The 113th Congress

For Congress watchers, angst is the new normal. Two-years of chronically stagnant “Do-Nothing” dysfunction is leading to fears of only worse to come. Already, there are rampant threats to trigger a global financial calamity by refusing to raise the debt ceiling. The Crazies are impervious to public opinion, rationality, and compromise.  Like the hostage takers that they are, they want their demands met or else.

Meanwhile, there are land mines waiting to go off in the birth chart for the 113th Congress, set to detonate throughout the two-year term. As Pluto (9Capricorn25) moves forward to repeatedly conjunct the Congress Midheaven (10Capricorn31) in 2013 and the Congress Sun (13Capricorn29) in 2014, epic and extreme power struggles are likely unfold.  This process will be augmented by the sudden, transformative, and revelatory events promised by transiting Uranus in square to Congress Midheaven, from April 2013 through February 2014, and square the Congress Sun twice in 2014.

Using a noon chart for Minority Leader of the House Nancy Pelosi, Mars is at 25Taurus58. Using a noon chart for Speaker of the House John Boehner, the Sun is at 25Scorpio01. These two will always manifest an aggressive contest of will due to the natal Sun opposition to Mars aspect between them. This angry pattern of conflict will be greatly heightened in 2013, however, by the very same Uranus and Pluto aspects to the Congress Midheaven. In other words, the Speaker’s Sun and the Minority Leader’s Mars stand in a minor hard aspect (semi-square or sesquiquadrate) to the Congress Midheaven (10Capricorn31) and, therefore the transiting Uranus and Pluto positions as well. 113thcongress

Moreover, the identical transits of the powerhouse planets, Uranus and Pluto, will set off President Obama’s Uranus (25Leo16) at the same time. Uranus gains prominence by being the chart ruler of the president’s Aquarius rising chart, as well as indicating his most progressive and forward-thinking instincts. Thus, the clashes going on in the House in 2013 would seem also to involve the most progressive and ground-breaking elements (Uranus) of the president’s agenda.

We are already in the midst of the first round of this partisan battle which will be most potent in January and most of February 2013.  The president is likely to be especially aggressive about pushing through his goals until February 7, due to the progressed Inaugural Moon moving to its exact square with natal Mars (20Aquarius13) in the first few weeks of the new term. In addition, the beneficial and expansive Jupiter station square to his natal Pluto (6Virgo59) will hold through February 19. With Nancy Pelosi also being particularly assertive and effective during this period due to transiting Uranus conjunct her natal Sun/converse obamaMars progression (5Aries53), as well as the Pluto sesquiquadrate to her Mars continuing to February 23, the first round may go to the Democrats. It is noteworthy that the Pluto transit to the Congress Midheaven, the progressed Moon square to Inaugural Mars, and the Uranus transit to Nancy Pelosi’s Sun all peak on or around February 7. Action in the administration and Congress is likely to be especially intense up to that point.

From April through December 2013, the conflict between Pelosi and Boehner seems to be almost ongoing, with Pluto sesquiquadrate Pelosi’s Mars and Uranus semisquare, while Pluto is semisquare Boehner’s Sun and Uranus is sesquiquadrate for much of the time. Pluto will cross the Congress Midheaven in May, June, November, and early December, perhaps focusing the clash more in the halls of Congress in those months than within any particular caucus.  Uranus will also quincunx Boehner’s Mars (11Virgo53) in May, June, July, and August, perhaps stiffening his spine in some as yet undetermined direction.

The most stressful and potentially paralyzed times for Congress during 2013 will come during the Saturn semisquare to natal Moon (25Virgo30) from February 17 to March 27, a time likely to bring great distress, and during the Saturn square to natal Mars (6Aquarius48) from May 4 through May 17 and again from August 13 through August 28 (hopefully a recess). It is doubtful much will be accomplished during these times and there is likely to be much blood on the carpet from this ongoing family feud.

It is quite possible the long Pluto station of early 2014 will bring us the cacophonous crescendo of this bitter partisan power struggle. Pluto stations not only on the Congress chart Sun (13Capricorn29), but quincunx Obama’s Sun (12Leo33) and opposite the US Sun (13Cancer19). One possibility is that a hyper-partisan Congress, incapable of getting anything done, begets an administration that takes more and more power unto itself in order to run the country and protect its interests. This would indicate more executive orders and other strategies for circumventing Congress, only deepening the viciousness of the partisan divide. It is also possible, and these are not mutually exclusive, that the wild events indicated by the grand cross in the spring of 2014 will create a power struggle with an outside enemy or natural catastrophe that will ignite the nation. No matter how it plays out, the early months of 2014 will be some of the most dramatic and transformative in US history. The ugly battles and tumult of 2013 will only be the prelude.


  1. will says:

    I’d like very much to see President Obama push his Executive powers to the extreme to break up the endless logger-jam in congress. My limited understanding is that at least for the first three years of his next administration, he doesn’t have much to lose if he throws his weight around. If anything, him doing so would probably be just the kick-in-the-pants both chambers of the congress need.

    On another note – I’m very proud of Minority Leader Pelosi. She seems to be masterful at getting the nitty-gritty done, no matter what. I’m glad she’s still in the game.

    Thank you for the forecast, Starlight – as always, great grist for the mill!

  2. Lorrie U says:

    Wanted to post this since I have to leave, will read new post later.

    Changing Financial Paradigms
    Why is it that a spiritually centered, bright person – even one who has learned the tools of manifesting – still struggles with creating financial abundance or security in this age of enlightenment?

    It is not coincidental that many awake beings have incarnated with this “issue.” In actuality, it is part of the shift.

    Whether they are indigo, ADD, artistic or simply have incarnated with a pattern that doesn’t fit society’s standard mold, many spiritual-human beings have conformed to the demands of the financial structure, hunkering down into unsatisfying jobs. Unfortunately, their spiritual desires to be true to themselves have given way to their human needs to survive.

    Patterns that are deeply woven into a worldly structure cannot be shifted by a chosen few, especially if the few submit to the system. To change a paradigm significantly we need the masses to create new energies. Fortunately, a mass of spiritual-human beings have incarnated with some very human patterns. From addictions to relationship problems to learning disabilities to health sensitivities to money issues, each of the significant challenges in the human patterning has been taken on by lightworkers to help heal them.

  3. Lorrie U says:

    What seems to be the problem we’re all having with posting today? Neptune?

  4. loyalurker says:

    Thank you Starlight. I’m so appreciative to get the big picture of how things are going to unfold energetically over the next two years….but UGH! The Congress seems to be ignoring the fact that they are standing in quicksand and the more contentious they become the deeper and faster they sink. I’m pretty much convinced that the reason the right is ignoring the collective cry for cooperation is that they are hell bent on creating a dysfunctional government so that private interests step into power more directly. They do want to drown our government in the bathtub or at least make it a subsidiary and servant to private corporate interests. So, why would they care what WE think? I can remember how that kept making a case that if government were run more like a corporation or business it would be so much more efficient. However they fail to point out that most big companies are not run democratically…they are dictatorships and there is no mechanism for shared power. This is the model that is dying even in business schools so that they are becoming more democratic in the truest sense of the word.

    A quick question –
    You said, ” moreover, the identical transits of the powerhouse planets, Uranus and Pluto, will set off President Obama’s Uranus (25Leo16) at the same time.” I’m not sure I’m understanding what you are saying. Transiting Uranus and Pluto are both in the first quadrant of their cardinal signs so how might they be connecting to Obama’s Pluto which is in the last quadrant of Leo? I must be missing something.

  5. clymela says:

    I have not yet completed reading this beautiful article on our current struggles but the bells are going off: Pelosi has Mars 25+Taurus;the Minority leader has Sun 25+Scorpio and Obama has Uranus 25+ Leo?? Good god!! No wonder there is no hope of peace. Having a preponderance of fixed planets I know that these old war horses will ever,ever give up. Okay I will now go take the shower I was preparing to take before I stopped by to see what was going on at this amazing clubhouse.I really need to pay more attention to these charts so that I am not so startled. If you cover this in more detail I apologize for interrupting anyone’s thoughts I just really needed to say something about this amazing line-up-feels like those images from Hollywood of huge armies riding and walking up to the line to fight IT to the end-jeez!!!!

  6. clymela says:

    typo-meant to write out “never, ever give up”. Sorry-told you that I got all excited.

  7. alex says:

    Nancy, brilliant write up for the 113th!

    Nancy Pelosi:

    …with Nancy Pelosi also being particularly assertive and effective during the Pluto sesquiquadrate to her Mars continuing to February 23, the first round may go to the Democrats

    Minor Aspect Sesquisquare aka sesquiquadrate:

    sesquisquare: a “mountain out of a mole-hill; the sesquisquare is a 135° angle (8° “orb” or less); it will reveal an area of frustration or disappointment;

    sesquisquare: need to develop some endurance, persistence and patience to avoid the overwhelming feelings of impatience and resentment; look at the nature of the planets involved.

    challenges, friction leading to action …

    an arc of 135 degrees, a “square-and-a-half”

  8. alex says:

    I don’t know if this will post or go to moderation but here goes:

    Nancy Pelosi

  9. Iris says:

    Hi loyalurker:

    I think Nancy is referring to the fact that both TPluto in Cap and TUranus in Aries are in an applying sesquiquadrate (135 degrees) to Obama’s NUranus at 25 Leo. A sesquiquadrate is a hard aspect consisting of both a square – 90 – and a semisquare – 45.

    Thank you, Starlight – I hadn’t picked up on this applying aspect to my own NPluto at 26 Leo.

  10. alex says:

    Two GOP House Representative ‘Young Guns’

    Eric Cantor – Majority GOP Leader

    IMHO they are rehearsing their act together – it will be long association… rumor has it that Cantor will eventually campaign for VA Senate seat…. I’d say he is also ambitious enough to aim higher than that;

    Kevin McCarthy – Majority Whip

    McCarthy: sun square uranus, pluto = his way or no way

    2013 Solar Arc Sun @13 Pisces
    Natal Uranus @14 Virgo (Natal Pluto @15 Virgo)

    Natal Mars @ 28 Virgo
    113TH Congress Moon @25 Virgo

    moon-mars conjunct = fight aspect

  11. clymela says:

    Another mistake-it is Boehner’s Sun at 25+Scorpio-I bet he really hates Nancy Pelosi and thinks that he can push her down and then that awful woman just keeps on keepin’ on-teehee I have Mars in Taurus-in his fall.. so what we lack in ambition we make up for in determination and grit.

  12. loyalurker says:

    Thank you Iris! I’m not familiar with sesquiquadrates and their significance, so that one went right over my head.
    What meaning will that have for your natal Pluto?

  13. alex says:

    sesquiquadrate: sesquisquare:

    begin with the briefest key word description, or narrative of the aspect, which is

    1) square + semi-square = 135 degrees

    2) put the aspect/any aspect into a familiar syntax of sentence grammar;

    challenges, friction leading to action – sesquisquare acting as a ‘verb’

    3) apply the aspect to various test charts and from historic precedent and;

    need for endurance, persistence and patience; avoid overwhelming feelings of impatience and resentment; conditions of mountain-out-of-a-molehill can prevail with this aspect;

    4) look at the nature of the planets involved in sesquisquare/ orany aspect

    challenges, friction leading to action

    USA Neptune @22 Virgo (Sibley Chart etc)

    waning sesquisquare (137 degrees)

    modern inauguration Ascendant @14 Taurus

    Sunday 1/20/ 2013 legal required to have oath of office by noon – ASCENDANT @14 Taurus

    Monday 1/21/2013 public inauguration ceremony

    per Mary Plumb

    The U.S. Sibly horoscope has Mars at 21º Gemini in the 7th house, square an elevated (closest to the 10th-house cusp) Neptune at 22º Virgo, sign of its detriment.

    (Neptune @22 Virgo) As a nation, we have a collective storyline that includes both nebulous (or ill-defined) actions or motivations, and a susceptibility to propaganda or seduction, side-by-side with a guileless belief in altruistic action.

    neptune-mars = propaganda

  14. starlight says:

    Tr Uranus will be sesquiquadrate Obama’s Uranus, 25 Leo, as will transiting Pluto, when they are both at 10 cardinal. It is a similar connection between Pelosi’s Mars, also at 25 fixed, and Boehner’s Sun, also at 25 fixed, with the transit to 10 cardinal from Pluto and Uranus this year.

  15. Cappy says:


    Thanks for describing the exact energies at work behind the 113th closed doors.

  16. Iris says:

    Hi loyalurker:

    It’s not an aspect I usually work with. My sense of it is that it is an internally challenging aspect on its way to an opposition. Opposition can frequently manifest by our projections onto others, but squares are about confronting our challenges internally. TPluto is squaring my NSun – asking me to tranform and burn away those qualities of my Sun sign/position that keep me from claiming my own power. As an Aries Sun, it means burning up my wanting to be domineering, quick-tempered, intolerant, hasty, arrogant, etc. It also means reclaiming my powers of courage, independence, living in the now and following my impulses. In other words, no more swallowing who I am until it erupts in anger. The sesquiquadrate just emphasizes this learning process and activates my natal Sun/Pluto sesquiquadrate. My NPluto in Leo again emphasizes reclaiming who I am as Leo is the ruler of the Sun. The areas of my life affected are my IC – foundations, home, family; Desc – partnerships and a weak spot for my NSun; and the 11th house – asking me to be who I am and follow my hopes and wishes without giving in to group think. Of course, my ASC and MC are also affected by TPluto – affecting my perception of the world and how I present myself in public.

    At least, this is what I see – what will manifest and who I will be after this year is still a mystery to me. TUranus is conjunct my NSun, and TNeptune is squaring my NMoon/Saturn conjunction. Whew. All of this peaks in 2013, so I am a little anxious.

  17. loyalurker says:

    Thanks Alex. Very helpful.:^)

  18. loyalurker says:

    Thank you Iris. That makes sense. I associate Pluto with the souls path in this lifetime which is all about personal growth and a deeply internal transformation. You’be got a lot of planetary activity tied into you Sun. I wish both you and Obama (and the rest of us) well in transforming out world in a way that is empowering for all.

  19. loyalurker says:

    Thanks Starlight. I’m just not accustomed to looking at sesquiquadrate aspects. Fascinating how it sets off so many people in power at this time, so I’m sure it is an important aspect.

  20. Robert says:

    Thank you Nancy. I regularly appreciate the benefit of your insight and analysis.
    Will, pushing executive power to the extreme seems very dangerous. Obama is very sophisticated but has a record of what I consider to be misuse of executive power in ways that set precedents that are unfortunate: torture, secret military courts, warrantless surveillance, putting the final nails in the coffin of Posse Comitatus, continued expansion of the Bush era Homeland Security and failure to pursue investigations of crimes such as torture. He has often not landed on the side of upholding core ideals and has seemed to favor increases of overt and covert institutional power.
    I would love to see congress hoist on their own petard and punished for their behaviour and self-interest. However, I am not convinced Obama will stand strong on just principle and not budge.

  21. that’s very inspiring reading such analysis of a political problems that don’t relate to you personally. im not a US citizen but my country also has a very interesting constelation right now, astrologically speaking…

  22. alex says:

    As Governor Rick Perry was preparing to run for the GOP presidential nomination, he pushed the legislature to approve a $5.4 billion budget cut in Texas education.

    His transparent goal was political, and simply to build upon a no tax reputation, which, unsurprisingly, came at the expense of school children.

    The consequences of such a funding reduction were easily predicted. According to the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board, Perry’s money slashing occurred just as an additional 84,000 new students were entering Texas’ public school system.

    School districts around the state were forced to reduce their operational expenses and had to fire 11,487 teachers and eliminate 15,000 staff positions.

  23. Ardy says:

    Nancy, thanks, as ever, for your insight.Now, left of centre question, what woman will the Pres nominate to a top job .. given that Susan Rice missed out … is there any possibility of a female Tresuary Sec … otherwise we’re down to an acting head of Finance at no. 10 then Sec of Labor.

  24. karen says:

    I had to digest your latest, Nancy. As usual, it led to an epiphany of sorts. (Thank YOU!) However, the push for fiscal austerity — a ruse to consolidate power — is directly linked to second-amendment rights. Cleverly, the Republicans staunchly defend our right to be armed, a pretense of personal power while working diligently to pull the rug out from under our feet. Yes, you can have guns, but health care? Social Security? No, instead you are requred to be gritty. Get up, pull your worn-out boots on, and work until you die at some substandard, ill paid job. Then, when it all crashes down on your head, too bad. You have a gun, do something with it.

  25. Noelle says:

    It’s nice to read a good news story. Thank you Sharon.

  26. will says:

    Yes Robert. I agree with all of the points you have made…although I am of the belief that PBO’s executive reaches are far more nuanced with extraordinarily rare situations in mind. But perhaps an intense series of even executive branch over-reach will be the very thing to galvanize a consensus in Congress.

    On another note, I think his pick of Chuck Hagel is brilliant. A Republican in that position will likely bring others in the GOP to a more moderate posture. His confirmation will also be a blistering reminder of the GOP intolerarance of gays. Good play!

  27. karen says:

    Anyone, Everyone…feel free to edit this out-going leter to the editor.

    The continuing press for fiscal austerity is puzzling, especially so since the result is further consolidation of wealth in the hands of few. Many equate the federal budget to personal household management. We must balance our budgets; therefore, the government must do the same. The comparison is faulty at best. Our budgets do not allow for a military. Nor do our budgets include subsidizing the fossil fuel industry, or bail-outs to banks considered “too big to fail.” These programs are held sacred, far more important than keeping trust with the American people through valuable safety-net programs.

    Concurrent to austerity measures is the exaggerated valuation of our second-amendment rights, and a perpetual boogey man intent upon taking them away. In other words, guns are our only remaining personal power. Our earning power, access to affordable healthcare, and other human essentials continue to be mercilessly stripped. Too social security, Medicaid, and Medicare are on the chopping block. Will we continue to give away our nation for the sake of keeping our guns? Or, will we pull back the curtain on what is truly being taken away?

  28. starlight says:

    Important perspective on why the Right doesn’t want Hagel in charge and a very useful article:

    My point is not that because the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have proved disastrous, war with Iran would too. Every war is different, and I wrote a whole book about how difficult it is to predict, on the basis of one conflict, how the next will turn out. But a Hagel nomination will ensure that when Obama officials discuss a third Middle Eastern war, the ghosts of Iraq and Afghanistan sit at the table. And while that won’t make American military action impossible, it will raise the bar.

    What the Republican foreign-policy establishment fears is that with Hagel as secretary of defense, it will be impossible for Obama to minimize the dangers of war with Iran, as George W. Bush minimized the dangers of war with Iraq.

  29. cappy says:


    Here is interesting article re prescription meds #1 cause of death, disability etc.

    Still looking for the snippet i quoted for the link you wished.

    This link has vital info…for instance 5 years of flu shots will 100% cause -reports indicate – Alzheimers.

  30. Nina says:

    Sesquiquadrates are integral to a yod – one of my favorite configurations. The yod is the Fickle Finger of Fate – two planets sextile to one another, both sesquiquadrate to a third. The third planet opposes the midpoint between the two sextile planets. In a yod, it seems like all of the energy of the two sextile planets finds a burst of expression in the place where the third planet resides.

    I often look back at dramatic events in my life and see that a transiting planet was at a yod point in my chart. It does seem to be a theme for me.

  31. clymela says:

    I didn’t use “prescription drugs” in my youth however I ended up in ICU after going to see my doctor for a medical statement regarding my long absence from work when I had the flu. Turned out that I had a screaming case of irregular heart beat,A-fib. I noticed nothing regarding this and it was only detected at the end of the visit because the machine refused to complete its run when i first went in-you know the blood pressure,temp,etc. Now i take several prescription drugs daily so that I don’t have a stroke or heart attack; as my doctor says when listening to my heart “there you are just fibbing away”. I am hoping that people aren’t too taken in by this article if they have life saving drugs in their daily life.I will also say that life does end in death by one means or another. Three of my grandparents were dead before 70 from heart problems I am thinking that I may pass that goal line because of the drugs that I use.

  32. alex says:

    I used preventative care and alternative health care most of my adult life; but when heart failure became an issue I began prescription medicines – they help ; I use both allopathic and naturopathic health care;

  33. clymela says:

    I had a Seventh Day Adventist doctor when Johnson was getting Medicare through as law. That doctor was so against Medicare and sounded much like this doctor. My doctor was very good and I learned much from him regarding diet and good health habits such as exercise,reducing the use of meat,etc. However he was also obviously to me a stand-up Republican and he did not offer his services on a sliding scale so that those of us who had little income could afford his services and there was no public plans to help us meet those costs-many people died needlessly because they could not afford medical attention nor the medicines that could have saved their lives-this was in the early 1960’s.
    The good doctor has wonderful information but he is slightly whacked telling folks that the medicines they need will kill them-this isn’t that simple.

  34. will says:


    So true – there are all kinds of TRULY WONDERFUL and HIGHLY EFFECTIVE prescription drugs. It is very dangerous to paint with broad strokes about this. There were a few rants in the last thread which essentially dissed and dismissed all SSRIs and psycho-pharmaceuticals. It is a huge disservice to do this as many of the drugs have helped to literally save millions of people’s lives. It is important to be able to have your critical thinking and ability to differentiate fully engaged when advising people to stop taking anything that “Big Pharama” produces. Yeah, their politics are horrible and they have made some big mistakes in the past – but when you apply real, observable, clean science to the efficacy of many of these drugs vs. the actual statistical downside, the benefits tip the scales overwhelmingly to the positive. You can sit around and watch television solicitations from ambulance-chasing legal firms for days; many of them are casting wide nets to snag someone out there who might have had an adverse reaction to one of these drugs – its how the whole class-action thing works – its a legal industry of playing the odds.

    If you are under a good doctor’s care and he/she has prescribed you a medicine that works, my advice is to keep taking it. End of story.

    Most of these horrific stories are entirely anecdotal stories which take on hysterical dimensions and are not at all based on empirical evidence of any kind.

  35. Sharon says:

    In line with what’s been said below, Cappy, I sure don’t buy that last thing about flu shots but I will look into it. I know too many people, e.g. my mother-in-law who is 91, who’s gotten years of flu shots and her mind is still very sharp…so 100%? Unless a study is replicated and is really substantial, I take it with a grain of….salt! But thank you for the link & I will read through the material.

  36. Sharon says:

    I don’t get it. I thought the Republicans were the pro-Israel, war-mongering group. Wouldn’t they like it if Obama couldn’t minimize the dangers of war with Iran? Or, has their fiscal responsibility overtaken their war-mongering?

  37. Sharon says:

    Welcome, and I’d like to hear more.

  38. Sharon says:

    Rick Perry is a jerk, Alex, and, although I try not to stereotype, I fear that Tea Partiers in general are idiots. There were some good discussions on DU that they are really anarchists more than libertarians.

    About the meds, I agree 100% that many do much good and they should be taken if needed. I know cases where people use alternative natural medicine and do really great, and other cases where it does not work at all (or just not nearly well enough). My attitude is do your research, be reasonable, and try your darndest to do without pharmaceuticals, unless your survival will be threatened long or short-term. In my own case, my genetic disposition is towards high LDL. Last exam a year ago, it had dropped enough and my HDL had gone up enough that my doc said, OK, I have reversed my position (for the last 5-6 yrs) that you need to be on medication. I think what helped was switching to cooked oat grouts (whole oats not steel cut) for breakfast–something about the high fiber content. Nothing else had really helped although red yeast rice once did, but only for a relatively short time. The last year, I have eaten more high-fat dairy than I usually do: sometimes whole milk in my coffee, a little more cheese & ice cream & low-fat cream cheese, etc. A few more eggs. If it’s gone up again I have to choose either austerity or meds or just keep looking for more natural means. I also am going to research what I’ve learned in the past few years regarding the density of the LDL. I believe low-density LDL (it has something to do with the size of the cholesterol globules) is not considered a problem among some researches even if the LDL is high. Anyone have any feedback on any of this, I’d appreciate hearing it.

    I saw “Silver Linings Playbook” yesterday. Definitely a Hollywood movie (a dramady) BUT it does give a good look into mental illness, the fact that many of us have it to some extent, even if non-diagnosed, and the fact that those who are diagnosed and have had extreme events are still not that different from us, and if they make the right choices and apply the right strategies (which includes taking meds), they CAN have more balanced and happy lives.

  39. will says:

    There is a brilliantly produced series on PBS called “A Different Way to Heal” that is hosted/narrated by Alan Alda. The program explores and challenges several modes of “alternative” healing. The findings may come as quite a shock to many here who are ardent believers in some of these methodologies.

    Much of what is “alternative” is based virtually entirely on “the placebo-effect” a.k.a. at times as “post-hypnotic suggestion” and the desire to believe. The entire field of chiropractic is vigorously challenged.

    There is a reason so many of us are living upwards of 30-years beyond what was normal at the turn of the 20th century….its called modern medicine and pharmacology no matter how much we try to convince ourselves otherwise.

    Watch the series at the following link – it should work.

  40. alex says:

    the hell you say :-)

    The cost of faking a foreclosure document continues to rise. Ten banks will now pay $8.5 billion to borrowers for so-called “robo-signing,” a fraudulent practice uncovered two years ago that sent the mortgage market into yet another tail-spin.

  41. Teresa Hill says:

    But the thing is, a lot of prescription medicine’s value is from the placebo effect.
    When they test drugs, they find an average of 30% of placebos produce a healing effect in the patients. An effective drug trial will only produce a small percentage more than the placebo. 35% 38%. That’s a win for a prescription over a placebo.

  42. alex says:

    the $$ amounts to for individuals/families is not enough to make them ‘whole’ again; after being criminally deceived, manipulated and betrayed but how often do you see regulation of corrupt bank practices squeeze that kind of rebate $$ across the board all major banks ( it’s still ongoing ) anyway it is the right direction;

  43. will says:

    And when a double-blind placebo trial is run – which is pretty much the reliable clinical test, the placebo effect is duly put in check.

  44. Lorrie U says:

    Thanks, cappy–great link!

  45. Lorrie U says:

    As I understand it, it is more dangerous to have low HDL than high LDL, so try to eat foods that increase HDL. My own solution which put my bloodwork in good proportion was chinese herbal medicine from my acupuncturist.

  46. Lorrie U says:

    Unfortunately, most people who start on pharmaceutical meds end up taking multiples of them. If you listen to the litany of side effects, you can kill yourself.

  47. Patty says:

    Thank you Nancy, I love reading your mundane political Astrology.

    Paul Krugman “Be Ready To Mint That Coin’

    “So if the 14th amendment solution — simply declaring that the debt ceiling is unconstitutional — isn’t workable, go with the coin.
    This still leaves the question of whose face goes on the coin — but that’s easy: John Boehner. Because without him and his colleagues, this wouldn’t be necessary”.

  48. will says:


    There are problems with everything in life and certainly with testing medicines – but would you like the suicide of someone on your conscience if you persuaded them to not take their anti-depressants or anti-psychotics because the double-blind-placebo test has some flaws?

    Its still the gold-standard.

  49. Lorrie U says:

    Black Seed – ‘The Remedy For Everything But Death’
    This humble, but immensely powerful seed, kills MRSA, heals the chemical weapon poisoned body, stimulates regeneration of the dying beta cells with the diabetic’s pancreas, and yet too few even know it exists.

    The seeds of the annual flowering plant, Nigella Sativa, have been prized for their healing properties since time immemorial. While frequently referred to among English-speaking cultures as Roman coriander, black sesame, black cumin*, black caraway and onion seed, it is known today primarily as black seed.

    The earliest record of its cultivation and use come from ancient Egypt. Black seed oil, in fact, was found in Egyptian pharoah Tutankhamun’s tomb, dating back to approximately 3,300 years ago.[i] In Arabic cultures, black cumin is so known as Habbatul barakah, meaning the “seed of blessing.” It is also believed that the Islamic prophet Mohammed said of it that it is “a remedy for all diseases except death.”

    The time, no doubt, has come for food, seeds, herbs, plants, sunlight, air, clean water, and yes, love, to assume once again their central place in medicine, which is to say, the art and science of facilitating self-healing within the human body. Failing this, the conventional medical system will crumble under the growing weight of its own corruption, ineptitude, and iatrogenic suffering (and subsequent financial liability) it causes. To the degree that it reforms itself, utilizing non-patented and non-patentable natural compounds with actual healing properties, a brighter future awaits on the horizon. To the degree that it fails, folks will learn to take back control over their health themselves, which is why black seed, and other food-medicines, hold the key to self-empowerment.

  50. Lorrie U says:

    * Black Cumin is available inexpensively as an essential oil at Rocky Mountain Oils:

  51. will says:

    Lorrie U,

    Black Seed: sign me up! I wonder if you can smoke it?

  52. Iris says:

    Let’s set fantasy scenarios aside. Making baseless claims, about me, does not add to the discussion.

    The double blind studies have some inherent flaws. They may be the best we have at the moment, but that does not preclude pointing out their shortcomings regarding the effects of placebo vs. medication in control groups.

  53. Cappy says:

    Lorrie …thanks so much,,,what a find…Mother Nature has the answer.

  54. fierywoman says:

    What’s BRILLIANT about Hagel is his very real personal military experience.

  55. fierywoman says:

    Lorrie U, you so often turn me on to the most wonderful info via this forum — mille grazie and a big *mwah* !!!

  56. fierywoman says:


  57. Iris says:

    Thanks for the heads up on this. Very interesting, on the website you linked to, one doctor was quoted as saying she recommends her patients grind it to use in place of pepper.

    Here’s a site that sells the seed:

  58. will says:

    We need to take responsibility for what we put into writing, Iris. For you to have rather capriciously back-handed and dis-credited what is state-of-the-art in western-science methodology was, well, shall we say, at the very least, ambitious – not at all a fantasy. Some people who take these life-saving drugs and experience unpleasant yet tolerable side-effect look for just -such rationales to terminate treatment. Not fantasy at all.

    And mother nature has some answers – but she makes some mighty mistakes. Cancer is mother-nature’s creation as well -and its a virus that has been around for millennia – long before Big Pharm, Big Oil and Big Chemical.

  59. alex says:

    Thanks Lorrie I am going to enjoy the placebo effect :-)

  60. alex says:

    that’s a great resource – thanks Iris

  61. alex says:

    excerpt email from Food Democracy Now .org:

    On January 10, family farmers will enter a courtroom in Washington DC to take part in the appeal of OSGATA vs Monsanto et al, a court case filed to protect farmers from genetic trespass by Monsanto’s GMO seed, which contaminates organic and non-GMO farmer’s crops and opens them up to abusive lawsuits by Monsanto.

    Since 1997, one year after the approval of Monsanto’s GMO Roundup Ready soybeans, the world’s leading chemical and biotech seed company admits to filing 150 lawsuits against America’s family farmers, while settling another 700 out of court for undisclosed amounts. During this time, Monsanto has investigated an average of more than 500 family farmers each year.

    Due to these aggressive lawsuits and investigations, Monsanto has created an atmosphere of fear in rural America and driven dozens of farmers into bankruptcy.

    At ‘Food Democracy Now’ we believe it’s time to end Monsanto’s campaign of fear and intimidation against America’s farmers!

    In March 2011, Food Democracy Now! joined the lawsuit Organic Seed Growers and Trade Association (OSGATA) et al v. Monsanto during the first round of plaintiffs, in what could be an historic lawsuit that protects family farmers and challenges the legitimacy of Monsanto’s patents on their genetically engineered (GMO) seeds and their right to sue farmers indiscriminately.

    The upcoming decision on the appeal of OSGATA vs Monsanto is a critical hurdle that the case must clear in order for it to move forward.

    Monsanto filed a motion to dismiss the case, which was heard in Federal District Court in New York City on January 31st, 2012. In February 2012, Federal Judge Naomi Buchwald ruled to dismiss the case, stating that the farmers lacked legal standing regarding the concerns over genetic contamination and resulting economic harm.

    In March 2012, Plaintiffs appealed the District Court’s decision to the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit, which scheduled oral argument in the case to be heard on January 10, 2013.

    Lawyers from the Public Patent Foundation, who are representing the farmers, have identified numerous reversible legal and factual errors committed by the judge, which they assert caused her to mistakenly dismiss the case.

  62. alex says:


    I have no experience with cholesterol management but Lorrie is correct and it is an important distinction; plus it is self empowering to understand the issue because you can work on increasing HDL;

  63. Lorrie U says:

    Awww, thanks. Blush…

  64. Lorrie U says:

    Another company to boycott:

    Wendy’s Franchise To Cut Employee Hours To Avoid Obamacare

  65. Lorrie U says:

    This one wants the entire republican/conservative/tea party/extremists population to disappear through whatever means they choose.

  66. Gypsi says:

    Not new news to me. And the mentally ill sleep on the street or at gun-owning relatives homes

  67. Gypsi says:

    war mongering and contributions from munitions mfgrs win

  68. Gypsi says:

    I’m with you Sharon.

    I’ve heard that shots cause autism, but generally they don’t.

    I took flu shots every year from 1992 to about 2009 – quit when they pushed the swine flu shot through so fast, and I am not afraid of alzheimers.

    And I used to wear contacts, and there was mercury in my solution. Absolutes no.

    Increase, yes, but shots are a SMALL amount of heavy metal contamination compared to environment in heavily polluted areas.

  69. Gypsi says:

    I’m going to agree with Lorrie. I took zoloft for about 3 months when my twins went “over the wall”. I spent the next 9 months getting off it safely.

    Next crisis, daughter lost a baby, I skipped the meds. There are people that need them, I’m not one. I even quit smoking without them, any of them… (I take zero prescriptions and will stay that way as long as possible)

  70. Gypsi says:

    I eat 3 eggs for breakfast every morning. I was so tickled to discover my cholesterol was 169, HDL good, LDL only a little elevated. Need free bloodwork? Apply for a life insurance policy from one of the big companies. I actually did want the life insurance, but it sure paid off applying…

  71. Gypsi says:

    Cancer is on the rise, quite probably due to an increased amount of Roundup in our food.

    And talk therapy, actually resolving issues, is often as beneficial or more beneficial than pills.

    Pills when necessary, but barring a genetic disorder causing severe depression, bipolar, etc., sometimes life hands us lemons. And “mother’s little helper” can kill us.

  72. Gypsi says:

    I want to see a chart on Monsanto – has anyone run one?

  73. Gypsi says:

    the Rapture! I can’t wait!

  74. fierywoman says:

    I’m with ya, babe!

  75. fierywoman says:

    Oh I’ve boycotted them for years since I learned the owner was against a woman’s right to choose … Anyway, pink slime doesn’t taste very good.

  76. Iris says:

    The article certainly seems to have struck a nerve with you, Will.

    Nowhere have I advocated for people to stop taking pharma drugs. I offered the link as an alternate perspective. Certainly anyone doing a Google search can find the article.

    If you have an issue with his conclusions, I suggest you take it up with him.

  77. Iris says:

    You’re welcome. I have tried their essential oils and like them very much.

  78. will says:

    I’m glad you clarified your position, Iris. There are vast writings and critiques on clinical trial protocols. But everyone else in the world wants our medicine. And we are living longer and better lives in spite of more pollution and toxins around us. We are statistically obese and riddled with food preservatives, alcoholism, addictions and guns. But older we get. Astonishing and counterintuitive. We must be doing something right……or else we are f——g vampires.

  79. mitzi says:

    Nancy, thank you for the reality check regarding the “motley crew”, that we shall all come to know as The 113th Congress!
    Can’t say I’m looking forward to it, thats for real sure!

  80. mitzi says:

    Two very interesting post-election articles on astrologer, Frederick Woodruff’s, ASTROINQUIRY site;
    “Post-Election Cogitation”, by Jonathan Tenney

    “Election 2012:”The Pluto in Capricorn Mindfuck”,
    by Frederick Woodruff –

  81. tetramorph says:

    Thanks, Nancy, for the excellent write-up.

    And thanks, mitzi, for the “The Pluto in Cap…” article. Really eye popping.

    Here’s one I found this morning on FB — It is a real mind-blower, and very much in line with the above article, and some other con-current discussions. I’m about half-way through, but I’d like to put it up anyway:
    “Dark Ecology – Searching for truth in a post-green world”

  82. clymela says:

    Will-you so often bring a huge shine of laughter into my day but on this issue,western medicine, you have supported me. I only wish that my grandmothers, both Capricorns, could have had access to the treatment and medicines that I have had-I would love to have had access to their knowledge and wisdom. So without any joking I thank you and I am sending love out to this community-we are discussing something that has deep roots and we are doing this with Light and Love-whoopee for all of us.

  83. Jackson says:

    Not a fast food customer, either, but keep in mind that this is one franchise, not the entire chain — although boycotting the corporation that runs the chain may put pressure on any retrograde franchisees to clean up their acts. In that case, you’ll also want to boycott Wendy’s sister chain, Arby’s.

  84. alex says:

    Thanks mitzi,

    I feel like we’ve just gone through the eye of a hurricane. One minute we are on the verge of being sucked back into the dark ages and the next we are catapulted into the realization that progress, an actual future, is unfolding and there will be no going back. It seems as though in the flash of a moment the tables have turned…a true enantiodromia… the powerful are looking discombobulated and scattered…the disenfranchised are looking strong…speaking with one collective life-affirming voice.

    Jonathan C. Tenney psychotherapist, astrologer

  85. alex says:

    The world only needs 30 billion dollars a year to eradicate the scourge of hunger

    How can we explain to people of good sense and good faith that it was not possible to find US$30 billion a year to enable 862 million hungry people to enjoy the most fundamental of human rights: the right to food and thus the right to life?

    It is resources of this order of magnitude that would make it possible definitely to lay to rest the specter of conflicts over food that are looming on the horizon.

    The structural solution to the problem of food security in the world lies in increasing production and productivity in the low-income, food-deficit countries.

    This called for “innovative and imaginative solutions”, including “partnership agreements … between countries that have financial resources, management capabilities and technologies and countries that have land, water and human resources”.

    The current world food crisis had already had “tragic political and social consequences in different countries” and could further “endanger world peace and security”, Dr Diouf said.

    But the crisis was in essence a “chronicle of disaster foretold”, he noted. Despite the World Food Summit’s solemn pledge in 1996 to halve world food hunger by 2015, resources to finance agricultural programmes in developing countries had not only failed to rise but decreased significantly since then.

  86. Lorrie U says:

    Will, our health care costs are so high because of all those obese people riddled with things from unhealthy choices. They pay no attention to their health for most of their life and then go running to doctors to fix them up with medicines and surgeries to make them healthy again, so the cycle continues.

  87. TJ says:

    I hope you are being facetious, Lorrie.

    Obesity is a complex problem, including corporate agri-businees subsidies and advertising, manipulation of the FDA food pyramids towards corporate profit, and exploitation of the poor with low pricing for fast food that research is now showing to be physically addictive. I’m not saying willpower and unhealthy choices don’t play a part, but take in the whole picture, too. Also, another study was released showing that people with BMI’s in the category labeled overweight live longer and healthier than those labeled underweight, normal or obese. Perhaps it’s time to reassess our judgements.

    Health care costs are high due to corporate greed and political intransigence, in my opinion, not from obese people. I lived in Canada for three years and was stunned by how wonderful their universal health care system is. Health care costs are a touchy subject for me because I have individual insurance, and my 2013 rates went up so much that my monthly premium is now more than my mortgage. This is pure craziness.

  88. Lorrie U says:

    I especially liked this from Post-Election Cogitation!

    “In my own astrological reflections I am noticing something brand new…a Mercury pivot…at the exact moment of the 2012 national elections when the grand Magus or Magician, Mercury’s image in the Tarot, at a moment of greatest power, absolute stillness, waved that magic wand. Time stopped…heaven and earth embraced…the door opened…and Mercury/Hermes turned and guided us like a flock of wild geese through that door and back onto a path that is actually going somewhere. Welcome to 2012, magic is afoot…and the times they have changed.”

  89. Lorrie U says:

    TJ – I am not being completely facetious. I understand all the other factors involved, but I know of so many people who completely ignore any attemtps to be informed and choose a healthy lifestyle until it’s too late and they completely turn themselves over to doctors to “fix” them. I’m not saying it’s just obese/overweight people, but people who pay no attention to their nutrition and what they are eating. The whole economy here in Tucson where there are so many retired people centers around sickness. Big pharma has a stranglehold on our politicians so we can’t look to them to fix the system. We have to take responsibility and reject the status quo and support alternative choices that have proven track records. They are there if we take the time to look.

  90. alex says:


    as far as increase in 2013 premium rates: don’t they have to decrease, stabilize or go lower when ACA goes into effect 2014?

    aren’t insurance companies taking advantage of the 2014 deadline to increase premiums before that date?

  91. Patty says:

    Dear Nancy, I was looking at Hagel’s Planets 10/4/46 and wonder…If his nomination goes though as Sec.of Defense, might that make him a probable Pub candidate for 2016? Democrats, it seems, like him very much.
    Has anyone here explored Hagel’s Chart?

  92. Lorrie U says:

    I saw that! It’s like the financial bigshots are really digging in their heels and gearing up for a full-out assault.

  93. Lorrie U says:

    How a Paranoid Schizophrenic Got a Gun — And Why He Is a Victim, Too

    A deeper look at Peter Jourdan’s life reveals the complicated interplay between mental illness, criminality and guns.

  94. Lorrie U says:

    “The situation wasn’t ideal — but there’s no easy way to care for an adult paranoid-schizophrenic who refuses medication.”

  95. Lunagardener says:

    Dang Jackson…I just survived the influenza of 2012, emerging from the experience with a major craving for an Arby’s Reuben of all things. I haven’t grabbed a sammi there in years! Thanks for that info..BTW Homeopathy rocks……I was on the verge of going to beg for an antibiotic, but after three days of homeopathic remedies, and a bit of ibuprofen for the pleurisy….I am back in the game and feeling normal for the first time since XMAs.

  96. TJ says:

    I live in the SF Bay Area, healthy compared to many parts of the country, so I don’t see that economy or the number of obese people you do in Tucson. I’m always surprised by people’s sizes when I visit the South or Midwest. Again, I agree some people have the attitude you cite; I just don’t think obesity is the cause of our high health care costs. If corporate interests wanted, they could focus on getting obesity down but instead agribusiness and big Pharma (as you note) pursue practices that drive obesity up. Health care is one-fifth of our economy.

  97. TJ says:

    I sure hope the ACA will bring rates down in 2014! I agree with you that insurance companies are likely jacking up rates this year to set a higher baseline for 2014. Until the ACA in 2014, an individual like me (over 55) pretty much has to hang on to whatever insurance they have because most companies turn down a new individual policy based on the age alone. And almost everyone over 55 has something that could be considered a pre-existing condition for denial. I checked into the ACA pool set up already, but you have to be uninsured for at least six months to participate.

  98. starlight says:

    Patty – I am looking at Hagel’s chart for my next article. I haven’t considered 2016 but will keep the idea in mind. I suppose much depends on how things go for him for the next few years.

  99. starlight says:

    What remedies did you take?

  100. Bob says:

    I don’t see where they have a case. They chose to accept the terms of the bailout – they could have chosen to go bankrupt instead.

    Transit Saturn is about to conjoin the bailout Venus , representing this slap in the face of their saviors. Progressed Moon, representative of the People, will soon square bailout Mars, perhaps coinciding with the People’s response (anger) if this goes forward. If it does and the court sides with the plaintiffs, it may stoke the Grand Cross in the spring of 2014 which will see correspondence with the bailout and Sibly charts.

    Even Nancy’s header is predictive.

  101. ScorpioX3 says:

    “Yes, you can have guns, but health care? Social Security? No, instead you are requred to be gritty. Get up, pull your worn-out boots on, and work until you die at some substandard, ill paid job. Then, when it all crashes down on your head, too bad. You have a gun, do something with it.”

    You hit the reality nail on the head, Karen. Brilliant.

  102. Bob says:

    Karen, I do not think I could improve your excellent direct and concise work.

  103. Bob says:

    As is the norm, this thread has so many informative and thought provoking posts. I humbly submit my contribution.

    With science already having a mountainous level (is that an oxymoron?) of things they cannot explain, and more being frequently added, is it really any wonder why they choose to ignore or pooh-pooh astrology. Their egos get in the way and they just can’t bring themselves to admit that they cannot explain the correspondence between transits or progressions to natal or progressed horoscopes with events that take place.

    On a more earthly note, some things science has given us the answers to.

  104. ScorpioX3 says:

    Damn ingrates are scared of Elizabeth Warren. They should be.

  105. Virginia says:

    I have my natal moon at 24+Taurus, my sun at 28+Taurus, natal Jupiter is 22+Scorpio, and natal Saturn and Pluto in early degrees of Leo. I wonder if I will be affected? :-)

  106. Virginia says:

    For a face on the coin, I vote for Cinderella’s fairy godmother, and bibbity-bobbety-boo instead of In God We Trust.

  107. Virginia says:

    The Rapture already happened. The only ones who qualified to ascend were a family of four in Idaho. They and their dog are gone.

  108. Virginia says:

    Garlic is a natural antibiotic. I used it recently for a sore tooth.

  109. Virginia says:

    ‘enantiodromia’ – oh boy, a new word! I’ve stuffed it and added it to my collection. Can hardly wait to use it. Thanks!

  110. alex says:

    Virginia, I skipped ‘enantiodromi’ until I have time & interest in looking up exact terms coined by Carl Jung;

    Tenney captured the collective feeling of mass consciousness going into final days before election…really well; statistics are one thing, Nate Silverman another; but weight of pass election thefts had the emotional edge for lots of us none-the-less;

  111. Gypsi says:

    Darn, I missed the news

  112. Gypsi says:

    What Did you take I caught cold last week and am not well yet.

  113. will says:


    I believe ego and dogmatic scientific rigidity can certainly get in the way of appreciating astrology. But I also believe there is a another level of awareness one needs to get to before he/she can appreciate astrology. To me its a combination of logic and divination – psychology and poetry. And truth be told, I know more than a few scientists who have great appreciation for astrology.

  114. mitzi says:

    OH GOD! That was SO Hilarious!!!

  115. Bob says:

    A second coin (Why can’t we have 2? It’s only make believe money.) could put Mad magazine’s Alfred E. Neuman with his “What – Me Worry” right where he belongs with the dueling pachyderm and Rocky Mountain Canary (above his ear on the Dec ’56 cover) on the flip side.

  116. Bob says:

    I wonder if Hillary has a serious medical/neurological condition which may not be public knowledge. Forgetting the square of transit Mars to natal Mars when she fell in 2009 (and transit Saturn exactly rising in the 2:18 am birth chart) transit Saturn was applying within 1 degree of a conjunction to her progressed Saturn-Neptune midpoint and transit Pluto was applying within 11 minutes of arc to her progressed Sun-Mercury midpoint. These last 2 aspects seem like they would be more applicable to a psychological event than to a physical one or perhaps to a soon to be received negative diagnosis.

    How many here have fallen or know somebody who has fallen with serious injuries twice in the last 3 1/2 years?

    The Wednesday referred to in the article would have been June 17, 2009, preceding her December 2010 and March 2011 statements announcing her decision to leave public office.

    In addition, Pluto stations direct on Sep 20th with a right ascension of 279°34. It will be conjunct Hillary’s progressed Sun at 279°29′, square Bill’s progressed Neptune at 189°02′ and square Chelsea’s progressed Moon-Saturn midpoint at 189°10′ and progressed Moon-Pluto midpoint at 189°45′. Chelsea’s progressed Moon will be 1°10′ from an exact conjunction to her progressed Pluto.

    The transits on Sep 20 also have ties to the Steve Kroft interview in Boston on Jan 26, 1992 at 11 am, EST ( I found the time in an excerpt on Google Books years ago but cannot find it now). The interview was shown on a special “60 Minutes” after the Super Bowl that same day. Transit Venus-Saturn midpoint will be on the Desc of that chart, square it’s Sun in right ascension and it’s Saturn in longitude while stationing transit Pluto will be square to the progressed MC of that chart.

    Could there be a separation or divorce for Bill and Hillary then? Another point squared by stationing Pluto then will be progressed Venus from their marriage chart at 189°27′. Neither will be in public office and there will be no campaigning to put them before the public and they might desire privacy for such an event.

  117. Lunagardener says:

    I took what I had on hand. sinus-Luyties #203 When the sinus infection set in. That seemed to clear that right up. Bioplasma cell salt combo for chills, fever. I am waiting on some new cough remedies from

  118. cappy says:

    Fascinating super sleuthing.

  119. cappy says:

    “AIG was bailed out in the first place because they were supposedly ‘too big to fail.
    Anti-trust laws are needed to break up these companies into “too small to give a darn.”
    We lost alot of banks over the last 2 decades to mergers and acquisitions and a million + jobs.
    Breaking up the banks and insurance companies like AIG would create millions of jobs, increase competition, remove the liability of too big to fail, and as with the breakup of ATT over 30years ago, help the companies and industry alike.”
    from above article…comments.

  120. starlight says:

    Try the sinus remedy for the cough. Sometimes that works. Those combination sinus remedies are great for the later stages of a cold.

  121. Noelle says:

    Starlight, I’ve heard a couple of times that the timing for the debt ceiling issue is Valentine’s Day and something else is St. Patrick’s Day. Is there any kind of a bump in the sky for PBO at either of those times?

    I’m assuming that all will be well until cherry blossom time. Is that correct?

  122. Diane L says:

    I have found a combination of Hyland’s #3 & Bronchial Cough very effective for helping get a good night’s sleep w/a cold.

  123. Noelle says:

    My “comment is awaiting moderation”/

  124. Francis says:

    I discovered that Richard Tarnas, author of Cosmos & Psyche has a wealth of youtube videos. I thoroughly enjoy his work and astrological perspective and was excited to find videos on some of his talks. If you like his book, check out his videos.

  125. Lisa L. Robinson says:

    Just when you think you have heard it all, along comes this spiritual gem of wisdom about the savage brutal gang rape of 23 year old Jyoti Singh Pandley and subsequent murder. That she shared “blame for her assault”. This by spiritual guru, Asargam Bapu. He stated to his followers last week that “guilt is not one-sided”. And that if Joyti had pleaded with her six-attackers in God’s name, and told them she was of the “weaker sex”, they would have relented”.

    Note to self: Remember these exact words if I am every being attacked and all will end well.

    This “genius” sounds like a Republican. The culture and history of India was very interesing and so intriging to me as a teenager, I always wanted to visit, now not so much. I guess I was reading the wrong books.

    May the memory of Joyti be the spark for much deeply needed change in the treatment of women world-wide.

  126. Noelle says:

    Lisa, when I heard those remarks I guess I just filed it under the theater of the absurd. I couldn’t even get angry, I’m sorry to say, because it was so stupid. God bless that poor woman but maybe something good will come from all of this. Looks like early spring uprising in India.

  127. TJ says:

    He’s described as a “A self-proclaimed spiritual guru from India” in Huffington Post. No true guru will call themselves a guru. What he said was reprehensible. I don’t think what one self-proclaimed person said is a cause for throwing out the great spiritual books. We see false and hypocritical religious leaders all the time in America, and India is no different. Everywhere there are people who confuse cultural beliefs for spiritual truths.

    May the memory of Jyoti raise awareness and effect change in violence against women in India and around the world.

  128. alex says:

    if you google search term ‘personal humidifiers’ bunch of retailers come up;

    since my heart meds have side effect for creating sinus congestion (nice fertile ground for sinus infections) I found a personal humidifier with a breathing mask; takes less than few minutes to clear up congestion;

    personal humidifiers don’t spray the whole room and make the walls damp;

    the one I found has automatic drying fan process after each use, it dries out inside the device to avoid mold growth within the humidifier;

    these are small devices good if you have allergies and asthma;

  129. Lorrie U says:

    Jack Lew To Be Nominated For Treasury Secretary By Obama: Report

  130. Lorrie U says:

    Joe Biden On Gun Group Meeting: ‘The President And I Are Determined To Take Action’

    Biden, according to the report, explained that “the president IS going to act.” The White House has determined that “executive action can be taken,” stated the Vice President. The specifics of that action have not yet been settled.

  131. Patty says:

    “May the memory of Joyti be the spark for much deeply needed change in the treatment of women world-wide”.
    Yes, and may Steubenville’s shame wake-up America!

  132. Lorrie U says:

    Millions Of Americans Renounced GOP In 2012, Says Gallup

    Interestingly, last year marked the sixth consecutive year that less than 30 percent of Americans identified as Republicans, reported Gallup. The data reaffirms recent findings by Think Progress asserting that Republicans were able to retake the House majority in 2010, and defend it in 2012, due mainly to ruthless gerrymandering of congressional districts.

    However, the Gallup poll heralds some good news for liberals. If this trend continues and Democratic-leaning voters increase by a few more percentage points over the next two years, Democrats will be nicely positioned to retake the House majority in the 2014 mid-term elections

  133. alex says:

    Which Women Might Run For President in 2016

    Hillary Clinton – D

    Susana Martinez – R

    Elizabeth Warren – D

    Kelly Ayotte – R

    Kirsten Gillibrand – D

    Cathy Rodgers – R

    Kamala Harris – D

    Condoleezza Rice – R

    Amy Klobuchar – D

    Nikki Haley – R

    Maggie Hassan – D

    Mary Fallin – R

    Jennifer Granholm – D

    Sarah Palin – R

    Lisa Murkowski – R

    Christine Gregoire – D

    Michele Bachmann – R

    Kristi Noem – R

    Pam Bondi – R

  134. Lisa L. Robinson says:

    Amen, Patty, amen.

  135. Lisa L. Robinson says:

    Noelle, I am so hoping for the uprising. Thankfully many protesters have burned effigies of him.

  136. fierywoman says:

    Thanks for the heads-up — BRILLIANT writing about the election !!! And such a joy to connect with some more wonderful astrologers.

  137. fierywoman says:

    There was mention in the woo-woo conspiracy theory world of perhaps brain tumor or brain cancer.

  138. fierywoman says:


  139. Lisa L. Robinson says:

    TJ, good points, thank-you I appreciate them. I was talking last night with a good friend from Bangladesh. He is leaving in a few days for his homeland to visit his father and he is very upset about the treatment of women in his culture as well. He called it a disregard of women as if women have no meaning.

    And you are spot-on about false and hypocritical religious leaders, everywhere. But what I can’t for the life of me understand, people who follow their so-called teachings. I spent more years than I’d like to admit, growing up in the Baptist church. (And boy of boy if that wasn’t a crazy trip!). But once I got older, it was crystal clear who was spiritual and who was “religious”. I am grateful to be on the spiritual path.

  140. Lisa L. Robinson says:

    Patty, I have to really breathe deep and do lots of yoga when I think about Penn State, Jerry Sandusky and Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett’s current shameful beyond disgraceful political bull-pucky. (I so want to type another word instead of bull-pucky but I won’t).

    So now Penn State football is now the victim?

  141. Sharon says:

    Jack Lew is an Orthodox Jew who observes the Sabbath (as I do) but he is not a rigid fanatic and autonomously decides whether the matter in front of him affects people in a life & death way which would merit taking action during those 24 hrs. I personally find observance to be a spiritual sanctuary that protects me from the cares of the world for 24 hrs and connects me to God (a period of time which we initiate with blessings on the lighting of candles, wine/grape juice & bread) and an enlightened practice. It is my discipline but I make intelligent choices about what merits breaking it.

    On another note, I had absolutely NO idea that India was SO chauvinistic in regard to women. It is pitiful.

  142. barbk says:

    Thanks Bob, I had a feeling there was more to this then what we’ve been told because of the Solar Eclipse on 11/13/12 which was in the same degree as her Mercury. Eclipses have such a long life in terms of their effects that if she stays in the media’s spotlight we could be hearing of further accidents. The Sabian Symbol for the eclipe at 21 Scorpio 56 is “Hunters Shooting Wild Ducks”. Dane Rudhyar writes that it is a symbol that stresses “the socialization of man’s primitave instincts according to a cultural ritual” which he sees as a “safety valve for emotional pressures in human beings in whom animal compulsions and biospheric values are still strong”.

    In early January 2014, Saturn will reach this degree and sextile the Sun, and then again in October, just after a total Lunar Eclipse at 15+ Aries. This eclipse will put the transiting Sun conjunct the U.S. natal Sibly Saturn which squares the U.S. natal Sun in Cancer. A T-square will be formed between the eclipsed Moon in Aries opposite the transiting Sun and US Saturn in Libra, squared by the U.S. Sun in Cancer. At that time Mercury will be retrograde starting in Scorpio and backing up into Libra, stationing one degree from being opposite the eclipsed Moon (and conjunct the Sun opposite the eclipse).

    During that time is when Saturn will be conjunct Hillary’s Scorpio Mercury (and the 2012 solar eclipse) and Uranus will be retrograde at 14+ Aries so conjunct the eclipsed Moon. Here is something I find most intriguing. At the eclipse there is a grand fire trine between Uranus and Moon in Aries, Jupiter in Leo and Mars in Sagittarius. Chiron will be in the picture too at 14 Pisces retrograde so he will square Mars.

    Later in October 2014 there is a partial solar eclipse at 0 Scorpio very near Hillary’s Sun, but Saturn will have moved to the next degree past her Mercury. However, if she were to be a candidate running for some office at this time, it might activate this recent medical condition (and the solar eclipse of 2012 conjunct her Mercury) because of the stress of campaigning.

  143. Duchess of Gadsden says:

    The site also repeats the nonsense about vaccines and autism. I don’t think it’s a remotely reliable source.

  144. Duchess of Gadsden says:

    Interesting list, although rather flawed in several ways.

    Condi Rice is never going to run for President. She has zero experience in elective politics and would last twenty minutes at best.

    Jennifer Granholm is completely ineligible to run as she was not born a citizen. She was born in Canada. That’s not even a piece of obscure knowledge, so someone compiling the list really ought to be aware of that.

    It’s my personal opinion that Hillary Clinton won’t run, and it’s just a happy fantasy on the part of those who think so.

    Sarah Palin won’t run again. Are they kidding?

    Susana Martinez will certainly look into it, but she’s not really ready for prime time. I live in New Mexico, and she’s at best a mediocre governor.

    Many of the rest are possibilities. It will be interesting to see how things play out in four years. I would just love to see Nancy’s take on those various names.

  145. alex says:

    could Granholm be V.P. as Canadian born?

    I just took the list from the slide show at the URL …. I think the D’s have a good bench!

  146. Gypsi says:

    I am beginning to suspect, as I did when I was in high school, that participation in high school football does not necessarily bring out the best in humans. Nor apparently does it higher up.

  147. Gypsi says:

    yeah right. Ok, 1 woman per 10 men in India. Give all the women guns. Teach them to shoot. Teach the men to plead to god they are the weaker sex.

  148. Lisa L. Robinson says:

    Gypsi, you are a hero to me. I have read many of your posts and you are so self-reliant, independent and very strong willed. Anyone who works with bees and not be afraid is beyond me. I have a very tough time when I am working in my garden because for unknown reasons to me, I am deathly afraid of them. But that is the reason I garden, to overcome my fears of them. I continually repeat my mantra to myself “the bees are my friend, the bees are friend”.

    Any helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated in conquering my fear of bees. The buzzing sound puts me in a tizzy. Hard to believe I earned a black belt in tae kwon do and loved sparring with the guys, especially the really big strong guys but little bees, forget about it. I will run screaming for my life. Life! Go figure.

  149. will says:


    The manner in which you describe your relationship with your spirituality and with Judaism is quite beautiful. I am glad you have created this inviolate 24-hour period of sanctuary for your soul. To my mind, it is precisely this kind of practice which, when observed on a mass level, has the potential to raise all of human consciousness.


  150. Gypsi says:

    not being troubled by bees outdoors, in a nutshell.
    If you see a lot of bees going in and out of an opening in the ground, a house, a shed, call a local beekeeper, do not investigate yourself. Some will charge to remove them, new beekeepers will often remove them just to have the bees.

    Don’t wear black or red in the garden – not as critical in the garden as near a hive, but bees see red as black, and they see black as BEAR. Bears eat bees, bees sting black.

    Don’t wear perfumes or colognes outdoors whether woods or gardening, some scents draw every bee for miles.

    don’t eat a banana just before going outdoors. Bee Alarm pheromone, the smell that says “the hive is under attack” smells just like bananas.

    Watch where you put your hand. Water gardens in summer are covered with bees, I’ve grabbed a plant with a bee on it a couple of times, before I got bees. They do sting when squished…

  151. Sharon says:

    Thank you, Will. There is always room to strengthen focus, intention and purity, no matter what the practice. The little that I do just fits into my life after approximately 10-12 straight years of doing it. I would actually LOVE to integrate more daily meditation in a spiritual way (non-denominational)–I think it would do wonders for me. I have always believed that religion is beautiful in any form as long as it’s spiritual, tolerent, forgiving, accepting, human. I’m like the guy in Life of Pi (and all of us here)…I love spirituality in all of its “higher” forms, including the true essence of the world’s religions. I think my studies of Buddhism and Taoism in my late teens and early 20s really informed my spirituality in the best way possible. Namaste to everyone here…Sharon

  152. Lisa L. Robinson says:

    Gypsi, thanks very much, especially the info about the bananas. I have painfully learned about the sting squishing part.

  153. Virginia says:

    Lots of good information – thanks! I learned about not wearing red after a rooster pecked me for it. I am not afraid of bees, but I wouldn’t like to get stung. One of the first home remedies I learned was to make a paste of water and baking soda to put on a bee-sting. I believe in making friends with what ever is in my garden and I always tell the bees and other critters I am coming so they can withdraw.

  154. alex says:

    President Barack Obama is expected to nominate Jacob Lew as Treasury secretary later today:


    Historians may well conclude that the two recent Treasury secretaries from Goldman Sachs, Robert Rubin and Henry Paulson, bear much of the blame for a financial services industry that went rogue and caused the worst financial crisis in generations.

    There is a myth that Wall Streeters make the best Treasury secretaries because they can talk the talk. Not only do Rubin and Paulson provide evidence to the contrary, but some of the most effective occupants of the post in recent history — such as John Connally or Lloyd Bentsen or James Baker (all, coincidentally, Texans) — had no experience in Wall Street or even any demonstrated economic expertise.

    In fact, there is no evident formula for what makes a good Treasury secretary. Two of the best, Baker and George Shultz, both of whom occupied several cabinet positions, showed that people who in general operate effectively in a political environment will make good heads of Treasury.

    Lew, on the other hand, worked on Eugene McCarthy’s presidential campaign in 1968 (yes, he was 12) and studied as an undergraduate at Carleton College under Paul Wellstone.

    In his early career on Capitol Hill, Lew worked for Tip O’Neill, the former speaker of the House who was a quintessentially partisan political animal but who struck some of the biggest bipartisan deals in Congress.

    Fourth, Lew is not Erskine Bowles, a deficit hawk and former Wall Streeter occasionally mentioned as a candidate for the post, or Roger Altman or one of the other Wall Street insiders whose names have surfaced as possible nominees.

    Jacob Lew has worked closely with the president as chief of staff and has his confidence. He is Obama’s man and will loyally help shape administration policy and follow it without keeping an eye out for a cushy Wall Street job after he leaves the post.

    This kind of loyalty is not something Obama could count on from some wealthy Wall Street banker seeking to cap his own career with the Treasury post.

    Lew’s nomination shows that the president has dialed back his team-of-rivals approach to the cabinet. Rather than make a splashy choice for Treasury, Obama has opted for a seasoned government veteran who can help him get the job done

  155. Asta says:

    An opposite opinion regarding Jack Lew. I for one am not happy with this pick amongst others.

  156. alex says:

    well I prefer a neocon get James Baker ( Florida chief of recount 2000) out of mothballs for the job sounds good to me!

  157. will says:

    Perhaps a promising breakthrough in HIV vaccine
    By Nathan Seppa

    January 3, 2013

    “Patients with HIV who get vaccinated with a disabled version of the virus can, in many cases, fight the real one to a draw. A new study shows that injecting heat-inactivated HIV can awaken immune protection in some patients, limiting their need for drugs for weeks or months. While the effects appear temporary, the approach might eventually lead to a way to control HIV over the long-term.”


  158. alex says:

    113TH Congress: minor asteroids

    Axis Opposition by Synastry

    AQUARIUS – egalitarianism – government in which people participate – democracy

    LEO – sovereign leadership

    Leo – Aquarius
    Natural Zodiac 5TH-11TH House

    113TH Congress Noon Chart

    Axis: is the field of interface, interplay between the powers of Congress and powers of executive office

    5TH House D’arrest @17 Leo – 11TH House Obama Natal ASC @18 AQ

    5TH House, D’arrest(obstruction, to stop) @17 Leo


    11TH House, Pres. Obama Natal Ascendant @18 Aquarius


    Axis: this is descriptive of GOP field of operation

    described by precedent G.W. Bush Ceres @10 AQ, D. Cheney Sun @10 AQ, and in the present GOP Paul Ryan Venus @10 AQ, Sun @09AQ

    11TH HOUSE, Dallas @10 Aquarius (extreme conservatism)


    5TH HOUSE, Circe @11 Leo (bias, only one way)

  159. Fe says:

    I had that same flu and used nasal flushes to keep the head clear, Boiron’s spongia 30c to alleviate the croupy cough, and something called “Cold and Sinus Blaster”, which has: horseradish root, echinacea, spilantes herb, blueberry, garlic, cayenne fruit, olive leaf, horehound herb, licorice root, peppermint oil, wild cherry bark, fresh osha root, andrographis herb, onion, and yarrow herb.

    The blaster did just that. But you really really need to get a full 8 hours sleep to get your body well while taking these natural remedies. They in fact, rely on your sleeping in order for the body to utilize the cures to best effect.

  160. Fe says:

    And get Olbas inhaler to keep your breathing clear!

  161. alex says:

    113TH Axis Opposition: 2OND HOUSE – 8TH House

    Midpoint Moon/Mars (fight) @29 Scorpio in 8TH House, 113th


    Hybris (hubris) @27 Taurus

    Mystic Rectangle Water, Earth elements: by synastry with axis

    113TH Congress Hybris @27 TA, 2nd House


    USA Mercury @24 CA, r (4TH House)
    (USA declaration chart, ‘the declaration document’ thirteen America colonies no longer part of British empire)


    USA Pluto @27 CP (10TH House)
    (USA declaration chart document ‘Independence, American colonies are a sovereign nation/power)


    113TH Congress midpoint MO/MA @29 SC, 8TH House

    Mystic Rectangle

    This consists of four planets connected in a rectangle of two squares and two trines, together with two oppositions connecting the opposite planets. Despite the name there is nothing mystical about this pattern. The combination of tense and harmonious aspects produces the best possible potential for the constructive use of natural talents.

  162. alex says:


    Fire Cider similar to Sinus Blaster

    Fire Cider

    1/2 cup chopped ginseng root, fresh or dried
    1/4 cup grated ginger root
    1/4 cup grated horseradish root
    1/8 cup chopped garlic
    Cayenne pepper
    Apple cider vinegar

  163. Lorrie U says:

    Something soothing for the animal lover’s soul instead of stupid politics…

    300 Cats, Yes. Craziness, No.

  164. clymela says:

    Lorrie u-this article is the most wonderful reading I have done in ages. I am so inspired. What a wonderful story and such a blessing in these days “of stupid politics”. What a wonderful idea you had to share it here-I have been sharing one-on-one and your idea just sends it up to a higher plane.
    I know how she is able to have all the cats at home-we have six and already I am thinking that having young cats like our two at four months is the best way to help the older cats stay young at heart.
    By the way-back to Neptune. My Neptune in the 6th is fairly well placed ( a little argument between Venus in Taurus and Neptune over my love of luxury….) reading this article today I realized that my love of animals is a spiritual gift-I was happy to realize that my approach to mind bending paper to file in my career as a welfare/social worker as a spiritual exercise was not as far as the Neptune in the 6th house goes-that placement refers to my love of animals all my life and my talent as a child with animals that adults feared is also a gift from Neptune.
    Thank you for sharing.

  165. Lorrie U says:

    The Jack Lew You Don’t Know

    The bottom line: The budgetary smarts of Jack Lew, the likely next treasury secretary, may serve him well in global financial negotiations.

  166. Lorrie U says:

    I’m not surprised you found inspiration in this story, Clymela. Yes, our love for the animals makes us much better as spiritual beings.

  167. alex says:

    Want to be part of the conversation as our next chapter begins?

    Say you’re in and we’ll follow up with ways to participate.

    The impetus for this conference comes from you. In November, we sent a survey asking you about your campaign experience and where you’d like our movement to go from here.

    More than a million people responded. In fact, four out of five survey respondents said they’d like to continue to be involved and volunteer over the next four years.

    That’s an advantage that no previous president has enjoyed, and one that has the potential to reshape our politics for years to come

    Excerpt Email Jim Messina

  168. Lorrie U says:

    In 2007, Chuck Hagel brought up the idea of impeaching George Bush:

    Hagel Suggests Possibility Of Bush Impeachment: ‘He’s Not Accountable Anymore’

  169. Lisa L. Robinson says:

    Virginia: I know I shouldn’t laugh about the you wearing red and the rooster pecking you but I am. (But only a little). Sad to say but I have a strong British sense of humor. (Although I am not British). Sarcasm, self-deprecation and very Monthy Pythonish. But I do hope that you weren’t hurt by the pecking rooster. You also possess a wicked sense of humor yourself. One of your posts the other day was very funny. I think it was one about the rapture, hilarious.

    Gypsi: The worst bee sting I gotten to date (and I have gotten quite a few) was at a cook-out. I was enjoying the food and scooped up a spoonful of some delicious baked beans. As I was chewing my tongue was on fire and I was in a whole heap of pain. I had already swallowed some of the beans but quickly spit out the rest. I enjoy fiber in my diet as much as the next person but there on my plate was a half-eaten bee. Ugh!!! A young man who works at the grocery store I frequent told me that bees can sense fear. Is that true? Beacause if so, I am just gonna start wearing a big giant bulls-eye target to get the stings over with. Might as well “advertise”. And thanks so much for your advice. If I could just get over the buzzing sound.

  170. ArtCulturePeace says:

    Aloha Starlight & All,

    Warm wishes for 2013!

    re: 9-12% approval Congress…OMG…streeesssssfuuuullllll, eh? :-( Along w/obsessiveness, doesn’t Pluto also reflect the power of the “masses”…alongside the inversion of that, which are the Plutocrats? Clearly Capricorn will ultimately not stand for anything but integrity, eh?

    *Not only is congress itself meeting up with Pluto/Capricorn aspects, many of the Republicans including Rove, Limbaugh will be having direct contacts w/natal Sun as well, in close-in years, along w/ opposition to “W’s. natal Cancer sun & US Cancer Sun. It does sometimes feel that the Norquist contingent places itself against/opposite we-the-people-govt. with all that talk of “drowning govt. in a bathtub”. In other times/places what they’ve already done & are poised to do again (debt limit) would qualify as sedition or treason…in wanting to take-down the govt. from within the govt.

    *Been wondering whether the children who were massacred at SandyHook Elem were an opening ‘hello’ of a Piscean martyr generation who perhaps came to wake up the masses by their unconsciounable/violent/horrendous passings…for surely, this heinous event has seemed to finally awaken the country enough to begin solution-searching/implementation about nonviolent alternatives to guns, or at least “well-regulated” ‘militias’ inspite of the persistence of nra+ and amygdala-primitive-fear-driven folks who appear to idolize their guns more than their God.

    *Many blessings. Warm mahalo for such important info on this blog & among the folks here…E Ho’omaluhia me ka Honua!

  171. cappy says:

    Beautifully put, Iris:)

  172. Ardy says:

    I was very happy to hear Gov. Cuomo’s commments on guns. As a non-American I (and many, many others) can not get my head around the gun culture. I do understand the the U.S. is different lol and the obsession with guns will not go away, but I do see hope that some changes are on the way.

  173. ScorpioX3 says:

    As I said upthread – Damn ingrates are scared of Elizabeth Warren. They should be. Yay!

  174. Gypsi says:

    I think I like Hagel better for this

  175. Sharon says:

    That’s beautiful, Cly. I loved the story, too…thanks, Lorrie. Clymela & I are on FB together & she knows I post a lot of animal stuff. The worst is when I’m scrolling down & one of the animal groups posts news abour animal cruelty. I find it so very upsetting and I just now read about another one. It makes me grieve with all the fibers of my being, just as I do at any violence to helpless innocent beings children & animals. I am sick at the level of mental illness in this world and can only soldier on in the hope that we can create a 13th or 19th (or whatever it is) monkey effect and change things. It just hurts so much.

  176. Sharon says:

    I don’t want to mention what the incident was but if I did, I think you would all understand.

  177. tetramorph says:

    An entertaining video recapping the top science breakthroughs (Uranus!)of 2012:

  178. Francis says:

    the NRA gained 100,000 new members since Sandy Hook. Silly me, I actually thought its members might abandon the organization.

  179. Noelle says:

    Thanks Lorrie U. That’s reassuring.

  180. Noelle says:

    Sharon, when I hear animal cruelty stories come on the news on TV, I switch stations. I cannot listen nor look. It’s hard to imagineanyone wanting to hurt animals, children or the elderly but it happens all too often. I really thought things would start to get better. Maybe if we all concentrate on sending light where it is needed most we can bring about the 100 monkey effect.

  181. Stefanie says:

    Hi all. I was just talking with my dear friend Stephanie, a brilliant astrologer from Seattle. We were looking at the inauguration chart, etc. Here’s something extremely disturbing that I think we must note and somehow do something about: on Feb 18th, the day that Saturn goes retrograde, it stations 1 degree away from Joe Biden’s mars. Neptune is at 2pi42 within 4 minutes of squaring his uranus…and 29 minutes of squaring his ascendant. Because he is now the face of gun control and the gun nuts are already well beyond insane, this is really terrifying. It’s also President’s Day. Nancy – I remember that a few years ago you were able to get a message to the administration about something you saw in Obama’s transits that alarmed you. Is it possible to use the same connection to do this for Joe?

  182. karen says:

    This was beautiful, Lorrie. Like Clymela, Sharon, and Noelle, our family is extended. And yes, our human keepers clearly communicate what is they want or need. But, this wonderful woman has taken it a step beyond, exampling a world of possibilities.

  183. karen says:

    Francis, the local paper’s letters to the editor are reflecting this very thing. But, of course we know the pot is being stirred, and it’s very unhealthy. I shudder to think of the consequences.

  184. will says:

    Is it my imagination or are there an abundance of VOC moons this month? I seem to see a VOC every other day or so and they are lasting fairly long.

    Just musing.

  185. alex says:

    Hi Stepanie,

    Thank you for pointing out Joe Biden’s chart indications for 2/18; I agree JB’s risk needs to be assessed; I’ll work on it this afternoon, will post after I study a few charts; if other starlighter’s on the thread would ‘crowd source’ an examination of the transits to JB’s chart that would be helpful;

    I agree there is a risk ‘time frame’ set off by three events:

    a) T-square from Transiting Neptune to JB’s ASC and (UR @02 Gemini in natal 6th house of health)

    [ degree @02 Virgo in 9th house may have midpoint or contact from other event charts which would complete the T-square forming a Grand Cross (world stage) by synastry – – I’ll examine a number of charts to investigate if grand cross becomes a factor ]

    b)transiting saturn (self preservation) – natal mars (dynamic life energy)

    Transiting Saturn @11 Scorpio goes station retrograde cnj JB’s Natal Mars in 11TH house (original living and social context, goals, win or loss, happiness)

    c) FEB 23RD:

    the additional station in Feb of Mercury @19 Pisces cnj JB’s IC (nadir) is third event which may manifests the potentials and possibility of risk (safety, surety)

  186. TJ says:

    There’s no comparable, well-known, centralized organization for gun control/gun safety, so would we know if contributions for gun violence prevention went up as well? I know there’s the Brady Center, but it doesn’t have the NRA’s advertising, name-recognition, vote organizing or lobbying dollars.

  187. alex says:

    Gypsi, sometimes I wish Texas would secede but then space industry NASA facilities wouldn’t allow it ( or the big big corporations of TX)

    when Bush senior moved to Texas to drill for oil make his personal fortune ( was it Maine or Conn. that he came from?) it reminded me of the British nobility during the height of the British empire…. moving to Africa and to India etc to make their fortunes for Mother England and themselves from abundant natural resources with ‘third’ world culture, cheap labor ;

    my shorthand of Texas history is that after the Bush’s colonized Texas it’s been feudal colony for wealthy-elites ever since;

  188. kiwi says:

    Great comments all and Happy New Year!

    Speaking of the heavens and uranus inventions …… New years night here in NZ, and last week too, my husband and I saw very odd orange lights in the sky. Have been searching online and see many others around the globe have been seeing odd orange lights too.
    New year’s night I thought it might be space junk … but now after last week where there were 2 lights together I wonder if it is some sort of new flight technology, perhaps alternate energy, being tested through secret military r&d funding. In the 70’s when I lived on the west coast of the Big Island, Hawaii, I saw, from time to time, very odd ufo lights. On reflection over the years I am sure it must have been then new military technology.
    Has anyone seen these odd orange lights recently or have thoughts about them????

  189. alex says:

    certainly other than personal risk assessment; VP Joe Biden has a stake in the political negotiations for issues before the house of representatives and senate 113th congress and that is big part of these transiting highlights:

    Transiting Moon Nodes arrive @19 Scorpio Feb 24Th (day after mercury station retrogrades ) remaining that degree late Feb – early March

    the transiting nodes are

    opposing the 1/20/2013 Inauguration Moon @19 Taurus

    Mystic Rectangle by synastry, Inauguration Moon, Biden Natal Meridian MC-IC, Transiting Moon Nodes

    Inauguration Moon @19 Taurus


    J. Biden Natal IC (nadir) @19 Pisces
    Mercury SRX @19 Pisces


    Transiting Moon Nodes @19 Scorpio


    J. Biden Natal MC @19 Virgo

  190. starlight says:

    Biden has better planets than anyone for the coming year. I wouldn’t worry about him. He will be very popular over the next year to year and half. the Saturn station isn’t close enough to cause trouble. Don’t worry. :-)

  191. Sharon says:

    Interesting about the orange lights – could they be UFO related?

    I just noticed that Obama was invited by Boehner to do the SOTU speech on 2/12, Lincoln’s BD. A cursory glance showed lots of planets in Pisces that day as well as Sun & Venus in Aquarius (sun close to U.S. moon but not quite, I think). Should be an interesting date to analyze if he accepts on that day (how could he turn down Lincoln’s BD?).

  192. Stefanie says:

    I’m just concerned that the popularly is going to come from something bad happening to him. But if the transits on that day don’t look bad to you, I feel better.

  193. Stefanie says:

    That should be popularity-sick and typing in bed on ipad.

  194. alex says:

    Hi Nancy what orb do you use for eclipses;

    eclipse heightens energy that it contacts or suddenly releases ‘pent up’ stored, stuck, regressed, repressed energy;

    Joe Biden’s mars/life dynamic energy is as active or more so than ever which suggests that saturn will bring ‘rewards, results’ from taking life/career responsibilities;

    what popularity contacts are you seeing?

  195. alex says:

    excerpt email Debbie Wasserman Schultz,

    Republicans in Congress have already introduced several bills to limit a woman’s ability to make her own health decisions — all in the first 48 hours of the new session.

    Blatantly ignoring a clear message from voters in the 2012 elections, they hope to:

    — Block Planned Parenthood from receiving federal funds for family planning
    — Ban all abortions even in cases of rape and incest, and possibly go as far as banning some forms of birth control and in vitro fertilization
    — Repeal Obamacare

    We can stop these assaults on the health and lives of millions of women in this country by doing everything in our power to keep them from gaining support. But it won’t work unless you step up alongside others who believe in a woman’s right to control her own body.

    It’s easy to think that once we re-elected the President, our work was done. But the work we do now is critical to ensuring that damaging and offensive laws like these will never make it — and making sure Democrats are ready to beat these out-of-touch Republican candidates in the next election.

    We’ve got more work to do. I’m counting on you.


    Debbie Wasserman Schultz
    Democratic National Committee

  196. starlight says:

    Pr Venus square sun followed by progressed Venus square Venus. currently along with the Venus/Sun aspect, converse Venus conjunct North Node. For an eclipse, I use the maximum of a one-degree orb, preferably less.

  197. Bob says:

    Tried to work on Jill Biden’s chart but my energy level is low so I had to stop. I do see some possible difficulty’s in either her natal or progressed and their marriage chart, again natal or progressed, but not in their daughter’s chart (natal or progressed). No times – used noon and 10 am.

    Here are the dates and locations for Jill, the marriage, and their daughters birth. I will work on them again when I have recharged to try and get a workable time for Jill Biden.

    Jill Biden – Natal Chart
    Jun 5 1951, 12:00 pm, EDT +4:00
    Hammonton NJ 39°N38’11” 074°W48’10”

    Married NY Jun 17 1977 – Natal Chart
    Jun 17 1977, 10:00 am, EDT +4:00
    New York NY 40°N42’51” 074°W00’23”

    Jill and Joe’s Daughter
    Ashley – Natal Chart
    Jun 8 1981, 12:00 pm, EDT +4:00
    Wilmington DE 39°N44’45” 075°W32’49”

  198. Bob says:

    Joe’s sons from his first marriage.

    Beau Biden – Natal Chart
    Feb 3 1969, 12:00 pm, EST +5:00
    Wilmington DE 39°N44’45” 075°W32’49”

    Robert Biden – Natal Chart
    Feb 4 1970, 12:00 pm, EST +5:00
    Wilmington DE 39°N44’45” 075°W32’49”

  199. alex says:

    Thanks,,, half zzzzzzzzed

    there isn’t eclipse on Biden’s mars the discussion with Stepanie was about station retrograde oops

    Biden’s has well and surely earned his popularity

  200. alex says:


    This is first time I’ve looked at Jill Biden’s natal chart and my first impression (haven’t studied/examined her chart yet) is the Joe-Jill relationship pattern with saturn – mars

    Jill Biden Natal Mars @10 Gemini
    Joe Biden Natal Saturn @09 Gemini

    Transiting Saturn Retrograde Station 2/18/2013
    synchronicity – – collective attention with the station contacting Joe’s Mars

    T/SA station retrograde @11 Scorpio (2/18/2013)
    Joe Biden’s Mars @12 Scorpio

    notice the birth dates of his sons… one day apart one year apart:

    notice the birth date of his daughter three days after Jill Biden’s birthday:

    they do have strong celestial patterns:

    this is another pattern,

    Mars – Saturn, Jill Mars – Joe Saturn

    2/18/2013 Saturn Station Retrograde contacts Joe’s Mars

    wild quess here but there might be news of family relationship with this station retrograde;

    as I’ve said I haven’t studied the Biden family charts: literally only took one impression from Jill’s natal chart …… which means my first impression is about patterns, not prediction hence guessing involved;

    and guesses are off top of head, relationship pattern – relationship family news…. who knows maybe

    if I had gone onto studying the Biden family charts then I might have something to say about the station retro to Joe’s mars , as is it’s a coincidence maybe a synchronicity, simply something noticeable; not saying much in other words;

    the way I work with first impressions from chart is that I will use the first impression aspect pattern as the temporary polarizing, galvanizing point and go from there to study the chart(s)

  201. Kdez says:

    Yes, Karen – give that editor the short, punchy version you put in your post. Don’t gussy it up.

  202. angellight says:

    Hello everyone: wanted to share this gem of an audio teaching on thought and the mind; how to overcome worry and depression and also help others – It is worth watching and learning.

    The Power and Use of Thought by C. W. Leadbeater – Theosophical Society: via @youtube

  203. alex says:

    Interview with Joan Quigley 2000:

  204. cappy says:

    Thanks Alex.

    Time to email-call our Senators and Congress persons and start petitions!

  205. Francis says:

    Hi Will. Is the VOC Moon something you put much stock in? I would have thought that our President’s nomination and his last inauguration have proven it wrong? I know many astrologers give credence to VOC Moon, but it seems that its influence is spotty and unreliable, which I think disproves it. On the other hand, there is much in astrology that is consistent and reliable. Personally, I think we diminish the field by using measurements that objective observers can point to as something that disproves astrology, like sun sign predictions in newspapers.

  206. will says:


    Conversely, the President’s re-election during a VOC moon could very well support the oft-suggested notion that actions initiated during such a time would not amount to much visible change….as in a change in the status quo. And in the case of Romney’s losing this would certainly be the case. All of his millions and the huge contributions to his campaign led to his defeat during a VOC. In either case, one interpretation of a VOC moon does not etch its meaniing in stone for all astrology enthusiasts, huh?

  207. alex says:

    little more research of the news tells the story of the Joe-Jill charts:

    Joe Biden would have sought Jill’s opinion about running for president in 2016; he would need her 150% support to do so:

    if you use a noon chart (speculative) for Jill Biden you have both ASC-DEC axis and MC-IC meridian that relates/emphasized/connects to Joe Biden’s natal chart significantly;

    the temporary T-square from transiting Neptune @02 Pisces square Joe’s ASC and 6TH Uranus fits nicely into Jill Biden’s noon chart filling the entire western chart hemisphere both objective sector and subjective sector; irregardless of an exact birth time chart for Jill Biden this noon study chart shows that she is on board for a presidential run 2016:

    then if you place the transiting Saturn SRX contacting Joe Biden’s Natal Mars in Jill Biden’s 3rd house that is inconjunct her prominent natal Mars in Gemini; she is in sync with him, in step and the Saturn contact reaffirms their internal partnership agreement to take on more public service duties together;

    I believe this reveals their marriage and political partnership as a real relationship ( as if there was ever any doubt) that Jill Biden is not just a political supportive blind faith head bobooling ‘good-wife-poser’ at his elbow ( as if there was ever any doubt) and the Saturn RX builds structure in early 2013 to Joe’s chart shows how the wheels are turning in their two charts moving forward with plans of a candidacy campaign together for 2016;


    On Jan. 22, Biden and wife Jill will attend the Democratic National Committee meeting in Washington – rich with party “superdelegates” that could decide the 2016 nomination. An invitation to DNC members by DNC Secretary Alice Germond, obtained by Politix, notes that “On behalf of our Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz we are pleased to announce that Vice President Joe Biden and Dr. Jill Biden will be joining us for a celebratory reception immediately following the DNC General Session.”

    Neither Biden nor President Barack Obama attended the annual DNC event after taking office in January 2009. But Biden’s presence this time gives him an early jump on the 2016 contest.

    That’s because DNC members are automatic superdelegates to the 2016 Democratic convention. Unlike most convention delegates, the superdelegates are not selected based on the party primaries and caucuses. Instead, most of the superdelegates are seated automatically, based solely on their status as current or former party leaders and elected officials. Others are chosen during the primary season.

  208. Patty says:

    Thanks Alex, I so enjoyed reading that story.
    Joan Quigley must still be alive at 86.

    It’s ‘Political Astrology’, I think today, could become very popular.
    An Example: “Chris Christie’s “Virgo-Work-Ethic’ along with help from his Pluto/Mars, is most certainly invigorating his career”.

  209. Duchess of Gadsden says:

    No. Granholm could NOT be a V.P. because she can only be a V.P. if she’s eligible to become President, if that were to happen.

  210. alex says:

    thank you I’ve been in ‘brain freeze’ apparently