December’s Darkness

Once again, tragedy has struck America, this one so horrific that it is hard to even contemplate. Once again, we hear that a controversial subject forbidden by our craven political discourse has demanded a hearing and a bold response. Does anyone remember a mere seven weeks ago that this familiar refrain was heard after the horror of Hurricane Sandy? Then the verboten topic was climate change; today it is gun control.

Underneath this pathetic inability of a powerful nation to intelligently face its challenges, often stands an obscenely wealthy industry, armed with flush lobbyists and effectively-targeted propaganda, that will not tolerate the least interference with its profit motive. We live now in the time of Pluto in Capricorn, from 2008 through 2024. For those under its gaze, Pluto intensifies the drive for power to fanatical extremes. In Capricorn, Pluto pushes the manifestations of earthly power – both corporate and governmental – to an appalling overreach, leading inexorably to their demise. We have already seen several dictators fall thanks to the Arab Spring. We have seen such huge amounts of unregulated money pouring into the 2012 election that the voters revolted against the deluge. And we are beginning to see so much destruction and carnage and pain emanating from the corporate blockade of our political process – witness Sandy and Sandy Hook – that a backlash is forming.

But first we must clearly understand the process. An extremely prosperous industry – such as oil, gas, finance, or gun manufacturing – wants to continue to grow and maximize profits, unimpeded by regulation and undiminished by taxes. They donate gargantuan sums to help elect those who will be amenable to their goals, mostly Republicans. In addition, they support propaganda and the distributors of such propaganda (right-wing media) to rally a large swath of the electorate against intelligent action to deal with a significant problem. Voters’ fears of powerlessness and victimization are massaged relentlessly. They are told the government wants to steal their guns, take their hard-earned money through higher taxes, lie to them about the global warming “hoax”, take away their freedoms, discriminate against white Christians, install sharia law, or even allow the UN to rule the country. Terrified and angry about this crazed, paranoid narrative that has taken on the force of a collective delusional system, many voters vote against their best interests and for the agenda of the corporate behemoths. As of today, after the events in Newtown, Connecticut this week, the raw pain derived from some of this political paralysis is beginning to break through our frozen national discourse.

During the long reign of Pluto in Capricorn is a period during which Uranus is in Aries, from 2010 to 2018. Uranus in Aries points to the earliest imperatives seeding an 84-year cycle of human awakening, egalitarianism, and progressive, creative thought.  Within this Uranus in Aries period, from 2011 through mid-2015, Uranus is also in a square with Pluto, bringing these two transformational titans into a dynamic and confrontational relationship. On the one hand, people are pushing to break through barriers that have held them back and are coming to a greater understanding of a better path to the future (Uranus), and, on the other hand, the concentrated centers of earthly power are pushing more fiercely than ever to maintain and magnify their dominance (Pluto). Ultimately, the concentrated effort to dominate will overreach and implode, while the clarity of new awakening will break free of the chains that bind. Unfortunately, these moments of epiphany become increasingly painful in order to break through the collective somnolence and effectively marshal the energy needed for transformation.

In the US chart, the dynamic impact of the Uranus/Pluto square is beginning to be particularly potent. Since mid-September 2012, and peaking in September 2013, the progressed US Sun (8Pisces) has moved into a square with natal Uranus (8Gemini55). This aspect brings bracing, upsetting, and transformative events that serve to arouse the country to what needs to be done and what has hitherto been ignored. If the call is not heard, the next hammer blow will be even more distressing. Transiting Pluto in November and December 2012 and mid-July through late September 2013, is crossing 8 Capricorn; transiting Uranus in March 2013 and October through mid-November 2013 is crossing 8 Aries. Thus, the Uranus/Pluto square is also acting as a trigger for this highly agitating progressed aspect in the US chart. Moreover, transiting Saturn and transiting Jupiter, from 8 Scorpio and 8 Gemini, respectively, are also inciting this very volatile configuration, both of them in December 2012 and March 2013, and Saturn only in September 2013.

Thus, we are now in the first period of a multiple activation of the progressed Sun square to natal Uranus in the US chart.  We can expect a series of jarring, upsetting, and unexpected events that point us toward the changes we have avoided for way too long.  Although Pluto has been in a quincunx to natal US Uranus since November and continues through December 21, Saturn and Jupiter have now joined in and are ramping things up exponentially from December 13 through December 24. It is not impossible to imagine massive demonstrations developing over the next week to demand legislation to curb gun violence. Nor is it impossible to imagine further dramatic situations that agitate and disrupt, perhaps traumatically, but serve to stir up a normally lethargic population, too prone to be distracted or manipulated into fulfilling someone else’s agenda. Let us hope that this time, in this season, we can stay awake long enough to be effective in taking control of our lives, and that the wild, seemingly random circumstances that transpire will lead to greater cooperation and intelligent planning of the future.


  1. will says:


    Exquisite. Pedagogical. Poignant. Prescient.

    Godspeed, America.

  2. Salemone says:

    “greater cooperation and intelligent planning of the future.” From your lips to God’s ears.

    Thank you Nancy, for all you do here.

  3. Diane L says:

    so mote it be . . . great post!

  4. cappy says:

    Hopefully, this excellent, desperately needed discussion, will also include the immediate ending of all US Shadow Gov’ts current and future WARS =heinous crimes against humanity all — where children, parents, grandparents … of an invaded country are often murdered mindlessly as ‘collateral damage” in the safety of their homes, or crossing the street — the ‘survivors’ who find a distant refugee camp — later experience godawful deaths from disease, weather and starvation.


  5. cappy says:

    Nancy Starlight,

    Of all your truly brilliant astro insights and deeply heartfelt guidance…this i find the most hopeful…thanks so much for keeping all of us afloat.

    “During the long reign of Pluto in Capricorn is a period during which Uranus is in Aries, from 2010 to 2018. Uranus in Aries points to the earliest imperatives seeding an 84-year cycle of human awakening, egalitarianism, and progressive, creative thought. Within this Uranus in Aries period, from 2011 through mid-2015, Uranus is also in a square with Pluto, bringing these two transformational titans into a dynamic and confrontational relationship. On the one hand, people are pushing to break through barriers that have held them back and are coming to a greater understanding of a better path to the future (Uranus), and, on the other hand, the concentrated centers of earthly power are pushing more fiercely than ever to maintain and magnify their dominance (Pluto). Ultimately, the concentrated effort to dominate will overreach and implode, while the clarity of new awakening will break free of the chains that bind. Unfortunately, these moments of epiphany become increasingly painful in order to break through the collective somnolence and effectively marshal the energy needed for transformation.”

  6. Bob says:

    Thank you Nancy.

    I cannot properly focus on your post now but will read it again when I am more grounded. I feel washed out as though getting over a severe illness. Since first hearing about this horrific tragedy I am fluctuating between sadness and anger but staying more in the sad.

    After the sadness diminishes, I will focus the anger on promoting and backing gun control efforts in this country. There is no reason for the civilian population to have automatic weapons. In combat they are only useful in ground-fighting situations but cannot protect against mortar fire, law rockets, bombs, and other powerful, long range weapons used by military forces, be they American or foreign.

    My brain is on fire and I feel as though I am rambling but wanted to let some of this out. Thank you.

  7. Lisa L. Robinson says:

    Bob, I am experiencing the very same “symptons” as you with deep sadness winning. Be well and it is definitely okay to ramble and/or vent. I can’t stop thinking about all the children, everyone of them and their parents.

    Much peace to you. ~*Lisa*~

  8. ox the cat says:

    Brilliant. Thanks for all you do.

  9. karen says:


    I must add that in addition to legislation insisting on background checks, banning gun shows, and automatic weapons, we need to begin having a conversation about the delivery of mental health programs. (Also mentioned by other posters in the previous column.)

    Years ago my husband worked in a group home caring for several adults with a varying number of mental-health, and physical challenges. The home was corporate owned. Aides were compensated with minimum wage, a differential for night shift. Some aides were skilled, and suggested improvements for care or perhaps helpful programs, but those suggestions were often ignored given “budget” constraints. I bring this up because of our backward approach to genuine, helping care. For instance, was this young shooter under the care of anyone? If not, why not? Certainly there must have been loud, glaring signs.

    And Bob, like you, I am feeling physically sick, like I have a really bad hangover.

  10. M. says:

    “appalling overreach, leading inexorably to their demise”

    We saw an inkling of the demise of the GOP during the election. This morning, on UP, I heard that membership in the NRA has been diminishing steadily for the last 20 years.

  11. Stefanie says:

    Thank you, Nancy, for this wonderful post. I am hopeful that all the waking up that comes from the next few years of the Uranus/Pluto square brings as little loss of life and terror as possible. I fear that the dark forces, the stuck, those terrified of their own shadow (i.e. Republicans) will go out kicking and screaming, intent on dragging as many as possible down with them. As in, “If I can’t have all the money and power, NO ONE CAN HAVE ANYTHING.”

    The sadness is so overwhelming, so consuming. I can’t even imaigine what it must have been like for those parents to wake up this morning with empty children’s beds in their home. It’s a waking nightmare for them, I’m sure. To me this is a 9/11 level of collective mourning.

    Before the shooting, I’ve experienced the last few days as an eruption of violence starting early Thursday morning. At 2 am I was awakened by my new neighbor violently assaulting his girlfriend. It was awful, terrifying — and I felt totally helpless. I share a wall wiht them so my whole apartment was shaking. Eventually the police came, but he wasn’t arrested, and I don’t know what will become of that poor woman. There is nothing I can really do because I’m afraid for my own safety. It defintiely felt like Uranus going direct and exploding again toward the Pluto square. Then on Thursday night, my highly functioning autistic cousin had a seizure and had to go to the hospital. All the tests came back negative — we don’t know what’s going on. But it really threw me that the shooter is autistic, too. At some level these people, seemingly, are more sensitive to the energies and have no way to analyze it. It errupts in pure evil, as it did in Sandy Hook, and perhaps in physical symptoms as it did for my cousin. I know this probably sounds a little bit crazy, but I’m seeing a link here.

    Anyway, sending so much love to the community here. I know we’re all holding our loved ones a little closer and trying to avoid angry outbursts. I feel that it’s so important for us to reach out to those that are in pain, not like us, the ones who get bullied, the ones that tend to hide in corners. Those are the ones that scare us the most, forcing to look at our own unloved shadows — that’s why I think so many of us choose to ignore them. I wonder if one kid in the killer’s school had reached out to him, if one teacher, if one stranger on the street, dared to look past his crazy-looking eyes and said ” Are you okay?” I wonder if that would have made a difference.

  12. Patty says:

    Thank you, Nancy.
    Check out this chart, Number of Guns per 100 People:
    To say America has a ‘Gun-Problem’…is an understatement!

  13. chrys says:

    Here is a link to a petition to President Obama / White House calling for him to address gun control

  14. will says:


    For what its worth, I had tears running down my face intermittently as soon as I read the news on my cell-phone – I was in a Starbucks and I’m certain people thought I’d gone mad………..I kind of did. It was something I could not seem to control. I found myself telling store clerks, cashiers, servers……..and I made a point of declaring it before mass on Friday. And to be quite frank, about 3/4 of the people I shared with were barely fazed – even shrugged it off.

    I kind of think we had the correct emotional response.

  15. Stefanie says:

    There will be a march on Washington! Follow @million_kids on Twitter — it’s going to be called the “Million Kids March”. Nancy — your prediction is RIGHT ON.

  16. clymela says:

    Karen-this is the subject that sounds the loudest inside of me. I saw the death of the Great Society and then with Reagan the takeover by what Cappy likes to call the shadow government. I have watched while working folk grew poorer and less educated AND our society became increasingly violent through the games and the movies and the music.
    I think that only a deep and ponderous spiritual renewal will help us now. The Christian haters and screamers have revealed the depths of their mistake. I think that I am not the only one who was shocked by the words and thoughts of the so-called “Conservative Christians and i think therefore that we won’t be hearing from them so much.

  17. Bob says:

    Like you, Will, the tears came and still do intermittently as is true for many I am sure. Such a tragedy seems to have a stronger impact, if that is possible, during this, usually the happiest psychological time of year when families and friends are joyously gathering.

    We are all connected and we must help those with challenges such as Adam Lanza, whose challenges resulted him to act out as he did and spread their fruits to so many others in the world.

  18. connimac says:

    Starlight, I always look forward to you posts, but this one is simply OUTSTANDING. Something tells me that this mass shooting which took so many little innocents will shift the debate to the sane in America who will demand new gun safety laws. Uranus, Pluto, and TRANSFORMATION — you nailed it and it’s here!!! There was a wonderful panel on Chris Hayes’ UP (MSNBC) this a.m. with a powerful discussion about the need for new gun laws and more mental health resources that have been drying up, courtesy of the repubs. Thank you for this info packed post which I will read again and again. Also, for those who have mentioned great waves of sadness periodically overtaking them, just consider that it is your sensitivity to those suffering or about to suffer that you might be tuning into. You can then move that emotion along to be replaced with the vibrations of hope and courage which will help others who cannot dig their way out. The secret is to keep the emotions flowing until you can think and feel clearly again. Then you can take some positive action. Thanks again to you, Starlight, and to all the wonderful posters on this site — a resilient community for sure!

  19. clymela says:

    Nancy- thank you. I felt as though you wrote the story so that we could read it and be calmed by that. I was younger during the conjunction of Uranus and Pluto-I don’t remember feeling so violently shaken-the difference between conjunctions and squares i suppose and that I was so much younger.
    Thank you again-you have fulfilled the highest spiritual teacher role.

  20. Bob says:

    In reading my post above I see that my focus when posting about this was out of whack. The last sentence was edited but not completely. It should read ” … resulted in his acting out … ).

  21. Bob says:

    Thank you to all who shared their responses to this overwhelming tragedy by posting and to those who have not posted but share the same feelings in their hearts and minds. Reading the posts helps me by confirming that I am not alone in my sorrow.

  22. Francis says:

    Thank you Nancy, really terrific post. Will and Bob, you are both beautiful men, let your hearts shine and may they be a guide to others around you through the darkness.

  23. Gypsi says:

    Terrific article Starlight. You have called the timing with your
    Usual accuracy.
    No one needs an assault weapon. But when a mentally ill man injured
    an animal here, and I rescued her, I borrowed a weapon, kept it
    secured. And practiced time trials on how quickly I could have it out and loaded. I now own a gun. I live alone. Police are slow. Meth addiction is common, violent and unfortunately local.
    And violent mentally ill people are on the street in Texas, with relatives, friends or homeless.
    Until they kill someone and Texas executes them.
    But notice: wealthy young men are doing these shootings.
    Their parents could probably afford mental health services.

    Pride? Pretty costly pretending all is well.
    The poor here get outpatient care at mhmr. Mainly meds.
    Better than nothing I guess. My psycho stalker assaulted his mom,
    Got locked up and got help. Again.

  24. Cappy says:

    Wonderful — this is a Turning Point !

  25. andre says:

    Here in Canada, Uranus direct has brought a female Indian chief going on a hunger strike in Ottawa because of the misery in her community. This seems to send shock waves across the country. She says she is ready to die for her cause.

  26. Salemone says:

    Bob, I am also still ‘processing’ this. And I even feel badly saying that, because this is not about me. This is about ‘us’ and what do we do now?

    This has hit me harder in the heart than 9/11…because that came from the ‘outside’. This came from us..the inside. I don’t think I am making sense, but this is how I feel. I pray and meditate for us all. Last night was a non-sleep night and that will probably be the case for awhile for a lot of us.

  27. Nancy, I add my voice to the others who thank you for your words and the ideas behind them. I was hoping you’d speak on this and you did so so eloquently.

    My sincere hope is that good comes from this unspeakable evil and that the parents and families of those who lost their lives that day will find a measure of peace. It is one more wake-up call to our nation. Will we heed it? I pray we do.

  28. Sharon says:

    Thank you Nancy for this brilliant article —and everyone else for your honest sharing of emotion. I especially appreciate Stefanie’s explanation of the effect of the energies on autistic and similar individuals and what a little love and kindness might meant to someone going through hell. For some we need more than love–we need diagnoses and medication and stricter gun control (there I said it—it doesn’t mean we are taking away everyone’s guns which the paranoid and immature among them are afraid of). This being the last night of Hanukah, my husband and I decided to sing a few songs from our song sheet after lighting the candles as I was so busy with school, I never got the chance last week. One song we sang together at our wedding and we sing every year on Chanukah is “Light one candle,” by Peter, Paul and Mary, and when we sang that one I was finished. I couldn’t sing any more, it just hit me so hard. The lyrics are so very appropriate to the events of yesterday and I would post them but am thinking it will be too painful for people, so I’m hesitating…

  29. Sharon says:

    In honor of the children & teachers of Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newton, Ct

    Light one candle
    (Peter, Paul & Mary)
    Light one candle for the Maccabee children with thanks that their light didn’t die.Light one candle for the pain they endured
    when their right to exist was denied.
    Light one candle for the terrible sacrifice
    justice and freedom demand.
    But light one candle for the wisdom to know
    when the peace-maker’s time is at hand.

    Don’t let the light go out
    It’s lasted for so many years –
    Don’t let the light go out
    Let it shine through our love and our tears.

    Light one candle for the strength that we need
    to never become our own foe.
    Light one Candle for those who are suffering
    the pain we learned so long ago.
    Light one candle for all we believe in that
    anger won’t tear us apart.
    And light one candle to bring us together
    with peace as the song in our heart.
    What is the memory that’s valued so highly
    that we keep it alive in that flame?
    What’s the commitment to those who have died
    when we cry out they’ve not died in vain?
    Have we come this far always believing
    that justice would somehow prevail?
    This is the burden and this is the promise, and
    this is why we will not fail.

  30. will says:

    Thank you, Francis, for your very kind and empathic words.

  31. Bob says:

    Thanks Sharon. It’s a favorite. I get goosebumps listening to it.

  32. Lorrie U says:

    In one year, guns murdered

    17 people in Finland
    35 in Australia
    39 in England and Wales
    60 in Spain
    194 in Germany
    200 in Canada
    and 9,484 in the United States

  33. loyalurker says:

    TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — A top Iranian military commander warned Turkey on Saturday against stationing NATO anti-missile systems on its territory, saying such a move risks conflict with Syria.

    The remarks by army chief of staff Gen. Hassan Firouzabadi were carried on state TV the day after the Pentagon announced it will send two batteries of Patriot missiles and 400 troops to Turkey as part of a larger NATO force to protect Turkish territory from potential Syrian missile attacks.

    Firouzabadi said the Patriot deployment was aimed at protecting Israel from Iranian missile attacks and inhibit a potential Russian military defense of Syria.

    “The wise and the elite in Europe, U.S. and Turkey should dismantle the Patriots and take them away from the region before a fire breaks out,” Firouzabadi was quoted as saying. “We are a friend of Turkey, we want security with Turkey, not Turkey being attacked through Syria so that they would want to deploy Patriots there/

  34. Lorrie U says:

    Definition of MILITIA
    1a : a part of the organized armed forces of a country liable to call only in emergency
    b : a body of citizens organized for military service

    Maybe it’s time for the citizens to unite & sue the govt. for loss of lives, and call upon the Supreme Court to define the 2nd Amendment.

  35. Bob says:

    Thank you Francis. I wish we could all hold hands as we walk through these very trying times. We are many but we think and speak and act as one. Rather than curse the darkness let us try to bring light into each heart by our words and deeds.

  36. fierywoman says:


  37. fierywoman says:

    I found this a day or two before the shootings — I was playing in the orchestra in the pit in Florence as Catherine Malfitano was singing … Her performance was stunning, and remained in my heart all these years (from 1983.) Hearing it again, I knew how true my memory was. And now this — seems a good way to mourn for the poor mothers of the children.

    Senza mamma, Suor Angelica’s aria from Suor Angelica

    Without your mother, o my baby,
    you die!
    Your lips, without my kisses,
    grow pale and cold!
    And close, o baby,
    your pretty eyes.
    I cannot caress you,
    your little hands composed in a cross!
    And you are dead
    without knowing how loved you were
    by your mother!
    Now you are an angel in heaven,
    now you can see your mother,
    you can descend from heaven
    and let your essence linger around me.
    Are you here, feel my kisses and caresses.
    tell me, when will I see you in heaven?
    When will I be able to kiss you?
    Oh sweet end to all my sorrows,
    when I greet you in heaven.
    When will I greet death?
    Tell you mother, beautiful creature,
    with a sparkle of the stars.
    Speak to me, my loved one!

    Translated by Natalie Miller (

  38. Sharon says:

    Glad you rescued a hurt animal and glad you are protecting yourself!

  39. Gypsi says:

    Lorrie, this doesn’t surprise me. You have a good source?

  40. Sharon says:

    I’d love to hear that idiot, Scalia’s, response to that

  41. Sharon says:

    Thank you for posting that, Fierywoman. Which instrument do you play?

  42. Gypsi says:

    ABC is carrying it.

  43. alex says:

    U.S. does not have national mental health care programs – it’s a big problem; it’s blatantly obvious that it would have been better if Adam Lanza’s mother had trained ‘service’ dogs ( taken in puppies to raise / train under guidance of service dog organization ) having gotten her disturbed (on medications), mentally disabled son involved in that rather than focusing on target shooting (the mother bought/collected military and police weapons);

    according to HS tech club teacher Nancy Lanza told school he could not feel pain, or feel emotions; the instructor had to know how to keep him safe in tech club because they used soldering tools etc; she had to come to school to intervene when he had ‘regular’ tantrums; he was known for becoming anxious, frustrated and withdrawn possibly the triggers for the tantrums; but he was not known for violent nature;

    can’t recall how many years ago sometime maybe in late 1990’s an adolescent boy who was developmentally disabled, intelligent taking medicines had ongoing psychiatric care for ‘hearing voices’ was sent to college by parents who thought he would learn independent life skills there; their son did not fit in was ridiculed soon after arriving during freshman year he used his car to drive up a sidewalk in the college town to run down killing, maiming half-dozen people; prior to the incident he had been telling dorm residents that the voice of God told him that ‘only beautiful people deserved to live';

    these young men ( apparently the Aurora shooter as well ) needed early and life long mental health care;

  44. fierywoman says:

    The viola.

  45. fierywoman says:

    Anyone taking bets the mother got her news from Faux?

  46. Gypsi says:

    I’ll take that bet.
    I’ve got over 100 mothers Like this within
    10 miles of my house

  47. mitzi says:

    Thank you Nancy.
    The little angels, and the heroines that died along side them are in heaven now.
    Let us continue to pray and send healing light to all who loved them, and to the little ones who will never be the same because of it.
    Love, Mitzi

  48. karen says:

    Thank you everyone for your full hearts. Your posts felt as though we WERE holding one another’s hands, hearing the lyrics (thank Sharon and Fierywoman), as we watched the candles flicker and imagining a world being rebuilt on a foundation of respect.

  49. angellight says:

    Starlight: Great writing!

  50. angellight says:

    Lorrie U: Those are some statistics for the USA! – In one year, guns murdered

    17 people in Finland
    35 in Australia
    39 in England and Wales
    60 in Spain
    194 in Germany
    200 in Canada
    and 9,484 in the United States

  51. clymela says:

    Gypsi-thank you for speaking up for the importance of protection of animals along with the more obvious natural need for self-protection. My conclusions right now is that we must have a spiritual turn that will guide us to care for the poor,the disabled. That houses are sitting empty and rotting to the ground AND we have folk sleeping on the street,in their vehicles,in shelters is obscene.oh,Gypsi I am not going on with this right now-just wanted to say hello and say that protecting yourself is not the same as collecting the weapons of war too use one day.

  52. clymela says:

    Thank you fierywoman. Thank you so much for this and while i was reading the words I felt again the deep,deep demand for FREE and deep education. Our children need to grow up hearing these words and music, knowing how deeply we their adults have lived.
    Sharon-I feel like I am walking through our classroom right behind you echoing you-Good Morning my friend.

  53. clymela says:

    Living on the other side of our country I was able to “relax” last night and I slept. I needed that and needed not to fall into the hole created by the hideous violence but I feel “guilty” as if I abandoned my post-the parents,family,teachers,etc of Sandy Hook will be a long time “relaxing” and then sleeping and I suppose that they will never again wake up to the peace that I take for granted.

  54. will says:


    Again, nothing is foolproof. But if it were my kids, I’d take the “hideous” armed guard with a scanner over nothing. Any child who has been subjected to security measures at an airport already know the drill. Scanners and guards also seem relatively-effective at courthouses across the nation as well. Something of a deterrent until the day comes when we can gain meaningful control over the gun trade.

    On another note, have you had any revelations about your next book?

  55. Stefanie says:

    Thank you Sharon, and happy Hanukah! I love what you shared here.

  56. Sharon says:

    Beautiful display of sensitivity and insight -

  57. alex says:

    According to Human Rights Watch, the number of mentally ill inmates in U.S. prisons quadrupled from 2000 to 2006, and it continues to rise — in fact, the rate of inmate mental illness is five times greater (56 percent) than in the non-incarcerated population.

    With state-run treatment centers and hospitals shuttered, prison is now the last resort for the mentally ill.

  58. barbk says:

    I believe in karma and that there is national karma and global karma as well as personal karma. When we witness tragedy and ask “why him or why her or why me”, I believe it could well be that some souls take on a big hunk of karma for their country and/or the world that is in no way personal. In the cases of Sandy and Sandy Hook, my heart tells me that those victims took a hit for the rest of us. My heart also tells me that somewhere in our unconscious we sense that, and it is part of why we grieve. As Bob and many others have said, we are in it together and we are all one.

  59. starlight says:

    Thank you. Very well said.

  60. starlight says:

    Regarding the shooter, I am wondering if there is any family history of schizophrenia or other mental illness. He was at the age when a first psychotic break is common. The descriptions of his earlier years sound very much like the prodromal (pre-full blown illness) stage of schizophrenia. I wonder why we have not heard any speculation about this.

  61. will says:


    Suor Angelica is incomprehensibly sublime. Mille grazi, Senora!

  62. will says:


    Your clinical sense about this has considerable gravity. That the mother was reportedly anxious and tense about this boy seems more-than-telling.

  63. will says:


    Re: Mrs. Lanza being a likely Faux News fan…..oh yeah.

  64. Noelle says:

    Me too.

  65. andre says:

    Those innocent, angelic souls may yet make this world a better place. Beyond darkness and tragedy, immensely powerful spiritual transformation is coming down to anyone who sincerely seeks. Those children are home.

  66. Wennye' says:

    Barbk, I too blieve these incarnated loving Spirits agreed to this sacrifice if necessary for mankind. When it became time to awaken us to a higher level for moving humanity on the path to look at the troubled among us and truly fix our laws that we thought we could not…their sacrifice made us stop in our tracks. They showed up as babies..the horrible shooting of adults..though news law change, teenagers..though news law change, babies..though news worthy..???? Blessings of comfort to All that are left behind experiencing pain of lost to our Human family

  67. cappy says:

    Thank You, Mitzi…Beautiful.

  68. Wennye' says:

    Starlight, it seems that he was around paranoia growing up (yes I am going there). The mother was waiting for the outside world to appear at her door to ravish her and her property. What she feared was locked in with her and her many guns. Wennye’

  69. alex says:

    the six year olds & eight year old victims would have been twenty years old (age of shooter) in 2024-2026 !

  70. teresahill says:

    Maybe, on the book, but back in daughter hell. Not drugs or drinking. Just her wanting to be 20 and have no job, no responsibilities and live here and be a bitch. As if it’s her right. So very tired of this.

  71. alex says:

    ju, sa, ur, ne, pl, eris,sedna
    05, 04, 19, 25, 29, 24, 29
    ta, pi, ta, pi, cp, ar, ta

    ju, sa, ur, ne, pl, eris,sedna
    05, 04, 28, 01, 05, 25, 00
    ca, ar, ta, ar, aq, ar, ge

  72. cappy says:

    Lorrie…good idea.

  73. cappy says:

    Alex…omg! re our huge lack of easily available National Mental Health Care and the astro aspects for A.Lanza and J.Holmes ….

  74. alex says:

    parents of all three ( plus Virginia Tech shooter parents had mentally disturbed son ) did not get, have adequate options for mental health care for their sons; having said that I read many accounts of all four of these incidents, about the parents, about the shooters growing up and it seems the parents where in denial to the extent that they couldn’t/wouldn’t foresee the worst case scenario, outcome to their sons mental illness;

    this is a tragically, realist, mother of a mentally ill son;

  75. TJ says:

    I so appreciate Nancy’s writing and this online community. It helps me get through our national events by understanding the larger patterns going on. I have been heartbroken since the school shooting, struggling to find a mix of prayer and action in the face of the overwhelming cultural strangleholds around gun control and mental illness.

    I’m distressed by the likes of Mike Huckabee and other Christian voices, and offshoots of the NRA, blaming this on the lack of prayer and godlessness in schools. I fervently wish other Christian leaders would step up about how we are not caring for “the least of us” as Jesus commanded, because we don’t provide care or support for those dealing with mental illness.

    I read a lot of religion books and blogs (all faiths), and a few have linked our times with a the development of a new Axial Age. It’s intriguing, and it dovetails with astrological aspects such as Nancy elucidates so well. If anyone’s interested, here’s one brief introductory article:

  76. karen says:

    You are spot on with this questioning. My niece had a psychotic break in her late teens, diagnosed as schizophrenic. Her parents were often in denial (there’s a brutal streak here as well regarding anything “different” or besmirching the family name, and this could have very applied to the shooter’s mother or family.) My niece had violent episodes throughout her short life especially so when she refused the drugs or broke into the liquor cabinet. She committed suicide at the age of 49.

  77. alex says:

    “Nancy told me he was burning himself with a lighter. In the ankles or arms or something,” he recalled of a conversation they had about a year ago. “It was like he was trying to feel something.”

  78. Lorrie U says:

    Absolutely, I’m sure! Notice that all these domestic violence acts of terrorism is done by RWNJ’s. We never see “liberals” shooting up the populace.

  79. Lorrie U says:

    I agree that these souls made the ultimate sacrifice for the advancement of consciousness. But if that is the case, we then have to understand that the disturbed young man who carried out this karma also made a soul agreement to be a facilitator and deserves our prayers and sympathies as well.

    This also points out the ramifications of the right-wing mindset and their obsession with guns. The mother of this troubled child made it possible for this to happen through allowing him access to guns.

    This whole incident opens up so many avenues to higher consciousness!

  80. Lorrie U says:

    My mother was diagnosed as a paranoid/schizophrenic which was triggered by a chemical imbalance to anything ending in “ol”, including alcohol, phenobarbitol, etc. No one was ever in denial, but getting these people helped is not always easy. The laws make it easy for these people to sign themselves out of treatment. Even when court ordered, they only need to serve the minimal amount of time. Certain meds were made available to allow functionality, but if they refuse to take the meds or continue to use the triggers to their sickness, the family/society can only be vigilant. Sadly, law enforcement cannot act based on what may possibly occur, the action only comes after the act.

    My one half-brother, a former police officer!, has a tendency to paranoia, religious dogma, and conspiracy theories. Thankfully, me and my other half-brother, one of the most compassionate and loving persons one could ever know, are completely the opposite.

    Lots of things to consider in these situations. Is some of it physical DNA, or can it be found in the chart DNA?

  81. Lorrie U says:

    Thank you posting, TJ, that’s a great article! Makes sense. And maybe the offensive statements by such as Huckabee and other Christian voices awaken a distaste in other christians to make them more aware of their true faith and helf redefine it.

  82. Lorrie U says:

    s/b “help” redefine it…

  83. Wennye' says:

    agree that these souls made the ultimate sacrifice for the advancement of consciousness. But if that is the case, we then have to understand that the disturbed young man who carried out this karma also made a soul agreement to be a facilitator and deserves our prayers and sympathies as well.

    Yes dear Lorrie, they all were part of this journey, WE the collective need to rcognize their hudge sacrifice for our awakening.

  84. Lorrie U says:

    The following speaks to the Yod aspect pattern of 12/12/2012, when there is a very special Yod aspect pattern to the planet Jupiter which is conjunct the important fixed star Aldebaran.

    “In the last few hundred years, there has only been one Jupiter Yod similar to the December 21 2012 Jupiter Yod. That was in May 1989. The Yod was most exact on 18 May 1989, when The Chinese government declared martial law in Beijing to deal with protesting students in Tienanmen square. Jupiter was at 13.25 Gemini. The most significant events relating to this Yod did not occur for another 16 days when a New Moon occurred at 13.12 Gemini on 03 June 1989, activating the Yod action point.

    Less than one hour after that New Moon, Tienanmen square had been cleared leaving thousands dead. Saturn and Pluto control and domination squashed Jupiter hopes. One hour before that New Moon on the Jupiter action point, Ayatollah Khomeini died in Tehran from an operation 2 weeks earlier, when the Jupiter Yod was close in aspect. The next day, the Vatican backed Solidarity Movement won the Polish elections, the first of the anti communist revolutions. These events show the effects of Saturn and Pluto on Jupiter. Global entities such as the Catholic Church and Communism. Less obvious but still working behind the scenes would have been Western capitalism supporting the Chinese students and the Solidarity Movement. I see Jupiter here as the rights of the people, standing up against the power of authority as represented by the anit-religious, anti-freedom communist governments.

    Jupiter always wants to expand, and at the focal point of a Yod, the issue is forced, this time by the heavyweights of global movements, organizations and governments. The communists lost in Poland, and won in China. The people won in Poland and lost in China. So Saturn – Pluto was stronger in China, represented by the autocratic government. But Saturn-Pluto was also strong in Poland with the influence of the Catholic Church and Western governments. It seems that Tienanmen square was a negative manifestation of this Yod, while Poland was a positive manifestation of that same energy.

    December 21 2012 Astrology Chart
    Based on the events of 1989, we may expect the big global players to be involved in some power struggle again. The way things are going at the moment, multinational corporations may be the cause of some uprising expressed through Jupiter. One factor not in play in 1989 was the internet which has brought us all much closer together to share our thoughts. I see this a very Jupiter, expanding horizons. People power will be stronger with this networking and sharing of information.

    Aldebaran and December 21 2012
    The fixed star Aldebaran is one of the four Royal Stars of ancient Persia. It’s effects have been studied and documented for thousands of years. It will add extra energy to this configuration as it gives extraordinary energy. When looking into the effects of this star over the last century, I found a definite link to the Jupiter themes discussed about the 1989 Yod. Aldebaran is linked to the social rights of society. This is supported by research from Nick at Lunar Planner Forum. “Aldebaran holds the vision for global leaders and world servers inspiring the administrative planning of world affairs, specifically for physical logistics and a global infrastructure designed to support humanity through evolutionary unfoldment and global change. Prominent alignments with the Aldebaran / Antares axis can express into the business and political arenas and is of their leaders“.

    Like 1989, this might work out positively and negatively at the same time. At best we could see governments and corporations listening to the global community and working to fix the mess of consumerism and environmental disasters. At worst there could be massive uprisings against the corruption of power in governments by the corporations. Religion will again be an issue. Islam has gone more extreme since 1989 and the West is viewed as the Christian Crusaders more than ever now in the Middle East. Alderbaran is a military star and some see it as the energy of Archangel Michael, “Military Commander of the Heavenly Host“, and with Jupiter it gives “Great ecclesiastical honor and high military preferment.” So at worst we could see an escalation in religious wars.

    At best we may see the raising of global spirituality to a new level of acceptance and understanding. We may well see the best and the worst at the same time, and this polar extreme is something common in the effect of the Royal Stars. As Bill Tierney wrote about the Yod: “arriving at a fork in the road and having to proceed in one direction rather than another without knowing where it will lead to.” Some of us will take one road, and some the other. We will be presented with an opportunity for peace. The action point of a Yod comes under intense pressure, and has to release the energy somehow. When there is a planet opposite the reaction point, that’s where the energy heads to find expression. In December 2012, Venus will be opposite Jupiter. Venus is the reaction point of this Boomerang Yod, so all that combined energy of Pluto, Saturn and Jupiter will be condensed and focused on Venus, peace and harmony. That day Sun will be sextile Neptune which will impart a positive spiritual energy to the whole dynamic.

  85. Lorrie U says:

    What jumped out at me from the above post was the May 1989 Yod date! Ironically, that was the exact month that Security Pacific Bank, which was taken over by BofA, cut our jobs to 17-1/2 hrs. with no benefits. Keep the job or take the package ending employment. This flooded the market with a high calibar of banking employees all competing for the same jobs. After that, for me it was six yrs. of catch as catch can for survival and a major change in life style. Finally I gratefully got a county govt. job at a meager wage but decent benefits until I retired a few years ago.

    All of this is reflective of what has happened on a grand scale in this country! It would be interesting if everyone looks at what was occurring at that time in their lives and see how we are all impacted by the current 2012 Yod!!!!!

  86. cappy says:


    i wonder if people are caught up in the ‘evil’ diagnosis — and do not know enough
    re Mental Pathology — not very well taught in college — and not at all in HS.

  87. fierywoman says:

    ubuntu (african word): I am because we are.

  88. teresahill says:

    One of the people interviewed after the shooting was a guy who wrote a book about the Columbine massacre. Rachel Maddow asked him what we could do to help, one thing.
    He said simple screening for depression among teenagers in high school. That about 6 % are seriously depressed and need help, that screening at least is quick and easy.

  89. Patty says:

    Beautiful Sharon! Wish Obama would introduce that song to America. I found this performance from a Concert-1988.

    ‘Light One Candle For The Wisdom To Know When The Peacemaker’s Time Is At Hand”

  90. will says:

    I hear you. I feel you. I am so sorry for your troubles.
    Breathe, Pray, Eat.

  91. Sharon says:

    Thank you Stefanie, Patty, Bob, Karen (& others) for seeing what I saw in the PP&M song…I’ve always found it so powerful & important (I wish I could think of other adjectives beside beautiful, but I’m not Will :-)!. I so appreciate what Barbk, Lorie and Wennye said about soul agreements, sacrifices, and Adam Lanza being part of that, all done to teach the world something it very much needs to know (as have the innumerable sacrifices made by humanity). And in line with what Mitzi said so beautifully about the children (and teachers, principal) now being angels, I really thought Andre made a great comment that I want to recognize again. “Those innocent, angelic souls may yet make this world a better place. Beyond darkness and tragedy, immensely powerful spiritual transformation is coming down to anyone who sincerely seeks. Those children are home.”

    I have CNN on and am waiting for the service to start.

  92. mima says:

    At the begining of this month I was feeling a sense of peace until about two days before the shooting. On Dec 13th something happened at work that was too small to be met with an angry outburst on my part that resulted in me retreating to my car to cry in anger. Then the next day this happened. But I did not grieve for the children it seems that deep down I have a feeling of acceptance about what happened. I just met a lady and we were talking about the exact same thing. She mentioned that this was a soul contract were victim and perpetrator meet in order to herd us into an awakening of consciousness. I have read similar things in the comments in this blog. This lady also mentioned that these souls have beings on the other side that have been helping with these souls transition and that also these beings are helping the families with their grief. She encouraged me to do something from the space of love because in grief we cannot see the clarity of what is.

  93. Noelle says:

    Mima, what you say is so true I believe. If you saw the father of Emilie Parker and listened to what he said and saw her photo I think you’d probably come to the same conclusion.

  94. alex says:


    I heard Bishop TuTu interview whatever year that was explain ‘ubuntu’

    There is a small nation, can’t recall which one, that measures GNH ‘gross national happiness’ instead of GDP ‘gross national product; I’m not kidding they exist and they value cultural/social happiness….

    ‘I am because we are’

  95. Pat Sharp says:

    Re………more focus on mental illness than gun control.This went viral on facebook today……..

  96. alex says:

    FYI Adam Lanza: Natal Incarnation Cardinal Earth, Singleton Element Air, Saturn @17 Aquarius

    Mental Aberrations in Medical Astrology – 2 sample pages

    Adam Lanza

    Natal Fixed T-square

    Chiron @03 Leo
    Natal Midpoint Saturn/Neptune @02 Aquarius (suffering)
    Sun @02 Taurus (apex)

    Natal Midpoint Mercury/Mars @27 Virgo
    Natal Midpoint Chiron/Pluto @27 Virgo

    Natal Semi-Sextile Kite

    Mars @19 Pisces (apex)
    Venus @19 Aries
    Saturn @17 Aquarius


    Solar Arc Jupiter @19 Virgo (15 years old, 2007)

  97. Lorrie U says:

    Anonymous Hacks The Westboro Baptist Church: Posts All Their Personal Information

    Anonymous has been after the Westboro Baptist Church for several months now, hacking their websites repeatedly. Recently, they accused the church of creating a fake letter from the hacking group in order to trick other hackers into attacking the website. Anonymous warned their supporters the church planned to harvest internet addresses and sue people. Suing people is apparently the primary activity of the Westboro Baptist Church when they aren’t screaming hate at funerals.

    Of course, Westboro denied the charges and taunted Anonymous as incompetent hackers. They claimed their website was protected by God. Big mistake. A few days later, while a Westboro spokeswoman was boasting about how the church foiled Anonymous on a radio talk show, an Anonymous spokesman called in and hacked the church’s website in real time on the air.

  98. Sharon says:

    Sorry for the pain both of you (Lorrie and Karen)must have experienced due to the mental health problems of your loved ones. I went through somelike like that with my mother although she improved later in life.

  99. Lisa L. Robinson says:

    Pat Sharp, thank you so much for this link. I have a niece who has not one but two sons who are autistic, the older (11) also has cerebral palsy. The younger (9) has a much more mild type of autism. The oldest is more prone to temper tantrums but we have found when his diet is controlled, he is gentle as a lamb. Sugar and late night eating have proven to be no-no’s. Interestingly enough the the younger brother is a very calming influence on his older brother when he is having a temper tantrum.

    She is a single mother (the father couldn’t take it anymore; his words, not mine, so he left about 4 years ago and took his financial support with him and hasn’t looked back). Two things we all have observed (in addition to taking their medication) have made a huge difference in their behavior. One, both the boys absoultely love their therapeutic horseback riding sessions which for them has truly made a difference. I can’t speak for others but when they come home from a session, they simply glow with happiness. They also got a dog several months ago and again the dog has made a huge difference in the their ability to show touch, warmth and caring. Are animals part of the answer in their healing?

    As a family, my niece has lots of family support, we all do our part. She lives in Virginia works as a nursing assistant. We (my family) are in North Carolina so we help financially. But there is a large extended family in Virginia to help with baby-sitting, homework, etc., Are caring families another part of their healing?

    I am very grateful my niece has this extra family support, but what about the families that don’t have this family of people who have excepted the boys mental illnesses and care very deeply for them.

    President Obama’s touching tribute tonight in Newtown, as well as the clergy and others speaking gives me more hope on more social acceptance and the financial assistance for treating mental illnesses. And hopefully and finally a total ban on assault semi and automatic weapons for civilians.

    Awakening can come quickly but true change is usually much slower. The Chinese proverb ‘the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step’ comes to mind. I believe the majority of American people are ready.

    Warm regards to all of you. ~*Lisa*~

  100. Lisa L. Robinson says:

    Lorrie U, I so shouldn’t smile at this but I am! It’s their claim that their website was protected by God that got me. I shall try to not enjoy this more than I should. ~*Lisa*~

  101. teresahill says:

    Thanks, Will. Very little going on here, compared to elsewhere in the world. I know that.

  102. mima says:

    Noelle,yes!! Her father seemed incredibly accepting of what happened. I would not be surprised if the little one has appeared to him or something. Emilie’s look on that picture is so deep like an old soul through her eyes. Victoria Soto’s family seemed incredibly composed when they were interviewed by CNN. Her sister’s stated that when it started snowing the day after she passed they knew it was Victoria’s way of letting her know that everything will be alright. I think the memorial was very healing, too. The Muslim child who sang the Muslim prayer was very touching, also.

  103. andre says:

    There is a shore community named Sandy Hook, N.J., which was hit by Hurricane Sandy (Google it). Something to meditate as we ponder the need for fundamental change.

  104. Noelle says:

    Matthew’s latest message addresses the shootings and soul contracts.

  105. Iris says:


    Your post on this is unequivocably brilliant. Thank you so much for your assessment of the energies at this time. It is the best piece I’ve read on the Uranus/Pluto dance.

  106. starlight says:

    My thanks to everyone for your comments about this article. They are very much appreciated!!

  107. alex says:

    Adam Lanza’s Progressed Mars met up with his natal Mercury @05 Aries

  108. Sharon says:

    What you have written says a great deal about the kind of love and support (from humans and animals) that makes a big difference in the lives of all, let alone children, and let alone these unique children. Kudos to you and your family.

  109. Sharon says:

    I was SOOO glad they included Islam in their service….that in itself contributes to an even great healing.

  110. Sharon says:

    …and transiting uranus which I guess is your point…

  111. Sharon says:

    Someone posted on Democratic Underground a link to a forum where people can make commments, which they were doing last night about the fact that Obama’s part of the service pre-empted the football game—the most vile, racist, self-absorbed, ignorant comments, which lets us know the strain of people that exist in this country. Even a tragedy like this one could not penetrate their thick, ignorant shells.

  112. starlight says:

    Tomorrow morning, at 10:45 AM, the Moon will trigger the current Yod configuration that is energizing US pr Sun square Uranus. The MC in DC at that time will be at 8 Sagittarius opposite US Uranus and at the midpoint of the Saturn/Pluto sextile. The Ascendant will be 23 Aquarius, semisquare to tr Pluto. I am not sure anything will happen in DC, but tomorrow morning with the Moon triggering the whole configuration, there could be another significant event somewhere. It is possible it will in the DC area.

  113. cappy says:

    Also … unfortunately … there are thousands of paid trolls on the internet … an entire city of approx. 18,000 in the Southern USA alone,
    dedicated to division, disinfo, sewing hatred and frustration non-stop.

  114. karen says:

    Pat, this should go viral, it’s that good!

  115. cappy says:

    An email from Michael Moore this AM (which i am sure many here have received) states that for the first time ever–the NRA–has gone silent !
    Also the NRA has taken their FB page down !

  116. Noelle says:

    Sorry, forgot to give you this
    Reading this helped me to feel that something good will come of horrifying event in Newtown.

  117. cappy says:

    Thanks Noelle…excellent article from Matthew.

  118. Noelle says:

    I almost wish I didn’t know this. I’m a football fan but couldn’t watch any this weekend because it suddenly seemed violent.

  119. cappy says:


    Love to hear how Anonymous is ever at work – ever silently – diligently balancing the epic scales
    – of Truth – Justice and Equality…hooray !

  120. cappy says:


    just saw that the Westbro Hate Mongering Cult (Church) is -was – planning to protest at NEWTOWN.

    Anonymous ( our cavalry) is still on Westbro’s dark (to say the least) trail.

  121. Sharon says:

    You’ll be glad to know that the guy who started the post, a division II college football player, is no long on the team! His school put that out there on a tweet…good for them!!!!!

  122. Sharon says:

    Nancy, I don’t know if I’m anywhere in the ballpark, but let’s hope it means some verbal confrontations that lead to a breakthrough in the “fiscal cliff” negotiations!

  123. cappy says:

    Teresahill…excellent, doable, important pre-emptive screening advice.

    Esp. if we live increasingly in an open, caring, holistic society…searching truly for the patient’s highest welfare.

    Agree also w/ your excellent karma post.

  124. Dave says:

    The westboro haters are not welcome here in our town, and if they attempt to come, they will learn how Connecticut parents deal with them.

    This is my community, which makes the whole thing even harder to deal with. We know these people, we shop next to them, eat next to them, play next to them. Our kids participate in activities together. This loss is a loss for all of us.

    It’s been raining here for awhile. Even the skies are crying over Newtown.

  125. alex says:

    mars – gun violence

  126. cappy says:



    Please accept our deepest love and warmest hugs…eternally – infinitely and more….

  127. alex says:

    guns – mars: key words

    armour, armies, blood, butchers, cars, drive, energy, engineering, executives, guns, heat, heroes, inflammations, iron, knives, locks, murder, passion, penetration, sport, surgery, virility, war,

  128. alex says:

    Secondary Progressions furnish the best starting point for finding the current trend in life through the close aspects that have formed between the natal and progressed planets

  129. Dave says:

    Cappy, thank you :) I will pass that on to our community. This whole thing has affected us pretty hard, especially since our son goes to school in another elementary just a few miles down the road from the Sandy Hook school.

    I only hope that we as a civilization finally address the issues, and that no one else ever dies from this type of horror.

  130. ArtsCulturePeace says:

    Aloha Starlight & All,

    Blessings all! Was struck by something heard on news. One of the young victims, Emilie Parker, used to make/give drawings to her friends to uplift their spirits when they were upset/sad/angry….kindred to what we do at acp365…

    Going to see if it is possible to have some local/national art museum/galleries host/offer space to exhibit peace art by those impacted by this latest & prior atrocities; to honor victims, help heal those left behind: responders, teachers, family, community…a yearly event to give the community & nation something loving/positive/peaceful to remember their lost ones by…It could evolve into a yearly nonviolent ‘armistice’ day of some kind (@peace alliance).

    The discussion on guns seems to be locked in media to either/or…totally forgetting that the 2nd amendment says: “well-regulated militias”…a way past the shadow material may be via loving/creative art exhibitions or such…these people, we all and many globally need healing not more divisiveness, violence, amygdala/fear/hate media memes, imv.

    Am hopeful, with Aries/sun Nancy Pelosi, who seems to be striving for the elevated potentials of the Uranus on her natal sun sign…time will tell…

    Blessings all…May we-the-people awaken and begin serious forward movement and mitigate more time wasted in old, bloody paradigms & repeated tragedies…Amen.

  131. Lorrie U says:

    Headlines on today’s Huffington Post!

    Another Day, More Deaths: Two Police Officers Shot And Killed In Kansas… 3-Year-Old Accidentally Shoots Himself, Dies… Gunman At Large After Shooting Victim 4 Times… Man Shoots Wife… One Person Shot In San Antonio, Gunman Later Shot By Cops… Woman Shot At Campground… Woman Shot To Death, Son ‘Thought She Was Sleeping’… 3 Gunned Down In Grand Rapids

  132. Edria Jeffs says:

    This blog is a lifeline for me, so let me thank you Nancy, for your brilliant insights and hope that you provide for so many of us.

    I was drawn to respond to Clymela’s comment about Reagan when he became President. As a native Californian, an Angeleno specifically. I always found it difficult to walk in LA as it was dangerous. So I would drive to Beverly Hills to walk (police are 2 min away wherever you are ). It was safe, clean, and you never saw “strange” people on the street. When Reagan became Governor, one of the first things he did was to cut the mental health services. After that for the first time, I saw homeless people in Beverly Hills, some obviously with mental health problems, sometimes with physical problems (like cancer growing on their face). Then our economy (one of the10 largest in the world) dropped to deficit status and has remained there ever since. I’ve always felt that Reagan was “handled” that he was never in charge. Since he coulnd’t remember anything, I joked with my friends that he suffered with Alzheimer’s disease and years later after he had been President, it was reported that he indeed had Alzheimer’s disease. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but I do believe there are powerful forces who want to control the planet. As Nancy wrote:
    “on the other hand, the concentrated centers of earthly power are pushing more fiercely than ever to maintain and magnify their dominance (Pluto)”
    Being informed, and being “awake” is what freedom is really about. You can’t make decisions without having knowledge. History has shown us that insanity is like a disease, you can get the disease by putting your brain in the “sleep mode”. I’ve come to the point of praying daily that my country wakes up!

  133. Lorrie U says:

    Thanks for posting, Noelle. Pretty much what we’ve been saying here on this site. It gives comfort, but doesn’t quite dissipate the anger that things have to reach these levels to wake people up. Seeing the comments on social media by those entrenched in their caveman mentality, one gets discouraged at the uphill slope ahead.

    I believe that over time, we will see continued evolution in consciousness. I think that mankind is at the tipping point and those who cannot adapt to the awakened awareness will slowly become extinct.

  134. Mayfly says:

    Nancy, I read each of your new posts with my astrological calendar near the computer so I can jot down predictions I want to remember. In one of your previous articles (maybe the second back, I haven’t reread them) you predicted great drama in the US around December 13–maybe mass demonstrations.

    I think the great drama was the grammar school massacre on the 14th. You cited Jupiter at 8 Gemini conjunct US Uranus and quincunx transiting Pluto at 8 Capricorn and transiting Saturn at 8 Scorpio.

  135. teresahill says:

    Lots of people in lots of places trying to cope with all of this. Someone in another place where I read posted this quote: “All God asks of us is that we do the best we can. As long as we are doing what we can, God is satisfied.”

    Which made me feel the need to reply, and I wanted to post it here, because I know the world just feels so heavy and difficult to many of us:

    You know, sometimes, even that seems too much to ask of ourselves. Which is why I believe in the Mother-God, the kind-hearted, all-seeing, all-knowing, all-understanding Mother. She knows when it’s too much to even ask us to do our best. When it’s all we can do to keep going, and sometimes even that seems to hard.
    I think that’s when she’s sitting there, all serene and kind and even sad for us, and we can sit at her feet and put our heads in her lap and weep. And she strokes our hair with her kind, loving touch and soothes us and tells us that’s okay, too, To say it’s just too hard right now, and we’re so tired. We feel so inadequate. We don’t see anything else we can do. We’ve tried it all, and it still just seems so hard.
    Mother understands.
    We don’t even have to try to do our best for her, and it’s fine. She knows how hard life is at times. She loves us anyway, and she’ll stroke our hair and hand us a box of tissues.

  136. Sharon says:

    Amen. It is an honor to have you here, Dave. As horrible as is the horror, that’s how much good –and more–that we pray will come from this. I’m just so sorry it had to happen this way. I pray that those who are grieving will find comfort. We are all with you.

  137. Sharon says:

    Good post, Edria. Thank you and welcome!

  138. Sharon says:

    I was wondering today how this plays into Obama’s Chrion return and the fact that Chiron and Neptune are both near each other now (5 and 0) Pisces. This may tap into the essential, collective wound and the surgery and healing that’s needed.

  139. Olga says:

    Lorri U

    Thank you so much for saying this.

  140. alex says:

    Ronald Reagan’s economic & policy advisers (1967-1975 CA Governor) came from the Hoover Institute at Sanford University. The Hoover Institution is an American conservative and libertarian institution.

    Ronald Reagan’s had close ties to the Hoover institution, while governor of California, and those were maintained after his election as president.

    Hoover fellows were brought into the Reagan administration. Reagan’s supply-side economic policies were based on the libertarian ideas of Milton Friedman and the Chicago School of Economics.

    When Ronald Reagan was governor of California he systematically began closing down mental hospitals, later as president he would cut aid for federally-funded community mental health programs. It is not a coincidence that the homeless populations in the state of California grew in the seventies and eighties. The people were put out on the street when mental hospitals started to close all over the state.

    Seeing an increase in crime the state legislature passed a law that would stop Reagan from closing even more state-funded mental health hospitals. But Reagan would not be outdone.

    In 1980, congress proposed new legislation (PL 96-398) called the community mental health systems act, but the program was killed by newly-elected President Ronald Reagan. This action ended the federal community mental health centers program and its funding.

  141. Rose says:

    There is an invocation from the Ageless Wisdom teachings, called ‘The Great Invocation,’ that many people use and it seems appropriate to share it. Context is important, so I have given some explanation of terminology at the end, for those who are not familiar with the Ageless Wisdom. This Invocation was given to humanity at the end of World War II, and has been used continuously since then by many, many people around the world. It waas even published in Reader’s Digest back in the ’80s or ’90s.

    ‘From the point of Light within the Mind of God,
    Let Light stream forth into the minds of men*,
    Let Light descend on Earth.

    ‘From the point of Love within the Heart of God,
    Let Love stream forth into the hearts of men,
    May Christ** return to Earth.

    ‘From the center where the Will of God is known,
    Let Purpose guide the little wills of men,
    The Purpose which the Masters*** know and serve.

    ‘From the center which we call the Race of Men,
    Let the Plan of Love and Light work out,
    And may it seal the door where Evil dwells.

    ‘Let Light, and Love, and Power restore the Plan on Earth.’

    * The word ‘men’ does not refer to the male gender, but to the human race; ‘men’ as opposed to ‘angels’ or ‘devas’. In the Ageless Wisdom, humanity is seen as the positive polarity (spiritualizing matter, or evolutionary) and the devas are seen as the negative polarity (materializing spirit, or involutionary). The word ‘man’ comes from the Sanskrit root ‘manas’ which means ‘mind,’ and we are all ultimately sparks within the flame of Mind.

    ** The word ‘Christ’ refers to the Coming One, the Lord Maitreya (Whose reappearance the whole world seems to expect and long for), but it can also be used to refer to the Christ-consciousness, the compassion and love that pours forth spontaneously from the heart when we feel as one with others. It does not refer to the historical Jesus, but to the Christ consciousness which is ever with humanity.

    *** The word ‘Masters’ is synonymous with the Saints in Heaven, the Seven Spirits before the Throne of God, the Seven Rishis; all those who have gone this way before us and have achieved enlightened consciousness, regardless of whatever belief system you follow; the Lords of Wisdom and Masters of Compassion. In this context, even the Buddha is considered a Master.

    This is an invocation on behalf of humanity itself, and is very powerful when said slowly and thoughtfully after consciously recognizing our oneness with humanity.

  142. Lisa L. Robinson says:

    Hi Sharon, thanks so much for the kind words about my niece and her sons. I believe that raising children does take a village. And thank you for sharing the song Light one Candle, that was special.

    And yes I agree that Neptune and Chiron in Pisces will definitely be assisting in our collective consciousness to manifest the positive Piscean archtypes. Kindness, compassion, and having emphathy for others. Also for the many who are already intuitive will grown even more sensitive to experiences.

    Realize that there are negative Piscean archetypes as well, but I prefer to focus my energy on the laudable. And it this energy will be most needed to help balance the Uranus Pluto squares that starlight so eloquently wrote about in this latest post.

    I am planning on making the most of this energy as my ascendant is 6 degrees pisces. Warm regards.

  143. Virginia says:


    We have the same mother . .. . … . .. .

  144. Sharon says:

    I have a ton of Pisces in my chart, Lisa, even though it’s ruled by my Leo moon (I guess) since I have Cancer rising and there is a strong Leo/Moon/Pluto–Aquarius Mercury link. I’m aware of the Pisces weaknesses, the blurred boundaries, confusion, sensitivity, negative thinking, etc. This can all be overcome with awareness and support, especially having the healthy networks and supports you mentioned. You know, I’m Jewish, but I’ve always been attracted to Christianity. I always liked the verse “whenever two or more of them are gathered in his name.” I have experienced that there is so much strength in numbers…of good kind people and it goes so far. I read a long time ago that the key for Pisces is to not be alone & self-absorbed but to reach out to others…it works really, really well. Of course, being alone can be really therapeutic in the right amounts, too.

  145. Francis says:

    This from Marjorie Orr:

    “The National Rifle Association, founded 17 Nov 1871 in Fairfax, Virginia, will be manning the battlements to ensure 2nd Amendment right to bear arms rights are not eroded. The NRA has a very inflexible, control-freak Scorpio Sun opposition Pluto. That has been pushed and pulled ever since Columbine with tr Uranus in Aquarius in square and Solar Arc Mars Saturn leaning on Pluto in the aftermath. Then tr Neptune was in square to the Sun opposition Pluto over the Virginia Tech killings with Solar Arc Saturn opposing the Sun then as well. But nothing much has budged even with that pressure.

    There will be intensely emotional debates with feelings running high over the New Year and beyond with tr Pluto square the NRA Venus and aggravated tensions thro’ 2013 with tr Uranus square the NRA Mars Saturn.

    It may just be a process of attrition but it doesn’t look likely that they will give way anytime soon.

    The Bill of Rights/2nd Amendment chart, 15 Dec 1791, is under challenge in 2013/2014/15 with tr Uranus conjunct Saturn and then tr Pluto in square. But that also looks like a very long drawn out process with the forces of repression digging in against the forces for change. “

  146. Lune Prière says:

    Oh no. I admire him so much. Higher Power please protect him.

  147. TJ says:

    Thank you, Rose. Years ago I used The Great Invocation, but it’s slipped to the back of my mind. Feels good to have it brought forth again at this time.

  148. Rose says:

    Nancy, have you looked at his chart?

  149. fierywoman says:

    Well, we all know how the outer planets work. If we’re unconscious, they wake us up, one way or another. If we resist/deny their message, they come around the next time even stronger — until we do something.

  150. fierywoman says:

    Bless you, Rose, for sharing this with us !!!

  151. will says:

    This is NOT good. He is quite a journalist.

  152. Lorrie U says:

    That’s lovely, and warmly reassuring, as I too feel like I’m often failing at my best. Thank you…

  153. will says:

    NRA Site up and running and talking really f——g stupid, stubborn s–t too.

    Read it and puke.

  154. Lisa L. Robinson says:

    Sharon, what planets are in Pisces and by chance do you know their degrees and house placement? I enjoy your warm caring spiritual posts and can “see” why. Neptune appears to be strong in your chart as it rules Pisces. My husband travels alot and I enjoy being alone, it is not only therapeutic but necessary for me. I enjoy his departure and his return even more. We have been married 26 years and I hope for many more. And do you know the degree of your Cancer ascendant as well? I have a Leo moon as well (mine is a little over 4 degrees so I have been enjoying the trine from Uranus in Aries.

    Sounds like you have a opposition between your Leo moon/pluto conjunction and your mercury in Aquarius. Sharon, if I am prying and asking too many questions, please let me know. I am just very curious about people’s natal chart. Astrology is very fascinating to me.

  155. Lorrie U says:

    This really ticks me off. It shouldn’t be this hard to make change happen.

  156. Lisa L. Robinson says:

    Francis, thank you for this information, it is very helpful.

  157. Lune Prière says:

    Oddly, there doesn’t seem to be a forum for comments. I think the ferocity of the push back against those sick bastards would surprise them.

  158. Lune Prière says:

    Richard Engel, born September 16, 1973. Wikipedia says he grew up in Manhattan.

  159. Patty says:

    Dave, Please know that all of us across America and the world, are crying with you. Nothing has touched our hearts this deeply in a long, long time.
    If we harness this powerful emotion…we can change the world!

  160. Lorrie U says:

    Israel Is Set To Receive 5,000 US Bunker Buster Bombs After Delaying Its Attack On Iran

    In March President Barack Obama reportedly offered Israel bunker-buster bombs and other advanced weapons in exchange for a postponing an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities until 2013.

  161. Stefanie says:

    So many reasons to pray this week that I’ve lost count. I love Engel and truly hope that he is safe. I wonder if the Neptune/Chiron in Pisces will continue to bring us such sadness.

  162. alex says:

    that is news thanks cappy!

  163. alex says:

    Hi Nancy, I have to make online chart and draw it by hand to visualize the aspects for direction, force, momentum:
    my understanding of astrologer’s degree-influence is that the 8th degree represents ‘relentless’ (ruthless) energy, which is on the MC/DC meridian;

    Dec 18th Capitol Building DC:
    Mutable Chart, Singleton Element Air, Jupiter @09 Gemini (polarizing, galvanizing point) opposite Mercury @10 Sagittarius

    Jupiter, apex of the YOD in 4th house – mundane astrology (party out of power in opposition to 10th house government/party in power)

    Progressed USA SUN @08 Pisces (usa ceres @08 pisces)
    Transiting Moon @08 Pisces


    Chart for Dec 18th, IC @08 Gemini (usa uranus @08 gemini)


    YOD apex Jupiter @09 Gemini – 4TH house

    stellium in Gemini:

    Ju @09, Dk Lilith @10, Vesta @15, Ceres @26 Gemini


    Pluto @08 Capricorn in 11th House (legislature – congress)


    Saturn @08 Scorpio in 8TH house (national debt, corporations-shareholders, etc shared-pooled interests)

    The goals for ‘cliff’ negotiations are firming up, more work less media spin-posturing;

    Progressed USA SUN @08 Pisces square IC @08 Gemini, conjunct USA Uranus @08 Gemini, conjunct DC chart Jupiter @09 Gemini (amplifier); the relentless contentions of dysfunctional, obstructed DC government impacts the nation with anxiety and upset, maybe an agreement will be forged but it will take a lot more than that to calm the cultural frustrations that activate social havoc

  164. alex says:

    that’s your uranus point – the focus on the MARS PROGRESSED POINT is mine

  165. alex says:

    In the face of chronic stress, how can we address it and how can we help people who are trauma survivors in their recovery.

    Finding Sanctuary to Heal from Trauma

    In light of continuing gun violence nationwide, the need to talk about the impact and trauma of violence remains of utmost importance. Dr. Sandra Bloom, an associate professor at the DUSPH and co-director of the school’s Center for Nonviolence and Social Justice, has devoted her professional life to addressing the impact of traumatic experience on individuals, families, organizations, and culture.

    Creating Sanctuary: Toward the Evolution of Sane Societies

    Creating Sanctuary makes some broadly challenging statements about human nature and social organization. Dr. Sandra Bloom interweaves the individual and the social, the personal and the political, with the story of how she and a group of friends and colleagues created a traditional psychiatric milieu based on social psychiatry principles.

    Bloom and her colleagues have come to believe that unresolved, multi-generational, often forgotten trauma leads to a compulsion to repeat that is a powerful force in individual and social history. Because of this unresolved legacy of trauma, all of our social systems are “trauma-organized,” producing institutions which are unresponsive to and often directly counter to human needs.

  166. alex says:

    my last post re: Sandra Bloom, Cultural Chronic Stress

  167. mitzi says:

    Lorrie, I had several very significant, life altering changes during April and May of 1989! I truly appreciate you’re insight, and info regarding this. Thanks!

  168. mitzi says:

    Thank you, teresahill! – I really needed this at this time…
    Wow, I think I feel a SHIFT coming on!!
    Bless you!

  169. alex says:

    Towards the Evolution of Sane Societies

    The Sanctuary Model: An Integrated Theory

    What is the Sanctuary Model? The Sanctuary Model® represents a theory-based, trauma-informed, evidence-supported, whole culture approach that has a clear and structured methodology for creating or changing an organizational culture.

    The objective of such a change is to more effectively provide a cohesive context within which healing from psychological and social traumatic experience can be addressed.

    As an organizational culture intervention, it is designed to facilitate the development of structures, processes, and behaviors on the part of staff, clients and the community-as-a-whole that can counteract the biological, affective, cognitive, social, and existential wounds suffered by the victims of traumatic experience and extended exposure to adversity.

  170. angellight says:

    Rose: Thank you for the posting of the Great Invocation. I have posted on this site but not with your brilliant explantion of its Purpose!

  171. clymela says:

    Per Huffington Post-Richard Engle is released.
    Thank you all so much for being here with new insights and support. Alex I love the info on the sanctuary model and I love the Great invocation Rose and I will begin to use it in my rosary meditations

  172. alex says:

    clymela – the sanctuary model has great potential; I found it early this morning under google search term; healing from gun violence trauma;

  173. mitzi says:

    Not so long ago our nation was traumatized by what occured on 9/11. After reading your post Alex, I wonder
    what kind of impact this may have had on the psyche of our nations youth? – And especially on those whom may have already had a propensity towards mental illness?
    Mr. Lanza may have been ten at the time.
    Sounds like an amazing program, that can make a major impact in the field of mental illness!

  174. Stardust says:

    If true, Pres. O has proposed to cut SS benefits by basing COLA increases on “Chained CPI.” Chained CPI defined at Dem Underground:
    And no tax increase under $400K incomes.

  175. catsandmusic says:

    Thank you, Alex. This is a tremendous resource.

  176. alex says:

    chronic, cumulative, cultural stress which compounds with each traumatic collective injury; if it is not released and healed; if the recurring tragedies don’t have a relevant solution it becomes exponentially worse for those who bear witness to it;

    ‘a solution for a sane society'; I think they may have a very big answer;

  177. teresahill says:

    Tough days, ladies. Just really tough days. But I do think things are shifting, too.

  178. alex says:


    To teach individuals and organizations the necessary skills for creating and sustaining nonviolent lives and nonviolent systems and to keep believing in the unexplored possibilities of peace.

    and to keep believing in the unexplored possibilities of peace.

  179. Sharon says:

    I remember this song well, and liked it even better as a Coca Cola commercial, even though the stuff is terrible for ya.

  180. Nina says:

    Well that’s depressing and distressing. Hopefully he gets some pushback from the left and drops the offer. Why would he even offer that, when he holds all the cards?

  181. Gypsi says:

    Time to tell the White House what to do, he just offered up social security cuts and gave in on rich taxes and Boehner turned him down. This is your cordial invitation to join me on Twitter:

    @BarackObama Take us over the cliff, leave social security alone and tax the top 2%, cut military budget.

  182. Sharon says:

    To get the Republicans to agree, the Democrats have to show some willingness to compromise somewhat…that’s how it’s arrived at. Paul Krugman said that this particular deal (the version he wrote about was associated with Medicare not SS) is probably better than doing nothing but he wasn’t definitive about it. I thought that Obama’s original income level on which to raise taxes of $250,000 was probably low. The Repubs countered with $1 million. Maybe they’ll agree on $500-600K which was probably the goal as you always ask for more than you want. As far as the social security cost of living cuts (because they are associating it with a different formula for inflation?), if we get more democrats in the house, we can reverse this. On the other hand, I don’t understand why we aren’t requesting SS taxes on income over $110K, the current ceiling (I think). I don’t do twitter but I’ll still send emails through moveon and groups like that to put pressure on the president.

  183. Gypsi says:

    The tea party will NEVER agree. If they do agree they will pull the debt ceiling string in February. Over the cliff, enough Republicans can get around their Norquist pledge, and Obama will have some respect from Congress as well. It’s a win-win.

  184. Wennye' says:

    thanks Noelle, I thought I had sign up for the updates on the site..will do it again. Blessings

  185. Wennye' says:

    THAT is unconditional love sweetie as you know!

  186. Lorrie U says:

    I would think the impact on the psyche of the youth by 9/ll depends on the response of the adults in their lives. I’m sure the response by republicans was considerably different than less fear-based individuals.

  187. Lorrie U says:

    Twitter is having a mental breakdown and responding to PBO about this!

  188. Dave says:

    More funerals today, more tomorrow, and continuing all week. Honestly this is just too much, it would be bad enough if it were adults, but my god…to watch the parents of our community put their little ones into the ground is still like a bad dream.

    26 souls incarnated with us, they came to teach us a lesson. But will we, as a society, be brave enough to listen to their message?

  189. teresahill says:

    I’m in awe of the bravery the teachers and school staff showed. Charging a gunman with nothing but your own body? Hiding your students, but staying outside to tell the gunman they’re in the gym, giving up your life to save them? The teacher who survived and hid with her students in the bathroom and told them she loved them and their parents loved them, because she wanted that to be the last thing they ever heard, instead of the gunshots.
    What incredibly brave women.

  190. cappy says:

    Goddess Bless Twitter!!

  191. Sharon says:

    Well, I see your point, Gypsi, and it would be great if it could happen that way.

  192. cappy says:


    So Beautifully said … am affirming and visualizing that we – the collective world unity –
    will absolutely be brave enough to listen to the epic message of our human-angelic messengers…and the galactic ripples are – as we speak — making their heavenly transitions — an unforgettable Turning Point in world history-herstory.

  193. Jackson says:

    NRA agitprop video sent out to members, attacking President Obama.

  194. Dave says:

    Thanks so much. You and all the others here are what makes this such a great site to visit. I’ve been reading it for many years and have always enjoyed Nancy’s amazing writing as well as the many comments.

    I envision those souls being rewarded in the most grandiose way that the universe could offer. They all lived their karma in the highest form possible.

  195. Duchess of Gadsden says:

    “To get the Republicans to agree, the Democrats have to show some willingness to compromise somewhat.”

    Unfortunately, no matter how much the Dems are willing to compromise, the Republicans keep on moving the bar.

    It’s long past time to tell the Republicans that THEY lost the election and THEY need to compromise.

  196. Francis says:

    Today all donations to the Brady Campaign to End Gun Violence will be matched!

  197. Sharon says:

    Just saw your response, Lisa…I’ll tell you very memory what the degrees are and it will be pretty close (I, too, like to know many people’s charts–it intuitively tells me so much about them).
    Sun 0 Pisc
    Jup 15 Pisc
    Mars 24 Pisc
    Venus 26 Pisc
    NN 23 Pisc
    MC 20 Pisc (sun & jup in 9th house)
    Asc 10 Cancer conj Uranus @ 6
    Moon & Pluto are about 18 Leo opp Mercury at about 16-17 Aquarius!

    Thanks for liking my posts–I like yours, too, and I sure like my space, but I also need closeness and affection :-)

  198. Sharon says:

    I agree with you, Duchess, but it’s the nature of negotiation that each side move a bit so there is saving of face and no desire for revenge. Maybe they need to move more than us but we need to give something, even if it’s raising the income level of the wealthy whose taxes will be raised. I’m just saying this because it tends to be the reality of it but I do understand and am on the same page with your and Gypsi’s feelings.

  199. Sharon says:

    I’m so glad we can be there for you.

  200. connimac says:

    Thank you, Rose. I have been reading the Ageless Wisdom for a few years now. This truly is a powerful prayer, especially as we leave the Picean Age and move more fully into the Aquarian Age.

  201. Noelle says:

    Sharon, I agree. How many of you saw Lincoln? Politics is not always getting every thing you want. Think about it. Lincoln had to keep the war going to get the 13th amendment. And think about Thadeus Stevens. He had to bite his tongue so hard to get what he really wanted. Do you think Obama wants to cave on Medicare or SS? Of course not. Give him some credit. Look at what Lincoln had up his sleeve and have some faith in our President instead of second guessing his every step. You all are a very critical bunch. Get out and do something and off your butts and the computer.

  202. mitzi says:

    The meaning behind the name, SANDY: “defender of mankind”

  203. starlight says:

    How the NRA truly destroys gun control:

    The gun lobby, concerned about government regulation of firearms ownership, has taken steps to limit the resources available to ATF and to prevent the agency from having a strong leader, according to former and current ATF officials.

    For decades, the National Rifle Association has lobbied successfully to block all attempts to computerize records of gun sales, arguing against any kind of national registry of firearms ownership. And despite the growth of the gun industry and the nation’s population, ATF has fewer agents today than it did nearly four decades ago: fewer than 2,500.

    “If the administration and Congress are serious about addressing this problem, they need to fund the gun police, the agency charged with administering the firearms regulations,” said Michael Bouchard, a former ATF assistant director. “Unless they are going to do this completely, simply passing some form of gun legislation is only part of the solution.”

  204. Lorrie U says:

    Occupy Wall Street Makes It A Very Merry Christmas For Medical Debtors

    This holiday will be a very happy one for 44 people in upstate New York who were struggling under medical debt.

  205. Nita says:

    Noelle god blesses you!

    Well said Noelle and thanks for speaking about all the destructive comments here, the President comprehends what his responsibility to all the people, and of course the President does not want to cave on Medicare which is not an entitlement I just hope the people here would continue to send prayers to him and stop being so critical negative words are dangerous and words do have power.
    He just won a second term please give him time

  206. TJ says:

    I was wondering about that, with Sandy and Sandy Hook. Thanks for taking the time to find out and post it here.

  207. clymela says:

    Thank you,Mitzi. I
    have been wondering about the word Sandy which has shown up over and over these past few weeks beginning with the hurricane.

  208. Gypsi says:

    I remarried in June 1989. My husband repaired electronics.
    A trade barrier with China droppedAnd the U.S.was flooded
    With cheap Chinese electronics.
    It became cheaper to replace than to repair.
    straight commission repair work depends on volume.
    Went from a living wage to not really.

  209. Noelle says:

    PBO is Time Magazine’s Man of the Year. Beautiful photos especially with Spiderman in Oval Office and PBO at one of the children’s dress rehearsal of Nutcracker Suite. He went to the rehearsal so that he could go to Newtown later in day. It was editor of Time’s favorite picture.

  210. Francis says:

    This article spells out the power of the NRA. Again, it is the theme of people power v plutocracy and the status quo. It will be interesting to hear what the NRA says on Friday. Will they be part of the solutions this time, or will they block progress?

  211. sorah says:

    Krugman changed his mind today.

  212. sorah says:

    Why is Obama negotiating with himself again?

  213. Noelle says:

    Senator Boren, I believe, made a real point on one of the MSNBC shows of saying it’s not so much the NRA, although they are certainly a problem, but the gunmakers who are the real problem with the money they pss through lobbyists, etc. This ties in with some of what Starlight wrote about corporatons and slso what was it that Eisenhower warned us about? Was it the corporate military complex? Think of all of those ammunition makers supplying all of those mega-rounds guns.

  214. cappy says:

    yes, isn’t PBO’s trying to find ‘common ground’ or ‘negotiating’ w/ the R’s (as in reptilian)
    an oxymoron… they just want PBO to commit Hari-Kari…which may happen if he continues to compromise on entitlements!

  215. cappy says:

    Thanks for verbalizing your trust in our truly amazing President … i wish i hadn’t just left a doubting
    comment below…O knows the bigger picture

  216. alex says:

    The NRA announced Wednesday it is “prepared to offer meaningful contributions” to address the public’s growing concerns. Since it’s open season on big ideas, here’s one for the industry organization. I suggest the gun advocate proactively re-direct a big chunk of its lobbying budget to support mental health outreach projects.

  217. alex says:

    Boehner is betting that Republicans will see that it’s better to cut a deal and trade tax hikes for spending cuts than to pass a Senate-like bill that cuts taxes for everybody but the rich and gets no entitlement cuts in return.–politics.html

    Grover Norquist on Wednesday gave his blessing to House Speaker John Boehner’s backup “fiscal-cliff” plan, saying it would adhere to lawmakers’ pledge not to increase taxes.

    Norquist’s action will likely help Boehner win House passage of the measure on Thursday despite a White House’s threat to veto it.

    Boehner’s backup bill, “Plan B,” would shield more than 98 percent of Americans from a tax hike. But it would still permit a tax increase for those earning more than $1 million to automatically kick in, as scheduled, on Jan. 1.

  218. Thanks for sharing that! When I attended Sancta Sophia Seminary, we used to recite that a lot. The part where it says ” .. and may it seal the door where evil dwells” always played a picture in my head of us shutting a big door on Dick Cheney. (LOL)

    It’s a beautiful mantra. I think I’ll go back to saying it.

  219. Barbara Backus says:

    Time mag’s person of the year should have been the Voter…..

  220. clymela says:

    Sharing a link that a friend forwarded. Mark Crispin Miller has a very powerful rebuttal to the ALEC,NRA crowd. i love it and feel so strong in my beliefs and might say in my instincts (Saturn,Moon, Pluto together in the 4th).
    My heart is so heavy these days and I might bite myself or someone else if I hear another maniac suggest that teachers should be armed with the weapons of war.

  221. will says:


    You are not alone. You are not alone.

    Godspeed, all of us.

  222. will says:

    Barbara Backus,

    I so agree!

  223. Lorrie U says:

    Adam Lanza’s Motive: Did Fear Of Being Committed Lead To Sandy Hook Elementary Shooting?

  224. will says:


    Great article from Goldstein. I disagree with her on one point:
    “They say politics make strange bedfellows, but no two interest groups are more oddly paired than parents of special needs children and the National Rifle Association.”

    I would wager there are more than just a few parents of special-needs children who own guns. To wit, Mrs. Lanza. And many parents who own them may very well not even know that one of their children may be a walking mental-health-time-bomb. Nonetheless, I love the idea of forcing the manufacturers to foot some of the mental-health bills…..not too much different from what we did with the tobacco companies.

    On another note, I think gun owners who have them for hunting should take a hint from the Native American hunting tradition and give the animals fighting chance. Put the guns away and learn the art of archery or the use of sling shots…..kind of like learning how to fish rather than taking such a ridiculously over-reaching advantage and shooting fish/birds/deer/whatever-in-a-proverbial barrel. The whole “game” of hunting animals by guns with powerful sights and telescopes is cowardly and totally unfair, prima facie.

  225. Lorrie U says:

    I completely agree with you, Will. Unfortunately, many “men” out there identify their manhood with the size of their gun (or pit bull).

  226. will says:


    Thank you for sharing this link. As posted earlier, I had initially suspected this was part of what set him off:

    “Nancy Lanza reportedly volunteered with kindergartners at the school for several years. Flashman said that Adam “believed she cared more for the children than she did for him.”

  227. Duchess of Gadsden says:

    The Republicans only move in the direction of making more demands that they want. As far as I can tell, just as soon as Obama makes a move, they back up. That’s NOT negotiation, it’s making unilateral demands.

  228. Sharon says:

    In FB terminology: Like!

  229. teresahill says:

    To be fair to the mother, I have trouble believing most any mother would believe her son was capable of what Adam Lanza did.
    Have heard people saying she was crazy to have so many guns available to a son she was worried enough about to think of having him committed.
    I think it’s kind of crazy for anyone to have the kind of guns she did, but at the same time, who ever thinks their kid will go commit mass murder at an elementary school?
    Not sure if you all saw, but she had a generous divorce settlement. $300,000 a year, reportedly. Her husband was a big-shot at GE.
    So she should have had the means to get her son the best of care. I think it may be more an issue of whether we have the kind of facilities available to deal with really messed up kids and adults.

  230. alex says:

    Maryland Sen. Barbara Mikulski is set to become the first woman to chair the prestigious Senate Appropriations Committee, a position left open this week by the death of Hawaii Sen. Daniel Inouye.

    A Democrat, Mikulski was first elected to the Senate in 1986 after serving 10 years in the House. Last year, she became the longest-serving woman in Senate history.

    With her ascendancy to the chairmanship of Appropriations, she enters a male-dominated realm that in the past has had sweeping power in deciding how federal dollars will be dispersed around the country.

    “It is especially gratifying to be the first woman to lead this powerful committee,” the 76-year-old lawmaker said in a statement. “I am grateful for this opportunity to fight for the day-to-day needs of the American people and the long-range needs of the nation.”

    Mikulski, who is also now the longest-serving woman in Congress, attended the same Baltimore high school as House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California, and worked as a social worker before entering politics.

  231. Noelle says:

    Theresahill, don’t yo think she should have been worried that he would harm himself? Then again there are the sould contracts.

  232. alex says:

    Joe Bageant’s Deer Hunting with Jesus reveals on a very personal level why small town Americans vote for the very people who are ruining their towns and their lives for profit. In it he describes how local old boy networks systematically grow rich while impoverishing workers and how large firms like Bain Capital now use local companies as pawns in global financial schemes, often saddling them with debt that eventually kills them.

    This recent Bill Moyers program goes into depth about these “sacrifice zones” that are killing American towns and ruining American lives.

  233. alex says:

    Chris Hedges on Capitalism’s ‘Sacrifice Zones’
    July 20, 2012
    There are forgotten corners of this country where Americans are trapped in endless cycles of poverty, powerlessness, and despair as a direct result of capitalistic greed. Journalist Chris Hedges calls these places “sacrifice zones,” and joins Bill this week on Moyers & Company to explore how areas like Camden, New Jersey; Immokalee, Florida; and parts of West Virginia suffer while the corporations that plundered them thrive.

    These are areas that have been destroyed for quarterly profit. We’re talking about environmentally destroyed, communities destroyed, human beings destroyed, families destroyed,” Hedges tells Bill.

  234. Lorrie U says:

    He’s playing a head fake…

  235. Lorrie U says:

    I’m sorry but I think that she was totally irresponsible. Any responsible person who has a mentally troubled person living in the home does not have assault-type weapons available to them.

  236. alex says:

    In 1997,then U.S. Senator John Glenn attempted to outlaw all ‘Non-Consensual Human Experimentation’ (including classified research).

    In introducing S.193 (105th Congress), the proposed “Human Research Subject Protections Act of 1997″, Senator Glenn: spoke of “some serious gaps in our legal system” [Congressional Record, Jan. 22, 1997, p. S645]; and stated that “Under current rule, and executive order, it is possible to waive informed consent and IRB [institutional review board] review for [U.S.] classified [human] research.” [p. S648].

    Although S.193 was not passed and expired, 4 of its 5 co-Sponsors, Senators Kennedy, Lieberman, Inouye, and Akaka, are still in the U.S. Senate.

  237. Lorrie U says:

    The New And Twisted Definition Of The Second Amendment

    The Second Amendment was designed to eliminate the need for a standing army by creating a militia force made up of citizens. It did not, according to the framers of the United States Constitution, give an individual rights to own any form of arms desired. It is based on the English Bill of Rights of 1689, which included provisions designed to prevent the King from forcing his religion onto the population, and is a result of the turmoil of the Glorious Revolution.

    So where did the idea of the amendment establishing the National Guard instead becoming a personal right instead of a collective come from? PBS’s Frontline interviewed Jeffrey Toobin of the New Yorker magazine and author of The Oath, discussing what he terms as “the conservative re-casting of the Second Amendment.” He discusses how until the 1980?s, it was accepted under strict Constitutional interpretations that the Second Amendment did not apply to individuals.

    One of the first commentaries to challenge this view was “The Right To Keep And Bear Arms, a report to the subcommittee on the Constitution by Senator Orrin Hatch. In it, he declared 195 years of Constitutional scholarship wrong, and established the narrative that the Second Amendment was an individual right. He, and his compatriots, were so successful in pushing this narrative that, simply, the Democratic party gave up on fighting it. [It seems to me that the Dem Party does a lot of giving up.]

  238. alex says:

    Wonderful Lorrie U – past lives, present lives, spirit life;

    The Tapestry of Grace: Crafted by The Divine Weaver: A Memoir by Lorraine Miller

  239. alex says:

    Arizona has astrologers with the right stuff!

    Philip’s background includes a degree in Psychology and broad experience in all areas of quantum consciousness. He combines extensive knowledge of the Astrological Charting process with an instinctive and incisive analytical ability that translates volumes of heavenly data into practical, on-target advice.

    Philip Comi

  240. Gypsi says:

    No, I figure they will offer one NRA member retiree, a volunteer, with an AR15, for the front door of every school in America. That would be their way of helping…

  241. Gypsi says:

    Totally irresponsible, and the stigma of mental illness might have prevented her from seeking treatment for him. What would the neighbors think?

  242. Gypsi says:

    Definitely Like.

  243. Gypsi says:

    Add Kalamazoo and Battle Creek Michigan to the list. The oil spill in the Kalamazoo river a year ago didn’t make the news as much as BP’s, but it was as large or nearly so.

    You can fish in the plentiful lakes, but not eat the fish, as they are heavily loaded with mercury and chemicals.


  244. Gypsi says:

    Care to take a guess whether mercury, a radiation leak or some other substance in the water caused this?

  245. alex says:

    In late 1990’s there was a report about CA – autism rate, went up 400%; wish I could say that the definitive cause was discovered;

  246. Salemone says:

    I never heard about Autism until I saw the movie “Rain man”.

    But in a more heart to heart manner, I have had a hard time getting into the Holiday season. I think about those who have lost the light of their lives, their children. Last night we decided to get down ALL the Nutcrackers out of the attic and put them up all over the house. They sort of look like protection. Then we put all the tiny Nutcrackers on the bare tree. I haven’t had ALL the Nutcracker guys out in four or more years. I guess I am making an effort. I still need to get some Christmas presents..we have company coming on Saturday from out of town and tomorrow is the 20th. And I think about all those who have lost someone and somehow it doesn’t matter…yet it does. It feels like our collective psyche has been seriously bruised and battered. I’m still not sleeping well…and none of this is about me. Not really. Just my reactions to what has happened. Thank you for letting me share.

  247. Salemone says:

    The part about somehow it doesn’t matter I meant about the Holidays. Yet we have to go on..somehow?

  248. Sharon says:

    It could be something about the it being underdiagnosed before and maybe overdiagnosed now?

  249. alex says:

    in the past other places on web blog when I raise the issue of 22+ vaccinations given to children for years now…. has gotten me flame-thrower replies about anti-vaccination diatribe;

    I don’t know how anybody, let along small infants, children’s with immature immune system, can handle all that plus the thermosal used as preservative in every shot;

    I certainly understand the need to vaccinate but it is way out of balance and wonder if there if enough reason for ALL twenty-two; I should look up the list of 22 diseases they protect against and post it sometime! I am out-of-date on early childhood healthcare;

  250. Gypsi says:

    Vaccinations contain mercury, but environmental
    Mercury from coal is much mpre Prevalent.
    If shots were causing autism, there would be more.

  251. alex says:

    good point;

  252. will says:

    I wonder if the coroner performed an autopsy on the Lanza boy. I would be curious if he had evidence of any psychotropics in his blood.

  253. TJ says:

    Yes, plus older fathers have been found to be statistically significant in autism rates. Multiple well-designed studies have roundly debunked links of autism to vaccinations. Food allergies have been ruled out, despite Jenny McCarthy’s celebrity push for that (although some autistic children have food intolerances, but so do many in the general population). My godson is on the autism spectrum, so I’ve learned about it.

  254. alex says:

    Winter Solstice Dec 21, 2012: Milky Way, Galactic Center @26 Sagittarius, Radio Astronomy, discovery by Karl Jansky of Bell Laboratories 9/10/1932 Holmdel NJ, 7:10PM

    Chart – Minor asteroid ‘Zwingli’ @26 Sagittarius
    GC @26 Sagittarius

    Astrologically, Zwingli seems to indicate “by the book,” playing by the rules, no wiggle room, rigid, exacting; possibly, theocratic view of government (opposing separation of church and state, government favoritism and support for one particular religion)

  255. alex says:

    you’ve noticed that in the public domain pictures of adolescent Adam Lanza he has a very enlongated face compared to his early puberty year pictures when his face was merely oval;

    Ryan Lanza has an oval face and he resembles his father in public domain picture so if that familial oval shape face is considered normal length you can see how Adam’s had some kind of elongated face growth disorder;

    anyone with medical background could examine his medical records and the autopsy to pinpoint what medical condition caused it; if there was a post mortum diagnosis finding made public then the physical, mental and emotional conditions associated with it would be better understood;

  256. angellight says:

    Tragedy In Connecticut by William Meader

    “It is often said that “we live in interesting times.” To me this notion is profoundly inadequate,for it doesn’t rightly convey the gravitas of the times. Though the nature of this message has
    largely centered on the events at Sandy Hook School and its relationship to gun control in America, this is simply one of countless pressing issues that humanity faces. Around the world,
    and in every country and culture, a battle between the thoughtforms of the past and future is being waged. Much is as stake and humanity’s very survival is in the balance. May we all therefore rededicate ourselves to the inspirations of the soul and the intuitive/cognitive promptings that they convey. In this will surely be found truth and certainty of effort, for the soul is always in alignment with the Soul of Humanity and its next evolutionary unfoldment.”

  257. tetramorph says:

    Perhaps on SSRI’s. I haven’t looked, but I wonder if many of these recent mass shooters have been taking some form of these. They are non-reversible, meaning they have a very long mode of action, making them more or less addictive; the withdrawal is a worsening of symptoms. Nicotine is a naturally occurring SSRI, and we all know how hard withdrawal is for that. The associated “mental/emotional space” makes stopping (tobacco use) very hard.

  258. alex says:


    Steve Jobs once said that the most difficult and important thing to create was not an innovative product but a great organization that could continually create innovative products.

    An idea begats a discovery, and a discovery begats an invention, then an innovation defines the transformation of an idea into a technological product (or process) meant for widespread practical use.

    By definition, a single person, or even a single group,
    can not alone create an innovation.

  259. clymela says:

    Alex-thank you for those thoughts. I noticed how extreme his face shape had become as he matured. I would be interested to know what happened to him. He did not have a normal appearance-my feeling instinct was to respond by thinking that something was very wrong there, of course this was after the fact when we kneew how very wwrong thing were for that boy.

  260. clymela says:

    Alex-when my grandson was an infant I was horrified by how many inoculations were given him in his first months of life and i spoke up but my concern was chuckled at because I was being all “hippie-dippie”. This still bothers me and you are correct that these shots are so much for the little bodies to absorb. Gypsi, I was touched by your reasoning regarding mercury from the vaccinations vs mercury from coal-the reasoning really moved me.

  261. alex says:


    Yesterday evening I google searched ‘elongated face bone growth’ there are several medical conditions; I didn’t have the chance to read up on them;

  262. clymela says:

    Thank you so much for linking to Bill Moyers. Not only is his program so extremely relevant but the man himself has been one of my inspirations-I was a young person when he was LBJ’s media person, he was the Rev Bill Moyers in those days, and I watched him deal with the evil of too much power, and, yes, he had to dust off the dust as he left and he has become one off the strongest voices for decency and intelligence that I am conscious of in our culture. Truly, Bill Moyers is a hero to me.

  263. clymela says:

    Wow! Barbara Mikulski and Nancy Pelosi come from the same cultural ground. I didn’t know. What powerful teachers they must have had.

  264. clymela says:

    I so agree with you,Will. It is as if some folk believe that the killing is the point rather than something we must do in order to eat and survive. I suppose this represents the bitter end of the culture.A friend who cannot legally own guns because of youthful mistakes now has a bow and arrow-he was a youthful athlete and retains that physical grace although the years have taken a toll-i mention this because the there are physical and mental skills required for hunting.

  265. clymela says:

    Gypsi-thank you for this “news”. I wonder how much more of our ground has been destroyed without any attention. is this part of the end: You can fish in the plentiful lakes, but not eat the fish, as they are heavily loaded with mercury and chemicals. I thank you with a heavy heart.

  266. pisca says:

    This article shows the planetary aspects and some history of autism:

  267. teresahill says:

    I’m just saying I think it’s almost impossible for a mother to believe her son would do something so horrible.
    If you think about it that way, it makes gun ownership even more dangerous. You can’t imagine your kid or people in your household freaking out and taking your guns and doing something horrible with them. You don’t think anything this bad will ever happen. You think you’re being careful enough. It’s the disbelief that’s so dangerous and I think that disbelief is really common.

  268. Salemone says:

    I found what I think you saw, Alex. “Fragile X Syndrome” It fits Adam Lanza in a very scary way.

  269. alex says:

    Salemone good find; it’s a tragedy all around that he had access/familiarity with guns; I’ll have to look at his natal chart again and refer to medical astrology to see if his genetic condition has aspect/element symbolism;

  270. alex says:

    tetramorph, articles report that he was on some medication apparently at one time but don’t know if he was addicted phase or in withdrawal phase of psychotropic on Dec 14th;

  271. alex says:

    pisca well written article, thanks good cultural scope,



    if will be useful practice testing these cycles in natal charts of autism individuals;

  272. will says:


    SRRIs are not addictive and to my knowledge do not cause violent behavior. IThey also have a short half-life and flush from the body in a very short time. In fact, SSRIs are widely used for pain management and anxiety to bypass the addictive properties of codeine and opiates as well as benzodiazepines like valium, Ativan and Zanax. T I was thinking along lines of stimulants and/or an ineffective antipsychotic.

  273. Francis says:

    Some of this may have to do with diagnosing autism differently than in the past. I also wonder if this is only happening in the USA, and if so could that also be a factor of diagnosing differently than in other nations, or is it something else?

  274. alex says:

    In 1900, the smallpox vaccine was the only one administered to children.

    By the early 1950s, children routinely received four vaccines, for protection against (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, polio, and smallpox), and as many as five shots by two years of age.

    Since the mid-1980s, many vaccines have been added to the schedule.

    As of 2009, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) now recommends vaccination against at least fourteen diseases.

    By two years of age, U.S. children receive as many as 24 vaccine injections, and might receive up to five shots during one visit to the doctor.

  275. will says:

    I have not read anything indicating Adam Lanza was mentally retarded, a primary feature of fragile x. Conversely, he was reportedly very bright.

  276. Rose says:

    However, one of the major characteristics of Fragile X Syndrome in boys is mental retardation. At best, his IQ would have been average, but according to Adam’s friends, he was a genius. And there have been no reports of Adam exhibiting the repetitive hand motions or repetitive speech that are characteristic of this syndrome.

    There is no question something was wrong, but I am not convinced that FXS is the correct diagnosis, just based on phenotypical characteristics. The only reliable way to know for sure would be genetic testing. It may have already been done, since screening for FXS is mandatory for anyone diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder.

  277. Rose says:

    That was my first thought also. I just posted something similar above in response to Salemone and Alex.

    I just finished a semester-long class in genetic analysis, and we learned that mental retardation is the primary impact of the genetic defect that causes FXS. There are a number of other characteristics that are part of FXS that Adam also did not exhibit.

  278. kdez says:

    Worse than that – she took him to the shooting range regularly and taught him to use assault weapons. In what universe is that going to turn out well?

  279. karen says:

    An interesting caller (physician) to the Ed Show suggested that the coroner check Lanza for the tick-born virus. Apparently there have been some violent outbursts after receiving treatment. Whether or not this is just conspiracy or not, is something to consider. However, the coroner assured this particular physician that all tests possible would administered to determine causation.

  280. Patty says:

    Interesting article:

    “The mother of the Newtown shooter spent her last months alive criss-crossing the globe in a desperate search for a new home as she knew that ‘time was running out’.

    Nancy Lanza’s sister-in-law Marsha revealed that she had traveled to nine cities in three countries because she wanted out of the mansion she shared with her troubled son Adam – and could have known the end was coming”.

    I ask: Nancy Lanza left this troubled man alone while she traveled the globe???

  281. will says:

    God rest her soul, but Mrs. Lanza, at the very least, had some terrible lapses in judgment.

  282. Bob says:

    I have posted natal and progressed anlunar charts for Adam and his mother at this link. It is not necessary to become a member or log in to read posts.

  283. fierywoman says:

    I read he was vegan — perhaps the elongation of the face was because he was malnourished?

  284. Nita says:


    You are so right very bad judgment.

    Mrs. Lanza did not live on prairie or in some wilderness where she was far away from civilization.
    I don’t see the necessity for Mrs. Lanza to have such weapons in her home especially with a special needs young man that she could not influence why chance that this is unbelievable to me I can get my head around this.
    20 Mothers and 20 Fathers, of our little angels had their hearts broken with pain that you can’t comprehend not now or ever they are changed forever more until they meet their children again in heaven.
    6 Mothers and 6 Fathers also had their hearts broken for our Teacher Guardians whom cared so dearly for the little angels that they watched over each day and gave their lives for that is heroism.
    I personally know that pain I had a brother that was killed by being shot in the head he was a police officer, my mother’s heart broke and I do mean that it broke it has never healed and it has been 30 years.
    We must have common wisdom and apply it always when weapons are retain in our homes because when you are not carefully with dangerous weapons that can cause hurt or kill you change people’s lives forever with them.

    Mrs. Lanza I will prayer for her but I can only wish that she had made different chooses with the weapons she had in her home.
    While I type this the tears are streaming down my face because you never completely heal you learn to live with the pain it’s always there you simply deal with it because their gone from your embrace until you meet again in heaven.
    I know God has them all in his loving arms.

  285. Gypsi says:

    When my twins were 14, and they and my husband argued horribly, I waited til he went to work and all kids were at school, then I took both guns to the attic and buried them in the insulation (I’m not sure if they even “worked”) Two years after the divorce my ex called to ask where his guns were.

    She maybe couldn’t imagine, but I had a set of teenaged twins I wasn’t sure whether were bipolar, a husband pushing the edge, and I could imagine. And while both occasionally go to the range now, they are nearly 30, and I did not teach them to shoot. One of them re-taught me last year.

  286. Gypsi says:

    Copy of an upthread reply I just posted – as to whether a mother could think her child might be capable of murder:
    When my twins were 14, and they and my husband argued horribly, I waited til he went to work and all kids were at school, then I took both guns to the attic and buried them in the insulation (I’m not sure if they even “worked”) Two years after the divorce my ex called to ask where his guns were.

    She maybe couldn’t imagine, but I had a set of teenaged twins I wasn’t sure whether were bipolar, a husband pushing the edge, and I could imagine. And while both occasionally go to the range now, they are nearly 30, and I did not teach them to shoot. One of them re-taught me last year.

    And Will, I don’t know much about the stats on SSRI, but I believe zoloft is one? And while it may not be addictive, it takes a long slow weaning to get off of it without sinking into depression. Rather like quitting smoking. Both of which I have done. Certainly my temper was much worse when I gave up cigarettes. (I did not shoot anyone, but I think I threatened to shoot my truck once.)

  287. will says:


    Always good to have a soft-landing and ease-off of a medication like that. Not at all good to go cold-turkey. In the cases of many depressed, it is advised to not go off of SSRIs at all, as there is sufficient evidence that staying on them prevents future depressive episodes.

    Smart move burying guns in the rafters.

  288. will says:

    “…It is estimated that 40-45% of American households own a firearm, and that 30-35% of American adults own a firearm (…. According to the Small Arms Survey in 2007 (…), the US leads the world in firearms ownership with 88 firearms per 100 persons….
    This data is from the CDC web-site (….

    During the period 2008-2009, the last year for which complete data is available, there were 62,940 deaths in the US due to firearms, for a crude (non-age adjusted) rate of 10.29 deaths per 100,000 persons. If you lived in a city of 100,000 persons, you could expect that 10 of your neighbors would die from a firearm injury that year. 1,146 of these deaths were classified as “unintentional” (an accident), and 61,289 of these deaths were classified as “Violence-related” (presumably intentional).
    …86% of all firearm-related fatalities in children under the age of 15 occurred in the US. …

    The firearm-related homicide rate among US children was nearly 16 times higher than for children in all other countries combined………

    The firearm-related suicide rate was over ten times higher for US children than for children in all other countries combined. And the accidental (unintentional) firearm-related death rate for US children was nine times higher for US children than for other children combined. Children here in the US are on average ten times more likely to kill themselves using a gun, and nine times more likely to die by accidental firearm injury than children in other wealthy, industrialized nations.”

  289. fierywoman says:

    How to checkmate the NRA:

    “Let people of color start joining the NRA in droves and becoming gun nuts to protect our neighborhoods. Regulation would happen SWIFTLY.”

  290. Lorrie U says:

    Yes, a responsible person such as yourself takes precautions “just in case.”

  291. B.A. says:

    Kucinich and Sanders here:

    Published on Thursday, December 20, 2012 by Common Dreams
    Sen. Bernie Sanders: ‘Mr. President, I am Disappointed’
    Remember when President Obama promised not to cut Social Security


  292. Lorrie U says:

    Salemone – I think part of what we have needed to realize is that it is not the outer reflection of what the holiday season is, but the inner reflection of true spirituality. That comes with the acknowledgement of the over-commercialism and greed we see, the all-out emphasis on making money on the celebration. This recent tragedy also helps to point out what is really important, and that is those we love. We celebrate to keep our family traditions for the children. Most of us have experienced financial downsizing which precludes spending a lot on gifts, so we minimize by giving gifts more meaningful and less ostentatious. It’s okay to remember those who are suffering and share their sense of loss, but it’s also okay to celebrate your life and those of your loved ones and share this special time of year with them.

    I hope you and all the beautiful people who post here celebrate life with their loved ones during this holiday season to honor those who lost theirs. I think that’s what they would want.

  293. B.A. says:

    Kucinich and Sanders here:

    Published on Thursday, December 20, 2012 by Common Dreams
    Sen. Bernie Sanders: ‘Mr. President, I am Disappointed’
    Remember when President Obama promised not to cut Social Security


  294. Lorrie U says:

    That’s a good one!!

  295. Sharon says:

    My former boss, Herbert Lubs, M.D., is mentioned in the Fragile X article on wikipedia as one of the discoverers of fragile X (he described it in ’69). I worked for the Genetics Division of the U. of Miami School of Medicine for 14 years when he was the director. He made his discovery in ’69 and went on to study the genetics of dyslexia as well to catalogue X-linked mental retardation, both funded by NIH grants. It was a great experience for me. I wonder what he would have said about Adam Lanza—I haven’t seen Dr. Lubs in about 12 yrs.

  296. Sharon says:

    I should say one of the discoverers of the fra x gene.

  297. Patty says:

    Wishing all kind/gentle souls here on Nancy’s magical blog…A Magnificent Winter Solstice!

    While searching for more on this unique 12/21/12 Solstice, I came upon this Video. (The ‘Helical Solar System’ concept blew-me-away, a fact I hadn’t known: at 19:11)
    The video is an enchanting study of what I feel may be a powerful and momentous Winter Solstice. Check it out when you have time, it’s long.!

    Then, tonight at dinner, while sharing Solstice thoughts with my husband, I mentioned The Hundred Monkey Effect:!
    Then a flash…Sandy Hurricane, Sandy Hook, Sandy….

    Anyone else here feeling strange awareness?

  298. alex says:

    President Obama Responds to ‘We The People’ Petitions Related To Gun Violence

    Published on Dec 21, 2012

    In the days since the tragedy in Newtown, Americans from all over the country have called for action to deter mass shootings and reduce gun violence, and hundreds of thousands of people have signed petitions on’s We the People platform.

    In this video message, President Obama responds, explaining a comprehensive effort to come up with a broader set of serious proposals and encouraging Americans to continue their participation in this important process.

  299. alex says:

    When and by who was Fragile X Discovered?

    Fragile x syndrome was first described in 1943 by J.Purdon Martin and Julia Bell whose family had eleven members with fragile x symptoms although they did not know the cause or have a name for the condition at this time.

    In 1969, Fragile x was first discovered under the microscope by a scientist called Herbert Lubs who discovered that one of the arms of the X chromosome in people with fragile x was constricted which gave it the appearance of being broken which is how the name ‘fragile x’ came about.

    In 1991 Verkerk identified the cause for transcriptional silencing of the gene Fmr-1, that encodes the protein FMRP.

    Fragile X is a spectrum disorder it may result in no symptoms, mild learn disabilities or severe impairment.

  300. tetramorph says:

    Will, you are technically correct. However, SSRI’s do cause withdrawal symptoms. I have a friend who takes them for anxiety, and he claims stopping them is extremely uncomfortable days 7 to 10. He won’t try stopping use anymore. I can’t see Lanza taking meds for depression, but I can for anxiety.

  301. tetramorph says:

    Happy solstice, happy Galactic New Year everyone!

    Thanks for all you do!

  302. will says:


    Yes, it is not pleasant to suffer from returning symptoms when one discontinues the use of a an effective prescription It can be likened to a diabetic who stops taking insulin.

    Happy Solstice to you as well, Tetramorph….and to all. From today forward, the light increases.

  303. Noelle says:

    Oh, I think something is happening. I woke up this morning feeling cheerful and optimistic, We might not see it right away but I firmly believe that an energy shift is taking place and it’s for the positive.

    Sorry I don’t watch the above right now but I am a great believer in the hundred monkey theory.

  304. Noelle says:

    Hopefully, Will, that will be more than just daylight.

  305. will says:

    Indeed, Noelle….indeed.

  306. will says:


    Re: NRA enrolling minorities – Blacks, Hispanics; hilariously brilliant. Their cowardly asses would pucker-up and swallow themselves.

  307. Jackson says:

    I missed Wayne LaPierre’s press conference this morning, but from the comments in my Facebook feed, it was completely off-the-hook insane. Anyone see it and care to comment?

  308. connimac says:

    B.A., I love those two voices of conscience, Sanders and Kucinich, but they would serve us all well if they did not leap to premature conclusions. From DU:

  309. noel711 says:

    I guess it depends on the patient:
    I was on SSRIs for a while;
    it numbed me while going thru horrendous stress
    and grief. However, I couldn’t live without
    feeling my feelings. Couldn’t wait to stop
    taking them. And when I did, I felt free
    and alive.

  310. Wennye' says:

    Nita,I too lived through a gun killed tragedy. Husband killed in’71 at work by robbers at the food store he managed. I had to manage my own grief because of the kids ages(2-10). So the grief showed up in my dreams for many, many years. The kids are still scarred somewhat so having your babies relief from that ever. Be safe All.. at this Blessed time of love from our Eternal Parent.

  311. Gypsi says:

    Very good

  312. Lune Prière says:

    It was off-the-hook insane.