Health Care Reform

The long, drawn out war over health care that we were subjected to before the passage of the Affordable Care Act has been resurrected. One might think we were having a collective relapse of the flu: our fever has spiked, our irritability has increased, and misery abounds. Unfortunately, there is no treatment for this pre-existing condition.

Early last week, the Supreme Court spent three days tackling the constitutionality of the new Health Care law. Or at least that is what we were told. In reality, it was yet another proxy war in the right-wing’s attempt to discredit and ultimately unseat our first African American president, as well as retrieve their vision of a White Christian nation imbued with a screechingly triumphal self-absorption.  Once again, a policy that was created by and largely supported by Republicans for years – in this case the individual mandate – morphed into a dire, almost treasonous threat to the future of America when espoused by Barrack Obama. With characteristic shamelessness, the Republicans tossed integrity to the wind and twisted both fact and rationality to align with a power-hungry political agenda.

The pundits, of course, are like rabid, hungry wolves circling this story. With gleeful abandon, they discuss how President Obama’s most significant legislative victory will be declared unconstitutional and torn asunder, rendering him weak and vulnerable in the fall campaign. They examine every utterance of the justices to add fuel to their hyperbolic bonfire.

The astrological indicators on this issue, however, tell a different tale. At the end of March, the president was just coming out of a progression of his Moon quincunx natal Pluto, activating his natal Moon/Pluto square, and bringing him the subjective experience of an intense struggle against potent and intractable foes. In addition, the last six days of March brought a Uranus/Mars quincunx which added to the general level of agitation and anger, thus contributing to the irritable national mood around the resurrected health care debate.

If we look at the chart for the Affordable Care Act, things become even more interesting. This legislation was signed into law on March 23, 2010, at 11:55 AM. In it, we find a grand cross that also falls on the horizon line of the chart. This describes legislation that was profoundly transformative (Pluto) but, at the same time, conscientiously kept within the tight the restrictive bounds (Saturn) of what was possible, as well as struggling to maintain the delicate balance of including the people’s needs (the Moon) and the president’s objectives (the Sun).

In progressing the chart, we find that the progressed health Care Sun (5Aries) has moved to an exact square with natal Pluto (5Capricorn21) from September 2011 through most of September 2012. This indicates the pitched battle for survival that this law is now undergoing.  Moreover, the huge power struggle described by the Sun/Pluto square has been activated by transiting Uranus (5Aries) conjunct progressed Sun and square natal Pluto from March 21 through April 8, and was further triggered by transiting Mars (5Virgo) trine natal Pluto during the days of the Supreme Court hearings. Furthermore, the progressed health care Moon (5Leo) will be quincunx natal Pluto from April 7 through May 4, suggesting that the shrill intensity of the debate will continue for the next month.

A look at the planets during the end of June suggests that the majority Supreme Court opinion that will emerge from this beleaguered process is likely to be largely in the president’s favor. Certainly, the period from June 20 through early June 26, during which transiting Jupiter will be conjunct Obama’s Moon (3Gemini21), looks extremely uplifting and successful for him. Friday, June 22, should the decision come on that day, is particularly positive with the transiting Sun conjunct the president’s Venus (1Cancer47), just as his progressed Sun culminates in its square to that point. If the opinion comes in the final few days of the month, there is still nothing in President Obama’s chart to point to an upset.

Rather significantly, the progressed Health Care Sun (5Aries) will continue to be square Health Care Pluto (5Capricorn21) through September 2012, and transiting Uranus will return to square Health Care Pluto and conjunct progressed Health Care Sun during all of October and again from mid-December 2012 through January 2013. This prolongation of the power struggle inherent in the health care law suggests two things. The first is that the assault on this legislation will continue to be fiercely waged during the 2012 election campaign. The second is that the Supreme Court, in a game of political hot potato, may throw the law back to Congress for further refinement on at least a few points. The Uranus station on Health Care Pluto in December 2012 and January 2013 indicates that the health care battle may continue to be waged in the post-election Congress. Given the planetary lineup in December (to be discussed fully at a later date), this could develop into a huge confrontation.


  1. So it looks like it will be a Health Care Law to debate about next year. I sort of wondered if the Supreme Court would toss it back to Congress to fix and avoid an Election Year issue.

  2. will says:

    Starlight, I so concur with your take – and your astrological pointers appear perfectly squared to the dynamics at hand. Your final paragraph seems to me the most likely scenario. Nonetheless, the match has been set to the kindling on this issue – and there is no turning back from a complete transformation of healthcare and its timely and affordable accessibility to our citizenry.

    On another note: Anne F—–g Coulter on ABC’s This Week!!! WTF is wrong with the execs at ABC??? How could they put that screaming hole on network television on Sunday morning? It must be ratings weeks – maybe to bring lots and lots of controversy. Needless to say, I threw up a little bit in the back of my mouth when I saw her wicked boney ass on the program.

  3. starlight says:

    I think it will be an election year issue one way or another. Then Congress will fight over the final details, I think, in December and maybe January. I think it will be resolved by February one way or another. Maybe it will be an election year issue because it will depend on who gets elected as to how it unfolds in Congress. But on the whole, Obama seems happy enough with the results in late June.

  4. starlight says:

    The sad thing is that we humans adapt to even the worst new situations. Our cultural norms have so deteriorated in the past few years that the vileness of the right-wing screamers has become mainstream.

  5. Jerry says:

    Hi Nancy,

    Regarding your feelings about Jeff Sessions, no one is disputing his personal agenda. Just simply saying that if the findings prove to have any merit, the health care bill may be stopped dead in its tracks. I don’t see anything sancrosanct about this push towards health care reform if the US government can’t fund it.

    Leaving that aside for the moment; I think all the facts have to be weighed from a non-political perspective. It’s too easy to rush to judgement and see this exclusively as a political vendetta against Democratic policies in an election year. The health care bill is a noble idea but there are inherent flaws in the proposals as well….

    Top 10 Pros & Cons

    Are the March 2010 Federal Health Care Reform Laws Good For America?

    In any event, I like Lynn Hayes astrological take on this perplexing dilemma, which runs parallel to my views. In a 2010 article entitled American Healthcare: Business As Usual; she makes the following observation……

    “…..The (Sibley) chart for the United States includes a challenging square from Pluto to Chiron suggests a predisposition in the country to health challenges. But Pluto in the second house, creating an obsession (Pluto) with money (second house) means that everything is tied to the need for wealth. As long as lobbies run the healthcare industry in the US, the healthcare system will suffer.

    With Pluto traveling through Capricorn, the sign of corporations and other societal institutions, transformation is possible. But first there needs to be a breakdown phase. Just as in our individual lives, if the breakdown phase cannot occur with conscious intention, the breakdown will be imposed on us from the outside so that the system can be rebuilt with integrity and balance.”

  6. starlight says:

    This cartoon is what I was talking about in the second paragraph:

  7. Elizabeth says:


    Thank you so much! This was so informative and encouraging.


    ..When I saw her on the show this morning, I didn’t even wait to hear what vile thing she would have to say.. I turned it off immediately!

  8. Jerry says:

    Typo: Read instead: “sacrosanct”

  9. Jerry says:

    Ray Merriman in his latest April 2nd Market Week report contributes some insightful comments on the status of the health care bill….

    “…..Welcome to Uranus square Pluto : the preview. You have 3 months to get fully prepared for the likes of something totally wild and bizarre – as if you haven’t seen enough already since the Cardinal Climax began in 2008. This is the last three years of this cosmic drama and it ends with this most potent of all aspects. It is like the collective version of the “Twilight Zone” on steroids, or a remake of Monty Python and the Holy Grail, shape-shifting into a Fish called Wanda. Oh yes… Neptune is in Pisces now as well (sign of the fish). But that might save us all.

    Short-Term Geocosmics :

    And you know what? It’s not just the markets going crazy, for after all the markets are little more than a reflection of the trends and whims of society and politics. We are not only in the trickster Mercury’s retrograde cycle. And we are not only just ending that 5-day period of the “Sun’s translation to Uranus-Pluto square”, where nothing goes as expected, let alone makes any sensible relationship to anything else in the world. But it was – and still is – also Mars retrograde (January 23-April 14).

    Mars retrograde is a signature that says, “That which has recently been started is suddenly prone to be aborted”. Coming into last week, everyone (it seemed) thought that the Supreme Court would uphold “Obamacare”, the USA’s version of a universal health insurance program that was passed in March 2010. But after a couple days of argument, it became clear that this “Affordable Health Care” Act may not comply with USA commerce law. It may be sent back to Congress for a re-write, as parts – or all of it – may have been to be done all over again. This would be very consistent with all three of these signatures, but especially Mars retrograde in Virgo, the sign of health care.

    We won’t know the decision of the Supremes until late June, which is just perfect since that is when the Uranus-Pluto waxing square makes its first of seven exact hits (June 24, within hours of Jupiter square Neptune, Saturn and Venus both turning stationary direct). It promises to be a tumultuous period with immense reaction (and over-reaction), just like the emotional rawness experienced last week in so many other aspects of American (and European) life (i.e. racial tensions related to the killing of a Black teenage boy in Florida, riots and strikes and property damage in Spain due the new austerity measures related to the ongoing debt crisis which is also associated with Uranus and Pluto).”

  10. Lune Prière says:

    Thanks Nancy. I am deeply interested in this subject.

    Speaking of cartoons, here’s one on the issue by my home town cartoonist. About says it all.

  11. mooncookie0829 says:

    Hi, new here.

  12. mooncookie0829 says:

    Hi, was reading your comment. I know nothing about astrology. But do you see a scenario where the SC upholds the entire law trigger outrage from the TeaPublicans and a rush by the “voted out” house repubs to try and repeal the law in the lamb duck session?

  13. karen says:

    “I threw up a little in the back of my mouth.” I love beginning the day with a good laugh. Thanks, Will! Would love to farm work that girl (Coulter) to the bone. Maybe then she’d be too tired to cause trouble. Then, too, she needs to sweat out all that poison.

    Yes “shameless” they are. I’m quite sure the Extreme (not necessarily the Supreme) will continue to create the very thing they rally against. I would love it if an interviewer asked one/any of the candidates what they mean by “freedom.”

  14. Bob says:

    The Republican position on the health care law has already caused a significant shift of registered female voters in swing states in favor of President Obama.

    Nancy, Your time for the signing of the bill is correct. Can you delete or edit my posts in the last thread so that wrong information is not contained on your blog.

    Thank you.

  15. Jerry says:

    Hi Nancy,

    To put a personal touch to this, I think if one learns to see the hidden humor in these sort of things, perhaps one needn’t take it too seriously. I’m currently in the land of cultural peculiarities, where one learns to adapt or face the alternative of driving oneself into frustrated distraction. The country I’m talking about of course is India (I live here 6 months out of the year). The new film “The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel” encapsules it all quite well. A 3 minute theatrical trailer gives a sense of what it’s all about. I hope this isn’t too far off the norm. It’s worth viewing and appropriate to the subject matter of seeing the absurdity and humor in the most unexpected things…..

    The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel

  16. Bob says:

    There are 4 Supreme Court Justices who were born in the 1930’s. Scalia definitely sides with the right while Kennedy has been right of center more often than not I think. There is a good chance that they will retire during the nest Presidential term. That is another reason to do whatever we can to get President Obama re-elected as he could possibly be nominating 4 to fill positions on the Supreme Court.

    Kennedy is probably most likely to be the only associate to vote with the justices to the left of center.

    Birth Name Anthony McLeod Kennedy
    Born on 23 July 1936 at 23:28 (= 11:28 PM )
    Place Sacramento, California, 38n35, 121w30
    Timezone PST h8w (is standard time)
    Data source BC/BR in hand
    Rodden Rating AA
    Collector: Rodden

  17. Bob says:

    The possibility that the next president could see the appointment of 4 Supreme Court Justices is another reason that big business and those who lust for money will be pouring record setting amounts of money into Republican coffers this election year. But dollars don’t vote, people do, and with the various groups the Republicans have angered, the poor, the middle class, college students, their parents, and especially women of most demographics, President Obama’s re-election should not even be in doubt, but, it is. Or at least it has been until large numbers of women recently changed their perception of who they would vote for in this years’ election.

    From Helen Reddy’s song “I Am Woman”

    “I am woman, hear me roar
    In numbers too big to ignore
    And I know too much to go back an’ pretend
    ’cause I’ve heard it all before
    And I’ve been down there on the floor
    No one’s ever gonna keep me down again”

    Let’s all vote to give President Obama another 4 years to finish what he has started.

  18. Fe says:


    What an interesting aspect to bubble up for this country during the Uranus Pluto squares over the next few years. It truly will be the rise up for the rights of the individual versus the state and the ACA fight is a key battleground. If we do have affordable care, that will out of necessity help dissolve the profit-making motives of the insurance and pharmaceutical industries–both heavy linguists in DC.

    It’s about time.

  19. Fe says:

    Not linguists — lobbyists. Damn autocorrect on my iPod!

  20. loyalurker says:

    Has anyone looked at the stars for the big U.S./Iran pow-wow in the mid-April? I was reading Nolle’s monthly forecast for April and realized that the Mars Max direct motion date he mentions will be right on the day of that meeting on April 13/14.

    Nolle says:
    The skinny on Mars Max this month is that the lion won’t be lying down with the lamb in April – unless they’re engaged in a death-roll on the ground. You should know what to look for by now: a surfeit of fires, crashes, clashes and explosions; more than enough danger to go around. Be cautious; steer clear of conflict and other dangers as best you can. And if you can’t dodge ‘em, at least try your very best to come out safe and sound – and victorious, if that’s at all an option. Remember that this operates at all levels, from the personal to the geopolitical; and that Mars messes like military clashes and oil infrastructure accidents (like the Gulf of Mexico BP disaster, a 2010 Mars Max phenomenon) and attacks can play havoc with international markets and economies.

    If you can’t keep your guard up throughout April’s month-long Mars Max, at least be aware that the peak Mars vulnerabilities this month will tend to focus on the 14th. That’s the day of the Red Planet’s direct station (the point where the Mars retrograde comes to an end, and direct motion resumes). Mars spends the whole month within a degree of this point, so newsworthy mayhem can erupt not only on the 14th, but pretty much anytime this month . . . maybe especially around the 14th in particular, but also on or about the 4th (when Mars aligns with the Moon, as it did during the Mars Max of 2010 when the BP oil rig exploded in the Gulf of Mexico). Also keep a watchful eye out between the SuperMoon full moon on the 6th and the Pluto station on the 10th. (The latter is in effect all month, frankly.)

    U.S. to meet with Iran over its nuclear program. (interesting photo with this article of Hillary and the Saudis)

  21. starlight says:

    A possible scenario, certainly. but I think there will still be some details to iron out which is why the HCR chart still shows volatility through January 2013.

    The planets in late November and December suggest some kind of upheaval. We have been speculating here as to what that might be. The only stressful time I can find for PBO is about a week in December when the Congress could be threatening health care or perhaps the Christian Fascist Party could be rising up because because they think the anti-Christ has been reelected. Or some other unexpected cause of the day.

  22. starlight says:

    Indeed, it does say it all. Great cartoon, pathetic reality.

  23. starlight says:

    Welcome to the blog!!

  24. Noelle says:

    Thanks, Nancy. Very encouraging.

  25. starlight says:

    Great find!! I looked there and got a few other justices birth times too. Kennedy could well be the next retiree. He has the Saturn station next year opposite his Ascendant and the Uranus station this fall/winter opposite his 6th house Moon. Also Neptune sesquiquadrate Mars in 2013.

  26. starlight says:

    Mid-April to mid-May could be very problematic. Probably I will write about it next. Pr US Moon conjunct natal Saturn and tr Saturn square to PBO’s Saturn and US Mercury. Does not bode well for talks at that time.

  27. Diane L says:

    Another very helpful post, Starlight. That is an amazing Grand Cross in the ACA chart!

    I’m beginning to believe one the reasons we don’t have a decent single payer system is the general lack of trust in our gov’t & leaders. Dharmaruci of Astrotabletalk points the Sun-Saturn square as one reason why:

    America has never trusted its leaders – Sun square Saturn – and they have responded by being untrustworthy. That is why the US is so prone to conspiracy theories about dark government plots.

    Countries like Sweden, Denmark & Switzerland manage good healthcare with manageable debt levels in large part because their citizens trust their gov’ts to spend their tax monies wisely. Not the case here . . . *sigh*

  28. Francis says:

    I think Justice Gingsburg will retire next… It totally amazes me she has stayed on this long. I thought she was holding out for Obama to be elected. the woman is past retirement age, she has cancer and her husband of many decades died recently. The woman is a powerhouse of energy!

  29. Francis says:


  30. will says:

    Supreme Court Justice Kennedy continues to wax assh–ish.

    Justices Approve Strip-Searches for Any Offense
    Published: April 2, 2012
    WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Monday ruled by a 5-to-4 vote that officials may strip-search people arrested for any offense, however minor, before admitting them to jails even if the officials have no reason to suspect the presence of contraband.
    Follow@NYTNational for breaking news and headlines.
    Twitter List: Reporters and Editors
    • .
    Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, joined by the court’s conservative wing, wrote that courts are in no position to second-guess the judgments of correctional officials who must consider not only the possibility of smuggled weapons and drugs but also public health and information about gang affiliations.
    About 13 million people are admitted each year to the nation’s jails, Justice Kennedy wrote.
    Under Monday’s ruling, he wrote, “every detainee who will be admitted to the general population may be required to undergo a close visual inspection while undressed.”
    Justice Stephen G. Breyer, writing for the four dissenters, said strip-searches were “a serious affront to human dignity and to individual privacy” and should be used only when there was good reason to do so.

  31. kiwi says:

    another factor is voter turnout – the US has one of the lowest rates in the developed nations – 63% in 2008 was one of the highest in many years. See a graph here

  32. Virginia says:


    Loved the trailer, will definitely watch for the movie. Thanks for the link.

  33. Virginia says:

    The GOP ‘War On Women’ will likely increase the turn out of women voters, which could make all the difference.

  34. Lorrie U says:

    Looks absolutely delightful! Can’t wait. Thanks for the heads up…

  35. Bob says:

    The Sibly Sun-Mercury midpoint is at 109°56′ (18°46′ Cancer). As of today Sibly progressed Venus is square at 19°48′ (21°51′ Aries). The ladies are talking. The Repugs are wooing.

    W – Can we talk?

    R – Are you a registered Voter?

    Women constitute more than half of the US (and world) population.

    A higher percentage of women vote than men.

    More women are registered as Democrats than are as Republicans.

    How did we get 8 years of Raygun, 4 of George Herbert Walker, and 8 of his offspring Dubyuh (or Dubya?)?

    Surely men can’t be blamed for this pickle!

    I am confused.

  36. kiwi says:

    “I would love it if an interviewer asked one/any of the candidates what they mean by “freedom.”
    absolutely Karen!!!!
    I’ve often wanted to ask them to define what “freedom” means and, What happens when my definition of freedom is different than your definition of freedom?

  37. starlight says:

    Elizabeth – There was someone else running – an older man who used to be in state office before. Do you know who that is? I can’t find his chart and he was the one who looked the best. Barrett is under the Saturn station conjunct his Mars from mid-May to mid-July. I like him but worry he might not be able to win.

    Walker is going to be very aggressive. Very. Uranus square and Pluto conjunct his Mars.

  38. Iris says:

    @loyalurker – Thanks for the link in Nancy’s last posting to the Astrotabletalk link. I haven’t read the whole series, but it looks very interesting.

  39. Iris says:

    Nancy – thanks for posting this; I ran the chart for the ACA based on the info in your last post and I was struck by that grand cross.
    Great to read your interpretation.

  40. Lorrie U says:

    NewsScope for April 2, 2012 By Michael Wolfstar

    Anthony Kennedy Weighs Obamacare
    Around June 26, 2012, when the Supreme Court renders its decision, the epochal Uranus-Pluto square will align with Kennedy’s Venus-Uranus, indicating he could once again surprise his constituency by supporting the liberal side of the bench. Kennedy’s expressed interest is about establishing limits to the individual health insurance mandate. Since his progressed Sun in Libra conjoins the U.S. Saturn (orb 0º02’), he will most likely find the limiting principle and uphold the constitutionality of Obamacare.

  41. Betsy says:

    “Christian Fascist Party could be rising up because because they think the anti-Christ has been reelected. Or some other unexpected cause of the day.”

    You mean he hasn’t? 😛

    Just kidding. Great write-up Nancy. I put it up on my Facebook page. :)

  42. Betsy says:

    Bob, all three of those Republican past presidents that you mentioned rode on on the coattails of the Christian Right.

    Christian fascists (a term Nancy used above and I agree with) have this thing about female’s being subservient to men (they think it’s a Godly act to be subservient to a man). Those women who are a voting block within the Christian Right are voting against their own rights on purpose.

  43. DPH says:

    Hi Nancy– Here’s a link to an article that lists Walker’s challengers on the Democratic side:

    Were you maybe thinking of Doug Lafollette, who’s mentioned in this article?

  44. starlight says:

    Yes. Doug Lafollette is the one whose chart I did who actually looks really strong around election day. but he has to win the primary first. I will draw him up again and have another look at all of them. I don’t think this race will be a slam dunk at all. I think Walker will be looking stronger in May.

  45. starlight says:

    Betsy – I don’t use the term Christian Fascists lightly. I think it should be used everywhere. They are no longer the party of Lincoln or Ike or even Reagan. They are totally allied with corporate megapower and use religious fanaticism and uber-patriotism to propagandize their base. It is the very definition of fascism.

  46. loyalurker says:

    Glug, glug, glug
    Having Mars AND Mercury retrograde has been like trying to swim in a riptide wearing cement boots. I’m exhausted and don’t feel like I’m getting anywhere, just drifting further away.

    That is all.

  47. loyalurker says:

    You are so welcome. It was a happy accident that I ran into Astrotabletalk during a search. I’ve read the whole series now and it is truly an excellent read and analysis of the Pluto/Uranus transit relative to global relationships and domestic issues. I’ve bookmarked that website and will be sure to visit regularly. I’m so grateful that such talented astrologers as that guy and Nancy, Nolle and so many others make astrology so accessible and share their wisdom and insight so generously.

  48. virgo says:

    If the supreme court sends the law back to congress, it will be because a majority of the court knocked down the individual mandate. In the history of this bill,the Health insurance companies were the only ones who required the individual mandate in exchange for reforms, such as no preexisting conditions. Then the fight will not only be between Republicans and Democrats, but also between insurance companies and the public. Millions of Americans are already receiving benefits for their sick young children, young adult children, and screening tests are free for everyone now thanks to Obamacare. This is why this fight begins around the time Pluto in Capricorn squares Uranus in Aries. I hope there is some type of victory in the end.

  49. virgo says:

    Starlight, please check the chart for Milwaukee mayor Tom Jarret.

  50. virgo says:

    I mean Milwaukee mayor Tom Barrett

  51. Lorrie U says:

    Just wait until Mars goes direct…!!

  52. Lorrie U says:

    Obama Hate Has Forced Conservative Extremists Out of the Closet

    Nearly every Republican has staked their political life on the fact that all Americans are racists, woman-haters, and evangelical fanatics to impose their Draconian budget that will increase the nation’s debt and devastate the poor and middle-class, and the Republican presidential hopefuls promise to finish what Bush-Republicans started and destroy the economy again. Their opposition to education, financial reforms, safety nets, and a government that works defines them not as Republicans, but as Libertarians.

  53. kiwi says:

    this article shows a different point of from the one Jeff Sessions is pushing, proporting that there is a “massive $17 billion hole in Obamacare” as Jerry had posted on the previous thread:
    The Government Accountability Office, which audits federal spending, has concluded that the national debt would rise precipitously if President Obama’s health care legislation doesn’t go into effect.

    A report titled “The Federal Government’s Long-Term Fiscal Outlook” states that several parts of the health plan “were designed to control the growth of health care costs. The full implementation and effectiveness of these cost-control provisions… would slow the growth in federal health care spending over the long term.”

  54. kiwi says:

    oops – left out a word – should read “point of view”

  55. Wennye' says:

    Dearest Virginia,
    Thanks for posting the newest addition of Matthews Message site. Today it was so needed for me after awakening to a least inspiring day. At the moment in time when I just couldn’t get my mojo working, I decided to look at Starlight’s Blog and just before leaving saw your post as if in neon lights. It worked wonders getting me to look at the larger picture and not so much my little world. Blessings internet friend and thanks again for the post, Wennye’

  56. starlight says:

    10 AM Pacific Time and 1 PM Eastern, I will be on an internet radio show tomorrow. Tune in and send me some good energy!!

  57. Fe says:


    Thanks for posting that link. I remember the long hard days of 2010 on all the blogs going over what would eventually be the final form of the ACA.

    A $17 billion dollar hole would have certainly stuck out like a proverbial sore thumb. The GAO’s report gave the bill a pass and fiscal credibility to get the House Blue Dogs on board.

  58. mima says:

    The Three running for Democrat governors:
    Douglas J. “Doug” La Follette (born June 6, 1940
    Kathleen Falk (born June 26, 1951)
    Thomas Mark “Tom” Barrett (born December 8, 1953

    Can you look into Scott Walker’s lieutenant governor? her name is Rebecca Kleefisch (born August 7, 1975

  59. Jerry says:

    Hi Fe/ Kiwi,

    According to the US Senate Budget report:
    . . . . . it’s a 17 trillion dollar discrepancy/ shortfall. That’s not the same as 17 billion. There’s a whole lot more zeroes attached to that figure (one thousand times more).

    Anyway, it’s all a numbers game. We’re dealing with fiat money. The US treasury is the only system in the world that has the impervious advantage of living beyond its means on such a massive scale with the unfounded impression that it can sustain this unaccountability indefinitely. We are living in a dream world when it comes to govt. expenditures. The point that I was trying to make is that eventually reality is going to catch up with us. And when it does (I suspect the waxing Uranus-Pluto square is going to play a huge part in this), the numbers game will come to an abrupt halt. I think they call that ‘facing reality’. That is what happened during the last, previous Uranus-Pluto square in cardinal signs; the depression era of the 1930’s when the economy was way out of sync and vastly over-leveraged. There’s no earthly reason to expect anything different this time around.

  60. Bob says:

    You got it Nancy.

    I can’t find the calendar referred to by Stardust using the link in the last thread.

    “This calendar for US Supreme Ct. shows nothing scheduled after Monday, June 25, 2012.

  61. Roderick says:

    Francis, I was hoping that she along with Breyer would have retired during Obama’s first two years so I have no idea why either is still there unless they are taking a chance that on serving for another four or eight years if Romney is elected.

    I still don’t understand why Obama opted to nominate Kagan during his first term instead of saving an unknown like her as a stealth second term nominee just in case the Republican regained control of the Senate this fall (not that the Republcans wouldn’t vehemently oppose anyone Obama nominated).

    BTW does anyone know where I can buy some inexpensive (< $500) which does the basics (natal charts, transits, progressions, etc.)?

  62. starlight says:

    That is great news!! Then Obama gets the full power of Jupiter on his Moon, and if they announce on the Friday before, he also gets the culmination of the pr Sun square to Venus that is strengthening his popularity so much now. Hard to see how the majority opinion will go against him. And I don’t buy how it would be “good” for him and the Dems if the Supremes get rid of the individual mandate. It will take decades to get another go round on health care reform. And without the mandate, the costs will skyrocket and/or they will have to abandon the protection against pre-existing conditions. No way he wins if they rule against him. And however the politics go, his heart is in this law.

  63. Jerry says:

    Two very interesting views on the current state of affairs involving Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu’s stance on Iran…..

    Israeli Experts Mum on Iran Attack/ Bibi’s Big Bluff

    April 3, 2012
    Tel Aviv

    A striking feature of the Israeli political landscape in recent months has been the absence of a serious debate on the issue of the threat of war with Iran led by national security figures.

    It is well known that many prominent former military and intelligence officials believe an attack on Iran would be disastrous for Israel. After an initial blast at the idea of striking Iran by two former high-ranking officials last year, however, very little has been heard from such national security figures.

    The reason for this silence on the part of the national security sector, just as the Israeli threat of war was escalating sharply, appears to be a widespread view among Israeli national security analysts that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s threat to attack is a highly successful bluff.


    Jeffrey Goldberg: Israel Isn’t Bluffing

    The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg last night joined the list of informed reporters who believe, as Defense Secretary Leon Panetta does, that an Israeli attack on Iran is likely to occur this year.

    “After interviewing many people with direct knowledge of internal government thinking… I’m highly confident that Netanyahu isn’t bluffing — that he is in fact counting down to the day when he will authorize a strike against a half-dozen or more Iranian nuclear sites,” Goldberg argued in a column for Bloomberg View, where he is a contributor.

    In January, Ronen Bergman, an analyst for the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth, struck a similar tone: “After speaking with many senior Israeli leaders and chiefs of the military and the intelligence, I have come to believe that Israel will indeed strike Iran in 2012,” he wrote in a cover story for the New York Times Magazine.


  64. kiwi says:

    And then there is this ……..

    In little-noticed remarks last month, Israel’s foreign minister declared that a war with Iran would “be a nightmare,” drawing in countries from around the region and leaving “no one…unscathed.”

    During a diplomatic visit to China, Avigdor Lieberman told the Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth:

    “If, God forbid, a war with Iran breaks out, it will be a nightmare. And we will all be in it, including the Persian Gulf countries and Saudi Arabia. No one will remain unscathed. We have to do everything we can to urge the international community to assume responsibility and take action to stop the Iranians … The State of Israel keeps all options open. However, we do believe that if we make the required effort and present a unified international front, we may yet talk the Iranians into giving up their nuclear aspirations … Let me make it clear: The right way to prevent [an all-out flare-up] is to present a solid unified front of the international community.”

  65. kiwi says:

    Dharmaruci’s has now completed his 8 part Pluto article.
    In his latest article he puts forth his interesting take on the new tech communications legal spying dilemmas, with just a little pluto thrown in.

    “Legislation is shortly to go before the UK Parliament allowing the intelligence agency GCHQ to monitor the phone and internet activity of everyone in the UK. They won’t be able to look at the content of calls, emails etc without a warrant, but they’ll be able to see who you’ve been in contact with. Similar legislation failed under Labour and was opposed by the Tories. Let’s see what happens now it’s the other way round.

    The civil liberties groups are up in arms, but it seems like common sense to me…….”

  66. Jerry says:

    Hi Kiwi,

    Just like in the run-up to the Iraqi war in 2003, there were a number voices of dissent in the Bush cabinet. Secretary of State Colin Powell for example held out against a military operation in Iraq for quite some time. But the dominant forces of political opinion in the Bush administration prevailed. The war plans were in motion and Colin Powell was eventually persuaded to fall into line.

    Unfortunately, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu’s primary view of Iran is not that of containment nor of finding a diplomatic solution. He seems rather pessimistic that will ever find tangible results. He likens the current diplomatic bargaining with the mullahs to that of British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain’s policy of appeasement in the events leading up to world war two:

    Netanyahu: It’s 1938 and Iran Is Germany; Ahmadinejad Is Preparing Another Holocaust

    Likud leader hints Israel has the military capability to curb the Iranian threat but time is running out.

    Nov 14, 2006

    Astrologer Leo Tallarico in his latest blog entry gives this assessment…..

    “…..On the day Mars went retrograde, on January 23, the European Union decided it would impose severe sanctions on Iran, in league with sanctions already announced by the USA. And on April 13, the actual day Mars goes back direct again, world powers and Iran will meet to try to settle their differences.

    If they do, the crisis will be calmed down for now, and an attack in the near future will be doubtful. If, however, Iran shows no desire to comply with demands to curtail their nuclear activities, then war will be inevitable and soon. Israel will attack.

    Mars, the god of war, is in the planetary spotlight, as it goes Direct, on the same day as the meeting- quite an impressive synchronicity. The three days surrounding the May 20 Solar Eclipse New Moon in Gemini, and the three days surrounding the June 19 second-in-a-row New Moon in Gemini are likely times for attack, if attack does indeed happen.”

  67. Helen says:

    About civil liberties: interesting small film by noted author Naomi Wolf based on her book, The End of America.

    “The End of America details the ten steps a country takes when it slides toward fascism.”

  68. Lunagardener says:

    Very exciting Starlight! Please post a link if we can listen after the showtime, for those of us that can’t listen live.

  69. shoalsister says:

    Just great, Nancy! thanks for sending the link. I couldn’t figure out how to get the live version and was disappointed to miss it. That was definitely 40 minutes well spent. I learned and learned.

  70. starlight says:

    Thank you for listening, shoalsister. I have no idea how many people might have actually tuned in. Brenda invited me back for another show in September. By then we will know who Romney’s VP pick is and, I hope, a clearer sense of what is to come.

  71. shoalsister says:

    Well, you certainly seemed comfortable in that venue…as if you were only speaking to me (and Brenda, of course) I look forward to more (and more!)

  72. teresahill says:

    Listened to the whole thing today. You did sound perfectly comfortable, and I learned a lot.

  73. Fe says:


    The link led to Jeff SESSIONS’ report, who, as Nancy said before, drinks mightily of the Koolaid. Jeff Sessions is NOT the GAO’s Office. The piece is a partisan rag, not an auditor’s report. It was put together by a health insurance industry lobbyist.

  74. starlight says:

    It is interesting to me that you both learned something from the show. That must be the difference between the written and the spoken word. In my own head, it seemed like much of what I said was very similar to what I have written about on the blog.

  75. clymela says:

    Thanks for the link to the archives of your show. I didn’t know and I am so excited. Thanks again.

  76. clymela says:

    omg!!! Nancy. I looked up the cartoon you linked to about Obama Care and I had heard the same type of thought from a friend as she explained why she hates Obama. Wish I could have thought of a cartoon rather I got a headache.
    I am thinking that this is your most passionate article yet and I really love the energy and the wisdom. Christian Fascist Party indeed-absolutely. I have been rather withdrawn with this not wanting to repeat errors of which I have been guilty-labeling those I disagreed with as fascist. Now sadly I am not exaggerating and I am sad by what is happening in our society. I know this will turn but when? After Pluto has brought enough Daddy Warbucks to their knees?

  77. clymela says:

    HMMM! Thank you Lune Priere-very funny if it weren’t so.

  78. clymela says:

    Oh Wennye-I am having the same type of experience reading this blog today. I am looking forward to the Michael readings too.

  79. Jerry says:

    Hi Fe,

    I thought it would be a good idea to share the wording of the report. I was under the impression this was the text of what was submitted. Is there another report floating around? Can you furnish it for me? I looked but couldn’t find anything else.

    Anyway, the point being, the gap isn’t 17 billion as you erroneously wrote, but 17 trillion.

  80. Lunagardener says:

    Thank you for posting the link to your radio presentation Starlight. I love hearing your voice, quick mind, and interpretations of the election season. A Thousand Thanks!

  81. Jerry says:

    Regarding the above…. The Senate Budget Committee Report submitted on March 29th is what I am referring to.

  82. Fe says:


    The Senate Budget report you posted IS Jeff Sessions report, the REPUBLICAN SENATOR Jeff Sessions, members of the party DETERMINED to make Obama a one-term president.

    Kiwi’s and my error of $17 billion was GENEROUS in giving Sessions’ ludicrousness the benefit of a doubt. However, a 17 trillion dollar deficit projection by Sessions himself takes it out of realm of ludicrousness and brings it straight into the world of bizarre and supernatural. Ain’t gonna happen.

    No politician in their right mind would have voted for ACAA at that rate if that was actually true. Mr. Session’s own predilections in his Match 29th bull$#@p Senate Report — not, mind you, a non-partisan General Audit Report, but Sen. Sessions REPUBLICAN budget report, should be used in the men’s room of Congress and not believed.

    This report is from a party that will stake its claim on making sure Catholic bishops have more to say about a woman’s right to choose than a woman herself. Their lies are based entirely on a fabrication created by insurance lobbyists who see the end of their gargantuan profit-making empires because of Obamacare throwing out pre-existing conditions as a means to deny coverage.

    Throw out every lie they can? Of course they will. And only rubes will believe it.

    At this point, I will check into Open Secrets and see how many health insurance companies CEOS have contributed to Sessions campaigns. Must be at least a trillion dollars in there somewhere.

  83. Fe says:

    Sessions may have confused he ACA with the Department of Defense. THERE a multi-trillion dollar deficit is more plausible.

  84. kiwi says:

    WOW Nancy, just listened. Congratulations!!! You are Awesome! It is so great that with modern communcations I am actually able hear your voice all the way on the other side of the world! You made my day!

  85. Fe says:


    Just listened to the whole podcast. Great show!

  86. Jerry says:

    Hi Fe,

    Yes. That is precisely what I’m saying. It is an election year and there are no restrictions as far as what the other party will conjure up to gain the advantage. As I said earlier, and I can’t emphasize this enough; IF, and that is a BIG if…. if there is indeed a major discrepancy in the numbers then the Health Care Reform bill will run into a major hurdle and will probably be sent back to the President for revisions. You already came to the conclusion that these allegations are false. I think we should not presume anything until all the facts are in. Incidentally, I’m not pro-Republican nor pro anything as far as politics go. I’m a-political. Personally I think politics has it’s drawbacks and severe limitations. To rely on political reform for all humanities ailments is short-sighted. It won’t solve the deeper problems. It is my belief real change can only occur when there is a desire to look beyond the superficial causes and reach into the depths of one soul. Politics never has and never will be the answer to our problems. If it did, all the hundreds of years of diplomatic efforts would have stopped the wars, the distrust and the animosity.

    In any case, it’s always good to discuss these things, to air ones thoughts. Not a debate mind you; i.e. my point in opposition to yours, but rather a genuine sharing. I think that is a valuable part of dialogue.

  87. shoalsister says:

    Nancy, yes what you said is very similar to what you are writing on the blog. When I read and study and think about this mundane astrology, I am hearing my voice, not yours. That seems to have set up an astro foundation, so when I heard you talk (using a lot more words than you write)I felt like that foundation enabled me to click right along understanding and learning even more from what you were saying. It was pretty cool…I felt astro smart!…for a change.

  88. shoalsister says:

    and one more thing I found delightful. You write like you talk. It’s an odd measure that I have – relating to authenticity, I guess. There are several folks who comment here that I am certain I would recognize within minutes of hearing them speak…i.e. Will, Fe, David (makes me laugh) among others. It’s a fun game to play.

  89. karen says:

    Great insights! Added another layer to the articles.

  90. starlight says:

    Thank you, Everyone. All the comments are much appreciated.


  91. will says:


    You are total DOPE – you rocked on that show. Now can someone who is technically-gifted figure out a way we can have you broadcast your own podcast or radio show from this Website? There are scores of really bright people who blog and or read from Starlight News; surely someone knows how to hook Nancy up for this kind of broadcast, huh?

  92. starlight says:

    I am open to it but would need significant help on the tech end.

  93. Bob says:

    Perhaps reading this or checking out some of the links below it can be of help.

    Where has everyone gone? We have landed but have not yet begun to round up astrologers and those who visit their blogs.

  94. starlight says:

    Just watching the Ed Show where he is interviewing Van Jones about ALEC and the movement against them now. Color for Change has been energizing people and sponsors to not support them. Coke and Pepsi have just withdrawn their sponsorship. It is a really clear story about the Uranus/ Pluto square, imo. People power awakening, Uranus, and fighting the hidden agenda and manipulation of the powerful, Pluto. I will try and find the video tomorrow or you can watch it on the Ed Show tonight (I think it is repeated later or maybe hasn’t played yet out West.)

    ALEC is the group that writes the radical conservative legislation for the states, including the Arizona Papers Please Law, the Stand Your Ground Laws in 20+ states, the voter ID laws that will deny voting rights to minorities, etc. Evidently, there are sponsors who had no idea who these people were. Thus, Coke and Pepsi leaving, and probably others to follow.

    This developing story will be worth watching given the building first crossing of the Uranus/Pluto square in the next couple of months. ALEC has gotten a lot of attention because of the Trayvon Martin story.

  95. starlight says:

    Thanks. I will take a look at it.

  96. teresahill says:

    Anne Ortelee broadcasts through this website:
    Why don’t you listen to one of her broadcasts to see what she’s doing and then check out the site. I think it used to be free or nearly free, as long as you weren’t in a prime time slot. It’s only in the last year or so that they started charging to do your broadcast. Not sure what it costs.

  97. Jerry says:

    Hi Nancy,

    I thoroughly enjoyed listening in on your radio interview with Brenda. Your positive view on President Obama’s re-election prospects in November was interesting. Have you read the latest DayKeeper Journal article on Obama’s recent press conference? It is a delightful read; timed perfectly for April 1st.

    President Weighs In On Uranus-Pluto
    by Staff on April 1, 2012

    The president chided front-running Republican candidates today during an impromptu press conference.

    “I mean, look,” he said, in response to questioning by veteran reporters, “If you study the astrological charts for the past century or so, it’s clear that the Uranus-Pluto square is going to bring us us into a decade or so of massive social and cultural upheaval. In fact, all indications are that these transformations are going to be so incredibly surprising and far-reaching, that we can’t even imagine how they will reconfigure the world we know.

    “I have teams working on providing responses to various situations that could come into play. For instance, this is a square, not a conjunction like we had in the sixties. So we expect the enormous changes underway to be more difficult, a little rougher for folks. But where will those trouble spots be, and how can we help things go more smoothly? We have top-notch astrologers at the ready, feeding us contingency plans and alternative scenarios. And these are just some of the areas they’re working on. After all, we have the whole Pluto-in-Capricorn phenomenon that’s been sweeping through the world’s financial structures and institutions for the past couple of years, and that’s far from over at this point.”


  98. starlight says:

    Jerry – That is hilarious! Thanks for posting it.

  99. Gypsi says:

    Very Cool! You are certainly qualified. I wouldn’t have a chance to catch a live anything except a fish or a honey bee swarm this year.

  100. andre says:

    I wish it were true and hope that some day it will be.

  101. Francis says:

    I so love this action because it will bring ALEC to the foreground even more so people will know about it!

  102. starlight says:

    More on ALEC – Kraft Foods is now pulling out.

    This is really the quintessential Uranus/Pluto square story of the moment. Growing mass movement aided by social media (Uranus in Aries), after a sudden event (Trayvon) awakened people (Uranus), now clamoring to end power of a hidden, very powerful and manipulative force (Pluto).

  103. loyalurker says:

    I mentioned the U.S./Iran talks scheduled for mid-month and Nolle’s discussion of the volatile transits at that time. Here’s another mid-month event. Very interesting that both have to do with the nuclear capability of “rogue” nations.

    AP Exclusive: Analysis shows NKorea near to launch

  104. loyalurker says:

    Wow, that’s amazing news! Thanks for posting it. There are several similar corporate organizations that collectively lobby and write laws and influence many areas of our government and law. So I hope this unveiling continues. And I with it the stigma of unveiling them which has previously been deemed “crazy”, “paranoid” and the work of “conspiracy theorists” will also likely change. For instance, the secretive Bilderberg meetings and organizations such as the Business Roundtable to name just two.

  105. loyalurker says:

    Oh, and the various “think tanks” have been created exclusively for the purpose of influencing or creating corporate-friendly laws and legislative decisions.

  106. Helen says:

    I heard your show – very informative. Liked it a lot!

  107. Patty says:

    Dear Starlight, Very much enjoyed your Podcast!

    Besides doing a Radio Show…It would be great see you do a ‘monthly column’ at one of the popular Progressive sites.
    Look at the successful (always top-rated interest) of the Astrologer on OpEd News: This Astrologer seldom…if ever mentions ‘Mundane Political Astrology’ which I am sure would be of even greater interest to the many political junkies!
    One of the new up-and-coming sites like: would be a terrific fit for you!

  108. Bob says:

    Newt ain’t so bad. The election of 1828 had an accidental adulterer and an alleged pimp campaigning to be President. The Election of 1828 from Wikipedia.

    “Historians debate the significance of the election, with many arguing that it marked the beginning of modern American politics, with the decisive establishment of democracy and the formation of the two-party system.”

    “The campaign was marked by an impressive amount of mudslinging. Jackson’s marriage came in for attack: when he had married his wife Rachel, the couple had believed that she was divorced; however, the divorce was not yet finalized, so he had to remarry her once the legal papers were complete. In the Adams campaign’s hands, this became a scandal. Charles Hammond in his Cincinnati Gazette asked: “Ought a convicted adulteress and her paramour husband be placed in the highest offices of this free and Christian land?” ”

    “Adams did not escape attack. It was charged that Adams, while serving as Minister to Russia, had surrendered an American servant girl to the appetites of the Czar.”

    “When the results of the election were announced, a mob entered the White House, damaging the furniture and lights. Adams escaped through the back and large punch bowls were set up to lure the crowd outside. Conservatives were horrified at this event, and held it up as a portent of terrible things to come from the first Democratic president.”
    See! Those Liberals were rowdy from the beginning.

    I am trying to find the first Presidential election in which all of the states (popular vote) voted on the same day to compare with transits for this years election.

  109. Bob says:

    28th United States Congress

    Passed on January 23, 1845: Presidential Election Day Act, ch. 1, 5 Stat. 721

    The Congress adopted a uniform day on which the States were to choose their Electors in 1845, the Tuesday following the first Monday in November in years divisible by four.

    First common election day for all states: Election of 1848. Nov 7, 1848
    (Except for S. Carolina)

    Ira Glass on the coming political times.

  110. will says:

    A Nice Easter Message for The Dark Side

    Open letter to the Obama Haters from an anonymous source:
    To your distress, for most of the rest of your life, you will bear this:
    That Barack Obama, whether re-elected or not, will always be President. He will always be the man from a mixed race background that became the President of the US, he and his wife will be welcomed throughout the world by nations and their leaders, the most influential members of the arts and sciences will be their acquaintances and companions. He will be regarded and honored as the President who entered office during a deep recession and two wars and turned the country around.
    You will always justify your lack of achievement on the unfairness of every system, your lack of success on the government or regulation, your failure to accomplish anything in a country where impoverished immigrants with limited language skills are succeeding around you on the liberals or the communists or the elites.

    The small satisfaction you garner while spouting derisive comments here only exists in your self-delusion and is a pale comfort compared to the reality that exists around you.
    You can try to salve your bitter existence with theories of international Kenyan plots or document fraud, whatever. But that is your future. Your world will always be limited by your small-mindedness, your associates only those that are as poorly adapted to the world around them, your accomplishments non-existent and your life a bitter existence.
    It’s time to move on. In your journey into denial, you’ve already sacrificed your conscience and whatever claim to character you had. Your pretense at a deity derived morality is mocked by your myopic hatred of the ‘other’. Your concept of patriotism is waving a child’s flag on the sidelines as others defend your liberty.
    Bush 41 and spouse are living into their nineties, the Obama’s will too. You’ll see them at the inaugurals, your TV will tell you of their lives and that of their daughters, of their successes and their trips and the books they write and their accolades.

    Make it easy on yourself. Take a deep cleansing breath and just let go, make the best of your situation. Whether re-elected or not, he will always be the 44th President of the US, and your children and their children will read of him in their history books, the first black man elected president of the US.
    If not re-elected, he will be healthier and wealthier than he is as President, but he is willing to make that sacrifice for you.
    You still live in a free country made more safe and prosperous by your President, and he, the First Lady and their children will always have you in their prayers. “

  111. starlight says:

    Thanks for the idea, Patty. That is a great site. I had never seen it before.

  112. Nita says:


    Thank you so much for this I am crying now as I read this beautiful letter this was so needed for me today on Good Friday.
    I am going to do everything in my power to get President Obama re-elected. The haters need to understand more people love the President than they can imagine.

    Many Blessings to you and thanks again

  113. Jerry says:

    2010 HBO film The Special Relationship

    I stumbled upon this film quite by accident the other day. It is an absolutely fascinating up close and personal look at the former president Bill Clinton, his British counterpart Tony Blair and their common goals and beliefs.

    Here’s a review:

    Film review – The Special Relationship (2010)

    Ever since World War II the close relationship shared between the UK and USA governments has been referred to as ‘The Special Relationship’, sometimes sincerely and sometimes ironically. In this made-for-cable-television film by BBC Films and HBO Films, the term is used to describe the relationship between UK Prime Minister Tony Blair and USA President Bill Clinton, from Blair’s appointment as the leader of the Labour Party in 1994 to the end of Clinton’s presidency in 2001. Examining the shifting lines between the personal and the public, the political and the private, The Special Relationship almost functions as a strange sort of bromance between two men who heralded the arrival of a new approach to progressive centre-left politics. Over the course of the film the two men learn that political friendships are strategic and conditional.

    Michael Sheen once more portrays Tony Blair as he has done twice previously in The Queen and The Deal, both of which were written by Peter Morgan who also wrote The Damned United and Frost/Nixon (both of which also starred Sheen). This is clearly a fruitful acting/writing partnership as once again Sheen’s performance is impeccable. In The Special Relationship he appears opposite Dennis Quaid, whose performance as Clinton is very good although sometimes he seems a bit overly focused on impersonating Clinton’s appearance and manner of speaking rather than giving a fully nuanced performance like Sheen does.


    Here’s a two minute theatrical trailer:

  114. Jerry says:

    This film is freely available for viewing at the following URL link:

  115. Jerry says:

    Because it is in the live-stream viewing format, it is recommended that once the film activates, to press the pause button and allow the grey bar to fully load (buffer) to the end. This process may take up to 15 to 20 min. depending on how fast your computer is. Incidentally, among the selection of links to this film provided in the website, I found the Stagevu version works best.

  116. Jerry says:

    Hi Will,

    Regarding Pres. Obama’s record and reputation coming under question… I thoroughly understand the sentiments; however I have to wonder if the undertone of emotions expressed in the above opinion piece are slightly misplaced.

    Here’s the way I see it…. a persons actions, the quality of life that one leads represents a beacon and inspiration for others. It stands on its own merits and endures the test of time. If one feels the need to answer to critics, the right-wing sector of the political spectrum; one has to be mindful not to fall into that ever so subtle victim mentality, the “them against us” mind-set. They (the Republicans) also have their part to play. Opposition forces us to re-evaluate and become more circumspect in our choices. It is all part of the process of self-awareness. At least that is the way I see it.

  117. Jerry says:

    I’m not sure if I worded that correctly. Read instead: “Regarding the concern for Pres. Obama’s record and reputation coming under question as expressed in the above opinion piece……”

  118. andre says:

    Ray Merriman this morning on Obama’s reelection and the possibility of his impeachment in 2014:

    ”My preliminary forecast for an Obama re-election is based on one simple observation: the heavy assault on the USA chart by the transiting Uranus-Pluto square (2012-2015) is matched by the heavy assault of transiting aspects (Chiron conjunct Neptune) forming a T-square to the Moon-Pluto square in the natal chart of Barack Obama (born August 4, 1961, 7:24 PM, Honolulu, HI, according to his web site). My view therefore was that he would be re-elected, along with a Republican-controlled Congress, and an initiative to impeach him by 2014 would be undertaken by Congress, similar to what happened to President Bill Clinton. Only this time it might succeed. (…)

    The end result may not be so much an election victory, as a precursor to an impeachment. Unless, of course, the decision to act upon grievance is instead transformed to work towards creating a miracle. In this writer’s mind, that would be a movement towards finding common ground for unity instead of division, for realistic solutions rather than blame. It would be a movement towards the realization of the peaceful principles of Neptune in Pisces, instead of the polarization of the war-like and destructive reactionary qualities of Uranus in Aries square Pluto.”,-2012/

  119. Diane L says:

    I was just about to post this too, Andre. Impeached? That’s very extreme but I guess that’s Uranus in Aries sq Pluto in Cappy. Hope & pray it doesn’t come to that . . .

  120. starlight says:

    I will say that the second half of 2014 and the first half of 2015 will be some of the most difficult times in the Obama presidency, but he seems to come back fine by later in 2015. I have some concerns about his health during that period, however.

    I have never been a big fan of Merriman’s predictive abilities.

  121. rc says:

    Bingo !

  122. Diane L says:

    Oh good. :-) Impeachment proceedings are the last thing congress needs to waste time on . . .

  123. Bob says:

    Should that bunch of crooks and liars in the House take such an action they do so at the bidding of their handlers from the 1 %.

    Last night I spent some time visiting some right leaning sites (mostly blogs by unknowns) and was taken by how rabid they are in expressing their dislike of President Obama. Whether it was because they are hardcore Republicans or because they are racists I don’t know, but it re-enforced in me the need to get boots on the ground to urge others in favor of the President to vote this year and to help those who need transportation to and/or from the voting booth get it. I don’t give a damn if the Republicans outspend the President by 20 to 1, each voter gets just 1 vote.

  124. starlight says:

    They have been fed vitriolic propaganda that allies with what they want to believe: Obama is their enemy. If/when he wins reelection, they could riot. I might if I believed what they believe is true.

  125. starlight says:

    Amazing video from Rachel in case you missed it on how Michigan’s government is ignoring its constitution to pass draconian laws:

  126. Wennye' says:

    Thank you dear Will..thank you! May you be Blessed this Holy Time and always

  127. Bob says:

    I hope the unrest near the end of the year has to do with the Bush tax cuts (Jun7, 2001, 10:07 am, EDT, Washington, DC from White House archives) rather than the election as the Nov 28 eclipse falls on Saturn in the tax cut chart.

  128. Bob says:

    I was saving these links to charts I have done regarding past elections and President Obama for a future thread but think it is not too soon to put them out now.

    On the interactive election map (but not in my album) my picks of the swing states (brown or tan colored) that I think the President can win Michigan or Ohio could be replaced by Pennsylvania but if he loses Florida his re-election would be in serious jeopardy.

  129. will says:


    That’s a very interesting insight – I’ll bet you are on to something here. You have to know it will drive the House and Senate crazy!!!

  130. will says:

    Jerry, in all honesty, WTF are you talking about?

    I had a dream last night – Meher Baba appeared; he was crying. I said, “Baba, why so glum?” He just shook his head, blew his nose in a schmattah and showed me your post.

  131. Lune Prière says:


  132. Lune Prière says:

    Starlight, Rachel has been following that story for some time. I can’t understand why it’s not in the courts yet. Will have to do some research. A truly unbelievable power grab by Snyder!

  133. will says:

    Reading this a few times, the classical astrological assignment of Pluto as ruler of Aries resonated deeply with me, as did what “Some astrologers think…”

    In classical astrology, Mars rules both Aries and Scorpio, and in modern astrology, Pluto is given rulership over Scorpio. Some astrologers think Pluto’s rulership should be over Aries based on the idea that 1) Aries is the season of spring, a time of renewal, resurrection, and rebirth (everything comes back to life), which are three of Pluto’s main dynamics, and 2) every sign after the Sun is ruled by planets in order of their closeness to the Sun (Mercury rules Virgo, Venus rules Libra, Mars rules Scorpio, Jupiter rules Sagittarius, and Saturn rules Capricorn). The other half of the sign rulerships start with the Moon ruling Cancer, and then every planet rules the previous sign according to its closeness to the Sun. Hence Mercury rules Gemini, Venus rules Taurus, and then we start with the unseen planets from furthest out to inward, so that Pluto (instead of Mars) rules Aries, Neptune (instead of Jupiter) rules Pisces, and Uranus (instead of Saturn) rules Aquarius.

  134. teresahill says:

    And seems like it will start the new Congress’s term on a make-or-break moment. How will they ever get anything done after an all-out battle like that?

  135. Lune Prière says:

    Apparently the whole city manager (ie GOP/plutocracy coup) is being challenged in several courts. I don’t see how such an undemocratic law can survive.

    “It’s not clear who is in charge of Flint, Mich., these days.

    Earlier this month, a state circuit court judge unseated the city’s emergency manager, Michael Brown, and voided all decisions he’s made since being appointed by Republican Gov. Rick Snyder four months ago.

    The ruling found the state violated the Open Meetings Act when appointing Brown in December and is just the latest in a series of legal challenges that could freeze Michigan’s controversial emergency manager law.”

  136. clymela says:

    Everyone-I can’t figure out what is driving this hatred of Obama. I have asked friends and family but all I get is strange stuff such as: “he is going to take away all our freedom” this in response to an attempt to talk about how necessary universal health coverage. Nothing that I am conscious of would normally cause such hatred and contempt. Is this the beginnings of Pluto in Capricorn? Is this the beginning of our constitution falling apart and then coming around to a deeper understanding of that which we have rejected?

  137. Lorrie U says:

    Re. some comments above. First of all, I can’t possibly imagine a republican-controlled Congress! Second of all, one has to have a reason to impeach, not just because you don’t like the outcome of an election. Other than middle-aged white men, I don’t see a long line of people voting republican.

  138. will says:


    My take on it is that this is largely a function of Pluto having moved into Capricorn and now with an approaching square from Uranus in Aries. It has been postulated by a number of fine astrologers that when Pluto first moves into a sign, it drags up and shows everything that has manifested in that sign that is now foul, fetid, really rotten-to-the-core and in need of being torched and destroyed with a view to new life. My sense is that we are seeing a mass projection of the deepest fears and guilt of the deep vein of racism and intolerance that runs deeply in the unconscious narrative of our nation. Now that nasty narrative is percolating to the surface and the Plutonian Powers that Be (the 1%) have succeeded in placing all of the blame and responsibility for their own self-serving, destructive policies and practices on our first President of color. There was a similar but less slightly less heinous campaign of this kind aimed directly at Bill and Hillary Clinton in the 90s, if you recall. Hillary’s push for healthcare reform was mercilessly torpedoed by the Repug Right as they were furious that her husband had essentially “stolen” George Herbert Walker Bush’s second term. And when Clinton, against all odds, won a second term, they went directly after him with the likes of Linda Tripp and Ken Starr with the Monica Lewinsky scandal. The Righteous Right really believes they are right, if you will. Anything that even begins to threaten their horribly up-tight, incalcitrant and utterly irrelevant perspective is (much like we see in the radical Muslim agenda) an “infidel.”

    The sad part is that highly-effective right-wing operatives in broadcasting (Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’, all of Fox News, Rupert Murdoch and Koch Bros) have managed to get tens of millions of the voters to believe that all that is wrong with Amerika today is due to the Commie, Marxist, Kenyan, Radical Muslim, false Certificate of Birth Fag-loving Ni–er in the White House. That’s my take.

  139. Jerry says:

    You have to ask yourself Will, is the opinion piece you shared objective in any way? It struck me as being quite emotional and a tad adversarial. Perhaps you have so intensely identified yourself with all of this that you can’t see this clearly. Not that emotion is bad, but what’s the difference between your views and the right-wingers if there is such distrust and rancour on both sides of the aisle? I think it is a very strange and distorted way of looking at things.

  140. starlight says:

    If, Heaven forbid, both Houses belong to the GOP next year, anything will be possible. Their excuse for impeachment wouldn’t have to be factual. They make things up all the time that justify their rage or their warped policies. Why should this be different? It seems really extreme and I doubt it will happen, but reason and fact won’t enter into it if it does.

  141. starlight says:

    They have been effectively manipulated, made vulnerable by their fears and sense of victimhood: in particular their fear of being controlled by the government or having their money or their guns or their freedom taken away. It is easy to believe something bad about someone you already want to dislike. The problem is that even the legislators have begun to believe their own bull $#*! and that is getting very dangerous.

  142. rc says:

    Hi Clymela Simple,
    RURAL whites are very very scared of Black people right now.

    152 freaken years and They are finally getting the message .

  143. Bob says:

    If they (THEY, you know!) were to try, President Obama and President Clinton, as his second, would make a very formidable team.

    We can put the Republican party out of power, but it will take dedication and at least 2 elections to do it.

  144. Bob says:

    That would be sweet for the last 2 years of President Obama’s second term and the full term of the Democratic President who succeeds him.

  145. will says:

    hear hear!!!

  146. will says:

    Perhaps no opinions are objective, Jerry; perhaps you’re going right up your own ass with this.

  147. Lune Prière says:

    Clymela, I asked my right wing mother exactly that: “What freedoms has he taken away?”


  148. Jerry says:

    Nicely put Will. Ok. Here’s my response. In all honesty (to use your phrase), if you want to work yourself up into a frenzy over this, develop an ulcer and die at a young age I certainly won’t stop you. Just saying there are other ways of dealing with this. Resentment and anger (which oddly enough is your main objection) is not one of them. I rather like Nelson Mandela’s approach when he took over as leader of South Africa. In a very courageous and innovative move he eradicated the many years of oppression; the apartheid system. But he did it by embracing all. He was sensitive to the dangers and felt it important to not alienate the white minority. He encouraged reconciliation even to the point of asking the staff of the previous government to stay on. Mind you these were the very same people that had unjustly imprisoned him for 30 odd years. He recognized the challenges, but for him there was no other recourse. To forgive and to forget was the only way forward. Personally, I think you may be confusing passion with anger and resentment. To use a concrete example, here’s an intriguing look at Charlie Chaplin in the 1940 film The Great Dictator giving an impassioned speech about the need to be united and all-inclusive. No resentment or recrimination expressed, just a genuine plaintive plea for humanity to be more kind and compassionate. It was during the height of world war two. Someone had the brilliance of combining it with a contemporary instrumental piece. The effect is electrifying. Have a look……

  149. Gary B says:


    I am overwhelmed by the Mercury retro considerations for election day 2012. The following are the results from the 2008 election:

    Final popular vote count 2008 presidential election?

    Citing a study by the University of California at Santa Barbara (, the popular vote total was as follows:

    Barrack Obama/Joseph Biden (Democrat) 69,456,897 votes (52.9%)

    John McCain/Sarah Palin (Republican) 59,934,814 votes (45.7%)

    This was a significant win by almost 10 million voters. The Repugs have offended almost every voting block. So how does this portend to be a chance to win any part of Congress or the Presidency? Voter turnout should not be any less than then and even with massive voter fraud they should not close the gap. This is every thing about a last dieing gasp/grasp. I would venture a guess that this is much more about the turmoil around the election period through 2015 pertaining to massive gun involved riots and revolts by their supporters.

  150. kiwi says:

    I remember when I was a kid growing up in NZ in the 50s, much of the talk about americans at that time was in the vein of ‘they are so easily brainwashed.’
    I think fox news etc has done such a great job of convincing people of what they want them to think, that many people haven’t any concept that there might be another possible storyline. It actually makes me wonder if there has been a sort of subliminal message / mass hypnosis perpetrated onto regular fox TV viewers.
    Unfortunately, its sort of the flip side of North Korea’s ‘dear leader’ scenario.
    Don’t know what the solution is – I’ve given up trying to get through to my husbands family who are fox news regulars, and so has my husband now that he sees there is more to the world than what you hear about in the US!

  151. kiwi says:

    I was just thinking more about fox news and their avid viewers. And it occurred to me that perhaps checking out roger ailes and fox news for this astro year might be interesting.
    Found this from an old Jan 2010 posting from Marjorie Orr ……
    Roger ailes (15 May 1940). He has been described as the most successful new television executive of the last decade. Fox News – which he started from zero in 1996 for Murdoch – makes more money than CNN and MSNBC and the evening news bulletins of the broadcast networks combined.
    ailes is a Sun Uranus in Taurus so well designed for the Uranian world of television but stubborn with it. He’s also got Mercury, Saturn, perhaps Jupiter in Taurus. Saturn squares Pluto as does his Jupiter in Aries/Taurus; with Jupiter sextile Mars and Mars square Neptune. So he’s confident, pushy, not co-operative, designed for showbiz (Mars Nep).
    But his determined Sun Uranus Mercury in Taurus oppose Palin’s Neptune and square her Sun Mars Saturn in Aquarius – so it’s hardly ideal. They’ll clash mightily at some point.
    He’s not feeling as upbeat as his image sounds with tr Neptune square his Sun at the moment and tr Uranus (and tr Saturn) moving to square his Mars soon; with tr Uranus returning to do so in 2011. 2011 looks a tough slog year for him with a huge upheaval in 2012.
    Fox News itself (7 Oct 1996) – a fiery Libra Sun sextile Mars in flashy Leo, square a money-oriented Jupiter in Capricorn – is also not having as easy a ride ahead is one might think. 2011 looks real tough going with SArc Pluto trine Mars and a highly insecure SArc Uranus opp Mars in 2012.
    Is it possible for any of you expert astrologers to look at this?
    If the political effectiveness of ailes and fox news, and perhaps murdoch too, during 2012 is affected by the astrology, and they are all having difficulties this year, might that be taken as a good sign for Obama?

  152. Jerry says:

    The Hunt For Red Pyongyang: South Korea On Alert For Naval Attack After “Losing” 4 North Korean Subs
    April 7, 2012

    Just because the imminent launch of a North Korean rocket along a trajectory which will likely force Japan to strike it down, something which Pyongyang said would be equivalent to an act of war, was not enough, it now appears that South Korea has commenced the hunt for Red Pyongyang or four, as it is now “searching for four North Korean submarines that disappeared after leaving their bases on the tense peninsula.” ABC News reports that “A military source quoted in a South Korean newspaper says up to four North Korean submarines slipped out of port in recent days and have so far avoided detection. The source was also quoted as saying that Pyongyang has stepped up submarine infiltration drills as the weather has warmed.” As a result, “Seoul is now on alert for a possible strike against a South Korean naval ship.” This won’t be the first time a North Korean sub is implicated in potential wrongdoing: “The South accuses the North of using a midget submarine to sink the corvette the Cheonan two years ago, which left 46 South Korean sailors dead.”


    Note: The reference to the November 23, 2010 NK shelling of South Korean island Yeonpyeong coincided astrologically with a Mars-Moon opposition at 19 Gemini/Sag. It conjoined the North Korean natal Jupiter at 19 Sag. There is a similar Mars-Moon opposition on June 11th only at 19 Virgo-Pisces in t square to to the natal Jupiter. June should be an interesting month.

  153. Jerry says:

    My mistake. The sinking of the SK ship Cheonan is unrelated to the Nov 23, ’10 incident.

  154. Lune Prière says:

    Thanks for sharing that astrology-packed article kiwi! It’s interesting because I was thinking last night that the advent of Faux News may be the single most destructive event in the last generation. It allows millions of people to live in a truth-free, science-free, and wholly partisan echo chamber. All news sources have some degree of subjectivity, but Faux allows its viewers to exist in a completely separate universe.

  155. Lune Prière says:

    I’m not at all familiar With Vedic astrology, but some of his comments mirror those of Starlight, especially about 2015. Pretty sure Biden will remain on the ticket, though I’ve read similar forecasts elsewhere.

    “After July 2012 the momentum will again shift in favor of President Obama …… Saturn is a very good planet for President Obama. At the same time transit Jupiter will enter Taurus sign on May 16th, 2012, and will start aspecting the natal position of Saturn and Jupiter in Capricorn in President Obama’s astrology chart. This will be excellent time for Obama when luck will be on his side once again. President Obama’s approval ratings will go up after June/July 2012, and the public opinion will again shift in his favor just before 2012 elections. Hillary Clinton will replace Joe Biden for the Vice President’s position in 2012 elections. Obama will win 2012 elections very easily and will get re-elected as the President of United States for the second term.   Year 2013 and 2014 will be the golden years in Obama’s second term and for United States. The economy will be doing better in US, and President Obama will solve many domestic and international problems during this time. Obama will be able to end the two wars and bring troops home during this period. ”

    Hoping Starlight can provide a more positive outlook than this author:

    “President Obama will run out of luck between Oct 2014 and Dec 2015 when transit Saturn will be in Scorpio. Saturn in Scorpio will aspect all important planets in his astrology chart while Obama is in Saturn’s mahadasha……..During this time President Obama will find it very difficult to complete his second term.”

  156. starlight says:

    I think mid-2014 to mid-2015 will be very difficult for the president. Saturn will square his Ascendant 3x and then opposed to his Moon 3x. It will also square Michelle’s Venus and possibly Moon around that time and oppose Biden’s Ascendant.

    Now this can be simply dealing with the chaos created by the aftermath of the transits of Uranus and Pluto to the US Sun or it could be a more direct attack on the president or it could be health-related for the president (Moon and Ascendant affected). It will clearly be a difficult time. Pluto opposite the US Sun is a longer lasting transit than the Uranus square, and implies a big power struggle within the government, way more intense than what we have seen. But is it government versus corporate power, government versus foreign power (Iran?), Republican versus Democrat, rebellious sector of people against the government? I don’t know the answer to that. None of the possibilities are mutually exclusive.

    To answer Gary’s question above, there are many in the country who fall for the GOP propaganda and they all vote. They all believe all the nonsense being spread about the president: i.e., he is destroying the country and taking their freedoms, in essence. Their rage and fear is at a high level and their representatives fall for the same nonsense. The coming planets are explosive and suggest widespread rebellion (Uranus) that could take some very strong tactics (Pluto) to suppress. Anything can happen.

  157. starlight says:

    By the way, I think Kathleen Falk will win the Wisconsin primary. I really need a birth time for her!! My guess (and it is only a guess) gives her a birth time around 9 AM.

  158. Jerry says:

    Nicely put Will. Ok. Here’s my response. In all honesty (to use your phrase), if you want to work yourself up into a frenzy over this, develop an ulcer and die at a young age I certainly won’t stop you. Just saying there are other ways of dealing with this. Resentment and anger (which oddly enough is your main objection) is not one of them. I rather like Nelson Mandela’s approach when he took over as leader of South Africa. In a very courageous and innovative move he eradicated the many years of oppression; the apartheid system. But he did it by embracing all. He was sensitive to the dangers and felt it important to not alienate the white minority. He encouraged reconciliation even to the point of asking the staff of the previous government to stay on. Mind you these were the very same people that had unjustly imprisoned him for 30 odd years. He recognized the challenges, but for him there was no other recourse. To forgive and to forget was the only way forward. Personally, I think you may be confusing passion with anger and resentment. To use a concrete example, here’s an intriguing look at Charlie Chaplin in the 1940 film The Great Dictator giving an impassioned speech about the need to be united and all-inclusive. No resentment or recrimination expressed, just a genuine plaintive plea for humanity to be more kind and compassionate. It was during the height of world war two. Someone had the brilliance of combining it with a contemporary instrumental piece. The effect is electrifying. Have a look……

  159. Lune Prière says:

    Thanks Starlight. As someone who is still in the middle of a long transit back and forth over my cardinal Sun-Moon-Mercury-Neptune T-square, linking the ascendant as being ruled by Mercury, it sounds difficult. Will remember to focus on imaging light surrounding the President and those around him. If we all do this on a large scale it may add a layer or protection around them.

    It’s quite hard to imagine “a big power struggle within the government, way more intense than what we have seen”.

  160. NEOBuckeye says:

    The Republicans are mad. Insane-with-rage mad. I wouldn’t put it past them. Some sort of particularly strong opposition to the President appears likely during Pluto’s transit of the US Sun.

  161. karen says:

    Just terrific posts! It feels at times as if each of us are being pushed to accept fabricated “truthiness.” Our freedoms are being taken away (loved your cricket post, Lune) because it benefits corporations to frame the discussion this way. Insurance corporations want the ability to discriminate and charge ludicrous sums of money for what amounts to non coverage. One example of many. Framing the discussion — your personal liberties are being taken away — ensures that criminal corporations will continue criminal behavior. Thanks to the ill-informed voter.

    ALEC’s very foundation is based upon the above twists that even Machievelli would have found fascinating.

  162. Lune Prière says:

    Exactly karen…follow everything back to the money of the 1%.

  163. Jerry says:

    The above is an accidental double post. It is in reply to Will’s 8:23 pm entry below…..

  164. Lune Prière says:

    That is an amazing amount of work you’ve done Bob! Most of its over my head, but impressive!

  165. Lorrie U says:

    Fox News has been losing a considerable amount of viewers lately…

  166. Nick says:

    I really enjoyed the Charlie Chaplin piece thanks Jerry.

    Seems to be the old old story, the generations change but the baser men always seem to drag us all into war.
    I wonder if there is a place in the Universe where we could only receive the loving rays of venus and the sweet caress of Jupiter as they shine rainbows of happiness through the windows of our souls. No more Pluto and its unearthing transformations, no more Uranus and its alarming and sudden entrance through our front door like an automobile accident that “just happened.” No more Saturn and the time keeper keeping score of everything I ever did or wanted. No more NO. No more you must wait till the appointed time. I want to be free, free to roam and bathe in the honest light surrounded by peace and happiness, far away from mankind and its selfish assertions of me and mine.
    Somewhere over the rainbow….

  167. Wennye' says:

    Will remember to focus on imaging light surrounding the President and those around him. If we all do this on a large scale it may add a layer or protection around them

    I do it every day Lune, every day..Have a Blessed Easter!

  168. Lune Prière says:

    You too dear Wenneye’ – always wonderful to hear from you.

  169. Wennye' says:

    That was a powerful read Will..and all so true as you and Clymela have written. The best response I have gotten from a hidden republican in my immediate circle of friends, who I may add is a senior on a fixed income, veteran and gay. ” People from Texas are republicans” which left me stunned. Had to write him a long letter asking him to explain clearly why he has stayed on this route since he has not been in his parental household forever. Only later he has said “he has his head screwed on right now”. I truly hope so..Blessings this Holy Sunday, friend

  170. Wennye' says:

    Bob, this is vital in getting our President reelected, BOOTS ON THE GROUND/HIGH HEELS as well..We forget that we are ‘government’ and we can change it from going uglier. Freedom does not come easy we need to get off our stuffing and remind the money people it belongs to US..Blessings to you, LETS GO AND RECLAIM OUR RIGHTS

  171. Jerry says:

    Hi Nick,

    Well expressed sentiments. Thank you. I’m sure that rainbow will appear in due time, hopefully in the not so distant future. As Chaplin briefly alluded, it is all there in men’s hearts. It is just a matter of reaching in and finding it.

  172. andre says:

    Canada’s Sun-Uranus conjunction at 8 degrees Cancer on the IC will be hit this year and next by the Uranus-Pluto square, and may offer a preview of what will come in 2014-15 in the US. At the moment, serious scandals are brewing around the conservative federal government. In Quebec, polls predict the separatist party will win the coming election. It is possible things may play out very differently in each country despite similar planetary patterns.

  173. teresahill says:

    My daughter, whose 20th birthday is today, has had Saturn going back and forth in opposition to her natal Sun for the last… I don’t even know. Year? Maybe more.
    It’s been really scary and just awful to watch, as her mother. Included a nasty car accident she walked away from, but the cop and the tow truck driver said they didn’t see how.
    I think it’s done now. God, I hope so.

  174. Roderick says:

    Bob the current Democratic Party is what the old Republican party used to be plus inclusion of gays and lesbians some protections for women’s rights.

    This country has moved so far to the Right that Obama is is further to the right than Reagan and people call him a centrist and the Republicans call him a socialist.

  175. Will says:


    That circle of White Light is like nothing else. No amount of writing or blogging is more powerful – he’s in my rosary group intentions every weekday.

  176. Wennye' says:

    Teresahill, Stay strong Mom and pray for them as well. I now have to enlarge my daily prayer circle to include the grands. We really do have a very hard job through out life, don’t we? Glad your baby survived..Continuos Blessings friend