodly number of our university students that I think connected to the Uranus/Pluto square, but I’m not certain precisely how. (Don’t misunderstand. The majority of our students are not doing this, but we are having a problem with a significant minority.)

    I teach at a middle sized university in SE Texas. At my university, as well as at a number of others through the state, instructors and professors are experiencing a paperwork nightmare, something that has never happened before.

    Firstly, we are hearing complaints from colleagues where we teach as well as from friends who teach at other universities that last Fall’s class of entering Freshmen were the rudest, most arrogant and least well prepared they’ve ever encountered, (and that’s phrasing it kindly.)

    Secondly, quite a number of these students at the end of the semester are now contesting their final grades. This is not a matter of asking the professor what “I did wrong that I might improve the quality of my next paper.” No, this is more in the indignant category of “How dare YOU give ME such a poor grade!” In 99.99% of cases the student has no case as they either had poor test scores, and/or poor attendance, and/or homework not turned in, and/or papers not written, or written but turned in very late, and/or not according to instructions, etc.

    In shock over not being automatically passed through and receiving a failing or near failing grade, these poorly performing students are creating a paperwork nightmare. Regardless of lack of merit, by the rules, each complaint has to be answered fully, and we are getting so many of them!

    In my understanding of astrological symbolism, Uranus represents rebellion, but I don’t see Pluto, or Pluto in Capricorn as representing the educational establishment, or normal academic standards.

    Is there something I’m missing here? Are there any other transits which reflect this peculiar development?

    Also, a local army recruiter a few days ago told me they are having similar problems with their newest recruits.

  76. alex says:


    should read sextile – 29 aries to 29 gemini

  77. SarahG says:

    Just watched Charlie Rose who was interviewing the author of an article about Obama in the New Yorker. The interview is really interesting and the article is supposed to be very insightful (haven’t yet read it)-

  78. alex says:


    The world’s richest 85 people control the same amount of wealth as the total held by half the world’s population, according to a report issued today by the British-based anti-poverty charity Oxfam.

    The means the world’s poorest 3,550,000,000 (3.55 billion) people must live on what the richest 85 possess. Another way to look at it: Each of the wealthiest 85 Earthlings has access to the resources available to about 42 million of the world’s poor, a population equal to the total number of people living in Canada, with those all those from Kentucky and Kansas tossed in.

    Announcing the study, Oxfam’s website noted that it isn’t a simple notion of Social Darwinism. The game is rigged for the rich, and against the poor.

    “Wealthy elites have co-opted political power to rig the rules of the economic game, undermining democracy and creating a world where the 85 richest people own the wealth of half of the world’s population.”

    And the report makes clear that the trend is seeing a rapidly increasing division of global wealth.

    The report says 210 people joined the very small ranks of billionaires last year (the report said the total number of about 1,400 worldwide).

    U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis—“We may have democracy, or we may have wealth concentrated in the hands of the few, but we cannot have both”

  79. TJ says:

    Eliseo, very interesting. I’m retired, but one of my former colleagues teaching undergraduates at a midwestern college recently said almost the same thing. An unusually high number of students asking for unwarranted grade changes, and becoming indignant and demanding if the professor didn’t acquiesce. Lay question here: could it be from aspects at birth for this particular age group? Current college freshman would’ve been born in 1994-1995.

  80. alex says:


    Port Authority Chart continued: NEMESIS


    PA Ceres @12 Cancer
    PA Nemesis @11 Capricorn
    TRANSITING PLUTO @11 Capricorn (corruption of government)

    PA Vesta @11 Aries
    PA Chiron @11 Aries

    Mayor Dawn Zimmer – Hoboken

    Dawn Zimmer Natal Sun @26 Aries
    Dawn Zimmer Natal Nemesis @26 Aries
    Port Authority Venus @27 Aries

    Nemesis (divine retribution, being undone)

    Shadow attraction: (shadow person/or/event)

    Nemesis’ House and sign placement indicates the kind of personality/behavior traits of other (and/or objective event) which/who have the potential to exact divine retribution.

    When government/Saturn corruption/Pluto is accepted, divine retribution is attracted/Nemesis.

    Port Authority Nemesis @11 Capricorn
    Transiting Pluto @11 Capricorn

  81. alex says:


    should read

    PA Ceres @12 Cancer
    PA Nemesis @11 Capricorn
    TRANSITING PLUTO @11 Capricorn (corruption of government)
    PA Vesta @11 Aries
    PA Chiron @11 Aries

  82. Helen says:

    TJ: I know someone working at a large investment company that has interns from universities working at their offices. He said there was a new question on the questionaire the university has the company fill out about the student’s performance: “Does this person’s behavior show a sense of entitlement?”

    This is from a conversation I had two years ago.

  83. barbk says:

    Nice work alex! First, the T-square. . .the Port Authority conjunction of Vesta and Chiron also includes natal Nessus the Centaur at 11+ Aries. Nessus, like other centaurs, raises awareness of what needs to be transformed and can manifest as toxic material, poisons, etc. Also trickery and lust are his hallmarks. When transiting Mars returns to 11-12 Libra (April 25-May 2 in retrograde, and direct June 7-15) this issue will be forced into the open.

    I’m delighted that you found Dawn Zimmer’s birth time and can’t wait to see it myself. Her natal Sun (+ Nemesis!) conjunct the Port Authority’s Venus in Aries would have been affected by the lunar eclipse in October at 25 Aries 45!!! That was a few weeks before Christie’s landslide election and I remember that chart had Venus conjunct the U.S. chart’s ascendant (12+ Sagittarius). Back to the drawing board, and again, many thanks.

  84. barbk says:

    alex, Zimmer Eris (discord) conjunct Port Authority Chiron-Vesta-Nessus, all at 11+ Aries, where tr. Uranus is in March. Much more!

  85. alex says:

    quick note

    sorry no I didn’t find her birth time, nor place of birth… she moved to Hoboken in 2002; I delineated a noon chart relocated her to Hoboken;

    Transiting Mars Rx and direct to PAuthority Cardinal T-Square
    form the Cardinal Grand Cross (world stage) yeah this thing is getting worked out at the speed of government.

    Dawn Zimmer has great reputation for integrity…. the talking GOP heads on TV defending Christie are making stuff up about her and demeaning her trying to lessen her impact;

    She lost to the previous Mayor who was convicted of corruption and then she rose to Mayor of Hoboken…. she is a focal point for ‘public interest against government corruption’ Sun,conjunct,Nemesis;

    thanks for the Nessus notation : Nessus can be/usually is generational pattern of abuse, or bad conditions…. as someone on MSNBC pointed out Port Authority has been doing business for a long time and that malfesance has tainted them more than once;

  86. Camille says:

    Carl Beaudreau’s February astro-report: Grassroots Desire for Change Intensify’s.

    Plus on this site: Report of China purchasing the Federal Reserve–that the US defaulted in October, 2013! China recently purchased JP Morgan building in NYC…per bloomberg report mentioned in article.

  87. fierywoman says:

    Eliseo, I know of a young woman — in the last 10-15 years? — who was going for a Masters or Doctorate in Violin Performance at the University of Washington, who played for her jury and the jury said she wasn’t of UW level to be given the degree and she answered by saying if you don’t give me the degree, I’ll sue you. They gave her the degree.
    I’m noticing in my private (violin, viola) teaching that the kids who are supposedly the cleverest sometimes give REALLY bogus, b.s. answers — kinda like you ask them what color the apple is and they look you straight in the eye and say: 3 miles.

  88. Eliseo says:

    TJ & Fierywoman,
    Surely there must be something in those 1994-1995 era birth charts, but I won’t have time to look into it very deeply until the end of this ongoing spring semester. My old astrology program is in an inaccessible computer right now, but I intend on buying a new program at the end of this semester.

    The main astrological event I recall from the early 90’s was the 1992 Uranus/Neptune conjunction. But I don’t yet connect it with these new attitudes. Perhaps I am wrong.

    The anecdotal reports are pretty consistent and are increasing. We’re seeing an amazingly obtuse group of students entering college accompanied by a very sharp rise in plagiarism. Their social skills are more what you would expect out of 12-14 year olds, not 18-20 year olds.

    Many instructors, including myself have had to demand that students not only turn off their cell phones and other devices at the beginning of class, but to place them in a basket on my desk until class is over. Otherwise they continue texting and looking up answers to test questions on their phones! Last semester I had to ask a student to leave because she insisted on conversing on her phone while I was lecturing! I’m hearing similar stories from many other profs.

    Some speculate we are dealing with students who have spent way too much time playing video games and doing things online rather than face to face play and socializing. My nephew’s wife, an elementary teacher, suggests these students are the first group to be deeply damaged by No Child Left Behind, a policy that has diminished the quality of teaching and left even more behind than in recent memory.

  89. Gypsi says:

    I found Dawn Zimmer believable, 100%.

    And phone surveys on the Texas governor’s race have begun

  90. starlight says:

    Eliseo – These are the kids who have grown up learning to relate to one another online rather than in person. Online contacts can be more insulting and less empathic because they are not face to face and are often anonymous. They grew up during the rise of the Tea party and the hyperbolic, less reality-based polarized politics. They grew up when Dimwit was president, lowering the standards of intelligence everywhere.

    Perhaps the biggest issue is the as-yet-to-be-determined nefarious impact of so much technology. My 23-year-old son says no one knows how to be alone. People are always posing – on Facebook, on twitter, etc. – to show how great they are doing. They are always in a pseudo contact and always on stage, so to speak. It seems a very skewed way to grow up.

  91. will says:


    You posted:

    “They grew up when Dimwit was president, lowering the standards of intelligence everywhere.

    Perhaps the biggest issue is the as-yet-to-be-determined nefarious impact of so much technology. My 23-year-old son says no one knows how to be alone. People are always posing – on Facebook, on twitter, etc. – to show how great they are doing. They are always in a pseudo contact and always on stage, so to speak. It seems a very skewed way to grow up.”

    Bull’s eye! I would add that during “Dimwit’s” reign, the national zeitgeist was driven by a pervasive level of corruption, unearned entitlement, bullying and greed. It shouldn’t be too much of a surprise that we have engendered an entire generation of scorching little assholes.

  92. Lorrie U says:

    Starlight – Sounds like a plausible explanation for the disengaging youth! “They grew up when Dimwit was president, lowering the standards of intelligence everywhere.” LOVE IT!

  93. kiwi says:

    Regarding kids attitudes – this has nothing to do with the astrological factor, but on a societal level, I just read a great letter to the editor in our local paper and thought you may be interested. Perhaps for the kids of privilege this plays into their attitudes – the texas cheerleader murder comes to mind.

    Here are excerpts from the letter – sorry for the length but it is not available online

    “While we all want our children to succeed, we also need to let our kids experience failure. As hard as it may be, kids need to learn how to cope with disappointment, setbacks and failure, to be resilient. This isn’t about encouraging failure but teaching kids how to bounce back when things go wrong – and the younger the better.
    Today, there’s a whole new language to describe over-protected, molly-coddled, cotton wool kids and their parents.
    Are you a ‘helicopter’ parent hovering over your child then swooping in to intervene at the first sign of trouble? Or a ‘lawnmower’ parent smoothing over every possible situation that could cause your child stress or discomfort? Have you come across a ‘tea cup’ child who is so overprotected and emotionally fragile that they will crack at the first obstacle?
    A recent story on overprotected kids in the Huffington Post referred to an Australian study that found a staggering 90 percent of school counsellors and child psychologists had seen incidents of over parenting. It made me wonder how we’d compare here in New Zealand. Would we be the same? Better? Or even worse?
    Resilience is so important in all aspects of modern life, from dealing with text bullying to managing at university or in the workplace. But we all know how hard it is to sit back and watch your child fail. Instead, we need to teach our children how to assess risk and work out some harm minimization strategies.
    There’s a growing international school of thought that believes failure is good for your collective mental health. In the US and UK there is an increasing call for children to be encouraged to experience failure and learn how to deal with it.
    Teachers, parents, and academics are starting to explore ways for children and young people to take risks, to understand failure, learn judgment, and the importance of perseverance in success.
    One innovative example is Wimbledon Girls High School, a top London school which has introduced Failure Week. They were concerned that some students were over reacting to failure, instead of seeing it as a key component of future success.
    They portray failure as acceptable and a normal part of life by discussing how the students felt about failure, using famous people who had overcome failure, and other activities including asking parents and tutors to share tales of their own fails.
    Closer to home a Wellington principal made it clear that he would not accept the tide of notes from parents trying to excuse their primary-aged boys from the annual cross country. Instead, at the end of the day, he told the boys that for some, this was their favourite day of the school year when they would shine. For many, this was the day they’d dread most. He told the boys that this is how life is – there will be days or weeks when it’s not your day and you will struggle, but then you will get through it
    I think we should tell our young people the Bill Gates first business failed, Stephen King’s first novel was rejected 30 times, Thomas Edison failed 1000 times before creating the light bulb, Vincent Van Gogh only sold one painting in his lifetime, Jay-Z couldn’t get signed to any record labels, and Sichiro Honda started out making scooters while he was unemployed after being turned down for a job by Toyota.
    How many of our kids would cope with such setbacks?
    As a country we also need to be more accepting of failure. It’s the other side of the innovation coin – not only trying new things but not being afraid to say when something isn’t working……”

  94. Lorrie U says:

    Adding to Will’s “I would add that during “Dimwit’s” reign, the national zeitgeist was driven by a pervasive level of corruption, unearned entitlement, bullying and greed” – let’s not forget the incredible disregard for the lives of our youth wasted away in a foreign country or forgotten when they returned. No wonder they don’t give a crap about the rest of us!

  95. Lorrie U says:

    Kiwi – Some good points. I think that children today suffer from lack of constructive parental oversight rather than too much. But it is true that parents can go ballistic if there is even a hint of disapproval towards their child’s behavior and they go on the attack to defend the most outrageous behavior with their own outrageous behavior. Respect for others no longer exists for the most part.

  96. will says:


    Terrific treatise on the subject du jour. Really well-phrased. I’ll be passing it along to the parents of my 17 nieces and nephews, all spawned during the time of Satan.

  97. Sharon K says:

    These comments about our college youth (epitomized by Eliseo’s comment, “…last Fall’s class of entering Freshmen were the rudest, most arrogant and least well prepared they’ve ever encountered, [and that’s phrasing it kindly.]”) makes me SO sad. It epitomizes a lot about our society, including why people are getting killed so easily. It’s ironic that the right-wing, moral majority Conservatives, who complain about Liberal morals, are so quick to justify their rights to carry a gun, no matter the risks, and one reads about shootings daily, shootings that should never have happened and never would have happened maybe 10-20 years ago! There is a DEFINITE decline in civility and it hurts!!! As far as our poor, lost youth, who are evidently not being taught civility (empathy, manners, courtesy, thoughtfulness) – which doesn’t mean they are totally bereft of these qualities – they are just reflecting society as well as technology. Maybe this is the cost of the breaking up of the older social norms into a much freer, more individualistic society, but that doesn’t mean that morals and values should not be emphasized. My step-son teaches continuing education at a large college program, and there are some degree-seeking options for those who could not get in to the regular college program, and he is aghast at the lack of preparatory education and dedication to quality work that he finds, yet he perseveres. This week he is going to devote most of the class to showing them how to write a paper. He has told some students to get tutored in English. In my grad program, many of the students are a bit older, in their mid-to-late 20s and early 30s. Plagiarism is a big deal and is not tolerated. We are also given workshops on what constitutes plagiarism. We are watched like hawks in regard to cheating. The teachers are doing the right thing. They give options for extra credit to those who are struggling. The students are all very civil and polite, and hard working, but, again, students are a little older, this is the South, where people are taught to say M’am, and I’m in the social work program where values are emphasized on a daily basis.

  98. Camille says:

    January 30/31, 2014 *Begins Auspicious Chinese Astrological Year of Green Wood Yang Horse*!

  99. SarahG says:

    Lorrie…yet another rising star of the Republican Party becomes just a stardust memory. I think they also ought to go after the CEO of the pharmaceutical company that showered him with gi…bribes.
    This is how a corrupt system works and it always takes two to tango.

  100. pisca says:

    Those born 1994-1995 have a Neptune-Uranus Capricorn conjunction in their natal charts! Transit Pluto is conjunct and transit Uranus is square that natal conjunction.
    Natal Pluto in late degrees Scorpio squares natal Saturn in Aquarius. Transit Saturn is hitting their natal Pluto.
    What a heavy 2nd Saturn square!!!

  101. SarahG says:

    Starlight – re: long term affects of ‘facebook babies’. I’ve wondered if the pace and deluge of information and communications might be one of the causes for an epidemic of attention deficit disorders (ADD, etc.) too. How can anyone focus or learn patience with so much input and few filters? Of course the facebook behavior you describe is quite evident among adult users too! My family asked me participate in facebook, and while it’s a nice bulletin board to keep in touch, it’s hardly an intimate or meaningful type of contact. Practice in meditation or anything that quiets the mind should be essential as a counter balance to maintain some semblance of sanity and groundedness.
    It’s simply too much and too fast and I can’t imagine what our species will become in its attempts to adapt.

  102. SarahG says:

    Transiting Pluto conjunct Ascendant – I won’t experience this transit in my lifetime but two friends of mine have both lost their significant other during that transit. I know that’s not a given result of that transit, but probably not all that uncommon either.

  103. Lorrie U says:

    SarahG – I have experienced the Pluto conj. Asc. transit, followed by an opposition to 7th hs. Uranus. I’m assuming your friends lost their significant others through death? It is one of the most challenging transits to survive, but the rewards are enormous once you do. Pluto in the 1st house transforms you and you know yourself truly for the first time. Hopefully your friends will discover their new, true selves and be happy with them.

  104. SarahG says:

    Pisca, I have a niece born in ’93 and her natal Uranus/Neptune is about 21 degrees Cap, so transiting Pluto has a little ways to go before that big conjunction, but it out to be a doozy. And her transiting Saturn is currently sextiling that natal conjunction in Cap and that seems to have been really constructive regarding her studies. Saturn won’t square her natal Saturn (at 29 degrees Aquarius) just yet, but that also ought to be a doozy.
    All in all she’s already had a very rough few years and it doesn’t seem to be letting up anytime soon but I’m so pleased with how she’s handling the inner and outer struggles. Not pretty to watch sometimes but she’s maturing big time.

  105. SarahG says:

    Lorrie, thanks for that input. Did you lose someone also? I’m guessing another side of that is confronting one’s own mortality in some way…through illness or similar experience. I do think it’s essential to lose oneself before gaining oneself, and sometimes we lose the part of us that has become identified with another. Yes, both friends lost their partners through death. But there’s also another kind of death experienced in that ‘losing oneself to find oneself’, usually followed by a rebirth which they also experienced (for one friend it happened in young adulthood and the other in later life). I’m so glad to hear your transit was such a transformative gift ultimately though I’ve no doubt it was very difficult.

  106. Lorrie U says:

    SarahG – I did lose a significant other, but not through death. That transit challenges all of one’s relationships, and only the healthy ones are left standing. I have an abundance of Virgo with Scorpio rising and Venus/Neptune conj. I was the traditional doormat and my rose-colored glasses could see no wrong. That all changed. Painful, very! But empowering beyond measure. You said it well, “losing oneself to find oneself.”

  107. Lorrie U says:

    The kids born in ’94-’95 had Pluto in Scorpio in the late degrees. I imagine they will have a great deal of death/rebirth lessons in their lifetimes which may be painful, but ultimately they may be the ones who save the rest of us.

  108. alex says:

    I made fundamental typo(s) in comments about port authority

    Port Authority Eris is at @29 Pisces therefore the transiting Juno in March ingress to Aries Zero degree with activate it AND (typed in one of the comments it was 29ARIES which is incorrect of course)

    29 Pisces

    is therefore square aspect

    to Port Authority Proserpina @29 Gemini (seed money, cash flow money)

    I’m going to blame this on my vision/eyesight problems but I do apologize for the typos; I dislike editing it’s frustrating because I always miss something ANYWAY since I have small blindspot in one eye and cataracts in both; the glare of the screen also adds to the problem

    in any case ….. your Port Authority great chart find is the Radix for this New Jersey mess… Christie and the rest are all players on the world stage … and the script is about government corruption…. tale of woe for the ages;

  109. SarahG says:

    Lorrie, I agree that group has some heavy things to carry in this lifetime but the truth is that we all die and are reborn throughout our lives like a snake shedding its skin. It’s the part of everyone’s spiritual journey, and we need to keep shedding those skins to down to our core. Some may have more shedding to do than others but the hard aspects actually assist that process. An astrologer once corrected me when I bemoaned my relatively ‘difficult’ chart compared to that of a friend who had all these trines and just one tough aspect in her natal chart. She told me that hard aspects are catalysts for significant change and that while it signified challenges ahead, I had much to gain and could use those energies like throwing logs on the fire of transformation. “Death” is never fun, but I’ve grown accustomed to its face.

  110. Lorrie U says:

    A bright spot re. today’s youth in the Pluto in Sag. generation, we see so many youngsters having birthday parties with donations to our shelter animals rather than personal gifts. As well as school children and scout groups. As a P.S., we had our free adoption weekend and adopted 106 shelter dogs and cats in three days!

  111. Lorrie U says:

    SarahG – I so agree with everything you’ve said! And I’m the one with the easy chart with the grand trine and only two difficult aspects. When an astrologer told me that I had one of the easist charts she’d ever seen, I laughed and said “then God help the rest of the world!” I came to realize over time that what it meant was that my challenges were more from outer forces rather than from within, which did assist in overcoming the difficult times. I would imagine it’s more difficult for those with inner conflicts.

    And as you mentioned above, I can’t imagine that the CEO of the pharma company who “shared” with the Gov. and his wife will get off scott free. Isn’t it also a crime to bribe a public official?

    Will be interesting to see the outcome of the NJ/Christie situation!

  112. alex says:


    animals don’t manipulate people with subliminal suggests or with neuro-linguistic language ;-) various good points about critter/creatures

  113. Eliseo says:

    TJ, Helen, fierywoman, Starlight, Will, Lorrie U, Kiwi, Sharon K, pisca, SarahG,

    RE: 1994-1995 birth generation

    Thank You All for your insights!

  114. barbk says:

    No problem alex, I make at least one type every time I comment.

    To muddy the waters (or not) I just added in asteroid Persephone (399) to the Port Authority chart along with your Proserpina (26), since Persephone is on the default list at Serennu. I also added Demeter (1108) to the already included Ceres (1) because I was curious.

    Persephone is conjunct Ceres, both at 12+ Cancer. Demeter is at 8+ Libra, opposite where transiting Uranus was when it stationed direct mid December. Demeter also squares Pluto in Cancer in the Port Authority chart.

    Demeter (8+ Libra) is also quincunx Uranus (8+ Pisces) in the PA chart and as you noted, the U.S. natal Ceres. Trans. Neptune stops short of a conjunction to the PA Uranus (and U.S. Ceres), stationing retrograde at 7+ Pisces in June 2014. However, in April 2014 there is a solar eclipse at 8+ Taurus that is conjunct the PA Sun (9+ Taurus) and that eclipse sextiles the PA Uranus and will quincunx the PA Demeter providing a temporary yod with natal Demeter at the apex. You need to be writing this down. :)

    I believe the temporary yod (thank you Taurus solar eclipse), with natal Libra Demeter at the apex, energizes the point where Uranus stationed direct in Aries (opposite Demeter) in December and points to something that happened in December 2013 (regarding the NJ-NY Port Authority), possibly regarding the NJ governor.

    Leaping ahead, in March 2015, transiting Mercury will reach the 8+ degree of Pisces (where the PA Uranus is) at the same time the final (7th) square between trans. Uranus and Pluto takes place and also when a total solar eclipse takes place at 29+ Pisces. Yep, conjunct the Port Authority Eris. The solar eclipse happens only hours before the Spring Equinox, and when the north node will be at 9+ Libra. The NN will not reach 8+ Libra (conjunct the PA Demeter) until May 2015 when Mercury stations retrograde.

    The lunar eclipse that follows that Pisces solar eclipse in March 2015 falls on the U.S. Saturn at 14+ Libra on April 4th. Like you mentioned previously, the U.S. Ceres is at 8+ Pisces as is the NJ Port Authority’s Uranus (square U.S. Uranus 8+ Gemini) and as transiting Neptune passes over that degree in March-April 2015 the country will likely be in a fragile state for reasons unpredictable now.

    Although the wheels of justice do move slowly, I, like you, believe this is all about government corruption. There are so many pieces to the puzzle (NJ government, Bridgegate etc.) and it’s only one part of the whole Pluto square Uranus process. It will be better (safer) for the nation’s psyche to move slowly don’t you think? In the Feb/March 2014 issue of The Mt. Astrologer magazine Jessica Murray has a wonderful article called Right Use of Power. In it she refers to America’s Father Complex, the natal Sun square Saturn aspect. It seems to me that we Americans also have a Mother Complex and both are signaling that it’s time we (as a whole) grow up, especially regarding taking responsibility, including who we elect to government positions.

  115. alex says:

    I am in need of an EDITOR that’s for sure, well I do write down or print out your comments when they are complex with lots of details; I’ll have to do that with your above notations…. so I can sort out 2013,2014,2015 activation points to the Radix Port Authority chart… and then give it some thought;

    Prosperphina @29 Gemini
    Persephone @12 Cancer cnj Ceres @12 Cancer

    persephone the minor asteroid, is part of minor asteroid myth duality symbol, or two sides of one coin;

    persephone (underground, winter, raped, hostage/captive held by Hades)

    prosperpina (above ground, spring, virgin, free)

    mundane astrology prosperpina (seed money, cash flow money)

    persephone in mundane astrology …. WELL the 2014 Stationing, Transiting Mars SRX 4/25 to 5/2/2014 @11-12 Libra & SD Transiting Mars 6/7 to 6/15/2014 @11-12 Libra that forms the Port Authority Cardinal Grand Cross by Synastry will speak to Persephone’s role in 21C mundane astrology:

    Port Authority Cardinal Grand Cross

    11 Aries – chiron,vesta,nessus
    12 Cancer – Persephone, Ceres, (usa sun 13 cancer)
    2014 Transiting Mars @11-12 Libra
    Transiting Pluto @11 Capricorn (corruption in government)
    Nemesis @11 Capricorn

    (check for typos :-)

  116. alex says:


    continued – Demeter (Ceres) – co-ruler of Virgo

    some astrologers consider Ceres to be co-rule of Virgo

    Virgo Issues – natural zodiac 6TH House, key words focusing on work, duty, responsibilities

    2013 December T/UR @08AR opposite Port Authority DEMETER @08LI

    2014 April, PA Sun @09 Taurus activated by SE @08TA

    2014 June, Transiting Neptune SRX @07 Pisces activates USA Ceres @08PI, Port Authority UR@08 PI

    Port Authority Yod

    Demeter (apex) @08 Libra
    (some astrologers agree ERIS is co-ruler of Libra)


    PA Sun @09 Taurus


    PA Uranus @08 Pisces

    2015 March, Transiting Mercury @08Pisces
    Port Authority Uranus @08 Pisces

    UR15AR square PL15CP

    followed by 2015, March 20TH Total Solar Eclipse @29 Pisces
    Port Authority ERIS @29 Pisces

    background: SE 3/20/2015 closes eclipse to mainland UK since 1999
    SE begins in Atlantic Ocean shadow goes to point between UK & Iceland;

    2015 March 21, Spring Equinox N. Node @09 Libra
    activates Port Authority Demeter @08 Libra,

    2015 May T/N.Node @08 Libra exact cnj PA Demeter @08 Libra
    as T/Merucry SRX
    good charts for UR square PL series

    Finale Review UR-PL SQUARE

    2015 April 4TH Total Lunar Eclipse @15 Libra

    revisit the chart for Final UR square PL at 15 Degrees

    Forms T- Square (15 degrees Cancer unassigned for Cardinal Grand Cross by Synastry)


    Port Authority Issues – NJ Christie – over all government corruption, malfeasance issues

    Zodiac Signs, issues refined via minor asteroid co-ruler awareness

    Virgo work & responsibilities (ceres/demeter co-ruler)

    Libra relationships, partnerships (eris co-ruler)
    (Port Authority Demeter APEX YOD @08 Libra)

    FIREWORKS: ERIS – the challenge to transform
    Port Authority Eris @29 Pisces
    Total Solar Eclipse @29 Pisces, March 20, 2015

  117. alex says:

    Last Port Authority Notation:

    Sextile Kite

    PA Sun @09 Taurus (Apex, Nose, Lift)


    PA Pluto @07 Cancer
    PA Uranus @07 Pisces


    2013 Transiting North Node Moon (range)
    Sept. 1, 2013 N. Node @09 Scorpio
    Nov. 5, 2013 N. Node @07 Scorpio

    (re-election Chris Christie)

  118. Helen says:

    Guardian article on the increasing criminaliization of activism:

    “Are you opposed to fracking? Then you might just be a terrorist:

    Investigative journalist Steve Horn reports that TransCanada has also worked closely with American law-enforcement and intelligence agencies in attempting to criminalise US citizens opposed to the pipeline.”

    A frightening realization that we no longer have the freedom to protest or challenge without paying a heavy price.

  119. Lorrie U says:

    Helen – It is disturbing that activism is being viewed as terrorism. One can be active without use of terror to make their position known, while one can be a covert terrorist. Another example of “we the people” against big money corporate power and their Plutonian overreach. Isn’t their intimidation terrorism of sorts?

  120. Lorrie U says:

    Alex – Thanks for the link about healing touch for animals. I recently attended a class paid for by our shelter to learn Tellington Touch for cats and dogs. They use it on horses also. For those cats who are so frightened as to be untouchable, we work with turkey feathers and do the TTouch on them that way. It really does help them. We also have a woman who does Reiki on the animals at the clinic after surgery. I’m very proud of our progressive organization and hope one day we will be a model for others to follow.

  121. Lorrie U says:

    Starlight – I’m concerned about safety at the Sochi Olympics. Do you see anything that suggests our participants might be in harm’s way?

  122. alex says:

    — the Christie-Hoboken-Port Authority-Sandy Funds investigation for malfeasance in government office is ARCHETYPE for the age old story of status quo gov. corruption accepted as the standard way things have become (learned helplessness SHRUG what can anyone do … then they don’t)

    it is ARCHETYPE when astrology narrates the probablities and potentials of the signs,elements,aspects,etc so closely… it fits as the vectors tools of astrology move in synch like a swiss clock as objective events happened and are unfolding…

    what happens eventually and how it is handled ( is there transformation for better government, better leadership, and does public expect better and raises the common dominator to a higher level hereafter …. will tell us how 21C has taken the trajectory for the next 50-100 years…

    Cultural Symbolism narrated with archetype mundance astrology

  123. alex says:

    CREDO MOIBLE – ACTION : Except Email

    Verizon killed net neutrality last week. But CREDO is fighting back: over 160,000 CREDO activists have signed a message we are delivering to the new chairman of the FCC demanding that he take action now to save equality on the internet.

    Verizon killed Net Neutrality.

    That’s right—Verizon challenged the FCC and a federal court ruled that the FCC can’t regulate broadband internet providers like Verizon the way it regulates phone companies…like Verizon. So the court paved the way for Verizon and other big corporations to block or slow your access to any website, application or service any time they want and for any reason.

    It’s happened before. And now it may happen again.

    CREDO funds the movement for an open internet—with millions in donations to nonprofits like Free Press, the ACLU, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and many more. In contrast, AT&T and Verizon have spent millions of dollars fighting against net neutrality and an open internet.

    CREDO Mobile is as committed to your privacy as we are to your right to free speech. Just last week CREDO Mobile became the first telecom carrier in the wake of the NSA scandal to issue a transparency report, publicly reporting government requests for our customer information.

    Can you say any of that about your phone company?

  124. kiwi says:

    Last weekend on UP there was a guest of Steve’s that said essentially, that such deals through influencing politicians was nothing new and that’s the way the political system works, especially in new jersey. Move along, this is normal you bozos.

    I thought at the time, that this event is being ‘used by the cosmos’ to bring awareness to these current generations about how politics still ‘really’ works. Most people do not get that the democracy mantra used by politicians is really a sham used by the moneyed class to pacify the masses. That the game is still rigged, and that, at best, democratic activism can only put a finger in the hole in the dam, so to speak.
    Years ago I remember being distinctly surprised when Laura Bush in an interview slipped in the term ‘chattering class,’ seemingly unconsciously. For me, that was the ‘aha’ moment.

    What also keeps coming up for me, is the fact that QEI granted the first charter for a corporation, the east india company, and essentially it was protection of that company and related tax revenues, that led to the Declaration of Independence. In other words, big business in bed with the ruler.
    US true independence worked for a short while, just ’til the big money in the South dictated, but for most people, if you didn’t interfere with their everyday lives, they didn’t give the government and its workings much thought. Their small sphere was independent.
    So I keep thinking of the US Pluto return and am fascinated about the thought of how that will play out.
    I spoke to Sally McDonald years and years ago about this and she had a chart for the East India Company. Cannot remember the date though, around 1600. She sometimes used it to look at issues around corporations in general. Perhaps if I/we can find the date she used it could be used to glean the ‘health’ of the relationship to government and big business?

  125. alex says:


    here is excerpt that looks like the info to draw the 1600 chart…. the founding of American colonies First Bank might also be relevant to understand the wealthy elite consolidation of power in early America and going forward… the issue is a big one there will be several charts to analze… the corporation chart you noted is core; the settlement of Jamestown Virginis I believe was also funded by corporation if my memory is accurate then that corporation and it’s history need to be considered as well;

    founded 1600

    Royal charter from Queen Elizabeth 1600, oldest among
    several similarly formed EU East India Companies…


    London: on 31 December 1600, the Queen granted a Royal Charter to “George, Earl of Cumberland, and 215 Knights, Aldermen, and Burgesses” under the name, Governor and Company of Merchants of London trading with the East Indies.

    For a period of fifteen years the charter awarded the newly formed company a monopoly on trade with all countries east of the Cape of Good Hope and west of the Straits of Magellan.

  126. Sharon Katz says:

    I don;t know if any or many of you have read Matthew’s latest message published 1/5/14, but I just did and found it very moving….after a short & beautiful description of the positive view of current events, he gives a long testimony about Jesus’s life or, as he was known then, Emmanuel. Matthew shares that he was the apostle Matthew and what he has to say is quite interesting.

  127. Patty says:

    I must apologize for all the ‘Fire in my Chart’ and my outburst on the attack of ‘Big Government’. I often go into the enemy camps, reading lots of Republican propaganda material and see their constant mantra: “Destroy Government…Let the free market reign”!
    At times, I even suspect Snowden was purposely orchestrated to come-out at this time by the Libertarian Ayn Rand, Rand Paul types to trick the nation into believing government, of the people, have grown out of control with too much welfare and all…and must be disassembled!
    By chance, I came across this brilliant gentleman speaking on ‘Plutocracy’s History’. How the ruling elite’s shock and fear after the 1960’s with losing their control/power. It’s a short 11:00 video that’s very thought-provoking at this crucial juncture of our nation.
    Please check him out: “Plutocracy to Deep Democracy”

  128. kiwi says:

    Thanks Alex. That dec 31 date does sort of ring a bell, and I think is probably the date Sally used. I think she used a noon chart. Interesting too, because that date would coincide with the sun degree for several countries also.

    I don’t have the skills to interpret what it all means, but would absolutely be interested in yours and other experts take on that slant.

  129. starlight says:

    Lorrie – I haven’t seen anything to suggest a big crisis at the Sochi Olympics, but…Mercury will be retrograde and there will be a Sun/Saturn square and a Mercury/Saturn square during the time frame. So I would expect delays, possibly bomb scares that cause evacuations, or some other difficulties that transpire.

  130. starlight says:

    This may be Rachel’s opening story tonight and the next chapter of Christie-Gate.

    Amid growing questions about lane closures on the George Washington Bridge and Sandy aid to Hoboken, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is facing an additional charge about his administration’s disbursement of relief aid. State data, obtained from the Christie administration through a lawsuit by the Fair Share Housing Center, reveal a dramatic racial gap in who received preliminary approval for funds from Sandy relief programs.

    According to the data, decried by groups including the New Jersey NAACP, the Latino Action Network and the New York Times editorial board, the Reconstruction, Rehabilitation, Elevation and Mitigation Program rejected 35.1 percent of African-American applicants, 18.1 percent of Latino applicants, and only 13.6 percent of Caucasian applicants. The Resettlement Program rejected 38.1 percent of African-Americans, 20.4 percent of Latinos and 13.6 percent of Caucasians.

  131. alex says:


    I think the 12/31/1600 London is the chart you referred to but though I think it is a hallmark chart the chart that is radix/core for when corporations became ‘persons’ (available at ) is the modern chart that narrates the rigged conditions of the economy…having said that there is a timeframe ( can’t recall the range) when corporations had expiration date… only operable and legal to accomplish a set upon established purpose and after that purpose was done the corporation dissolved…. that specific time? or timeframe is important to consider as well…. of course the vested business corporate interests used their influence to make corporations go on into infinity with no end date and that opportunity for regulation for accountability ono corporate wealthy elite powers came and went….

    I’ll give it some thought: 1600 chart, starcats chart corporation became ‘people’ and Jamestown settlment? I’d want to use the challenges to democracy we are facing now to the on-point relevant chart(s)then possible go forward and from there…

    what do you think?

    the first reform needed to bring positive changes is to roll back Citizen’s United…then going back in history to the relevant charts;


    We have Bancroft Davis, Supreme Court Reporter, attorney, and former president of Newburgh and New York Railway, to thank for corporations incarnating as human beings.

    In his role as Court Reporter for the U.S. Supreme Court in 1886, Bancroft Davis (as he was commonly known) took it upon himself to include the following in his headnote (reporter’s short summary of the court’s opinion), on the ruling in matter of Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad: “The court does not wish to hear argument on the question whether the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which forbids a State to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws, applies to these corporations. We are all of the opinion that it does.” (See footnotes).

    After the Civil War ended the 13th Constitutional Amendment abolishing slavery was passed in December 1865. The 14 amendment (ensuring that all former slaves were granted automatic U.S. citizenship, and be accorded all the rights and privileges granted under the law) passed 7 months later on July 13, 1866 — or 33 days after U.S. corporations had already been granted those full rights and privileges in the Santa Clara case.

  132. alex says:

    – continued rigged economy

    you might want to consider the US History Crash Course by John Green ( amazingly comprehensive, fresh and accurate perspective of US History) and find a point of focus that suits your interests to analyze…

    I think the early American war debts and the treaties/agreements to pay those debts set a trajectory that consolidated power into the hands of the wealthy elite in early America… that too is something to consider;

  133. kiwi says:

    WOW what a Capricorn lineup. And Pluto’s current position on the east india company natal chart is pretty interesting don’t you think? Certainly rattling some cages methinks.

  134. kiwi says:

    Alex, for some reason I tend to be drawn to the east india company as the fundamental beginning, perhaps because the basic influential corporate entities these days are worldwide and not just American.

  135. Anne's Aunt says:


    Interesting questions you have.

    Besides revolution (usually taken to mean merely political revolution) Uranus is also volatile and represents electronic communication and communication between networks of people. Computers, phones etc. and networks of people are Uranus interests. Grade inflation started because of money when the costs of higher education became so high and difficult to meet that a grade given along a curve seriously hurt many deserving students financially. Many more students these days need to borrow money (Pluto-debt) to even afford college, let alone grad school. This started many years ago.

    So Uranus square Pluto in Cap could be seen as struggles of networks vs. established rules and push back against money in the forms of debt. Every institution has established rules (cap influences) not just business or government. It is possible that every generation of mature adults finds the behavior of upcoming generations confusing and disturbing. By the time a generation matures it represents capricorn influences – establishment, with established rules and standards. But stick with them – they are people, just young, and the generations that are now mature certainly pushed back at the ones we followed and were given hell for it by our elders.

    I teach, occasionally at universities and colleges. I know some profs issue two grades – the official recorded grade and the grade sent directly to the student which is not an inflated grade. It depends on the prof and the amount of $$ the institution costs. Very expensive institutions have more grade inflation I’ve heard. When I teach I want to pass on established skills and knowledge and practices and also find the phones annoying. I’ve tried several things which I’ve found interesting and some more effective than others. But all involve having the networking devices (usually phones, but sometimes laptops) in the teaching moment. A lesson can be texted to all class members, or a student contribution, or a criticism. Or a student can text me an answer to be shared with the class or image or whatever the subject. However effective I don’t use it to belittle or expose them, and they often respond since I am trying to connect the two communication styles (using the square as a challenge not an obstacle. )

  136. Anne's Aunt says:

    Also, even though higher education inflation started many years ago it was brought into the light during the Occupy movement. Quite a square (challenge).

  137. Anne's Aunt says:

    Also, regarding the younger generation’s involvement with online networks….welcome to the age of Aquarius. We are all being connected into networks. We older saturn influenced people are much less comfortable with it, but we are being connected nevertheless. Corporate and government surveilance, blogs like this one, facebook, twitter journalism, instagram, new ways of advertising are connected with electronic network systems. When was the last time you advertised for your business by photocopying leaflets and tacking them to trees? We even send evites to parties. We are being connected in very new ways – some of us even have bio connections like replacement hips and knees, organ transplants and even antibiotics. This will be a huge challenge for the upcoming generations. Will complete privacy disappear? I’d say it already has, and we have given it away willingly.

    But, uh oh, now we find that our phones track us, and our computers spy on us. Corporations and governments surveil and spy on us too, and we don’t even have to have our computers connected to the internet – there are backdoors. With the new drone regulations there will be ever more drones surveiling the traffic, weather, us.

    The upcoming generations will have to be fluent in devices and networks in order to help humanity evolve. Unplugging them is not the answer and actually would damage their chances to deal with the new Aquarian age beginning to flow over us.

  138. alex says:


    great chart 1600 – –

    414 years ago from this year 2014 the East India Charter/Corporation was formed ( I think, but fact check me on this… that there were charters/corporations granted by England to collective shareholders/traders before 1600)


    mars 2 year cycle
    jupiter 12 year cycle
    saturn 30 year cycle
    uranus 84 years cycle – historically identified as standard for human longevity

    neptune 164 year cycle
    pluto 248 year cycle

    1/22/2014 ERIS @22 Aries conjunct East India Pluto @22 Aries
    this would be the past and present zodiac sign, element, quality and aspects I’d analyze first;

    East India Neptune @29 Leo (fixed star REGULUS well known meaning/influence mundane astrology/geopolitical astrology – – by precision adjusted to 00 Virgo at present)

    I think is significant as well for aspect analysis;

    those are the beginning contact points I’d start with…. if you will examine the following:

    Eris, Pluto, Neptune cycles and the 21C modern transits that would be significant groundwork to narrate the probabilities/potential for Corporations unfolding their economic influences and culture in the present and ONGOING….

    East India Charter – Cardinal Trine
    Pluto @22 Aries
    Vesta @23 Sagittarius
    Chiron @19 Leo (leadership degree) (as yet unassigned degrees 20 to 23 Leo)

    Yod East India Charter

    Pluto @22 Aries (apex)
    Jupiter @22 Virgo
    Moon (earlier than noon) @22 Scorpio


    Eris, takes 560 years to orbit the Sun, whereas Pluto takes 248 years to make the same orbit. Eris moves more than twice as slowly as Pluto around the Sun. Outer planets that move slowly, staying often in a degree for a long period of time, exerts a corresponding powerful influence on world events.

  139. Pat Sharp says:

    Kiwi………………Without consulting my geneology book, for exact date, I recall that my ancestor, Pierre Falconnier, lost his fortune in the first stock market crash ever, by the East India Company.
    It was about 1724. Ha I should be so impoverished as he. He retained a 56′ brick farmhouse, with livestock, orchards, barns etc. to live on……….in Hackensack NJ, but died shortly thereafter & his DAUGHTER had to divest, all his other land holdings……..Yes, a widowed woman, she had legal control over his estate. I remember well, that discussion on Astroworld, & with Sally.

  140. alex says:

    continued ‘rigged economy’

    some of the charters/sharholder collectives might be called speculative … some made profit and continued …for for some the seed money was lost and the charter did not continue….

    the question I think that needs to be applied to Modern Corporate Globalization is….. what are the factors ( national laws,international agreements,wars,Central Banks etc) that solidified the unassailable HIERARCHICAL TRIUMPH & CONTROL OF Global Corporations over every thing else?

    I think you’d have to consider the history of PATENTS in ENGLAND AND AMERICA as a significant factor as well;

  141. alex says:


    “Poverty is the worst form of violence.” ? Mahatma Gandhi

    There is nothing new about poverty. What is new is that we now have the techniques and the resources to get rid of poverty. The real question is whether we have the will. – Martin Luther King

    Overcoming poverty is not a task of charity, it is an act of justice. Like Slavery and Apartheid, poverty is not natural. It is man-made and it can be overcome. – Nelson Mandela

    “The times talk to us of so much poverty in the world and this is a scandal. Poverty in the world is a scandal. In a world where there is so much wealth, so many resources to feed everyone, it is unfathomable that there are so many hungry children, that there are so many children without an education, so many poor persons. Poverty today is a cry.” – Pope Francis, Meeting with Students of Jesuit Schools—Q&A, 6/7/13

  142. barbk says:

    Thanks Nancy for the heads-up for Rachel tonight and alex, indeed, stunningly archetypal is the astrology surrounding these stories. kiwi says it best, “this event is being used by the cosmos to bring awareness to these generations.” With so much information, alex has exceeded all expectations for pointing out the many pockets of potential exposure to corruption within government and/or business. So much so that I am overwhelmed by it all.

    I had mentioned earlier how the October lunar eclipse at 25 Aries had hit both Mayor Zimmer’s and the Port Authority’s charts, guiding us through the emotional setup of this story but it is the Scorpio solar eclipse of November 3 that provides the more rational view that will give us structure as to how the story will unravel.

    The Eclipse Scorpio Sun and Moon (11+ degrees) was sextile Mars at 11+ Virgo in the November 3 chart. Transiting Uranus and Dawn Zimmer’s natal Venus at 9+ Aries would have been in the apex of a yod that the eclipse sextile provided, and her natal Juno “fairness to the disadvantaged” (property owners in this case) at 7+ Scorpio (conjunct solar eclipse north node and Mercury) provided inescapable involvement in Christie’s web. Even tighter was the Port Authority’s triple conjunction of Chiron, Nessus and Vesta at 11+ Aries at the exact apex of the Sun/Moon-Mars sextile.

    The (other) most interesting pattern of the solar eclipse chart’s planets is a series of “9’s”; 4 planets in four consecutive signs, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces, Aries that connect the 4 planets, Pluto, Juno, Chiron and Uranus to the charts of Christie, the Port Authority and Mayor Zimmer.

    Christie: Mercury in Libra (square Eclipse Pluto and opposite Eclipse Uranus), Mars in Cancer (oppose Eclipse Pluto, square eclipse Uranus, trine Eclipse Chiron), Pluto in Virgo (opposite Eclipse Chiron, trine Eclipse Pluto, quincunx Eclipse Uranus) are all at 9 degrees, and his Neptune at 11+ Scorpio took a direct hit from the eclipse sun/moon.

    Port Authority: Sun at 9+ Taurus squared the Eclipse Juno at 9+ Aquarius and trined eclipse Pluto. The PA’s Jupiter (8 Virgo 58 rx) opposed the Eclipse Chiron at 9+ Pisces (and the PA natal Uranus at 8+ Pisces)

    Zimmer: Venus at 9+ Aries conjunct the Eclipse Uranus at 9+ Aries and square Pluto at 9+ Capricorn but sextile Eclipse Juno at 9+ Aquarius. Her natal Nessus at 9+ Gemini trined the Eclipse Juno, squared the Eclipse Chiron and sextiled the Eclipse Uranus (and Zimmer’s Venus) Also Eclipse Jupiter at 20+ Cancer sextiled the Mayor’s natal Pluto at 20+ Virgo rx.

    By utilizing the November 3, 2013 Solar Eclipse chart pattern to connect these 3 entities to specific energies through the aspects made from their native charts to the eclipse chart planets can help us focus on how the investigation(s) will reveal what role each will play. The eclipse planets at the “9’s” each sextile one other “9”; Uranus sextiles Juno, Chiron sextiles Pluto, and I expect this will show up in testimony over the coming months. It may be Scorpio’s eclipse but it is Pluto and Uranus running the show. I wouldn’t underestimate Juno either because of her very long period half-way (cross-road point) between the transiting nodes.

  143. Sharon Katz says:

    I’m not sure, but I thought that some of you astroid fans might find this interesting…

    “Ceres astroid vents water vapor”

  144. alex says:


    the November 2013 SE is the celestial event, you are right, that
    inscribes modern day corruption into one all-encompassing morality play;

    roles to be defined….

  145. kiwi says:

    The other news event of the moment that is illustrative of how ‘normal’ the politics of entitlement and collusion has become with big businessmen, is how absolutely sure of himself that Bob McDonald is when he proclaims to have done ‘nothing wrong’

  146. Professor Marc Bertonasco says:

    Nancy–Your latest analyses rank among the most illuminating available anywhere! But I have a question. What stellar aspects account for the turmoil and angst afflicting the republican party? Most of my republican acquaintances are depressed and conflicted. (Some act weird.) I don’t think the end times have arrived for the GOP, but this is surely not a happy time for that group. I acknowledge that many recent events have tormented the right wing. But my question is: What specific planets are involved? Yes, many of us are deeply distressed by the state of the country. But so are our political opponents! (We should not ignore that circumstance.) The powerful comments of the Pope on social justice have doubtless played a key role. They are certainly not republican friendly! In fact his pronouncements have undermined the moral authority of the Christian right. Professor Marc Bertonasco

  147. Helen says:

    Even though politics is unfortunately often a platform for unsavory behaviors, Christie’s rogueish ways were spilling out on so many other areas, it couldn’t be contained anymore. Like this article states in regards to Christie’s time as Attorney General of New Jersey:

    “In November 2010 the U.S. Department of Justice Inspector General reported on an audit it had conducted regarding submitted expenses from all U.S. Attorneys. As with other Federal employees, there are guidelines defining allowable expenses while travelling on the government’s dime. The vast majority of U.S. Attorneys were found to generally follow the expense guidelines, but there were four exceptions where the audit found a pattern of excess expenses submitted for reimbursement. One in particular ” was the U.S. Attorney who most often exceeded the government rate without adequate justification. ” That U.S. Attorney was identified in the report as “US Attorney C,” but was subsequently revealed to be none other than Chris Christie, and the report seemed to reveal a pattern of entitlement and arrogance unequaled among the other 92 U.S. Attorneys .”

    Chris Christie’s Many Tales From the Dark Side–s-Many-T-by-Jerry-Policoff-Chris-Christie_Government-Corruption_New-Jersey-140121-609.html

  148. alex says:

    Sharon Katz
    that is a great article… I began surveying it but will read it tomorrow after I get some sleep…. water vapor from Ceres….that along with comets (water vapor) would carry the celestial ‘dust’ and particles possibly needed to begin life on a planet;

  149. alex says:


    A team of scientists is mapping out a mission to the huge metallic asteroid Psyche, which is thought to be the exposed iron core of a battered and stripped protoplanet.

    The proposed mission would reveal insights about planet formation processes and the early days of the solar system, its designers say, and would also afford the first-ever good look at an odd class of celestial objects.

  150. alex says:


    1600 Charter continued

    I re-drew the 1600 chart for 5:10 LMT (5:10;40 UT) when the moon was at 22SC16 to align it with pluto at 22Aries16

    ASC 01 Sagittarius
    MC 27 Virgo

    threw in some more minor asteroids and will look at it after some sleep….

  151. alex says:

    1600 continued

    this is a hypothetical chart ( I delineate/analyze them frequently) it isn’t a rectified chart;

  152. alex says:

    1600 Charter Hypothetical Chart

    First Impression:

    Mutable Grand Cross

    Asc @01 Sagittarius
    1600 Charter 9TH HOUSE – Neptune @29 Leo (precision 00Virgo)
    Des @01 Gemini
    3RD HOUSE – ASTRAEA @01 Pisces


    Lady of right judgment and integration ,goddess of justice

    Astraea was a classical goddess of justice, whose symbol was the balanced scales. She presided over the moral sense of rightness and good order, and the poetic tradition relates that she was the last of the divinities to leave the world at the end of the Golden Age.

    Astraea was then translated into the heavens as the constellation Virgo. These elements of myth give you clues to the meaning of the asteroid Astraea in the horoscope. She is concerned with the integration and organization of things, bringing sometimes disparate elements together and finding the common links that join them up in the web of life.

    She helps you to focus on detail and understand the meaning of the fine print. She helps you to work both hard and well, and helps you to become more ordered and tidy in at least some aspects of your life.

    Astraea can also help you to become quite high minded, whilst integrating into this spacious vision an ability to zero in and see all the small things that go together to make up the greater whole.

    She can stir up a compulsive quality, too, and stimulate an obsessive streak. This can cause a kind of splitting, which is another aspect of Astraea energy: the goddess who brings things together can also tear them apart. She does all this, ultimately, in the service of wholeness, and reveals those things it is time to clean up and get rid of, so that everything else can evolve into a more perfect form.

    Wherever Astraea goes, you are urged to get organized and get your act together – and become the best you can be!

    Astraea is an asteroid that represents the eyes. It represents also what we “see” visually and how we are affected by what it is we see. Astraea is also an asteroid that indicates an inability to let go or resolve. So if you “see” something with Astraea in mind, it is likely you will not be getting over what it was that you did see. Those who have Astraea for example conjunct or in aspect to Venus will not get over their relationships. There could also be a tendency to leave a job but later go back to it, even if only for a moment. There is no burning of bridges when Astraea is involved. There is a lack of closure with this energy.

    Astraea is about how we dealing with those endings that are left dangling. If Astraea falls in the fifth there may be some unresolved ending with relationships or regarding a child. It may be that it is difficult to finish one’s creative projects. So whatever planet is aspecting Astraea in the chart, will affect the energy of whatever it is that is left hanging. Mercury could relate to unfinished thoughts or communications. It could also indicate on-going or unresolved issues with siblings. This could also be true if Astraea falls in the third house of a natal chart. Astraea adds the detail that none of the planets could add.

    Colleen Schmidt, astrologer

    Astraea is an asteroid that represents the eyes. It represents also what we “see” visually and how we are affected by what it is we see. Astraea is also an asteroid that indicates an inability to let go or resolve.

    So if you “see” something with Astraea in mind, it is likely you will not be getting over what it was that you did see. Those who have Astraea for example conjunct or in aspect to Venus will not get over their relationships. There could also be a tendency to leave a job but later go back to it, even if only for a moment. There is no burning of bridges when Astraea is involved. There is a lack of closure with this energy.

    Astraea is about how we dealing with those endings that are left dangling. If Astraea falls in the fifth there may be some unresolved ending with relationships or regarding a child. It may be that it is difficult to finish one’s creative projects.

    So whatever planet is aspecting Astraea in the chart, will affect the energy of whatever it is that is left hanging. Mercury could relate to unfinished thoughts or communications. It could also indicate on-going or unresolved issues with siblings. This could also be true if Astraea falls in the third house of a natal chart. Astraea adds the detail that none of the planets could add.

  153. alex says:

    oops I duplicated it looks like Colleen quotes Zane Stein who came before her (astraea)

    Corporations History – Peace & War Issues (needs notations)

    1600 Charter Hypothetical Chart

    Saturn, Uranus, Venus T-Square
    (yet unassigned degrees 01-08 Leo, forming Fixed Grand Cross)

    Astraea is in 3RD House Hypothetical Chart

    the cusp of 3RD is Aquarius (ruler Uranus, co-ruler Saturn)

    1600 Charter – Horoscope Mundane Astrology

    11TH House – Saturn @08 Scorpio (power)
    5TH House – Uranus @01 Taurus (money)

    2ND House – Venus @02 Aquarius (per skyscript: governs women’s issues, national birth rate, social factors connected to marriage and children. Artists, musicians and the arts. Facilities for sport and entertainment. Peace and diplomatic resolutions.)

    (per Moon Valley: Signifies that which is pleasant and enjoyable such as the arts, entertainment, music and other social pleasures, as well as diplomacy, decorum and ceremonial functions.

    It is associated with both peace (soft aspects) and with war, or involvement in negotiations leading to peace.

    It rules fashion and glamour, artists and the feminine, aesthetics and cultural areas.

    It is connected with national resources and finances through bankers, financial institutions and farming.

    Venus signifies young women, courtship and marriage. An afflicted Venus may indicate cultural or artistic suppression, or censure.)

  154. alex says:

    1600 Charter Horoscope (Corporation)


    I am going to make a comment in broadstroke from memory…. clean up in aisle one if/when someone wants to do their homework:

    Money Brokers – lent cash for interest on principle repayment

    Money Brokers (and others) realized at some point in history that war could be a lucrative business and began FUNDING BOTH SIDES OF REGIONAL WARS (hedged their bets so to speak) therefore creating WAR as a business and World Wars so on and so forth;

    The Money Brokers became BANKS/BANKERS…. when Banks were asked by Supreme Leaders/or Monarchs to fund their wars they did it gladly…. and thereby over time became more powerful (through debt service on the principle) than the nations/or/monarchs themselves…. the bankers turned the tables on nations/leaders and their wealthy elite ….

    Bankers became defacto leaders of the economic survival of client-nations and directed how Economic Growth of those nations would proceed;

    VENUS symbolizes both peace & war (Venus rules Libra & co-ruler is Eris)

    Q: Do all federally chartered banks have to be corporations?

    No they do not.

    Related Answers: EXCERPT

    Q: When a bank is granted a charter by the federal government what kind of bank does it operate as?

    The bank operates a NATIONAL BANK.

    Q: What is a corporate charter?

    A license granted by the state that gives the business the right to operate.

    Q: The Constitution never explicitly lists the power to charter banks and corporations. Why did Alexander Hamilton argue the US could still charter a bank?

    He argued there are both implied and expressly enumerated powers, and that both types of powers are delegated to the national government.

    Q: Is the Australian federal reserve bank a private corporation?

    Yes, the Australian Federal Reserve Bank is indeed a private corporation. In fact, all Federal Reserve Banks are private corporations.

  155. Jerry says:

    As discussed some time back, the Jan 31st Jupiter-Pluto/Venus station opposition at 12/13 Cancer-Capr. could directly relate to some kind of financial crisis. This opposition t squares China’s natal Mercury/Neptune conj (13/14 Libra).

    If China allows the China Credit Trust Company to default as many are expecting, similar to the US company Bear-Stearns debacle in 2008, we may soon witness the opening salvo on a pronounced downward decline in the worlds economies…….

    Mega Default On January 31 Could Devastate China’s Banking System

    China Daily Mail
    Jan. 20, 2014

    On Friday, Chinese state media reported that China Credit Trust Co. warned investors that they may not be repaid when one of its wealth management products matures on January 31, the first day of the Year of the Horse.


    China’s First Default Is Coming: Here’s What To Expect

    Jan. 22, 2014

    As we first reported one week ago, the first shadow default in Chinese history, the “Credit Equals Gold #1 Collective Trust Product” issued by China Credit Trust Co. Ltd. (CCT) due to mature Jan 31st with $492 million outstanding, appears ready to go down in the record books.

    Of course, in a world awash and supported by moral hazard, where tens of trillions in financial asset values are artificial and only exist due to the benevolence of a central banker, it would be all too easy to say that China – fearing an all too likely bank run on comparable shadow products (of where there a many) as a result – would just step in and bail it out. However, at least until today, China has maintained a hard line on the issue, indicating that as part of its deleveraging program it would risk a controlled default detonation, in order to realign China’s credit conduits even though such default would symbolically coincide with the first day of the Chinese New Year.

    In turn, virtually every sellside desk has issued notes and papers advising what this event would mean (“don’t panic, here’s a towel”, and “all shall be well”), and is holding conference calls with clients to put their mind at ease in the increasingly likely scenario that there is indeed a historic “first” default for a country in which such events have previously been prohibited.

    So with under 10 days to go, for anyone who is still confused about the role of trusts in China’s financial system, a default’s significance, the underlying causes, the implications for the broad economy, and what the possible outcomes of the CCT product default are, here is Goldman’s Q&A on a potential Chinese trust default.


  156. barbk says:

    Thanks for the article Helen, it reinforces my suspicion that Christie has Pisces rising with Jupiter on or near his ascendant. Jupiter in 1st house can often indicate a sense of entitlement. As for the “arrogance unequalled among the other 92 U.S. Attorneys”, in addition to a 1st house Jupiter, that might be attributed to his conjunction of asteroids Hybris and Industria in Scorpio which, with Pisces rising, would be in his 9th house of Law or possibly in the 8th house of other people’s money.

  157. alex says:


    Banca Monte dei Paschi di Siena S.p.A. is the oldest surviving bank in the world and Italy’s third largest bank. Founded in 1472 by the magistrate of the city state of Siena, Italy, as a “mount of piety”, it has been operating ever since. The bank’s main shareholder is the Fondazione Monte dei Paschi di Siena.

    Banca Monte dei Paschi di Siena was founded by order of the Magistrature of the Republic of Siena as Monte di Pietà in 1472, when its statute was approved. Since then the bank has been in operation without interruption to the present day. It is therefore considered the oldest bank in the world still operating.

    At the base of its foundation appears to be the “Statuto dei Paschi”, written in 1419 for the regulation of all activities related to agriculture and pastoralism in Maremma.

    The Oldest Bank In the World Is On The Verge Of Collapsing


    A delay to vital fundraising at Banca Monte dei Paschi di Siena has increased the risk that Italy’s third-biggest bank has to be nationalized, a move the government would like to avoid.

  158. alex says:


    Part one of a five-part series excerpted from Chapter 19: The Eight Families: Big Oil & Their Bankers…)

    The Four Horsemen of Banking (Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo) own the Four Horsemen of Oil (Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP Amoco and Chevron Texaco); in tandem with Deutsche Bank, BNP, Barclays and other European old money behemoths. But their monopoly over the global economy does not end at the edge of the oil patch.

    According to company 10K filings to the SEC, the Four Horsemen of Banking are among the top ten stock holders of virtually every Fortune 500 corporation. [1]

    So who then are the stockholders in these money center banks?

    This information is guarded much more closely. My queries to bank regulatory agencies regarding stock ownership in the top 25 US bank holding companies were given Freedom of Information Act status, before being denied on “national security” grounds. This is rather ironic, since many of the bank’s stockholders reside in Europe.

  159. alex says:


    BIS is the most powerful bank in the world, a global central bank for the Eight Families who control the private central banks of almost all Western and developing nations. The first President of BIS was Rockefeller banker Gates McGarrah- an official at Chase Manhattan and the Federal Reserve. McGarrah was the grandfather of former CIA director Richard Helms. The Rockefellers- like the Morgans- had close ties to London. David Icke writes in Children of the Matrix, that the Rockefellers and Morgans were just “gofers” for the European Rothschilds. [14]

    BIS is owned by the Federal Reserve, Bank of England, Bank of Italy, Bank of Canada, Swiss National Bank, Nederlandsche Bank, Bundesbank and Bank of France.

    Historian Carroll Quigley wrote in his epic book Tragedy and Hope that BIS was part of a plan, “to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole…to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert by secret agreements.”


    The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) (in French, Banque des règlements internationaux (BRI)) is an international organization of central banks which “fosters international monetary and financial cooperation and serves as a bank for central banks”. As an international institution, it is not accountable to any single national government.

  160. tetramorph says:

    Will, thanks for the reply. I think of Ike as a great General and a mediocre President who instigated a lot of BS. Foster Dulles was the Secretary of State (not Defense), Allen Dulles the head of CIA. How they got to those places really is an interesting and revealing story.

    It seems to me a lot of Foster’s influence was due to a religious connection between him and Ike, and Ike was lock-step with the brothers in what appear to me as detrimental attitudes — rudeness, suspicion, paranoia, that launched what some radical thinkers call “The 3rd World War;” the war on the developing world, esp. those seeking nationalization.

    This past Nov., Eric Francis made the observation that since JFK’s assassination, we’ve had 50 years of war — it’s really and truly been 60 years of war, beginning with the US led coup against Iran, Aug. 20, 1953. Ike was at war during his entire administration.

  161. alex says:



    The Dulles and Rockefeller families are cousins. Allen Dulles created the CIA.

    Brother John Foster Dulles presided over the phony Goldman Sachs trusts before the 1929 stock market crash and helped his brother overthrow governments in Iran and Guatemala.

    Both were Skull & Bones, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) insiders and 33rd Degree Masons.

  162. alex says:



    Running foreign policy during the Eisenhower administration was the Dulles family, led by Secretary of State John Foster Dulles, who had also concluded the US peace treaty with Japan under Harry Truman.

    Dulles had for three decades been a senior partner of the top Wall Street corporate-law firm of Sullivan & Cromwell, whose most important client was Rockefeller’s Standard Oil Company of New Jersey. Dulles had been for 15 years a member of the board of the Rockefeller Foundation, and before assuming the post of Secretary of State was chairman of the board of that institution.

    Most important is the little-known fact that Dulles’s wife was Janet Pomeroy Avery, a first cousin of John D. Rockefeller Jr.

    Heading the supersecret Central Intelligence Agency during the Eisenhower years was Dulles’s brother, Allen Welsh Dulles, also a partner in Sullivan & Cromwell.

    Allen Dulles had long been a trustee of the CFR and had served as its president from 1947 to 1951. Their sister, Eleanor Lansing Dulles, was head of the Berlin desk of the State Department during that decade.

  163. will says:

    I don’t know any other sources other than the author of the The Brothers that puts forth such a cynical and dark picture of Eisenhower. Again, I think the nefarious affairs of the Dulles brothers are being conflated with the policies and achievements of Eisenhower as the President. It would be equally erroneous to blame Kennedy for J.Edgar Hoover or President Obama for CIA black operatives.

    The geopolitical landscape and realities were far different from what they are today -and that is a very important factor when one chooses to critique the actions of world leaders some 60 years ago.
    Although Wikipedia facts are open to editorial, I think these facts stand.

    Eisenhower forced Israel, the UK, and France to end their invasion of Egypt during the Suez Crisis of 1956. In 1958, he sent 15,000 U.S. troops to Lebanon to prevent the pro-Western government from falling to a Nasser-inspired revolution. Near the end of his term, his efforts to set up a summit meeting with the Soviets collapsed because of the U-2 incident.[4] In his 1961 farewell address to the nation, Eisenhower expressed his concerns about future dangers of massive military spending, especially deficit spending, and coined the term “military–industrial complex”.

    On the domestic front, he covertly opposed Joseph McCarthy and contributed to the end of McCarthyism by openly invoking the modern expanded version of executive privilege. He otherwise left most political activity to his Vice President, Richard Nixon. He was a moderate conservative who continued New Deal agencies and expanded Social Security.

    Among his enduring innovations, he launched the Interstate Highway System; the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), which led to the internet, among many invaluable outputs; the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), driving peaceful discovery in space; the establishment of strong science education via the National Defense Education Act; and encouraging peaceful use of nuclear power via amendments to the Atomic Energy Act.[5]

    In social policy, he sent federal troops to Little Rock, Arkansas, for the first time since Reconstruction to enforce federal court orders to desegregate public schools. He also signed civil rights legislation in 1957 and 1960 to protect the right to vote. He implemented desegregation of the armed forces in two years and made five appointments to the Supreme Court. He was the first term-limited president in accordance with the 22nd Amendment. Eisenhower’s two terms were peaceful ones for the most part and saw considerable economic prosperity except for a sharp recession in 1958–59. Eisenhower is often ranked highly among the U.S. presidents.

    “Eisenhower forced Israel, the UK, and France to end their invasion of Egypt during the Suez Crisis of 1956. In 1958, he sent 15,000 U.S. troops to Lebanon to prevent the pro-Western government from falling to a Nasser-inspired revolution. Near the end of his term, his efforts to set up a summit meeting with the Soviets collapsed because of the U-2 incident.[4] In his 1961 farewell address to the nation, Eisenhower expressed his concerns about future dangers of massive military spending, especially deficit spending, and coined the term “military–industrial complex”.

    On the domestic front, he covertly opposed Joseph McCarthy and ce education via the National Defense Education Act; and encouraging peaceful use of nuclear power via amendments to the Atomic Energy Act.[5]

    In social policy, he sent federal troops to Little Rock, Arkansas, for the first time since Reconstruction to enforce federal court orders to desegregate public schools. He also signed civil rights legislation in 1957 and 1960 to protect the right to vote. He implemented desegregation of the armed forces in two years and made five appointments to the Supreme Court. He was the first term-limited president in accordance with the 22nd Amendment. Eisenhower’s two terms were peaceful ones for the most part and saw considerable economic prosperity except for a sharp recession in 1958–59.

    Eisenhower is often ranked highly among the U.S. presidents.”

  164. will says:

    apologies for the double-post of Wikipedia facts.

  165. starlight says:

    I am rethinking my earlier thoughts on Sochi. It comes during the waxing Uranus/Jupiter square. That will certainly up the possibility of explosive violence over the globe. The first crossing last summer brought that chemical weapons attack from Assad.

  166. Clymela says:

    Will-I just got to your offering on Eisenhower and I want to thank you. God I wish that we could still “respond” right under the individual postings-wah wah wah- I know but I always look forward to your words and thoughts and wanted to tell you so. Also, you are the only one who ever responds to anything I post. Toot toot!

  167. Lorrie U says:

    Alex – All money traces to the Bilderberg Group, who makes all global decisions.

  168. Clymela says:

    Wow-I think that my aside to Will sounds rude to everyone else and I did not intend that. I love this site and come here daily and even more than once daily and I love everyone and I learn so much from everyone.

  169. Lorrie U says:

    Clymela – We love you back. Can’t respond to everyone, so please don’t feel slighted, I always enjoy hearing from you even if a response isn’t given.

  170. alex says:


    thxs I’ve charted by not analyzed yet the chart for BIS, established May 17 1930 Basel Switzerland, Bank of International Settlements, international org of central banks which serves as a bank for central banks, as an international institution it is not accountable to any single national government

    The Bilderberg Group per wiki was formed 5/29/1954 Oosterbeck Netherlands, I’ll denlineate the chart ……

  171. alex says:

    Bildeberg Group continued

    Chart First Impression

    Cardinal Grand Cross

    CERES @00 Libra
    Mars @08 Capricorn
    Eris @08 Aries
    Jupiter @01 Cancer, Venus @07 Cancer

  172. barbk says:

    I’d never heard of DARPA and then today I read about it on two different sites. . . the other one is in the article titled The Polar Vortex: A Physical Manifestation of the Chilling Effect of NSA Surveillance It starts under the heading “Illuminati Logo Was Used In An Earlier Form Of NSA Surveillance” about 2/3’ds the way down.

  173. alex says:


    DARPA has been around since forever… it had slightly different name at or near end of WWII…. it is the research arm for the military for advanced tech ideas…. if you wiki it you’ll get the whole info… straightforward… they develop advance tech that is used for weaponry and commercial purpose… first weaponry then commerce;

  174. Noelle says:

    Barbk, wouldn’t Jupiter on Christie’s ascendant or in his 1st house account for his super-sized physique also?

  175. Anne's Aunt says:

    Elisio, I posted a comment on your interesting questions. It was held up in moderation (new commenter) and is now upthread. Just thought I’d mention that it is there. Thanks.

  176. Michael from NYC says:

    barbk and alex: without DARPA there never would have been an internet. the internet of today started as ARPAnet in 1969 as a way of linking researchers in government, contractors and academia:

    something people tend to forget that the foundation of technology today owes quite a bit of the cold war which also had positive effects like investments in education and NASA. in fact if you look at silicon valley what put it on the map was HP and stanford which benefitted greatly during the 50s and the 60s from federal investment. it’s wasn’t until the 70s with the PC era that they even thought about the general public or “mere consumers”.

  177. Bob says:

    ” Professor Marc Bertonasco
    January 22, 2014 at 11:38 pm

    . . . What stellar aspects account for the turmoil and angst afflicting the republican party? Most of my republican acquaintances are depressed and conflicted. . . . But my question is: What specific planets are involved?”

    The Sibly chart MC in DC is at 179°08′.

    GOP Prog Saturn on Dec 12, 2000, when the Supreme Court took the Presidency away from the Democrats and gave it to the Republicans was on the Desc at 179°09′.

    On Nov 4, 2008, when President Obama was elected, that progressed Saturn set at 178°23′, within 0°45′ of the Desc.

    As of today, Jan 23, 2014, that prog Saturn sets at 177°53′, within 1°16′ minutes of the Desc. If you use a 2 or 3 degree orb that progressed Saturn has been there for quite awhile. What has been adding (for all intents exact now) is the GOP prog Sun and Venus opposite the Sibly Mars (Mars at 80°35′, prog Sibly Sun at 260°23′ and prog Venus at 260°22′).

    On April 20, 2014 that prog Sun will be at 260°39′, just 4 minutes of arc past exact, a sliver.

    On election night in 2016 the GOP prog Sun at 263°29′ will square Sibly Neptune at 173°32′. Don’t know if that relates to subterfuge by them or a helpless feeling as their losses in the 2014 midterm elections are added to.

  178. Lorrie U says:

    “Most of my republican acquaintances are depressed and conflicted.” Music to my ears! They deserve to be depressed and conflicted, because they are depressing and conflicting.

  179. Lorrie U says:

    Why is Illinois, Not the US Government, Putting ‘NATO 3? on Trial for Terror Conspiracy?

    Three activists known as the “NATO 3? are scheduled to go on trial tomorrow in Chicago. They were arrested days before a North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) summit in the city in May 2012 and later indicted on terrorism and other felony conspiracy charges.

    The trial will be significant as it involves a state terrorism law. The defense has also suggested it is significant that the state of Illinois, not the federal government, has prosecuted the case. The judge has even apparently asked why the federal government is not prosecuting the case, suggesting something must be wrong with it.

    Undercover police were involved. They conducted a surveillance operation that involved infiltrating Occupy Chicago, an action at a local health clinic, etc, for at least a month prior to the summit. The conduct of the undercover police involved strongly suggests they played some role in pushing the activists to allegedly prepare Molotov cocktails.

  180. Lorrie U says:

    Building Keystone XL Pipeline Could Mean Roughly $100 Billion in Profits for the Koch Brothers, New Report Reveals.

  181. Bob says:


    Just saw your post about a meet up. It would be great to do so.

    But . . .

    I, me, moi, who has not seen a sawbones since Dec of 1997 has been wrestling with a problem for several months now and if it doesn’t clear up I will give in and let them have at me. Until this is resolved I am not making any extended plans.

    I was cruising along just fine until I quit smoking a year ago (Jan 28). No desire for cigarettes but aches and pains and other maladies associated with those people who are aged are starting to visit. Why me?

  182. will says:


    All good things to you in the way of healing and recuperation. Maybe coffee sometime in the future.


    Haven’t seen you post for a while – its great to see you have come out to play!


    re:DARPA x 2 today:

    Synchronicity in the Universe?

  183. alex says:

    Michael from NYC

    thanks for the notation… my position isn’t against DARPA itslf certainly has its positive accomplishments; I have the same feeling about that & et al associated with it as I do with some if not most of the yahoos that are in government, politics, business leadership; not the kind of people you’d want to know; a lot of goons and thugs hide behind the mask of patriotism just as a lot of sociopaths hide behind the robes of religious garbs….

  184. Jerry says:

    More extensive analysis on that China Credit Trust Company situation, whose debt payment comes due at the end of the month…….

    The $23 Trillion Credit Bubble In China Starting To Collapse
    by Michael Snyder

    Wall Street Sector
    January 21, 2014

    Financial institutions all over the world are warning that we could see a “mega default” on a high-yield investment product in China on January 31st.

    We are being told that this could lead to a cascading collapse of the shadow banking system in China which could potentially result in “sky-high interest rates” and “a precipitous plunge in credit“. In other words, it could be a “Lehman Brothers moment” for Asia. And since the global financial system is more interconnected today than ever before, that would be very bad news for the United States as well. Since Lehman Brothers collapsed in 2008, the level of private domestic credit in China has risen from $9 trillion to an astounding $23 trillion. That is an increase of $14 trillion in just a little bit more than 5 years. Much of that “hot money” has flowed into stocks(N, bonds and real estate in the United States. So what do you think is going to happen when that bubble collapses?


  185. alex says:


    here is wiki a) history of banking b) history of corporations

    Using 1600 East India Charter as the symbolic ‘Modern’ rendition of Corporations and

    1913 Fed Reserve established
    1930 Bank of International Settlement (bank for all central banks)
    1954 Bilderberg formed
    ___ maybe chart when Corporation become ‘persons’

    would be a good study of ‘rigging the economy’ for plutocracy/oligarchy making democracy “difficult” and further
    consolidating wealth power to elite international/global shadow world government…..

    thing is I think it’s clearly established in most people’s minds that are paying attention and studying history that there is no question the plan for elite global shadow government has been around for hundreds of years and that there is a relentless push by the entitled power/money elite building up institutions /mechanisms from one generation to another to make it happen….


    from my POV studying early 21C and what is happening to weaken the foundations of democracy, the trajectory and at what pace, should focus on SCOTUS… when John Roberts was confirmed as Justice it was the completion for the late 20C transformation of SCOTUS into an operative CORPORATE COURT…..

    between Corporate Court SCOTUS
    and NSA (the branch office for the Department of Defense MIC) operating advance emerging technologies and already developed tech used covertly against the “churning masses yearning to breathe free” eroding individual freedoms (the wellspring of human progress) that’s core for a study of Endangered Species – Humankind

    I think those two charts are enough for astro-shorthand analyze to detect what the issues are/and are yet to become that infringe on freedom ….

  186. alex says:

    continued NSA & Scotus John Robert

    John Roberts confirmed by Sneate 9/29/2005 by Senate same day at White House he took constitutional Oath of Office

    John Robert Took Judicial Oath Oct 3, 2005 at Supeme Court Building

    NSA – formed by memorandum Pres. Truman
    Oct 24, 1952, Washington DC ( I have in my notes 10:45AM but don’t have reference where time came from )

  187. alex says:

    Dick Cheney, GOP convention speech:

    Dick Cheney vowed on August 2, 2000 at the GOP nominating convention that it was time for Clinton & Gore politics to go and that “help was on the way”.

    Dick Cheney: “This is a great country, ladies and gentlemen, and it deserves great leadership. Let us go forth from this hall in confidence and courage, committed to restoring decency and honor to our republic. Let us go forth knowing that our cause is just and elect George W. Bush the 43rd president of the United States.”

    GOP John Boehner appearing on Jay Leno Tonight Show 1/23/2014 – “Jeb Bush is my friend, and I frankly think he’d make a great president,” Speaker John Boehner R-OH

    Natal Chart Jeb Bush

  188. alex says:

    Natal Jeb Bush continued:

    DOB 2/11/1953 Midland TX UT 20:50

    Natal Sun @23 Aquarius
    2014 Solar Arc Sun @24 Aries

    ASC @23 Virgo conjunct NSA Sisyaphus @23 Virgo

    Natal Neptune @23 Libra conjunct Bildeberg Neptune @23 Libra

    Natal Mars @03 Aries conjunct George W. Bush Vesta @03 Aries


    MC @22 Gemini cnj Natal VULKANUS @24 Gemini – 10TH HOUSE
    Natal Sun @23 Aquarius – 5TH HOUSE
    Natal Neptune @23 Libra – 2OND HOUSE


    Apex 2014 SA Sun @24 Aries – 7TH HOUSE
    N/Sun @23 Aquarius
    MC @22 Gemini, cnj VULKANUS @24 Gemini


    Natal Neptune @23 Libra

    ASC @23 Virgo cnj USA Neptune @22 Virgo
    MC @22 Gemini cnj USA Mars @21 Gemini


    GLYPH: The triangle or triad of order and integration is directed upward by the arrow. The triangle is also like a funnel which channels powerful primal collective energies from below, through the individual, toward higher objectives.

    Vulkanus thus represents one-pointed energies which are amassed and directed toward certain aims, ideally of benefit to society.

    The triangle indicates an innate potential for balance. If the balance is disturbed, the powerful energies can be disrupted and almost lightning-like or warlike coups may occur in order to restore order and bring all energies into alignment.

    If the arrow outweighs, the enthusiasm is not backed with stability, in which case the power of Vulkanus can be destructive.

    If the triangle outweighs, overconcern with maintaining stability can incline us to a reactionary mentality, and undermine progress.

    Primal energies from the collective subconscious directed towards or away from evolution. Aware of invisibile powers.

  189. alex says:



    All Nine Justices

    Since the dates are given for all nine justices the charts can be comprehensively compared for analysis of SCOTUS.

  190. Francis says:

    Alex, I noticed Jeb’s Moon at 26.1 Cap conjuncts the USA Sibley Pluto at 27.33 Cap…. kinda figures.

  191. barbk says:

    Lorrie. . just saw the “tall white aliens” link you provided and can’t thank you enough!!!

  192. Sharon Katz says:

    Bob, sometimes there is no substitute for good medical care & 2nd opinions….sending you you strong thoughts & white light for healing.

  193. Lorrie U says:

    Bob, I second Sharon’s sentiments!!

    Alex, great posts, very enlightening! Thank you…

  194. barbk says:

    Michael from NY and alex. . thanks for info re: DARPA, and Noelle, you betcha! It was my first clue but other stuff bears out the theory, like Nov. solar eclipse exactly conjunct his theoretical chart ruler, Neptune (11+ Scorpio) in 8th house, and sextile natal Mars (10+ Virgo) in 7th, square natal Moon (approx. 10+ Sagittarius) in 9th house. Neptune (deceive) in 8th (shared resources) easily (sextile) accessing Mars (threatens) in Virgo (service) in 7th (partners) who squares (blocks) Moon (the People and women) in Sagittarius and 9th (freedom to expand).

    Mayor Zimmer also has Moon in Sagittarius but it is her natal Nessus (9+ Gemini) opposite his theoretical degree for Moon in Sagittarius, both activated by the November solar eclipse Chiron (9+ Pisces) square, and as well, the eclipse Juno (equal partners or else) at 9+ Aquarius (and square eclipse nodes and Mercury in Scorpio) which trines her Nessus (I’ll get even with you) that makes it so plausible.

    Zimmer’s Nessus is in Christie’s theoretical 3rd house of communication (the media) hypothetically ruled by Venus (Taurus on cusp) in Libra (conjunct the Port Authority’s north node) in Christie’s hypothetical 8th house of shared resources. Exhausting but also exhilarating. My kind of sport!

  195. Helen says:

    Has anybody read that Steve Becklow who runs the Golden Age of Gaia has made the FBI list?

    Wow – chilling…..

    BTW: his response to this is excellent:

  196. alex says:

    Francis & Lorrie

    I’ll have to do more work on Jeb’s chart using his Capricorn Moon conj USA Pluto – the transits and aspects during 2014 to 2016 election $ 2017 Inauguration looking for strengths and weaknesses what he brings to the table that is challenging for democrats and toxic for the public; fairly simple to image the media/noise and the campaigns if it’s Bush vs Clinton; maybe barbk will take an interest in Jeb and shed some of her insight;

    Lorrie, at this point what it really comes down to is a simple premise ‘rigging the economy’ the Corporate Court rigging the economy for the plutocracy/oligarchy and making it more difficult for democracy THEN the NSA/DOD/CIA (they all work together) to do the same…..

    of course the GOP/TEA/LIBERATRIAN/NEOCONS arne’t representing anyone or governing for anyone they are ‘rigging the economy’ for the plutocracy/oligarchy…and making it more difficult for democracy by using obstruction, misinformation, and misdirection and delays;

  197. Noelle says:

    BarbK, I enjoy seeing how you put the pieces together. Thanks.

  198. Lorrie U says:

    Helen – Wow! Just wow!

  199. Lorrie U says:

    Alex – I remember reading some astrologer saying that 2012 was Jeb’s chance and that 2016 was not for him.

  200. fierywoman says:

    The “research” agencies (FBI, CIA, DARPA. etc etc and so forth) all check out the woo-woo sites — I’m sure this site is under watch too.
    A friend who used to run a site on the mythological view of contemporary culture (subtitled “All the Muse that’s fit to print” !!!) could see she was being observed by DARPA.

  201. fierywoman says:

    BTW, my own private giggle: the NJ woman who SWEARS she never told Mayor Zimmer to allow the project to go forward in Hoboken in order to get Sandy funds, her name is Guadagno

    which in Italian

    means …
    ” earnings or profit”

  202. alex says:

    GOP annonunced that they will hold their nominating convention in June 2016 ( EARLY so they don’t have long primary fights to damage each other)

    Sunday Acceptance Speech: (they have not yet given a date in June)

    SU 5TH – Sun @13 Gemini, Venus @14 Gemini

    SU 12TH – Sun @21 Gemini, Venus @22 Gemini

    SU 19TH – Sun @28 Gemini, Venus @01 Cancer

    SU 26TH – Sun @04 Cancer, Venus @10 Cancer

    Astrologers, what date do you think GOP will pick?

    State, Cities under consideration:

    AZ, phoenix
    CO, denver
    OH, Columbus
    MO, Kansas City
    NV, Las Vegas

    same question: what city/state will they pick?

  203. kiwi says:

    great posts all!!! ….. have been off the grid for a few days. Hopefully will have more time next week to comment

  204. Patty says:

    Nancy, Thank you for this magical gathering place. Terrific post and links.
    Alex, do you study the Democratic Party’s Chart? How’s Venus doing there?
    The following, 1-1/2 Minute, amusing little cartoon ‘makes fun of the truth’ but shows what the GOP lacks. So, I was thinking…What is it..the Democrats have..the other guys don’t have? *WOMEN* Lots of women who have Heart. If the Dems could harness that power…wow, imagine what we could do!

  205. pisca says:

    If anyone is looking into Jeb’s chart/transits, you might consider that his son, George III, is running for TX Land Commissioner this year. Groomed by Karl Rove, he faces one measly challenger in the GOP primary in March. One Dem, 2 Libertarians and one Green Party candidates are also running for this seat. The general election is Nov. 4, 2014.

  206. Jackson says:

    Is that George Prescott “Lawn Job” Bush?

  207. barbk says:

    Yeah, somebody’s trying to tell us something.

  208. alex says:


    I don’t use the D or R party charts ( I practiced with them years ago) I don’t find them relevant; the identity and mission/ of the Dem-party has changed several times; the swearing-in charts, election charts, primary charts, natal charts narrates the story for each election;

    I’ve also almost forsaken the election night chart as well because there is so much election fraud, covert computer theft, voter discrimination etc…. it is now the last chart I weight for analysis after I check everything else that is relevant;

  209. alex says:

    Excerpt Email – Food Democracy Now

    A Canadian firm has created a new GMO apple, using a new “gene silencing” technique that could interfere with the expression of genes in humans, even silencing vital human genes, potentially causing serious health problems.

    Right now, the Obama administration is considering the approval of the world’s first genetically engineered apple, known as the ‘Arctic Apple’ which has been engineered to silence the natural browning enzyme that may help apples fight disease and pests.

    Currently, the Canadian firm, Okanagan Specialty Fruits, is hoping its GMO apple, will be approved for Golden Delicious and Granny Smith varieties, despite the fact that it faces stiff opposition from consumers, apple growers and some of the nation’s leading apple growing associations.

    Apple growers fear the real likelihood that approving an unlabeled GMO apple will be the Kiss of Death for foreign exports and consumer rejection in the U.S., and that organic and conventional apple orchards will face genetic contamination from Okanagan’s GMO Arctic apple pollen, which will be difficult, if not impossible to control.

    Tell the USDA to stop Biotech’s new GMO Kiss of Death Apple, which if approved will appear on the shelves in 2013 unlabeled and essentially unregulated.

    If approved, this new GMO apple will appear on shelves as early as the end of 2014 and will be unlabeled and unregulated, since the agency responsible for its approval, the USDA, is not required to look into the health impacts of this new technology, but rather the possibility that the new genetically engineered fruit simply poses a “plant pest risk” for other crops.

    According to Chemical & Engineering News, “no [genetically engineered] crop has ever been denied deregulation”, but we need your help today to let the Obama administration know that you won’t accept GMO apples on the market.

    Alarmingly, Okanagan Specialty Fruits is also working on getting GMO cherries, peaches and pears onto the market if the USDA approves their new GMO apples.

    Even worse than the silly cosmetic artificial genetic alteration of the GMO apple, is the new genetic engineering technique, known as RNA interference (RNAi), which has undergone no rigorous safety assessments and rightfully has scientists concerned about serious unpredictable environmental and human health food safety risks.

    Recent scientific studies have shown that double stranded RNA (dsRNA) used in RNA can remain intact through the digestive process, enter the bloodstream and cells and effect gene expression in ways that have not been thoroughly investigated.

    While the current fleet of approved GMO crops on the market have been created through in vitro DNA engineering, with most designed to create a new novel protein that expresses a desired trait (such as herbicide tolerance or insect resistance), a growing number of newly engineered crops, including the GMO ‘Arctic Apple’, are engineered to change their RNA content in order to regulate gene expression. In this process, RNAi manipulation turns off certain genes. In the GMO apple, the technique turns off/silences the gene responsible for creating the browning response known as oxidation when apples are left exposed to the air once their skin is broken.

  210. alex says:


    it would be challenge for Jeb Bush in the general election none-the-less from POV upcoming astrology and his own chart and transits he looks in to me…. until he says otherwise I’ll chart him in the mix;

    Two Bushes = Two Recessions, Three Wars: Why Jeb Will Never Be President

  211. barbk says:

    Finally! Tonight Rachel Maddow connected the dots between David Sampson-Port Authority- Gov. Christie-Mayor Zimmer. Not the actual story mind you, but at least she was able to make the point that Sampson is Chairman of the Port Authority for NY-NJ at the same time he is legally representing the Rockefeller Group, owners of the property in Hoboken that Christie wants Zimmer to choose to receive the approved development funds provided by the Port Authority. (I’m sure there’s a better way to say that!)

    Anyway, David Sampson was born 8/14/1939 in Newark and his Vesta (investments) trines Christie’s Venus. He has a Venus-Mercury and possibly the Moon conjunction at 14+ Leo that squares Mayor Zimmer’s Mars at 14+ Taurus.

    The common denominator is Earth grand trine between Christie’s Sun 13 Virgo 51, Zimmer’s Mars (14+ Taurus), Port Authority’s Juno (14+ Capricorn) and Sampson’s centaur Pholus also at 14+ Capricorn. Pholus was the centaur who opened the special wine without permission and it caused a bloody feud. Juno supports the dis-enfranchised (in this case property owners). I’m thinking that Sampson overstepped in some way. . maybe pushing Christie or Zimmer just a little too hard and then it all exploded. It triggered Zimmer’s Mars in Taurus (square Sampson’s Venus-Mercury in Leo) which had been triggered by the November Scorpio solar eclipse’s Saturn at 13 Scorpio 52 (opposite Zimmer Mars and square Sampson’s Venus-Mercury) and now the walls come tumblin’ down.

  212. Lorrie U says:

    Democrats accuse the governor (Christie) of being a bully today. In 1994, he played so hard against a fellow Republican that his own party threw him out of office and put her back in.

  213. will says:


    Re Christie beating up the mother-of-ten: evidently “old habits (do) die hard.”

  214. Anne's Aunt says:

    Y’all are so into oppositions! – democrats=good, repub. = bad. Yes, the political parties in the USA are based on opposition – two parties highly aware of each other. But the weakness of oppositions is that the parties are not aware of anything else!! The forest is lost in the trees. I agree that the opposition is “bad” but since I have many squares and a grand cardinal cross, I also see that opposition can be faced as a challenge not simply as an opposition but as a handle to evolving. Deep humanity can be found in dealing with squares. Too much adherence to one oppositional view point is rather blinding. Hope this adds to the conversation rather than annoys!

  215. Helen says:

    “The “research” agencies (FBI, CIA, DARPA. etc etc and so forth) all check out the woo-woo sites — I’m sure this site is under watch too.”

    fireywoman, that’s just it: I’m a babyboomer – I have a memory of the previous definition of ‘freedom’ which is not be be under constant surveillance. They want to make this the new normal and have people tout what you hear nowadays, “Well, I have nothing to hide”. Not just that, there are articles on watching your neighbor
    or work colleagues (sorry, I don’t have specifics).

    Many fear we are on the slippery slope of becoming like East Germany with the Stasi. Casting a wide net like this is not a good sign.

    Like the quote (paraphrasing): Oppression is when the people are afraid of the government. Freedom is when the goverment fears the people.

  216. will says:

    Anne’s Aunt,

    What you put forth certainly has merit. There is an entire school of thought that purports that we magnetize the very thing we most oppose or despise.

    I am personally of the belief that we still live in a world where relative good and certain evil still exist. That said, we seem to have a political scenario wherein one party appears to consistently embody the dark, greedy, repressive, sinister, “the-fix-is-in” kind of corrupt mentality and the other party reflects more humanity,tolerance, thoughtfulness and an appeal to our higher angels.

    I think it is probably a good thing to avoid directly engaging evil whenever possible so as not to let it drain our energy. But then there are times when we must face darkness squarely and fight it with vicious tenacity and deadly resolve.

  217. alex says:

    2014 nOVEMBER Elections (8 House Seats in Focus)

    AZ 2OND

    CA 17TH

    CO 6TH

    FL 13TH

    ID 2OND

    NY 19TH

    NV 3RD

    W.VA 3RD

  218. alex says:


    Re: George P. Bush III

    Despite an archaic-sounding title, the Texas Land Commissioner has real power in the state, managing billions of dollars of state assets and chairing nine boards whose responsibilities range from administering the Permanent School Fund to Texas’ public schools to guarding the state’s mineral rights and coasts.

    George III, is running for TX Land Commissioner this year. Groomed by Karl Rove, he faces one measly challenger in the GOP primary in March. One Dem, 2 Libertarians and one Green Party candidates are also running for this seat. The general election is Nov. 4, 2014.

  219. alex says:

    continued: G.P. Bush III
    DOB 4/24/1976, Houston Noon chart

    Water Incarnate Chart, Singleton Element Air, Pluto @09 Libra (polarizing, galvanizing point)

    Natal Sun @04 Taurus
    2014 Solar Arc Sun @12 Gemini

    Natal Mercury @24 Taurus
    Natal Saturn @26 Cancer, N/Mars @18 Cancer

    N/Venus @20 Aries
    N/ Prosperpina @20 Aries
    USA Chiron @20 Aries

    2014 Solar Arc Sun @12 Gemini
    Natal Neptune @13 Sagittarius

  220. fierywoman says:

    Helen, I’m a boomer too and came back to live in this country (after 12 years abroad) in 1991, longing for what I remembered as “freedom” from my 1950’s childhood. I’d been living in Mexico (under Lopez Portillo) and Italy, where I left just as the Fascists (Berlusconi’s party) were coming in to power. So when stuff started happening under GWB (the Prez, not the Bridge!) i recognized it very early.
    Angela Merkel has said that the NSA is like the Stasi (or worse).

  221. arbo says:

    Helen and fierywoman — Just one more thing…I’m a Boomer too, circa ’48. I remember when kids could take off in the morning and not show up again until right before the streetlamps came on. Parents didn’t give a thought to kidnappers or molesters or crazy people with guns. There was a lot of freedom for kids in those days. That’s true.

    At the same time, the effects of the McCarthy Trials and the Blacklist were taking hold. Maybe you’re too young to remember the Hollywood Ten, “I Led Three Lives,” “Masters of Deceit” and other fearmongering anti-Communist diatribes. J Edgar Hoover was in power for a very long time and he used his power shamelessly. Maybe you were sheltered from that stuff. But you must have eventually noticed Nixon…or heard about him, anyway.

    As Boomers, you might’ve been part of the ’60s rebellions, which were a reaction to not just the middle class lifestyles of the Boomers’ parents, but also to both Nixon and Johnson. And Hoover. On the other hand, Boomers were born up until 1964, so maybe this is all remote history to you.

    There was plenty of surveillance then, or there’d have been no need for the Freedom of Information Act, which was signed by Johnson in 1966. And he didn’t want to sign it, really. These things aren’t new, they’re battles that need to be fought over and over again because we keep forgetting about our history or never were aware of it in the first place.