Civil War 2.0

As the Middle East is convulsing in a huge swath of violent confrontation with protesters across thousands of miles standing up to their oppressive governments, America may be experiencing the first skirmish in its own building civil war. The battle lines drawn in Wisconsin, and developing in Ohio and other Republican-led states, are ostensibly over union rights. Republicans want to cripple public sector unions by ending their right to collective bargaining, while Democrats are fighting to maintain this hard-fought right, understanding it as the last bulwark of workers’ power needed to protect workers’ interests.

This highly-charged confrontation may prove to be the first of many battles over a large assortment of issues in the coming five or six years. But the underlying war is being waged between two completely different and increasingly unyielding versions of reality, leading to diametrically opposed policy solutions by their proponents. It seems likely that partisans in both camps feel strongly that their side is the true one and the other is misguided at best or, more likely, narrowly self-interested or even malevolent. It is my own opinion, however, that powerful economic interests mostly hidden from view are actually pulling the strings, and a large section of the population has been duped by an avalanche of lies, many of which manipulate and agitate latent themes of victimization, powerlessness, and rage.

The national conversation on most issues echoes the two opposing political perspectives, giving equal weight to each. More often than not, however, this discussion is a distraction from the underlying truth. If one looks at the Republican side of every argument, the real beneficiaries are the large corporate interests who donate to right-wing politicians and who subsidize a blizzard of propaganda through astro-turf interest groups, through well-publicized but very controversial “scientific findings”, through special interest advertising, and, of course, through FOX news.

Let us remember that it is big oil that pays for the bogus global-warming-is-a-hoax studies. Let us remember it was the defense industry that benefited from the false weapons-of-mass- destruction excuse for the Iraq War. Let us consider how the health care and insurance industries fought the health care legislation and benefited from the false “death panel” fear-mongering and other nonsense put forth during the health care debate. Let us understand that it is Corporate America and the super wealthy that benefit from the repeatedly disproven lies about how low taxes and deregulation strengthen the economy. And finally, let us remember that it is Corporate America that benefits from crushing unions, the last hold-out of big Democratic spending, so that their Republican patsies can pass corporate-friendly legislation with less and less opposition. It is likely that most Republicans who take the corporate side in these arguments believe the arguments they spout in defense of their policies, but that is nothing more than a tribute to the success of the billions of dollars the global corporations have poured into convincing and subsidizing them.

From an astrological perspective, the next six years will see many more battles in this highly partisan American civil war, as well as significant global upheaval and transformation due to environmental, political, economic, and social factors. We are already feeling the building tensions of the very volatile Uranus/Pluto square (active from 2011 through 2016, exact from 2012 through 2015), as evidenced across the Middle East and, now, in Wisconsin. Generally speaking, this planetary configuration describes a revolutionary fervor among large groups of people attempting to break the hold of powerful institutional and vested interests on their lives. It is useful to remember the Uranus/Pluto conjunction of the 1960’s included the tumultuous Civil Rights Movement, the Women’s Liberation Movement, the anti-war movement, the birth of the hippie/drug culture, and the shattering and culturally-altering assassinations of Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy. The coming square is likely to bring equally powerful societal upheaval and change in the US, especially since the Uranus/Pluto square will be in an exact aspect to the US Sun in 2014.

With the current union dispute erupting now in Wisconsin and fomenting similar situations in other states, it is useful to look at some further astrological configurations that are playing out within the larger framework of the Uranus/Pluto square and that describe specific periods of agitation. The first of these, and one very relevant to the present situation, is the progressed US Sun (6 to 7 Pisces) square to progressed Uranus (7Gemini02), active from November 2010 through November 2011 and then waning. This aspect describes sudden, precipitous events that arouse and awaken the public into some kind of resistance or general agitation. With natal Uranus in the US 6th house of work and health, much of the turmoil will relate to labor issues, unemployment, work conditions, or health care.

This progressed US Sun square to progressed Uranus is particularly potent at present due to the transiting Pluto station (7 Capricorn) in quincunx to progressed Uranus and sextile progressed Sun from January 28 through May13, 2011. With transiting Jupiter (6 to 7 Aries) moving into a square with transiting Pluto over the next week, from February 20 to February 25, and a Sun/Mercury conjunction at 7 Pisces conjunct US progressed Sun on February 24 to 25, we can expect dramatically increasing turmoil over the coming week as the showdown in Wisconsin builds and spreads to other parts of the country before it is resolved, possibly on the 26th.

As noted, the prolonged Pluto trigger to the Sun/Uranus energy goes through mid-May 2011 and therefore includes the highly stressful period likely from March 20 through mid-April I have discussed repeatedly in previous articles. This configuration simply adds yet another indication of unexpected and powerful events and a likely agitated response to them domestically. Likewise, the transiting Uranus square to US Venus from mid-April through mid-September 2011 will also come during the progressed Sun square to progressed Uranus. Although not directly triggering this progression, the Uranus transit square US Venus indicates another time period when another phase of this long simmering civil war between two completing versions of reality bursts out into the open, perhaps over economic or debt issues (Venus) at that time.

Needless to say, election year 2012 will include the usual vitriolic partisan strife with competing and aggressive attempts to claim a righteous control of the national narrative. But the ongoing partisan civil war is likely to continue to unfold after the election and into the next presidential term, as progressed US Sun moves into a square with natal Uranus (8Gemini55) from September 2012 through September 2013, fomenting more unrest and rebellion and attempts to break free of constraints.

We then move into transiting Uranus and Pluto in hard aspect to the US Sun in 2014 and 2015, when things are likely to fully erupt into some rather dramatic and widespread turmoil. As described above, many of these struggles will in actuality be a proxy war between the control of global corporate interests and the legitimate needs and rights of the population in the American version of democracy. The planetary configurations are unbelievably volatile and could manifest in any number of ways, with competing political positions on how to deal with various crisis situations ranging from climate change to terrorism to economic and social issues. But it will become increasingly important to be clear about what the underlying conflict is about and not get distracted with the superficial layer of policy discussion that often consumes the media. As the old saying goes, “If you call a devil by its name, you take away its power.”


  1. starlight says:

    I managed to get two out this week, but won’t be posting again until late next week. I think the progressed Sun square to progressed Uranus is an important aspect going on right now, especially as it is being strengthened at present by Pluto for a couple of months and Jupiter this coming week. And then the Sun/Mercury on the 24th and 25th. Things might come to a head then.

  2. Lorrie U says:

    Wow! What a great article, and very timely. Thanks so much for taking the time to get this out. I will post the link to all on my email list!

  3. Robert says:

    Thanks for writing more. I really appreciate the way you understand and communicate about these important dynamics.

  4. starlight says:

    Thank you Lorrie and Robert. Much appreciated. :-)

  5. starlight says:

    Article that pretty much sums up what Rachel said the other night: Republicans want to smash unions specifically to weaken Dems at the ballot box. Thank Heaven for Rachel’s successful shaping of the counter-narrative to the GOP lies.

  6. will says:


    Well-intuited, well-conceived, even better written. Indeed, we are living in interesting times.

    My own mother is a dyed-in-the-wool conservative Repug and starry-eyed disciple of Bill O’ and Gleen Beck. Imagine my shock when during one of our rare telephone conversations she said in a very sobering and woeful tone,

    “William, I think we are going to have a revolution in our country – I can feel it in my bones. What we saw in Egypt was nothing compared to what I feel we are going to see right in our own country. Too many people without and too few with everything – its a sin.”

    Politics aside, she is extraordinarily prescient.

    Power to the people.

  7. Pat C says:

    This is so right on starlight. So excellent.

  8. DPH says:

    Excellent article. We’re in for a wild ride.

  9. BC says:

    Starlight et al,

    Can you comment on the date 22 Apr 2014 to the USA chart ?

  10. Sharon says:

    So sad what is happening to nature –

    I guess these things have happened before mankind became involved and responsible — it is just hard not feel we are making it worse.

    Well, tomorrow is the old solar return (or, young, depending on how one looks at it) – First day of Pisces. I’m a little under the weather, I caught my husband’s cold so I’m not my often ebullent self. Family is having a birthday lunch for me (so nice of my sister-in-law) but we’re missing the morning event which is an early Mardi Gras parade at Children’s Hospital! Oh well.

    It’s also marred by the fact that someone in the extended family stepped on a land mine in Afghanistan and had to have his legs amputated. It’s the first time it’s touched so close to home.

    Great articles this week, Nancy! You are on a roll.

  11. Lorrie U says:

    Sharon, I’m sorry you’re not feeling well and to hear about your family member in Afghanistan.

    I hope you manage to have a Happy Birthday anyway with many blessings in the year ahead. If I calculate right, you’re in a #8 year so it’s a good time to go after what you want, you should succeed in getting it.

  12. Pat C says:

    Healing thoughts to you Sharon.


    More Republican “Respect” for the Workers


    The TPers have shown up to heckle. Imported of course.

  13. Pat C says:×460129

    Comment #2

    The rotunda now has an organized community

    Trash pickup, food bank, centralized information distribution centers, etc…. They got food delivery covered.

    Here’s an update on Ian’s that I just posted in the Wisconsin forum:

    People have been calling in pizza orders to Ian’s on State St all week from the around the country to have them delivered to protesters in the the Capitol rotunda. Today, it reached critical mass. I read this from a local Facebook friend (who I also saw today at the Square):

    “Ian’s Pizza on State has shut down operations to the public and is now only taking donation orders for pizza’s for the protesters. They have received pizza order donations from across the US, Eygpt, Europe – all around the world – to support the protesters. Unbelievable!”

    They apparently already have enough orders to deliver to the Rotunda to keep them busy all night. Keep in mind that this is a Saturday night, already one of their busiest.

    Via, via, via a bunch of people here in Madison.

  14. Pat C says:

    House votes to kill reporting system for assault-weapon sales

    The House voted overwhelmingly Friday to block the Obama administration from implementing a controversial proposal meant to give federal authorities a new tool to catch gunrunners to Mexico. -The Washington Post

  15. starlight says:

    BC – April 2014 looks like a month that will never be forgotten in this country. Something very big will be happening. Could be we will be at war suddenly or some other really dramatic national event will be going down. All four corners of the cardinal cross will be full, pretty close to the exact degree of the US Sun. One interesting part of this is that Jupiter will be just past crossing the US Sun, usually a sign of a burst of patriotic fervor. That can come after an attack of some kind that brings the country together. I am sure I will focus on it a lot as we get closer and I try to see who else’s charts are involved in the events. what ever it is will be big, big, big.

  16. Pat C says:

    Live stream from Madison Wisconsin

  17. Pat C says:

    Wisconsin Doctors Tell Teachers: Call in Sick to Continue Protests
    Feb. 19, 2011

    Some Wisconsin doctors threw their support behind teachers protesting the Republican governor’s efforts to strip unions of their bargaining powers, saying they would write sick notes for teachers to skip work to demonstrate. … .

  18. pam says:

    what a great article. thank you. what a full answer to my question, which am sure you were working on long before I asked, it was after all an obvious question for this forum. oh these interesting times we live in.
    will, find what you reported your mother saying as very intriguing. part of me wants to think that as the republicans get more and more aggressive (and greedy) the squeeze that will put on the middle class and the poor will become clearer and clearer. The tea party isn’t republican – it’s a bunch of scared people being lead by fools – but not all those scared people are dumb and some of them – like your mother (who can’t be dumb – she is your mother and like son like mother) – will slowly, perhaps, wake up and see who it is who is really doing this to them.

  19. Philips says:

    FWIW, notice that April 15, 2014, in addition to being Income Tax Day will also have a Total Lunar Eclipse visible throughout most of the U.S. except New England. Also, its Passover.

  20. michael from nyc says:

    This is an amazing article on the Boomers retiring and not having enough to live on:

    From the article: “Inevitably, we find that, for the average person, there is not enough there,” says financial adviser Paul Merritt of NTrust Wealth Management in Virginia Beach, Va., who has found himself advising many retirement-age people with too little savings. “The discussion turns out to be: What kind of part-time work do you want to do after you retire?” He has clients contemplating part-time work into their 70s, he says…”

    The main thing hitting the US that i can see is the debt of two wars coming in at the same time the Boomers are retiring — topped with a burst real estate bubble. There’s could be be a great deal of anger and finger pointing in the years to come. My hope is that the economy can pick up just a bit more to ease things.

  21. Prabhata says:

    Libya protests: 140 ‘massacred’ as Gaddafi sends in snipers to crush dissent

    Snipers shot protesters, artillery and helicopter gunships were used against crowds of demonstrators, and thugs armed with hammers and swords attacked families in their homes as the Libyan regime sought to crush the uprising.
    “Dozens were killed … We are in the midst of a massacre here,” a witness told Reuters. The man said he helped take victims to hospital in Benghazi.
    Libyan Muslim leaders told security forces to stop killing civilians, responding to a spiralling death toll from unrest which threatens veteran leader Muammar Gaddafi’s authority.
    Mourners leaving a funeral for protesters in the eastern city of Benghazi came under fire, killing at least 15 people and wounding many more. A hospital official said one of those who died was apparently struck on the head by an anti-aircraft missile, and many had been shot in the head and chest.
    The hospital was overwhelmed and people were streaming to the facility to donate blood. “Many of the dead and the injured are relatives of doctors here,” he said. “They are crying and I keep telling them to please stand up and help us.”

  22. angellight says:

    Starlight: Great analysis of our current situatio. You know when Obama first got elected, I intuitively thought of him as may be the reincarnation of Lincoln, there were so many similarities and now this — Civil War, really! It is Karmic. What will become of this and surely this (second) time around, it will be settled without the spill of blood. One hopes.

    I must twitter your article Civil War 2.0; more people should read this.

  23. angellight says:

    Will: Republican strategy, great article.

    Pat C: Beautiful, touching story on Pizza donations, even from around the world.

    Sharon: Happy B-day! Sorry to hear about your family member, blessings!

  24. angellight says:

    ‘One World, One Pain': From #Egypt to #Wisconsin #WI #wiunion #jan25

  25. Liber says:

    Dear Starlight, Patriotic fervor? Could the April 2014 possibly be another American Civil War? I shutter to think of such a thing…and pray not.

  26. karen says:

    Astounding piece, Nancy! WOW!

    And yes, thank YOU for the heads-up on the pizza donations, Pat C. Put my imagination in overdrive thinking of what we can send from this end.

    Michael, there are so many friends experiencing an overwhelming, forced impoverishment. Right now! One may be on homeless shortly. It’s astounding, this uncomprehending rhetoric of those who continue to grip onto the creed of greed.

  27. Marta says:–by-Kevin-Gosztola-110219-463.html

    In the final week of January, twelve anti-war, labor and international solidarity activists were expected to appear before a grand jury in Chicago. They refused to go before the grand jury.

    These activists from Chicago, the Twin Cities in Minnesota, and other areas have been subpoenaed over the past months. Several of the activists had their homes raided. Documents, cell phones, storage disks, computers, and children’s artwork were seized from their home. The subpoenas indicated the FBI was looking for evidence that the activists had provided “material support for terrorism.” And, recently, it was discovered that the FBI had an informant, who went by the name of “Karen Sullivan,” infiltrate an anti-war group in the Twin Cities.

    This “witch-hunt” began on September 24th and, since then, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald has been working to get activists to testify before a grand jury in Chicago. So far, all the activists have refused to participate in this “fishing expedition.”

    Coverage of WikiLeaks cables and the revolutions in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) especially Egypt interrupted my scheduled coverage of the injustice several are experiencing. I now intend to resume coverage in the midst of uprisings against repression in countries in the MENA. Also, today are conferences in New York City and Chapel Hill, North Carolina. Those involved will be updating those in attendance on the grand jury repression in the context of previous FBI witch hunts in US history.

    Now here is a profile of one of the activists:

  28. Marta says:

    hmmm, my comment is awaiting moderation …?

  29. Diane L says:

    Thank you very much for an excellent article, Starlight! We have an “interesting” Spring ahead of us, don’t we? As in the Chinese curse . . .

    Makes me very grateful I live in a “blue” state with a Dem Gov who IS willing to negotiate with the various employee unions. Wonder when the recall petitions are going to start circulating in Wisconsin.

  30. Curtis Lang says:

    Great article! As a journalist, editor and publsher for 30 years I really enjoy your informed take on political astrology.

    I think you’d also enjoy my most recent newsletter on the current full moon and the transition from the Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius, and how politics fits into the big picture.

    Here tis:

  31. Gypsi says:

    I read a sign at the wisconsin demonstration on cbs news this morning that said, impeachment is an option. Works for me.

    Thank you Starlight for 2 exceptional articles in one week. I sent links to my daughters, and I agree heartily with your ideas. We do indeed live in interesting times.

  32. Marta says:

    Israeli army targets and arrests children in order to repress Palestinian dissent in the West Bank

    by Joseph Dana on February 17, 2011 · 121 comments

    The following consolidates two posts from Joseph Dana’s blog on Israel’s horrifying practice of targetting children in order to quash protest in the West Bank. As the Middle East Children Alliance points out, “In the first two weeks of February 2011, 32 Palestinian children were arrested by Israeli authorities. This video and report from one village in the West Bank gives the world a glimpse into the real meaning of these numbers.”:

    …more and watch the video. Chilling.

  33. karen says:

    Sally posted this in Astroworld.

    This rap video speaks to me, to you, to all humans. We are coming. The few (1%) taking 90% of the wealth worldwide cannot continue.

    We are coming.

  34. Pat C says:

    Wisconsin Budget 101: The Numbers and the Stakes in the Public Employee Bill

    There’s been a lot of confusion about the Wisconsin budget picture and how it plays into this assault on collective bargaining rights for public employees, so it’s worth taking a look at the full picture to get the best sense of what’s happening and why.

    • Two budgets. Much like the federal level, where we are simultaneously talking about a continuing resolution for the 2011 fiscal year and the 2012 budget resolution, we have two separate processes happening at once in Wisconsin. The collective bargaining stripping is happening in a “budget repair bill.” This must be done under Wisconsin law if there is a shortfall in the current budget cycle, which covers the 2009-2011 fiscal years. That shortfall is relatively small, about $137 million for the rest of the year, which goes untul the end of June. There’s a much bigger shortfall, $3.6 billion, estimated for the next budget cycle, from July 2011 to June 2013. Wisconsin has a two-year budget cycle. The $3.6 billion seems large, but Wisconsin closed a gap twice as large in the last budget cycle, and didn’t strip public employee bargaining rights to do it.

    When you hear Scott Walker talk, he usually invokes the bigger number, the $3.6 billion, to justify his plans. But he’s putting those plans into a budget repair bill for the current fiscal cycle, not the 2011-2013 budget.

    More at the link….

  35. Bette says:

    “……Citizens United and the attack on unions are part of a larger plan. It is no stretch of the imagination to believe that that plan and the resources used to develop it have been and are funded in no small part by the Kochs and their allies, working in close coordination with a Republican party which now functions as their tool — Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, Cantor and the party itself:
    RANCHO MIRAGE, CALIFORNIA – A phalanx of sheriff’s deputies with riot gear fended off protestors and blocked all access to one of southern California’s most luxurious resort hotels on Sunday as more than 200 conservative donors gathered inside to plot political strategy and raise an estimated $30 million for the 2012 election.
    House Majority Leader Eric Cantor was among several members of Congress who flew in for the two-day event, a semi-annual meeting of political high-rollers sponsored by Charles and David Koch, the billionaire owners of Koch Industries, the giant, privately held oil firm based in Wichita, Kan. The Koch brothers, strong economic libertarians, have become two of the country’s biggest donors to conservative political groups and think tanks.
    The long-term planning to achieve full control of a government allied to their own interests continues. The attack on unions is just the latest step in that plan….”

  36. Pat C says:

    Al Arabiya: Expatriate Libyan & International Criminal Court Member Dr. Hadi Shalouf: “Reports that Gaddafi has left to Brazil or Venezuela”

  37. Prabhata says:

    Libya on the brink:

    AJE Libya blog:

    February 21
    12:11 am: Libya’s ambassador to China, Hussein Sadiq al Musrati, has just resigned on air with Al Jazeera Arabic. He called on the army to intervene, and has called all diplomatic staff to resign.

    He made claims about a gunfight between Gaddafi’s sons and also claimed that Gaddafi may have left Libya. Al Jazeera has no confirmation of these claims.

    February 20
    11:59 pm: Lebanese officials say Libya is jamming Lebanese TV stations because of their reporting on the crackdown on protesters in the North African country.
    11:54 pm: Further reports suggest the 500,000-strong Tuareg tribe in south Libya has heeded the call from the million-strong Warfala tribe to join the uprising.  Protesters in Ghat and Ubary, home to Libyan Tuareg clans are reportedly attacking government buildings and police stations.
    11:25 pm Online reports claim remaining pro-Gaddafi militia in Benghazi, around the Elfedeel Bu Omar compound, “are being butchered by angry mobs”.  It is impossible to verify the claims, though Al Jazeera has spoken with several people in the city who say protesters control the city, as security forces flee to the airport.

  38. Prabhata says:

    If Libya falls, Yemen may be next, imo. Oppressive dictators never learn.

  39. Cha says:

    Thank you, Nancy, for writing so knowledgeably and well informed on the situation in Wisconsin with Gov Walker’s edicts against the Public Workers. I’ve been reading about the events unfolding and am so thankful the Dems are doing everything they can politically to put a halt to the denial of workers rights by the Gov of Wisconsin and the other states who will be doing this especially if it works in Wisconsin. The protest signs are inspiring!


    Any thoughts on if the gop will shut down the government again? Thank you for your insight, Nancy~

  40. Lunagardener says:

    Starlight, I admire your ability to post such wonderful insights, in a consistent and birds eye view, of our journey for so many years. You are a source of intelligent and grounded commentary, so needed at this time. I extend my gratitude to those that post in an intelligent and open minded spirit.

    This is disturbing and off topic, perhaps, and I hate to be a downer, but I find it curious that the cycle peaked near the time of my birth, and continued through the years that my daughters were born.

    A Time-Lapse Map of Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945 – by Isao Hashimoto

    I think I may need assistance in processing this…..

  41. Cha says:

    Wow, sorry..the nice little post I had didn’t come out so well. Not sure what I did wrong but only half of it made it through.

    So, I will give you the link to the Wisconsin Protest signs here.

    And, a snip from the link that did make it ..hope it isn’t too confusing with two posts like this.

    “”With 12 days left until a possible, arguably likely, shutdown of the federal government, there’s quite a bit of talk this weekend over whether Republicans, just two months into the new Congress, will actually pull the proverbial trigger.

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has offered a sensible way out, keeping the status quo in place for just a few weeks, pushing the deadline from March 4 to March 31. The point would be to leave more room for negotiations, though GOP leaders quickly rejected Pelosi’s plan.

    The talk, not surprisingly, is dominating much of the Sunday shows this morning. Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) told “Face the Nation,” for example, he believes House Speaker John Boehner “seems to be on a course that would inevitably lead to a shutdown.”

    But while the wrangling continues, it’s also worth thinking about the eventual consequences of the shutdown that may come a week from Friday. Newt Gingrich and congressional Republicans shutdown the government twice during President Clinton’s first term, and while some government functions have changed in the 15 years since, the L.A. Times reflects on what happened last time to help set the stage for what might happen this time.”

    It’s probably my writing “snip” in the first post that got everything discombobulated..I won’t do that again. Thanks.

  42. lizzie says:

    Thank you Nancy for brilliant home run astro-analysis article.

    Where is the International Tribunal in the Hague or elsewhere standing up for and proclaiming our God given basic human rights and legally shutting down cruel Dictators brutal regimes and stopping the unconscionable blood shed of peaceful protestors.

  43. Cha says:

    A sign from Egypt on Wisconsin’s Worker Rights..


  44. Bob says:


    I think you may be right on. Too bad I can’t post the charts. Sibly, Battle of Bull Run (the first real battle of the Civil War), prog Sibly demi-solar demi-anlunar, noon transits for Apr 22, and a prog mundane lunar return. All charts located in Washington, D.C.

  45. Prabhata says:

    CNBC:Libyan Protesters Brave Bullets to Close in on Gaddafi

    Habib al-Obaidi, a surgeon at the Al-Jalae hospital, said the bodies of 50 people, mostly shot dead, were brought there on Sunday afternoon. Two hundred wounded had arrived, he said.
    “One of the victims was obliterated after being hit by an RPG (rocket propelled grenade) to the abdomen,” he said.
    Members of an army unit known as the “Thunderbolt” squad had brought wounded comrades to the hospital, he said. The soldiers said they had defected to the cause of the protesters and had fought and defeated Gaddafi’s elite guards.
    “They are now saying that they have overpowered the Praetorian Guard and that they have joined the people’s revolt,” another man at the hospital, lawyer Mohamed al-Mana, told Reuters by telephone.

  46. Prabhata says:

    Turmoil in the Middle East: Will Saudi Arabia be Next?| CNBC

    Saudi Arabia faces a problem that was a major driver of protests in Tunisia and Egypt to begin with: Youth unemployment. Data by the Central Department of Statistics & Information (CDSI) estimates that 39% of Saudis between the age of 20 and 24 were unemployed in 2009 – up from 28.5% in 2000. But in its most recent report, Saudi Banque Fransi adds that the Kingdom has an “enormous stash of oil wealth it can draw on to finance schemes to sooth popular frustrations without exerting too much strain on its budget”. Saudi Arabia held an estimated $440 billion in net foreign assets in 2010.
    Indeed, the political future of Saudi Arabia is far from certain. King Abdullah is 87 years old and has spent a lot of time abroad recently for treatment.

  47. Sharon says:

    Thank you to everyone for sending positive energy, healing thought, condolences for the accident (he is not a relative but we are all in shock) and birthday wishes my way and, yes, Laurie, I am going into a #8 year – and am excited about feeling more powerful (as soon as I kick this darn flu, but we’re both feeling better – we’ve been out all day). Kind of wondering what the effects of Neptune transiting and stationing on my sun are going to be, but, with the help of a #8 year, I hope to optimize them.

    Great stuff about the pizza orders!

    I raised some money on FB for my birthday cause – stopping the farming of cat and dog fur in China.

    Now I’m going back to read the Robert Reich article Will posted on Repubican strategies.

  48. Prabhata says:

    Krugman nails it. It’s about the right to collective bargaining, and power.

    But Mr. Walker isn’t interested in making a deal. Partly that’s because he doesn’t want to share the sacrifice: even as he proclaims that Wisconsin faces a terrible fiscal crisis, he has been pushing through tax cuts that make the deficit worse. Mainly, however, he has made it clear that rather than bargaining with workers, he wants to end workers’ ability to bargain.

    The bill that has inspired the demonstrations would strip away collective bargaining rights for many of the state’s workers, in effect busting public-employee unions. Tellingly, some workers — namely, those who tend to be Republican-leaning — are exempted from the ban; it’s as if Mr. Walker were flaunting the political nature of his actions.

  49. Prabhata says:

    My remedy for flu, and I’ve had very bad ones, is fresh ginger tea with lots of lemon juice and honey. Ginger clears the system of phlegm.

    Shred enough ginger and boil for maybe 5 min. I make it very strong, and if it’s too strong after is done, I add water. Any way, I drink the warm tea throughout the day. CAUTION: ask your doctor if taking medication, especially blood thinners or aspirin because ginger is a natural blood thinner.

  50. Prabhata says:

    Libya’s Green Square is a war zone after the speech from Seif Gaddafi according to a caller. One can hear the continuous sound of gunfire as he talks to the reporter from AJE.

  51. angellight says:

    Hitler ABOLISHED Unions in 1933!

    On May 2nd, 1933, the day after Labor day, Nazi groups occupied union halls and labor leaders were arrested. Trade Unions were outlawed by Adolf Hitler, while collective bargaining and the right to strike was abolished. This was the beginning of a consolidation of power by the fascist regime which systematically wiped out all opposition groups, starting with unions, liberals, socialists, and communists using Himmler’s state police.

    Fast forward to America today, particularly Wisconsin. Governor Walker and the Republican/Tea Party members of the state legislature are attempting to pass a bill that would not only severely punish public unions (with exception for the police, fire, and state trooper unions that supported his campaign), but it would effectively end 50 years to the right of these workers to collectively bargain.

    Collective bargaining is a process of voluntary negotiations between employers and trade unions aimed at reaching agreements which regulate working conditions. Collective agreements usually set out wage scales, working hours, training, health and safety, overtime, grievance mechanisms and rights to participate in workplace or company affairs. -wiki

  52. angellight says:

    Don’t guns kill? Isn’t the death penalty killing? Yet GOP are against killing fetuses. I guess its o k to kill adults!

  53. Pat C says:

    You don’t matter

    With a major protest of people coalescing around the union movement in Wisconsin, how many labor leaders were on yesterday’s chat shows?
    Same as usual, zero.

    Meanwhile our new Republican Congress has demonstrated its priorities. After voting to prevent funding Planned Parenthood for family planning, the same Congress moved to fund “family planning” for horses.

    Good to know where the American people stand with the Republican Party…well not standing really, more prostrate actually (not that many Democrats are much better).

  54. Prabhata says:

    Why isn’t Wall Street in jail?
    The last investigation with results, Madoff, was under G.W. DOJ. Was up with that?

  55. lizzie says:

    Such excellent posts from all in support of our Freedom Fighting sisters and brothers worldwide. In Paul Krugman’s seminal article, the last sentence is heart searing:
    “So will the attack on unions succeed?
    “I don’t know. But anyone who cares about retaining government of the people by the people should hope that it doesn’t”. What more can we do to help in Madison?? What is Ian’s phone #??
    Here is a Petition we can sign, thankfully:

  56. lizzie says:

    Ian’s Pizza near the beautiful (replica of DC) Capitol is 608-257-9248
    It is very popular on google:)

  57. Pat C says:

    Make Corporations Pay Their Fair Share

    “Enjoying record profits and taxpayer-funded bailouts as the economy slowly recovers from a financial crisis, nearly two-thirds of US corporations don’t pay any income taxes, instead opting to abuse tax loopholes and offshore tax havens. According to this study from the non-partisan Government Accountability Office, 83 of the top 100 publicly traded corporations that operate in the US exploit corporate tax havens. Since 2009, America’s most profitable companies such as ExxonMobil, General Electric, Bank of America and Citigroup all paid a grand total of $0 in federal income taxes to Uncle Sam. Tax havens alone account for up to $1 trillion in tax revenue lost every decade, money that could be invested in K-12 education, colleges, public health, job creation and hundreds of other worthy public programs.”

    First Day of Action is February 26.

  58. Andre says:

    Starlight, great times demand great writing. It is clear we are entering great times of profound upheaval. It is also clear your writing is rising to a new level. You are now in my view one of the best astrologers in the world today and the best political astrologer in the US.

    We are getting a better view of the Aquarian Age. Watson, an IBM computer, just won Jeopardy. We are now told there are fifty billion planets in our galaxy, the Milky Way, which is itself only one of countless galaxies. And people on our home planet are rising for freedom and dignity in increasing numbers on different continents. These are all Aquarian themes.

  59. Pat C says:

    Wisconsin labor unrest spills across Lake Michigan

    The AFL-CIO is planning a protest Tuesday in Lansing, Michigan. This follows ongoing labor unrest in Wisconsin and Ohio over plans to reform public sector collective bargaining rules…. …

    These protests “probably have to roll out [through the region],” says labor expert Robert Bruno at the University of Illinois, in Champaign.

    “If you’re engaged in progressive politics, you’re part of the labor movement, and you’re looking at a real threat to your ability to function and to your very existence, it does call out strong resistance.”

  60. judigem says:

    Andre, speaking of our new Aquarian Age, BBC is going to start a program about the Universe hosted by Brian Cox, a Brit physicist. (also one of People Magazine’s 50 most beautiful people). It starts Mar 6…check your guide for it. He will be talking about the Universe from beginning to end…when it all just disappears. Which is what I wish would happen to these corporate shill slimebags ….. if Nancy’s is ok with this, I’d say we could be looking at REAL civil war in 2014?

    The world energy has been do difficult for me to handle that I just shut up and went away. WI and Egypt and the other middle east protests actually have energized me though….WI’s fight is very very uplifting.

    Will, your mother might be the polar opposite of me in philosophy and politics, but I have the same feeling in my bones….

    Hi everyone….

  61. Andre says:

    Pam, in answer to your question in the last thread, Neptune and Uranus are now at opposite ends of my third house. I often write on political issues and the rights of native peoples I represent as a lawyer. As I live in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, my first language is French and have so far been published in that language. I do hope to be published in English some day.

    Starlight, I wanted to add that you have made so much clearer that what we are witnessing in Wisconsin and no doubt in Egypt and elsewhere is class warfare. If we don’t see that for what it is, humanity loses. And that applies to every country, including China. Those countries with the greatest inequalities will become more unstable in the next few years. Those that choose fascism as a way out, religious fascism as in Iran or some other form, will be dangerous to themselves and to the world, and only cause more suffering. I hope the US does not go that way. Beyond 2014, there will be the Uranus square to the US Pluto, the Saturn-Pluto conjunction in Capricorn near the US Pluto, the US Pluto return and the Uranus return which has so far brought war to the US every time. Will your country be in one piece at the end of all this?
    As a loving neighbour, I worry for you and for the world and will wish you the best every day.

  62. Andre says:

    Judigem, thank you. I will try to catch the BBC program.

  63. Pat C says:

    When a Country Goes Insane by Robert Freeman

    “This must be what it’s like when a country goes insane, when it falls down a rabbit hole and tries to pretend that everything is normal.

    “It can’t tell truths from lies. Hucksters pose as upright men, and people imagine they are Solons, avatars of insight come down from the ages. Sleazy operators pass themselves off as statesmen, as thinkers of deep gravitas, and the crowds, unable to distinguish sanctimony from sincerity, bravado from bullshit, lap it up.

    “Let’s be clear. It was the Republicans who wrecked the economy. Both their people and their policies drove the economy into the ditch. They wrecked the economy not once, but twice in the last eighty years.

    “So Republicans condescending to instruct Americans about how to fix the economy is like the captain of the Titanic lecturing shipping operators about safe procedures for navigating the north Atlantic. No sane society would tolerate it. But this one does.

    How bad is it this time?

    “Six million people have lost their jobs. Twenty five million are underemployed. Many will never work again. Eight trillion dollars of middle class wealth has been destroyed in the housing collapse. One out of four mortgage holders are under water, owing more on their home than it’s worth. Fifty million people are living in poverty. One out of eight Americans are on food stamps. One of every two children will be on food stamps at some point in their lives.

    “And the rich? Corporate profits are at an all-time high. But corporate taxes — not the imaginary “nominal” rates they whine so bitterly about, but the taxes actually paid — are among the lowest in the industrial world. Income inequality is at its highest level since 1917. Between 2000 and 2006, two thirds of all the growth in the entire economy went to the top 1%. And the “too big to fail” banks, those that wrecked the economy and extorted trillions of dollars from the government to rescue them? They are now even bigger.”

  64. Pat C says:


  65. DPH says:

    Judigem! So good to see you! I, too, have found the current state of affairs very disturbing- each day bringing some new atrocity from the Tea Party House of Representatives, the Koch brothers, et al. But with the fight for basic rights underway from Egypt to Wisconsin, we can only hope that people are finding their voices to fight back.

    Thanks for the info about the BBC program… sounds great.

    Also, Andre, I always enjoy reading your posts. I worry a lot about the next few years across the globe and here in the U.S, particularly in 2014. Thank you for your neighborly concern! I wish some Canadian reasonableness and politeness would cross the border and improve our public discourse!

  66. Prabhata says:

    if Nancy’s is ok with this, I’d say we could be looking at REAL civil war in 2014?

    It’s great to see your comment. If there’s a civil war, it would mean that the situation is so desperate, as we see in the Middle East, with people, that even educated ones, are unemployed at alarming rates. Not that I disagree, but it would be much better if we could force through general strikes (the two parties have already failed, imo) to demand that corporations and the rich pay their fair share of taxes. General strikes can bring any government to its knees without any blood shed. Maybe it doesn’t have to be a work strike at first, but how about a week of no shopping, no driving except to work, no eating (good to clean the system)… It can be done by state and then nationally.

  67. judigem says:

    Andre, I’m 1/2 Canadian ….my grandmother (and my mother) was from Cape Breton Isl. and she died in Quebec. Except for the cold, I wish I lived there now. If the congress stonewalls the gov and we are shut down, I can’t pay my rent….bringin’ it home big time. It will be marching time again (being a marcher in the 60’s, it is deja vu all over again). I keep thinking that Kent State is just one insane order by a fascist governor away from repeating.

    For everyone interested in generational planetary patterns, there is an interesting online book called Generational Patterns Using Astrology ….if you google it, it will come up…the pages take some time to download, but it will give you exact dates for times past where the planetary patterns can be tracked along with people and events for whatever one is interested in.

  68. Teresa Hill says:


    A global oil crisis due to huge unrest in the middle east… that could be the big, bad thing you see in the spring?

    Maybe if we’re lucky, we’ll see Democracy spreading quickly in the region and the oil markets stabilize. And maybe see the need to push even harder to be less dependent on oil in the future.

  69. judigem says:

    Teresa, the global oil crisis is directly related to all the rest of this, I believe…..

  70. Fe says:

    judigem – do you have the link for what you wrote about?

  71. Pat C says:

    The New Normal: Deficit Debate Reigns Supreme Among Washington Establishment

    I’m sure some chin-scratchers saw E.J. Dionne’s thesis today as controversial:

    “Take five steps back and consider the nature of the political conversation in our nation’s capital. You would never know that it’s taking place at a moment when unemployment is still at 9 percent, when wages for so many people are stagnating at best and when the United States faces unprecedented challenges to its economic dominance.

    No, Washington is acting as if the only real problem the United States confronts is the budget deficit; the only test of leadership is whether the president is willing to make big cuts in programs that protect the elderly; and the largest threat to our prosperity comes from public employees.

    Take five more steps back and you realize how successful the Tea Party has been. No matter how much liberals may poke fun at them, Tea Party partisans can claim victory in fundamentally altering the country’s dialogue.”

    I don’t know if you can attribute this to Tea Party partisans or their very partisan corporate funders. For the conversation in Washington is invariably tilted toward the latter. And this has been happening in global capitals around the world which have no Tea Party presence. Summing up how the Germans are falsely viewing the eurozone crisis, Paul Krugman writes, “deficits, which are overwhelmingly the result of the crisis, have been retroactively deemed its cause.” This frees governments from the responsibility to account for their own failings and to take on powerful interests at the root of the problem. So it makes things much easier for them. You can claim this as a victory for the Tea Party if you want, but really it’s a victory for the establishment. The Tea Party just happens to be a useful group of dupes for this project.

    More at the link….

  72. will says:

    Pat C.,

    Thank you for posting E.J.Dionne’s editorial. I’d say he’s on to something very significant.

    Its the lobbyists, the bankers, the CEOs and the CFOs who have to go – they predatory in their practices and intentions.

    If you need millions of dollars for your work and to feel good about yourself, you’ve got a hole in your psyche and in your soul that has no bottom and will never be filled from the outside-in; its got to grow like a properly healing wound – from the inside out.

    Good to see you back, JudiGem.

  73. Prabhata says:

    I’m not sure that Governor Scott Walker will lose the current fight against the unions.

    Scott Walker
    Born: November 2 1967 (no time)
    Colorado Springs, CO

  74. Prabhata says:

    Christchurch New Zealand was hit by 6.3 earthquake. Damages and injuries are reported.

  75. Prabhata says:

    Huckabee calls Barbour ‘impeccable’ on race issues|CNN

    “I’m not going to criticize Haley,” said Huckabee, who called Barbour a friend and labeled him “the smartest political mind in America today” and “a sheer genius of political strategy.”


  76. Squallo says:

    Hi Nancy and all

    I have been following the latest developments around the world, and it seems that the revolutionary fervor it’s evolving, and i´m curious to know if you see big uprisings or revolts in the coming years for my country Mexico, that besides being in the middle of the drug wars, it could potentially get uglier like in Libya right now. I believe that the coming big ups from here on to 2014-15 are a big global war or revolution, or both.

    PS this is the best astrology forum I have seen.

  77. Pat C says:

    will, take a look here.

    The Koch Brothers’ End Game in Wisconsin

  78. Lorrie U says:

    Pat C – thanks for all the posts, but the above Koch Bros. End Game in Wisconsin is chilling. It must go viral.

  79. barbk says:


    I’ve only heard this news of the earthquake on the BBC television news, nothing so far from the networks. Where did you get your info?

  80. Ardy says:

    Yes, more devastating natural disaster news in the Southern Hemisphere with an earthquake in Christchurch, New Zealand. People trapped in buildings & fears of numbers of deaths.

  81. Ardy says:

    I watched that piece by Maddow someone linked and thought it was terrific. She (& Starlight :) ) are so on the money re the moves to try to crush the unions. It must not be allowed to happen.

  82. Prabhata says:

    barbk, I read the story here:
    Christchurch earthquake|MarketWatch

  83. Sharon says:

    So what it comes down to is the Left hates/distrusts corporate power and Right supposedly hates/distrusts the Government. Who are the bad guys and who are the good guys? Or is it really that black and white?

  84. Sharon says:

    So I’ve gone into an 8 year yesterday and spent today on insurance and taxes. Neptune is going to station on my sun in the coming months and what am I going to do? Go on a family cruise for my mother-in-law’s 90th BD (we can’t do it without $$ help but it’s hard to say no to this auspicious occasion)

  85. Sharon says:

    Thoughts & prayers with Christchurch, NZ. May those still alive be rescued, including all animal. In God’s hands.

  86. Gypsi says:

    We live in interesting times. For every win the corporate interests behind the tea party achieves, as Pluto and Uranus dance, and the aquarian age approaches, another coil goes on the noose. I think that the potential for human evolution, while not painless, is present. And that our societies will be fundamentally changed by 2020. I have been cheering for Wisconsin since last Monday.

    Texas teachers and environmentalists will go to Austin and visit the Capital, as our education system is on the brink of going from under-funded to glorified babysitting, between march 12th and March 15th. I may go, but work will still pull priority.

  87. Gypsi says:

    *The noose for corporate ownership of earth and her peoples.

  88. Sharon says:

    Can’t win but for losing. We worked so hard to let the truth get out about Bush – sooo hard – and we finally come into power with a landmark election – where did we go wrong? Not create enough jobs? Or is it all playing out the way it was meant to? This may be short sighted of me but all I can think about is that Rove knew we would take the fall. And the sheeple keep believing the lie and vote for it.

  89. Prabhata says:

    brbk, I don’t have cable, but CNN International
    is available with internet and covering the earthquake in NZ

    The damage is horrific and people are shaken. Known casualties are in the mid 60s, but there are reports of people trapped.

  90. Prabhata says:

    For those who want to create a chart for the earthquake in Christchurch, it hit at 12:51 PM local time, February 22.

  91. Pat C says:

    Video of the earthquake on line

    Lorrie U, I hope you send it everywhere.

  92. michael from nyc says:

    Sharon don’t feel bad, there’s never any loss in fighting the good fight. The problem is that the mess caused by the Bush admin will take years to overcome — also I sense that we’re trying to fix some issues that date to the Reagan era. I also think that Obama has made some progress if you look at health insurance — in fact that’s why we’re seeing the angry backlash from the other side. But as bad as things may seem the old ideas from the other side just won’t hold up — and a new progressive generation is coming on the scene. So don’t give up, the fight is far from over…

  93. Prabhata says:

    euronews: Demands grow for Yemen’s leader to go
    21/02 23:53 CET

    Demands for Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh to resign have for the first time reached the northern city of Sa’dah.
    Thousands turned out with banners condemning his regime and calling for his three-decade rule to end. Opposition parties have warned if the leader doesn’t respond he will face the same fate as the toppled rulers of Egypt and Tunisia. So far most of the demonstrations have been in the capital, Sanaa, but a teenager is said to have died in clashes with soldiers in Aden.


  94. angellight says:

    Let us not forget the history of a very dark past, when….

    On May 2nd, 1933, the day after Labor day, Nazi groups occupied union halls and labor leaders were arrested. Trade Unions were outlawed by Adolf Hitler, while collective bargaining and the right to strike was abolished. This was the beginning of a consolidation of power by the fascist regime which systematically wiped out all opposition groups, starting with unions, liberals, socialists, and communists using Himmler’s state police.

    Fast forward to America today, particularly Wisconsin. Governor Walker and the Republican/Tea Party members of the state legislature are attempting to pass a bill that would not only severely punish public unions (with exception for the police, fire, and state trooper unions that supported his campaign), but it would effectively end 50 years to the right of these workers to collectively bargain.

    Collective bargaining is a process of voluntary negotiations between employers and trade unions aimed at reaching agreements which regulate working conditions. Collective agreements usually set out wage scales, working hours, training, health and safety, overtime, grievance mechanisms and rights to participate in workplace or company affairs. -wiki

    And that is why, GOP have been steadily getting rid of manufacturing jobs, which has hurt all of Americans, to disemble the Unions and make them powerless.

  95. angellight says:

    Dr. Jeffrey Sachs did a tremendous job today on Morning Joe explaining about Koch Brothers; Fraud at the Pentagon and Defense; and the high costs of medical due to high costs of medical treatment and drugs.

  96. Pat C says:

    Here’s the list we’ve been looking for.

    Supporting the Protesters in Madison

  97. Bette says:

    In State after State, from Texas to Maine to wherever it is Republicans are in control, you are seeing implemented a “Shock and Awe” shock doctrine that is exploiting the current economic crisis to achieve the goals of the wealthy patrons of elected Republicans. This is making the crisis worse. And remember, these deficits, this economy, this is all a crisis create by the Republicans themselves. Their policies suck and outrage people, and then the Republicans run on the outrage they have caused! It is a cycle, a 3 card monte game where you are always going to get screwed unless you are Too Big To Fail.

  98. Pat C says:

    Here is the clip of Dr Jeffery Sachs on Morning Joe.

  99. angellight says:

    Pat C: Thanks for that link.

  100. barbk says:

    Probhata, others,

    Using the info you provided I did a chart for the 6.3 earthquake in New Zealand. Wikipedia says “The name of Christchurch was agreed on at the first meeting of the (Canterbury) association on 27 March 1848.

    It also says “Christchurch became a city by Royal Charter on 31 July 1856.” I found the 1848 (Astrodienst) ephemeris more in synch than the ephemeris for the 1856 date regarding the chart for the Feb 22 2011 Christchurch quake chart.

    In the 1848 chart the Sun is at 6 Aries 27 (00:00 UT) while the quake chart has Jupier at 6 Aries 10 square Pluto at 6 Cap 57. Also the Moon in the 1848 chart is somewhere between 24 Sag and 6 Cap.

    The 1848 chart had Neptune at 1 Pisces 23 (and Venus at 5 Pisces 52) as the transiting Quake chart has the 4 planets, Sun, Mercury, Mars, Neptune, all conjunct between 2 Pisces 59 and 28 Aquarius 33.

    Also, the 1848 chart has the north node at 0 Libra (south node 0 Aries) and the quake chart nodes are square, at 0 Capricorn/Cancer.

    There is an interplay between the Mars at 17 Gemini, Uranus at 17 Aries and Saturn at 18 Pisces in the 1848 chart that transiting Saturn at 16 Libra 36 rx in the quake chart sets off, triggered by transiting Moon which had reached 24 Libra 09 by the time the quake hit.

    Transiting Moon was also opposed the 1848 Pluto at 25 Aries 56.

    Finally, The Ascendant for the Feb 22 quake chart is 10 Taurus, while the 1848 chart’s Chiron at 10 Scorpio 19 is on the quake chart’s descendant.

  101. barbk says:

    Should have added Chiron to the group of transiting planets that are conjunct the 1848 Neptune as it started the parade!

  102. Pat C says:

    Notorious Pro-Corporate Group ALEC’s Hidden Role in Stoking Class War in Wisconsin and the Rest of America

    The American Legislative Executive Council works behind the scenes, using state-legislative stooges to implement the agenda of giant corporations and the super-rich.

    ALEC has unprecedented influence in Washington and state capitols throughout the country.

    According to Jonathan Williams, ALEC’s fiscal policy director,

    “Wisconsin has become ground zero.” He adds, “What happens could serve as a domino, win or lose, in either direction.”

    More at the link…

  103. Pat C says:

    By the way, there’s more. ALEC’s ‘governing’ board:

    Private Enterprise Board, whose “officers” are:

    Kurt L.Malmgren – PhRMA; Jerry Watson – American Bail Coalition; Scott Fisher – Altria Corporate Services, Inc.; Pete Poynter – BellSouth Corporation; Edward D. Failor, Sr – Iowans for Tax Relief; Michael K.Morgan – Koch Industries, Inc; Allan Auger – Coors Brewing Company; Ronald F. Scheberle – Verizon Communications, Inc.

  104. Pat C says:

    Live stream just started in Madison State House.

  105. Pat C says:

    The Koch brothers ginne dthis up so they can buy the state-owned pwer plants. That’s the reason for the no retreat.

    The Koch Brothers end game has noting to do with unions

    So in short:
    1) Koch Brothers get their puppet Governor Walker in power
    2) Governor Walker gins up a crisis
    3) Democrats and Progressives take the bait and counter-protest on collective bargaining
    4) Governor Walker will compromise on collective bargaining if the rest of the budget is passed as is
    5) Bill passes, with trojan horse give-a-way to the Koch Brothers nested in
    6) Koch Brothers will buy Wisconsin state-owned power plants for pennies on the dollar in closed unsolicitated bids for which there will be no oversight
    7) Koch Brothers get the best vertical monopoly in a generation
    Want proof here’s the text int he bill:

    State of Wisconsin
    Google Quick View of PDF:
    Bottom of Page 23:
    SECTION 44. 16.896 of the statutes is created to read: 16.896 Sale or contractual operation of state−owned heating, cooling, and power plants. (1) Notwithstanding ss. 13.48 (14) (am) and 16.705 (1), the department may sell any state−owned heating, cooling, and power plant or may contract with a private entity for the operation of any such plant, with or without solicitation of bids, for any amount that the department determines to be in the best interest of the state. Notwithstanding ss. 196.49 and 196.80, no approval or certification of the public service commission is necessary for a public utility to purchase, or contract for the operation of, such a plant, and any such purchase is considered to be in the public interest and to comply with the criteria for certification of a project under s. 196.49 (3) (b).

  106. Pat C says:

    Wisconsin Senate GOP Resumes Business

    NYT February 22

    MADISON, Wis. — With the Capitol braced for another week of protests and deadlock over a budget bill that would severely restrict public employees’ unions here, the top Republican in the State Senate announced that the body would resume consideration of other matters.

    Starting Tuesday, those senators, who are in Illinois, will have to watch from afar as Republicans continue the work of governing without them, taking up matters from the mundane to the controversial.

    The State Assembly is to begin debate on the budget bill on Tuesday morning. The debate was expected to take much of the day, if not longer, with Democrats warning that they may introduce numerous amendments. And there were many questions but few new insights about how the Senate impasse would end and what legislation the Republicans were prepared to pass in the meantime.

    At issue is a normally obscure Senate rule that requires a quorum of 20 senators to vote on fiscal matters but just 17 to vote on other matters. There are 19 Republicans and 14 Democrats in the Senate.

    However, shutting down speculation to the contrary, Mr. Fitzgerald pledged not to take any action on any part of the budget bill until the Democrats returned.

    “They can vote on anything that is nonfiscal,” said Senator Jon Erpenbach, a Democrat, from his hotel across state lines. “They can take up their agenda; they can do whatever they choose to do.”

    Mr. Erpenbach said that his caucus was determined not to return until the restrictions to collective bargaining were off the table.

    But he worried aloud about what legislation could emerge in the meantime.

  107. Pat C says:

    Over the protests of thousands of union workers, Indiana Republicans are pushing ahead with a bill that could incite the same kind of legislative stalemate that has frozen Wisconsin’s state government.

    The bill — House Bill 1468 — is called the “right to work” bill by supporters but the “right to work for less” bill by opponents. It would bar companies and unions from negotiating contracts that would require those who don’t join the union to kick in fees for representation.{2C6B88B6-E0F8-458A-8A93-AF339F7C540A}&bt=171880495

    Very interesting read…

  108. angellight says:


    “The monsters aren’t Wisconsin’s public employees whose right to collective bargaining has helped their families lead middle-class lives, and who have repeatedly declared their willingness to return to the table and negotiate a shared sacrifice. The monsters are on Wall Street, where state pension funds were sunk into toxic sub-prime mortgage-backed securities. The monsters are on K Street, where lobbyists are fighting financial industry oversight. The monsters are the politicians who are using Wisconsin’s deficit as a pretext to demonize public employees and bust their unions.
    If you look at the budget that House Republicans just passed, if you listen to the “so be it” language of their leadership, you’d think that the federal deficit is caused by the very people who who’ve been suffering the most in this recession.

    But the monsters aren’t low-income pregnant women and mothers who can’t afford adequate nutrition for their families; or sick Americans who can’t find health insurance to cover them; or blue-collar workers who want to retire at an age when there’s still some life left in their bodies; or students who can’t afford college without Pell Grants; or people who think their government’s job includes preventing their air and water from poisoning them.

    Sitting on the hilltop, watching Americans turn one another into bogeymen, evading scrutiny and responsibility, are the real sources of our distress.

    They’re the bankers who’ve extorted trillions of public treasure, blowing up the deficit while awarding themselves inconceivably fat bonuses.

    They’re the billionaires who’ve benefited from a massive transfer of wealth from the middle to the top, and whose political puppets protect them from paying their fair share of taxes.

    They’re the corporations whose cash has convinced Congress to deregulate industry after industry, despite all evidence that it is the enforcement of rules — not the magic of the marketplace — that protects the public’s rights.

    They’re the defense contractors and pork appropriators who’ve used the cover of “national security” to shield the Pentagon’s budget and its procurement process from the cuts and reforms that even Republicans like the Secretary of Defense are advocating.

    They’re the front groups and propagandists, like FreedomWorks and Fox, who use class warfare and culture wars in order to turn Americans against their own economic interests.

    They’re the Supreme Court justices whose Citizens United decision, overthrowing a century of settled law, has made our campaign finance system an open sewer, and whose indifference to conflicts of interest in a coming case promises to throw sick people back onto the tender mercies of insurers and to destroy our best hope to curb Medicare costs – further ballooning the deficit and providing cover for even more draconian cuts.

    The game in Washington is to use the deficit as camouflage for destroying government’s capacity to promote the general welfare. The game in Wisconsin and other states whose new Republican governors and legislative majorities are feeling their oats is to shelter the income of the wealthiest, and to balance the budget on the backs of the middle class.”

  109. angellight says:

    Pat C: From what I understand, the Indianapolis Dems had to flee to Illinois. There has to be a Democratic Governor, so you can’t get arrested.

  110. angellight says:

    Gov. Walker, may have shut down some Internet Access; article on

  111. Prabhata says:

    Thanks. I will add that information to the many earthquake chart collection I have. I’ve found Uranus is an important element in earthquakes, as well as Chiron.

  112. Prabhata says:

    Four Americans Killed on Pirated Yacht off Somalia

    Pirates shot dead four American hostages on a yacht they had seized in the Arabian Sea, and a firefight left two pirates dead and 13 captured, the U.S. military said on Tuesday.
    “The U.S. warship shot in the head two of my comrades who were on the deck of the yacht by the time they alerted us,”  Mohamud said. “This is the time we ordered the other comrades inside yacht to react—kill the four Americans because there was no other alternative—then our line got cut.”

    In 2009 the U.S. Navy was successful with its rescue from pirates. Not this time.

  113. Starlight says:

    I am posting from my iPhone on the train. Truly I am in the 21st century now. :-)

    Barb – nice find about the earthquake! Looks like new Zealand is the first casualty of Jupiter Pluto square. Given what is happening in the world, it will be a lot of energy to absorb this week.

  114. Pat C says:

    CaliforniaLabor: New on Labor’s Edge: In Wisconsin, Shades of the Thirties

    CNN confirms Pro-union website blocked in Wisconsin state Capitol
    Another sign of day nominee.

  115. Pat C says:

    CaliforniaLabor: New on Labor’s Edge: In Wisconsin, Shades of the Thirties

  116. Pat C says:

    CNN confirms Pro-union website blocked in Wisconsin state Capitol
    Another sign of day nominee.

  117. Pat C says:

    Americans for Prosperity, partly created & funded by Kochs, will now run TV/radio ads in WI
    Same labor source says 500 or so protesters turned out at West Virginia state Capitol today to rally for labor rights

    To everyone finding new horrible details in this bill: THAT is why our senators fled. To give us this time. Keep searching.

    Florida governor Rick Scott passes on battle w FL unions on collective bargaining:

  118. JudiGem says:

    the update on NZ earthquake…got this from my friend from there … reminds me of SF bay area in Oct 1989…the dead are already more numerous than in the ’89 quake here.

  119. Pat C says:

    House Republicans cut funding to UN climate science body
    The Guardian – ‎Feb 21, 2011‎

    America is to cut off all funding to the United Nations climate science panel under sweeping Republican budget cuts that seek to gut spending on environmental protection.

    The funding ban to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) …

    Luetkemeyer’s amendment strips funds from global climate panel -St. Louis Post-Dispatch

  120. Lorrie U says:

    Pat C – “Here is the clip of Dr Jeffery Sachs on Morning Joe.”

    For the record, the link comes up but that clip is not there.

  121. JudiGem says:

    update Libya….genocide, bloodshed…they don’t think that americans get how bad it is….bloodbath. (MSNBC)

  122. Pat C says:

    Lorrie U, it is interesting. Here is the link, but the picture is different, and I just hope they didn’t edit it.

  123. JudiGem says: this seems to be a feed to the libya events from the dylan rattigan show.

  124. Pat C says:

    Thank you judi!

  125. Pat C says:

    Flying under the radar is the attack on Medicaid that is included in the collective bargaining bill.

  126. Pat C says:

    Why Monsanto Always Wins

    Mike Ludwig, Truthout:
    “The recent approval of Monsanto’s Roundup Ready alfalfa is one of most divisive controversies in American agriculture, but in 2003, it was simply the topic at hand in a string of emails between the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) and Monsanto.
    In the emails, federal regulators and Monsanto officials shared edits to a list of the USDA’s questions about Monsanto’s original petition to fully legalize the alfalfa.
    Later emails show a USDA regulator accepted Monsanto’s help with drafting the initial environmental assessment (EA) of the alfalfa and planned to ‘cut and paste’ parts of Monsanto’s revised petition right into the government’s assessment.”

    Here I thought we had gotten rid of Bush.

  127. Gypsi says:

    Bush is like bad food, he just keeps coming back up.

  128. starlight says:

    Squallo – Sorry your post remained in moderation so long. I have been away. Your question about Mexico got me looking at the Mexican chart from 1821. Pluto came very near a square to Mexico’s Sun last February and is now in full force through October, with a long station July through October 2011. This suggests the incredible struggle of the government to remain in control of the situation. Then Uranus will come to square the Sun beginning in March 2012 on and off for several months. This will bring some big sudden events that transform the landscape and maybe a grass roots rebellion against the situation.

    I have two times for that chart. The first is 6 PM which underlines the upheaval in 2011 and 2012 with the MC at 6 Capricorn and the Ascendant 9 Aries. The other time is 6:23, with 16 Aries Ascendant and 12 Cap MC which suggests more turmoil and transformation from June 2013 to January 2017.

    The short version is that the Mexican chart is hit hard by Uranus and Pluto for the coming few years and it could be quite a wild ride. The Sun, Mercury, Ascendant and Midheaven will be hit by hard aspects from both planets. It is only the timing that is not totally clear due to the 23 minute difference in birth time in the two possible charts.

  129. Bette says:

    There is a substantial amount of information on the internet exposing the Koch brothers, Koch Industries, Bush, Bush/Koch relations, Boehner, Cantor, the fiendish right-ruining of America, the political/economical manipulation, imprisonment, etc etc etc. The media is afraid to report, afraid for their lives. The detail written is so overwhelming, the events so clear, you have to check it out for yourselves. You can start with Koch and the links go on and on into the last ten years up to today’s union busting. You will understand what is happening today if you take the time to read all that is available. Money is power and Koch’s have the most! The goal, a visible dictator of the USA with slave labor. How ironic when the Middle East is attempting to rid dictators, the USA has given birth to one.

  130. Pat C says:

    No wonder Gov. Walker was in such a hurry to get his budget repair bill passed. Every day new stuff comes out about it.
    The labor issues were obvious and got all the attention for a while. But then people started uncovering the fact that the bill would hand the Walker administration sweeping powers to revamp Medicaid with little public and legislative input.
    Now a third piece of the 144-page bill is making headlines — a power grab some critics believe could be political payback to the conservative Koch brothers.
    The bill allows the Walker administration, without approval of the public services commission and without a competitive bidding process, to sell off or lease the state’s several dozen energy plants to private companies.
    The state can sell the energy plants “with or without the solicitation of bids, for any amount that the department determines to be in the best interest of the state,” according to the rather circular wording of this clause, which then concludes that “any such purchase is considered to be in the public interest.”

    More at the link….

  131. Pat C says:

    Another dot connected. I wondered why a Democrat like Obama would promote “clean coal”.


    Without pipeline’s OK, $2.6B Rockport project could be doomed

    “Indiana’s Senate has handed Gov. Mitch Daniels a setback on the big coal gasification plant he wants to see built at Rockport.

    “Senators rejected a measure that would have cleared the way for a special pipeline sought by investors to move carbon dioxide away from the southwestern Indiana plant to buyers on the Gulf Coast.”


    “The defeat is considered a setback for investors and a coal industry counting on a grand energy strategy backed by some of the wealthiest names in American finance, including Goldman Sachs and General Electric Financial.

    “Plans call for rendering millions of tons of sulfurous Midwestern coal into natural gas, using GE gasifiers in some of the proposed plants in Indiana, Illinois and Kentucky.

    “The Texas-based company sells tons of C02, as the waste is called, to gas drillers probing under the Gulf of Mexico.”

    Not the Koch brothers, but the same.

  132. Prabhata says:

    A member of the Energy and Environmental Affairs Committee, where Senate Bill 72 originated, Tallian said Denbury, a pipeline operator, wanted eminent domain asserted almost anywhere in the state it chose to run a pipeline.

    But the company never gave her a satisfactory reason for why it had no specific route or needed statewide rights, she said.

    Pat C,
    Evidently the GOP senators in Indiana read the bills and question blank checks. Good for them and I hope they don’t give the company a blank check to build a pipeline anywhere. More importantly, it’s good to see a senate do its job, even if from the same party as the executive. I wish the Democrats in Washington had done their job when they were given the chance. Instead the Democrats acted like the GOP under Dubya.

  133. pam says:

    We’re in for an overwhelming ride aren’t we. SO much all at once and such a roller coaster ride. The wheel of life, spinning spinning, spinning.

  134. Michael from NYC says:

    Pat C the reason why Obama has to support coal is very simple: Look at the critical electoral states where it comes from — Illinois, West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Ohio. The support isn’t from the owners of the plants but the unions that dig up the stuff. Without that support you can’t win the White House. And if you look at states like Pennsylvania and Ohio they can go either way so every vote counts.

    Honestly that’s the same indirect reason why there is always political support for ethanol even though it wastes food and vital water: The first Presidential race of the season is held in Iowa so no candidate in their right mind in either party will speak out and say that it’s a dumb idea.

    In politics you have to pick your battles. Also from an energy point of view America is consuming too much of everything to turn away from any energy source. In fact sadly many of the electric cars that you see are indirectly using coal which is creating the electricity for the grid.

  135. Prabhata says:

    We just boarded the car of the roller coaster. By the end of 2013, I think the car will be gaining speed and will be flying by the end of 2014.

  136. Pat says:

    This is certainly timely!

    In The Times’s grim, vivid account on March 26, 1911 — the day after the Triangle shirtwaist factory fire — these words appear: “The victims who are now lying at the Morgue waiting for some one to identify them by a tooth or the remains of a burned shoe were mostly girls from 16 to 23 years of age.” There were 146 victims in all, 129 of them women.

  137. Pat C says:

    The New Adventures of the Old Orwellians

    “Well, surely the public is sure to stay quiet while this bill, this awesome bill, passes. A Senate proposal that has become known as the Internet “kill switch” bill was reintroduced this week, with a tweak its backers say eliminates the possibility of an Egypt-style disconnection happening in the United States…the name of the bill has been changed to include the phrase “Internet freedom.”

    It will surely soon turn into a lovely Easter-basket of Freedom, or if you are otherwise inclined perhaps a Passover of Freedom would be more appropriate?

  138. karen says:

    The “kill switch” bill is a natural extension of the ongoing illumi-nazi power grab. Prior to the internet, we could access information and educate ourselves at the library, through The Nation, or Progressive, Jim Hightower, for example.

    The number of subscribers (pre-internet) was not necessarily cause for alarm. The internet took the truth to another dimension. Now, it IS cause for alarm.

    Control the message, control the people.

    Illumi-nazis……hmmmm, this might be closer to the truth?

  139. angellight says:


    “IRS estimates that individuals and corporations currently hold $5 trillion in tax haven countries. Nearly two-thirds of corporations pay no taxes at all, and the great vampire squid, Goldman Sachs, which received $10 billion dollars in taxpayer money during the bailout, negotiated their tax rate down to one percent. The entire tax haven scam costs taxpayers as much as $100 billion per year.

    To help illustrate the massive hole this con game leaves in the budget, consider that President Obama made the recent decision to end the year-round Pell Grant policy in order to save $3.4 billion in 2011 and $4.2 billion in 2012. Another example: The National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) and the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) are braced for more than $6 million in cuts, a shortfall that could easily be made up if the US recovers just .06 percent of the annual taxes owed to it by tax haven criminals.

    Some of the worst corporate offenders are Hewlett-Packard, Verizon, Chevron, Ford, ExxonMobil and Bank of America. The biggest dodger is General Electric (GE), which, during a time of national economic crisis, actually made money on their tax filing in 2010. Though the company generated $10.3 billion in pretax income, it recorded $1.1 billion in tax benefits. Forbes calls this GE’s “uncanny ability to lose lots of money in the US and make lots of money overseas, where tax rates are lower.” Such activity is also known as tax dodging, but publications like Forbes prefer to avoid such shrill language.

    Conservatives frequently cite the fact that America’s corporate tax rate is 35 percent, which is higher than the average of other industrial countries, but that doesn’t take into account these kinds of tax evading practices. In fact, 115 companies on the S&P 500 pay less than 20 percent in taxes, and that doesn’t take into account the 37 companies, such as Citigroup and American International Group (AIG), that receive more in credits than they ultimately pay out (companies that pay less than five percent in taxes include Boeing and Amazon).

    In 2010, if you made between $34,001 and $82,400, your marginal tax rate was 25 percent. That means you paid more in taxes than a company like Carnival Corporation – the entity behind the floating eyesores of Carnival cruises – which, over the last five years, has paid only 1.1 percent of its cumulative $11.3 billion in profits, according to The New York Times. You even paid more if you were in either of the next two lowest income brackets. For singles earning between $0 and $8,375, the marginal tax rate is 10 percent – a positively patriotic sum considering that income won’t keep an individual above the poverty line, and yet would cause any Fortune 500 CEO to experience cardiac arrest.”–_a_grassroots_uprising_against_corporate_tax_deadbeats/

  140. angellight says:

    Karen, Pat C, All: We have to stay Vigilant and since we are finally Awake, I think we will.

  141. Marta says:

    hahahahahaha! Can’t wait for Miami-Dade to do the same and recover all of OUR recording fees for the zillions of houses and condos that were bought and sold here during the “boom”!

    The Market Ticker ® – Commentary on The Capital Markets
    Posted 2011-02-23 08:56
    by Karl Denninger
    in Foreclosuregate
    Massachusetts Fires Shot at MERS

    Oh the game is afoot!

    Essex South Register of Deeds John O’Brien announced today that he will be seeking over $22 million dollars from the Mortgage Electronic Registration System, “MERS” which represents several major banking conglomerates. O’Brien bases the $22M number on the fact that the Salem registry has recorded over 148,663 MERS mortgages since 1998. After a careful review of a number of these mortgages O’Brien said it became very clear to him that MERS had assigned mortgages to other entities at least twice without paying a recording fee. Based on this information the taxpayers have been defrauded out of $22,299,450 in Southern Essex County alone. It is quite possible that in some cases they may have assigned the notes more than twice resulting in even greater loss of revenue. O’Brien called MERS “one of the greediest schemes ever perpetrated on the American people. They have compromised the integrity of the public land recordation system and in doing so, have wreaked havoc on our economy”.

    And that’s just one county.

    There’s a lot of counties in America.

    Here it comes folks….. I smell the destruction of a bogus business model right around the corner…


  142. Pat C says:

    HA! 😀

  143. Marta says:

    Interesting, though I do still support the Wisconsin workers …

    Rachel Maddow says Wisconsin is on track to have a budget surplus this year
    Share this story:

    It has taken hold with conviction: the idea that Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker ginned up a phony budget crisis to justify his bold bid to strip state employees of most bargaining rights and cut their benefits.

    A volley of e-mails, blog posts and inquiries to reporters followed a Madison Capital Times editorial on Feb. 16, 2011, that said no state budget deficit exists for 2010-’11 — or if it does, it’s the fault of Walker and the Republicans in the Legislature.

    Liberal MSNBC talk show host Rachel Maddow joined in Feb. 17, accusing Walker of manipulating the situation for political gain.

    “Despite what you may have heard about Wisconsin’s finances, the state is on track to have a budget surplus this year,” she said. “I am not kidding.”

    She added a kicker that is also making the rounds: Walker and fellow Republicans in the Legislature this year gave away $140 million in business tax breaks — so if there is a deficit projected of $137 million, they created it.

    Maddow and others making the claim all cite the same source for their information — a Jan. 31, 2011 memo prepared by Robert Lang, the director of the nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau.

    It includes this line: “Our analysis indicates a general fund gross balance of $121.4 million and a net balance of $56.4 million.”

    We were curious about claims of a surplus based on the fiscal bureau memo.


  144. Pat says:

    Did you see THIS? ha ha ha ……..
    Jason Linkins HuffPost Reporting

    Scott Walker Gets Punked By Journalist Pretending To Be David Koch
    Over at the Buffalo Beast — the former print alt-weekly turned online newspaper founded by onetime editor Matt Taibbi, typically best known for its annual list of “The 50 Most Loathsome Americans” — there appear to be recordings of a phone call between Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and current editor Ian Murphy.

  145. Prabhata says:

    The trillions of dollars that the corporations have stowed away is legal and the U.S. government knows it. But the corporations have a problem with stashing that money abroad: they can’t bring that money to the U.S. and not pay the taxes. To fix that problem, the corporations have been pushing for a “holiday” to bring that money to the U.S. and skip the taxes. Unless one reads business news, no one knows about it.

    Dodging Repatriation Tax Lets U.S. Companies Bring Home Cash

  146. Pat C says:

    A gonzo reporter from an alt-weekly in Buffalo, New York, just got “Scott Walker to tell all on Tuesday. Posing as David Koch, one of the Tea Party puppeteers and a big Walker campaign contributor, Ian Murphy talked his way onto the phone with the Wisconsin state governor and kept his cool long enough for Walker to divulge the inside details of the Wisconsin protests. Here’s the call in two parts.”

  147. angellight says:

    Reality Check- There is Not Really a Short Fall in Employee Pensions as Some Like to Pretend! –

  148. angellight says:

    Prabhata: I believe Pres. Obama is or has introduced legislation to make it Illegal for companies to stash money overseas. Also, many corporations pay one percent on their earings, so they pay little taxes and some pay no taxes at all. They have been given a pass, all to create jobs, but Where are the Jobs?

  149. angellight says:

    Marta: If you read the above link I posted, it has info on the Surplus, that they did have a surplus and that Wiscosin has one of the healthiest Pension Funds in the nation.

  150. herald778 says:

    Obama Orders End to Defense of Federal Gay Marriage Law

  151. lizzie says:

    So hope Rachel Maddow has on the Buffalo Beast hero who called Dictator Walker tonight….

  152. Prabhata says:

    So all those who said that Obama had to defend in court Don’t Ask Don’t Tell got it wrong. The DOJ can, at its discretion defend or not defend a law established by Congress.

  153. lizzie says:

    Great comments re Walker’s telephone self immolation on:

    Seems only salon and raw story are covering this seismic story…no cnn or fox of course.

  154. angellight says:

    Daily Kos has Youtube up on it and some other written posts. MSNBC did a slight dialog on it, not much. They probably are waiting to confirm it.

  155. angellight says:

    Abraham Lincoln wrote the Playbook for Wisconsin Dems — He jumped through a 2nd Floor window to get away!×466200

  156. Pat C says:

    LIBYA: Warship defects to Malta

    LA Times February 22, 2011 | 7:03 pm

    A Libyan warship arrived in Malta on Tuesday after its crew refused to carry out orders to bomb Benghazi, the satellite network Al Jazeera reported.

    A second Libyan ship has also reportedly been sighted in the area, the network reported.

    A Libyan pilot, speaking from Switzerland, told Al Jazeera on Tuesday that he had flown a planeload of mercenaries into Libya. The pilot said he did not realize what he was doing at the time, according to Al Jazeera, but that the group was chanting, although the members did not speak Arabic.

  157. lizzie says:

    Buffalo Beast’s Walker punkster will be on MSNBC’s Chris O’Donnel’s ‘Last Word’ tonight @ 8pm EST….

  158. Bette says:

    “…..Demonstrations are going on in the US state of Wisconsin: But you would not know it walking past a news stand in the USA. The American news should have this issue (Wisconsin) plastered on the front page 24 hours a day. What is happening in America needs real coverage by the main news. The main news needs to get off the government nipple and report. They would have in the old days of journalism…”

  159. Pat C says:

    More Fallout From Walker-Koch-Callgate


    That plan to close half of Detroit’s schools? It’s really happening

  160. Pat C says:

    The Justice Department under President Barack Obama has quietly dropped its legal representation of more than a dozen Bush-era Pentagon and administration officials – including former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and aide Paul Wolfowitz – in a lawsuit by Al Qaeda operative Jose Padilla, who spent years behind bars without charges in conditions his lawyers compare to torture.

  161. Prabhata says:

    BBC: Yemen protest: Ruling party MPs resign over violence

    Protesters in Sanaa say government supporters fired live rounds at them on Tuesday night
    Seven members of parliament belonging to Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh’s ruling GPC party have resigned.
    They said the move was in protest at violence used to quell demonstrations calling for the president to quit.
    At least one person was killed late on Tuesday in the capital Sanaa as supporters of President Saleh tried to break up a protest near the university.
    Thousands of protesters have again rallied at a square near the university to call for the president to resign.

  162. Pat C says:

    So this is why they are turning down federal money.

    Scott Walker’s Union-Busting Bill Would Bleed $47 Million in Federal Funds

    We already know Scott Walker’s Wisconsin union-busting budget freak-out is a crock — he started 2011 with a surplus which was magically erased once he gifted huge tax breaks to wealthy multi-national corporations. But for all his chatter about belt-tightening, he’s neglecting the fact that should his bill pass, he’ll be forfeiting $46 million in federal funds — money that could be used for fixing highways, streets and other important transit-related projects. The Huffington Post:

    Under an obscure provision of federal labor law, states risk losing federal funds should they eliminate “collective bargaining rights” that existed at the time when federal assistance was first granted.

    The provision, known as “protective arrangements” or “Section 13C arrangements,” is meant as a means of cushioning union (and even some non-union) members who, while working on local projects, are affected by federal grants.

  163. Pat says:

    lizzie..I posted the Walker punked by reporter impersonating a koch brother back at 10: something am from Huffington Post, HEADLINE STORY!
    Pat C posted it from Salon shortly after I did.
    Sometimes I get the feeling that everybody rushes to post something,…..doesn’t read what everyone else has posted & there is little give & take discussion of the news stories…………….

  164. JudiGem says:

    Randi Rhodes said on her show on Green radio (960 Green in SF) that she had posted the entire Koch prank phone call on her site. Today she also talked about the provisions hidden in this budget bill like this: all WI state owned power utilities as well as water will by this legislation be able to be sold to private parties with NO BIDS, NO OVERSIGHT, no nada…..and the Kochs of course are in oil/gas/energy ….it reminds me of what former Sen Bill Frist’s father and brothers who own the big health care company (Columbia HCA?) which back in the 1990s went around and bought up county owned hospitals built with taxpayer money by bribing the county supervisors with, in at least one case, 250 thousand bucks and then they took the hospitals, stripped the assets, closed them and sold them….leaving all these counties with no public hospitals.

    In the 80’s there was a book about Wall Street which was called Barbarians at the Gate. Well….now they are back, with bigger weapons and even more at stake.

  165. starlight says:

    This is a must-read!! A letter from State Senator Tim Carpenter to Governor Walker:

    Please help it go viral!

  166. Marta says:

    What’s happening here in the US is called, Disaster Capitalism. The book was written by Naomi Klein. Take advantage of a disaster and while people are still reeling, start selling off all public infrastructure. This is grand theft of a great magnitude. That’s why they keep writing these bills in the middle of the night and no time to read or see what’s in them. We are all Wisconsin!

  167. Pat C says:

    And there is also this….

    Control over your food: Why Monsanto’s GM seeds are undemocratic

    Large biotech agribusinesses like Monsanto control much of the global seed market with genetically modified (GM) crops. This centralization of GM seeds threatens food safety, food security, biodiversity, and democratic ideals.

    Question: Would you want a small handful of government officials controlling America’s entire food supply, all its seeds and harvests?

    I suspect most would scream, “No way!”

    Yet, while America seems allergic to public servants – with no profit motive in mind – controlling anything these days, a knee-jerk faith in the “free market” has led to overwhelming centralized control of nearly all our food stuffs, from farm to fork.

    The Obama administration’s recent decision to radically expand genetically modified (GM) food – approving unrestricted production of agribusiness biotech company Monsanto’s “Roundup Ready” alfalfa and sugar beets – marks a profound deepening of this centralization of food production in the hands of just a few corporations, with little but the profit motive to guide them.

    Even as United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) officials enable a tighter corporate grip on the food chain, there is compelling evidence of GM foods’ ecological and human health risks, suggesting we should at very least learn more before allowing their spread.

    More at the link…

  168. barbk says:

    Pat C,

    Thanks for the news regarding Libya and Gaddafi’s escape plan that didn’t materialize. I’ve tried to get birth info on Gaddafi, but it is sketchy and there are several years, and dates suggested but no times offered. Being born in the desert doesn’t lend itself to recording this kind of info, however, I’m leaning toward the June 7, 1942, date as one to watch for a couple of reasons.

    On that date Uranus was at 1+ Gemini and Saturn was at 3+ Gemini, which the recent spate of planets into Pisces would be squaring now, including Sun, Mars, Mercury and Chiron, along with Neptune still in Aquarius.

    In addition, on 6/7/42, Jupiter was at 29 Gemini 18 and conjunct Mercury (24+ Gemini rx) and square Neptune, 27 Virgo 05 rx. This would make transiting Uranus, now at 29+ Pisces opposite Gaddafi’s Neptune and square his Jupiter (Mercury), explaining his aborted escape plan as well as his rambling speech yesterday, when the Moon in Libra could have been squaring his Mars in Cancer.

    Also on that date, 6/7/42, the Moon at 12 Noon was at 4+ Aries, so it could be that transiting Jupiter is conjunct his Moon (home) and being squared by transiting Pluto if he was born in the afternoon.

    The December Lunar Eclipse and the winter solstice charts (12/21/10) feature this Uranus location, with the eclipsed Moon at 29 Gemini 20 conjunct the June 6 ’42 Jupiter. But it is the Full Moon on March 19 that I think will confirm (or not) the accuracy of this date as the possible birthdate for Gaddafi, because the Moon will be at 28 Virgo 47, only 1 degree from his (possible) natal Neptune.

    As luck would have it, the moon’s nodes will be squaring it (north in Sag and south in Gemini) and of course the Sun will oppose this 1942 Neptune, which squares the ’42 Jupiter (Mercury). Transiting Uranus will have moved into Aries by then, so if his Moon is in early Aries, and if he’s still alive, he might disappear from the public eye (full moon conjunct natal Neptune).

    Personally, I think Neptune/Pisces is probably quite important in his chart because of the confusion over his birthtime and because he’s crazy. There are so many better ways to express Neptune!

  169. JudiGem says:

    Thomas Franks (What’s the Matter with Kansas?) wrote a book called The Wrecking Crew which describes what and how the Republicans try to destroy government to enrich themselves and leave nothing for the rest of us….

    Playing at a capital near you.

    barbk….I almost lost it when I saw maddog Gaddafy’s birthday…..mine is exactly one year later, and I’ve been saying that my generation is having their eyes pried wide open with the opposition of transiting Uranus now opposing exactly our Natal Neptune….you’ve added a hell of alot more to think about.

  170. JudiGem says:

    Pat C….that Monsanto agreement Obama agreed to makes me mad as hell….how could he DO that? No wonder the liberals (and I am one) have their hair on fire.

  171. Pat C says:

    barbk, that is, as always, such a fine analysis from you once again. If I come across any more major events in his life, I’ll post them here so that you can perhaps confirm his birth time. Thank you for your clear explanations. You help me a lot.


    Jeffery Sachs, Economist, Columbia University, nails the big picture better than anyone else has.


    The standoff continues

  172. Prabhata says:

    I’ve heard from analysts that Gaddafi wanted to rule all of Africa. He has a grandiose view of himself, and the the June 7, 1942 chart, with Jupiter square Neptune, would support the inflated ego. The Moon could be somewhere close to 12:00 am birth in Pisces. In that case, the Moon would be opposite Neptune and very sensitive to reading the mood of others and took advantage of their fears. That’s how he’s ruled Libya. After the suffering the Libyans endured under the Italians, Gaddafi could always remind them how the colonizers would come back and abuse them again.
    Juan Cole:

    In 1930, under Mussolini’s governor of Libya, Rodolfo Graziani, some 80,000 Libyans were removed to concentration camps, where 55% of the inmates perished. In 1933-1940, Italo Balbo championed aerial warfare as the best means to deal with uppity colonial populations. Between 1912 and 1943, half of all Libyans were killed, starved or chased from the country by the Italian colonial regime.

  173. Pat C says:

    Labor group calls for general strike if budget bill is approved


    Madison Area AFL CIO Votes to Prepare For General Strike

  174. Pat C says:

    The battle against unions in the Midwest escalated Wednesday as a second state, Indiana, effectively found itself trapped in a legislative stalemate.

    All but three of the 40 Democratic members of the Indiana House of Representatives have temporarily moved to Illinois to avoid voting on legislation they consider to be anti-union.

    Illinois is also where all 14 of the Democratic senators from Wisconsin sought sanctuary when they fled from Madison last week to block legislation that would have ended collective bargaining rights for public employee unions.

    The Indiana Democrats presented Republicans with a list of 11 bills they wanted dropped. The most high-profile would make Indiana a “right to work” state, meaning that no workplace could require employees to join a union or pay union dues.,0,2378984.story

  175. Bob says:

    The April 2014 transits might apply more to the war in Afghanistan than to a civil war in the US.

    The transits affect the chart for the attack on Afghanistan, our first and most enduring war after 9-11. (Oct 7, 2001, 12:15 PM, EDT Washington, DC, or 8:45 PM, AFT, Kabul, Afghanistan) No matter whether you locate the beginning of the war chart to Washington, DC, or Kabul, you get the opposition of Saturn and the Moon to Pluto on the Asc-Dsc axis with the Sun at 14 Libra and at 14 Cancer in a t-square with Mars at 16 Cap.

  176. Bob says:

    That should read Jupiter at 14 Cancer

  177. Prabhata says:

    CBS: ATF worked against the stated mission of Project Gunrunner

    “Project Gunrunner” deployed new teams of agents to the southwest border. The idea: to stop the flow of weapons from the US to Mexico’s drug cartels. But in practice, sources tell CBS News, ATF’s actions had the opposite result: they allegedly facilitated the delivery of thousands of guns into criminal hands.
    CBS News wanted to ask ATF officials about the case, but they wouldn’t agree to an interview. We were able to speak to six veteran ATF agents and executives involved. They don’t want to be quoted by name for fear of retaliation. These are their allegations.
    In late 2009, ATF was alerted to suspicious buys at seven gun shops in the Phoenix area. Suspicious because the buyers paid cash, sometimes brought in paper bags. And they purchased classic “weapons of choice” used by Mexican drug traffickers – semi-automatic versions of military type rifles and pistols.
    Sources tell CBS News several gun shops wanted to stop the questionable sales, but ATF encouraged them to continue.
    50-caliber weapons are fearsome. For months, ATF agents followed 50-caliber Barrett rifles and other guns believed headed for the Mexican border, but were ordered to let them go. One distraught agent was often overheard on ATF radios begging and pleading to be allowed to intercept transports. The answer: “Negative. Stand down.”
    CBS News has been told at least 11 ATF agents and senior managers voiced fierce opposition to the strategy. “It got ugly…” said one. There was “screaming and yelling” says another. A third warned: “this is crazy, somebody is gonna to get killed.”
    Sure enough, the weapons soon began surfacing at crime scenes in Mexico – dozens of them sources say – including shootouts with government officials.
    One agent argued with a superior asking, “are you prepared to go to the funeral of a federal officer killed with one of these guns?” Another said every time there was a shooting near the border, “we would all hold our breath hoping it wasn’t one of ‘our’ guns.”
    Then, Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was murdered. The serial numbers on the two assault rifles found at the scene matched two rifles ATF watched Jaime Avila buy in Phoenix nearly a year before. Officials won’t answer whether the bullet that killed Terry came from one of those rifles. But the nightmare had come true: “walked” guns turned up at a federal agent’s murder.

    Since the ATF was alerted in late 2009, this is under Obama’s DOJ. As long as Mexicans were the ones who got killed, the ATF didn’t care.

    Alright then.

  178. Lorrie U says:

    Great posts, everyone!! The word is really getting out.

    Heard that there’s a group that wants to have Southern AZ secede from the rest of the State!

  179. Jerry says:

    Hi Nancy,

    Do you have any thoughts on the intensification of pressures on Saudi Arabia and that Uranus ingress in Aries (evening of March 11th) opposite Saudi Arabia’s Sun (0 ‘6 Libra)?

    Beginning March 11th and climaxing at the time of the March 19th Full Moon (conjunct Uranus) could spell trouble for Saudi Arabia and the world economy if we are to take the following report seriously……..

    Potential Saudi Arabia ‘Day of Rage’ On March 11 Could Cause New Oil High

    February 23rd, 2011

    The blaze of revolution seems to be roaring toward Saudi Arabia. Some of the demands citizens are making include resolving high unemployment (which is nearly 11 percent), raising minimum wage, addressing political corruption, abolishing, “all illegal restrictions on women,” and doing away with “unjustified taxes and fees,” Reuters reported on Tuesday.It also noted that a Facebook page was calling for a “Day of Rage” on March 11.

    King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia is attempting to throw some water on the bonfire by announcing that, “a 15 per cent salary rise for public employees to offset inflation, reprieves for imprisoned debtors, and financial aid for students and the unemployed,” according to the Financial Times.

    On Wednesday night civil war broke out in Libya, according to The UK Telegraph and there has been speculation that a civil war in Libya could cause $4 or $5 dollar per gallon gas in the U.S. according to USA Today.

    If a Day of Rage breaks out in Saudi Arabia, that could cause oil to spike to $140 or even $200 dollars per barrel, according to CNBC.

    Chief economist and Gluskin Sheff strategist David Rosenberg commented that, “Pricing in Libya supply disruptions is one thing, but what if this social unrest spreads to Saudi Arabia, which holds 20 percent of the world’s oil? Do the math: we’d be talking about $200 oil.”


  180. Prabhata says:

    Muammar Gaddafi, the Libyan president, has always promoted himself as one of Africa’s great leaders touting a vision of progress and wealth for the entire continent.

    Now, after a week of violence in his country, the African Union has condemned his actions against the pro-democracy movement that demands to oust him from office.

  181. Prabhata says:

    Five People Killed As Protests Shift To North Korea: Government Mobilizes In Preparation For Violent Demonstrations

    Freedom fighter Bernie Bernanke’s has just carved another notch in his liberation bed post. With everyone expecting Saudi Arabia to fall next, or even South Korea, following days of consistently unreported bank runs, it is North Korea which takes tonight’s gray swan award.

    more at link

  182. Prabhata says:

    March 11 could be ominous if the September 23 1932 chart for Saudi Arabia is right.

    Tyler Durden at quotes FT

    Hundreds of people have signed up to a Facebook campaign calling for a “day of rage” across Saudi Arabia on March 11, although it is not clear if any protests will materialise. Analysts said the late date suggested that activists wanted to give the government time to introduce reforms, and not a real desire to take to the streets.

    “We don’t want money,” a female student from Jeddah said on her Twitter feed. “I want to know that I’ll be protected under a written constitution for the rest of my short life.”

  183. angellight says:

    What Gov. Walker Won’t Tell You

    There is a kernel of truth in Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s claim of a “budget shortfall” of $137 million. But Walker, a Republican, failed to tell the state that less than two weeks into his term as governor, he, with his swollen Republican majorities in the Wisconsin Legislature, pushed through $117 million in tax breaks for business allies of the GOP. There is your crisis.

  184. angellight says:

    Starlight, On that! With enough pressure, may be the smug Walker will be “forced” to resign.

  185. Pat C says:

    Mercenaries Stream Toward Tripoli as Qaddafi Digs In

    Thousands of African mercenaries were headed toward the Libyan capital, the stronghold of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, witnesses said

  186. Pat C says:

    On the Line With Libya

  187. Lunagardener says:

    Exclusive – Donald Rumsfeld Extended Interview Pt. 1
    In this unedited, extended interview, Donald Rumsfeld discusses the Bush administration’s face of certainty about Iraq intelligence.

  188. angellight says:

    Very Informative Clip on the demise of Manufacturing Jobs, Outsourcing, Unfair Trade Practices and the selling of American Jobs by American Mult-Nationals who Lobby the U.S. Governement, and What we need to do as a people to reverse that trend and bring back good jobs to the United States.

    Alliance for American Manufacturing’s Scott Paul on MSNBC

  189. Pat C says:

    angellight the link isn’t complete.

  190. Bette says:

    John Birch Society/Koch/Tea Party??

    The John Birch Society is an American radical right-wing political group that supports anti-welfare, anti-socialism, anti-immigration, anti-semitism, anti-collectivism, anti-government, anti-civil rights (“reclaim the civil rights movement”), anti-regulation, and ‘take back your country (from you know who)’, believe liberals are “secret communist traitors, etc., one of the founding fathers was FRED KOCH, the Koch brothers FATHER, can it be assumed that it it now the new TEA PARTY?s The national John Birch Society is today headquartered in Wisconsin, interesting? Google for more astounding relationships between JBS and Tea Party, Palin, Beck, Walker. Talking points of JBS and Palin seem to be the same JBS principles!

    Koch brothers fund Sarah Palin, Joe Wilson (who lost in Alaska), Walker, others. Did Koch’s support McCain/Palin with thoughts of controlling USA? Can we assume the JBS is now the new Tea Party? Has the John Birch Society made a comeback under the sons of the founding father Koch? I remember my parents talking about the JBS and how radical it was, people in arizona dislinked the political group and it dropped out of sight to later resurface.

    I was pleased to see news reports of the Kocher’s connection to politics last evening on fox and cnn, msnbc. But there was no word of Kocher’s under influence of John Birch Society and it’s definition.

  191. Marta says:

    Prabhata, on ATF article and gun sales … maybe that’s the plan …. let the guns go to Mexico to continue to destabilize the country so we can then find an excuse to use our military to “save” them and “protect” us and take over the border. After all, isn’t that the grand plan, to create a Canada/US/Mexico Union? That plan hasn’t gone away, and your article may be pointing to it’s hidden manifestation. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised.

  192. Pat C says:

    Or maybe the use of drugs on society is a good way to take control of it, whether it be ours or any one else’s.

  193. barbk says:

    JudiGem, Pat C, Prabhata,

    Thanks for your feedback, and Prabhata, the Moon in Pisces makes sense in more ways than one. (Ive counted at least 4 different ways to spell his name!)

    Another point to ponder is that in last November and December, just before the Lunar Eclipse and Winter Solstice, transiting Pluto formed a yod to the 6/7/42 sextile between Gemini Saturn and Leo Pluto as it quincunxed both. This could further de-stablize anyone born on that day.

    In September 2011 (in case anyone is still watching Gaddafi), transiting Pluto will station direct at 4 Capricorn 53 (while Uranus will be retrograde at 3 Aries), triggering that yod formed by the ’42 sextile of Saturn to Pluto.

  194. angellight says:

    Bette: Good infor, scary!

  195. Marta says:

    Amusing over at NC:

    Mr. Anderson said that he could not comment on the OCC investigation or actions but then went on to say that no administration would allow, nor would it allow a judge’s ruling, to threaten the legal standing of a MERS member to take a home. He pointed out that MERS has some relationship with 60% of the mortgages in the country worth in the trillions of dollars. In other words, in his opinion, regardless of the law or the findings of the OCC, MERS is too important because of the dollars associated with its operation to be allowed to be found to be acting illegally.

    In short, this man, who from his position as legal counsel for the party under investigation has inside knowledge of the OCC investigation, is confident that the government will do all it can in its power, regardless of the evidence, to assure that MERS and its members are allowed to proceed as they wish because of the potential financial costs.

    Yeah, well, that’s consistent with the record related to MERS. However, that doesn’t seem to be disabusing the judiciary – they ran that argument in NY and the Judge there was having none of it, as has been noted:

    MERS and its partners made the decision to create and operate under a business model that was designed in large part to avoid the requirements of the traditional mortgage recording process. This Court does not accept the argument that because MERS may be involved with 50% of all residential mortgages in the country, that is reason enough for this Court to turn a blind eye to the fact that this process does not comply with the law.

    Raw arrogance by the financial industry is nothing new. We’ve had two serial Treasury Secretaries who have shown amazing amounts of hubris and then of course there was Rubin, who was by many points of view even worse.

    But there’s a problem here at this point: corporations can’t vote.

    Yeah, I know, they buy big megaphones with their campaign donations and such. I’ve gone over that before. But at the end of the day, they don’t vote – only people vote.


  196. angellight says:

    Thanks Pat C: Will try to correct it, great informaion.

  197. Marta says:

    Hah! Look where this dirty deed was signed …. Texas. How’s that for your Canada/US/Mexico deal? Civil emergency? Hmmm. Is that when the cattle riot? Like in Egypt, Libya? Tunisia?

    Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other’s borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.

    Neither the Canadian government nor the Canadian Forces announced the new agreement, which was signed Feb. 14 in Texas.

    The U.S. military’s Northern Command, however, publicized the agreement with a statement outlining how its top officer, Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, head of Canada Command, signed the plan, which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency.


  198. angellight says:

    Pat C/All: You can pull the link off of Scott Paul’s website

    AAM Scott Paul on MSNBC – great info MSM does not tell us.

  199. Ian L says:

    It’s not just a war of corporate interests vs. citizens of nearly every nation, but of corruption and criminals vs. honest people:

    1. Rape to be rewarded by pregnancy and surviving rapist.

    2. Human trafficking not addressed while student costs skyrocket in order to tempt more young people to prostitution in order to pay for their future or face predatory loans that will result in the equivalent of debt bondage. Human trafficking is supported by draconian immigration policies with no severe punishments for companies that abuse immigrant labor.

    3. Mexico has essentially divided into civil war between criminals and law-abiding citizens. The criminal side, however, has a major advantage of American support both from the massive US demand for illegal drugs and slaves (whether for sex or other work), but also government policies that a fail to address either issue effectively.

    4. Breaking up of unions everywhere so that the general public can be brought that much closer to slavery themselves.

    5. Republican paranoia because they know what they are doing is morally wrong, so they fear reprisals on a regular basis. This fear is, so far, premature, but if a real civil war errupts, they are making it clear that they are already preparing for it. Notice the frequent probing questions about “when will this get violent?”

  200. starlight says:

    Bob – Good find on bringing Afghanistan war into the mix in March/April! I have not used that chart before.

    If the Saudi Arabian government falls or gets embroiled in a revolution, it will foment a huge crisis. They are the ones who always make up the difference when other oil countries can’t produce for any reason. They have recently offered to produce more to make up for Libya’s current lack of production. They strive to keep the price of oil fairly stable by managing their own production levels. If their production gets interrupted, oil could spike exponentially, and we could quickly revert back into a deep recession. This is something to watch carefully.

  201. karen says:

    Add to the mix the following

    running under the radar.

    I’m certain everyone on this board is well aware of the bonuses given to the “talent” on wall street. Of course, some CEO “talent” bonuses skew the average. However…..

    It begs the question. How do we value a teacher or a fire fighter or a garbage collector or a snow-plow driver — all of which we could not do without? Well, we don’t value them. We DEvalue them. In contrast, those who destablize and suck up the wealth are elevated in status.

    Certainly there is some sort of pathology at work here. How is it that we (as a people) have this disconnect? Have had for some time. In fact, the history of labor’s challenges to organize and change the mantra has continually received the greatest abuse. It began with the industrialists, and continues unabated.

  202. Prabhata says:

    As I look at Gaddafi’s chart, I think he’s a good example Neptunian influences gone awry. The photo of him in the story below, with a make believe crown, a distortion of reality.

    Gaddafi offers cash rewards to Libyans to betray pro-democracy protesters

    The cash-for-information came as a French anaesthetist working in Benghazi, Libya’s second-largest city, said at least 2,000 people had died so far in the uprising against the regime. In an interview to Le Point magazine, the doctor said that on the third day of fighting, he “ran out of morphine and medications.”
    Col Gaddafi had appeared on television himself earlier this week, threatening to “cleanse Libya house by house.” He also described people who opposed him as “rats” and “mercenaries”.
    But according to the International Federation for Human Rights, which is based in Paris, protesters have succeeded in taking control Sirte, Tobruk, Misrata, Khoms, Tarhounah, Zenten, al-Zawiya and Zouara.
    The Warfalah tribe, one of the country’s largest, has backed the protesters. A statement from tribal elders has denounced “the hideous crimes of Gaddafi and his regime.”
    “We call upon our brave sons and daughters throughout Libya to rebel against this enemy of God and his regime who murdered his own people in cold blood,” the statement says.

  203. Pat C says:

    GM says it earned $4.7 billion in 2010, compared with a loss of $21 billion the year before. Among the beneficiaries are employees — approximately 45000 union workers are to receive bonuses of $4300….,0,4846220.story

  204. Prabhata says:

    Little Unrest, But Growing Frustration In Saudi Arabia

    Although there is little sign of any unrest in Saudi Arabia so far, there are growing political and economic frustrations.
    After being caught by surprise by the popular revolts in the Middle East, few analysts will rule out the possibility of unrest in Saudi Arabia, but they do say it is unlikely.
    NPR correspondent Deborah Amos is in Saudi Arabia and says the reason is simple: “The king is extremely popular, among young people and with reformers, too, unlike [former President Hosni] Mubarak in Egypt, and [former President Zine El Abidine] Ben Ali in Tunisia, who were deeply, deeply hated. They see [the king] as a reformer, and the changes he’s introduced in the last two years have been startling.”
    The reasons behind the unrest that led to successful revolutions in Tunisia and Egypt and protests in Libya, Bahrain and elsewhere, vary from country to country. But there are three fundamental factors that nearly all have in common: economic deprivation, youth unemployment and political frustration.
    Saudi Arabia has all those problems, and more. With its massive oil wealth, the kingdom is one of the world’s richest countries, but the money is not distributed evenly. There are many wealthy Saudis and an estimated 6,000 royal princes, but the average national income is around $20,000 a year and many Saudis live on the poverty line.
    “Inflation has hit Saudis hard,” Amos says. “There have been sharp increases in food prices, and you need two salaries to get by.”

    “No one questions the legitimacy of the regime, and the king is personally popular.” — Thomas Lippman, Council on Foreign Relations

    Legitimacy is not the issue, though it should be.

  205. Prabhata says:

    Tyler Durden, Zerohedge, quotes MSN

    The German Navy has sent three ships of the operations and training association in 2011 in the maritime area between Malta and the Libyan coast.

The Spiegel Online reports akutell. The three ships are the supplier “Berlin” and the frigate ‘Brandenburg and Rheinland-Pfalz. “Overall, the ships will have about 600 soldiers on board.

As Spiegel Online report on the EU takes in an emergency, a military engagement in Libya considered. The news magazine refers back to an unnamed diplomats.

    Merkel, you go girl!

  206. angellight says:

    Republicans Move to End Aid for Foreclosure Programs…

    U.S. House Republicans plan to move forward with bills that would end anti-foreclosure programs put in place by the administration of President Barack Obama, saying they are doing more harm than good.

    These people are not our freinds.

  207. Prabhata says:

    The foreclosure programs that Obama set up have not worked and won’t be missed.

  208. angellight says:

    Oil Group, API, Starts Political Giving, As Obama Admin Proposes To End $46 Billion in Tax Breaks!

    “The American Petroleum Institute, the largest oil and gas industry trade group, will start backing political candidates this year as the U.S. considers repealing $46 billion in subsidies and imposing pollution rules.

    The group, whose members include Exxon Mobil Corp. and Chevron Corp., would make donations separately from industry executives and employees, who gave $27.6 million mostly to Republican candidates for Congress last year, according to the Center for Responsive Politics in Washington. API has paid for advertising on policy issues and to lobby on legislation.

    “This is adding one more tool to our toolkit,” said Martin Durbin, API’s executive vice president for government affairs, in an interview. “At the end of the day, our mission is trying to influence the policy debate.”

    The Obama administration is proposing to end tax breaks for energy companies and to limit greenhouse-gas emissions, actions the API says will cost jobs and cut domestic production as fuel costs rise. ”

  209. angellight says:

    Prabhata: I believe that the foreclosure did not work because held up by banks that want Obama to fail, the same way they sabotaged the stimulus money.

  210. Prabhata says:

    CNBC: US Cannot Confirm Rumors Gaddafi Shot; Oil Tumbles

  211. angellight says:

    Prabhata: Wow! Turning on MSNBC now!

    Love to watch the Dylan Rattigan show at 4:00; he really zeros in on what is really going on with this economy and how to fix it.

  212. Prabhata says:

    February 28 will end a very tumultuous month. I hope to see Gaddafi gone by then.
    But I read at the AJE Feb 24 blog :

    10:57pm From our lead story on Libya tonight:

    Mustafa Abdel Galil, who resigned three days ago from his post as the country’s justice minister, spoke to Al Jazeera at a meeting of tribal leaders and representatives of eastern Libya in the city of Al Baida.
    He warned that Gaddafi has biological and chemical weapons, and will not hesitate to use them.
    ‘We call on the international community and the UN to prevent Gaddafi from going on with his plans in Tripoli,’ he said.
    ‘At the end when he’s really pressured, he can do anything. I think Gaddafi will burn everything left behind him.’

    Mad men who love nobody.

  213. Prabhata says:


    Who do moderate Republicans like best in 2012?

    Surprisingly, Palin performs best among self-described “liberal or moderate” Republicans and those who “seldom” go to church. The poll also finds she has greater appeal to people who didn’t graduate from college and with Republicans who make less than $90,000 a year. She ties with Romney on support from Republicans from the East Coast.
    Meanwhile, Romney is most popular on the West Coast and leads Republicans who are 50 and over and wealthy. He has a significant lead when it comes to college graduates. He ties with Huckabee and bests Palin among GOPers who describe themselves as “tea party supporters.”

  214. Sharon says:

    I cannot get over the amazing courage of the people of the Mideast. I heard an interview on NPR a few hours ago where a businessman in Libya said he thought the U.S. really needed to get involved and help. My heart went out to him & his people. The irony of it. Is Gadafi so different than Sadaam Husein? Yet there is no way we would send in the marines now (to the shores of Trivoli). I am glad Germany has sent ships to the area.

  215. Pat C says:

    It’s the Inequality, Stupid – Eleven Charts That Explain Everything

  216. Prabhata says:

    The irony of it. Is Gadafi so different than Sadaam Husein?

    Hi Sharon,
    I agree with you in that Gaddafi is similar to Hussein, but I don’t believe that we should make the same mistake as we did in Iraq. I think it’s wise for Germany to send the ships, and I would support the U.S. sending ships to enforce a blockade and maybe a no-fly zone to make sure that Gaddafi and his henchmen are trapped and arrested by the people of Libya. Outsiders will always be outsiders, even if they are trying to help.

  217. Gypsi says:

    I agree Prabhata – Libyans should take Gaddafi down, he is theirs. Not sure how much we should do to help – They have more knowledge of where the weapons are, the people on the ground and they are doing pretty well. If they take him down, they gain their self-respect. Lighting a candle to help them out…

  218. Sharon says:

    And in watching CNN just now and listening to a taped interview with a woman who has been trapped in her home for 5 days with her family – afraid to even look out the window because of the mercenaries – and hearing her say how alone the people feel, with no one to help, makes me wish we could do something (not just the U.S.) but it will just cause greater violence. For one thing, the Americans haven’t gotten out yet. They are on a large boat in the harbor waiting on better weather. It was said that the tribes on the other side of Libya are trying to build unity and power, and the U.S. is in touch with people within the Libyan government (including the guy who just resigned) and there is conjecture that somehow Kadaffi will be assassinated. He is very unstable and dangerous.

  219. B.A. says:

    Matt Stoller: The Liquidation of Society versus the Global Labor Revival

    By Matt Stoller, a fellow at the Roosevelt Institute

    Today, the city of Providence, Rhode Island sent out layoff notices to every single teacher in the city. Every single one of them. If you want to understand why this is happening, why wages in the US keep getting cut, this chart from Doug Henwood tells the story.

  220. Prabhata says:

    Kadaffi … is very unstable and dangerous.

    True, but I’m always skeptical that one man can be that powerful. He’s just one man. Those who support him, are the most dangerous. When everything goes back to normal, they mix with the regular population, ready to support another criminal, drugs, terror groups, etc. People don’t change.

  221. Bob says:

    Thanks Nancy,

    I still have hope that Bush and his bunch will be some day be held accountable for what they have sown which has led to the loss of countless lives, the destruction of families, etc. .

    I will not list the relevant points in the charts of all those involved but for starters in Bush’s chart on Thanksgiving Day or the next in 2012 transit Pluto will be conjunct the progressed Mars of 9-11 (in right ascension) with transit Mars to join it about 4 days later. They will be on Bush’s secondary progressed Asc (Q2, Mean Quotidian angles) in Dallas, and square his progressed Neptune with transit Saturn square his progressed Saturn. 9-11 progressed Mars will be on his progressed Asc with 9-11 progressed Mercury on the MC. 17 months later, on April 20, 2014 (includes the Moon in the configuration), the Grand Cross will aspect the following points:

    Bush natal Sun: 13° Cancer 47′
    Bush Asc Dallas: 13° Cancer 07′

    Bush first Inaug NN: 15° Cancer 32′

    Bush War (Attack on Afghanistan) Sun: 14° Libra 28′, Jupiter: 14° Cancer 36′

    Sibly Sun: 13° Cancer 39′, Sibly Saturn: 14° Libra 48′ (the square in right ascension is only 07′ from exact).

    If only Jupiter were not involved I would be happy as a pig in mud. Hoping it will only magnify the the Mars, Uranus, and Pluto effects as far as Bush is concerned, but forget about the Sibly chart (lol).


  222. angellight says:

    Pat C: Great Site, New Deal!

    B.A: Another great site Nakedcapitalism;

    I bookmarked both of them.

  223. angellight says:

    The arrogance of the new budget-cutters – #cnn

  224. Pat C says:

    That’s a must read from angellight, by Krugman!


    Montgomery Ward CEO arrested by Troops in WW2

  225. angellight says:

    GOP Cut Teachers’ Salaries But Don’t Mess With Defense Budget, NASCAR Cars & BIG OIL!

    “The House of Representatives has been cutting like crazy! Down with Planned Parenthood and PBS! We can’t afford to worry about mercury contamination! Safety nets are too expensive! But keep your hands off the Defense Department’s budget to sponsor Nascar racers. “It’s a great public/private partnership,” said Representative Rodney Frelinghuysen, a New Jersey Republican.

    The Defense Department claims racecar sponsorships are an important recruiting tool for the Army. The House agreed – although this might be news to the Navy and Marines, which decided a while back that a Nascar presence wasn’t worth the money.

    “What makes U.S. Army’s motorsports initiatives successful?” Ryan Newman, driver of No. 39 U.S. Army Chevrolet asked his Facebook readers as he urged a show of support for the program. “In a 2009 study among fans nationwide, 37% feel more positive about the Army due to its involvement in motorsports.” Really!

    “Representative Betty McCollum of Minnesota, who sponsored an amendment eliminating the military’s Nascar connection, said it could save taxpayers “tens of millions of dollars.” She got a flood of angry letters and one death threat. Also, her amendment was rejected, 148 to 281. The opponents didn’t bother with much debate. But I digress, Representative Steve Womack of Arkansas retracted his proposal to cut off financing for President Obama’s teleprompter.

    The majority did vote, however, to eliminate money for a park in Nancy Pelosi’s district. The former House speaker has been demonized to the point that it’s safe to do anything to her short of kidnapping the family dog.

    The newly ascendant Republicans have been howling that the deficit is so big, so threatening, that no target for cutting is sacred. “Everything is on the table. We’re broke,” said Boehner. But the table is mainly crowded with stuff the Republicans didn’t like to begin with. Family-planning money and environmental protection, but not OIL TAX BREAKS or NASCAR sponsorships. “Sesame Street” is fair game, but the Daytona 500 is untouchable.

    In Wisconsin, the new Republican governor, Scott Walker, wants to strip state employees of their collective-bargaining rights because: “We’re broke. We’ve been broke in this state for years.” (However, that did not stop him from giving Tax Breaks and Cuts to Business Cronies.)

    The Plan was foiled, however, when “Wisconsin’s Democratic state senators went into hiding to deprive the Republican majority of the quorum they need to pass Walker’s agenda. The Senate majority leader, Scott Fitzgerald – who happens to be the brother of the Assembly speaker, Jeff Fitzgerald – believes the governor is absolutely right about the need for draconian measures to cut spending in this crisis. So he’s been sending state troopers out to look for the missing Democrats. The troopers are under the direction of the new chief of the state patrol, Stephen Fitzgerald. He is the 68-year-old father of Jeff and Scott and was appointed to the $105,678 post this month by Governor Walker.”

    Gail Collins

  226. angellight says:

    Link does not work

  227. Pat C says:

    The Media Isn’t Telling You That Wisconsin Public Workers Pay for 100% of Their Pensions and Health-Care
    Making them “pay more” for their benefits is just a pay-cut in disguise.

    When it comes to improving public understanding of tax policy, nothing has been more troubling than the deeply flawed coverage of the Wisconsin state employees’ fight over collective bargaining.

    More at the link….

  228. Pat C says:

    NJ Paper Finally Covers Charges of Christie ‘Illegalities’, ‘Bullying’ of Chief Public Defender

    A full two days after The BRAD BLOG exclusively broke the story of allegations by Yvonne Smith Segars, the chief of the New Jersey Public Defender’s office, charging Gov. Chris Christie with “bullying tactics” and violations of state law, as well as both the NJ and U.S. Constitutions, in trying to muscle her out of office and inappropriately attempting to take over hiring there, a NJ newspaper has finally covered the story as well. It is the only one to do so, so far, to our knowledge.

    More at the link…

  229. Marta says:

    The brownshirts of the TSA are alive and well and expanding their scope of operations. Next, your house, place of worship, work, school, the street.

  230. Pat C says:

    Is Anyone Watching?

    Two years ago, the Supreme Court looked over a cliff and decided not to jump. The question was whether a core section of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, as renewed by Congress in 2006 for another 25 years, was constitutional. A majority opinion by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. strongly suggested that it wasn’t.

    The section’s provisions “raise serious constitutional questions,” the chief justice said. He suggested that the administrative burdens the law places on the states where black citizens once faced nearly insurmountable obstacles to voting were no longer justified: “Things have changed in the South.” During the April 2009 argument in the case, Northwest Austin Municipal Utility District v. Holder, Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, in particular, appeared exasperated by the failure of Congress to take those changes into account when it renewed the law in the same format as the previous renewal in 1982. An iconic achievement of the civil rights era seemed headed for history’s dustbin, most likely by a vote of 5 to 4, and an anticipatory outcry began to build.

    More at the link…

  231. Pat C says:

    Professors ask Congress for an ethics code for Supreme Court

    A group of more than a hundred law professors from across the country has asked Congress to extend an ethical code of conduct to the Supreme Court – for the first time – and clarify when individual justices should step away from specific legal cases.

    More at the link…

  232. Gypsi says:

    Kadaffi … is very unstable and dangerous.

    True, but I’m always skeptical that one man can be that powerful. He’s just one man. Those who support him, are the most dangerous. When everything goes back to normal, they mix with the regular population, ready to support another criminal, drugs, terror groups, etc. People don’t change.

    Kadaffi is very dangerous, and just one insane monarch can cause a lot of mayhem.

  233. angellight says:

    Madison Wisconsin Lawmakers Approve a Bill to halt sleepovers in Capitol offices, hearing rooms to stop Protestors from Spending the Night!

  234. angellight says:

    I maybe speaking prematurely, but I see the ending of the Republican Party as we know it.

  235. Marta says:

    Matt Stoller: The Egyptian Labor Uprising Against Rubinites

    By Matt Stoller, the former Senior Policy Advisor for Rep. Alan Grayson.

    Via Wikileaks, we learned that the son of the former President of Egypt, Gamal Mubarak, had an interesting conversation in 2009 with Senator Joe Lieberman on the banking crisis. Gamal is a key figure in the forces buffeting Egypt, global forces of labor arbitrage, torture, and financial corruption. Gamal believed that the bailouts of the banks weren’t big enough – “you need to inject even more money into the system than you have”. Gamal, a former investment banker trained at Bank of America, helped craft Egypt’s industrial policy earlier in the decade.

    Our purpose is to improve Egyptians’ living standards. We have a three-pronged plan to achieve this: favoring Egypt’s insertion into the global economy, reducing the state’s role in the economy, and giving the private sector greater freedom.

    Deregulation, globalization, and privatization. This should be a familiar American recipe, commonly associated with former Treasury Secretary and Goldman Sachs chief Bob Rubin. That Rubinite rhetoric has been adopted by the children of strongmen shows the influence of Davos, the global annual conference of power brokers. Gamal, far more polished than his father, understood that the profit and power for his family lay in cooperating with foreign investors to squeeze labor as hard as possible.


  236. Marta says:

    Interesting article about the real reasons for the Egyptian revolution (think neoliberalism), the dangers ahead, and it’s parallels to what’s happening right here in the U.S. where these same neoliberal policies are being ushered in under the guise of deficit reduction.

    It’s the hidden language in the bills (like the giving away of Wisconsin’s energy businesses without any public input (built with TAXPAYER MONEY, OF COURSE) that’s so dangerous. Here we don’t have the IMF doing the dirty work, it our own government and political parties that are busy finding new ways to “privatize” everything in sight.

  237. Pat C says:

    David Koch himself, Koch executives said that that hoax and nearly two weeks of Madison protests have only strengthened the Koch brothers’ determination to continue to use their billions to promote a national agenda that includes gutting the power of unions and deregulating industry.

  238. Prabhata says:

    Minutes ago, Gaddafi made a personal unexpected appearance before thousands of supporters in Green Square. His appearance was exactly at 16:55 UT, 5:55 PM Tripoli. Interestingly, the Moon was at 15Sagittarius39. It would be almost exact the Sun in the June 7, 1942 chart.

  239. Prabhata says:

    Both parties are dying, gasping for breath. Every year, both parties lose numbers to non-affiliated independent voters. It’s a matter of time before a new party appeals to the independents and to the many unregistered Americans.

  240. Prabhata says:

    Re: 10:04 AM post above. I forgot to say that the chart for Gaddafi, assuming 12:00 AM would have the Sun 15Gemini35. Another piece that seems to support his time of birth.

  241. Pat C says:

    The Con Is On

    The key to a good con is misdirection. Convincing a mark to close out his bank account, liquidate all his property, and borrow, steal, or embezzle in hopes of realizing a big score requires getting him to believe in something for nothing. Getting him to look over there—while you fleece him, over here.

    This is not just simply cheating someone. This is getting a person to reach into his own pocket and beg you to take his money. A good confidence artist believes the mark has it coming for being stupid.

    You’ve read a lot about how what’s going on in Wisconsin is not local. It’s about finishing the long national looting begun in 2008. It’s true. The Big Con is on.

    More at the link…

  242. angellight says:

    Western countries support UN move on Iran human rights

    For the first time in more than a decade, the United States is pushing for the appointment of a special UN investigator into human rights abuses in Iran. The move — which comes after a reported spike in Iranian executions, as well as arrests of human rights defenders — apparently already has the support of the European Union, and could be debated as early as Monday. Reuters (2/24)

  243. Prabhata says:

    The US voters have shifted to the right these past 2 years. Though it’s true that Gallup tends to be skewed towards the GOP, it’s findings are consistently skewed, and thus can be compared from year to year. Here is a link with a map of the U.S. It has a lever to see and visually compare 2008, 2009 and 2010, the GOP has gained ground these past 2 years. Conservative and liberal are meaningless names, but I think voters are more anti-federal government, hence the GOP is more attractive to them.

  244. Prabhata says:

    Liberals call on Obama to fulfill campaign promise, walk with Wisconsin union protesters

    On the campaign trail in 2007, Mr. Obama had this to say: “If American workers are being denied their right to organize when I’m in the White House, I will put on a comfortable pair of shoes and I will walk on that picket line with you as President of the United States.”
    CBS News chief White House correspondent Chip Reid asked White House Press Secretary Jay Carney about that promise today, to which Carney responded that the president has already made his position on the matter clear.
    “I think that the president has different means of speaking out on issues and being heard,” he said. “And, clearly, he did. He made his viewpoints known on the situation in Wisconsin, the need for people to come together.”

    I’m reminded of Ron Zeigler.

    “This is the operative statement. The others are inoperative.” — Nixon Press Secretary Ron Zeigler’s classic shuffle during a press briefing

  245. Pat C says:

    Watch out for this one–Hartmann just said it just came through on the wire–Walker is not going to pay NURSING HOMES unless the Dems get back for the vote.

  246. JudiGem says:

    Just discovered this website which is sponsored by the FDR/Eleanor Roosevelt Institute. It is called:

    actually, it is just …but this is just one of the pages. If you look at the right hand menu you will see a menu called Working Papers.

    These are highly instructive….the one I am reading now, written back when Scott Brown won MA Kennedy seat, you will see the seeds of where we are today. But read them all….they are written by pros in political science on the ground….for instance, relating to WI in this earlier paper it says:Brown’s stunning triumph meant that the Republicans now controlled 41 votes – the minimum required to dethrone
    Independent Connecticut Senator Joseph Lieberman as uncrowned king of the U.S. Senate by giving the GOP just
    enough votes to block efforts to shut off debate. Senator Brown was thus was not really “41,” as many took quickly
    to styling him. He was 007, for his triumph handed his party a license to kill by talking bills to death in the upper chamber.2
    Difficulties – The Role of Political Money
    As the Tea Party script crystallizes into conventional wisdom, however, some jarringly inconsistent facts keep surfacing.
    Let us look past Brown’s little noted comment, in the afterglow of election, that he thought Bernanke deserved
    confirmation.7 Or his demand that his seating be accelerated so he could vote against an Obama administration
    nominee to the National Labor Relations Board, whom Republicans considered to be too pro-Labor.8 This could
    be rationalized as a “populist” antipathy to “Big Labor,” though this expression is now wholly a rhetorical construct,
    given that unions now enroll barely 12% of the total workforce (and but 7% of private sector workers).

    The decisive point
    is that the Democrats control the Presidency and both houses of Congress. In the context of an anemic economic
    recovery, the White House’s largely passive response to bankers’ bonuses, tepid proposals for financial reform, and
    determination to reappoint the desperately unpopular Federal Reserve Chair Ben Bernanke to a second term,
    were more than many voters could swallow. The President’s sudden and rather clumsy decision, only days after the
    loss, to bear hug a previously shunned Paul Volcker suggested that the President and his advisors took the point.
    ….But the most disturbing sensation, however, is the awakening sense that the Massachusetts election heralds something
    uncanny that no one understands. It feels as though some primal force is stirring that could radically alter the
    face of American politics via a process of explosive contagion. It is not necessary to invoke, as some have, the specter
    of the political realignment of the 1850s, when the Whig Party disintegrated and the Republican Party emerged
    out of the ashes of the short lived Free Soil and American (“Know Nothing”) parties. Or to agree that talk about
    building a new “Patriot Party” emanating from parts – only parts – of the Tea Party movement presages the eventual
    replacement of the Stars and Stripes Forever and the Star Spangled Banner by Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg. It
    is only necessary to acknowledge that many standard tools of political analysis have not as yet been tried on the
    Massachusetts results.

    (these are only a few paragraphs….this is a stunning archive of political papers….these aren’t crumbs to follow, this is a whole LOAF….)

  247. JudiGem says:

    Pat C…every budget year in CA under the rethugs we had nursing home as risk, home health care, etc….and for MONTHS, not days. This has gone on here for decades. The state issue IOUs…they HAVE to….but as for WI, I don’t know what kind of rules are in place for this.

    It is always the helpless and powerless who get the dirty end of the stick and they rethugs think that is justice. At the end of that prank phone call, Walker says ‘we will get our ‘freedoms’ back….

    Has anyone asked in the national media what the hell THAT meant? THEIR FREEDOMS back at the cost of other people’s right to organize? Freedom to be feudal lords?

  248. barbk says:


    Gaddafi’s appearance when the Moon was at 15+ Sagittarius, which would oppose a Sun at 15+ Gemini in a chart for a birthtime of 6/7/42, early AM in Libya. A chart for this date and time would produce a Moon at 29+ Pisces, making transiting Uranus exactly conjunct it, while squaring the “natal” Jupiter and opposing the natal Neptune. I think you have found a very good clue which could substantiate a birthtime for Gaddafi.

    I’ve compared the Sabian Symbols for the Gemini degrees for the early AM and afternoon on that date and the early AM degree (Gemini 16) seems to resonate best with what we know about this man. Specifically, this line from Rudhyer’s “An Astrological Mandala” : The mind is called upon to perform its work, but what comes first is the action of that mind which is violently moved and which attempts to move other minds by violent means, the PROSELYTIZING MIND.

    I haven’t produced a chart for this time but am pretty sure it would put the natal Uranus at 1+ Gemini very near the ascendant. This would mean that transiting Chiron and the planets Mars, Mercury and Sun (+ Neptune still in Aquarius) in a square to his asc and Uranus and Saturn. Most likely those Piscean planets would be near his midheaven, if this was his birth time and day.

    I feel that early March will bring an end to Gaddafi’s rule, based on this possibile chart, specifically between the 3rd and 6th, as the transiting nodes will square transiting Uranus (conjunct possible natal Moon), and a New Moon in Pisces will be quite close to squaring the Sun in the 6/7/42 chart. Wouldn’t that be lovely?

  249. Prabhata says:

    Thank you for your insight. It gives me hope that there will be an end to the bloodshed soon.

    The mind is called upon to perform its work, but what comes first is the action of that mind which is violently moved and which attempts to move other minds by violent means, the PROSELYTIZING MIND.


  250. lizzie says:

    Yes, JudiGem,

    Their ‘freedoms back’ to tyrannically RULE and thereby, crush, oppress…start wars for profit…global slavery.

  251. Prabhata says:

    I was hoping Gaddafi would be out February 28, when the Moon transits Capricorn opposing his natal Mars in Cancer. I would rather see him on trial for the Abu Slim prison massacre on June 29, 1996 and other crimes, but I think he imagines himself a martyr in the history books, and talks about dying in Libya.

  252. Pat C says:

    Oh my gosh. For some serious insight, may I recommend?


  253. Lunagardener says:

    Oh! Thanks for posting that Pat C Tseka is on of my favorite artists. She is a master of all forms of expression.

  254. barbk says:

    Prabhata, Even better!

    Pat C, Bless you! The 6/5/2012 Venus conjunct Sun is at 15 Gemini 44. Gasp.

  255. Prabhata says:

    AJE Libya blog Feb 26

    11:45pm [Libya local time]
    Gaddafi’s son Saif al-Islam says army holding back and hopes for peaceful settlement “by tomorrow”, according to Reuters.

    I hope any settlement stipulates that Muammar leaves Libya.

  256. Marta says:

    Top 10 most aggressive items hidden in the Wisconsin public employees bill that you may (or may not) have heard of …

  257. Marta says:


    “I mean, people have access to health care in America. After all, you just go to an emergency room.”–President George W. Bush, July 2007

    That’s fixin’ to change. Texas Senate Bill 7 states on page 20:

    …the executive commissioner of the Health and Human Services Commission shall adopt cost-sharing provisions that encourage personal accountability and appropriate utilization of health care services, including a cost-sharing provision applicable to [require] a recipient who chooses to receive a nonemergency [a high-cost] medical service [provided] through a hospital emergency room.

  258. Marta says:

    Jeez. Obama seems obsessed with listening to our conversations. Ban Skype?

  259. Pat C says:

    Whether it is big energy, agro-business, or just big neocons, be aware of this.

    Online astroturfing is more advanced and more automated than we’d imagined.

  260. Sharon says:

    interesting article on some of the (possible) coming affects of Neptune in Pisces.

  261. DPH says:

    Pat C, you beat me to it…. was just going to post the “FOK News Channel” link. Delighted to have Keith weighing in on the news at more length than in his tweets!

  262. Prabhata says:

    From Iran’s media website:

    Iran, Syria navies ink cooperation deal

    Naval authorities of the Islamic Republic of Iran and Syria have signed a bilateral cooperation protocol for joint training programs.

    Iran’s Navy Commander Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari and his Syrian counterpart General Taleb al-Barri signed the cooperation agreement aboard Iran’s supply vessel Khark in Syria’s Lattakia Port, IRNA reports.

    Khark along with another Iranian ship, Alvand, docked at the Syria port following their passage through the Suez Canal, a strategic international shipping route in Egypt, for the first time since the victory of the Islamic Revolution in Iran in 1979.


  263. angellight says:

    Marta: Thanks for posting FDL article on law enforcement asking Capitol not to be shutdown. That is a Big Deal! Very big! and I was wondering if they would be able to infringe on those rights also. This Walker dude, when I look into his eyes, seems like an “automation.” No Soul! I call him a drone.

  264. angellight says:

    Pat C: Is Keith’s blog on Fox News Channel, the Fox News Channel he has been critical all of these years?

  265. angellight says:

    Scott Walker, A Dark, Insidious Past, Behind the Chior Boy Face!

  266. Pat C says:

    angellight, no, absolutely not. I’m sure it is done with a complete sense of irony. Here is a quote from the site.

    “Three-time Murrow-Award Winner Keith Olbermann is the “K” in “Friends Of Keith” and “Friends Of Keith” is the FOK in the not-for-profit FOKNewsChannel.”

  267. angellight says:

    Pat C: Yes, it was done with Irony, which I believe I got the scoop on TPM after I asked you. Thanks for answering.

  268. Pat C says:

    My pleasure anellight.

    From Keith Olberman:

    Wisconsin and “The Union”


    Stan’s boss, a cigarette dangling from his lower lip, grabbed me by the right shoulder. “You pack your stuff and get outta here. Yuh don’t gib no lip to no mannijehs. Yuh fide.” I actually thought about telling him off or fighting him, but given the likelihood that when he lit the cigarette he’d self-immolate from all the booze in his system, and the fact that Stan was peering in behind him, horrified, his expression telling me to be cool, I just brushed his hand off and wordlessly began to pack my desk. “And I knows about dat job yuh think yuh geddin at 88. I’ll be takin care of dat, too.” He stalked out to phone the news director at ‘88’ – the CBS all-news radio station in New York – and kill my chances at a job there, for which they had first called UPI for permission to approach me about.

    Stan said simply “I’m sorry, I couldn’t stop him,” then recounted the story I’ve told here. “Go home. We’ll fix this. Don’t do anything rash.” He was white as a sheet. So was I. My job was gone, my possible next job was gone, my $487 rent was gone, and for all I knew my drunken ex-boss was going to spend his last moments of consciousness calling all my potential new employers and poison my career the way he was poisoning his liver.

    Three hours later the phone rang in the $487 apartment I could no longer pay for and it was our Sports Director, Sam Rosen, who now does the New York Rangers games and was just as great a boss as Stan. “You are a piece of work,” he started, with a laugh. “I’ll see you Thursday.” I mumbled something like ‘huh?’ “You have the next two days off as scheduled. They were going to charge you for today as an off day too but the union stopped that. And they stopped your firing. Turns out you can’t get fired for arguing with Stan. And they said we can’t recriminate against you so you’re still going to cover the World Series next month. But I do have to write a nasty letter about you for your file.”

    As the blood returned to my head Sam started laughing again. “You should have been there. He was still loaded. The shop steward – for the whole building, not just for Audio – he cut him to pieces. And he got so agitated that the Personnel Director sent him home. Not the shop steward, the boss! Sent him home with a warning and a letter in his file too. Apologized to the union guy. Oh it was wonderful, we shoulda sold tickets.”

    Two days later I was back at work as if nothing had happened. I didn’t get fired by a drunken boss because while I was being paid so little that if I could get a free meal at a ballpark on an off-night that meant I could bank the $3.25 I would have otherwise spent on dinner at Burger King and I felt like I had just gamed the entire economy, the Wire Service Guild union was there when I really needed them and their pain-in-the-ass rules and the foremost of them was the boss couldn’t just fire somebody for being a pain-in-the-ass and if he tried to they could get him sent home and get a letter put in his file too.

    And that is why what’s going on in Wisconsin thanks to this nitwit Scott Walker (elected Governor while the usually bright and with-it people there of all political stripes slept), is vital to every American. Wisconsin wasn’t selected by the Koch Brothers and the Rovian Wannabes at random, nor was this year. Wisconsin was the first state to provide collective bargaining rights to public workers – exactly fifty years ago.

    More at the link….

  269. Marta says:

    Thanks angellight … thank goodness it’s saturday! What a week!!!

  270. Marta says:

    Embattled Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker came under fire today after news broke about statements he made in a 20-minute phone call from a Buffalo-area alternative news reporter, Ian Murphy of the Daily Beast, posing as David Koch, a billionaire whose corporate PAC directly supported Walker and who has given millions to groups that have run ads to aid Walker’s rise to the state’s highest office. (Listen to the call here.)

    As the Center for Media and Democracy has reported, the Koch PAC not only spent $43,000 directly on Walker’s race, but Koch personally donated $1 million to the Republican Governors Association which spent $5 million in the state. Besides the Governor, the Koch brothers have other “vested interests” in the state.

    They include Koch Pipeline Company, which operates a pipeline system that crosses Wisconsin. It also owns Flint Hill Resources, which distributes refined fuel through pipelines and terminals in Junction City, Waupun, Madison and Milwaukee. Koch Industries also owns the C. Reiss Coal Company, a power plant company located in Green Bay, Manitowoc, Ashland and Sheboygan.

    The Koch company opened a lobby shop in Wisconsin two days after Walker was elected. Many protesters have suspected that the “budget repair bill” provisions allowing the no-bid sell-off of any state-owned heating, cooling, or power plant, plus new rules on pipeline transport may be of interest to Koch. The company has denied any interest in these assets.
    Pink Slips as Poker Chips Raises Legal Concerns

    At the start of the call, Walker eagerly reports on all he is doing: First, he tells the fake Koch brother about a plan to change Senate rules on pay to reel-in the out-of state Democratic senators who are holding out to protect collective bargaining. The new rule would force the Senators to pick up their paychecks in person. This rule was passed in a partisan vote in the Senate yesterday — a move that went unnoticed by the mainstream press. The fake Koch asks Walker how they might get others in Senate to vote to stop collective bargaining. Walker responds that he’s involved the Justice Department in investigating whether the union is paying the absent Democratic senators to remain out of state, or providing them with food, shelter, etc., saying it would be an ethics violation or potentially a felony. Wisconsin legislators are well aware of these rules and have already stated they are using their own money while they are out of state.


  271. Marta says:

    Remember that song, “War! What is it good for? Absolutely Nothing!”

    …. well, there are some parties, in this age of the privatized military, who don’t believe that. After all, there’s money to be made!

  272. Marta says:

    Shunning. It works, sometimes. Walker asked to leave a restaurant. See ya!

  273. Pat says:

    And closer to the home front…………I just got reassurance…….that “what goes around, comes around.”
    These big businesses are going to fail because their model is not sustainable.IT DOES NOT WORK!
    It isn’t fun or pretty for us, but in the end we will prevail……..
    Tracfone……….has been nagging me for 2 weeks.they call on the land line ( & leave a call back # if you are fast enough & have a pencil close by…they beeb me on the tracfone in my purse in the other room…………..I have 117 minutes that I have PAID FOR……….I will lose them if I don’t cough up some bloo.. uh money TODAY! 2/27/11
    ( yes I know it is only the 26th!)
    The Indian woman I got; reading from that ponderous script, unable to edit or shorten…….
    was compelled to offer me their outrageous
    ( I’m buying 30 min-$9.99 the least amount) SHe is offering me ?? minutes ( I tuned out) for ONLY $49.99. Did you not hear me say I have NO money……………….She got to laughing at my rant ( probably the Indian Government has regulations against running such a profit motivated business model!)
    All this while whil they are drainging me of money they are also taking my work time………..I NEVER CHOOSE TO MAKE BUSINESS CALLS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MORNING IT’S MY PAINTING TIME!
    I got this big picture in my mind…CEO on the gulf course in St. Lucia, supervisor in Lahor, phone worker ? wherever………..ME snowed in Downeast Maine, yeh god we got another 10″ last night!
    & if SS squeezes me further ( which they will) I will have to give up the tracfone completely, but I guess I won’t need it for car emergencies because the cost of fuel will prohibit going anywhere………..
    one by one the businesses will topple like dominos, because nothing is trickling down but S–t
    It won’t be fun but they will be gone………………

  274. Pat C says:

    “…Stateside, protests in the face of recent union-busting and other forms of GOP teabaggery will continue to swell, but this is only a warm-up to the fury to be unleashed in the weeks following the Pisces New Moon.

    One thought to hold: the GOP threat of a government shut-down without a balanced Federal budget is scheduled to come to a vote on the same day as the Pisces New Moon (Mar. 4). As all New Moons mark a time for planting seeds, should the U.S. government face a shut-down, the repercussions could be stunning and long-lasting. If the government is shuttered, that would mean that on March 10, Social Security checks that are regularly mailed to 12-15 million Americans won’t go out. It just so happens that on the following day, March 11, revolutionary Uranus will enter Aries, perhaps an indication that the silent majority of Americans will at long last find their voice.”

  275. Pat says:

    From inside the Wisconsin State Capitol, RAN ally Ryan Harvey reports:

    “Hundreds of cops have just marched into the Wisconsin state capitol building to protest the anti-Union bill, to massive applause. They now join up to 600 people who are inside.”

    Ryan reported on his Facebook page earlier today:

    “Police have just announced to the crowds inside the occupied State Capitol of Wisconsin: ‘We have been ordered by the legislature to kick you all out at 4:00 today. But we know what’s right from wrong. We will not be kicking anyone out, in fact, we will be sleeping here with you!’ Unreal.”

  276. Marta says:

    Free Markets Are for Suckers: Drug Makers Know the Money Is in Monopolies
    By: Jon Walker Saturday February 26, 2011 1:05 pm

    Yesterday, Ezra Klein was talking about the relative profitability of different parts of the health care sector. Looking at the data, what stuck out to me wasn’t just how unbelievably profitable the major drug manufacturers were (with 23 percent net profit margins), but how dramatically more profitable they were than the rest of the health care sector, which have more market competition, like generic drug makers, which have 5.4 percent net profit margins. It is a strong reminder that, from a company’s perspective, competitive free markets are for suckers and the big money is made pursuing ever-stronger government-protected monopolies–like the drug makers have done for patented medication.

    PhRMA has truly turned exploiting their government-sanctioned monopolies into a money-making art form. Not only do they get the government to indirectly fund much of their research and development, but the drug makers have been able use a relatively small part of the profits made from their patents for political bribes donations to make their government-protected monopolies even more radically profitable.


    and BTW, Obama has now conferred the same exalted status (monopoly organizations) on the health insurers through his MANDATE, which is unconstitutional.

  277. Marta says:

    Holy Canoli! Where was I this week? Rahm Emmanuel elected Mayor of Chicago. Jeez. I KNEW it was a bad week, but wow!

  278. Pat C says:

    USDA Approved Monsanto Alfalfa Despite Warnings of New Pathogen Discovered in Genetically Engineered Crops

  279. NEOBuckeye says:

    I see the brothers Koch as merely the manifestation of our economic dependency on oil, coal and other fossil fuels. We have given them all so much power over our lives. Why are we now surprised that they want to crown themselves as emperors in the shadows? This is about as Plutonian as it gets.

    Fossil fuel energy and our extreme dependency on it lies near the root of so many of the issues we now face. The actual root is our individual and collective attitudes towards the Earth, its resources, and each other. When everyone believes that they must stand against everyone else, sooner or later you have men like Charles and David Koch who rise to the top of the pyramid. But how many people did they ruin and destroy to get up there?

    Now at last comes Uranus to once again challenge our ways of thinking. Will we collectively embrace a shift away from dog-eat-dog competition and disaster capitalism, to care and service to humanity and the planet?

  280. Pat C says:

    REPORT: Top 10 Disastrous Policies From The Wisconsin GOP You Haven’t Heard About

  281. Bette says:



  282. starlight says:

    Hi All – I have yet to catch up but I just posted something I wrote mostly yesterday. I am in a conference all weekend so time is limited. But I wanted to start a new thread.

  283. starlight says:

    NEO buckeye –

    I see the brothers Koch as merely the manifestation of our economic dependency on oil, coal and other fossil fuels. We have given them all so much power over our lives. Why are we now surprised that they want to crown themselves as emperors in the shadows? This is about as Plutonian as it gets.

    Completely agree, but every time we try and get off of these fossil fuels, the gas and oil industry, through their Republican stooges, block us. Higher taxes for gas, any substantive energy policy, money for alternative research and development, global warming studies and research – all blocked as much as possible by you-know-who.