The Final Stretch: Romney

As the nation reels from Hurricane Sandy, and climate change trumpets its omnipresent threat once again, we are entering the final stretch of the 2012 election. The various polls are all over the map, enough to allow partisans on both sides to claim an edge.

For candidate Mitt Romney, there are mixed indications until November 12, and then the forecast turns increasingly grim, especially after November 20. To fully understand these trends, it is useful to look at two aspects from his natal and progressed charts.

The first of these is a natal Saturn (2Leo24) square to natal Chiron (8Scorpio20) which has  progressed to a very tight, waxing square with progressed Saturn at 3Leo36 square to progressed Chiron at 3Scorpio59 retrograde. The progressed square runs from 2008 through mid-2015, and will be profoundly intensified from October 28 through November 7, 2012, when transiting Saturn crosses it.  Essentially, it brings to a culmination the emotional complex suggested in the natal square.

According to Melanie Reinhardt in her seminal book on Chiron, Chiron and the Healing Journey, a Saturn/Chiron square implies a deep, personal wound relating to the father. She points to a struggle to be different from the father, often manifested by attempting to fulfill “the father’s unlived potentials, unconsciously trying to redeem him by fulfilling his unrealized ambitions”… and “redeem a negative inheritance from the father’s side of the family.”

As is well known, Mitt’s father, George Romney, ran for president and lost, ostensibly in part because he became fervently opposed to the Vietnam War, a liberal position at the time. As is less well known, the Mormon Church, with which both Romneys have been long associated, has a prophecy that one of their own will come to great power in the United States and save the nation, as well as bring Mormonism to significant prominence. With a natal Saturn square to Chiron beginning to build toward full fruition by progression, just as Romney began aggressively running for president, it is hard not to wonder if these ancestral and religious aspirations, as well as a drive to complete his father’s ambition to become president, have been a powerful motivating factor. If this is the implication in the progressed Saturn/Chiron square, it seems that the Saturn transit to this aspect from October 28 through November 7 would indicate a thwarting of that goal.

The second aspect relating to these issues in Romney’s chart is his 4th house Pluto (11Leo22), which suggests an intense power struggle in the family of origin, likely between Romney and one of his parents. Here the implication is of a very potent father figure with whom Mitt struggled to compete, most likely on an unconscious, emotional level. It leaves him with a need to dominate in situations and a tendency to feel subtly threatened when he is not. Natally, his Pluto is in opposition to Venus (8Aquarius33) which is conjunct the Midheaven (6Aquarius28), offering an outlet for Romney’s imperative to dominate through a successful business career (Venus/MC).

This configuration thus points to Romney’s push to be powerful and his tendency to do well in business as a way to live out that inner drive. As of November 20, transiting Saturn will begin to cross this configuration, beginning with a square to the MC (and sesquiquadrate the Sun) from November 20 through 29, followed by Saturn square to natal Venus from December 10 through December 20, and finally by squaring natal Pluto from January 13 through March 4, with all of the Saturn crossings returning in the spring and summer of 2013. To me, these Saturn transits suggest a frustration and failure of Romney’s drive for power.

There are a few uplifting and positive configurations in Romney’s chart, some of which continue for a brief time after the election. Most notably, Jupiter will square his Mercury (13Pisces55) from November 4 through November 12, and progressed Moon is sesquiquadrate to his natal Jupiter/Moon conjunction through November 20. Again, the possibility of confusion and delay at the time of the election would fit with this picture. Due to the hurricane, it is not impossible to imagine paper ballots being brought to places without power and taking significantly longer to tally, not to mention the mess likely to be created by all the new voter suppression laws.

But as of November 12, Jupiter will leave the aspect to Mercury, and Neptune will return to its waxing square to Romney’s Ascendant (00Gemini43). Moreover, Saturn will begin its quincunx to his Node (5Gemini29) followed by the long series of Saturn transits denoted above. There will also be some Jupiter transits in Romney’s chart in January (trine the MC and square to Mars).  But I continue to think that the overwhelming imperative of that 4th Pluto, and its frustration by the long Saturn station in January and February, suggest the failure of a years-long drive to finally overpower that inner father figure with whom he is forever competing.


  1. Fe says:

    From your keyboard to God’s ear. Now let’s get out the vote and pray for our people on the Eastern seaboard!

  2. starlight says:

    My power has been flickering, and so I have been racing against the clock to get this done before it goes out. I have no idea when it will return once down. So I didn’t spend as much time on this as I would have liked, but I thought it important to get it in. It sums up my opinion on why I think Romney will lose, despite a few Jupiter transits that show up here and there.

    If I can, I may add one other point. If I can’t, I may add it in the comments section with my iphone. :-)

  3. starlight says:

    On second thought, I will just post my addendum here: Sheldon Adelson has the Sun at 11Leo47 (at noon); Paul Ryan has the Sun conjunct Venus at 9 and 10 Aquarius. They will all be going through that Saturn transit together (Adelson, if he is born in the morning only, but definitely Ryan). I thought it interesting that Adelson has the Sun on Romney’s Pluto, strengthening Romney’s sense of power with his gold (the Sun).

  4. starlight says:

    Wind is picking up and getting louder. Makes me nervous given all the outages and destruction we have had in the past 6 months from wind.

  5. Jackson says:

    Thanks. Stay safe, Nancy.

  6. barbk says:

    I’m so sorry you have to go through this ordeal again Nancy, but thank you for this overview of Romney. I’d forgotten that his Chiron was conjunct the President’s Neptune. I suppose he is as confused by Pres. Obama as we are by him!

  7. Lorrie U says:

    The Boston Globe Endorses President Obama Over Their Former Gov Romney

    The Boston Globe is the paper that knows Romney’s elected leadership style best. The Salt Lake Tribune would be second in knowing Romney’s leadership style. It would be natural for both papers to have a loyalty to home stater Romney, but both papers went for President Obama.

  8. dlitlbird says:

    Nancy…stay safe and many thanks for all you do for us each day…..Nina

  9. Lorrie U says:

    Press Wakes Up to Romney’s Lies, Says There’s ‘no excuse’ for ‘astonishingly misleading’ Jeep Ad

  10. alex says:

    stay safe Nancy – you’re becoming a shelter in place storm expert;

  11. DPH says:

    Thanks for the great article, Nancy. Please stay safe!

  12. Lorrie U says:

    Romney’s Vultures Cash In On Auto Bailout, Tell GM And US Treasury ‘Give Us Our Money Or We Will Shut You Down’ (VIDEO)

    Romney may have argued “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” in his 2008 New York Times editorial, but he and his wife still managed to cash in a whopping $15.3 million from the auto industry bailout. In this week’s exposé for The Nation, “Mitt Romney’s Bailout Bonanza,” investigative journalist, Greg Palast, explains how Paul “the Vulture” Singer — Romney’s friend, business partner, major donor, and key campaign adviser — extorted $12 billion from US. taxpayers.

  13. M. says:

    Bless you Starlight. As i sit here waiting for the big hit I’m grateful for something else to think about. Just had a call from a relative in Michigan who is having a snow storm. I am also amused by all the references to a full moon tonight by people who ordinarily care two flips about the moon.

  14. Sharon says:

    Here’s a good link to the “imagine peace tower” that helps me focus when I’m trying to send Light to Nancy & others affected by the storm. Don’t forget to include Stephanie, whose parents live on Long Island while she lives in Manhattan, I believe, and there’s Michael who used to post under Michael from NYC, and anyone else we can think of. If you’re affected, please let us know what’s going on and remind us to pray for you and send you Love & Light!

  15. M. says:

    Take care, stay safe and may it be over soon.

  16. KIM says:

    Nancy, was wondering…is this your only site? Do you do readings for people? I would love to get my chart done sometime.

  17. cimbalok says:

    I see that George W. Bush has a Sun/Chiron square (-2 degrees, applying). He doesn’t have a Saturn/Chiron square, but isn’t the Sun also the father? I have always been fascinated and repulsed by GWB and I wonder if he is dealing with the same father & son issues as R$.

    I’m sending good vibes and prayers to you, Nancy, from Chicago and I know that soon you will be looking back at the Frankenstorm and saying, “Wasn’t that interesting, and I’m so glad it’s over!”

  18. starlight says:

    Chris from the political astrology blog compiled all of these predictions for the election from various astrologers. There is one who predicts a win for Romney due to the same Saturn aspects that I use to say he will lose. The idea is that he would have increased responsibility, which has some merit. My question on that is the Saturn transit square to Ryan and Romney’s Venus, which is quite stressful. Note we are now in a tr Saturn to pr Saturn/n.Venus trine in US chart, and see what this has brought!

  19. starlight says:

    I definitely do readings for people. Contact me at

  20. KIM says:

    Great!! I put you in my contacts. I will email you this weekend for prices and figure out what and when I want it done. Stay safe.

  21. omphale says:

    If election results are delayed by Republican voter suppression, I’m going to laugh. Instead of delivering the Presidency to Romney, they may have taken it from him. Any delays in the vote count are going to push Romney into his very difficult Saturn transits later in November to Pluto, Chiron, Venus. Looks really painful to me. Sorry….. I don’t have much sympathy for him. He’s hurt a lot of people, and Instant Karma’s going to get him……

  22. catsandmusic says:

    Sharon and all; please keep my family in your prayers. They are in PA, northwest of Philly, and are supposed to be hit by Sandy for several days. I am in Boston and we are hopeful that the worst is almost over up here. Hard to believe that just a week ago I was returning to Boston from visiting PA,riding Amtrak along the beautiful shore route that literally hugs the edge of Long Island Sound.I am sure much of the route is flooded now. May all of our site friends and their families be safe.

  23. teresahill says:

    New York City subways and tunnels connecting Manhattan to other areas now have extensive flooding. Standing water in the Battery area of Manhattan.
    It’s going to take a while to get this city back to work.

  24. fierywoman says:

    To everyone in the path of Sandy (from Mozart’s “Cosi’ fan Tutte” ):
    Soave sia il vento,
    Tranquilla sia l’onda,
    Ed ogni elemento
    Benigno risponda
    Ai nostri/vostri desir.
    VERY rough translation: That the wind be gentle, the waves tranquil, and that every element responds benignly to our desires.

  25. Noelle says:

    I’ve found that asking the angels to protect my house and the power lines coming into it and surrounding it with light work well for me. My sister’s are w/o power and so are three or four of my nieces but I’m fine so far. Give it a try if you are so inclined.

  26. chrys says:

    Greetings from nyc – most of my friends have no power – south of 40th street

    here is a message from the ny times a nig storm requires a big government …

    and my message to mr romney – its global warming stu…pid and guess what we need fema

  27. Lorrie U says:

    Breaking – Bloomberg News. Romney Laundered taxes through Mormon Church. Paid “NO” taxes for 15 years.

  28. fierywoman says:

    … which would explain why he refused to show his tax returns!

  29. will says:

    Terrific insights, Starlight. Many thanks for this contribution. I’m wondering if we have a repeat of 2000…where onns the popular vote and the other the electoral.
    I believe GWVs

  30. Lorrie U says:

    I hope this doesn’t get buried in news coverage of Sandy, not to mention that millions will not have power for days or more and will miss it.

  31. will says:

    GWB’s Chiron wound was when Newsweek’s cover plastered the word “Wimp” under GHWB’s
    Photo re: his handling of Hussein and the Persian Gulf War. Deep festering wound indeed.

  32. Ox the cat says:

    Romney just announced he will hold a relief concert for the hurricane victims tomorrow with some country singers. I wonder how this looks from an astrological perspective.

  33. Lorrie U says:

    Responses on Twitter are very negative.

  34. NEOBuckeye says:

    Does Romney even have an ounce of restraint? The storm hasn’t even passed yet! This totally makes him appear as an opportunist, just like his verbal assault on Obama after the attacks on the US embassy in Yemen. Terrible.

  35. Ox the cat says:

    My gut response was very negitive too.

  36. alex says:

    hey that’s a story; thought he would have hidden behind his Bishop status he hates paying taxes;

  37. alex says:

    Maryland Governor on the Ed Show said that after storm announced people came out in droves for early voting; and that they will restore as much early voting hours as they can as soon as the storm passes;

  38. teresahill says:

    He was asking for donations of canned food earlier. Only one problem. He forgot to ask the Red Cross if that was a good idea. RC doesn’t want donations that way. More trouble to get them to disaster areas than they’re worth.
    Need money and donations like tractor trailer loads of food.

  39. Su Llewellyn says:

    I said a very long and emotionally powerful Rosary last night for all of the people on the East Coast. I especially wanted you to know, Starlight, how grateful I am for the calmness you bring us!

  40. Ox the cat says:


  41. Salemone says:


  42. Todd Bennett says:

    As we stand here watching the best efforts of generations torn asunder by a merciless storm, I am reminded of why I am truly proud of my birthplace. For all of the talk about guns, and freedom, and patriotism, it is not the grandstanding, or the opportunism that makes one an American.

    No you see it is the quiet hero, giving his life for someone he never met. It is the dispatcher, anonymous and sometimes forgotten, but an indispensable asset in the effort to protect our people. I am not only proud because I believe that I can look myself in the mirror and honestly feel good about who is in charge, though that is admittedly indeed part of it. I am proud because everyday I am reminded that while waters may rise, the enduring truth of our country the rise of an ocean is temporary, the rise of our nation is eternal.

    The waters will recede America. The winds will calm. And while there exists a cold truth that there will be much damage to repair, the warmth in our hearts, will temper that chill. We will rebuild, America. New York will return even more formidable. We will be steadfast and unified, in our efforts to restore what falls. Red and Blue we will toil together because that is what we do and that is who we are. Ultimately we will prevail because of a realization that while our native birth we claim citizenship, it is only through our deeds that we earn the title of American.

    Though we are sometimes ragged, and occasionally divided, our Eagle will always soar, and our Flag will always fly not just because a great President says so, but because the weary nurse does. The mechanic does. The first responder does. These are the heroes who embody America. They are truly giants, and we stand on their shoulders. It is only through their sacrifice in the shadows that we are all able to bask in the light. It is because of their deeds, a precocious nation perseveres. It is because of their deeds, a challenged nation, never fears.

  43. Ox the cat says:

    What yu have written is truly beautiful and moving.

  44. loyalurker says:


    I think the recovery and rebuilding will take a very long time. Wall St. is virtually shut down too, along with much of NYC, N.J. and Deleware…ETC. All our coasts are the front lines for the massive effects of global warming.

    Starlight, you have remarkable heart and discipline to have written such an insightful piece with a major storm bearing down. I wish you and yours safety.

  45. Todd Bennett says:

    Here is my video. If you want to make it viral it may make people feel better. I hope so.

  46. Patty says:

    Lorrie, How interesting! I couldn’t get to the Raw Story link. Here’s the Bloomberg link:

  47. Rose says:

    Hi, Nancy,

    Hope you’re doing okay. Please let us know as soon as you can how you fared. You know we’re all thinking about you and holding you in the light.

  48. angellight says:

    Oxthecat: Did a tarot reading for Romney yesterday, and I got the Ace of Cups; I knew he was up to something and this relief concert is the Ace a blessing. We Dems know it is a ploy and yet some who are low-information voters will think he’s great. I know b/c an old freind of mine who I have not spoken to in months called to see how we were fairing in the storm. She said she was liking Romney, although she is on Social Security do an injury she sustained. I explained to her what Mitt was all about. She was surprised. She said she didn’t really watch a lot of news shows or do a lot of reading so she didn’t know. All she went by was his debate performance wherein he said he could produce jobs.

  49. Bob says:

    We have to keep bumping it up to the progressive radio and TV hosts and network TV. If we could get the Obama camp or Move On to start a petition to send to MSM we could probably generate millions of online signatures in just 24 to 48 hours. How would MSM (TV news) explain failure to cover it?

    Remember my post about tomorrow and Nov 3 being very bad for Romney?

  50. angellight says:

    Starlight & Group: Blessings. Hope all faired well through the storm. I like you Noelle still have lights though not far from me electricity is off.

    Azizi: Could not find that beautiful post of yours about Storm Issac affecting Romney and now Sandy, was going to post that today.

    Lorrie U: Thanks for those two awesome links which I work on today, posting at several sites — the avoidance of taxes for 15 years and the one where he blackmailed GM. Palast has a great audio on it also found on Current TV.

    Omphale: My sentiments exactly. I don’t like the man; and can’t wait for Karma to say him I got you now. He really has exploited and hurt a whole lot of people. I think of those Chinese women in sweatshops housed behind a barbed wire. That makes me sick.

  51. angellight says:

    Lorrie U: I am reading the story on the Grio about missing votes in Florida in Democratic Broward County. That makes me sick. May be it is good to vote early so they can catch the discrepancies early. What do you think?

  52. Lisa L. Robinson says:

    NEOBuckeye: Good post about Romney’s lack of restraint and no sadly he doesn’t have any restraint because he has no core and zero compassion. He is showing us what he is made of and I strongly suggest we believe him.

    Starlight and all who are affected by Sandy you are all in my thoughts and prayers. Starlight thank you as always for sharing your astrological wisdom with us. I don’t think I would have made it during the last presidential election if I hadn’t found this site by a wonderful stroke of serendipity.

    Gov. Christie actually sounded like a real human being this AM on Morning Joe. He offered real and geninue praise on how well PBO is showing leadership in his handling the diaster relief of Sandy, especially for New Jersey. (Guess who is going to taken to the woodshed today by Rush Limbaugh)! FEMA looks real good right now for a whole lot of people who want to cut FEMA out of the federal government.

    As usual Romney makes a fool of himself stating he wanted FEMA to go the indivdual states and then even better, privatize FEMA. Way to go Mitt, it’s always about a profit for you and your buddies. Privatize FEMA! Wow, just wow. Just when I think he can’t possibly sink any lower, he proves me wrong yet again.

    Starlight you got me through McCain and Palin, let’s go two for two! Thanks again for all you do.

  53. karen says:

    Nancy, this latest describes an aspect of Romney that chills me to the bone, that messianic complex, the god messenge without compassion, without any sensibility of the “other,” which allows him to mecurically change his message — a transparent pretense.

    I add my love and light to all of you affected. My son-in-law, visiting NYC, had to be rushed to the hospital on Saturday. There he remains, but I’m uncertain if he was in one of the hospitals that had to be evacuated.

    The wind in the mountains of Tennessee are a steady 20 to 30 mph, gusting up to 50. This is the third day of it, and we remain under an advisory. That’s how large the scope of this storm.

  54. Anita in MD says:

    Beautiful! I shared on FB and Twitter.

  55. Elizabeth says:

    Yet, another example of Romney’s hollow center and complete lack of any personal character.

  56. starlight says:

    This is complete nonsense. If Romney picks SC judges, they will be conservative and tip the balance. He has no power over what cases will come to court, and you can bet the right will get a case there to overturn Roe.

  57. starlight says:

    I am hoping that the end of the messianic complex (and his defeat) comes with the end of the Neptune transit square his Ascendant in December. The recent polls are making me nervous. I keep reminding myself that I predicted Democrats would be nervous wrecks through about November 3.

  58. starlight says:

    I hope I am right. Things were far clearer during the last election. My prediction is based on the assumptions that Romney would feel uplifted and empowered were he to win and not feel burdened by responsibility, at least initially, and that Obama would be unhappy to lose and not relieved and content to go home after a difficult four years.

  59. starlight says:

    We still have power, just a mess to clean up. We kept cleaning the basement drain of leaves and mud, so we managed to not have a flood. So far, so good. It is still windy, but we are feeling more secure.

  60. Diane L says:

    Excellent! Glad you all are safe w/few problems. Heard comments from newscasters expressing surprise the storm lived up to or surpassed expectations . . . Mercury-Neptune sq fluff was trumped by a dead serious Taurus-Scorpio lunar axis. Looong clean up for many. :(

  61. will says:

    The Creep Will Indeed Say and Print Anything

    Starlight – to your “Final Stretch” point about “Willard the Rat.” – This is tres diabolique.

    TOLEDO, Ohio — The ad from Mitt Romney showed up on televisions here early Saturday morning without the usual public announcement that both campaigns typically use to herald their latest commercials: Chrysler, a bailout recipient, is going to begin producing Jeeps in China, an announcer says, leaving the misleading impression that the move would come at the expense of jobs here.

    And so began the latest, and perhaps most important, attempt by Mitt Romney to wrest Ohio into his column. His effort to do so is now intently focused, at times including statements that stretch or ignore the facts, on knocking down what is perhaps the most important component of President Obama’s appeal to blue-collar voters in Ohio and across the industrial Midwest: the success of the president’s 2009 auto bailout.

    More at

  62. starlight says:

    The fatal meningitis epidemic sweeping the United States can now be traced to the failure of then-Gov. Mitt Romney to adequately regulate the Massachusetts pharmaceutical company that is being blamed for the deaths.

    At least 344 people in 18 states have been infected by the growing public health crisis and 25 have died so far.

    But the epidemic may also play a role in the presidential campaign, now that state records reveal that a Massachusetts regulatory agency found that the New England Compounding Co., the pharmaceutical company tied to the epidemic, repeatedly failed to meet accepted standards in 2004 — but a reprimand was withdrawn by the Romney administration in apparent deference to the company’s business interests.

    “It goes all the way up to Mitt Romney,” said Alyson Oliver, a Michigan attorney representing victims of the outbreak. According to Oliver, on at least six occasions, NECC was cited by authorities for failure to meet regulatory standards and almost subjected to a three-year probation. “It goes directly to the heart of what Romney says about regulation, ‘Hands off. Let the companies do their thing.’”

  63. starlight says:

    The man is a liar and an opportunist. Kerry was tagged with “flip flopper” for one statement, one that meant really nothing. Romney has flipped on everything, and yet he is not tagged with his endless deceit and lack of core? The media is completely failing us if he can get away with what he has said and done. In any other election, he would have been gone by now.

  64. ZerodegreesLeo says:

    I’m wondering if the latest tax return news regarding Mitt (Bloomberg’s piece) will get out into the MSM before the election? This could be the one that sinks his candidacy I would think. What do you think Starlight? Is there indication of a revelation at this time? On a different note: So happy that you came out of the storm relatively ok. I’m very sad to witness what has happened to so many of us in the last 24 hours.

  65. will says:

    Starlight – devastating menengitis piece for Willard the Romney Rat.

    Every once in a while, a magnificent piece of dirt like this comes up at just the right time. I realize it could be campaign smear tactics and hyperbole, but if this story grows legs, you can stick a fork in Rat Romney – he’s done!

  66. alex says:

    good news Nancy – glad you are secure;

    there are six conservative ( or extreme ) corporations that own vertically (or horizontally) every other media venue – the whole oligarchy is six corporations and their majority shareholders;

    they are the devil’s handmaiden and by that I mean Omen-Damion-Mitt;

    Mitt’s Zombie image

  67. JA says:

    This has infuriated me! What can we do about this? It is reprehensible that he gets away with this.

  68. alex says:

    The Obama volunteers huddled separately from the Romney volunteers. Clutching clipboards, they spoke frenetically and plucked cookies from a catered display for quick nourishment.

    Elections experts say the scale of this latest mistake and the electoral importance of Florida, plus Palm Beach County’s infamy, have rightly turned the nation’s eyes to South Florida once again.

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  70. Ox the cat says:

    It is sad isn’t it that people do not see through him but I still feel he will not win in the end.

  71. Azizi says:

    angellight, did you mean that you were going to give the link to a post about Storm Issac affecting Romney and now Sandythat I and others might like?

    I didn’t publish any post about those subjects. My latest post whose link I shared in starligth’s Frakenstorm post was this one:
    Soulful Sounds In Honor Of “Souls To The Polls” Early Voting Efforts

    My thoughts and prayers for all those who are in the huge area where the storm hit. I’m from Atlantic City, New Jersey and have family members who I’ve heard from and some who I believe didn’t leave and haven’t heard from yet :o(

    I hope that they are alright.

  72. Azizi says:

    That was supposed to be a frown, not a smile.

  73. Lana says:

    Nancy, it is amazing that you have produced this piece about Romney with all that had been going on.

    I held my breath before coming back to the blog, and was pleased to hear that you are safe, and very interested to read your analysis of Romney’s character and the role of Chiron in his chart.

    Continuing good wishes, and a contribution of love and light towards the aftermath and reconstruction in New York.

  74. catsandmusic says:

    Oh one of my favorites–have been known to play it for an entire afternoon! Grazie

  75. starlight says:

    Unfortunately, there have been at least a dozen stories that should have ended Romney’s career but haven’t. They would have in any other election.

    Just from the last few months: the European trip; the 47% tape; the lies about Jeep; the initial reaction to the Libya attack; the obscene flip flopping in the debates; the bullying in the second debate (Remember Gore’s eye roll?). These are just off the top of my head.

  76. catsandmusic says:

    I knew that this would go back to R$$ somehow. I was thinking more that it would be tainted ingredients from a Chinese supplier (as in prior drug mishaps) with ties to Mitt, but it was much closer to home. Gotta create that favorable business climate, esp for big donors.

    By the way the owners of the pharmacy had donated 10K to Scott Brown’s campaign, which when made public, he donated to the Meningitis Foundation. Totally nauseating…

  77. starlight says:

    For those of you who are good at figuring things like this out, I would love to know where Obama is the evening of October 31, tomorrow, at 9:30 PM. The question is: will he be in DC for his solar return? It would wonderful if he is.

    Thanks for all the good wishes and prayers from everyone! We dodged a bullet this time.

  78. Rose says:

    R$ is refusing to answer questions about FEMA from the reporters covering his “storm relief” event. He just pretends that he doesn’t hear them. Here’s the link:

    Note to R$: Don’t piss off the press, honey. They bite.

  79. Todd Bennett says:

    Starlight is it safe to say, what with the Governor Christie that I am likely right about that bump in the polls for POTUS to close this thing out? At least looking as the aspects plus the unfolding events, is that why our angst decreases, little effect on voting plus better rounds of results?

  80. starlight says:

    Maybe in the last couple of days, when Saturn moves away, before election. Also Romney will have that Chiron Saturn aspect getting stronger through November 7. It would be wonderful if we could have a result on the night of November 6, but I am having doubts.

    This is how Romney handled disaster relief as governor. This is an important story to spread and hope the media picks up:

  81. Salemone says:

    According to Huffpo, Obama will remain in DC to monitor the disaster.

    Hope you are well, Startlight. Stay safe.

  82. Todd Bennett says:

    True, but there may be little polling to indicate anything until the 3rd. I think the outcome is still clear on 11-6 for POTUS’s re-election.

  83. Salemone says:

    I am wondering with all the massive power outages, if some states will have to print out paper ballots for the election. Or put off voting until this is resolved.(how can they print without power?) I don’t know if this country has ever faced such a mess during a major election and I don’t know if there are any plans in place to handle it.

  84. angellight says:

    Romney’s Jeep-to-China lie earns brutal headlines in Ohio

    The Morning Plum: Romney’s Jeep-to-China lie earns brutal headlines…

    Plus being critizied because his hurricane relief rally has now turned into a Political Rally. This man knows no shame; first class sleazebag. I am being too kind.

  85. starlight says:

    I am hoping he leaves on Thursday morning and not Wednesday night. The lunar return for DC is excellent with aspects to both Ascendant and MC. Any small sign like this is a great relief!

  86. Brenda says:

    Nancy, I am not sure I understand your request re PBO and being in DC for 10/31/12 for “solar return”…did you mean lunar return or do I misunderstand the concept?

  87. Rose says:

    I wonder what happened to his handlers? He seems to have slipped the leash…

  88. angellight says:

    Todd Bennett: I hope Mitt running away from answering pertinent policy questions gets some traction. Voters have a right to know what he would do.

    Starlight: I wonder if I should tweet your comments about Prez in DC for his solar return to his personal secretary?

  89. Rose says:

    Er … lunar return … his birthday is in August ….

  90. Lunagardener says:

    World War II Veteran Ralph Maxwell says 4 More Years!

    What a wonderful and wise man…..

  91. M. says:

    In reading the compilation of astrologer, one hit me between the eyes, the one by Bernadette Brady & Darrelyn Gunzberg. I’ve heard that morning star and the 2008/2012 prediction from other sources a couple of years ago.

  92. M. says:

    No disrespect Nancy, but stop second guessing yourself (unless you are a Libra like me and do it all the time). Your work is honest, forthright and has integrity to back it up. When you get nervous, do what I do…go to Nate Silver’s 538.

  93. angellight says:

    Newspaper articles, TV reporters and Twitter is ablaze with all the lies Mitt has been telling! I believe that Mitt has told one to many lies and it is finally catching up to him. If he has any saving grace it is the voting machines that he and his son own and the shenigans from Republican governors.

  94. clymela says:

    WELL!!! Thank you for this wonderful article even if i only realized this morning that I hadn’t read it. I skip to the end and read “up”and just thought that people couldn’t get in because they had no electricity. I am simply demanding that Obama wins-the only reason Romney could win is that he is soooooo white.

  95. Apple says:

    Is there any indication that the Democrats will hang on to their Senate majority?

  96. Elizabeth says:

    Nancy, I just heard that President Obama will be going to NJ tomorrow to access damage but that doesn’t necessarily mean he won’t be back in DC on Wednesday night.

  97. virgo says:

    I think he will be back in D.C. Wednesday night because I heard he will resume campaigning Thursday.

  98. Sharon says:

    …or for some other nefarious reason like stealing and obstructing votes.

  99. kdez says:

    Must be lunar. Prez is a Leo…

  100. Lorrie U says:

    Thank you for the inspiring words! Very beautiful! Shared video on FB & Twitter.

  101. Noelle says:

    Thank you Su Llewellyn. My power just came back and all I could think to say was “Thank you, God”. It’s just amazing how almost everything we do depends on power. I’m one happy woman right now.

  102. Lorrie U says:

    I agree! It is very disturbing, but hopefully glaring enough to catch attention. Have to make a ruckus about these things because MSM won’t address it.

  103. Noelle says:

    Amen, M. He will win.

  104. Lorrie U says:

    Aahhh, shades of Todd Bennett at work??

  105. Lorrie U says:

    That’s exactly what I was thinking, Starlight. If even just one of these stories were attributed to Pres. Obama, there would have been outrage all over the place and he would have been skewered by the msm.

  106. KIM says:

    I was thinking it probably will….But I am sharing on FB everywhere

  107. KIM says:

    So what exactly does that mean if he is in DC Wednesday night?

  108. barbk says:

    Tomorrow the Sun will be conjunct Pres. Obama’s Neptune, and it will also be conjunct Romney’s Chiron. Somehow I just can’t get past the idea that Romney is a gift from God and the only reason he exists is to make Barack Obama look more presidential. Tomorrow the President will be compassionate I’m sure (Sun conjunct natal Neptune) and Romney will likely try to wound.

    A small note but interesting from my perspective, is that Friday the Sun will conjunct the Uranian Point Poseidon, the mythical ruler of the sea, and is credited with “uplifting people”. The next day the Sun will conjunct TNO Deucalion whose myth is similar to Noah in that he was the last man left after a great flood. The day after that the Sun will conjunct TNO Ceto, Greek for sea monster. Perhaps there will be a news report or two that focuses on these themes in relation to Sandy’s aftermath.

  109. Bob says:

    Transit Mars will conjoin transit Pluto on Nov 27. The eclipse occurs on Nov 28.

    The conjunction of Mars and Pluto will square Romney’s progressed Neptune, oppose Rove’s natal Uranus, square Dubya’s progressed Neptune, square Laura Bush’s natal Neptune, and conjoin the Bush twins progressed Moon.

    For Rove this configuration (Mars, Pluto, Uranus) is on or in square to his progressed demi-solar demi-anlunar Asc or MC whether they are located to Denver, CO, Austin, TX, or Washington, DC around the 29th.

  110. starlight says:

    Sorry – Meant lunar return for tomorrow night at 9:30 in DC, not solar. The lunar return happens once a month and is a small indicator of the coming month. Again, I mostly note if there are strong aspects to the angles or the Moon, otherwise, I ignore them. Obama’s in DC is particularly nice. In any event, there is a Moon/Venus trine which is quite tight, and a Venus T-square to Uranus and Pluto. In DC, there is the added square of Venus to the Ascendant and Jupiter to the Midheaven, both very tight.

    Not much in Romney’s lunar this month.

  111. pisca says:

    Good to know Rove’s location doesn’t matter; he’s in election travel mode…. follow the voting machines!

  112. starlight says:

    That is exactly where I do go to calm down.

  113. JA says:

    Nancy, Does it explain in Romney’s chart why nothing sticks? It is ridiculous.

  114. Lorrie U says:

    The more I observe Romney–his wild, crazy laugh, his blatant ability to lie, his fast-talking blabbering–seems like a man who is bordering on a manic split. I think his desire to win and his fear of losing is driving him to a breaking point, almost like a breakdown or meltdown on the verge of manifesting. No wonder Ann Romney seems concerned about his mental health, I think she sees it, too.

  115. starlight says:

    He is a control freak. When things seem out of his control, he starts to get edgy and pushy.

  116. starlight says:

    Not sure. He seemed to do particularly badly when the Neptune square was strong, but at the same time, the same Neptune helps him be whoever people want him to be. I am counting on the Neptune station going direct in November to cause all his fantasies to dissipate. If there really aren’t many polls in the next few days, maybe he will think it is in the bag and then it won’t be.

  117. Cha says:

    Thank you, Nancy, again, for your astrological insight!

    Saw that about the “Lunar Return” but didn’t it Help that Pres Obama was in D.C. for his Solar Return on August 4, 2012?

    I’m like everyone else of kindred spirit..just anxious and obsessive about hoping for the President to be re-elected.

  118. JA says:

    Check this,


    ..I just don’t understand why this is not a runaway election for Obama. Romney has offered nothing but untruths, the latest being so boldfaced that Chrysler itself came out and called him on it! And still, the race is neck and neck. What is wrong with the American people? How can people vote for someone that they can’t trust, can’t offer a detailed economic plan and can’t show your tax returns? And I won’t even go into women’s rights, healthcare, social security and medicare. What is wrong with this picture.( NYT’s)

  119. Bob says:

    If there is skulduggery involving the voting machines I can understand Romney’s and Rove’s charts but unless the elections of 2000 and 2004 are tied in to things in some way I don’t understand the Bush family charts. Perhaps if Rove is seriously injured or killed in an accident, has a heart attack (or some other health issue [but Mars-Pluto to Uranus seems to indicate something violent]), or perhaps resists arrest, they would be unhappy or worried.

    Forgot to mention why I have been looking at this period of time for years. With the Bush and Rove transits the Mars-Pluto conjunction will be conjunct progressed Mars from the 9-11 attacks. I was hoping that they would be arrested or found guilty in relation to that day in some way.

    With the election over I did Romney’s charts for that late Nov time period and his demi-solar progressed demi-anlunar brings the Mars-Pluto and his progressed Neptune to the angles followed several days later with natal and progressed Saturn’s (squared by transit Saturn) and Pluto’s to the angles.

    “Indeed. Romney’s progressed Neptune is and will be at 188°15?. At the time of the eclipse it will be squared by transit Pluto at 278°41?. His natal Neptune is at 189°45?. At the time of the eclipse it will be squared by transit Mars at 279°36?. The eclipse itself falls at 64°55?, within 1 degree of Romney’s natal Sun-Pluto midpoint at 63°55?. At the same time his natal Saturn at 124°49’ is squared by eclipse Saturn at 214°48?. (fixed the transposition from earlier post)

    His progressed demi-solar demi-anlunar has an MC of 16°44? in Belmont, MA. His progressed Saturn is on the Asc there at 16°40?. The Nadir of that chart is 215°31?. It is conjoined by eclipse Saturn at 214°48?. Party at Mitt’s house.”

  120. teresahill says:

    Hasn’t he normally been at the White House handing out candy on Halloween?

  121. NEOBuckeye says:

    I’m with Diane, Nancy. Glad you are okay.

  122. NEOBuckeye says:

    The irony in Romney’s fingerprints on this is the fact that Meningitis destroys the brain. Clearly, Romney and the Republicans don’t want people to use their brains at all when looking at his track record and what he would do for the country.

  123. NEOBuckeye says:

    The Toledo Blade is reliably liberal, whereas the Cleveland Plain Dealer generally leans to the right but still endorsed Obama. People on the northern half of the state know what the auto industry has meant to them. They also aren’t so easily duped by the whole anti “big government” meme that originated in the south. In an area whose fortunes have risen and fallen with the auto industry, the bailout sold very well here. It’s not surprising at all that both the Blade and the Plain Dealer would call out R$ on his disgusting BS.

  124. NEOBuckeye says:

    Maybe the Bushes give Rove a “headache” of the sort that prevents him from speaking for a very, very long time. If his dirty dealings were to ever be fully exposed, it could implicate the whole Bush family up to and including Poppy himself. If Rove can’t talk… well then, that kinda takes care of the problem.

    I’m not wishing any ill-will on Rove. Only justice. He richly deserves to be forced to spill his guts on everything nasty he has ever done and then live out the rest of his life in prison cell like the despicable rat he is.

  125. NEOBuckeye says:

    I still think a lot of the “neck ‘n neck” stuff is the corporate-controlled American media. They love portraying the presidential election as a horse race because it keeps people glued to their screens, translating into bigger bucks from advertisers. If Obama really is leading, they would do their best to conceal this fact to make the campaign more exciting, not to mention in the hopes of giving R$ and his backers confidence that they might actually be able to win.

    But let’s also talk about Neptune. Romney is the epitome of a shape-shifting Pisces, the sign ruled by Neptune. No one can truly pin him down on anything, and even when you do try, he changes his position immediately and so often that you can’t get a firm grip on him, much like a slippery fish. Even he himself probably really doesn’t know who he is or what he truly believes. As others have remarked, his central identity is so weak, he really has no core sense of self or values, and this is what makes it possible for others to project whatever they want onto him, as well as what enables him to do so many things that are harmful to others. This is the extreme negative manifestation of Neptune, where lies and deception–both the person’s own and others–distort an image to the extreme. I’d go as far as to argue that Romney lies as much as he does because he has no concept of his own truth.

  126. fierywoman says:

    He can’t see the big picture if it’s anything beyond his little provincial world and he has no imagination whatsoever.

  127. fierywoman says:

    F-ing brilliant!

  128. fierywoman says:

    I agree that these were egregious — but in order to understand what they imply, one has to actually have the ability to reason. The Meningitus thing, however, is quite direct… (where there’s life there’s hope!)

  129. fierywoman says:

    Or with Chiron, R$ might be wounded …

  130. alex says:

    Wisconsin GOP poll watchers are getting incredibly wrong information in their training sessions.

    The Obama Campaign has asked that Wisconsin Attorney General JB Van Hollen (Republican) to look into the obvious and incorrect voter suppression tactics that GOP poll watchers are being taught.

  131. Apple says:

    This hands-off approach has become the Republican and Libertarian meme. No regulations – free market decides. But how many people is it permissible to harm/kill before that free market responds? 10s. 100’s. 1000s. It doesn’t have to be this way. I hope this story puts the stake in R’s candidacy.

  132. Salemone says:

    Then there are the ‘Meth’ house documents..on Frontline tonight.

  133. Bob says:

    Finally have time to catch up.

    Glad that you have not been hurt Nancy and hope that your home has not taken too much of a beating from the storm and that you have power so you don’t have to write your next thread by lantern light.

    I added my prayers for the safety and aid for those who may need it to those of many others.

  134. Diane L says:

    The best liars are those who truly believe their lies . . . if that makes sense. The current square from tNeptune to Romney’s ASC-DES axis exacerbates the whole situation.

    Waaaay too much Neptune in this election. Remember PBO’s elevated Neptune widely sq his Sun.

  135. teresahill says:

    Okay, not this year. Halloween at the White House cancelled.

  136. fierywoman says:

    Re the neck and neck — let’s remember that the media is owned by R$’s ilk, the 1% who will do *anything* for money.

  137. Ox the cat says:

    I feel the same way I almost feel like he could have a public breakdown, like he is inches from a public breakdown. I don’t really think that he will have a public breakdown but I have felt for awhile that the potential was there. I would assume that given the length of their marriage she is acutely aware of his limitations.

  138. alex says:

    The Democratic candidates for Senate in Florida, Ohio and Virginia are leading their Republican challengers, according to the latest Quinnipiac University/New York Times/CBS News polls of likely voters

    Senator Sherrod Brown, Democrat of Ohio

    In Virginia former governor Tim Kaine

    In Florida, Senator Bill Nelson

  139. Michael from nyc says:

    Sharon thank you for your kind words! I’m lucky that my apartment was spared and I’ve got power and a net connection. But it seems almost everyone I know in long island, manhattan and jersey are sitting in the dark – so even though the subways are gone si I can’t complain.

    I’m in Brooklyn but I’m going to attempt to walk over the bridge into manhattan to see if my studio/office got flooded. Of course I’ll be bringing a flashlight. I hope everyone else is holding up…

    PS thank you nancy for coming to manhattan – it was great to see you and everyone else!

  140. angellight says:

    To all who are safe you are lucky. I know your hearts go out to those who have suffered at the hands of Sandy. Many, many people are in devastation. I am so angry at CNN Dana Bash who believes Obama is playing politics with the devastion he has witnessed in many of the New Jersey seaside towns. Anyone with a heart bleedes for those individuals and familes.!

    Neobuckeye: “I’d go as far as to argue that Romney lies as much as he does because he has no concept of his own truth.” == quite an observation.

    I too think Romney is manic. You know you can go mad from evil deeds. Karma has a way of catching up to one.

  141. angellight says:

    Romney ‘charity’ work goes only to swing states; is donating relief supplies to swing/GOP states (VA, NC, NH, PA), NOT areas hit hardest (NJ, NY)

  142. barbk says:

    angelight, you make a good point “I too think Romney is manic”. Perhaps he has an undiagnosed bi-polar problem that his wife Ann is aware of.

  143. Edria Jeffs says:

    First of all, blessings to all of you affected by Frankenstorm! Also, please know that even though some of us are far away, our prayers are being sent speedily to all. Secondly, thank you all for your wonderful, thought provoking and inspirational comments and links that have served to inform and enrich my awareness. A special thanks to you Nancy for possessing a great gift and using it as a beacon to enlighten the world. This storm just seemed to come out of nowhere, but is it a game changer? The link below reflects what Lisa Robinson stated about Romney’s stance on FEMA. If everyone in the country knew about this stance, I think the game would be over for him!
    Did Mitt Romney suggest eliminating FEMA?

  144. pisca says:

    I guess there’s more than one way to say “public option”…. the anti-ACA people won’t like this:

  145. Nina says:

    I seriously doubt he will leave the Eastern seaboard before the weekend; too much storm coordination and it’s easier for people to find him if he doesn’t move around.

  146. Nina says:

    As an elections official in Maryland, I can tell you that we have a plan in place. Voting precincts without power will either be told to vote in nearby locations that do have power, or they will have enough provisional ballots to handle 10% more votes than last general election.

    Most polling places are in schools or government buildings that have plans in place to get back and running in case of emergency. And we’ve got 6 more days to clear out the debris and get things rolling.

    Now, it may still be a bit difficult to move around in rural areas of Pennsylvania and in West Virginia, which may have the effect of shifting the votes there more to the blue side. Urban areas tend to get roads cleaned up faster and power back quicker.

  147. Nina says:

    “Official” is a strong word, now that I read that. I’m a local precinct elections judge, which means I sit at the desk and check your name in the voting register.

  148. Nina says:

    Nate Silver is forecasting over 90% probability that the Senate remains Democratic. (click on the Senate tab on the left under FiveThirtyEight Forecast)

    He predicts that they’ll lose a bit of margin, and be at 52 or 53 seats.

  149. JA, I could have written that word-for-word and wonder the same thing myself. I don’t get why nothing sticks, why others cannot see through him, why the blind hatred of President Obama (who has been, IMO, a wonderful presence at a time of massive shifts and changes in consciousness) – I just don’t get it.

    My hope is that this isn’t a close election and that a lot of this neck and neck stuff is a media apparition made for $$$. I’ll sincerely be beside myself if things break for Romney. I can’t even entertain that thought.

    (off to take her meds which are clearly needed)

    Thanks, Nancy, for the post. I trust you without hesitation.

  150. angellight says:

    pisca: Great find to twitter, facebook, blogs! Have to get the word out on this.

  151. janet says:

    Michael from NYC: Glad to know that you are okay. Fingers and heart cross that your studio fared well.

  152. Apple says:

    Thank you both; that news helps the blood pressure.

  153. Cappy says:

    Right on NEO…if i remember correctly, Nancy said Romney has no compass—No True North. Lord Help Us….

  154. angellight says:

    “The Romney Dossier is truly explosive. An open history of fraud and corruption. People are pointing at Buzzfeed, but others who may have been annoyed by the endorsement of Romney by John Mccain are under suspicion.

    Whoever leaked the Romney dossier wants him damaged. Just for a taster – Mitt Romney was on the board of a company fined $119 million for Medicare Fraud – at the time, the largest criminal fine for Health Care Fraud in US history. He still walked away with a $470k personal profit from that corrupt company.” via @dailykos

  155. alex says:

    Deucalion – mythology

    It was named for Deucalion, son of Prometheus, who, along with his wife Pyrrha, daughter of Epimetheus and Pandora, survived a flood Zeus sent to destroy the human race in an ark Prometheus advised Deucalion to build. (The parallels with the Biblical legend of Noah and the Mesopotamian legend of Utnapishtim found in the Epic of Gilgamesh should be clear.)

    After the flood receded and Deucalion and Pyrrha disembarked from the boat, the goddess Themis appeared to them and told them to “veil their heads and cast behind them the bones of their mother.” After puzzling over the oracle, they decided that Themis meant for them to don veils and throw rocks (the bones of Mother Earth) behind them, which they did.

    The rocks became people when they hit the ground, the rocks thrown by Deucalion becoming men and the rocks thrown by Pyrrha becoming women, and in this way the human race was brought back from extinction.

  156. alex says:

    great catch – thanks angelight

  157. starlight says:

    This fact needs to be stressed everywhere: it is not just that Romney doesn’t believe in public disaster relief and probably wouldn’t do much to keep FEMA strong, it is that he and his supporters (and funders) don’t believe in climate change!!! His policies actively dismiss it!! He wants to end subsidies for alternative fuels; he wants to keep subsidies for oil and expand exploration; he wants to get rid of restrictions that protect the environment; and he probably won’t push for infrastructure that takes into account climate change.

  158. will says:

    Rasmussen has a pretty good record for reliability.

    October 31, 2012

    Wednesday, October 31, 2012

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 49% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 47%. Two percent (2%) prefer some other candidate, and three percent (3%) remain undecided. See daily tracking history.

    Sixteen percent (16%) of white Democrats now support Romney.

    NOTE: Rasmussen Reports is based in Asbury Park, New Jersey and we were hit hard by Hurricane Sandy. However, our survey interview calls are placed from a different location, so data gathering was able to continue. Today, however, we will release only a limited amount of data. We hope to resume a more complete schedule tomorrow. The Rasmussen Challenge is also on hold until next week due to the weather.

    New surveying Monday night finds Romney ahead of the president 50% to 47% in the key swing state of Colorado. That marks little change from a week ago, and the state remains a Toss-Up in the Rasmussen Reports Electoral College Projections.

    In Wisconsin, surveying from Monday night finds the race remains tied at 49%, just like last week. Wisconsin, too, is still a Toss-Up and is critical to Romney’s fortunes if he loses Ohio.

    Massachusetts remains about as blue as a state can be, with the president nearly 20 points ahead of Romney there.

    For most of the year, Rasmussen Reports has conducted 500 survey interviews per night and reported the results on a three-day rolling average basis. For the final week of the campaign, we will conduct 1,000 survey interviews per night.

    In the Ohio Senate race, incumbent Democrat Sherrod Brown has a 50% to 48% lead over Republican challenger Josh Mandel, shifting that race back to a Toss-Up in the Rasmussen Reports Senate Balance of Power rankings. In addition to Ohio, Rasmussen Reports currently rates six other Senate races as Toss-Ups: Connecticut, Florida, Montana, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.

    In the battle for the White House, the Rasmussen Reports Electoral College projections now show the president with 237 Electoral Votes and Romney 206. The magic number needed to win the White House is 270. Eight states with 95 Electoral College votes remain Toss-ups: Colorado, Florida,Iowa,Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin.

    (Presidential Job Approval Data Below)

    A president’s job approval rating is one of the best indicators for assessing his chances of reelection. Typically, the president’s job approval rating on Election Day will be close to the share of the vote he receives. Currently, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s job performance. Another 49% at least somewhat disapprove (see trends).

    Republicans now lead Democrats by three points on the Generic Congressional Ballot.

    Rasmussen Reports polling tends to show less volatility than other polls for a variety of reasons. In 2008, we showed virtually no change during the final 40 days of the campaign. Then-candidate Obama was between 50% and 52% in our polling every single day. He generally held a five- or six-point lead, occasionally bouncing up to an eight-point advantage and only once falling below a four point-lead. This stable assessment of the race is consistent with the reality of what we know about voter behavior. Obama won the election by a 53% to 46% margin.
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    Intensity of support or opposition can have an impact on campaigns. Currently, 30% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way Obama is performing as president. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove, giving him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -11 (see trends).

    During midterm elections, intensity of support can have a tremendous impact on turnout. That was demonstrated in 2010 when Republicans and unaffiliated voters turned out in large numbers to express opposition to the Obama administration’s policies. However, in presidential election years, there is a smaller impact on turnout. Still, all indications so far for Election 2012 suggest that Republicans are more engaged and more likely to turn out.

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  159. will says:

    Errata on posting the marketing information on Rasmussen report.
    Mea cupla.

  160. will says:

    mea culpa, that is – pardon my shadow of Mercury retrograde.

  161. Jackson says:

    “Rasmussen has a pretty good record for reliability.”

    Did you write that sentence, Will? Because it’s my understanding that Rasmussen has about as much credibility as a reliable, non-skewed poll as Fox News Channel has as an unbiased news organization. They’re homers for the GOP.

  162. ArtsCulturePeace says:

    Aloha All,
    *May all our kindreds living in devastated areas of the country know they are loved, supported materially & spiritually.

    *May those in the country who have become spellbound by cultish propagandists, liars, thieves, authoritarian crusaders who aim to “crush & replace”(gingrich) freethinkers; who aim to “divide & conquer”(rove) this constitutional democracy and “drown government in a bathtub” (norquist)…May those among us who have become spellbound by the hypnotic/Orwellian/Machivellian voices promoted in media…awaken from their primitively fearful/hypnotized unconsciousness.

    *May PBO continue to focus on we-the-people, love of country, compassionate assistance where needed and may he, not only by example, but by his powerful spoken word, lead this nation forward to “one nation indivisible with liberty & justice for all”. He already has one apparent ally in NJ Governor, a Virgo Sun who is helping align/activate PBO natal Virgo Mars, by sign…Norquist, natal Virgo/Jupiter conjunct PBO Mars, would also prove to be a surprising ally as Grover is not beloved by many conservatives, as he is a free thinking kind married to a Muslim woman of Palestinian lineage and who was tossed out of a recent CPAC with his pro-gay group there…he is a potential momentary ally, tho never to be fully trusted.

    *Interesting how Letterman, without live audience, is behaving in appropriate ways to the seriousness of the NYC situation, using his program to inquire about climate change with yesterday’s guest. Letterman is a gateway to mass consciousness…using that platform for more than just entertainment…this is a good beginning point…

    *WMR is looking at the pinnacle of his life, it seems. His current sycophantic/criminal assistants in this climb (rove, norquist, ralph reid, various TV evangelicals, ALEC, etc)have thusfar remained loyal to a longheld dream of materializing their own personal visions of self-serving reality through him as their very flawed vessel…wondering how long rove will subsume his ego-needs to the “cause” as the volatile aspects (mars/pluto/uranus) demand primitive sudden action from him.

    *E Ho’omaluhia me ka Honua. Peace.

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  164. will says:

    Yes, I did write it, Jackson. I’m not a statistical expert, but Rasmussen is far better than Gallup and others.

    If you have a good counterpoint with back-up, let’s have it.

  165. will says:

    Rasmussen’s samples likely voters as opposed to those who are most enthusiastic toward a particular candidate. They have had some sound success with accuracy. None of them are entirely reliable because of the built-in-margin of error, sampling problems and meta-analysis, which tends to dilute the purity of the responses.

    Lets look at Zogby for a differential.

  166. will says:

    Zogby differential – very, very close race.

    NewsmaxZogby Poll: Obama Widens Lead In Ohio

    Wednesday, 31 Oct 2012 10:18 AM

    By Jim Meyers

    The latest NewsmaxZogby Tracking Polls in three swing states show Mitt Romney falling six percentage points behind President Barack Obama in Ohio, but maintaining a lead in Virginia and narrowing Obama’s margin in Florida.

    The GOP challenger, who trailed Obama by 4 points in the 3-day survey completed in Ohio on Monday, now trails Obama 50 percent to 44 percent in the poll of 826 likely voters completed on Tuesday, one week before Election Day.

    “Ohio is looking better and better for Obama,” says pollster John Zogby.

    “Romney is running an ad trashing the auto bailout and not getting good grades from local media for the effort.

    “Obama’s lead is growing daily but a week is an eternity.”

    In Virginia, Romney led by 4 points in the poll completed Monday, but his edge there is down to a slim 1 point in the latest poll, 48 percent to 47 percent, with 5 percent still undecided.

    “The election is getting closer in time and staying close in numbers,” Zogby tells Newsmax. “Did the president get a slight boost from the hurricane?”

    Romney and Obama are in a virtual tie in Florida, with Romney at 47.7 percent and Obama at 47.4 percent. Obama led by a full point in the earlier poll.

    “Interestingly, two prominent pollsters have pulled out of Florida declaring it won by Romney,” says Zogby. “On the other hand, several of my colleagues are coming around to my numbers.

    “This is very close and we will stay until the end.”

    The NewsmaxZogby poll is a joint venture between Newsmax and New York State-based pollster John Zogby. Tracking polls are being conducted in Ohio, Florida, and Virginia, and nationally right up to Election Day.

    © 2012 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

  167. ArtsCulturePeace says:

    Aloha All,
    re: Election Maps, Red, Blue, Purple

    When being forced to view geographic maps of states colored either blue or red in network media coverage, please remember that claiming/owning zero sum/winner-take-all territory does not reflect owning/representing entire populations/voters. Republicans are masters of deception/appearance, if nothing else. Don’t be fooled into despair by the seemingly overwhelming areas of low-populations red/republican you may see in media maps as this election moves forward.

    In previous elections, including 2000 & 2008 election, more accurate renditions reflecting the will of voting citizenry based on county votes, were being mapped. Just a taste of past cartographic renditions that are quite elegant, meaningful & more deeply truthful mirrors of we-the-people:

    With warm aloha!

  168. Diane L says:

    Do you read Nate Silver’s blog, FiveThirtyEight, Will? He’s a true number cruncher and a good one.

  169. Rose says:

    Rasmussen, like Gallup, has a lot of name recognition, and many people assume the are therefore reliable. However, this is not shown by the facts.

    Here is an analysis of the reliability of the polls in the 2010 and prior election cycle. This is a *retrospective* look at how close each polling compaany was to the actual outcome of the elections.

    Nate Silver and Sam Wang at Princeton Election Consortium are both statistical experts, who use the state and national polls to populate their statistical probability models. The only difference that I can see is that Nate tries to offset what he calls “house effect” (i.e., slanted polling) using various weighting factors, while Sam includes all of them and assumes the outliers in each direction will offset each other.

    In both cases, Sam and Nate are more concerned with getting their models right than with who ultimately wins the election.

    Because they are forced to use polls with varying degrees of reliability, they have a vested interest in trying to determine how reliable the polling companies are. I would be more inclined to rely on a retrospective analysis like this one than the reputation of a particular company.

    Sam and Nate both repeatedly encourage their viewers to look at the overall trend of the aggregated polling, not just the results from one polling company, precisely because there are so many polling companies with their “thumb on the scale.”

  170. Virginia says:

    I have a hunch that one of the effects of Sandy will be helpful to Obama’s re-election: people don’t like to change horses in mid-stream, and probably will expect that a new administration, even if well-intentioned – might be less able to manage well the assistance needed.

  171. Jackson says:

    Thanks, Rose. I don’t have time right now to go fishing for evidence, but I do recall reading that Rasmussen’s methodologies functioned as a thumb on the scale that favored GOP candidates and interests. And my recollection from the 2010 campaign was that Rasmussen was about as reliable as a Sean Hannity piece on FNC.

  172. Rose says:

    In addition to the link I provided in my response to Jackson and Alex’s post above, Nate’s most recent article discusses the difference between the current state and national polls.

    He has comparison tables of the most recent state and national polls in the article. He also discusses ‘accuracy’ vs ‘bias’ and has some links to other articles he’s done that explore those subjects in more detail.

  173. Rose says:

    Yes, that is the general thinking among the “nerds” who follow Sam and Nate.

  174. Diane L says:

    I’ve been reading 538 blog for the last several election cycles and have enormous respect for Nate Silver’s fairness & accuracy. Not being a numbers person myself, I am a little in awe of those who are.

  175. will says:

    Diane L.,

    I don’t know of his blog, Diane. Thank you for the link – I’ll check it out.

    Thanks Rose, and Virgo, for your input. For all intents, it looks like this one’s gonna be a squeaky-close election.

  176. Diane L says:

    Heh, just checked & found out Nate Silver is a Cappy w/Mercury in Sagittarius trine Saturn in Leo.

    Jan 13, 1978 East Lansing, MI

  177. Rose says:

    I’m an accountant, and I’ve taken one statistics class for my degree. So I know enough to follow them, and know that they are amazingly good at making sense out of something that I find mind-numbing.

    Sam Wang has high praise for Nate’s integrity and motives, even though he uses a different model. There are enough statistics nerds that follow both of them, if either of their models were biased, someone would’ve pointed out their error–and they would’ve fixed it!

  178. angellight says:

    !!! McCain Campaigns OPPOSITION RESEARCH on Rmoney Released… [View all]

  179. kdez says:

    Nate Silver is the gold standard of poll analysis — a rigorous, first-rate, numbers nerd.

  180. Diane L says:

    There are enough statistics nerds that follow both of them, if either of their models were biased, someone would’ve pointed out their error–and they would’ve fixed it!

    If you’ve read the comments on 538, you know how true this is. :)

  181. virgo says:

    “Reading the body language: So who is ahead in this presidential contest? If you look at the national polls (Pew, NPR, New York Times/CBS), it’s a dead heat. If you look at the key battleground-state polls — like today’s New York Times/CBS/Quinnipiac surveys of Ohio, Florida, and Virginia — then you see that Obama is slightly ahead in the pursuit of 270 electoral votes. But if you look at the campaigns’ body language, it’s hard not to conclude that Romney’s folks believe they are behind, at least when it comes to Ohio. And if they believe Ohio is the “be all, end all,” then they are behind.”

  182. Azizi says:

    Imo, this comment from deserves increased circulation:

    “Ron Indiana

    What I Learned About Mitt Romney:

    The 2012 campaign cycle is quickly coming to an end and to be honest, I’m happy about that. The high points were exhilarating and the low points were exhausting. As I look back over the past two years, I ask myself, “What have I learned about Mitt Romney?”

    1. Willard doesn’t seem to care about women. He did not support the Lilly Ledbetter Act for equal pay for women. Additionally he supports Senate candidate Richard Mourdock who opposes a woman’s right to get an abortion even in cases of rape.

    2.He dislikes 47% of American voters as he believes they are dependent on government subsidies. Never mind that Medicare and Social Security are benefits that workers paid into their entire working life. Romney believes seniors, veterans, and soldiers are lazy.

    3.Mitt is insensitive to plight of Americans who become the victims of natural disasters like Katrina and now Sandy. It was not a gaffe or a misspoken thought; he clearly stated that FEMA should be eliminated. Now he won’t comment on what he said in a 2011 debate.

    4.As a Bain CEO, Romney was more into profits than people. He outsourced thousands of jobs to China, leaving American workers without healthcare benefits, their pension, or their job

    5.Willard was caught flip-flopping on hundreds of issues, but the one thing he remained constant on was keeping secret his personal taxes. He was not forthright on his holdings in the Cayman Islands, Bermuda, and Switzerland. Without question, he has something to hide”….

  183. angellight says:

    Alex: You probably did this as word is getting out! This was posted on CNN 58 minutes ago!
    59 minutes ago
    Dem super PAC ad ties Romney to Medicare fraud

    Posted by
    CNN Political Unit

    (CNN) – A new ad from the Democratic group Priorities USA escalates the battle over Medicare, connecting GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney to Medicare fraud.

    “Romney was director of a company that stole millions from Medicare,” the narrator in the ad says. “Now, Romney’s plan would end Medicare as we know it.”

    It cites news reports on Damon Corporation, which indicate the firm was owned by Romney’s financial firm Bain Capital and on whose board he served from 1990 to 1993, when Bain sold the company.

    The candidate “personally made $473,000″ off of the sale, The Boston Globe reported, and Bain made over $7 million. “Damon Corp. pleaded guilty in 1996 to a federal conspiracy charge of defrauding the government of $25 million between 1988 and 1993,” the Globe reported.

    The newspaper reported that Romney said he helped discover the fraud and hired a law firm to investigate, leading to “corrective action” which was taken prior to the company’s sale. But the Globe said prosecutors alleged and the company acknowledged statements which “tell a different story, and reveal that the fraudulent activity occurred right up until the time Bain and other owners sold the company to Corning.” The scheme involved fraudulently billing for a “bundle” of services when only one service, such as blood testing, had been performed.

  184. TJ says:

    CNN reports Obama is returning to DC after his public statement in NJ, and he’ll leave DC in the morning to resume campaigning. That places him in DC for his lunar return.

  185. Sharon says:

    They got to it, Angellight….it’s down for maintenance.

    As far as Nate Silver, I didn’t realize he was the guy in Moneyball.

    Lastly, regarding random telephone surveys, don’t forget that cell phones are not included.

  186. JA says:

    I don’t understand the significance of him being in Washington?

  187. Rose says:

    Nancy was asking earlier, because his lunar return chart in DC is really good. Implies a good outcome to the election, since it remains in effect for a month.

  188. Rose says:

    “In a twist that many climate activists will no doubt enjoy, the scheduled release Wednesday of an 18-month investigation into the impacts of climate change on national security by experts at the National Research Council — sponsored by the Central Intelligence Agency — has been delayed because of Hurricane Sandy.”

  189. will says:

    Hilarious Rose, You can’t make this stuff up.

  190. Rose says:

    This was posted by a commenter on Nate’ current article: “Some people are stating that the poll analysis on FiveThirtyEight (which shows Obama winning the electoral vote) is completely wrong. Every analysis of polls and prediction markets that I have seen shows Obama leading in the electoral vote.

    – Karl Rove electoral vote; (Likely Obama 184 + Leaning Obama 37 + Obama leading tossup states 60) total for Obama = 281
    – Real Clear Politics (poll average ) no tossup electoral vote; 281 Obama 257 Romney
    – David Rothschild’s website (also on Yahoo: The Signal); 290 Obama 248 Romney

    – Intrade chance of victory; Obama 66% Romney 34%.”

    Nate is currently projecting EV of 299 for PBO, with probability of winning the EV of 77.4%.

    Princeton Election Consortium had projected EV of 318 for PBO with 99% probability, as of 10:05 this morning. Sam’s current notes say “The “Meta-margin” shows that state polls would have to swing toward Mitt Romney by 2.6% to tie the race. This Meta-Margin differs by about 3.0% from national polls. I regard this as the big current mystery. While we bring PEC back online, I am doing analysis to understand the difference. Swing-state polls were dead-on in 2004 and 2008, suggesting either national-poll methods or non-swing state opinion as the culprits.”

  191. Rose says:

    The timing is superb!

  192. alex says:

    Thanks for the CNN story – here is the video link

  193. pisca says:

    This article has links to stories that were posted here; they provide alot of background history of Karl Rove and Bush having their dirty fingers in voter fraud in 2004 (and other times). I’m still dreaming of a late November bust! It is past time for certain people to publicize what they know.

  194. Lorrie U says:

    Mystical Chick – Everything you just said were words out of my mouth! Amazing how we are all feeling the same exact thing.

  195. Lorrie U says:

    Glad to hear that others are seeing the manic side of Romney too. And, can you imagine what Dana Bash would have had to say if Obama had not visited the devastation!

  196. kiwi says:

    have been away from my computer for a few days. Sending my very best wishes to everyone affected on the east coast for a calm and speedy recovery.

  197. Lorrie U says:

    The only thoughts that come to mind every time I read about this disgusting man are unmentionable!

  198. alex says:

    fundraising email – for voter turnout groundwork

    We have six days left to do everything we can to keep Mitt Romney out of the White House.

    This is the last possible moment when a donation can support the largest independent voter turnout operation in the country and help reelect President Obama.

  199. fierywoman says:

    All you have to do to know their (Nate and Sam’s) accuracy is to see how closely they predicted past elections — they were both within a few EV’s for the 2008 election.

  200. Lorrie U says:

    Newsmax is extremely right-wing!!

  201. Lorrie U says:

    I just tried it one minute ago and the link came up fine.

  202. teresahill says:

    Those of us at DailyKos have been following Nate for years, long before he was a NYTimes columnist. Long before he even posted his work under his own name.
    He was a guy who hung out at DK, a baseball statistician who got frustrated with the accuracy of individual polls and kept playing with the numbers, trying to figure out a more accurate way to poll.
    Pretty soon he was weighting polls by how accurate they’d proven to be in the past, and using his weighted average to come up with his own poll. And he’s really good at it.
    Now the guy’s in the NYTimes. :)

  203. RobinMoonerise says:

    Shameless Romney spends $5K on goods to “donate” back to him at fake hurricane event:

  204. starlight says:

    I am feeling very good about that lunar return in DC tonight, along with the solar return in DC in August. They are both winners. And we have seen Obama’s birth certificate, so we have an accurate time.

  205. starlight says:

    He really can’t tolerate not being the center of attention. He does not have a gracious bone in his body. He should have supported the president in a time of crisis and asked his people to donate money to the RC. Then he might have looked presidential instead of his usual opportunistic self, trying to mimic the president’s disaster relief in a staged photo op.

  206. KIM says:

    and just you saying that is going to help me sleep well tonight…Thank you Starlight
    A big hug for you :)

  207. Sharon says:

    I rec’d this, Alex, and have been giving all along in fairly small sums to the various groups like the Obama campaign, the DCCC, and DGA, etc., but your posting this here made me donate un poco mas!

  208. JA says:

    I was told that it would be beneficial to keep your focus on the outcome you wish to see.

  209. Noelle says:

    I’m surprised at Dana Bash. i always liked her.

  210. JA says:

    The citizens of Ohio know who saved the bread they put their butter on. At the end of the day, no amount of lying and bombarding from the Romney/Rove camp, or omissions by Faux News will change that.

    The president had to do presidential things for our brothers and sisters who were in the wake of Sandy. People totally get that. People also are totally behind having a well-funded FEMA. No Romney ad will change that view, and Romney’s staff flopping for him won’t change the perception that he would privatize it, were he to win.

    If the election had to hang on any one state, Ohio is probably among the best ones, if you’re a democrat.

    Oct. 31, 2012 at 7:46 p.m.
    Rima Regas

  211. starlight says:

    That little clip of Romney talking about privatizing FEMA reminded me of the 47% video. They both had the feel of the real Romney, like this is who he really is. It seemed much more genuine than when he explains to us how much he really cares.

    I also got the sense from watching Christie today, that he is really, really upset and stressed by the horrific situation of his state, and he is enormously grateful to Obama for the steady, strong support. Nothing political about it.

  212. Meowser says:

    I feel that my name should be LoyalLurkerII because I am always lurking around this site with great admiration and love for all who post here!
    Thank you Starlight! Holy cow, if not for your post that Democrats would be on edge til November 3rd, among many of the other things you and all who post here, I’d have gone insane a long time ago re this election. I hate to introduce myself with such bad news but here goes:

    I just wanted to get this article out there in case there is anything that can be done (by people who read his site) to prevent the contender (whose name cannot be mentioned) from ever getting close to the White House. I am truly concerned.

    Blessings to all finding themselves bereft and at a loss because of the storm. This too shall pass!

    With much love,

  213. teresahill says:

    I think Christie’s being genuine, too. That he’s shocked and horrified by what happened to his state, his people. That he’s feeling for the first time, the awesome responsibility that comes with his job. That it’s about people, taking care of and helping people. Being responsible for people’s lives. Feel like he’s seeing that truth for the first time. To govern, at its core, is to be responsible for people’s lives.

  214. Lune Prière says:

    I didn’t realize until recently that the “Poblano” I read at Kos all through the ’08 election was Nate!

  215. Lune Prière says:

    I had a sense (maybe just Imagination) from some of the photos that PBO arrived and gave Christie a badly needed feeling of support.

  216. shoalsister says:

    Maybe we’re being naive, but I agree with all of you. I was particularly struck by Chuck Todd’s comment tonight that Christie never got more that two feet away from the President. I picked up that he was drawing strength just being in Obama’s sphere. It was a human thing. Politics aside. And yes, Lune, the pictures all tell me the same story.

  217. RobinMoonrise says:

    Wedom on Romney’s Zoo
    mbie wasteland:

  218. angellight says:

    Starlight: I too agree that Christie is really devastated and yes, horrified!

    teresahill: I picked that up to about Christie, that he is seeing for the first time and truly feeling compassion for the first time; it is an awesome thing the devastation and the ruin to human lives.

    JA: I agree with you about Ohioans and yet I cannot understand why Obama is only up 5 points; he should be up much more.

  219. angellight says:

    UAW Charges Romney from Profiteering from Auto Bailout!

    For Mitt Romney, it’s one scary Halloween. The Presidential candidate has just learned that tomorrow afternoon (November 1) he will be charged by the United Automobile Workers (UAW) and other public interest groups with violating the federal ethics in government law by improperly concealing his multi-million dollar windfall from the auto industry bailout.

  220. mitzi says:

    That link was creepy scarry!!! Thanks will pass it on!

  221. mitzi says:

    Thanks Angellight! Can this be true? Another October Surprise?
    I’m spellbound, and speechless! WOW!

  222. alex says:

    the reason Romney lies twice a day and four the next is that he is disabling people’s ability to think; he is overwhelming them;
    because a lot of people ( most ) don’t like to think – thinking is essentially conflict resolution;

    thinking is a frontal brain function; thinking is conflict resolution in that you have to take the new information and compare it to the old then re-weigh them both to come up with a resolution to the differences;

    that is the thinking effort in conflict resolution/frontal brain function where executive decision are made in the brain ( I am BTW sleepy or this would be written better )

    if can’t or won’t or doesn’t want to resolve the differences between the old and the new information then the mind tosses it out ( disregards it ignores it )

    when Romney overwhelms the public mind they can’t resolve/think/decide so it makes them anxious/fearful and fearful/anxious people follow authority figures when that happens through TRANSFERENCE;

    it is a head game on the public

    since the Obama campaign framed itself as a choice ( Romney began his general election campaign framing this election as a referendum ( like or dislike, satisfied or disappointed with Obama = referendum ) and Obama team framed the election as a choice – – it created a dilemma for people who are authority followers – people who don’t like to think;

    that’s why Obama didn’t create conflict in the first debate ( persuadable undecided voters taking a real good look for the first time) because Obama was targeting then and not people who are already on his side;

    in the debate setting can’t make everybody happy all on one evening; he had his target – the undecided voter; and by not engaging Romney’s lies or aggression Romney made a big first impression on the UNDECIDED VOTERS they saw an emboldened Romney get topped out aggressive and drop the biggest dump of BS@*#^it ever – Mitt the moderate;

    trouble was people did remember Mitt the extreme severe conservative from the primaries… so Mitt stepped in his own mess;

    when the lies he told which were brought up the next few days in the asleep corrupt do nothing campaign media, that began the erosion of gift / benefit of doubt given to the challenger in the first debate ( who is expected and forgiven for making mistake of trying too hard to win against the incumbent perceived as the stronger party….. fairness is the big thing of the first debate)

    the first debate makes DAVID out of the challenger to the incumbent who is cast as GOLIATH; the public has tendency to identify/cheer for DAVID the litte guy fighting the big guy ) but the twist on what is historically true ( sitting presidents have lost first debate more than won first debate against their challengers) is that the Obama team understood that some of the asleep press ( NOISE long ago tuned out by the public ) would report on Romney’s lies in the debate…… and debate watching people would be paying attention;

    so Obama didn’t create a conflict for undecided persuadable voters in the first debate… he let Romney become bolder and bolder in his lies and comfortable enough to show his ARROGANCE and sense of ENTITLEMENT; that was the first debate impression of Romney;

    for the pissed off rest of us either with or against Obama we had to wait for him; Obama set the stage for VP debate, presidential second and third debate; the upset that caused was the price he paid to turn the to V.P. debate showdown into the MAIN EVENT of the debates; and Second presidential debate manifested the public’s desire to see Obama throw a punch it became what was expected and desire… and he satisfied in the second debate – and in third he knocked him out;

    in any case Romney continues to overwhelm the public with lies it makes them retreat into cognitive dissonance …. not wanting to resolve new information with old information… makes them GIVE UP and not try to think but instead follow authority figure from TRANSFERENCE…… they empower Romney when they give up their own power (to think for themselves);

    it is a psyops game it is also the basis of Leo Strauss political philosophy the creator of NEOCON shock doctrine politics/policy who instructed the Neocon – extreme- conservatives to lie to the public because the public should not be allowed the power to decide who should lead them rather they should be hoodwinked since the public does not deserve a choice… the entitled NEOCON should TAKE POWER anyway from the public anyway they can – and deception is their number one tactic to do that;

    lying from Romney is a two-fer;

    it comes so easily to him doesn’t it;

    it confuses the anxious public who transfers their power/self-disempowers (like self-deportation ) to the authority figure;

    fortunately there is another phase of the campaign – – when Romney/Ryan lies are so absurd and Romney’s character ( history and record ) as a governor and corrupt businessman have caught up to him;

    and he blew it with the fake storm relief concert… the public has caught on and sees that he is desperate; and in Ohio the ‘jeep’ ad has hardened the voters against him;

    that of course is why he is trying to make WI a firewall by instructing Romney trained poll watchers to fake being government poll workers to misinform voters as they are waiting to vote;

    fortunately our side has trained poll watchers and WISCONSIN etc etc will not be overrun with Romney’s fakers/liars;

  223. angellight says:

    mitzi: Yes, I do believe it’s true.

  224. angellight says:

    President Obama’s Situation As I See It

    Much of the disdain for and disappointment in President Obama has been his seeming ‘left turn’ in enacting much of what he said he was going to do as President. Obama has been one of very few Presidents who were not in line with the agendas of the elites from the beginning, and the clear, large network of propaganda in the mainstream, alternative and spiritual media seems only to be a testament to this fact.

    In my view, the unfortunate part is that Lightworkers have believed the propaganda imbued within the mainstream, alternative and spiritual media, and a part of this has to do with the aforementioned increased scrutiny against the President as the people have begun to awaken to the misdeeds [to put them lightly] of Bush and of the cabals in general. The people are not taking corruption anymore and are scrutinizing the President, whoever he may be, now more than ever.

    The problem is that many of us have naturally assumed that the President has the most power as we would expect him to, based on how the American governing body is supposed to be but alas, the President holds much less power than we realize. Obama didn’t quite realize the enormous, worldwide power network he was taking-on with his many decrees and presidential ambitions, and it is my view as well as that of many others that Obama immediately met a wall of hate from those he had vowed to bring down in various different forms.

    What Obama has been able to get done so far, we often don’t hear about and if we do, we usually hear about it in a critical or at the very least, speculative light. The hatred and contempt held for Bush has carried-over for a lot of people, especially many people who voted for Obama and expected the promised change in his first term, not knowing that the hidden establishment running things in Washington were and have been the real deciders of actions that are taken.

    The elite’s plan was solidified from the beginning. They were likely very surprised that neither of the people who their separate factions were trying to get elected actually won in 2008, and they probably worked very quickly to devise a plan against the President that would entail threats against his Life among other awful things, and a continual blocking of every agenda he wished to enact under the guise of the Republican party blocking such things only for the interest of their parties.

    Obama’s many attempted actions have been blocked for much deeper reasons than that but the separation-boasting system of Democrat and Republican, Liberal and Conservative has been used by the cabals as a shell of a reason to enact or block any type of agenda and to use separation-based mindsets to divide and distract the people on miniscule issues, so that an agenda can either be pushed through or blocked without the public realizing the broader implications of either agenda, be it for or against the interests of the people.

    Propaganda through a heavily-controlled mainstream media and a slightly-controlled alternative media would reinforce views against the President and all of that fuming hatred of Bush would, after a while of Obama being in office, fashion into disappointment and hatred of him, and the awareness of the people and our expression of such an awareness would be aimed toward somebody who really has been trying to help us all along, rather than who it is to be duly aimed at; the real perpetrators of this illusory and unfair system we have in place at present.

    The elites would have their Republicans block maneuvers the President makes to get various things done, while the mainstream and alternative media continually reinforce a rhetoric that the President is fulfilling nothing that he said he would, which would of course light the alternative media afire with conspiracy theories and assumptions that the President has been in-line with the agendas of the elites all along and that his campaign of hope and change was a farce. This is pretty much an assumption within many people at present, and some think Obama supporters downright crazy and ‘blind’ because we don’t resonate with what to us seems to be clear, orchestrated propaganda against the President.

    The elites would gain an advantage, having their more far-right mainstream media pundits harshly criticize and attack the President nearly as soon as he took office. They would play-upon the awakening that is occurring within many on our world at this point, by issuing routine conspiracy theories themselves against the President, again, on their own far-right mainstream ‘news’ networks.

    Do you ever wonder why far-right pundits almost seem to be in agreement with ‘alternative’ news-based conspiracy theories against the President? When Alex Jones and Fox News are agreeing with each other, something isn’t right.

    By now, the majority of the people should have been against the President and make no mistake, a lot of people are. Many conscious Lightworkers who are very insightful and filled with important knowledge for humanity to assimilate, are aligned with the belief that Obama is not a Lightworker and we’ve all seen a plethora of vicious and sometimes petty arguments about the integrity and intention of the President.

    I think that even beyond all of this, the President is under much more pressure and stress than we all realize. I have heard that some pretty awful threats were made to the President and there is likely much more to the story of his Presidency than we will yet know; even those of us who search and search for the truth endlessly. We are seeing now, the result of four years of orchestrated propaganda against the President and we are now and have been witnessing the absorbing and believing of this propaganda by many well-meaning, intelligent souls.

    In my view, this is unfortunate as I believe that despite the clear purposeful blocking of the President’s plans [in various different forms] to help usher humanity into an age of peace and prosperity and despite what seemed for a long time to be his own submission and perceived defeat, it seems that there could be another round for President Obama.

    It can be disheartening to see some well-meaning individuals including my own mother, who are very staunchly against the President and are more in favor of Mitt Romney for President.

    Again, politics aside, I feel that Mitt Romney is and will be an instrument of the cabals and the interests and agendas of the cabals. I have my reasons for feeling this way and even many who are against Obama would likely agree about Mitt Romney, and he has especially made it clear to his billionaire-donors that he does not believe strongly in government aide; much less a redistribution of wealth. (MORE AT LINK) Sorry about length!

  225. Nina says:

    Where’s the ‘like’ button in this commenting system?

  226. Nina says:

    With his rolodex he could have put together a glittery fundraiser for the Red Cross and touted how wonderful it was that Americans came together in the face of disaster through a nongovernmental organization. If he’d bundled a huge check at the same time, it would have made the news.

    Instead the news is all about how amateur and bumbling his team has been, and how practiced and efficient FEMA has been.

    I can’t help but feel that this will make a big difference in Florida. They know that more hurricanes are coming their way; maybe not next summer, but in the next 4 years. Would they rather have a Republican FEMA or a Democratic FEMA coming to help them?

    If you have any Republican or on-the-fence relatives in Florida or the southern coasts, ask them that question.

  227. Nina says:

    I’m reminded of The Grinch – his heart grew three sizes that day.

    But there’s an element of cold political calculation there, too. I think Christie genuinely wants to be the best governor he can possibly be, and he sees 2016 as a better year to run than 2020. He can’t run in 2016 if Romney is the incumbent. Remember his keynote speech, where Romney was only mentioned as an afterthought? By propping up the president, Christie has earned a reputation for bipartisanship. By responding well to the disaster, he’ll earn a reputation for comptance.

    He’s term limited after his next term, which he’ll run for in 2013. He can’t be governor again after 2017 (I think). So the presidency is the next logical step. In order to gain it, he doesn’t want to run against a sitting Republican president.

    That’s my take on it anyhow.

  228. Lune Prière says:

    Thanks for that M.! I’m really hoping PBO wins decisively next Tuesday, and the retro Mercury doesn’t cause days and weeks of waiting. Maybe it will end up having more to do with the storm. By thr way, you can text 90999 and type in REDCROSS on your cell phone to donate $10. The charge shows up on the cell phone bill.

    Does anyone else feel a giant void where the Romney campaign used to be?

  229. Lune Prière says:

    Yes well put. A human thing.

  230. Lune Prière says:

    Over 5 million views on YouTube!

  231. alex says:

    According to the article on Greg Palast’s website Mitt Romney learned yesterday the he will be “charged with violating the federal Ethics in Government law by improperly concealing his multi-million dollar windfall from the auto industry bail-out.”

    This quote in particular is the kicker: ??”While Romney was opposing the rescue of one of the nation??s most important manufacturing sectors, he was building his fortunes with his Delphi investor group, making his fortunes off the misfortunes of others,” King added.
    That’s gonna piss off a lot of hard working straight shooting Ohioans.

    If this is properly covered, Romney is sunk in Ohio. Game, set, match.

    Let’s just hope the media has been sufficiently slapped out of their horse race induced apathy by Romney’s boldfaced Jeep lies enough and in time to do their jobs.

    UAW Files Charges Against Romney
    on his Auto Bail-out Profiteering

    Wednesday, October 31, 2012

    Broke ethics law hiding millions, say good government groups

  232. starlight says:

    Another new thread:

    I don’t know that I can keep up this pace after the election, but for now I am sort of keeping up with you. :-)

  233. starlight says:

    This week the US chart had Saturn cross its progressed Saturn trine Venus. Romney is now under tr. Saturn square his progressed Saturn and conjunct his progressed Chiron. Since it began:

    Hurricane Sandy stole the show; Obama got to be presidential with new best buddy Chris Christie; Romney got caught making photo ops out of the storm suffering; and now the UAW is filing charges against him.

  234. starlight says:

    the reason Romney lies twice a day and four the next is that he is disabling people’s ability to think; he is overwhelming them;

    This is exactly what abusive, bullying spouses do to the abusee.

  235. JA says:

    YEH! Finally.

  236. Diane L says:

    Thank you very much, Starlight!! :D

  237. Nita says:

    The UAW is holding a press conference on the planned ethics complaint at 2 p.m. on Thursday in Toledo, Ohio.


  238. Baraka says:

    Ras is consistently off from the aggregated polls with a strong R bias. You might want to check NYTimes 538 (Nate Silver) to see just how far off they are; it’s usually 5-8% skewed R.

  239. Prabhata says:

    Lorrie U, the word “defer” and “launder” are very different. All taxpayers with 401K’s defer their taxes. That’s correct regular people use loopholes, and I’m all for 401Ks. Though I don’t approve of misuse of charity to defer taxes, if it’s legal, then we need the Obama administration to address that loophole. It’s regrettable that many of those loopholes were not closed when the Democrats had the opportunity.

  240. Lorrie U says:

    That makes a lot of sense to me, Nina.

  241. Lorrie U says:

    That’s been posted and shared on FB & Twitter, without a lot of msm coverage, being knocked out by the storm.

  242. Lorrie U says:

    Huh? Why are you addressing me? What are you referencing?

  243. barbk says:

    Bless you alex for recounting the story.

  244. barbk says:

    Uncanny. We can’t discount the subtle but remarkably accurate picture these minor “planets” give us. So sorry I didn’t see your responses sooner alex!

    These three bodies have been traveling together for a long long time and I wondered how they would fit into the astrological picture when they finally “surfaced”. I guess it took a Full Moon in Taurus opposing them to do it. Grateful for your sleuthing, again.

  245. Prabhata says:

    This one:
    Lorrie U
    October 29, 2012 at 10:56 pm
    Breaking – Bloomberg News. Romney Laundered taxes through Mormon Church. Paid “NO” taxes for 15 years.

    Deferred taxes, like 401Ks, are paid later, they are not “laundered”.

  246. ArtsCulturePeace says:

    Hoping all is returning to normal for you. Much appreciate your insights for this election cycle. Mahalo!
    re: abusive spouse technique from WMR

    Yes. True.
    As well, the entire Rep/TPwing/F-O-X methodology is that of a cult. Authoritarian; shared cultural language=dog-whistling; dress alike; no transparency at all; carrot & stick w/members; attacking non-members w/impunity; magical thinking/lying/NLP w/total impunity, etc.

    Impression that what the country needs more than anything else are truth-telling folks/citizens & representatives armored with ample capacities for discernment, communications skill (so many simply stumble/bumble/blather), and courage based in truth. Enwrapped in Neptune/Pisces, the entire world needs folks with courage to stamp out liars & their lies with boots of truth, imv.

    Warm aloha!