What a Week!

What a week it has been! The intensity, the focus, and the clarity of the argument presented by speaker after speaker in Charlotte was extraordinary. After three years of the right-wing message machine drowning the nation in dark hyperbole and pernicious lies, hearing so much testimony about the effectiveness and significance of President Obama’s multitude of accomplishments was striking and often startling. And it was also very energizing, something much-needed after battling to stay afloat amidst a steady-stream of conservative spew and struggling through the exhaustive climb out of the pit left by the previous occupant of the Oval Office.

The contrast with the Republican convention in Tampa was also illuminating. Mostly, the GOP lives in alternative universe to the reality-based community of the rest of humankind. Thus, there was kind of a weird, shadowy quality to what went on. Outrage was expressed over an array of things that do not exist except in the usefully paranoid fantasy perpetrated upon the base. Earnest support was expressed over things that would actually be destroyed if GOP policies were enacted. If one scratched the surface, there was a profound incoherence simmering under the whole production.

In Charlotte, on the other hand, we heard a vast array of testimony from real people about specific policies that affected them personally. There was a bracing ring of truth echoing through the hall for three days from citizens whose lives had been transformed for the better by President Obama. From Obamacare to the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act to the end of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell to unequivocal support of veterans and their families to the rescue of the auto industry, the president has benefited millions of lives with his efforts. Although he barely appeared before his speech on Thursday, President Obama was the star of the show from start to finish.

As for the nomination acceptance speech itself, there was also a significant contrast with the one from four years ago in Denver. Just as there is a difference in how you feel when you first fall in love versus, years later, when you appreciate your partner’s strength, resilience, and dependability in a difficult world, the starry-eyed swoon of the 2008 crowd has given way, in 2012, to a deep appreciation of Obama’s strength, vision, and judgment after a stressful term in the White House testing his mettle. The intoxicating bouquet of hope and change he offered has morphed into a spine of steel; the soaring poetry has become a steady hand on the rudder. Indeed, the speech provided a glimpse of the sinew and grit required in today’s stormy political and economic climate.

The astrological signature for this transformation may be understood as a shift from Venus to Mars. In 2008, as is often the case with victorious first-term candidates, there were some very strong Venus progressions: progressed Venus conjunct the natal North Node (27Aquarius18), progressed Venus conjunct progressed Uranus (28Aquarius08), and progressed Venus quincunx progressed Jupiter (27Capricorn20). In addition, converse Venus was exactly square to Obama’s natal Sun (12Leo33) for his first big victory in Iowa in early January. How could the country not fall in love with a candidate embodying such overwhelming appeal?

The campaign of 2012 brings a different constellation. There is certainly still some of the old attraction, but the Venus and the Jupiter aspects, although present, are less potent. Progressed Sun square natal Venus (1Cancer47) has been waning since July; tertiary progressed Jupiter square natal Venus peaks on November 1; and transiting Neptune trine Venus, while strong in July and August, won’t return until January 2013, cresting just after the Inauguration. The most potent aspect, progressed Venus square to the Moon (3Gemini21), begins its year-long impact in mid-December 2012 and will be intensified by transiting Neptune in February 2013. Thus, the president seems to be in good spirits and quite popular in January and February as the new term begins, certainly intimating a likely victory rather than the shadow of loss.

But the big difference in this election cycle and moving into the next term is the strength of Mars in Obama’s chart, adding an aura of strength and a bolder and much more aggressive element to what we saw last time around. Obama’s solar arc Mars is now square to his Sun (12Leo33) through April 2013, while his converse Sun will be square to Mars (22Virgo35) as of late November 2012 through November 2013. In addition, solar arc Mercury is conjunct natal Mars through June 2013. The early days of compromise and wanting to make nice (Venus) have now morphed into a pattern of much more assertive action (Mars) to do what needs to be done despite the right-wing hissy fits. Note, for example, the upsurge in executive orders of late that simply bypass a chronically obstructionist Congress, as well as the increasingly pointed campaign rhetoric. What we now have is a warrior who fights on our behalf, whose younger, more poetic and idealistic self is becoming a fond but distant memory.

215 comments

  1. Mary says:

    Wonderful as always Nancy, thank you.
    I’m thinking what we now have in President Obama is a mature warrior; infused with experience and whose peotry and idealism are now fully intergrated and expressed, making him even more powerful.

  2. connimac says:

    So beautifully expressed, Starlight, especially your fourth paragraph! We have ourselves a leader whose love/wisdom aspect has fully met up with his will/power aspect and he is the perfect man to have at the helm for the rough seas which may be coming his way. Thank you for your valuable insights.

  3. Lorrie U says:

    After reading downer daykeepersjournal post on last thread, I needed this. Thank you.

  4. Sharon says:

    Nancy, what a great description of events and transformations. Just a great piece of writing and music to the ears!

  5. Sharon says:

    What you said, Nancy, feels so right, so fitting, so accurate. I can see it happening.

  6. Sharon says:

    On another note, Alex or Nancy or someone with time, can you further elaborate on the aspects and chances for the Tea Party 10 and the House of Rep. in general.

    I donated $20 to the DCCC yesterday as there was triplicate matching and the House needs 25 Dem. seats to regain it (more than I can afford to budget but it’s an important cause). Even if we don’t get control, the aim would be to have a closer distribution of Democrats and Republicans as we can also get some Republicans to work with us—the brave ones.

  7. emma says:

    I decided to donate $100. I cannot afford it but I reminded mysrelf that I cannot aford to lose Medicare in 2016 either.

  8. alex says:

    2012: It’s a choice between a country where the middle class pays more so that millionaires can pay less—or a country where everybody pays their fair share.” San Antonio mayor Julian

    2012: With Romney the Christian Right have their best chance to railroad the middle class vote to unknowingly support their Fundamentalist agenda.
    http://mootmagazine.com/2012/08/16/mitt-romney-prophet-or-puppet

    Romney (puppet or prophet ) Neptune

    Neptune: Pretense & Pretext

    Neptune in Pisces – Pretense, Key Words (toxic level of un-reality, pre-text, pretense)and/or Pretext (disguise; alleged reason)

    Romney – Spiritual Coalition & Political Elitism ( NeoCon government, Fundamentalism, Dominionism entrenched in the GOP )

    http://tinyurl.com/8ccjrnk

    Nick Owens: Neptune corresponds to gradual and seamless changes in reality that work so subtly and slowly and with such hypnotic force that we are frequently not even aware of their effects until they have long passed. We underestimate the magnitude of these changes at our peril, just as a tsunami may pass almost unnoticed in the open ocean, but somewhere where it clashes with unyielding structures, it unleashes its chaotic fury.

    Arising from such boundlessness and lack of clarity is the psycho-perceptual experience of intoxication, the rendering into submission, hypnosis, sleep, trance, like enchantment in a spell, or being overcome by fumes, or inundated by powerful waves or currents. The cause, the source, may not be apparent, may be invisible, mysterious, inscrutable. But the effects, however ephemeral, penetrate to the core of one’s perceptual and emotional experience. The experience of the Neptunian realm of reality is often confusing because it challenges us to define reality at scales where definition and singular truth themselves start to lose meaning. Socially and politically, Neptune tends to correspond to ideologies that have a compelling sense of idealism or a narrative of deliverance from the imperfections of the world into a utopia of perfect order. It also says something about our sense of what it is that contextualizes or surrounds our reality frameworks, of what it is that is ‘out there’ that contains our every notion and hence implicitly conditions our beliefs about the world; this could be a philosophical position, a religious belief, a political ideology, a metaphysical argument, a cosmology or a delusion. But rather like the proverbial fish blind to the water in which it swims, we are often entirely unaware of the presence of these frameworks, and may even be unable to stay sane without them.

  9. Connie says:

    yes Alex Miller is a bummer

  10. RebeccaD says:

    I could swear that Obama was in Washington D.C. on his birthday. Nancy was very happy about it and he has Obama in Chicago on that date. It seems that would make a difference in his assessment.

  11. alex says:

    Hi Sharon – the Ten are a downpayment on the Twenty-Five (plus)that the DCCC want!

    The twenty-five analysis requires a ‘real’ political junkie/analyst and I am not. I’m focusing on the Ten(plus) because the CREDO information is comprehensive and with wiki DOB it is enough information for the down ticket races for me.

    Of those I pulled some detail – for treading information, but not necessarily ‘astro-triggers';

    When I look at a field of politicians who are up for election, who by association face the same challenge ( Tea Party mostly 2010 elected and up for re-election) I pick the Sun and Saturn to do a basic search;

    CREDO concentrated them into the most destructive – tea party US representatives

    Partial Factors: Destructive Use of Official Authority

    Saturn (authority – mundane astrology)
    Saturn (everyone wants to/needs to feel important – natal astrology)

    Sun (political official – mundane astrology)
    Sun (what we aspire to be – natal astrology)

    I look for direction, force and momentum with astro-analysis;

    astro-syntax: my focus in the reduction of THE TEN is on nouns, and adjectives…. not verbs and adverbs

    this is a repeat of my comment from : storm surge column

    Standout Details – The Tea Party Ten ( plus one )

    I’m at the beginning of down ticket DCCC political analysis now that the convention is complete;

    CO 6th – Mike Coffman
    Natal Sun 29 Pisces
    Solar Arc Sun 26 Taurus (2012)

    IL 8th – Joe Walsh
    Natal Sun 27 Scorpio cnj Romney Natal MO-JU

    FL 18th – Allen West
    Natal Saturn 24 Capricorn – Romney accepts nomination MC 24CP

    NY 1st – Frank Guinta DOB 9/26/1970 re: barbk date 9/26/2012
    Natal Saturn 22 Taurus cnj Fed Government MC 22 TA

  12. Francime says:

    I thought daykeeper did an excellent review of what he saw in Obama’s chart. It might not be what one wants to hear but I don’t think he was glossing over things and it was extremely detailed with things I would never have chexked or thought about. Next week he will do Romney’s chart which should prove interesting too and I would like to know who he sees as the potential winner.

    Did anyone see Marjorie Orr’s blurb last week? Six of one, half dozen of another between the two I think as far as winning.
    Next USA Presidency – a minefield ahead  From: Marjorie. (07 Sep 2012 09:32): 
    On the birth times available Mitt Romney looks as if he has a lot more going for him astrologically speaking at the Election and Inauguration. He has a lucky tr Pluto trine Jupiter/Uranus in November and useful aspects to his MC. Ann Romney similarly looks well supported by Jupiter whereas Barack and Michelle Obama are singularly lacking uplift.

    Whoever wins will do so on a Mercury retrograde election of which there have been two in the recent past. One was the 2000 GWB/Gore disaster and previously in 1980 when Reagan won a convincing majority to bury Jimmy Carter. So would seem to favour the GOP tho’ a sample of two is hardly evidence.

    The Inauguration will either be Sunday 20th or Monday 21st January 2013. Whichever it is, it’ll be a more dangerous Presidency than Barack Obama’s first term. The Obama Inauguration chart hinted at dreams too grand to be realised but not much in the way of disasters. Whereas the up and coming 2013 Inauguration chart looks risky, with high aggravation and acute frustration with the Sun = Mars/Pluto = Uranus/North Node and (if at noon) MC = Saturn/Pluto = Mars/Uranus. So sudden shocking changes wouldn’t be a surprise.

    If Mitt Romney does get in he’s certainly walking into a danger zone on his personal chart – however it plays out whether politically, economically or literally – with his Solar Arc Mars already stressed by having tr Pluto trine from the Inauguration onwards, is also squaring his natal Pluto, exact by this time next year but in effect in the months before as well. And that is dead halt time. Ann Romney also looks seriously jangled next year.

    If Barack Obama gets in again then he has his Solar Arc Mars in the car-collision square to his Sun exact next February but in effect in the months before and after that.

    Depending on when the Inauguration kicks off (normally noon-ish) there could be health/employment issues with Saturn in Scorpio in the 6th. But no matter the time tr Uranus will move to square the Inauguration Pluto from late April, thro’ May 2013 and returning late Sept into October 2013 and Feb/March 2014 which will certainly rock the Presidency on its axis.

  13. Francime says:

    The thing I find interesting about Marjorie is she uses trines and sextiles with midpoints. I was taught to only use the hard aspects.

  14. alex says:

    to clarify Neptune notation:

    Neptune in Pisces:

    Pretense (toxic level of un-reality)
    Pretext (alleged reason)

  15. starlight says:

    I posted a correction on the Daykeeper article about Obama’s solar return which was in DC. He also uses orbs I don’t agree with. For example, he says that the mercury station is square to Obama’s Chiron return, but, in fact, it stops a full degree short before going retrograde. As for the asteroids and black holes, I don’t use them so I can’t comment.

  16. alex says:

    the date of Inauguration:

    as far as I know the legal argument is that the law requires inauguration on 1/20 there might be/or/must be a private ceremony

    and the next day Monday 1/21 the public ceremony

    Nancy’s work is way beyond Alex-at-daykeeperjournal and black hole astrology IMHO…. when you learn/ study mundane astrology it’s a sure bet you can/will find the least best human qualities (extremes) about power to begin with as a ground floor basement analysis a very useful effort…. finding excellent human qualities in mundane astrology is not as useful since it is rare; a politician who is personally evolved is especially rare these days – and rare is not the same as perfect or perfection something that is not the most universal quality in human beings;

    in beginning studies of geopolitical astrology – it’s useful to be black & white in contrasts and comparison;

    reliable prediction (of any type) is very rare; Nancy is a top notch political predictive astrologer;

    daykeeper journal black hole column are about great extremes…. very abstract extremes… it’s hard for me to connect people/politics astrology with the info and statistics he uses but maybe it’s because black hole astrology does not yet have a body of ‘precedent’ events to resource; I find that I need to pull away from abstraction it’s too distracting for me ( then I can be easily distracted :-)

    Marjorie Orr as far as I can remember has lots of missed predictions but you should fact check my memory on that… the hardest thing about prediction of any kind is the following up on THAT one really good prediction; that’s the standard I think about when I read Starlightnews….. Nancy’s practice of prediction is consistent, well written, clear, …. any good political astrology has to weigh in conditionally predictive summaries with conclusive POV / from their model/factors for prediction – that’s honest work;

    what comes to mind is a recent tv commerical for a product I don’t remember but the scene is neighborhood guys hanging out at a backyard BQ… the cook says something about being 99% sure of something… and his buddy says …. so you’re not sure then (it highlights mass consciousness trend in age of information overload that brings about obsessive perfectionism looking to pin down certainty )

  17. starlight says:

    I wish I could promise Obama will win this thing. I think he will but there are so many circumstances and possibilities that cloud the picture. I would expect him to be unhappy to lose, but he could be relieved to be free again to live his life and start a foundation like Clinton without right-wing poison hitting him daily. I would expect Romney to be joyous to win but he could be burdened by the heavy weight of responsibility. He does have some things that suggest possibly good outcomes, but on the whole, Obama seems far more dynamic and loved as we move into early 2013. And that is what I would expect if he were continuing to be POTUS.

    I was looking again at the 2013 Inaugural chart. It has a completely different mood than the one we are under now. I will do a full work up after the election, but it looks like things will be far more wild, more unexpected, with more dangerous events, more violence, possible wars or attacks.

    I don’t think the economy will be the central theme in the same way. Everything in the chart is edgier. I tend to think a lot of this has to do with foreign policy issues, but there is also the possiblity of domestic unrest in December and in the spring of 2013 while that progressed US Sun is square to natal Uranus and activated by the transits.

  18. Davis L says:

    Nancy,
    Per normal, you’ve put together an excellent piece of writing backed by lucid, well grounded astro-analytical thought.

    “The early days of compromise and wanting to make nice (Venus) have now morphed into a pattern of much more assertive action (Mars) to do what needs to be done despite the right-wing hissy fits. Note, for example, the upsurge in executive orders of late that simply bypass a chronically obstructionist Congress,…”

    Presuming an Obama win of the election, (although our right-wing, T-Party need little or no provocation) might there be a relationship between Obama’s Mars influenced behavior and the ruckus we perceive beginning a few days after the election?

    Also, there are many who believe (possibly wishful thinking?) that once re-elected, Obama (as an attorney friend of mine puts it) will be “kickin’ ass and taking names.”

  19. KIM says:

    Starlight or any others that may know, I was wondering if you see Eric Cantor losing his seat to Wayne Powell. Cantor born 6/6/1963 in Richmond Va. I cannot find anything on Wayne Powell.

  20. Davis L says:

    Obama widens lead over Romney despite jobs data: Reuters/Ipsos poll

    “Forty-seven percent of 1,457 likely voters surveyed online over the previous four days said they would vote for Obama if the November 6 elections were held today, compared with 43 percent for Romney.”

    The bump is here! May it grow even larger!
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/08/us-usa-campaign-poll-idUSBRE88619X20120908

  21. Sharon says:

    So what conclusions to you come to, Alex? I don’t totally understand what you are saying these thing mean in terms of them being re-elected. Maybe you are just posting this to get others’ opinions?

  22. starlight says:

    If the Chiron return brings a wound that brings creativity or healing, possibly the activities of the right will produce (are producing) a wound that teaches him something that makes him more effective.

    I think he will be more aggressive, certainly in the first year under these Mars progressions.

    There are an awfully large number of Democrats and Democratically-leaning media that have something around 8 of the fixed signs, which will be hit by Saturn in December in the midst of all this activation of US Uranus (8Gemini55). All I know is there is a lot of agitation and upheaval from somewhere.

  23. KIM says:

    I found Wayne Powell’s on FB, 10/24/1950, it says he was born and raised in Va.’s 7th district.

  24. NEOBuckeye says:

    I think Marjorie favors the Virgo Rising chart for the founding of the US, which I don’t see really, but she does offer an outsider’s perspective being in the UK.

    For the record, I truly hope Obama wins a second term because I see him as a far better steward of the country than Romney, and someone who does care a great deal about people, as opposed to the number of leading zeroes he has in each of his bank accounts. I also dread the return of the neo-conservatives and Ryan’s ideology being played out on a national level if he and Romney win.

    I’ll defer to Nancy and other astrologers on the accuracy part of making election predictions. My main interest remains on larger trends and the overarching flow of time and cycles. The next four years will be dramatic regardless of who wins the Presidency, with the Uranus-Pluto Square unfolding now, as well as Uranus square the US Sun and Pluto opposing the US Sun, but the victor may yet have an impact on the flow and outcome of events. Pluto in Capricorn opposing the US Sun in Cancer looks like a direct corporate takeover/challenge to the fundamental identity of the US. Imagine what that looks like with Romney in the Oval Office. And then with Obama.

  25. starlight says:

    Eric Cantor is a snake. But I think he keeps his seat.

  26. alex says:

    http://www.henricocitizen.com/index.php/news/article/cantor_powell_to_debate_sept._280814

    Powell – Cantor debate: September 28th

    Eric Cantor has received most oil money in Congress

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Saunders_%28political_strategist%29

    ‘Mudcats’ Sanders is campaign adviser to Wayne Powell…. he’s a regular/guest in studio and phone on current tv morning shows Bill Press and Stephanie Miller; Wayne Powell is up against the ‘archetype of coin-operated-government’ Mudcat’s description of Cantor; if his passion is translated into votes Powell must have a chance to overturn Cantor;

    ………..Saunders encourages candidates to show respect for rural culture in order to break through some of the social barriers currently keeping some rural white males from voting for Democrats in larger numbers. He often says that once you can break through the culture, people will listen to what you have to say about the issues.

  27. starlight says:

    I am hoping Virgil Goode stays on the Virginia presidential ballot, but I think Cuchinelli will push him off somehow. He is another of the looney-toons across the river from here.

  28. starlight says:

    Pluto in Capricorn opposing the US Sun in Cancer looks like a direct corporate takeover/challenge to the fundamental identity of the US. Imagine what that looks like with Romney in the Oval Office. And then with Obama.

    Exactly!

  29. alex says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Gy73JDxgvG4

    Wayne Powell – media ad

    http://prospect.org/article/man-who-wants-beat-eric-cantor

    EXCERPT
    Powell, a small business owner and retired Army intelligence officer, thinks Cantor is too ambitious to effectively represent the district. “People are tired of not being listened to, not being attended to—he doesn’t return calls. Unless they’re his supporters or his contributors, he doesn’t have time for them,” says Powell. By contrast, he explains, “I’m a real representative—I don’t want to be speaker or leader of the House.”

    The 7th District is one of the more conservative areas of Virginia—hence, Eric Cantor—so I asked Powell what he would do to distinguish himself from other Democrats, and even President Obama. On Obamacare, he was unwilling to distance himself, and presented his support as the rational decision of a businessman. “I’ve hired two people in the last year who were able to stay on to their parent’s insurance, and so the firm didn’t have to cover it,” he said.

    If there’s an issue where Powell stands in opposition, it’s the war in Afghanistan. He doesn’t think that we should have entered the country, and he thinks we should leave as quickly as possible. “I think we should bring our troops home. That’s my view, as a military guy.”

    As an older, white, military man, Powell has the right kind of profile for a district like Cantor’s. But the simple fact is that the 7th is highly conservative and Cantor is a skilled politician. He’s represented the area for more than a decade and there’s no reason to think that will change soon. That said, you can still hope that this becomes a competitive race—it’s always good for safe politicians to feel a little electoral heat.

  30. pisca says:

    The unseen tax returns just will not go away:
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/08/1129234/-Larry-Flint-Offers-1-Million-For-Mitt-s-Taxes-and-or-Offshore-Account-Info
    And (forgive a repost if I read this here) some say Romney doesn’t want to show that he is better off than he was 4 years ago because Dow Jones has doubled since 2008.

  31. alex says:

    I posted to CREDO TEN data to initiate some crowd sourcing with other astrology-minded individuals to bring enough info together collectively so that the big picture on DCCC races can come into focus; there is too much info for one person to absorb and analyze… the media will do their ‘push polling’ which I recommend you ignore;

    I’ve only begun to look at the DCCC elections way too early for me to come to any conclusion; but I’m not a predictive astrologer my affinity is for probability…. the broad stroke conclusions with probability are – likely or not likely, most likely or least likely;

    this is a good sign: CREDO and others are focusing on the TEAPARTY 2010 tsunami crowd ; Nancy Pelosi D-CA minority leader of House is campaigning and fundraising for Twenty Five seat win; Nancy Pelosi is best fundraiser she gets the job done … and I think it was Sen. Charles Schumer who described it as Twenty-five plus goal, so it looks to me to be the DNC/Administration/Party/political officials are up for this fight ( not so in 2004 or 2000 ); Obama God Bless him did the work in 2008 with an excellent campaign and campaign team – and with George W.’s help :-)

    we are post ‘Citizen’s United’ the money flood brought in the Tea Party House of Representative majority… they have illustrated to the public exactly who they are and they can’t run away from their record with lies/ and maybe not even loads of $dough;

    this election up and down ticket is about a clear choice between two visions for the future; any time you can bring people along to understand that it is a choice/about future and not a referendum/about past on Obama administration will be motivated to vote…. they’ll connect with their survival self interests one would hope and take their friends, family, neighbors and acquaintances to vote with them;

    women are getting real about their possible future under GOP et al; that’s another good sign;

  32. KIM says:

    Oh poo…..he, Mitch McConnell and Boehner need to go….

  33. KIM says:

    Thank you both, even if it is not good news

  34. KIM says:

    That is awesome….Hope that gets the hackers butts moving, lol

  35. Davis L says:

    Starlight,
    “a wound that brings creativity or healing, possibly the activities of the right will produce (are producing) a wound that teaches him something that makes him more effective.”

    That makes perfect sense to me. As he is a black man, I cannot imagine him NOT being wounded by the clearly racist and personal attacks on him. In order to get elected in ’08 he had to play nice guy, to not appear to be an “angry black man.” But I believe the general public would now (after all the obvious racist attacks on him) be comfortable with reasonable and measured righteous anger and action directed toward the culprits.

    Also, I pray none of the Democrats and Democratically-leaning media personalities you referenced are the victims of personal right wing violence. But I have to say were it to happen I would be shocked but not surprised.

  36. alex says:

    Kaine for Senate is important race; you recall George Allen mccaukaaa; two former governors in a state that respects political authority last I read they were neck-to-neck….. the Senate seat in Virginia is paramount race to work for;

    the Cantor race is incumbent vs. challenger a much harder race to win than the Senate seat; I’m not familiar with Kaine as a campaigner… he must have some skills he won governorship; I’m not up on the Kaine vs Allen…. your post reminded me to look;

    as long as Kaine is doing the work and not hoping to get coat-tails from Obama…. he has a chance the alternative Allen is awful; the people of VA and those living close enough to get onto the VA ground-force for Kaine and Obama should make the effort – it’s a most important state to win up and down ticket;

  37. Patty says:

    Thank you Nancy.
    And thank you for this wonderful forum.
    The Koch Brother’s Birthdates were posted in a previous blog. Wonder…if anyone has checked their planets to see happiness…or not.

  38. KIM says:

    Wish I knew how to, Patty…That is a great idea!!

  39. David says:

    As you say starlight; almost as Joe Biden put it – “Obama has a spine of steel and heart of gold”. We must never forget how lucky we are to have him. He cannot and will not lose – the universe would not allow it.

  40. DPH says:

    Just read a nice sidebar story on the DNC convention’s last night. Apparently, the change of venue resulted in 8000 pounds of food being donated to local charities. The Republicans falsely accused the Democrats of changing locations because they couldn’t fill the stadium– a ridiculous charge on its face– but it’s wonderful to know that the change of location benefitted so many people, without being trumpeted by those in charge.

    http://www.aquariuspapers.com/astrology/2012/09/the-dnc-rainout-sometimes-we-are-enriched-through-unfortunate-events.html

  41. Diane L says:

    Thanks for another breath of sanity, Nancy!

    Josh Marshall of TPM is cautiously optimistic about PBO’s post convention poll uptick.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/09/is_there_a_bounce.php?ref=fpblg

  42. Lune Prière says:

    Nancy, does the correct location of the solar return you pointed out in your comment negate some of the reasons for Daykeeper Journal’s negative outlook for Obama? Obviously Jupiter at the midheaven is a huge positive.

    “Nancy September 8, 2012 at 1:13 pm
    Obama was in DC for his birthday. He played golf in the morning at Andrew’s Air Force Base in PG County, MD, and then went to Camp David. Solar return in DC gives him Jupiter conjunct the MC and square the Ascendant. Jupiter comes back to exact crossing of MC for the election. He went to a birthday party in Chicago the following week.”

    Thanks for the great new post.

  43. shoalsister says:

    Hmmm….It will be interesting watching this to see if it holds.

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/gallup-economic-confidence-spikes

    “Between Aug. 26-28 and Sept. 5-7, the Gallup economic confidence index rose by 17 points — from -33 to -16 — a remarkable jump in just over a week.”

  44. fierywoman says:

    He was! He went golfing that morning near DC.

  45. fierywoman says:

    Check out this site:
    http://election.princeton.edu/
    They’re VERY smart and very Dem — they are recommending specific Congressional races that are getting close to having a chance of upsetting the resident Rebug. They think it’s more worthwhile giving to Congressional campaigns because, to them, Obama’s going to win. AND they were more accurate predicting 2008 than Nate Silver.

  46. alex says:

    MoveOn.org sent fundraising email – – excerpt

    We’re working with Workers’ Voice to create the largest independent get-out-the-vote operation in the country. There’s nothing else like it. Because no one else has our 7 million members combined with the enormous resources of the nationwide labor movement.

    Together, using incredibly sophisticated technology that I explain below, we’ll boost the number of progressive voters on Nov. 6. This could truly mean the difference between victory and defeat.

    Around election time, you’ve probably seen those folks with clipboards who go door-to-door, talking to people about the candidates. Research shows that this face-to-face communication is dramatically more effective than big-budget TV ads. It’s by far the best way to get voters to the polls.

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  47. barbk says:

    Nancy, I am interested in your comment above about the large number of Democrats and Democratic-leaning media sources that have something around the 8’s in fixed signs. There are a lot of “8’s” in the solar return chart for the U.S. this year and one of them is Mercury at 8+ Leo in the 8th house. There is also Pluto at 8+ Cap, Venus at 8+ Gemini and Uranus at 8+ Aries.

    This Monday, Sept. 10, 2012, is the anniversary of a total solar eclipse in 1923. Because he was allowed to view that eclipse in Mexico (where it was total), the discoverer of asteroid Hidalgo named it after Father Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla, a Mexican priest known as “the father of Mexican independence”. Hidalgo represents the principle of imperativeness. Among other things, it impels one to assertion, advocacy, and promotion on behalf of self and others. Transiting Hidalgo is at 8+ Sagittarius and is opposing the U.S. natal Uranus right now.

    Transiting Hidalgo has just been joined by the transiting mother-daughter team of centaurs Chariklo (Chiron’s wife) and Okyrhoe (Chiron’s daughter), both now at 8+ Sagittarius and opposite the U.S. natal Uranus. Chariklo has to do with redefining the concept of boundries and forgiving inadvertent transgressions.

    Transiting Hidalgo, Chariklo and Okyrhoe at 8+ Sagittarius also form a grand trine with the U.S. Solar Return chart’s Mercury in Leo and Uranus in Aries (Pallas-Athene, the strategist is also conjunct the SR Uranus).

    As the date of the 1923 eclipse plays a role in how Hidalgo got his name, and because Hidalgo (and Chiron’s wife and daughter) are opposing the U.S. Uranus (near the cusp of partners), it might signify some new development in Mexico-U.S. relations. Perhaps something that has been hidden up until now.

    Because Mercury would represent the media, and it’s position at 8+ Leo (2 degrees from the U.S. north node) in the U.S. solar return chart would activate those Democrats and Democrat-leaning media entities with fixed “8’s” in their charts, it might be advantageous to be alert on Monday for any related news regarding Mexico.

  48. Noelle says:

    You’ve got it, David, and we need to believe that instead of all this hand wringing and wondering if the Koch brothers will look happy, etc. Obama is going to win..trust the Universe on this one.

  49. Roderick says:

    I can’t imagine that anyone would want to vote for Allen.

    Did the Republicans not have another candidate who wanted the nomination?

    Kaine like his current succesor was not a good DNC chairman. I just wish that Rahm had minded his own business and Howard Dean were still chairman because he was very successful.

  50. Lorrie U says:

    I feel the same way. I cannot believe in a Universe which supports and rewards efforts based in lies, deception, theft, vulture capitalism, and raw abuse of power. I must trust in a Universe that rewards good intentions and honest effort. We cannot go back in consciousness, even if it’s not as forward as we would like it to be.

  51. Lorrie U says:

    11,000 Show Up for Obama in Florida While Romney Draws Hundreds in Virginia
    http://www.politicususa.com/11000-show-obama-florida-romney-draws-hundreds-virginia.html

  52. alex says:

    Roderick:

    Kaine was a good governor and was appreciated; he was a let down in DNC chair but his successor Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is smashingly good;

    Dean was excellent for that window of time he lead DNC org out of depression and second best; Dena- they accomplished much of his 50 state agenda it became much better because of Dean;

    the challenges for 2008 were different with Obama nominee he got the job done and he used the DNC in ways that were outstanding, innovative and successful (there must be a book about it that I haven’t read yet but one must have been written);

    Obama and Kaine had/have close working relationship as far as I know…. I don’t know what Kaine-chair DNC did for 2010 elections but he didn’t get the job done… that was the first wave from ‘Citizen’s United’ mega money; the Republican governors association produced all the negative ads against the public did not know it was Republican governor’s association that was the GOP-war-room that trashed Obama and Pelosi attaching that negativity against the incumbent and new Dem candidates for house representatives….. Koch money gave us the GOP house majority with their tea party extremists;

    I don’t know if Dean could have held the house majority as DNC chair but remember Dean turned down a second term as chair …. to work the field of politics from ‘Democracy for America’ the progressive talented org founded with Dean’s brother;

    Kaine needs to be VA Senator…. is seems to me not a comparison of character or even experience with Allen that is the controlling factor…. it is an election where the GOP will say, do whatever it can to continue it’s control of VA up and down to extend that control;

    Kaine is running for Senator but he is being challenged by the entire GOP and their money superpac arms…..

    after 2010 the tea party said they were going to concentrate their resources, time, and people to win Senate majority; it comes as no surprise since they immediately broadcast their intent as soon as the 2010 GOP house majority was won;

    VA in a battleground to what degree the political insiders know and VA voters know – I don’t read political polls I check in once in a while at dailykos to see what they have to say as they weigh all the pollsters and have their own polling experts….. even so whatever Kaine is he is good POTENTIAL to keep Jim Webb’s Senate seat ( Jim Webb was disappointing he didn’t caucus with Dems as much as his enthusiastic supporters thought he would;

    we need Kaine …. and he’ll be 10X better than Webb in the Senate;

  53. Lorrie U says:

    Two Pictures Shatter the Mainstream Media Myth of an ‘Obama Enthusiasm Gap’
    http://www.politicususa.com/mainstream-medias-obama-enthusiasm-gap.html

  54. Lorrie U says:

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha…

    Pants On Fire Mitt Romney tells 616 Lies in 33 Weeks
    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/09/08/mitt-romney-616-lies-in-33-weeks/

  55. Teresa Hill says:

    Hi,
    Stats Guru Nate Silver, writing for the NYTimes, has Obama at his highest percentage change of winning yet: 79.8% <====
    Isn't that a beautiful number? :)
    Basically, Mitt got no bounce from his convention, and he's never held the lead in this race, ever.
    President Obama got a bounce, and we don't even know how big it is yet, because the opinion polls cover a number of days worth of data and only a small fraction of the data we've seen so far includes polls taken mid-Convention. Nate thinks about 30% of the date points are from after President Clinton's speech.
    So it's no telling how much more of a bump the President got from that glorious convention.
    Nate even mentions the B-word. (I'm going to whisper… Blowout.) That at this point, Obama may be leading by 10-11 points!
    He says in past races where one candidate has never led in the polls at all, the other candidate always went on to have a… B-word. (Don't want to jinx anything.) Although he comes right back and says he doesn't think Obama will win by a blowout margin.
    He concludes: upside for Romney at this point is that Obama's poll numbers cool and Romney's two points or so down, still possible he can win.
    But… "Mr. Romney’s downside case is that Mr. Obama’s polling bounce will be a little stickier, and that Mr. Obama will already be fairly close to having achieved 50 percent of the vote with precious few undecided voters left in the race. That would make Mr. Romney a clear underdog — perhaps even one who needs some foreign policy or economic crisis to intervene to give him much of a chance at winning."

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/08/sept-8-conventions-may-put-obama-in-front-runners-position/#more-34262

    Side note: today, Mitt visited a veteran's museum and tried to pretend troops were important to him. He went to another Nascar race that was pretty much rained out, couldn't name one, single driver he liked or rooted for, passed out hot dogs, "spontaneously" recited the Pledge of Allegiance and promised to keep "In God We Trust" on our coins while campaigning with Pat Robertson, the God-drowned-New-Orleans-because-we're-too-nice-to-gays minister.

  56. Prabhata says:

    I hope that Mexico tells the U.S. that the war on drugs is over, and that it will decriminalize drugs. And if the U.S. has a problem with that, too bad. Anyone with the most basic understanding of economic principles knows that if there’s demand, someone will fill the demand. Only stupid Reagan and his bizarre economist, Laffer, could come up with the “supply side economics”. As long as there’s demand for drugs, others will make sure to fill the demand. That war on drugs is destroying not just Mexico, but the whole Latin America as criminals run amok killing people to make money.

  57. Betsy says:

    I read today that Romney campaigned in front of a crowd of a few hundred in Virginia, while Obama was in Florida in front of a crowd of about 11,000. Romney seems to be suffering an enthusiasm gap.

    http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/video-obama-speaks-large-crowd-st-pete-college-seminole

  58. NEOBuckeye says:

    I’m actually surprised there haven’t been more outright physical attacks on Democrats and liberals from ideology crazed right-wingers and lunatics similar to the Gabby Giffords event. I’m thankful that this has not been the case, but I also worry with the corporate media and Republican Party establishment fully embracing a no compromise ideology that these types of events will indeed happen in due time, not unlike the murder of the Kennedys, King, and so many Civil Rights advocates in the 60s whom also threatened the status quo of that time, untenable as it was. What will it finally take for people to see that dealing death upon the things and people we feel are a threat to us ultimately does nothing to resolve our troubles?

  59. mitzi says:

    Very insiring post, Nancy! In the “weird and wacky” world I’m living in these days,your clarity and insights calm my jaggered nerves and spark in me a surge of focused direction(GPS style)-destination? INFINITE INTELLIGENCE! The invaluable service you provide,along with the depth and wit,of the starlight seekers who post on your blog,always renders me sane, while grounding me TRUTH. Thank you!

  60. Davis L says:

    NEOBuckeye,
    “but I also worry with the corporate media and Republican Party establishment fully embracing a no compromise ideology that these types of events will indeed happen in due time”

    Me too….I’ve seen it coming for a very long time. I so, so hope I’m wrong. I don’t think most of us want to live in an American version of the “troubles” experienced in 20th century N. Ireland. I think it won’t happen as long as the right wingers are still invested, i.e. believe they can eventually prevail through the present political process. As soon as they conclude otherwise the violence IMHO will drastically increase.

  61. Jerry says:

    Hi Alex,

    I thought your Daykeeper election article was well written and informative. You seem to attach importance to “minor’ asteroid aspects which I find slightly obscure i.e. in terms of traditional astrology. But I don’t wish to minimize the significance of it. I’m sure it contains a certain amount of validity.

    There was one major aspect you may have unintentionally missed. I wonder if you would care to comment…. tr. Saturn’s conjunction to the US progressed Saturn (3 Scorpio). To me, this could indicate a critical juncture in the way US elections are conducted. Would the entire electoral college process be called into question if left to their devices the Republican’s manipulate another election in their favor? As far as I can gather, the flaws in the system have not been fully addressed and eradicated.

    The following is Robert Wilkerson’s explanation of a Saturn aspect….

    Saturn cycles – What it means when it makes a conjunction, square or opposition to planets or the Ascendant

    by Robert Wilkinson

    When Saturn touches a planet or significant point in the chart, we say that Saturn is conjunct that point. Often when a planet or our Ascendant is conjuncted by Saturn, it leads to feeling depressed, oppressed, or repressed. However, by seeing what is obsolete and methodically and maturely eliminating old structures of doing or experiencing, we can find our way to our true selves, freed from prejudices and traps of fear or limiting behaviors that stifle our Spirit. A Saturn transit is a time when we get clear about who we are and who we aren’t.

    Continued…..

    http://www.aquariuspapers.com/astrology/2005/12/saturn_cycles_w.html

  62. Connie says:

    Pres Obama began this Florida tour in St Pete a very blue area and home of Charlie Crist, across the bay from where the RNC was held.
    http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/obama-kicks-off-florida-tour-at-fired-up-rally-in-pinellas/1250487
    Hoping Alan Grayson shows up with the Pres somewhere during this trip. Florida was blue in 2008 and I’m pretty sure it will be again.

  63. Elizabeth says:

    President Obama spent his birthday golfing at camp Andrews Air Force Base then to Maryland Catoctin mountains in the afternoon and then to Camp David for the evening.. It wasn’t DC or Chicago..

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fobama-kicks-off-51st-birthday-golf-course-160705263.html&ei=jp9MUMOsMqmr0AG3toGABw&usg=AFQjCNHoCS66Z4aGs7IfJlP57J4B0FADVQ&sig2=e4aq6zb0_UuiQ8LNUz36wQ

    Nancy, how does Maryland differ from him being in DC? Is it pretty much the same?

    Also, I was curious what Mitch McConnell’s chart looks like come Nov 7th? I was thinking that could be quite telling to election results..

    I know you have addressed this already, but is there any chance at all that President Obama gets both houses of congress back even if just for the first half until 2014?

  64. Bob says:

    Jerry,

    I have felt strongly that with various charts for election day not being as strong as I would like them to be and with Neptune so active in many of them that the Rethugs, knowing they didn’t have the chance of a snowball in hell of winning the Presidency, did not tinker with the voting process in an all out manner in 2008 but by attacking the wallets and purses of the electorate during the President-to-be’s term would perhaps have a chance in the following General Election to take back the White House and if that turned out to be the case they would try to steal an election by controlling the voting machines in some of the swing states where it would be hard to argue with the results unless they were caught red handed.

    We are in that situation now and I hope that the Dems put extra eyes in swing states polling places and strict policies regarding the handling of electronic voting and vote counting machines in them.

  65. alex says:

    FYI:
    http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/2012/09/07/20120907BC-CNS-DNC-Voting-Rights.html

    Voter-protection teams, as Bauer and the campaign call them, have been working in battleground states since the beginning of 2012. The teams are tasked with monitoring local election laws and regulations and reporting any “shenanigans” or other potential problems through the chain of command. They talk with election officials about voter requirements and other regulation changes that could confuse voters.

    The campaign is also asking lawyers working with the voter-protection teams to volunteer as poll workers and poll watchers so they can monitor the process.

    “On the ground, every day, this is taking place,” Bauer said. “(It) involves Chicago, Washington and all of the states that are involved in this effort.”

    http://ofa.bo/victory, allows volunteers to sign up as poll watchers for the Obama campaign.

  66. Bob says:

    I would like to look at election night and the following day in a way that has not been done so far but I need help from posters here to do so.

    If anyone can provide the birth data for people they know for a fact are Republicans or people who they are fairly sure will vote for Romney (ordinary people, who are not running for office at any level) I would greatly appreciate it. Names are not necessary but birth times, birth places and current residence are. I have done a few but would like to have a larger sample than what I have. I will share the results with this list.

  67. alex says:

    PS:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F4-wvcgWzTA

    Time Kaine Remarks at 2012 Democratic National Convention

  68. angellight says:

    Good article Nancy!

    Alex: You are right that this is a Choice between two different visions for America.

    I believe Romney refusing to show his tax payers are hurting him a lot more with the American people than he realizes.

  69. Diane L says:

    Another example of Neptune & the Romney-Ryan charts . . . they refuse to identify tax loopholes they’ll close. The “just trust me” line is so Neptune.

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/romney-ryan-tax-loopholes.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

  70. DPH says:

    Elizabeth, I’m not in Nancy’s league, but I can answer one of your questions. The President’s solar return took place at 9:03 AM on August 4th, while he was still in Washington DC. Very good news for his solar return chart!

  71. starlight says:

    Andrews AFB is in PG County, adjacent to DC and only a short drive away. He would have gone there from the White House, not slept there for the night.

  72. starlight says:

    In response to NEO from above: Gabby Giffords was shot during the year when the US pr Sun (7Pisces) was square to pr Uranus at 7Gemini55. The Moon was conjunct the Ascendant at the moment of the shooting at 7 Pisces06. There was also a Jupiter/Uranus conjunction. Let me repeat (ad nauseum) my concerns about the progressed Sun square to natal Uranus that begins this month and the triggers in December.

  73. Lorrie U says:

    My concern is more with the rigged electronic voting machines. They have been manufactured by right-wing companies. It’s been proven time and again that they can be hacked, and you can vote for one person and it switches it to the opposite. That’s harder to prove.

  74. Lorrie U says:

    I very definitely remember in a past post that Starlight said McConnell did not look happy either after the election or with the new congress.

  75. Lorrie U says:

    Jerry, thanks for posting Wilkinson’s perspective. I am already feeling the effects of Saturn as it approaches conjuncting my Asc. in 2013. I’m having to look at setting priorities in order to prevent feeling drained by the responsibilites I’ve taken on which are important to me. Robert Hand says, “your responsibilities will increase considerably, and you will try to eliminate everything in your life that is not necessary to fulfilling them. Therefore, your life will become more complex and simpler at the same time.” For me, it’s a time of eliminating the unnecessary in order not to overload myself to do the work that I find is my life’s work.

  76. barbk says:

    Nancy, your repeated concerns are not in any way ad nauseum. We appreciate the reminders, especially when they could save lives.

  77. mitzi says:

    On that note,lets all collectively continue to extend a “Devine Umbrella of PROTECTION” upon all, particullarly our President, his family, and all those who stand up and publically support him. LOVE and LIGHT!

  78. Lorrie U says:

    I have one person who is definitely a catholic republican and good at spouting the rhetoric so pretty sure she will vote R/R. Her birthdate is 11/02/1965 @ 2:08 PM MST in Tucson, AZ.

  79. Lorrie U says:

    P.S. – She is also currently living in Tucson.

  80. Lorrie U says:

    This may sound bizarre but I got this idea ages ago from someone and I did it during the 2008 election and again now. By putting someone’s name on a piece of paper and freezing it in the freezer, it renders the person ineffective. Maybe a little on the “witchy” side, but then we don’t really know if it works, so why not?

  81. Jerry says:

    Hi Alex,

    Yes. I understand. I was referring to the electoral college process……

    How Obama and Romney Could Tie in the Electoral College

    Every four years, Americans get a refresher course in civics. We’re reminded we don’t elect the president or vice president directly. Instead, our votes elect ‘electors’ who make up the Electoral College. They cast votes for the candidates on our behalf.

    Continued…..

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-romney-could-tie-electoral-college-just-explain-194537108.html

    This curiously antiquated system is vulnerable to aggressive lobbying tactics. The GOP is currently using it as leverage in some of the ‘swing states’ to gain unfair advantage. Former President Bill Clinton addressed this issue in his DNC speech a few days ago…….

    GOP Voter Suppression ID Laws May Affect Millions of Legal Voters

    The Brennan Center’s report doubles its estimated impact from last fall as 2012 voting rights litigation heats up.

    July 18, 2012

    Stricter new voter ID laws passed by GOP-controlled legislatures have the potential to affect millions of voters in 10 states this fall, including large numbers in the presidential swing states of Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, according to a new report by the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU Law School.

    The voters most likely to be affected are half-a-million low-income people who don’t have a car or easy access to state offices to obtain the “alternative forms of ID” these new voter suppression laws say would allow otherwise eligible voters to get a ballot. Moreover, 10 million eligible voters–including many African Americans and Latinos–live more than 10 miles from these offices, which in some states are open only several days a month.

    Continued…..

    http://www.alternet.org/story/156377/gop_voter_suppression_id_laws_may_affect_millions_of_legal_voters

    No thoughts on Saturn’s conjunction to the US progressed Saturn in the election day chart?

  82. Lorrie U says:

    I have a theory that I believe works. If it’s true that we can overcome birth karma (our astrological dna) by choices made in this lifetime and being granted grace, then the effects of our astrological aspects can be mitigated through higher consciousness. One still in a more dense consciousness would feel the effects differently than one who has achieved a certain amount of enlightenment.

    Perhaps the reason why it’s so difficult to get a read on outcomes of elections now is because of the choices we’ve made collectively in prior ones. Had Al Gore been granted his presidency as I believe was his right, our planet would have moved forward in a different manner than with Bush, climate change and green energy would have been addressed rather than the war energy. Had we elected McCain/Palin, the wars would have most likely been made worse, even perhaps with Clinton. We collectively chose Obama to start turning the ship in a different direction. The astrological aspects would have been the same either way, but the effects may be mitigated by one action over another. Perhaps that’s why there’s been so many periods of time recently where there has been great hand-wringing and anxiety in anticipation of an aspect, only to have it pass rather quietly.

    Maybe the choice we made in 2008 is having an affect on the aspects we are having now. I’m sure if this election was about an incumbent republican rather than an incumbent democrat, we’d be seeing a different outcome even though the aspects were the same. And the election is between candidates with no social or moral compass versus one who has been maligned unfairly and has tried to bring progress. The one with the higher consciousness would have any difficult aspects mitigated versus the one who is more dense.

    This is still a work in progress in my mind, so hope that makes sense. I’m throwing it out there just as some food for thought.

  83. Lorrie U says:

    BTW, I have Mercury transiting my Sun/Venus/Neptune and Venus trine Jupiter this week, so perhaps my “theory” is being inspired by a higher source?

  84. Bob says:

    I knew about the teams. But there were reports regarding the voting machines specifically after the 2004 election stating that some voting machines were taken into closed rooms and no witnesses were allowed to see what, if anything, was done to them.

    If vote changing or counting is done electronically it will not be seen by observers. The machines must be inspected by a representative of an independent company just before the polls open and immediately after the polls close. Better yet, force the voting machines to leave a paper trail or ban their use in all elections. At least one of the company’s that manufacture the voting machines also make ATMs which print out receipts as do scanners in stores.

  85. Bob says:

    Thank you Lorrie. If others supply information I will wait until contributions seem to have run their course to thank everybody at once. Or maybe I should just say “Thank you all in advance”?

  86. will says:

    What To Say to Catholic voters who swing to the Right.

    I am voting for President Obama because his over-all policies and positions fully embrace the basic teachings of Christ.

    It has a stunning effect.

  87. Bob says:

    Using my progressed lunar technique it shows her to be quite happy election night. Whether this is in regards to the Presidential race or some other one I can’t say. I did the charts for 11 pm MST on election night but they cover the entire evening starting about 7 pm.

  88. clymela says:

    Nancy-thank you so much for your calm as you swim the depths. I agree that the times are wilder=Uranus sq Pluto is probably as wild as we can contain.
    What are you using for the Inauguration date-(no question mark key today).
    Thank you for this thoughtful and thought provoking article. Reading your thoughts and the responses has helped me to settle into a deeper reflection somewhere beyond the cat fighting between the lefties and the righties.

  89. angellight says:

    Lorrie U: There is such a battle going on between the Forces of Light & the Forces of Materialism & Darkness. I certainly don’t understand it all, but astrologers can see when the gateways are open for more light to enter. As esoteriscists, we visualize light & love flowing into the etheric body of earth. As the meditators grow, so does the light & love on the planet. As each of us let our light & love shine so does the Earth grow in these divine and most potent qualities.

  90. alex says:

    the daykeeper url wasn’t posted by me;

  91. Patty says:

    So Inspirational. Share it with friends/family.
    ONE TERM MORE…
    http://www.onetermmore.com/video_subtitles.html

  92. Seeker says:

    I have another for you! My father is a former military man (do they ever stop being military men)? He is a super partisan Repug…a Teabagger, glen beck devotee, etc. Birth data for the Colonel is:

    12/4/33
    Brooklyn, Ny
    7:10am

  93. shoalsister says:

    Here’s one for you, Bob. July 5, 1950. 2:30am, Corpus Christi, TX. Die hard Repub.

  94. pisca says:

    Oh thank you for sharing! I am trying it.

  95. pisca says:

    This is what the nuns on the bus are saying. I have tried to tell some diehard Repub Cathlics about the nuns on the bus but they accused me of making it up !!! If fox isn’t reporting it, they really believe that it can’t be true. So when the sister from the bus spoke at the Dem convention, I thought here was proof for them…. but then I realized that they would never watch a dem convention.
    However, I have heard stories of people who do vote their own conscience but would never vocalize it. One lady told me that she always voted democratic but never told anyone until after her husband (staunch repub) died.

  96. Sharon says:

    Good thought! Undoubtedbly!

  97. Bob says:

    Seeker, I used 11 pm, EST, Brooklyn. A mixed bag but there is an exact square to the MC by his progressed Jupiter. My belief is that it is the nature of the planet making an aspect, not the aspect, which determines a positive or negative interpretation, so this is positive.

  98. Bob says:

    Shoalsister, I used 11 pm, CST, Corpus Christi. This is the first negative result so far.

  99. fierywoman says:

    … and don’t you notice that the dem crowds look very joyful and the repug crowds always look glum or angry?

  100. Bob says:

    I tried to send this through “Contact Me” but was informed 3 times that I had filled out the captcha numbers incorrectly. NOT SO!!!

    Nancy, I would like to send you 7 articles about e-voting machines. They are old and not available online anymore as far as I know. They reveal close ties of Republican members of our government with the manufactures of these abominations. One of them is as interesting as any thriller.

    I have them saved as RTFs and could attach them as a zip file to an email. You have my email addy, let me know if you are interested.

    Bob

  101. angellight says:

    “The stimulus has launched a transition to a clean-energy economy, doubled our renewable power, and financed unprecedented investments in energy efficiency, a smarter grid, electric cars, advanced biofuels, and green manufacturing. It is computerizing America’s pen-and-paper medical system. Its Race to the Top is the boldest education reform in U.S. history. It has put in place the biggest middle-class tax cuts in a generation, the largest research investments ever, and the most extensive infrastructure investments since Eisenhower’s interstate highway system. It includes the largest expansion of antipoverty programs since the Great Society, lifting millions of Americans above the poverty line, reducing homelessness, and modernizing unemployment insurance. Like the first New Deal, Obama’s stimulus has created legacies that last: the world’s largest wind and solar projects, a new battery industry, a fledgling high-speed rail network, and the world’s highest-speed Internet network.”

    The New New Deal, Michael Grunwald

  102. starlight says:

    Bob – You can send anything to nancy@starlightnews.com

    Thanks!

  103. starlight says:

    The Unsung Story. Have you read the book? They keep recommending it on MSNBC. It sounds quite important.

  104. kiwi says:

    maybe I’ll put Fox news in the fridge! LOL

  105. Lune Prière says:

    Your comment is very interesting Lorrie. I’m nearing the end of a long back and forth passage of Saturn over my Sun/Mercury (ruler, so ascendant is involved) oppose Moon, all squaring Neptune. The depletion of my physical and mental energy has been quite marked. The other thing I found was that Saturn to the exact Mercury-Neptune square in my chart was the most difficult of the Saturn contacts, even more than the hits to the Sun-Moon. Also I literally can’t see something that’s right in front of me! I’m pretty comfortable with Saturn but this time I’m SO ready for it to move on! It’s great that you are preparing for it now!

  106. Lune Prière says:

    Good idea, I will focus light and continue to pray for the First Family.

  107. Lune Prière says:

    I’m putting Mitch McConnell in the freezer. And R&R are going in there too.

  108. Davis L says:

    Bob,
    As mercury retrogrades on election day, and the election results may therefore be incomplete or possibly flat out wrong, would it not also be prudent to look at those same charts for around the 26th when mercury goes direct?

  109. Francime says:

    Here is one for you Bob, 10-12-55 Phoenix, Az lives in Tucson now. My SIL. 7:08 p.m.

  110. Elizabeth says:

    Thank you, DPH. I am so happy to hear that!

  111. arbo says:

    Whoa! You must know my sister-in-law. :)

  112. Teresa Hill says:

    This is a long-time Wiccan ritual which I’ve used before (on a certain editor of mine) and I thought it worked great.

    The idea is to freeze them in terms of your life. So that they have no effect on your life, so I’ve always thought it was more of a personal relationship thing. Never tried it on someone like a politician.

    Still, can’t hurt.

  113. alex says:

    Mormons have bizarre ‘conversion’ ritual where they take people off obituary lists and convert them to Mormonism I guess for some Mormon afterlife… what the heck do I know … in any case they were doing it with dead Jews… and the Jewish religious leaders got pissed made a big fuss about it ( that you can find in articles from google search ) so why not freeze the Romney campaign staff… hell the suckers are converting us without permission;

  114. Jerry says:

    Ok. Saturn’s conjunction to the US progressed Saturn (almost exact conjunction on election day)… it is mentioned by noted astrologer Adrian Duncan in his in-depth analysis of the November US elections. He seems to associate this aspect as a difficult period in the restructuring of the US economy. Will the US economy slow down and enter a double dip recession at that time? And if so, will it become a hotly contested election issue? Here’s the pertinent excerpt…….

    The Future of America

    “….Obama’s Venus also conjoins the US Venus, which means the economic crisis has been his crisis. And his South Node is exactly on the US moon at 27 Aquarius. Romney has his Moon/Jupiter sextile US Pluto and square US Moon, Mercury trine US Sun, and his sun is opposite US Neptune and square Mars. It is not a very convincing – or beneficial – match.

    But this is not a harmonious time for the USA. Its progressed sun is exactly square natal Uranus in Gemini from 2011-2013 which shows a destabilized nation and presidency, vulnerable to unprecedented and unpredictable change. With Uranus and Pluto powerfully activating the US Sun/Saturn square during the next presidential period, this is a double Uranus influence on the Sun, which will lead to a powerful polarization between congress and president, and perhaps major disruptive events on an international level. Yet Uranus and Pluto often evoke panic, when the facts on the ground are not as bad as they seem. As Saturn enters Scorpio it will conjoin the US progressed Saturn, which currently is exactly trine US Venus, and this indicates long-term economic restructuring, which may be hard but is also healthy. Neptune is also transiting in trine to US Venus, which does not promise much economic respite, but it does suggest a kindness and charity, which is a strong characteristic of the nation.”

    http://astrology69.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/the-future-of-america/#more-459

  115. barbk says:

    On the chance that anyone was curious about the Mexico Eclipse thing in 1923, I looked at the Mexico City chart for that day (9/10/23) and discovered that Chiron was at 20+ Aries retro, which matches the U.S. natal Chiron at 20 Aries 8.

    Also, the Eclipse Mars at 6+ Virgo matches Pres. Obama’s natal Pluto at 6+ Virgo, that opposes his natal Chiron which Nancy writes about in the last thread I believe. Transiting Chiron is at 6+ Pisces retro now, opposite the 1923 Eclipse Mars and Obama’s Pluto, and on it’s way back to conjunct Obama’s Chiron exactly in early October.

    The eclipse chart set in Mexico City has 13 Cancer on the 7th house cusp (partner) with Pluto at 12 Cancer 10. It is part of a grand trine in water including Jupiter at 14 Scorpio and Uranus at 15 Pisces retro. Transiting Jupiter in Gemini right now squares the eclipse Uranus, which opposes the eclipse Sun/Moon/Venus all at 17+ Virgo.

    There is nothing (major) in Mexico’s chart at 8+ Virgo (where trans. Hidalgo is now) or at 8+ Gemini (where the U.S. Uranus is) but 8 Gemini would fall in Mexico’s 2nd house, near the 3rd house cusp, so money/value and/or communications or neighbors comes to mind. 8+ Virgo would fall in the 6th house of service and near the south node of Mexico’s chart. (9/28/1821 at 6PM LMT, Mexico city)

    I believe the Texas mayor who spoke so eloquently at the Democrat convention and who sat next to Michelle Obama is from Mexico isn’t he? Wonder when he and his twin brother were born. hmmm. . .

    Transiting Jupiter in Gemini (twins) squares 1923 eclipse Uranus in Pisces, and progressed U.S. Sun in Pisces squares natal U.S. Uranus in Gemini (twins) this month. There’s all the makings of a pattern here and I am on the hunt!

  116. Teresa Hill says:

    I’m not a Wiccan, but I have a friend who’s a high priestess. She would never condone the baptism without permission thing.

    The freezing trick is not about them, not really. It’s about freezing them out of your life. Protecting your space. Not letting them do to you.

    Wiccans are very much a do-no-harm kind of thing. You have a right to say, please keep them out of my life, my head, my energy field. But not to direct their life.

  117. shoalsister says:

    Barb, love it when you are on the hunt…especially as the ripples spread wider and wider and patterns are revealed! Ah, Pallas and her patterns. Strategy’s foundation? Where’s Pallas in all this?

    Here’s a fun bit about Julian Castro.
    http://now.msn.com/julian-castro-biography
    I like the story of his grandmother winning the menudo contest and paying the hosp bill when the twins were born. She was the immigrant, as a six year old orphan. No idea if the immigration was legal. Wouldn’t be unusual if it wasn’t. We really like him down here in the heart of Texas. He’s a very progressive mayor and making big, good changes…environmental and education are two strong focuses.

  118. Seeker says:

    Bob, My father (aka “the Colonel”) was born at 7:10am EST No doubt that the time is correct. Not sure why you changed the time to fit a particular summary?

    I find the final exact point of transiting Pluto opposing his natal moon (in early dec) to be significant.

  119. Seeker says:

    Oh and he currently lives in Phoenix, Arizona.

  120. Seeker says:

    LOL My too!

  121. shoalsister says:

    I don’t suppose that would change much if his current location is Houston? Hard to tell if this reflects election outcome or not…his life is kind of a mess right now anyway.

  122. Patty says:

    Hi Bob, Here’s another ‘die-hard’ Republican…who’s betting the farm on Romney/Ryan.
    3/3/32-Time-Unknown-Cleveland OH

  123. Jerry says:

    Inside Job (2010)

    Video: 108 min

    http://www.filmsforaction.org/Watch/Inside_Job_2010/

    2010 Oscar Winner for Best Documentary, ‘Inside Job’ provides a comprehensive analysis of the global financial crisis of 2008, which at a cost over $20 trillion, caused millions of people to lose their jobs and homes in the worst recession since the Great Depression, and nearly resulted in a global financial collapse. Through exhaustive research and extensive interviews with key financial insiders, politicians, journalists, and academics, the film traces the rise of a rogue industry which has corrupted politics, regulation, and academia. It was made on location in the United States, Iceland, England, France, Singapore, and China.

  124. alex says:

    Hi Barbk,

    sidebar: 2012 election chart

    Fire Trine – Synastry

    25 Aries – Ann Romney n.node,sun,venus

    trine

    25 Leo – T/ Hekate

    trine

    25 Sagittarius – T/Excalibur

    ——

    Fixed Grand Cross

    25-27 Aquarius – USA Moon ( depending on Sibley or Scorpio rising )

    square

    26 Scorpio – N. Node 2012 Election
    (cnj Mitt Romney Moon-Jupiter @27Scorpio)

    square

    25 Leo – T/Hekate 2012 Election

    square

    26 Taurus – S. Node 2012 Election

    ———-
    2012 Election Midpoint Nemesis/Hidalo @22 Sagittarius
    cnj Election Mars 22 Sagittarius

    [ nemesis 01 capricorn, hildalgo 13 sagittarius)

    2012 Election Moira @18 Pisces
    (cnj Mitt Romney Natal Ceres 18 Pisces)

    http://consciousevolution.com/metamorphosis/0402/goddess0402.htm

    Demetra George ( Dark Goddesses )
    Moira, Nemesis, Hekate

  125. angellight says:

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  126. Bob says:

    I should have made it clear that the 11 pm time was for election night. I used 7:10 am, EST for his birth chart.

  127. barbk says:

    Prabhata, shoalsister, alex,

    Thank you! It gets curiouser and curiouser. . like a little trail of breadcrumbs in the forest.

    As for Pallas-Athene, she’s still conjunct Uranus, but even closer to her square with Pluto. However she will actually back up into Pisces, stopping at 22 degrees (opposite U.S. Neptune and Obama’s Mars!) in the 2nd half of November and stationing direct.

    Julian Castro has his Sun at 22 Virgo, conjunct the U.S. Neptune and Obama’s Mars.

    Mayor Castro also has his Uranus at 26 Libra, where transiting Saturn was up until yesterday.

    His natal Pluto at 6+ Libra is being squared by transiting Pluto at 6+ Capricorn retrograde and opposed by transiting Pallas Athene at 6+ Aries retro, and soon Uranus at 6+ Aries retro. In fact the exact square between Uranus and Pluto on Sept. 19th will form a T-square with his Pluto. The Sun in the chart for Mexico is at 5+ Libra.

    Mayor Castro has natal Neptune at 7 Sagittarius where the asteroids named for Chiron’s wife and daughter were until a few days ago and, now at 8 Sagittarius, they join transiting Hildago.

    Coincidentally, his Chiron at 23 Aries retrograde is only 3 degrees past the U.S. Chiron and the Chiron in the eclipse chart for September 10, 1923.

    Julian Castro has his 38th birthday in 6 days.

    alex, your midpoint between Nemesis and Hildago on Election Day at 22 Sagittarius which fits in with the U.S. Neptune/Obama Mars (and now Castro’s Sun) at 22 Virgo has me wanting more. Will check out your link ASAP. (Should also include Pallas’ station direct on November 20th. Might even be tied into the Mercury retrograde thing. When Mercury stations direct on Nov. 26th it will be quincunx Romney’s Uranus as well as trine his Ceres and the Election Moira!)

    Also, clever Hekate is in the election grand trine AND the fixed cross. Curiouser and curiouser.

  128. Bob says:

    Seeker, the change in location changes the result to a negative election night and the next day. I used 10 pm, MST, election night to get the results.

  129. Bob says:

    Sister, the change in location makes the negative aspects a little stronger.

  130. Bob says:

    Davis L, these charts are specific to a particular date and time within a 4 hour window and what may be expected to be experienced at that time. In this case I am looking for how individuals may feel election night. If there is no clear winner on Nov 6 or 7 then it would certainly be necessary to look at possibly new charts for these individuals as the charts in use have a life of about 2 weeks from their inception before another begins and then use transits for the date results were expected to be determined to progress them by.

  131. Bob says:

    Francine, this yields another negative chart for election night. I progressed the charts to 10 pm, MST, on election night. That makes it 3 negative, 1 positive, so far.

  132. alex says:

    November 6th to November 26th, 2012 – Mercury

    Shadow: 18 Scorpio, October 19th
    Retro Station: 4 Sagittarius, November 6
    Direct Station: 18 Scorpio, November 26th
    Release: 4 Sagittarius, December 15th

  133. Bob says:

    Lorrie, I had to go back and check this chart as the others were all negative. I FOUND THAT I HAD MADE A MISTAKE. Redoing the charts It comes out as another negative making the score 4 negatives in 4 charts so far.

  134. Bob says:

    BULLETIN!

    I had to check the chart Lorrie submitted and found that I had made a mistake. Redoing the charts yielded yet another negative making the count 4 negatives in 4 cases.

  135. Diane L says:

    Great stuff, Bob! I have no birth times for the two most conservative family members but did note they have tVenus conj their Neptunes on Nov 6 whilst Venus will conjoin my Moon on Nov 9. *grin*

  136. Azizi says:

    As a reminder, the astrology cited above for Julian Castro is also for his twin brother Joaquin Castro, “a candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives from Texas, introduced twin brother and San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro as the keynote speaker of the Democratic National Convention on Tuesday.”
    (I’m quoting this information from a Fox News website so I won’t link to it.)

    It would be interesting to find out which twin was born first.* If Joaquin wins his campaign, he actually will have more political power than his brother Julian.

    *I’m interested in twins in part because I’m a twin, born 20 minutes before my sister who passed away at age 45.

    As a bit of trivia, the Nigerian ethnic group Yorubas have a very high rate of twins per population and that group revere twins. In that ethnic group, regardless of other names given to them, the first born twin is named “Taiwo” and the second born twin is named “Kehinde”.

    I’ve read that in that culture the first born twin was said to be the strongest personality as he or she pushed out the first born twin so that person could “taste the world” first (to make sure all was well before the second born twin was born?) Also, the mother of twins is greatly revered in the Yoruba culture and in some other traditions African cultures.

    I recall my mother and my twin & I going to at least one “mother of twin” event in the 1950s and being asked which twin was the “leader” and which was the “follower”. I suppose you can guess what the answer was… But it seems to me that it would have been much better for my twin and me and also for other twins if we were raised and if they were/are raised not to have an expectation that one twin would be more assertive than the other one.

  137. Bob says:

    Hi Patty, sorry that I can’t do anything without a birth time as the technique requires me to do the nearest solar or demi-solar return before the day to be looked at and then use the Moon from that return to do a lunar or demi-lunar return before the day and finally progress that return to the day and time desired.

  138. alex says:

    Nov 26th SU 04 Sagittarius – Election ME 04 Sagittarius

    Election Mars 22 Sagittarius

    15 degree aspect – (24th harmonic series 15,75.105.165 degrees)

    http://www.enotes.com/topic/Astrological_aspect

    Mars Nov 26th @07 Capricorn
    ————

    Nov 26th Mercury SD – Juno 21 Sagittarius
    Election Mars 22 Sagittarius

    Nov 26th Hygeia 28 Aquarius
    opposite
    Hekate 28 Leo

  139. Bob says:

    With the 2 charts I had before this makes 6 negatives in 6 charts for likely Republican voters on election night. I do not have any charts yet for the Eastern time zone in the U.S.

  140. alex says:

    Clarify:
    Nov 26th Mercury goes SD @ 18 Scorpio

    Nov 26th Juno @21 Sagittarius
    Election Mars @22 Sagittarius
    Election Midpoint Nemesis/Hildalgo @22 Sagittarius

  141. Nina says:

    I’ve researched the Mormon baptism ceremony, since it sounded so confusing. Turns out it’s the one big ceremony that teen Mormons, especially teenage girls, can participate in. They come to a big temple and are ritually prepared, wear a special ‘pure’ garment, and then go through a full baptism ritual in honor of a virtuous dead person. The dead person’s spirit is then assumed to have the option to choose Mormonism.

    They don’t actually baptize the dead, they are ‘baptized for the dead’. The temple has a deep trough that the initiate is supposed to submerge totally in, even to the ends of their hair. It’s a sign of a teen’s commitment to the religion to perform in a baptism ceremony.

    The teenage girl focus probably explains why Ann Frank has been chosen most often. Glamour, martyrdom, and all that. I suspect Helen Keller has had several dozen baptisms.

  142. Nina says:

    September 16, 1974.

  143. Davis L says:

    Ditto!

  144. alex says:

    thank you for accuracy/info on Mormon rituals;

    conjecture? potency blessing?

    teenage virgin girls/ virgin boys get baptized, having selected a certain virtuous dead soul, to focus/steadfast devote their baptism to so that the Mormon teenage virgin creates an option to allow/invite that virtuous soul to have a vehicle/conveyance for a Mormon birth/delivery;

    am I over stating it? get ready get ready because here they come….. Mormon’s & reincarnation;

    that’s planning ahead on a sure thing the virtuous soul) primed by baptism for rebirth into a new theology-Mormonism;

    that’s a novel: register the idea with Writer’s Association of America 5 years for $25.00

  145. Bob says:

    I should explain that for an planet or midpoint to be considered in the progressed lunar return it must be within 2° of an angle of the progressed chart. These are very small orbs and in all cases except one so far all have been closer to 1° than to 2°.

  146. Bob says:

    Diane, with Venus conjunct Neptune maybe you could get them to fall deliriously in love with President Obama and the Democratic Party!

  147. Diane L says:

    Highly unlikely! Though they keep trying to make me see the error of my ways. LOL

  148. Francime says:

    I wonder if it might be better to check the day after election. Some people go to bed thinking their candiidate won only to wake up and find a different story.

  149. Bob says:

    The only place in the U.S. where you can legally bet on the election using real money. As of yesterday they had President Obama at 52 against 47 for Romney. In the winner take all it was 68 to 32 for the President.

    http://tippie.uiowa.edu/iem/markets/pres12.html

    Joyce E. Berg, Forrest D. Nelson and Thomas A. Rietz
    International Journal of Forecasting
    Volume 24, Issue 2, April-June 2008, Pages 283-298

    Abstract
    “Prediction markets” are designed specifically to forecast events such as elections. Though election prediction markets have been being conducted for almost twenty years, to date nearly all of the evidence on efficiency compares election eve forecasts with final pre-election polls and actual outcomes. Here, we present evidence that prediction markets outperform polls for longer horizons. We gather national polls for the 1988 through 2004 U.S. Presidential elections and ask whether either the poll or a contemporaneous Iowa Electronic Markets vote-share market prediction is closer to the eventual outcome for the two-major-party vote split. We compare market predictions to 964 polls over the five Presidential elections since 1988. The market is closer to the eventual outcome 74% of the time. Further, the market significantly outperforms the polls in every election when forecasting more than 100 days in advance.

  150. catsandmusic says:

    Azizi: loved your comment. I am a mother of twins and had heard the anecdote about the second twin being more dominant. In our family, the way it got applied was the joke that if I had waited for firstborn to get moving I would still be pregnant, as she has rarely been on time for anything in her life and relied on her sister who has strong navigational skills to get them everywhere as children and even now sometimes as adults. But as for overall dominance, they have Leo asc, so that would be a battle of the Divas which I would not want to be around for!

  151. Bob says:

    A money line, used in baseball and hockey, takes the place of a point spread. Money line betting is simply wagering on the contest based on a given price rather than a point spread. The team wagered on has to win the game outright, regardless of the score. The minus sign (e.g.-130) always indicates the favorite and the amount you must bet to win $100. The line without the minus sign (e.g.120) always indicates the underdog and the amount you win for every $100 bet. Using this example, therefore, you would bet $130 to win $100 on the favorite, while for the underdog you would bet $100 to win $120.

    http://mail.thespread.com/blog/090612-2012-us-presidential-election-winning-party-updated-odds

    Thursday, 06 September 2012 06:50

    Who will be the winning party at the 2012 U.S. presidential election? The Democratic Party remains favored at –205 on the money line, while the Republican Party remains the underdog at +165 on the money line.
    Just over a month ago when oddsmakers updated the odds, current United States President Barack Obama was favored at –155 on the money line over Mitt Romney, who was +145. The winner will of course be determined by who receives the Majoirty Electoral Votes in the U.S. presidential election of 2012.

  152. Bob says:

    http://www.smartmoney.com/invest/strategies/romney-vs-obama-the-oddsmakers-weigh-in-1344372024237/

    Note: This was as of Aug 7, 2012.

    Do you think you know who’ll win? The U.K. bookies now heavily favor Obama: He’s quoted at 2/5, compared with 15/8 for Romney. Put another way, they currently give Obama a roughly 70% chance of winning, against 35% for Romney. (Those odds have moved sharply towards Obama in recent weeks, following Romney’s missteps, although the polls in the U.S. don’t reflect that.)

  153. Prabhata says:

    Bob, I will give you the birth data of someone who’s very much GOP connected. He was appointed to an office by a GOP administration and would be very much unhappy if Romney lost.

    March 8 1951, 7:00 PM (he gave me the time. Being an hour exact makes it likely that the time is only close). Berkeley CA

  154. Bob says:

    It is easy to eyeball the angles for the next 24 hour period as the MC progresses at the same rate as the transiting Moon has moved (about 13° in 24 hours). In all of the charts checked so far the 7th looks negative also.

  155. Bob says:

    Francime, I just noticed that I had spelled your name wrong. I apologize. My eyes are weary (along with the rest of my 7+ decades old body).

  156. Bob says:

    Prabhata, Was he born in Berkeley? Where does he live now?

  157. Prabhata says:

    You can use Sacramento CA as place of residence.

  158. pisca says:

    I would love to hear more about twins’ charts….
    Which of the Castro twins is older was abuzz in San Antonio at one time but (lol) my contact there can’t remember. She will research it.
    Julian Castro is a very popular mayor and energizes the people there.
    Brother Joaquin is running for the seat held by Henry B. Gonzales and it is very likely that he will win that seat. Asked what is the difference between them, Joaquin is a bachelor!
    They look so much alike that Julian remarked that when Joaquin goes to the U.S Congress, Secret Service will have to provide service for him too because they can’t tell them apart.

  159. Prabhata says:

    About the Berkeley question. That’s where they lived when he was born. He did not give me the name of the hospital where he was born.

  160. Bob says:

    7 come 11! That makes 7 out of 7 negatives. But in this case it is the midpoint of natal or progressed Saturn and Pluto instead of a planet making the contact with the MC of the chart. It seems that the right time of birth is about 4 to 9 minutes before 7 pm.

  161. Azizi says:

    Thanks for sharing that information, catsandmusic. I didn’t know that view that the second born twin was thought to be the most dominant was also a belief in the USA (I’m assuming that you live in that nation as I do.)

    For what it’s worth, I’ve been told that my ascendant is 19 Virgo (11:27 PM 12/16/47 Atlantic City, NJ.) Given that my fraternal twin sister was born 20 minutes after me, what does that make her ascendant? I’m not an astrologer and I’ve always wondered what were the astrological reasons were why we were so different. I apologize if such a request isn’t appropriate for this blog.

  162. Prabhata says:

    He was not looking at his birth certificate when he shared the information. I think he gave me a time that was close to the time of birth.

  163. Bob says:

    Azizi, your sister’s Asc is 23°49′ Virgo.

  164. alex says:

    best case scenario wost case scenario:

    President Obama is re-elected:

    Dems retake House Representative Majority
    Dems elect new Speaker of the House ( John Boehner loses his place in line for succession to the presidency )

    but Ryan still represents his WI district and still on the budget committee though no longer the chair of the budget committee

    Dems keep majority in Senate
    but Mitch McConnell still GOP minority leader
    ( there are too many unforeseen factors and procedural factors I’m not familiar with so leave it there )

    worst case:

    Pres. Obama re-elected
    House still has GOP majority
    Senate Dems lose majority to GOP and Mitch McConnell becomes Senate Majority leader

  165. Jackson says:

    Could be Alta Bates. That’s where I was born. (I reside in Sacramento, too, and I was born in March.)

  166. Patty says:

    I’m also a mother of Twin Sons.
    In Japan ‘They honor the second born twin…for allowing his brother/sister to go first’.
    I’m Taurus/Scorpio Rising and sons Aquarius/Leo Rising. It has not been easy for me.

  167. Prabhata says:

    The person did not live in Sacramento when he was born. He might have been born in an Oakland hospital or San Francisco, since the mother worked in SF. Sacramento is where he resides now.

  168. Francine says:

    OMG, you didn’t spell it wrong, I did, lololol!

  169. Prabhata says:

    Is Alta Bates is a Berkeley hospital? Maybe. The family lived in Berkeley when he was born.

  170. Teresa Hill says:

    Nancy,
    Given the current polling data showing such a big lead for Obama, Nate Silver’s 80% change he believes Obama will win… I don’t think we’re being hopeful in saying it really, really seems like Obama winning is not the huge upsetting energy you see following the election.
    If it’s not the Presidential race, you think the Senate? The House?
    Is there anything else that comes to mind, if not the Presidential race? Because I really don’t think that’s going to be it.
    Mitt seems to have given up. He took most of last week off, supposedly for debate prep. Which is a joke, given how far away the debates.
    Seems soon, people will move into damage-control mode, if they haven’t already, distancing themselves from Romney and trying to save themselves and their own power bases. (Republicans were all out for themselves at the Republican convention. It’s only going to get worse.)
    They’ve spent a fortune, and the negative ads aren’t working. I’d have to think his money guys see that now and have to be rethinking what they do from here on out. I doubt they ever envisioned a world where their money didn’t buy them all the power they wanted.
    So, just wondering what your thoughts are right now.
    Debates coming. We know Romney will only look worse in the debates. In fact, maybe that’s his really bad October. He has no answers now. He won’t have any then.

  171. angellight says:

    Teresa Hill: I never underestimate devils. Romney & Ryan have not given up. I expect more lies, slander, mud and the kitchen sink. We have to be ready for the onslaught.

  172. Teresa Hill says:

    They’re pulling ads from a number of swing states, leaving them a very narrow, improbably path to victory.

    If you’re no longer advertising in a swing state, your internal polling shows you doing so badly, you’ve given up on contesting that state.

    They’ll move into damage control soon, if they haven’t already. Maybe that’s what last week’s time off was about. Retooling to damage control.

    I’m not saying we ease off anything we’re doing to help Obama win. Just saying, I think it’s reasonable to speculate about what might be happening after the election if the turmoil isn’t about Obama/Romney.

  173. Bob says:

    8 straight!

    I just added a guy I think will be in Dallas, TX election night. Another negative chart. Fella by the name of Bush.

  174. pisca says:

    GOOD news! Thank you for doing this.
    I heard that Michele Bachman is losing steam and (hope) could lose her seat after all. Could you look at her chart? Starlight News June 21, 2011 “Bachman On the Marquee”

  175. Jackson says:

    Yes. Now called Summit Alta Bates, it’s on the border of Berkeley and Oakland, near the Claremont Hotel. There are hospitals in Oakland too (Merritt, Kaiser, etc), but my guess would be Alta Bates, as it’s the only one I know of in Berkeley proper.

  176. Lune Prière says:

    Oh, I would so like to see a Democrat win that seat!

  177. starlight says:

    One of the scenarios I proposed a while back was that Obama might be an obvious winner going into the election, but the real tension was in the Congress, with possibly the Senate hanging in the balance for a week or more.

    While Obama is still under a strong Mars/Sun progression for several months, Romney’s converse Sun/converse Mars conjunction peaked in late August. Energy can dissipate quickly when these kinds of progressions begin to wane.

    I will do something on the debates soon, but basically Obama, from what I can tell, will win two, and the third will be a tie (no one shines). I think Ryan will look better than Biden though. Biden has some difficult planets during the time of his debate, but I don’t think it matters much. More on this later.

  178. Lorrie U says:

    Believe me, if Romney & Ryan win, they will have a big effect on your personal life!!!

  179. Lorrie U says:

    I completely agree, Teresa. It is completely against Universal Law to interfere with another’s soul purpose! I am abhorred by the Mormon practice of retroactively converting souls. Talk about interference without permission! Romney seems quite comfortable with the retroactive thing. The freezing thing is more about protection from those whom I consider dangerous to my life through their policies and lack of principles and where they would take this country.

  180. Lorrie U says:

    YAY!!!! Keep those negatives coming!!!

  181. Lorrie U says:

    Has anyone looked at Sheldon Adelson’s chart? Or Karl Rove’s? And what about good old Rush Limbaugh? He might actually have a strong physical reaction from all the stress.

  182. Lorrie U says:

    Today on MSNBC, the consensus of the panel was that it was all going to come down to OH and VA. Also, whoever is leading at the end of Sept. has historically always won the election because the +-7% of undecideds usually go with the one who’s leading. Amazingly, early voting has already started!

  183. Lorrie U says:

    Even better news! Although I tend to think that those who are in the know politically already feel Romney will lose, it’s only the uninformed who listen to Fox News who will die of shock if they lose.

  184. Lorrie U says:

    Strong Enforcement Of Voter Protections Needed To Stop “Bullies At The Ballot Box”

    As the elections approach, strong enforcement of voter protections is needed to prevent attempts to block voters from casting their ballot, according to a report released today by voting rights groups Demos and Common Cause. The study, “Bullies at the Ballot Box: Protecting the Freedom to Vote from Wrongful Challenges and Intimidation” focuses on voter protection laws in10 states where elections are expected to be close, or where large challenger operations are expected or have taken place during recent elections.

    True the Vote and other Tea Party-affiliated groups are reportedly recruiting 1 million volunteers to object to the qualifications of voters in targeted communities on and before Election Day, according to the study. These volunteers are being rallied to block, in their own words, the “illegal alien vote” and “the food stamp army.” Their stated goal is to make the experience of voting “like driving and seeing the police behind you.”

    http://www.commoncause.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&b=4773613&ct=12179589

  185. Lorrie U says:

    Ha, ha, ha, ha,ha…

    Rush Limbaugh Claims Obama is Using Facts and Polls to Suppress the Republican Vote
    http://www.politicususa.com/rush-limbaugh-claims-obama-facts-polls-suppress-republican-vote.html

  186. Teresa Hill says:

    Yes, I remember you saying it might well be about the House and/or the Senate.

  187. Teresa Hill says:

    Obama’s up by 9 in Ohio right now.

  188. Lorrie U says:

    Now all the repubs are boycotting the life-long republican for hugging Obama. What’s with the stupid food thing? I have never seen such immature, ridiculous behavior in my life! The world is falling apart, the economy is in the ditch, and these people get their shorts in a twist because a republican hugged Obama???

  189. Barbara Delaney says:

    Public Policy Polling announced that in a recent poll six percent of Ohioans, and 15 percent of Ohio Republicans, think Mitt Romney “deserves more credit” for the killing of Osama bin Laden than Barack Obama. Talk about deluding yourselves!

    They must all be fans of the White Queen. Remember when she said “Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”

    I live in Ohio and I’m horrified by this.

  190. alex says:

    9/11 The Bush White House
    Deafness Before the 9/11 Storm – LINK
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html?_r=1

    http://www.astro-counseling.com/html/millennium_changes.html

    The last Solar Eclipse of the 20th Century:

    August 11, 1999 Fixed Grand Cross (Taurus,Leo,Scorpio,Aquarius)

    Two celestial events of unprecedented magnitude herald the passageway to the 21st century: The Great August 11, 1999 Total Solar Eclipse and the Grand Planetary Alignment of early May of 2000.

  191. NEOBuckeye says:

    Romney so far is still campaigning here in Ohio. It probably helps that Kasich is governor here, although I don’t think they necessarily get along all that well. If Kasich thinks Romney is going to lose, he will start distancing himself from him to avoid weakening his re-election chances vs. the Dems in 2014.

  192. NEOBuckeye says:

    You too, huh Barbara?

  193. alex says:

    BarbK,

    I agree with Nancy:
    Congress will likely be the element that hangs in the balance Nov 6th – Nov 26th; the Nov 26th chart noon Mercury SD @18 Scorpio chart DC has 18 Aquarius ASC cnj Obama N/ASC & noon MC@05 Sagittarius cnj ( Election Mercury = THE VOTE @04 Sagittarius cnj Nov 26th Sun @04 Sagittarius) …. it’s a good lens for the conditions of Congress, the presidency and the business of the nation.

    As far as using familiar family charts in synastry with political charts: my family has strong associations with this chart – – so this chart is the one I’ll use awhile for practice of various analysis methods.

    I have found from past elections 1999 to present that once the major aspects/issues are narrated and understood that the minor aspects help me locate actions/triggers/objective events in political charts. I concentrate on a Kepler aspect range the 24 harmonic series, 15 degrees, 75 degrees, 105 degrees and 165 degrees as they are symbolic for hard / harshest (motivators winner takes all) in political behavior: intense malice payback, keeping score, exhibiting obsessive compulsion at various levels/degrees.

    Starting with QD 165 degrees then reducing/concentrating toward the 15th degree. QD suggests a burning point of focus, often a place of extreme concern and effort in the life, even to the point of upheaval, disruption, and obsessive mania.

    Key concept for 15th degree aspect: ‘it will get done’ as representing aspect trigger of objective events.

    Election Mars 22 SG (Nov 6th mercury SRX chart) – aspect arc 15 degrees – to Nov 26th (Mercury SD chart) Mars 07 Capricorn in the 11th house – legislation/legislator’s 11th house of noon chart.

    Conjunction & Opposition Aspects:

    Nov 26th 11th house Nemesis @01CP cnj Mars @ 07CP cnj Pluto @08CP opposes chart 6th house Ceres @01CA (women’s issues) cnj Obama Natal Venus @01CA (what he values).

    Opposition axis: Hygeia (ACA) 28 AQ opposite Hekate 28 Leo, 1rst -7th house axis. Health care issue with Affordable Care Act are front and center in this chart.

    This axis forms Fixed T-square with Obama’s Natal MC @28SC.

    My recollection is that Cantor and the other GOP ‘leaders’ were menacing that they would cut the budget allocations for ACA if Obama wins the election.

    I find my families’ health care concerns in the Nov 26th chart analysis of aspects; and collectively WOMEN’s family life/death issues regarding ACA fundamental life saving, life extending provisions (pre-existing, life time limits, etc) are in the balance.

    ————-

    24th-harmonic aspects

    These aspects are based on the division of the circle of the zodiac by twenty-four. Some Hamburg School astrologers consider multiples of the quattuorvigintile, including the squile, squine, and quindecile, aspects.
    Quattuorvigintile

    The quattuorvigintile is an angle of 15°, one-24th of the zodiac circle.
    Squile

    The squile is an angle of 75°, 5/24 of the zodiac circle or 2.5 signs, considered a hybrid between a square and a sextile. Kepler described as causing malice, treachery, passion or grief; relentless pursuit, potent personal influence.Astrological influence of squile
    Squine

    The squine is an angle of 105°, 7/24 of the zodiac circle, considered a hybrid between a square and a trine.
    Quindecile

    The quindecile (also known as the johndro or contraquindecile) is an angle of 165°. It is supposed to be associated with an unrelenting headstrong determination, with disruption and upheaval.[10] Tyl’s usage of the 165 degree aspect reflects earlier work of Lorne Edward Johndro. At http://www.astrologycom.com, one finds the name “Johndro” to describe the 165 degree aspect, and it is also used in the Intrepid astrology software program, with the glyph (symbol) “J”. According to Noel Tyl, the quindecile, with rulership routings to be respected as well, suggests a burning point of focus, often a place of extreme concern and effort in the life, even to the point of upheaval, disruption, and obsessive mania. Quindecile Aspect

  194. Bob says:

    I just received this link last night. It is to a movie length video (about 2 hours and 20 minutes) done completely by engineers, scientists, physicists, psychologists, psychiatrists, other professionals, and loved ones of some of the WTC attack victims. If you can’t watch it now, please download it and watch it when you can. It has been out for about a year but has received a boost in exposure because of a recent airing on PBS.

    After watching it I worked on some charts with relevance to the attack and April 20, 2014.

    I think the Grand square of April 20, 2014 which impacts the Sibly chart for the United States so hard, or the days around that date, may have to do with revelations about 9-11. If so the remaining Uranus squares to Pluto (April 21, 2014, Dec 15, 2014, and Mar 16, 2015) all of which impact the Sibly chart may have to do with an internal fight for the life of this country.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tTMMNTisBM&feature=player_embedded

  195. Bob says:

    Lorrie, I looked at Rove’s progressed lunar using Austin, TX, for location as that is the last place I read that he lived and if he still does on election day will possibly be there.

    The birth chart I used is my rectification based on events in his life. It yielded another negative but I did not mention it because of using a rectified chart and not being sure of where he may be.

  196. alex says:

    FYI:

    http://www.alternet.org/story/76572/how_karl_rove_and_torture_influenced_the_9_11_report

    A 9/11 commission chief answers to allegations that he let Karl Rove influence the probe investigating the Sept. 11 attacks.

  197. Bob says:

    The Grand Square will also hit the Sun of the 113th Congress if they are sworn in on Jan 3, 2013.

  198. angellight says:

    “So now we know how Mitt plans to triangulate, by self-strangulation of course. After months telling cons he’d abolish Obamacare he tells David Gregory he likes key parts. And says he’s not cutting rich folks taxes after all.

    This guy isn’t just wearing flip-flops, he has wrapped them around his own neck!”

    Read full post at http://craigcrawford.com

    And, Craig Crawford is a Republican

  199. angellight says:

    Lorrie U: Rush delusion is really “funny” !! That man is sick.

  200. Sharon says:

    I saw the full-length version of that film in a longer version about a year ago. It’s very convincing. The other thing that makes me believe the Bush administration was complicit is that just a few days before it happened, the prime-time news showed a picture of Bin Laden in his robes and turbine, proclaiming him a serious terrorist that the U.S. was investigating. It was a news blurb that got my attention at the time and then 2-3 days later, 911 happened. Guess what my first thought was? It was probably Osama Bin Laden!!! Why? Because someone wanted me to think that—they planted that news item very likely. If Roosevelt knew or suspected about the Pearl Harbor attack and let it happen, then, possibly, someone else wanted a reason to got to war in the Mideast. I’ve always dismissed the conspiracy theories on this but they are pervasive.

  201. Sharon says:

    turbin LOL

  202. clymela says:

    I see that e already are gifted with a new article however I just now finished watching the WTO collapse film that you linked us to (whoo! I really did go to school just overlook the sentence structure there. I am shocked and devastated by what is presented there. I have always accepted that the destruction was an inside job-the story of the supposed pilots training proved to my intuition that the story we were given was make-believe but watching and listening to these scientists has rather flattened me-what the hell are we dealing with here-and what else will show up as we go along-this is in my heart today. Well thank you and I guess I will attempt to prepare for the rest.

  203. barbk says:

    alex and all commenters on twin stories. .
    I’ve been having computer problems and not been able to check in here until now. Will take some time later and read it all when I’m not under the gun It sure looks very interesting!

  204. Elizabeth says:

    Another one I would love to see out of congress!

    http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/06/26/506456/eric-cantor-poll/

  205. Barbara Delaney says:

    I’m tucked in way down in the southwest corner, literally ten minutes across the ferry to Kentucky and ten minutes on Route 50 to Indiana. Although it’s a very red part of the state there is a conspicuous lack of enthusiam for Mittens even here. Four years ago on this date there were an abundance of yard signs, bumper stickers, and other McCain campaign paraphenalia to be seen. This year the pro-Romney/Ryan signs are thin on the ground. After Romney’s disgraceful comments on the deaths in Libya I fully expect some people with his signs in their yards will be removing them under cover of darkness tonight.

    If I may ask, what part of the state do you reside in?

  206. clymela says:

    Paul Ryan was just on the television talking about his values. I have never,never witnessed such an empty suit in all of politics. There have been those I opposed such as Richard Nixon but I always knew that he had paid his dues,he was a man. This Ryan guy is all fake, all fake-amazing really if he wasn’t deep into causing so much trouble for people who have never seen him.

  207. Diane L says:

    Did you catch that he implied it was somehow “un-american” to be pro-choice? That would be 52% of the population as of Aug 5 according to Rassmusen Reports.

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/paul-ryan-obama-cant-say-were-in-this-together-because-hes-pro-choice.php?ref=fpb